The Korean version's second lead didn't faze me, the Chinese version's second lead didn't bother me, but man, this Thai version's second lead is going to tear me apart!
Oh GOD this guy.. Ren drove me crazy, I'm madly in love with him, in the very first episode I felt some cosmic feelings for him, he made me smile, but when the second episode came out I had no chance to stay alive, because looking at him more and more I feel butterflies in my stomach...
I fell in love with him from the trailer alone. That scene when he looked up and the scene where he glanced sideways while drawing. His beauty is divine. That smile is breathtaking.
I wish he was the male lead not the second, so sad. I hope he gets to be the male lead in a drama in the future. He is so freaking handsome and we are not gonna talk about his smile 🥰
I have never seen the previous versions maybe that's why I genuinely don't understand why people call Ren a big red flag. Seeing this version and this beautiful edit, my love for his character has only grown. Gorya being hated upon for lying to Thyme meanwhile all of you forget all that Thyme had done to Gorya before he started liking her. She was close to being sexually abused that day because of Thyme, had Ren not been there and driven those idiots away from the basement. He then stood up for her when she was about to shave her head because of Thyme. While Thyme was standing and staring at her being made fun of during the party, Ren walked up and offered help. He has been there. Always. Since the very beginning he has been there, he spoke to her when no one else would in school. He didn't hate her because she stood up to them, and yes i do get that he didn't have concrete feelings for her back then but that doesn't mean there was nothing there. Mira herself said he had never talked about a girl the way he talked about Gorya. I'm not saying hate Thyme's character because every character has a different story arc and his development is there, but because Thyme got feelings for Gorya in one day and started trusting her immediately you cannot expect Gorya to do the same. She was bullied massively because of him so it will take time for her to start trusting him IT TAKES TIME.
Finally someone spoke what’s in my mind 😭. I know that Thyme Gorya is meant to be. But seeing people discredit Ren’s kindness is pissed me off. If only Ren never protect Gorya, GoryaThyme would never be existed.
YALLLLLL I’ve always loved Ren, but in the latest episode 15 when he was suggesting a future with her on the bridge, I fucken lost it. He’s sooooooo good to her!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I want a Ren!!! I love Ren so much! I’m never crazy over actors, but this character role personality is EVERYTHING!!!!!
Okay so, I read a few comments saying thyme is “so obviously” better for her. That may or may not be true, but y’all can’t argue that whenever this girl was in trouble, REN was the one to always have been there to save her. ALWAYS. Ever since the beginning to the end. Honestly I’d rather choose a man that has always been kind to me and saved me multiple times. Thyme has his strengths, but not my type. Ren is just perfect and calm and beautiful and soooo sacrificing 😭 he’s more reliable. He can definitely come my way . I’m here with open arms!!
For me, out of all the versions of MG, Ren's version is the most perfect portrayal to the role...his portrayal of the character is the most natural and realistic one, not trying too hard to act cold like showing no emotion always, his version is sweeter and more caring too, he's got many expressions, he's got more character dynamics her than the other versions, Darren's portrayal was good too tho I love Ren's character version the most 😍
Doesn't matter which Boys over Flower version I watch I will ALWAYS Fall for the second lead. Hats off to the Thai version for giving so much depth and layer to Ren's character
If he had discovered his love on time, Gorya x Thyme will never happen. That’s the beauty or tragedy of Hana yori Dango. I can see from clips of episode 3 that Mira wanted to tell him something and later he is in the airport with F4. Which means he will go after Mira. By the time he comes back, Bad boy Thyme would have stolen Gorya’s heart.
beautifully tragic, because it’s nobody’s fault. I love the time reference between ren and gorya from ep 2 even more now. how sad he was there to save her each time but couldn’t save the love she had for him.
@@mariamghani9421 nope.. for mira and also in other version..ren is like her little brother even in other version mira appear in all news that she will get marry i dunno in this version what cause ren back to thai .. he slowly fall to the girl but he know his place.. to protect both of his bestfriend
Ren's character is just too cruel. He knows that he will be rejected but the fact that he still confessed, it hurts him and it hurts me sm. he's too kind, he deserves better and the best. He did everything.
Ren was there for her from the beginning. He saved her countless times and showed her kindness when no one else would. I know that Thyme is the main lead but, would it be so bad if Ren and Gorya ended up with each other?? He developed feelings for her, he loves her while Thyme just woke up one day and fell in love with her.
They have so much chemistry but I also love thyme too as his chemistry with gorya is like fire that makes you feel something While ren and gorya is more like a water which is calm and thats soothes you just by watching it but I have to say this is the first I liked the second male more then ML maybe I getting second lead syndrome for the first time 🥺🥺
Yess!! Absolutely SAME!! Jihoo's Second Lead Syndrome was my first intensely pain one, and this looks like it will probably be as well. Why does the better guy not get the girl in ALL of the versions!?? That is why it is so hard for me to watch them. The Korean version, was rather traumatic for me.😪
I had very low expectations of the thai version and especially of the actor playing ren (because it's my favorite character) but i was pleasantly surprised how he nailed the melancholic acting. He was so believable I got so attached as if I haven't watched the previous versions. His subtle smile and body language perfectly executed the essence of the character which means his love at the wrong timing affected me so much. I hate that it did but i also love it 😅 I can say the same for gorya, the actress has chemistry with both thyme and ren that I ended up watching everything, probably even replay it as much as the japanese version.
I was on Ren over all the series. Sad and happy for him in his character . Would love to see him as main role. He did best. His character was best i supposed . Was always supportive and cute 😍
Goshh.. He's soooo charming. Can't take my eyes off him. Sadly I'm not able to watch this drama rn due to xms.. So this beautiful edits are like oxygen to me😍
He really gives a vibe of hanazawa rui in japanese ver,i know the thai ver was more likely adapt from japam ver thats why ren and rui kinda have a same vibe,both was my fav second ml in f4 series💙
omg! why until now i can't get over with the scenes of Ren & Gorya! i really love the characters of Dew&Tu as Ren&Gorya. another season of the series please GMMTV. this time Gorya for Ren since Ren is Gorya's first love🤎💚
Only ren deserves because thyme gorya loves ren she said she wished i could be bad again and she fell in love with gorya even though she saw ren and gorya close, my heart for this wrong ren and gorya❤️
I RECENTLY WATCHED THIS SERIES IT WAS THE FIRST SERIES IVE EVER WATCHED AND I WAS IN LOVE WITH REN IN THE VERY FIRST PLACE WHEN I SAW HIM HE JUST GIVES A WHOLE DIFFERENT VIBE HIS AURA IS VERY DIFFERENT AND HIS LOVE CONFESSION WAS JUST SO PERFECT I CAN'T EXPLAIN I WAS CRYING SO MUCH KNOWING THAT HE'LL NEVER GET THE LOVE BACK HE IS JUST A PURE SOUL I CAN RELATE TO HIS PERSONALITY SO MUCH I FEEL VERY SAD FOR HIM HE DESERVES ALL THE HAPPINESS I LOVE HIM SO SO MUCH
Digan lo que quieran, pero todos sabemos en el fondo que aunque Thyme cambie por Gorya nunca va a ser lo mismo que con Ren, el se portó lindo con ella desde un principio, a pesar de que se fue a Francia al volver sabía que se había enamorado, y bueno.. las expresiones faciales cuando Thyme esta con Gorya son claras señales de celos. #Team_Ren
I think ren’s the one that got a way will be gorya. He’s too inlove with his first love then it will be too late to realize his true feelings for gorya becoz gorya and thyme will be madly in love with each other. 🥺❤️😍
Their chemistry is something written in the books and we all want to happen. Meanwhile, Gorya and Thyme's chemistry is something unfamiliar - one for the books and we did not know worth fighting for.
Okey i don t blame the actress don t get me wrong she did a good job with the main actor but i have a feeling this 2 should have their own romantic series they fit together really well their eye contact is no joke
Dear its a really great edit but i want to ask you a question that is , i have also made an edit not gud as you but i tried but after that much of hard work , the video got blocked from TH-cam so can you tell me how to deal with it . Sorry to bother , but it will be really helpful if you tell me
As much as I love Ren and Gorya in this version- I will forever ship the main two, (Thyme and Gorya) - their edit will come soon
Sameee
even though thyme and gorya are inevitable, this is breaking my heart so much
I love Thyme. I hope the director can make Ren and Mira end up together.
@@frances124 yess 👏 because their reunion was too pure… I’ll probably edit them soon 🙊
sameeeee...
The Korean version's second lead didn't faze me, the Chinese version's second lead didn't bother me, but man, this Thai version's second lead is going to tear me apart!
Same 😔
EXACTLY 🥲
SAME
It did 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Faxxx ,he feels perfect .
Oh GOD this guy.. Ren drove me crazy, I'm madly in love with him, in the very first episode I felt some cosmic feelings for him, he made me smile, but when the second episode came out I had no chance to stay alive, because looking at him more and more I feel butterflies in my stomach...
I fell in love with him from the trailer alone. That scene when he looked up and the scene where he glanced sideways while drawing. His beauty is divine. That smile is breathtaking.
Same tho 😅 He's such a gentleman ❤
The full series isn’t already streaming right? Cause I have been looking for all the episodes and nothing has appears
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I didn't know that txt were into tai series🤣🤣
I wish he was the male lead not the second, so sad. I hope he gets to be the male lead in a drama in the future. He is so freaking handsome and we are not gonna talk about his smile 🥰
He is handsome but I think this role fits him perfectly I mean he plays the role of the potential great boyfriend even if it is the second lead😊
He is playing one of the main role in a new thai drama called Home School keep track of it ,it will be awesome, trailer is already out
I hope they will cast him to another thai drama that he is the lead actor..that would be great
Same here😍😍😍
@@eenaveronica7090 how i wish 🥰🥰🥰
I have never seen the previous versions maybe that's why I genuinely don't understand why people call Ren a big red flag. Seeing this version and this beautiful edit, my love for his character has only grown. Gorya being hated upon for lying to Thyme meanwhile all of you forget all that Thyme had done to Gorya before he started liking her. She was close to being sexually abused that day because of Thyme, had Ren not been there and driven those idiots away from the basement. He then stood up for her when she was about to shave her head because of Thyme. While Thyme was standing and staring at her being made fun of during the party, Ren walked up and offered help. He has been there. Always. Since the very beginning he has been there, he spoke to her when no one else would in school. He didn't hate her because she stood up to them, and yes i do get that he didn't have concrete feelings for her back then but that doesn't mean there was nothing there. Mira herself said he had never talked about a girl the way he talked about Gorya.
I'm not saying hate Thyme's character because every character has a different story arc and his development is there, but because Thyme got feelings for Gorya in one day and started trusting her immediately you cannot expect Gorya to do the same. She was bullied massively because of him so it will take time for her to start trusting him IT TAKES TIME.
Finally someone spoke what’s in my mind 😭. I know that Thyme Gorya is meant to be. But seeing people discredit Ren’s kindness is pissed me off. If only Ren never protect Gorya, GoryaThyme would never be existed.
@@wulanwijaya6482 omg ur so right thyme and gorya wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for Ren
Concordo plenamente!!!! Amo eles mas acho q Ren merecia
@@wulanwijaya6482yeah ren was such a kind soul ❤
Tf there people out here calling Ren red flag!!???? Just how??
It's Ren for me. Sad that he discovered his love for Gorya in the later part.
YALLLLLL I’ve always loved Ren, but in the latest episode 15 when he was suggesting a future with her on the bridge, I fucken lost it. He’s sooooooo good to her!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I want a Ren!!! I love Ren so much! I’m never crazy over actors, but this character role personality is EVERYTHING!!!!!
Okay so, I read a few comments saying thyme is “so obviously” better for her. That may or may not be true, but y’all can’t argue that whenever this girl was in trouble, REN was the one to always have been there to save her. ALWAYS. Ever since the beginning to the end. Honestly I’d rather choose a man that has always been kind to me and saved me multiple times. Thyme has his strengths, but not my type. Ren is just perfect and calm and beautiful and soooo sacrificing 😭 he’s more reliable. He can definitely come my way . I’m here with open arms!!
IM CRYING😭 IM IN LOVE WITH THIS DUDE- AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARENT EVEN GOING TO BE TOGETHER JUST BREAKS MY HEART EVEN MORE
SAME
Me too.💔
Yes😢
NOO FRRRR 🥺🥺🥺🥺
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For me, out of all the versions of MG, Ren's version is the most perfect portrayal to the role...his portrayal of the character is the most natural and realistic one, not trying too hard to act cold like showing no emotion always, his version is sweeter and more caring too, he's got many expressions, he's got more character dynamics her than the other versions, Darren's portrayal was good too tho
I love Ren's character version the most 😍
Ren is a sooo pure heart I love his smile.I love his character soooo much.
The ways i felt Jihoo was perfection for the role.
Ren made me feel that again.
The bridge scene broke me into pieces that could never be healed again😭 Poor Ren❤
Doesn't matter which Boys over Flower version I watch I will ALWAYS Fall for the second lead. Hats off to the Thai version for giving so much depth and layer to Ren's character
And Dew for pulling it off so well like i can't believe this is his 1st role
If he had discovered his love on time, Gorya x Thyme will never happen. That’s the beauty or tragedy of Hana yori Dango. I can see from clips of episode 3 that Mira wanted to tell him something and later he is in the airport with F4. Which means he will go after Mira. By the time he comes back, Bad boy Thyme would have stolen Gorya’s heart.
beautifully tragic, because it’s nobody’s fault. I love the time reference between ren and gorya from ep 2 even more now. how sad he was there to save her each time but couldn’t save the love she had for him.
do ren and mira from the previous versions not end up together? pls tell me they do because I can’t take ren facing two heartbreaks.
@@mariamghani9421 nope.. for mira and also in other version..ren is like her little brother even in other version mira appear in all news that she will get marry i dunno in this version what cause ren back to thai .. he slowly fall to the girl but he know his place.. to protect both of his bestfriend
@@mitgirl03 in the manga, Rui and Shizuka were a couple but she ended up marrying another man.
He never loved makino romantically
Ren's love is too late while Gorya's too early.
Ren's character is just too cruel. He knows that he will be rejected but the fact that he still confessed, it hurts him and it hurts me sm. he's too kind, he deserves better and the best. He did everything.
Ren. Is a perfect husband.
Yes gosh I wish he would be mine but we are from different country and not same person he is 2000 I m 2009
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Ren was there for her from the beginning. He saved her countless times and showed her kindness when no one else would. I know that Thyme is the main lead but, would it be so bad if Ren and Gorya ended up with each other?? He developed feelings for her, he loves her while Thyme just woke up one day and fell in love with her.
They have so much chemistry but I also love thyme too as his chemistry with gorya is like fire that makes you feel something
While ren and gorya is more like a water which is calm and thats soothes you just by watching it but I have to say this is the first I liked the second male
more then ML maybe I getting second lead syndrome for the first time 🥺🥺
same, it’s my first time facing the second lead syndrome and Idk how to process it.
Omg RIGHT! I'm just hoping they change things around for this version 😫
@@mishqahabrahams868 yeah but I highly doubt it 🥺🥺
And once again the way I fell for jihoo from Korean version ... I am falling for ren ^-^
Damn!! That true,me too.
In every series of this I'm falling for second lead male.Can't deny it.
Samee
Yess!! Absolutely SAME!! Jihoo's Second Lead Syndrome was my first intensely pain one, and this looks like it will probably be as well. Why does the better guy not get the girl in ALL of the versions!?? That is why it is so hard for me to watch them. The Korean version, was rather traumatic for me.😪
Yes. Second Male Lead Syndrome for me in every version. Ugh.💔😤😫😭
@@breezymango4113 yes Korean version is more painful, thai version is a little less but still it hurts
When i saw Ren in the first time i knew that he was different from the others 😍
what does this mean,, you didn’t have to come for my heart like that. 😭😭😭 its always the right person, wrong time couples for me. 😭😭😭
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 right person but wrong time indeed 💔💔💔💔💔💔
@@mitgirl03 💔💔💔💔 I want ren to have a happy ending so bad
I had very low expectations of the thai version and especially of the actor playing ren (because it's my favorite character) but i was pleasantly surprised how he nailed the melancholic acting. He was so believable I got so attached as if I haven't watched the previous versions. His subtle smile and body language perfectly executed the essence of the character which means his love at the wrong timing affected me so much. I hate that it did but i also love it 😅
I can say the same for gorya, the actress has chemistry with both thyme and ren that I ended up watching everything, probably even replay it as much as the japanese version.
