Come Suffer Little Children. Coal mine Disaster in 1838 which killed 29 children .

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  • Walking Industrial History. A hail storm over Lancashire and Yorkshire just 6 days after Queen Victoria's coronation. The resulting floods resulted in 26 boys and girls aged between 7 and 17 being drowned whilst escaping the Moorend colliery Husker drift. Meanwhile at Clapgate Colliery, Norden near Rochdale ,three other children shared the same fate.
    The story of the Husker children became widely known and resulted in a public outcry which in turn lead to the Shaftsbury report. The resulting legislation outlawed Women and girls from working underground and the minimum age of boys was raised to 10. However the story of the three boys from Norden was never told it wasn't even properly reported on in the local press. No memorial exists for them and they have been entirely written out of history.
    In this Video we take a close look at the events surrounding their tragic deaths and try to understand why their story was never told. This Video is dedicated to their memory; Abraham Grindrod aged 10. Abraham (John) Shepherd aged 11 and Samuel Dearden aged 9. Died July 4th 1838.
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  • @overburn6
    @overburn6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Devastating final section Clive. Well thought out & presented throughout.

  • @1122geoff
    @1122geoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well presented RIP little brave children

  • @boartank
    @boartank ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All you need is an old camera and we're transported back to the early 2000s. I'm glad we're past child labor. I appreciate we don't live in those times. Thanks for the video.

  • @izziebon
    @izziebon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant research and presentation full of heart.

  • @patriot6251
    @patriot6251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clive your presentation is spectacular which makes it enjoyable to listen and watch thanks .

  • @thesiluresscribe567
    @thesiluresscribe567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's shocking to hear about all of the lives lost 'underground'. I discovered the Husker Pit disaster whilst reading a book titled Women in Welsh Coal Mining by Norena Shopland. You comment in this film that there were 'two sides to industry' in the 1830s and you couldn't be more right. The ruling classes in Britain have a lot to answer for, most especially when we read about children being deformed through working in small tunnels and spaces. It's madness how the British Industrial Revolution used and abused its workforce. Unbelievable and extremely sad.

  • @jeanettecouncil8299
    @jeanettecouncil8299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am from the village of Silkstone Common, my late mother born there 1934, her father and his family worked in the collieries, mines, day holes in the village woods etc round the village. At one point in the village there was a few mines, one was by the railway station, West Silkstone Colliery, it was called "the Bull and Chain" by the villagers as Westfield House at the top of Blacker Green Lane where pit was had a huge bull in the field opposite it. A miner disappeared from the pit by the name of Arthur Pyrah, before WW1. I'd like to find out more about the mining history of the village and the Wentworth Incline or Plevna as it was referred to by mums aunts and uncles. It was part of the Woodhead route, built in the 1870's along with South Yorkshire Buildings.

  • @edogletree5175
    @edogletree5175 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very hard times, especially for children, I lost great grandfather to a mill accident death in US….you do excellent work…learned much. Thanks.

  • @davidscott4764
    @davidscott4764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a very powerful account. Thank you for all your work looking into this tragedy in Norden. Fascinating links to William Turner, and the possible influence he had in making this tragedy invisible in the local press.

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  ปีที่แล้ว

      Certainly David, Happy to. Seen your work on the 26 Riots...Do you do FaceBook? If so you can DM me and we can exchange phone numbers failing that its email

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The account I give at the end of the young lad half killed in the pit on Rooley Moor is similar...Newspapers and Ashley's report just say.....At a pit in the vicinity of Rooley Moor. It was a packed court house and the account got national coverage....so who were the owners and which pit was it? Not that they committed the crime but officials turned a blind eye. Most of Ashley's inquiry is quite specific with names but not in this case, again this could have been redacted news as we would say today

  • @WalkingWithWild
    @WalkingWithWild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Clive for all the hard work and research you put into making this tribute to the memory of 29 young souls. Paul Wild

  • @user-os2zp9ji5f
    @user-os2zp9ji5f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic well done and thank you, especially for adding the most relevant closing remarks

  • @keithrimmer3
    @keithrimmer3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sad times indeed Clive, god knows how many lives were lost in the coal mines in them days

  • @wendybarker3903
    @wendybarker3903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the interesting video

  • @thelastpit2152
    @thelastpit2152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fascinating stuff, Clive. Looking forward to one on the Roachburn disaster.

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been thinking on that Jez...I think the present day owner might be quite curmudgeonly so it maybe from a far...But we got some almost eye witness testimony

  • @gb5uq
    @gb5uq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Clive you should have a TV series you're amazing. Thank you so much for all you do.

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only eh! Thanks for the compliment. I think Im too old for the Beebs criteria these days😅

  • @thatblokeonamotorbike
    @thatblokeonamotorbike ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clive, this is one of the best videos I have watched on TH-cam. fantastic presentation and a massive amunt of work you put in to find the details.
    It beats a lot of mainstream documentary programs in my eyes.

  • @adamrussell7978
    @adamrussell7978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done Clive... A quality Vid n very interesting slice o little known History that You have brought to light... 😉👍👍👍👌✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @bremnersghost948
    @bremnersghost948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if its because I love Sharpe or have been watching a lot about Mining disasters recently that got yt to recommend your channel RC but I'm glad they did, quality content cheers.

  • @tuffgonggbUNCTION
    @tuffgonggbUNCTION 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MARANATHA ❤

  • @DaysofHorror
    @DaysofHorror 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love this and the way you present it. These are the kind of stories I uncover myself and being in Haslingden, this is more than relevant to me with it being local 👍

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I have seen some of your videos and enjoyed them. I used to live on Hall Park 30 years ago

  • @MakeAllThingsBeautiful
    @MakeAllThingsBeautiful ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very thought provoking, thanks, love any reference to Arch Stanton, why can't church's leave there guests to Rip?

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was sad that I couldn't find the lads grave, its as though every trace of them has been removed. However, thanks to a guy in Rochdale, after reading of the incident, there is now a nice stone memorial in Jubilee Park Norden, to the three lads

  • @TheMercury-13
    @TheMercury-13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with another comment, you should be on TV! So glad the victims have someone to speak up for them, otherwise they'd be virtually forgot which isn't right. I found the 'In your area' article by chance, which led here; there's a photo of you mining 1994? Just seeing it makes me feel claustrophobic, to imagine being in those tiny spaces underground with rising water is horrendous. This country made great riches off Miners doing a tough & dangerous job, least we can do is remember them, & appreciate that we don't live their lives. More I learn about the 'Industrial Revolution', the more I think it wasn't so good; life-quality for 'everyday' people plummeted while others made fortunes off them, it wasn't really 'progress'?

    • @rossendalecollieries7995
      @rossendalecollieries7995  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comments. Its great the children are now remembered. Yes that was me in 1994 and the same coal is still being worked today in the same area in the same way, but obviously no children. You do get used to the cramped conditions and they become normal.
      It is hard to imagine how frightening it would have been for those children and the distresses of their parents.

  • @vonburklow9765
    @vonburklow9765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow