I noticed that two of the Baylor TDs came against Freshmen DBs (Alexander and Prassas). We still got the W, and I think those dudes will learn from this and get better.
The offense was bad because the core of our offensive line was gone and we were on our 4th string running back, and Baylor has a very strong defense. BYU overcame crazy adversity to win this game, offense deserves credit, defense won the game but did have some suspicious moments (the entire first half) and special teams looked strong. Same as we just game planned wrong in the first game of the year, we had no idea they're qb could ball out this much
Thanks for the level headed analysis. So tired of all the Retzlaff and arod hate. Definitely not the best game byu has played..yet they still scored 34 and got their first road win against a big 12 team. Huge improvement from this team compared to the last couple seasons.
I think losing Conner Pay was a huge reason the offense sputtered out. He calls the protection of OL. That's a huge loss! They lost a bunch of players, relied on their depth, and still pulled out the win! None of these games fall BYU's way in years past. With having to rely on 3's and 4's to finish out the game, they made the win happen. They now have a bye to reset and get some guys healthy. BYU is in the best position possible 5 games in. They have 2 weeks to prepare for Arizona at home. The Cougs are a stellar situational football team so far this year. I'm ecstatic for 5-0 and am hoping to see them improve for the next game. 1 game at time! Go Cougs!
A win is still a win. Knew that there are going to be challenges during the season. This game was like BYU of the 80s when they scored high and early and had to hold on to the lead until the end of the game and hold the other team from scoring and catching up.
After Connor Pay went out, you started seeing a bunch of low snaps. It seemed to mess up the rhythm and timing. There was quite a drop-off when he went out.
Jake had a horrific second half, as did Arod. The defense adjusted out of what was working into a soft zone, then back into what was working again. The backups that were forced to play did well.
With all the complaining about how BYU almost let the game get away and how they escaped and blah blah blah, are we just not watching college football in America ever? Conference games happen like this all the time. Look at the Alabama-Georgia game…Bama was blowing UG out and let them back in deep into the 4th quarter and pulled it out at the end. I am absolutely not saying BYU and BU are on the level of those teams, but they are certainly on similar talent level as each other. And BYU was playing on the road where they’ve typically struggled in day games and on the road in the BIG12. I think we should be loving up these Cougs for going above and beyond anything anyone could’ve expected of them. Not nitpicking and complaining.
The defense played quite well I thought. Baylor was uncanny with their NFL type catches on the sidelines on several of the third and for down plays. You can’t expect the defense to defend those plays any better than they did.
This team still leaves a lot of question marks. The Cougs were straight trash in the second half. Hopefully they get it together and beat Arizona who just punked the Utes in SLC.
Interesting. Perhaps. But I try to see the whole picture. The RB’s we’re using are freshman or new players. There’s no continuity there. Makes a difference. Also, the offensive line was decimated by injuries. Makes a difference. Lastly, they seemed to block pretty well for that Retzlaff TD run. Is the o line great in the run game? No. But I wouldn’t call them horrible either given the circumstances.
The defense didn’t win it for us? I guess I missed those last three BU possessions when they had all the momentum when our offense was doing nothing…yet we stuffed them three straight times to save the win. I think I’d give the D a little more credit.
Nobody isn’t giving the D credit, lol. The D did great in big moments. The offense also scored 34 points. Saying one side or the other is THE reason BYU won is silly. True team win.
Didn’t say that I thought the D was the only reason we won. But Jeff literally scoffed at the notion that the defense should get any serious credit for the win. Just straight up dismissive. But ya, I agree that it was a team win because there was great plays by each of the offense, defense and special teams. But three straight huge defensive stopped at the end? I don’t think that should be dismissive about. Never said the defense was amazing all game.