In every version of boys over flower drama, I fall for second lead ml everytime..aigoo
the one that had her heart first. Gorya's first love,Ren.
I know I'll be getting real 2nd lead syndrome here. I'm so in love with Ren.
I'm madly in love with ren😭❤❤why his so cute🤡 why why
second lead syndrome is next level in F4
Here I am falling for his character in the Thai ver too, I know she won't pick him in the end but I love them both so much😭💗
You have stolen my heart Ren
I don't know what to do without you now 😭
In childhood i used to catch butterflies but now dew & mainly his smile is giving it for free awww love you dew ♥️🥰🌹
I really wish they were a couple, they fit so well together and this song defined them, congratulations it's perfect!
No matter what ever version comes whether korean , chinese , thai , japenese.. there is always gonna be second lead syndrome in all the BOF versions🥲💔
I was on Ren over all the series. Sad and happy for him in his character . Would love to see him as main role. He did best. His character was best i supposed . Was always supportive and cute 😍
@@ronamieshira8132 I know right .. same here
I would like that in one of the versions of Meteor Garden they change the ending, so that the secondary protagonist stays with the girl as a couple.
Idk am i the only one but i really like ren and gorya together more that gorya and thyme TT
Same here 😂
Goshh.. He's soooo charming. Can't take my eyes off him. Sadly I'm not able to watch this drama rn due to xms.. So this beautiful edits are like oxygen to me😍
I want boyfriend like Ren 😘😘.as well as Mira she is so gorgeous 😍
Its like their supposed to be together but in no world are they allowed to
He really gives a vibe of hanazawa rui in japanese ver,i know the thai ver was more likely adapt from japam ver thats why ren and rui kinda have a same vibe,both was my fav second ml in f4 series💙
Ren is soo sweet all members fell In love with him
I love him more than Thyme 😭😭😭😭❤️
🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️🙋♀️🙋♀️👌👌👌👌👌👌❤️❤️❤️❤️
Ren is perfect bf material tho💗💗
@@lyzzaangelaobina4010 exactly 🤌
I didn't watch the drama,, coz the main lead is thyme 🤨
I really liked their chemistry more 😍😍😍
I've started this series for Bright and Win,but I'm falling for Dew..😍😍
Always unsatisfied with what second role lead are left with 😭...I fkng ship Gorya and ren ❤️
..thyme and gorya too ❤️😭
I’d love if they end up being together 🥺🥺🥺
His one smile and my brain starts malfunctioning. Pls I love Ren so much 😭😭
First time getting secound lead syndrome and ive fallen in love
He's got a bit of Wang Yibo's vibe. Cool!
Yes... 😏
I think that the thai second lead is way more better than Korean or Chinese! Especially, his acting, the way he looks at her!! OMG
I REALLY LOVE REN AND GORYA CHEMISTRY THO THEY DIDNT END UP IN F4 HOPEFULLY IN REAL LIFE THEYRE MEANT TO BE PLUS THEY HAVE THE SAME AGE
I can't get over Ren and his accent
This dude is dope
😭I fcuking wanted them to be together
Ren,you are a prince!:)I saw only this and Chinese version,and his character seems the most human from the gang!I like him so much!❤️❤️
how i wish this character was the male lead tbh if i was the girl I'd definitely fall in love with ren's character.
Yes
No way they’re not endgame 😭 honestly I’m glad I know now before I get so invested
This edit + song choice =soothing and equally heartbreaking.
