Digital SAT Assessment Framework Technicals Manual: satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/assessment-framework-for-digital-sat-suite.pdf (source for a lot of the information in the video!)
Like quadratic type questions? or like those questions were they say: if a is a constant what is a, and you have to like go through formulas backwards in a way?
I think the math module 2 was not necessarily difficult, it was the fact that the questions were time-consuming. I guarantee that I could do every math problem on SAT given some more time. I had to make my best guess on some of them because I just didn't have the time to figure it out.
@@zielonythewolf5069 I agree with you, the same thing happened to me!! The questions were confusing rather tan difficult, therefore they required more time to analyze. I ran out of time at q15 and had to make my best guess on the other ones as well.
From someone who scored 790 and never under 700 in the math portion of the SAT, this SAT's module 2 was the hardest its ever been. I had five text entry questions (so I couldn't even guess) and they were ridiculously difficult to the point where I would need 10 minutes for each problem to maybe even get a shot at getting it right. In the first module, however, I felt personally I got all right. With that in mind, I'll let yall know what math score I got, because if I do get a high score with a bunch of wrongs, it suggests to me that collegeboard would curve the questions to gauge what your true SAT math score would be. Edit I got 1420, which is useless cuz I can't superscore anything. My math was 740 btw.
replying so i can get notified when u let us know ur math score .. i had a bunch of text entry questions too and ran out of time cuz they were just so time consuming and literally just stuff ive never seen before 💔
My son said the second modules were extremely hard. The first modules were way easier. He said there were some reading questions with incredibly long passages and math questions that were just confusing as hell. I get your explanation and understood your original video, but didn’t think he would struggle like he thinks he did. Good to know that he won’t take as much of hit as he otherwise might have because of the easier curve. He’s going back in November. Do you expect the same kind of test? He’s really been busting his a$$ studying.
Again, everyone gets a different test - and everyone feels differently about their performance (even if they do get similar test forms). "Incredibly long passages" seems strange - reading passages are always always always capped at 150 words; math issues are generally just a result of not doing enough practice. For that, we recommend using the Educator Student Bank - 2-min video here: th-cam.com/video/Dd8pTCoqCbc/w-d-xo.html. You can also find some tips in our recent videos. In terms of November, we're expecting a similar trend with the "curve," though it might be a little lessened because most EDers will have taken it this month, while most RDers take it in December. We'll publish a video for the November SAT on the best 100% free methods to study with. I got a 1560 on the DSAT my first time in about a week using the resources I'll provide in the video, and the entire test seemed like a breeze because of it. Dedicated practice is key!
@@colonelcamp I took it and the passages definitely felt much longer as they were filled with scientific terms and definitions that made them much harder to read and analyze
Try substituting scientific terms with variables like A, B, C, D, etc. Then, when you think you've solved for the right variable, just sub the term back in. Math can be a part of English!
One thing I hated was that I finished the first math module with 18 minutes to spare, and then ran out of time on the last question of the second module and had no answer.
I felt lucky in the module 2 math because all the questions except for 2 I knew how to do thanks to these video. As for English… module 2 was definitely tougher, I normally get around 730 for English but probably will end up lower than that
Yeah I felt the same honestly. Thought that the English had some tough ass questions esp the vocab and a couple of the reading passage ones but all of the questions in mod 2 just felt like they took a lot more time than usual. First time I didn't really have enough time to double check everything. Math Mod 2 was def quite tough as well since it had 3-4 questions I never saw before and required a lot of focus to solve. Definitely scared since I really need at least a 1500 but we'll see
Bro that second mod for math had 5-8 questions that I didn’t know how to do and the worst part is that they were text entry so I couldn’t even take a lucky guess.
In practice tests my best scores were: English: 770 Math: 800 Overall: 1500 That being said, the first modules on the October SAT weren't actually that hard, but the harder modules were considerably harder than any of the practice tests on bluebook or course challenges on Khan Academy. Text passages were longer and vocabs in the first part were just words you didn't know and even hard to deduct in context. In Math I know there are 3-5 questions I had to guess because I either didn't know how to do them or I didn't have enough time. I talked to a lot of people both in my testing Hall and online after the SAT and and I barely found anyone who thinks that the difficulty on the Oct SAT was comparable to any other SAT/practice test. So judging by that the "curve" should benefit a lot of people but if it's indeed only a 10-30point increase overall, then it won't really make a difference. That's just our experience here in Germany, perhaps the test were a bit different elsewhere? Although I doubt it ... Anyway, thx for the Video!
Yeah some of the mod 2 questions took me way to long and they were open entry instead of mcq so I couldn’t rlly guess. The reading section wasn’t to bad, but some passages did kill a lot of time.
