i am the 8th generation baba nyonya, from penang msia, we are teowchew, according to our old man. my late father still were 100% baba, mean my granny they married among baba nyonya family, not wt outsider. we were from china to thailand to indo and came to north which is penang. nothing to do with melaka. some of us included me speak mandarian as well. baba nyonya mean the generation from mixed marriage of china man wt local SEA local women. not necessary hv to be malay women. thailand phuket and indo medan ( where my grandmum from) and bali got baba nyonya as well. btw cantonese never are baba nyonya as they are came to SEA on 20th century. language : in melaka its called baba malay language n contents more malay words, penang called baba hokkien as its more to hokkiens words even its mixed of manay malay words. actually in penang you cant different the local penang hokkien or baba hokkien as they are very similar now. food penang spicy n sour, melaka spicy n sweet. costume : penang coats, melaka chong sam. for baba. baju panjang n transform to nyonya costume in 20th century influence from western costume. for nyonya.
You should pick up your mother tongue - Chinese, it will be more friendly to us Chinese~it is not easy to stick to The Chinese culture ~Adhering to the mother tongue Chinese is the premise of whether an ethnic culture can continue!
@@yanglllchina Sorry, I think you need to read more history, particularly on Hokkien identity. We Southern Chinese call ourselves T'ng Lang, which means people of the Tang. Unlike you, we still preserve our heritage tongue of Hokkien language. I don't know what poor education you are exposed too, but I suggest you learn the origin of Minnan identity, the origin of Minyue people and the Indigenous people of Minnan/Ban Lam and the sinicization of Minnan during 300-600AD. If you think that just because you're Chinese that you think that you can own our culture, think again. We speak different language and we have different culture. I am so sad that you do not have an ethnic identity and indigenous language. I am so sorry that you have no culture at all, but instead have to make do with generic CCP culture. Please do NOT come to South East Asia and speak mandarin. If you are in our land, speak our language! Perhaps you need to study more on your Confucius value about humility and respect.
@@bernardlokman5442 Although I can feel how you feel, Chinese people learning Mandarin is a must, Mandarin is called " Guan Hua" meaning " Official dialect or the dialect that Chinese Emperor can understand". That's why Mandarin has been changing according to location of the capital of the Chinese empire, but which doesn't mean we should abandon our dialect, for example I speak Yunnanese dialect at home. Before the Tang empire's capital was located in the middle heartland of China, that's why the local dialect had become the "Mandarin" which was similar to today's Hakka or Cantonese. So since ancient times, Cultured Chinese men who wanted to work in the government must learn to speak the local dialect of the Chinese emperor, Mandarin or official language to be able to communicate with the emperor. Today since the Chinese capital is located in Beijing, the cultured men or women must learn Mandarin, the Beijing dialect. But which doesn't mean we need to abandon our culture or dialect.
The Peranakan have their own language which is different from Malay language. The older generation might speak a mixture of dialects and their own Peranakan language and the younger generation are more comfortable speaking English at home. Most do not understand Mandarin and many do not follow the Chinese festival and practice
@Wei Qi agreed. They followed Chinese festivals as it was passed down from their parents but they have their own way of doing it. True Peranakan do not speak Mandarin and the TV series being in Mandarin was already wrong as it lost the rich “flavours” of how the Nyonyas and Baba speak in their daily life. Being shown in a Chinese TV series, even the 2008 local version, it really did not do justice to the Peranakan culture.
Mandarin was only introduced in 1900s by pro-kuomintang sympathizers. They build Tiong Hoa Hwe Kwan. Back then people still stick to their own tribe. Hokkiens with Hokkiens, Cantonese with Cantonese. The idea of 'Chinese people' as one Han race was not a thing. People need to study Southern Chinese history more and have respect of our culture. If they don't want to learn and respect our language, that is an older variant of Old Chinese, then they better stay in China!