Every version i liked second lead more. But in chinese version and thai version i like both first and second lead
Ren and gorya💕💕💕💕
omg! why until now i can't get over with the scenes of Ren & Gorya! i really love the characters of Dew&Tu as Ren&Gorya. another season of the series please GMMTV. this time Gorya for Ren since Ren is Gorya's first love🤎💚
Every girl needs a guy like Ren 🥺❤
I LOVE REN 😍❤🌹
Really broke my heart💔😔
Ren is Perfect boyfriend for me🤗😘
The only thing that keeps be going it’s knowing that these to are together in real life rn and I hope they will always be together
TRUE BEAUTY WEBTOON READERS:
Don't you think Ren looks like Seojun of the webtoon version...lol..I find it soo similar 😂
And both have sad end
@@safiahassan1731 yeh🙃
Thank so much I love this edit😭😭 can't wait for ep3
RENGORYA 😭
My parents think I'm crazy coz I'm in love with Ren . I love all of f4 . But Ren has my heart ❤. I wish guys like him existed
I hope he would be in another drama not as second lead but first lead
I dont know why ...but ren just got in my heart ....i feel so bad for him
Only ren deserves because thyme gorya loves ren she said she wished i could be bad again and she fell in love with gorya even though she saw ren and gorya close, my heart for this wrong ren and gorya❤️
Renn is the best second lead!!😭❤
I RECENTLY WATCHED THIS SERIES IT WAS THE FIRST SERIES IVE EVER WATCHED AND I WAS IN LOVE WITH REN IN THE VERY FIRST PLACE WHEN I SAW HIM HE JUST GIVES A WHOLE DIFFERENT VIBE HIS AURA IS VERY DIFFERENT AND HIS LOVE CONFESSION WAS JUST SO PERFECT I CAN'T EXPLAIN I WAS CRYING SO MUCH KNOWING THAT HE'LL NEVER GET THE LOVE BACK HE IS JUST A PURE SOUL I CAN RELATE TO HIS PERSONALITY SO MUCH I FEEL VERY SAD FOR HIM HE DESERVES ALL THE HAPPINESS I LOVE HIM SO SO MUCH
Ren is so handsomeee I ship them both
Gorya and Ren []Gorya and Thyme😍😍😍
He's perfect
I Wish REN AND GORYA WOULD BE COUPLE
everytime i watch this video the more i wish for another season of f4 Thailand series where Dew & Tu as Ren & Gorya have them together at the finale🤎💚
I really don't want To see this also ended up just like Boys over flowers. Hope To see them together till end
Digan lo que quieran, pero todos sabemos en el fondo que aunque Thyme cambie por Gorya nunca va a ser lo mismo que con Ren, el se portó lindo con ella desde un principio, a pesar de que se fue a Francia al volver sabía que se había enamorado, y bueno.. las expresiones faciales cuando Thyme esta con Gorya son claras señales de celos.
#Team_Ren
Oh I really like Ren😘😘😘😘😘😘
Ren and Gorya is the best ❤
I think ren’s the one that got a way will be gorya. He’s too inlove with his first love then it will be too late to realize his true feelings for gorya becoz gorya and thyme will be madly in love with each other. 🥺❤️😍
All I know is that I'm gonna be so heartbroken in the upcoming episodes 😭
I love ren and gorya more hi thyme n gorya🥺💔
I love ren very much
I love ren❤
We know we here coz we want them together 😭
in my mind, they are a couple :)
No me dijeron que iba a sufrir tanto con ellos dos 😭😫
Their chemistry is something written in the books and we all want to happen. Meanwhile, Gorya and Thyme's chemistry is something unfamiliar - one for the books and we did not know worth fighting for.
They are pretty good 👍👌 couple
He is boyfriend material fr😭💕🥺🥺
I love ren and gorya relation ship
Okey i don t blame the actress don t get me wrong she did a good job with the main actor but i have a feeling this 2 should have their own romantic series they fit together really well their eye contact is no joke
let me stay with them, this can’t be true 🛌
🥺🥺🥺
Drama Name f4 thailand
Dear its a really great edit but i want to ask you a question that is , i have also made an edit not gud as you but i tried but after that much of hard work , the video got blocked from TH-cam so can you tell me how to deal with it . Sorry to bother , but it will be really helpful if you tell me
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What's the last scene from???