I believe it was the hardest SAT or Digital Practice SAT I've taken. I cancelled my score because I was almost certain that I didn't do well enough to beat my previous scores
The reading M2 was way harder than august 😭😭i had 5 main claim qs one after the other!i re-read it 3 times and still understood no shit..to the point where I dont even remember what happened during M2💀😭
I was crying after reading SAT module 1. Module 1 was harder than 2 as an international student 😭 It was not me who said that but every international student is saying that only about reading passages, though. Btw i was scoring 1500-1550 in practice tests. Apart, Maths was easy for me, I mean I completed everything no matter what.
That math 2 module was so annoying. It has stuff where you needed to use properties of math but to understand those I need way more time that we have to wrap my mind around them. None of my studying covered like 5-6 questions
Idk the hell was wrong with me in module one of R&W I practiced for hours everyday and would usually get 0-2 incorrect answers in the first module. But man, that first module felt so hard. I even saw multiple questions that came from the question bank that were labeled “hard”. I really hope this isn’t just me
No worries! If it felt harder, then it must have truly been harder - especially for Module 1!! Equating will do its job. Best of luck on your score release!
dude i did the first mod and it was so hard that i didn’t see a diff between the 1st and 2nd so i thought it was the easier one and gave up, kinda guessed on some but i’m defgettinf a 600
I felt the exact same thing and saw those question bank questions too but the shocking thing was that module 1 was never such difficult. Module 2 seemed a bit easier considering it is always that difficult but module 1 was super difficult ngl
idk. math mod 2 i struggled on 3 questions, i typically score 760-800 on math but I also got one wrong on easy module fs. The R&W was interesting, which worries me. I might've gotten easy version but the words for the word problems in module 2 were difficult and I feel like that's indicative of if you get easy or hard module...
The Words in Context aren't *always* indicative since we all have different vocabularies/exposure to said vocabularies. But best of luck! Update us in two weeks :)
the problem with your conclusion #2 is that the college board allows scores to vary between test dates - not maintaining a certain average per every test. yes the overall average is ~1050 but the avg score in March was an 1174 for example
My son thought the October test was easier than the August. Before the August test he did 30 hours practice, 3 paper practice tests, and DSAT practice test #1. He averaged 1480 on the practices but only scored a 1370 (R 680, M690). Since August he completed practice DSAT tests 2-6 and reviewed any wrong answers. He said he felt well prepared for the English on the October test but the math section still had three questions that were like nothing he had seen on all 6 practice tests. On the August test there were 8-10 math questions on Mod 2 he had difficulty with so hoping only 3 will mean a better score.
Tbh I'd definitely say he probably felt the October was easier since he didn't do all the bluebook dsat practice tests before August. Once you do and review all the practice tests its generally not too hard to get 1400+ even on a tougher test
As a student taking the SAT in the Asian zone, I know that the majority of individuals said it is the hardest in history, particularly for the reading part, and so do I, and I heard the news that there is no "curve" this time
Just takes some practice! Try reading collections of older pieces to get acquainted with the intricacies of 18th- and 19th- century literature (or earlier!).
I appreciate your efforts to address my concerns from the last video. I'm still unclear on this point: "If unpretested child questions are 'easier' or 'harder' than expected, the equating process adjust accordingly". Can you clarify where this is stated by College Board? Otherwise, without more information, I feel like this is speculation. It could be true, but the ISCA could also be used to as a barometer to maintain a certain margin of error for whatever algorithm they use to produce future scales. I'm not entirely sold that College Board is adjusting scales to offset a 10-30 point shift in the average on any given test; I think they're more concerned with maintaining bell curve across several tests.
Hi i think i got some seemingnly experimental questions right which i wasted a lot of time on. Do i still get these points or will it be invalidated? Becauze i spent so much time on them i wasnt able to do great on other questions
I have been taking Bluebook SAT tests and I can’t really say I’m improving. went up from 1330 to 1360;, I’m scared . I have to write the DSAT in November
I studied so much for the oct SAT and i was getting around 1390-1400 in practice tests but idk what happened in the exam because I got the easy second module in English and I dont understand where i went wrong. I just feel so sad now.
Is it a bad idea to study 15-30 minutes everyday on the sat and then do a practice test each weekend till August? Or should I just go with December? I took October, and I think I will get a 1400-1450.
If you do recommend December, how should I study each day till then. Like should I do an hour on weekends and such, idk. If you can tell me a broad schedule, I’d rlly appreciate it.
Hey! It’s entirely up to you. Depending on how prepared you feel, I would give November a shot. However, if you have other commitments, then maybe choose December to give yourself more time. 15-30 minutes is a solid amount of time. My advice is to try and spend as long as need to on a certain concept until you get it down. Consistency is key!
The difficulty is dependent on the test form generated for you. On test day, when you submit the code - the screen displays something like "Test Form Generated"...