还是新加坡版本的《小娘惹》比较好看！
歐萱，白微秀，戚玉武，戴陽天。
对！中国翻牌的不够地道，没有那个味道，而且，之前新加坡版的取景是在马来西亚的马六甲
卜卜啊 就像翁美玲，永远是我心中的黄蓉。不仅仅是因为先入为主。这个中国的小娘惹总觉得少了什么元素和情怀……
@@q3compass 对，而且本地语言比如福建话的大姐，nyanya这种的都变他们普通话的大姐和妈妈，就很可惜，妆容也很出戏，滤镜也比较现代化
赞同！比较有东南亚风
我就是峇峇娘惹的半个后代 很庆幸至今还有部分人保留着巴巴娘惹文化 峇峇娘惹逐渐减少 需要年轻一辈的我们把这文化 不断传扬下去
去年参加了公司主办的“生活美学”活动，去了一趟马六甲。身为新加坡人，不得不说马六甲保留了更多的Peranakan Heritage。虽然已经去过马六甲很多次了，但这一趟生活美学之旅让我重新认识了马六甲和土生华人。
当时我们住的Hotel Puri，就是2008年原版小娘惹的主要拍摄地。该酒店保留了浓浓的Peranakan特色，每一个角落、一砖一瓦都是历史的一部分。
除了品尝土生华人美食、到葡萄牙村吃海鲜、买特产，这一次还有了不同的体验。
我们观赏了王潮歌导演“又见系列”的 “又见马六甲”，认识马六甲历史和Peranakan文化。之后再参观“郑和博物馆”，听听有关郑和下西洋的故事。从中了解郑和舰队人员如何在当地与土著结合，落地生根，形成特有土生华人文化。
建议大家在疫情过后到马六甲走走，相信一定会有不同的惊喜。
我是峇峇娘惹家族第5代，但我们家族并没有马来人的血统。峇峇娘惹并不完全是华人和马来人通婚的后代，峇峇娘惹的马来通婚是后期才有的而且是很小的一部分。早期的中国人到马来西亚的确娶了当地的女孩，但她们很多都是道道地地的华人血统，只因峇峇娘惹的祖先是明朝时期，跟随着Hang Li Po公主陪嫁过来的宫女和侍卫，而他们为了要在马来西亚长期久居下去所以入乡随俗的融入了马来人的生活习惯。
由于峇峇娘惹的祖先都是来自宫中，所以不管是穿的用的吃的都非常讲究，样样要求精致。
至于饮食方面会偏向马来料理，主要的原因是因为在马来西亚不容易得到中国的材料，所以运用了当地的材料再加以研究而创造自己独特的娘惹料理，服装，装饰品等等。如果你想真正了解峇峇和娘惹历史，建议你到马六甲，那里是峇峇和娘惹的起源地。
峇峇娘惹的后代随着年月脚步也慢慢的往北马，南马，新加坡和东马砂拉越的Kuching移居。早期在东马只有kuching有峇峇娘惹，这是因为kuching离新加坡比较近。而同样是在东马的沙巴就没有道地的峇峇娘惹，主要的原因是早期的交通非常不方便，而且由Kuching到沙巴路途更是非常遥远。
DNA裡若没有马来人血统在医学上你就不是峇峇娘惹的後代, 就法律上你是非峇峇娘惹族羣的後人.
Sandra Lim 你没交代有关你被称为娘惹家族的後代, 请问你是什么土著的第五代.?
谢谢普及~了解了~
Even as a Singaporean, I find the Nyonya Baba culture and traditions, both unique and interesting.
马航的制服不是娘若装那个叫kebaya。是一种马来传统服装和娘若装是不一样的。😊😊
不是娶马来人哦……是娶了当时的马来亚的土著。土著和马来人是有区别的。宗教上，马来人信奉回教，而土著不是回教徒。 任何与回教徒通婚的人都需要改信回教，甚至连名字也必须改了。但是，娘惹峇峇是随华人姓的，拜的是华人的祖先。
Yi Wen Lim 其实我从小到大都听到的是跟马来人结婚
马耒半岛的原居民在十六致十九世纪初的那段时期是未开化的森林野人称为Orang Asli. 而南下男性华人很少会与这类原始土著成婚, 而是与比较开化的印尼移民女性结婚或其他地區移民(後被同化)的女性结婚, 统称Melayu. 在这样的情况下才被称为 Peranakan.