Our run game is way too perdictable. up the middle can see it comming every time through out the last five games. We need to try and mix it up pitch it go out side 2 in the backfeild something diferent
Thanks for educating the ignorant portion of the fan base. Complaining that the offense only scored 34 points is insane. Utah 23 Baylor 12 BYU 34 Baylor 28 So BYU’s offense put 11 more points on Baylor than Utah, with its top Center out, other top O-Linemen out, top 2 RB’s out. And still scored 34 points on the road! BYU’s defense was good, but not great today, giving up 28 points, where Utah only gave up 12 points to Baylor. Utah is a Top 10 team. BYU was predicted to win 4 games. How miserable of a person do you have to be to not feel fantastic about 5-0, the first conference road win, and a 34 point offensive performance on the road?! I wish these melancholic complainers would jump on the bandwagon and celebrate a great road win as fans of an overachieving team in its 2nd year in a Power 4 Conference!
BYU offense scored more points against Baylor than Colorado did (in regulation) and Colorado had them at home. Just sayin’ That’s pretty good considering the all stars Colorado has in Sanders and Hunter
You’re wrong. Even other analysts are calling out Roderick for his playing not to lose play calling. Also, you can almost GUARANTEE 2nd and long is a run. Every defense knows it.
More than 50% of the second half play calls were passes… with a three-score lead. A fake punt call on 4th and 11? That’s not really conservative. The execution was terrible.
This OC…. Run it when you should throw it, throw it when you should run it, and not taking a shot after the fake punt is just as bad. 🤷♂️ I’m baffled by it
What about the no-call on the passing interference on the trick pass play in the endzone. The defensive back pushed the receiver when the ball was in the air. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOUCH DOWN!!!!
Sound reasoning Jeff! You bounced off poor execution of "a bad play called", at one point and said more on that later. Maybe what you said about playing not to lose later is where you were going with that. But what ever you call it, especially late in the game, Arod seemed to gear down the play calling, as if he had no confidence that Jake could complete a short pass to keep the chains moving. Jake had faltered, and did not look as sharp at that point, but we've seen the wrong play calls from Arod before, that one could blame for losing games like this. I said out loud after that TD pass to Lassiter, "OK Jake, I am a believer!" By the end of the game, I was questioning my statement, but if the play caller gears down because of a falter, the game is changed. I hope that is not the case!
I think there should be more consideration given to the “questionable” play calls when you take into consideration that the offensive line had quite a few players playing out of position (some third stringers) coincidentally when the offense started sputtering. Remember, these guys getting in the game are not ones that have been getting all the first team reps in practice. The OC needs to often adjust the play calls based on the level of confidence in the knowledge of the playbook that these new o-linemen may or may not have.
Yeah that’s what I meant and did a terrible job of calling it back. But yes… just a lot of bad execution in the second half (and I really hated that 3rd and 2 pass decision so much… beyond that, the play calls weren’t the problem. The execution was bad bad.)
2nd half Baylor was determined to stop the run and did. Arod never caught on and made it easy for Baylor to predict run first, pass as last resort. When Arod white flaggs on 3 rd down you know he doesnt trust Retzlaff and is terrified of an interception.
The defense couldn't get off the field the whole second half, you can't expect a defense to spend that much time on the field. That's on the offense, how do people not get that ? Rhetorical
Continues to be baffled by the play calling. Some of these plays ARod goes to are pretty complex and take a high degree of execution to properly execute. This team is not able to do execute at that high of a level which leads to getting behind the sticks. First half, ARod wasn’t trying to do anything too cute or too fancy. Keep doing what you’re doing! Offenses need to be in rhythm but once you fall out it is hard to get it back. Stop trying so hard to be cute ARod.
Very poor play call on offense in the second half. BYU defense won this one, don’t know how far that will take the cougars. Turnover-laff was back trying to snatch defeat from victory.