The math module two was crazy, and I didn't get some of the questions other people did so I'm rrly worried abt that. For reading, I thought it was decent, and the things I usually struggle with like the science and vocab weren't that hard at all. Btw, I always do better in math than reading :((
I was reading the comments and most people are mentioning that MATH module 2 was (significently) harder compared to the practice tests. I felt like math questions on module 2 were all seen before in practice tests and I didn't have almost any problems with none of the questions so I wanted to ask someone if they know: Did we all have the SAME questions or not beacuse a lot of people I talked to after the test said very different stories about the questions? Thanks and we will be back on 18th October (I hope).
Hey, nope. Everyone has different strings of questions. However, a few questions overlapping between test forms + repeat questions are 100% possible. Best of luck on the score release!
I feel different than other people. I thought there was only one math problem that I didn't know how to do. This is different from all the other times I've taken the test and had 3-5 math problems that I didn't know how to do at least quickly. The english was still hard though
Hey prepworks, this is my fourth SAT, my last one I got a 1490. I tried to lock in points for math to get an 800 but thinking back on the test, I realized that I messed up on one math question. While it may not sound like a big deal, what makes it hurt is that I initially put down the right answer, but when I checked over it, I changed my answer at the last minute. Would you think that I can still get an 800 or would I get points off for this question. I think that this is the only question that I messed up on, and it was on the Math Mod 2 middle section
Hey! Depending on the question, you may still get a 800. If it was a rather difficult question, you have a good chance of it not deducting as many points. There are also experimental Qs!
I got a crazy hard triangle problem in the first module, I don't know if it was experimental or not but I just remember everything else being cake and then like question 15 felt literally impossible. It gave really weird data and was like a triangle in a triangle, and then gave one length and a cos of an angle and asked for a tan of another angle like what???? and then it was open-answer so I spent 25 minutes on it and just ended up guessing (from a 750 scorer).
Doesn’t this all mean Nov would probably be the easiest bc no seniors will be taking it, and this means only juniors will take it, and it’s likely that it’s all the juniors first time taking it so they would probably score worse than if a bunch of seniors were taking it for their second time
@@PrepworksEducationhmm maybe december would have no seniors? but at that point a few juniors might be taking it the 2nd time, but i would imagine most juniors would still retake in the spring
They don't make a straight up curve - but they conduct post-test manipulation of scores to ensure that scores are comparable month to month. I explain it all in the video!
I think the test wasn't bad, the only math question was the angle one tha gave me a bit of difficulty but I knew how to do just but I ran out of time. The reading on the writing section on the other hand...
mod2 for math was some fucking malarky how is ts even thought of i havent seen a density question in years and then theyre talking about how long something is WHEN DENSITY IS THE TOPIC AT HAND
It really wasn’t easy it was the opposite of easy😂 i’ve only got 2 weeks to study for it and i’ve thought i would get a 1500 easily but nevermind this was harder than anything I’ve ever seen on the practice tests. To November i have a full month to study i want to opt for mid 1500’s this time with proper preparation.
I think it was easy. I think the reading difficulty could be compared to pra 3 and the math difficulty could be compared to pra 6, there were prob like 3 question types on math module 2 I hadn’t seen the rest were not exactly the same as practice test but similar. I am rather scared i will be scoring in the high 1400s instead of my desired 1500 score. I predict i got like 4 wrong on reading( 1 wrong mod 1, 3 wrong mod 2) and 4 wrong on math mod 2.
Interesting stuff! Many other viewers found the October DSAT to be hard... I think it goes to show that the difficulty of the questions is not dependent on the month!
They cannot experiment like that.These are paid tests. Experimentation should be done offline not on real tests. I think some one should file for an audit. How is this fair also. ?
Hey, this is the same process used for all the past digital SATs. It’s not new news. College Board does their best to ensure that the unpretested child questions emulate the statistical qualities of the parent model. It’s a very rigorous testing process, which in many cases, results in accurate difficulty classifications. It’s great until there is an inaccurate classification. Since no system is perfect, and there are clearly evident flaws within this one, students’ DSAT scores get impacted.