马来西亚土著（马来语：Bumiputera），在《马来西亚宪法》下指的是马来西亚的马来人，及沙巴和砂拉越的原住民族。Bumiputera一词源自梵文，意指地球之子或是土地之子，这是由于Bumi一词有“土地”和“地球”之意。在马来西亚，中文使用者一般都使用“土著”一词来称呼这些人，不过这并不是文意上所描述的那种森林部落里的土人，而一般人在这时候使用“土著”一词时，指的是法律规定的本地族群，由于马来人占了土著92%以上的人口，所以，土著就是在说马来人。
早期的马来人还没像现在这样 对于宗教信仰都是“强制性地 ” 也没有什么强烈地政治手法,洗脑....你懂我说什么的🤫
我记得早期是不需要皈依回教的
i am the 8th generation baba nyonya, from penang msia, we are teowchew, according to our old man. my late father still were 100% baba, mean my granny they married among baba nyonya family, not wt outsider. we were from china to thailand to indo and came to north which is penang. nothing to do with melaka. some of us included me speak mandarian as well. baba nyonya mean the generation from mixed marriage of china man wt local SEA local women. not necessary hv to be malay women. thailand phuket and indo medan ( where my grandmum from) and bali got baba nyonya as well. btw cantonese never are baba nyonya as they are came to SEA on 20th century.
language : in melaka its called baba malay language n contents more malay words, penang called baba hokkien as its more to hokkiens words even its mixed of manay malay words. actually in penang you cant different the local penang hokkien or baba hokkien as they are very similar now. food penang spicy n sour, melaka spicy n sweet. costume : penang coats, melaka chong sam. for baba. baju panjang n transform to nyonya costume in 20th century influence from western costume. for nyonya.
You should pick up your mother tongue - Chinese, it will be more friendly to us Chinese~it is not easy to stick to The Chinese culture ~Adhering to the mother tongue Chinese is the premise of whether an ethnic culture can continue!
@@yanglllchina No offence but most Baba and Nyonya from those days doesn't read or write in Mandarin 😶
But yea, I get your point too 😬
@@yanglllchina Sorry, I think you need to read more history, particularly on Hokkien identity. We Southern Chinese call ourselves T'ng Lang, which means people of the Tang. Unlike you, we still preserve our heritage tongue of Hokkien language. I don't know what poor education you are exposed too, but I suggest you learn the origin of Minnan identity, the origin of Minyue people and the Indigenous people of Minnan/Ban Lam and the sinicization of Minnan during 300-600AD. If you think that just because you're Chinese that you think that you can own our culture, think again. We speak different language and we have different culture. I am so sad that you do not have an ethnic identity and indigenous language. I am so sorry that you have no culture at all, but instead have to make do with generic CCP culture. Please do NOT come to South East Asia and speak mandarin. If you are in our land, speak our language! Perhaps you need to study more on your Confucius value about humility and respect.
杨茵 你在讲什么废话？ 不知道就不要胡乱批评别人的种族和语言。显得自己没有文化教养。先懂得尊重别人的文化。不是黄皮肤就要讲华语。
@@bernardlokman5442 Although I can feel how you feel, Chinese people learning Mandarin is a must, Mandarin is called " Guan Hua" meaning " Official dialect or the dialect that Chinese Emperor can understand". That's why Mandarin has been changing according to location of the capital of the Chinese empire, but which doesn't mean we should abandon our dialect, for example I speak Yunnanese dialect at home.
Before the Tang empire's capital was located in the middle heartland of China, that's why the local dialect had become the "Mandarin" which was similar to today's Hakka or Cantonese.
So since ancient times, Cultured Chinese men who wanted to work in the government must learn to speak the local dialect of the Chinese emperor, Mandarin or official language to be able to communicate with the emperor. Today since the Chinese capital is located in Beijing, the cultured men or women must learn Mandarin, the Beijing dialect. But which doesn't mean we need to abandon our culture or dialect.
The Peranakan have their own language which is different from Malay language. The older generation might speak a mixture of dialects and their own Peranakan language and the younger generation are more comfortable speaking English at home. Most do not understand Mandarin and many do not follow the Chinese festival and practice
They do celebrate Chinese festivals but the ways they celebrate are different with Chinese. They have their own practices.
@Wei Qi agreed. They followed Chinese festivals as it was passed down from their parents but they have their own way of doing it.
True Peranakan do not speak Mandarin and the TV series being in Mandarin was already wrong as it lost the rich “flavours” of how the Nyonyas and Baba speak in their daily life. Being shown in a Chinese TV series, even the 2008 local version, it really did not do justice to the Peranakan culture.
Mandarin was only introduced in 1900s by pro-kuomintang sympathizers. They build Tiong Hoa Hwe Kwan. Back then people still stick to their own tribe. Hokkiens with Hokkiens, Cantonese with Cantonese. The idea of 'Chinese people' as one Han race was not a thing. People need to study Southern Chinese history more and have respect of our culture. If they don't want to learn and respect our language, that is an older variant of Old Chinese, then they better stay in China!
你说的对，新版真的很没有南洋风味。马来西亚建筑很多也是保留娘惹的特色的。
俊伟真的分析的很好也对新加坡的娘惹文化的深入了解.
用標準的中文講就不是能表達出來那個意思 馬來西亞馬六甲和檳城還有娘惹足跡 新加坡的小娘惹也是在馬來西亞拍的
陳系很帥
外婆是nyonya。。。难得重温
连我这个土生土长的新加坡人都不懂的娘惹历史由来，既然要由一个海外华人来吿知，实在汗颜！😓
不是跟你讲的啦😂 哈哈哈 我有个朋友就是娘惹我也没有真的刨根究底问人家的家族传统
新加坡可能進展太快 馬來西亞還有IU保留一些娘惹文化
Go check out the Peranakan Museum after circuit breaker is finally over. very interesting.
我大概明白娘惹的意思。多数人都认为马来人和华人结婚就变了娘惹之类的。我是来自东马的。我外婆很多人都一直叫她nyonya.我的公公也不例外。不是纯华人但一直保持中国文化。吃的也都是娘惹煮的糕点和食物。我本身也不是什么纯华人。身份证有着华人名可写着的不是华人种族。看到了许多评语，我是赞同的比如人家还是真的把我们当成华人就因为我们拥有中文名。所以西马人都会误解。为了让他们好分配，把我们所有的种族去掉然后放一个比较客观的在身份证。所以有着一般的文化不管人们人不认同，我们还是要好好学会该有留下来的文化。
请问你身份证写你是什么种族？
香菇豆酱焖猪肉
我觉得原版的比较好看，抄的版本就根本一堆逊色
你是用相机还是手机拍摄的啊？
对不起，个人觉得新版的好看。好看过旧版的。
只有马来和新加坡的华人电视剧，没有缅甸华人的，真可惜啊！
你可以写个剧本哈~
俊玮！说得好！
我一直觉得土生华人在新加坡和马来西亚的建国历程中，扮演着非常重要的角色。许多金融财阀，慈善事业甚至政党政治，都和他们脱离不了关系。如果从这方面开展故事，将会是非常波澜壮阔的。个人猜测编剧碍于新加坡的审查尺度，因此就往爱恨情仇方面编，非常可惜。
我很喜歡劇中的餐具
Singapore and Malaysia.
背景音乐太大声了。
藤椅。。。？？
新版的好像在演宫廷剧
追俩频道，都被删视频了，看个剧费劲死。
藤条。。。？？
那时候叫马来亚而非马来西亚
It's baba nyonya not nyonya baba
讲真的如果不介意宗教新马印的马来女子是很好的结婚对象. 她们比较纯普不会一直讲钱很容易就满足. 可是那些白皮肤的马来女子就完全不一样.
这部戏应该讲究娘惹文化，娘惹烹饪，只会专注人性丑陋态度，欺行霸市，真的比不上韩国版大长金， 没有一个男人能够斗过女人的手掌，可惜，
大长今是有一个真实人物和皇室家族的历史故事资料，来作为丰厚的背景；而峇峇娘惹只不过马来西亚民间风俗文化，来作为比较单薄的背景；“国家规模”与“民间规模”没有可比性了；不过，大长今可翻拍、可再创的
作难度就很难很难了，而峇峇娘惹可翻拍、可再创作的难度就很容易了，说不定以后会有一部叫《大峇峇》呢😁
泰国普吉岛大马梹城马六甲新加坡都是英殖民时代峇峇贸易集中地
我觉得都不好看，童话故事，被人欺负，糟蹋，冤枉，委屈求全，老掉牙故事，而且男主角个个懦弱无能，没智慧，全给女人做戏，应该是女人戏，玉珠不应该这样的下场，给那狗父子糟蹋，外婆天兰简直是多余，认命苦，下跪求饶，她也是二太太，难道一点反抗精神也没有，只会觉得无助，天啊，这故事编制太差人意，实在看不下去，也不会觉得好看
08年的故事，你想好看到哪里呢。
又扮仙家介绍我们大马和新加坡 的 娘惹和baba 吖？？ 🤔
土著和马来人都分不清 吖！有没做功课。🙄