Some of us are not "fans" Jeffy. Sone if us are 43 year veteran football analysts, FWAA and analysts. Aaron Rodersick continues BYU' stupid 13 year long RPO tendencies to run on 2nd and 10, and then pass on 3rd and 8 parallel to the LOS and well behind the chains. Bubble screens are not cutting it. BYU has s fantastic playbook. Aaron Roserick does not know how to use it. How many times were his big TEs targeted? I think you need more education in the game Jeff. How often did BYU use a zone block right, but back door Jake on the run or throw on the Steve Young naked bootleg left or back door cut and pass to the RE after a WR clearout in the middle? Roderick could learn more 7seful 0lays in ine hour sitting eith Sndy Reid than he ever learned from Norm Freak'n Chow. He doesn't know how to call plays. Steve Young, Robbie Bosco, Brandon Doman, Ty Detmer and Jim MccMahon have all commented on the l9ss of WCO prowess because Staff s8nce Br9nco thought they were smarter than Bill Walsh, Lavell Edwards, Wally English and Mike Holmgren. BYU could be a national power on offense right now. Make Aaron Roderick get back to WCO plays based in Down and Distance tendencies against h3ad counts (count the heads in the box). It works. That you don't know this is evidence of your age.
Well, Retzlaff Is back to his old self! A Rod plays to NOT LOSE, rather to WIN! They are lucky they escaped with the win! Once again, the DEFENSE saved the day!
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I noticed that two of the Baylor TDs came against Freshmen DBs (Alexander and Prassas). We still got the W, and I think those dudes will learn from this and get better.
Nobody complaining had BYU 5-0 or even 4-1. This was an ideal win because this team needs to stay humble
The offense was bad because the core of our offensive line was gone and we were on our 4th string running back, and Baylor has a very strong defense. BYU overcame crazy adversity to win this game, offense deserves credit, defense won the game but did have some suspicious moments (the entire first half) and special teams looked strong. Same as we just game planned wrong in the first game of the year, we had no idea they're qb could ball out this much
It's ok to say the offense sputtered out in the second half without a bunch of excuses........
@@michcougit's okay to admit that Baylor's defense adjusted and played well in the 2nd half and that BYU was down key players on offense.
This is much better analysis than what Twitter has provided so far
Thanks for the level headed analysis. So tired of all the Retzlaff and arod hate. Definitely not the best game byu has played..yet they still scored 34 and got their first road win against a big 12 team. Huge improvement from this team compared to the last couple seasons.
I think losing Conner Pay was a huge reason the offense sputtered out. He calls the protection of OL. That's a huge loss! They lost a bunch of players, relied on their depth, and still pulled out the win! None of these games fall BYU's way in years past. With having to rely on 3's and 4's to finish out the game, they made the win happen. They now have a bye to reset and get some guys healthy. BYU is in the best position possible 5 games in. They have 2 weeks to prepare for Arizona at home. The Cougs are a stellar situational football team so far this year. I'm ecstatic for 5-0 and am hoping to see them improve for the next game. 1 game at time! Go Cougs!
A win is still a win. Knew that there are going to be challenges during the season. This game was like BYU of the 80s when they scored high and early and had to hold on to the lead until the end of the game and hold the other team from scoring and catching up.
Thank you! Team effort, this wasn’t an all out win by defense only or offense only. Both had shining parts and some dark spots
After Connor Pay went out, you started seeing a bunch of low snaps. It seemed to mess up the rhythm and timing. There was quite a drop-off when he went out.
Jake had a horrific second half, as did Arod. The defense adjusted out of what was working into a soft zone, then back into what was working again. The backups that were forced to play did well.
With all the complaining about how BYU almost let the game get away and how they escaped and blah blah blah, are we just not watching college football in America ever? Conference games happen like this all the time. Look at the Alabama-Georgia game…Bama was blowing UG out and let them back in deep into the 4th quarter and pulled it out at the end. I am absolutely not saying BYU and BU are on the level of those teams, but they are certainly on similar talent level as each other. And BYU was playing on the road where they’ve typically struggled in day games and on the road in the BIG12.
I think we should be loving up these Cougs for going above and beyond anything anyone could’ve expected of them. Not nitpicking and complaining.
I appreciate your insights. They seem spot on to me.
The defense played quite well I thought. Baylor was uncanny with their NFL type catches on the sidelines on several of the third and for down plays. You can’t expect the defense to defend those plays any better than they did.