wait am i the only person who felt easier in maths?i didnt study for this sat ,i did 4 practise tests from bluebook and each score was better than the preceding one of maths(english scores were kinda fluctuating but i got better at time management by doing just those 4 practise tests and watching some yt videos),so in jest the real test was the only time when i was confident all my answers were correct(maybe not one but since i dont remember that question it is pretty hard for me to check if it was correct or not).Hence,Both module1 and module2 was wayy easier for me than any practise test modules
@@PrepworksEducation ikr,another friend of mine got 1450 on AUG sat but he wanted >1500 to apply for ivy so he retook the test,but he said it was wayy harder in OCT and he'd be happy to just see 1300
Straight from College Board: satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/assessment-framework-for-digital-sat-suite.pdf PDF page 39,40/227 In addition, College Board measurement experts perform differential item functioning (DIF) analyses on pretested questions. This statistical method, in brief, involves comparing samples of test taker performance to investigate whether certain defined population subgroups (e.g., males and females) seem to perform differently on given test questions. Assuming the premise that two student samples of equivalent achievement should have an equal probability of answering a given question correctly, DIF analysis seeks to uncover cases where the performance of one sample (e.g., a group of students identifying as female) differs from that of another sample (e.g., a group of students identifying as male) to an extent unlikely to have occurred purely by chance. When questions pretested for the digital SAT Suite exhibit high levels of DIF, those questions are either discarded or revised and re-pretested
I would highly suggest analyzing this manual before making a comment like this: satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/assessment-framework-for-digital-sat-suite.pdf
@@PrepworksEducation i would highly suggest on not making videos praying on clicks and views whilst damaging the reputation of this (poorly made channel imo) and inflating the hopes of poor students. It’s truly shameful.
Bro that second mod for math had 5-8 questions that I didn’t know how to do and the worst part is that they were text entry so I couldn’t even take a lucky guess.
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Digital SAT Assessment Framework Technicals Manual: satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/assessment-framework-for-digital-sat-suite.pdf
(source for a lot of the information in the video!)
no SAT, i don’t want to talk about how text 1’s author would shit on text 2’s claim
@@gerpsie8891 😹💔
@@gerpsie8891 WELL SAID👏🏼👏🏼
Real
Oh yeah those questions were messed up
WELL SAID👏🏼👏🏼
Dude I did so many practice tests and so much studying and there was still stuff that I had never seen on the SAT
exactlyyy
Best of luck on the score release!
@@PrepworksEducation thank you so much 🙏, I really hope luck is on my side lol 😂
Solid facts bruh😭
Like quadratic type questions? or like those questions were they say: if a is a constant what is a, and you have to like go through formulas backwards in a way?
I think the math module 2 was not necessarily difficult, it was the fact that the questions were time-consuming. I guarantee that I could do every math problem on SAT given some more time. I had to make my best guess on some of them because I just didn't have the time to figure it out.
Fair point! Best of luck on your score release!
@@zielonythewolf5069 I agree with you, the same thing happened to me!! The questions were confusing rather tan difficult, therefore they required more time to analyze. I ran out of time at q15 and had to make my best guess on the other ones as well.
@@mariangelmar_ same
From someone who scored 790 and never under 700 in the math portion of the SAT, this SAT's module 2 was the hardest its ever been. I had five text entry questions (so I couldn't even guess) and they were ridiculously difficult to the point where I would need 10 minutes for each problem to maybe even get a shot at getting it right. In the first module, however, I felt personally I got all right. With that in mind, I'll let yall know what math score I got, because if I do get a high score with a bunch of wrongs, it suggests to me that collegeboard would curve the questions to gauge what your true SAT math score would be.
Edit I got 1420, which is useless cuz I can't superscore anything. My math was 740 btw.
thank you so much i was so panicked. came out feeling defeated
Best of luck on the score release!
replying so i can get notified when u let us know ur math score .. i had a bunch of text entry questions too and ran out of time cuz they were just so time consuming and literally just stuff ive never seen before 💔
Replying to get updated
let me know gang
the math mod 2 was so hard for me
Many other viewers have expressed that same concern!
@@PrepworksEducation yeah it was not just 1-2 questions that were hard. There were 5-6 that were hard and time consuming.
i relate as well
@@getszi8208 same, so many open answer questions that were extremely unusual and difficult
it was SO hard
My son said the second modules were extremely hard. The first modules were way easier. He said there were some reading questions with incredibly long passages and math questions that were just confusing as hell. I get your explanation and understood your original video, but didn’t think he would struggle like he thinks he did. Good to know that he won’t take as much of hit as he otherwise might have because of the easier curve. He’s going back in November. Do you expect the same kind of test? He’s really been busting his a$$ studying.
Again, everyone gets a different test - and everyone feels differently about their performance (even if they do get similar test forms). "Incredibly long passages" seems strange - reading passages are always always always capped at 150 words; math issues are generally just a result of not doing enough practice. For that, we recommend using the Educator Student Bank - 2-min video here: th-cam.com/video/Dd8pTCoqCbc/w-d-xo.html. You can also find some tips in our recent videos.
In terms of November, we're expecting a similar trend with the "curve," though it might be a little lessened because most EDers will have taken it this month, while most RDers take it in December.
We'll publish a video for the November SAT on the best 100% free methods to study with. I got a 1560 on the DSAT my first time in about a week using the resources I'll provide in the video, and the entire test seemed like a breeze because of it. Dedicated practice is key!
@@PrepworksEducationThanks! I may have misunderstood what he said about the longer passages. He said it was definitely harder.
@@colonelcamp I took it and the passages definitely felt much longer as they were filled with scientific terms and definitions that made them much harder to read and analyze
Try substituting scientific terms with variables like A, B, C, D, etc. Then, when you think you've solved for the right variable, just sub the term back in. Math can be a part of English!
One thing I hated was that I finished the first math module with 18 minutes to spare, and then ran out of time on the last question of the second module and had no answer.
The jump in difficulty can be unnerving sometimes!
I felt lucky in the module 2 math because all the questions except for 2 I knew how to do thanks to these video. As for English… module 2 was definitely tougher, I normally get around 730 for English but probably will end up lower than that
Appreciate the feedback!
Yeah I felt the same honestly. Thought that the English had some tough ass questions esp the vocab and a couple of the reading passage ones but all of the questions in mod 2 just felt like they took a lot more time than usual. First time I didn't really have enough time to double check everything. Math Mod 2 was def quite tough as well since it had 3-4 questions I never saw before and required a lot of focus to solve. Definitely scared since I really need at least a 1500 but we'll see
ong it wasnt just me tweaking out on this test
College Board is a scumbag!
Bro that second mod for math had 5-8 questions that I didn’t know how to do and the worst part is that they were text entry so I couldn’t even take a lucky guess.
Darn! Well, let us know how it goes in two weeks :)
In practice tests my best scores were:
English: 770
Math: 800
Overall: 1500
That being said, the first modules on the October SAT weren't actually that hard, but the harder modules were considerably harder than any of the practice tests on bluebook or course challenges on Khan Academy.
Text passages were longer and vocabs in the first part were just words you didn't know and even hard to deduct in context.
In Math I know there are 3-5 questions I had to guess because I either didn't know how to do them or I didn't have enough time.
I talked to a lot of people both in my testing Hall and online after the SAT and and I barely found anyone who thinks that the difficulty on the Oct SAT was comparable to any other SAT/practice test. So judging by that the "curve" should benefit a lot of people but if it's indeed only a 10-30point increase overall, then it won't really make a difference.
That's just our experience here in Germany, perhaps the test were a bit different elsewhere? Although I doubt it ...
Anyway, thx for the Video!
@@IlianAigner one thing though. There is no curve for this SAT. They standardized this one as an experiment
Fake news
Yeah some of the mod 2 questions took me way to long and they were open entry instead of mcq so I couldn’t rlly guess. The reading section wasn’t to bad, but some passages did kill a lot of time.
Module 2 math seemed to be a point of emphasis by many students! Best of luck on the score release!
I believe it was the hardest SAT or Digital Practice SAT I've taken. I cancelled my score because I was almost certain that I didn't do well enough to beat my previous scores
Many viewers have mentioned their concerns over the difficulty as well! Keep on grinding!
The reading M2 was way harder than august 😭😭i had 5 main claim qs one after the other!i re-read it 3 times and still understood no shit..to the point where I dont even remember what happened during M2💀😭
Everyone got different questions = different difficulty! Harder questions = less points lost for each missed question! 🫡
I was crying after reading SAT module 1. Module 1 was harder than 2 as an international student 😭
It was not me who said that but every international student is saying that only about reading passages, though.
Btw i was scoring 1500-1550 in practice tests.
Apart, Maths was easy for me, I mean I completed everything no matter what.
Wow, I appreciate your insights! The equating process will certainly be interesting. Best of luck!
i totally second you as an international student giving sat from pakistan. Felt the exact same thing
The 2nd math module was super tough, especially questions 10-14
Appreciate the insights!!
That math 2 module was so annoying. It has stuff where you needed to use properties of math but to understand those I need way more time that we have to wrap my mind around them. None of my studying covered like 5-6 questions
Best of luck on the score release!
Really hope the ones I get wrong are the experimental ones🙏🏻
Best of luck on the score release! 🤞🤞🤞
On the 2nd module for math there were these 5 questions with paragraphs 😭
Lengthy reading passages are indeed annoying!
Idk the hell was wrong with me in module one of R&W I practiced for hours everyday and would usually get 0-2 incorrect answers in the first module.
But man, that first module felt so hard. I even saw multiple questions that came from the question bank that were labeled “hard”.
I really hope this isn’t just me
No worries! If it felt harder, then it must have truly been harder - especially for Module 1!! Equating will do its job. Best of luck on your score release!
@@PrepworksEducation thanks man I hope you’re right
I’ve poured countless hours into this stupid exam and I don’t want it to be for nothing
College Board is a scumbag fr
dude i did the first mod and it was so hard that i didn’t see a diff between the 1st and 2nd so i thought it was the easier one and gave up, kinda guessed on some but i’m defgettinf a 600
I felt the exact same thing and saw those question bank questions too but the shocking thing was that module 1 was never such difficult. Module 2 seemed a bit easier considering it is always that difficult but module 1 was super difficult ngl
idk. math mod 2 i struggled on 3 questions, i typically score 760-800 on math but I also got one wrong on easy module fs. The R&W was interesting, which worries me. I might've gotten easy version but the words for the word problems in module 2 were difficult and I feel like that's indicative of if you get easy or hard module...