This team still leaves a lot of question marks. The Cougs were straight trash in the second half. Hopefully they get it together and beat Arizona who just punked the Utes in SLC.
BYU's lack of O-line depth cost them
Sure it cost them, but at least we had a coupon and didn’t pay full price. Still got the win lol
Especially in light of Utah's loss, it's worth noting how there are only two undefeated members of the conference.
I agree about the running game. This O line simply cannot run block.
Interesting. Perhaps. But I try to see the whole picture. The RB’s we’re using are freshman or new players. There’s no continuity there. Makes a difference.
Also, the offensive line was decimated by injuries. Makes a difference. Lastly, they seemed to block pretty well for that Retzlaff TD run.
Is the o line great in the run game? No. But I wouldn’t call them horrible either given the circumstances.
They were running wild in the first half before pay got hurt
They really have never ever been able to do that EVER.
The defense didn’t win it for us? I guess I missed those last three BU possessions when they had all the momentum when our offense was doing nothing…yet we stuffed them three straight times to save the win. I think I’d give the D a little more credit.
Nobody isn’t giving the D credit, lol. The D did great in big moments. The offense also scored 34 points. Saying one side or the other is THE reason BYU won is silly. True team win.
Didn’t say that I thought the D was the only reason we won. But Jeff literally scoffed at the notion that the defense should get any serious credit for the win. Just straight up dismissive. But ya, I agree that it was a team win because there was great plays by each of the offense, defense and special teams. But three straight huge defensive stopped at the end? I don’t think that should be dismissive about. Never said the defense was amazing all game.
Our run game is way too perdictable. up the middle can see it comming every time through out the last five games. We need to try and mix it up pitch it go out side 2 in the backfeild something diferent
It’s easy to say that the defense won this game because we saw them make a stand at the end.
A stand at the end? You mean three straight possessions at the end when BU had all the momentum at home? That was a pretty good stand!😂
2 stands at the end.
Thanks for educating the ignorant portion of the fan base. Complaining that the offense only scored 34 points is insane.
Utah 23 Baylor 12
BYU 34 Baylor 28
So BYU’s offense put 11 more points on Baylor than Utah, with its top Center out, other top O-Linemen out, top 2 RB’s out. And still scored 34 points on the road!
BYU’s defense was good, but not great today, giving up 28 points, where Utah only gave up 12 points to Baylor.
Utah is a Top 10 team.
BYU was predicted to win 4 games.
How miserable of a person do you have to be to not feel fantastic about 5-0, the first conference road win, and a 34 point offensive performance on the road?!
I wish these melancholic complainers would jump on the bandwagon and celebrate a great road win as fans of an overachieving team in its 2nd year in a Power 4 Conference!
Utah is not a Top 10 team. Not even Top 15. We gonna beat them.
BYU's special teams were anything but special today
Except for the fake punt.
And the career long 54 yard FG by Ferrin…second longest all time in BYU history.
…and the 70 yard punt to pin the Bears at their 5 yard line. But ya…special teams toooootally horrible.
BYU offense scored more points against Baylor than Colorado did (in regulation) and Colorado had them at home.
Just sayin’
That’s pretty good considering the all stars Colorado has in Sanders and Hunter
You’re wrong. Even other analysts are calling out Roderick for his playing not to lose play calling. Also, you can almost GUARANTEE 2nd and long is a run. Every defense knows it.
More than 50% of the second half play calls were passes… with a three-score lead. A fake punt call on 4th and 11? That’s not really conservative.
The execution was terrible.
This OC…. Run it when you should throw it, throw it when you should run it, and not taking a shot after the fake punt is just as bad. 🤷♂️ I’m baffled by it
What about the no-call on the passing interference on the trick pass play in the endzone. The defensive back pushed the receiver when the ball was in the air. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOUCH DOWN!!!!