The Words in Context aren't *always* indicative since we all have different vocabularies/exposure to said vocabularies. But best of luck! Update us in two weeks :)
Same I struggled with 3 so I just guessed tbh
the problem with your conclusion #2 is that the college board allows scores to vary between test dates - not maintaining a certain average per every test. yes the overall average is ~1050 but the avg score in March was an 1174 for example
That is false
math mod 2 screwed me over.. 😭
Sorry to hear that... best of luck & let us know how you do!
My son thought the October test was easier than the August. Before the August test he did 30 hours practice, 3 paper practice tests, and DSAT practice test #1. He averaged 1480 on the practices but only scored a 1370 (R 680, M690). Since August he completed practice DSAT tests 2-6 and reviewed any wrong answers. He said he felt well prepared for the English on the October test but the math section still had three questions that were like nothing he had seen on all 6 practice tests. On the August test there were 8-10 math questions on Mod 2 he had difficulty with so hoping only 3 will mean a better score.
We will have to wait and see how the equating plays out! Eventually hard work and consistency will pay off. Best of luck!!
Tbh I'd definitely say he probably felt the October was easier since he didn't do all the bluebook dsat practice tests before August. Once you do and review all the practice tests its generally not too hard to get 1400+ even on a tougher test
As a student taking the SAT in the Asian zone, I know that the majority of individuals said it is the hardest in history, particularly for the reading part, and so do I, and I heard the news that there is no "curve" this time
The information in the video about the scoring processes is not just for October. It was released by College Board in 2022-ish.
@@PrepworksEducation thanks for letting me know, will the vocab question be an experimental question?
Changed a math question last minute to the wrong answer. Cannot stop thinking about it😭😭
Stop thinking about it! It could've been an experimental question :)
Same with me but in English vocab question.. It is what it is bro we tried our best :(
@@PrepworksEducation it for sure wasn’t
@@Youtrippin431💀💀💀
When i sae that one English questions start with- this passage was taken from a essay of T.S Elliott, I knew I was screwed
Just takes some practice! Try reading collections of older pieces to get acquainted with the intricacies of 18th- and 19th- century literature (or earlier!).
@@PrepworksEducation most of the books I read are from that time; But T.S Elliott still scares me, especially while being low on time
I appreciate your efforts to address my concerns from the last video. I'm still unclear on this point:
"If unpretested child questions are 'easier' or 'harder' than expected, the equating process adjust accordingly".
Can you clarify where this is stated by College Board? Otherwise, without more information, I feel like this is speculation. It could be true, but the ISCA could also be used to as a barometer to maintain a certain margin of error for whatever algorithm they use to produce future scales. I'm not entirely sold that College Board is adjusting scales to offset a 10-30 point shift in the average on any given test; I think they're more concerned with maintaining bell curve across several tests.
When the line is not Curved but Equated, Hyperbolic and Parabolic
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Hi i think i got some seemingnly experimental questions right which i wasted a lot of time on. Do i still get these points or will it be invalidated? Becauze i spent so much time on them i wasnt able to do great on other questions
Hey, unfortunately experimental questions do not count towards your score.
Maths was good overall reading and writting i need to do some more work 😂ill give it again on december for r&w😅
Best of luck on the score release!
Would the curve be influenced more by my national students' performance, or would it not matter at all?
Nope! Pretty much everything is used interchangeably between US and international students in terms of testing/equating.
I have been taking Bluebook SAT tests and I can’t really say I’m improving. went up from 1330 to 1360;, I’m scared . I have to write the DSAT in November
Best of luck! Anything can happen on test day.
I thought i did great so maybe this will help curve my scores a bit. maybe i got an easier form?
I studied so much for the oct SAT and i was getting around 1390-1400 in practice tests but idk what happened in the exam because I got the easy second module in English and I dont understand where i went wrong. I just feel so sad now.
You don’t know that for sure! Overall difficulty of questions could have just been easier.
Im on the same boat with you..
Does this all apply to the PSAT as well?
Unfortunately, it probably doesn't because the PSAT is exclusively offered in October for most students.
@@PrepworksEducation too bad, but I appreciate you being such a forthright and reliable source of information
Is it a bad idea to study 15-30 minutes everyday on the sat and then do a practice test each weekend till August? Or should I just go with December? I took October, and I think I will get a 1400-1450.
If you do recommend December, how should I study each day till then. Like should I do an hour on weekends and such, idk. If you can tell me a broad schedule, I’d rlly appreciate it.
Hey! It’s entirely up to you. Depending on how prepared you feel, I would give November a shot. However, if you have other commitments, then maybe choose December to give yourself more time.
15-30 minutes is a solid amount of time. My advice is to try and spend as long as need to on a certain concept until you get it down. Consistency is key!
Hi. If English felt harder than for October SAT compared to August, can be expect the November SAT to be more easy for English?
The difficulty of questions is not dependent on the month!
I've taken 6 real SATs (2 paper, 4 DSAT) and 6 of the bluebook SATs and this one was by far the hardest 🥲
The difficulty is dependent on the test form generated for you. On test day, when you submit the code - the screen displays something like "Test Form Generated"...
thank you for a little bit of more hope
Best of luck on the score release!
The math module two was crazy, and I didn't get some of the questions other people did so I'm rrly worried abt that. For reading, I thought it was decent, and the things I usually struggle with like the science and vocab weren't that hard at all. Btw, I always do better in math than reading :((
Best of luck on the score release!
I was reading the comments and most people are mentioning that MATH module 2 was (significently) harder compared to the practice tests.
I felt like math questions on module 2 were all seen before in practice tests and I didn't have almost any problems with none of the questions so I wanted to ask someone if they know: Did we all have the SAME questions or not beacuse a lot of people I talked to after the test said very different stories about the questions?
Thanks and we will be back on 18th October (I hope).
Hey, nope. Everyone has different strings of questions. However, a few questions overlapping between test forms + repeat questions are 100% possible. Best of luck on the score release!
I feel different than other people. I thought there was only one math problem that I didn't know how to do. This is different from all the other times I've taken the test and had 3-5 math problems that I didn't know how to do at least quickly. The english was still hard though
That is the luck of the draw!
Both english modules were way harder than the practice sets for me
Thanks for the insights!
On BOTH math mods I had 5 text entry questions, I’m so cooked😭
Hey prepworks, this is my fourth SAT, my last one I got a 1490. I tried to lock in points for math to get an 800 but thinking back on the test, I realized that I messed up on one math question. While it may not sound like a big deal, what makes it hurt is that I initially put down the right answer, but when I checked over it, I changed my answer at the last minute. Would you think that I can still get an 800 or would I get points off for this question. I think that this is the only question that I messed up on, and it was on the Math Mod 2 middle section
How much did you score in your first two tests?
Hey! Depending on the question, you may still get a 800. If it was a rather difficult question, you have a good chance of it not deducting as many points. There are also experimental Qs!
is 800 on math possible if you get 1 question wrong?
Yep!
I got a crazy hard triangle problem in the first module, I don't know if it was experimental or not but I just remember everything else being cake and then like question 15 felt literally impossible. It gave really weird data and was like a triangle in a triangle, and then gave one length and a cos of an angle and asked for a tan of another angle like what???? and then it was open-answer so I spent 25 minutes on it and just ended up guessing (from a 750 scorer).
Module 1 is meant to be pretty straightforward. A complicated problem like that is most definitely experimental!
Doesn’t this all mean Nov would probably be the easiest bc no seniors will be taking it, and this means only juniors will take it, and it’s likely that it’s all the juniors first time taking it so they would probably score worse than if a bunch of seniors were taking it for their second time
There may be seniors who take it if they are applying to college regular decision.
@@PrepworksEducationhmm maybe december would have no seniors? but at that point a few juniors might be taking it the 2nd time, but i would imagine most juniors would still retake in the spring
what was that second math module??? it was so hard for no reason 😭
Many students have expressed the same concerns! Best of luck on your score release :)
@@PrepworksEducation tysm!
does college board make curves? like do they boost grades abit if many people did bad
They don't make a straight up curve - but they conduct post-test manipulation of scores to ensure that scores are comparable month to month. I explain it all in the video!
Any way to obtain the questions for this SAT??
No, not legally...
I think the test wasn't bad, the only math question was the angle one tha gave me a bit of difficulty but I knew how to do just but I ran out of time. The reading on the writing section on the other hand...
mod2 for math was some fucking malarky how is ts even thought of i havent seen a density question in years and then theyre talking about how long something is WHEN DENSITY IS THE TOPIC AT HAND
It might’ve been experimental!
we'll see in a couple weeks lol but yeah the math M2 was def wayyy harder than the practice tests
Best of luck on the score release!!
Pray for me in English
Math module 1 was a joke
module 2 was rough ; - ;
Best of luck on your score release!
i felt it was relatively good
Cool beans! Best of luck on the score release!
@@PrepworksEducation Thank you!
for me, math mod 2 was easy. i knew how to do every question. it was reading mod 2 that messed me up.
Good luck on the score release!
the math mod 2 had a literal phsyics question smh
Tough! Best of luck on the score release!
right?? i skipped them lmao
is the november sat going to be the same?