I thought ByU’s defense played well, Baylor’s WR’s were just making plays
Decent anylisis
Sound reasoning Jeff! You bounced off poor execution of "a bad play called", at one point and said more on that later. Maybe what you said about playing not to lose later is where you were going with that. But what ever you call it, especially late in the game, Arod seemed to gear down the play calling, as if he had no confidence that Jake could complete a short pass to keep the chains moving. Jake had faltered, and did not look as sharp at that point, but we've seen the wrong play calls from Arod before, that one could blame for losing games like this. I said out loud after that TD pass to Lassiter, "OK Jake, I am a believer!" By the end of the game, I was questioning my statement, but if the play caller gears down because of a falter, the game is changed. I hope that is not the case!
I think there should be more consideration given to the “questionable” play calls when you take into consideration that the offensive line had quite a few players playing out of position (some third stringers) coincidentally when the offense started sputtering. Remember, these guys getting in the game are not ones that have been getting all the first team reps in practice. The OC needs to often adjust the play calls based on the level of confidence in the knowledge of the playbook that these new o-linemen may or may not have.
Yeah that’s what I meant and did a terrible job of calling it back. But yes… just a lot of bad execution in the second half (and I really hated that 3rd and 2 pass decision so much… beyond that, the play calls weren’t the problem. The execution was bad bad.)
2nd half Baylor was determined to stop the run and did. Arod never caught on and made it easy for Baylor to predict run first, pass as last resort. When Arod white flaggs on 3 rd down you know he doesnt trust Retzlaff and is terrified of an interception.
Baylor's QB had all day to pass on 3rd and 4th down
BYU also had a season high in sacks on this game. Definitely up and down performance.
@@rakoto101I would not have guessed that based on how it felt to watch
As long as BYU wins ARod will have his job. I am guessing BYU will go undefeated.
Hey, we won. Our coaches need to trust the players more and they don’t have a killer mentality. Hopefully they learn from this game
The defense couldn't get off the field the whole second half, you can't expect a defense to spend that much time on the field. That's on the offense, how do people not get that ? Rhetorical
Continues to be baffled by the play calling. Some of these plays ARod goes to are pretty complex and take a high degree of execution to properly execute. This team is not able to do execute at that high of a level which leads to getting behind the sticks.
First half, ARod wasn’t trying to do anything too cute or too fancy. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Offenses need to be in rhythm but once you fall out it is hard to get it back. Stop trying so hard to be cute ARod.
Very poor play call on offense in the second half. BYU defense won this one, don’t know how far that will take the cougars. Turnover-laff was back trying to snatch defeat from victory.
Some of us are not "fans" Jeffy. Sone if us are 43 year veteran football analysts, FWAA and analysts.
Aaron Rodersick continues BYU' stupid 13 year long RPO tendencies to run on 2nd and 10, and then pass on 3rd and 8 parallel to the LOS and well behind the chains. Bubble screens are not cutting it. BYU has s fantastic playbook. Aaron Roserick does not know how to use it.
How many times were his big TEs targeted? I think you need more education in the game Jeff. How often did BYU use a zone block right, but back door Jake on the run or throw on the Steve Young naked bootleg left or back door cut and pass to the RE after a WR clearout in the middle? Roderick could learn more 7seful 0lays in ine hour sitting eith Sndy Reid than he ever learned from Norm Freak'n Chow. He doesn't know how to call plays.
Steve Young, Robbie Bosco, Brandon Doman, Ty Detmer and Jim MccMahon have all commented on the l9ss of WCO prowess because Staff s8nce Br9nco thought they were smarter than Bill Walsh, Lavell Edwards, Wally English and Mike Holmgren. BYU could be a national power on offense right now. Make Aaron Roderick get back to WCO plays based in Down and Distance tendencies against h3ad counts (count the heads in the box). It works. That you don't know this is evidence of your age.
This whole post is definitely evidence of your age.
What “stood out” to me was the 28 point 1st half and the 6 point 2nd half. Makes me worried they’re just a flash in the pan
Well, Retzlaff Is back to his old self! A Rod plays to NOT LOSE, rather to WIN! They are lucky they escaped with the win! Once again, the DEFENSE saved the day!