There will be a similar trend for the fall dates.
@@PrepworksEducation so can you give us like a study guide for November . Or like tips on how to tackle these questions
It really wasn’t easy it was the opposite of easy😂 i’ve only got 2 weeks to study for it and i’ve thought i would get a 1500 easily but nevermind this was harder than anything I’ve ever seen on the practice tests. To November i have a full month to study i want to opt for mid 1500’s this time with proper preparation.
Thanks for the insight! Best of luck on the score release!
You need a whole ahh Biden PR team after this
LMAO. TH-cam will take care of it.
the 2nd mod english and math were so hard :/// hope i did good
Best of luck on the score release!
I think it was easy. I think the reading difficulty could be compared to pra 3 and the math difficulty could be compared to pra 6, there were prob like 3 question types on math module 2 I hadn’t seen the rest were not exactly the same as practice test but similar. I am rather scared i will be scoring in the high 1400s instead of my desired 1500 score. I predict i got like 4 wrong on reading( 1 wrong mod 1, 3 wrong mod 2) and 4 wrong on math mod 2.
Interesting stuff! Many other viewers found the October DSAT to be hard... I think it goes to show that the difficulty of the questions is not dependent on the month!
same! i had 3 i had not seen on math module 2
like the SHSAT exam in new york city
Interesting!
They cannot experiment like that.These are paid tests. Experimentation should be done offline not on real tests. I think some one should file for an audit. How is this fair also. ?
Hey, this is the same process used for all the past digital SATs. It’s not new news.
College Board does their best to ensure that the unpretested child questions emulate the statistical qualities of the parent model.
It’s a very rigorous testing process, which in many cases, results in accurate difficulty classifications.
It’s great until there is an inaccurate classification. Since no system is perfect, and there are clearly evident flaws within this one, students’ DSAT scores get impacted.
math was easy but english had me tweaking
Thanks for the insight! Best of luck on the score release!
wait am i the only person who felt easier in maths?i didnt study for this sat ,i did 4 practise tests from bluebook and each score was better than the preceding one of maths(english scores were kinda fluctuating but i got better at time management by doing just those 4 practise tests and watching some yt videos),so in jest the real test was the only time when i was confident all my answers were correct(maybe not one but since i dont remember that question it is pretty hard for me to check if it was correct or not).Hence,Both module1 and module2 was wayy easier for me than any practise test modules
The difficulty of the questions varies for everyone! Good luck on the score release!
@@PrepworksEducation ikr,another friend of mine got 1450 on AUG sat but he wanted >1500 to apply for ivy so he retook the test,but he said it was wayy harder in OCT and he'd be happy to just see 1300
5:50 r u serious? wtf??????????????????? where did u get this from?
Straight from College Board: satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/assessment-framework-for-digital-sat-suite.pdf
PDF page 39,40/227
In addition, College Board measurement experts perform differential item
functioning (DIF) analyses on pretested questions. This statistical method, in
brief, involves comparing samples of test taker performance to investigate
whether certain defined population subgroups (e.g., males and females) seem
to perform differently on given test questions. Assuming the premise that two
student samples of equivalent achievement should have an equal probability
of answering a given question correctly, DIF analysis seeks to uncover cases
where the performance of one sample (e.g., a group of students identifying as
female) differs from that of another sample (e.g., a group of students identifying
as male) to an extent unlikely to have occurred purely by chance. When questions
pretested for the digital SAT Suite exhibit high levels of DIF, those questions are
either discarded or revised and re-pretested
bros tryna save himself
Sickest apology video ever!
nah i’m taking my oct sat tomorrow. i think i’m cooked 😹
Best of luck! Hope it went well :)
gg I will simply get lucky no diff
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r&w was, math wasnt tbh
Best of luck on your score release!
ill let yall know what i got :sob:
Best of luck on the score release!
i got cooked bro i went down by 40 points 💀
Champions league waffle
:)
thats the problem with this chanel. makes random unfactual videos just for clicks and views. then gets caught and backtracks. nice.
I would highly suggest analyzing this manual before making a comment like this: satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/assessment-framework-for-digital-sat-suite.pdf
@@PrepworksEducation i would highly suggest on not making videos praying on clicks and views whilst damaging the reputation of this (poorly made channel imo) and inflating the hopes of poor students. It’s truly shameful.
@@chr0my134 So true
You are entitled to your own opinion. The truth prevails, of course :)
Bro that second mod for math had 5-8 questions that I didn’t know how to do and the worst part is that they were text entry so I couldn’t even take a lucky guess.
@@skchehrufhehrudydhe yeah right, that exactly happened to me too
ya same lol literally no place for me to study that kinda thing and had no time
Omg samee, everyone says the english was harder but no
Same here
omg yes, same