8:40 all the Warchief cards in the cycle are wearing medallions since their cost reducing effect is like that of the medallion cycle, in this case Emerald Medallion.
An Emerald Medallion that can punch you in the face? Graham wouldn't know anything about that, surely. (i may have just recently rewatched the G+K Game Knights episode)
I know that this was recorded long ago and any interest in this information has long since been forgotten or disregarded, but for the sake of engagement I'll type this up anyway. Long term plans is "good" because it is instant speed, allowing you to hold up interaction and tutor for something you'll need in the future if you don't need to kill or counter anything. Notably, it's also one of very few unconditional tutors that are not black. The fact that it's in the color (arguably) best suited to dig those three cards the fastest definitely helps. The Warchief is part of a cycle, one in each color that reduced a creature type's cost and gave it another effect. White cared about soldiers and gave them +1/+2 a reference to "Holy Strength." Black, to zombies and +2/+1 a reference to "Unholy Strength." Red to goblins and gave them haste. Blue to illusions, but could change that with a tap ability on the creature. Each had a necklace on in its art, which I believe, but am not positive, was a reference to the Medallion cycle in Tempest.
Scourge was absolutely draftable, but probably wasn't _meant_ to be drafted in an environment outside Onslaught-Legions-Scourge. Limited has been around since at least 1996, Mirage was the first set designed with drafting in mind.
4:37 They try to avoid changing the creature types on cards from this block, as it was a tribal block and thus changing the creature types would change how the cards play more than for other blocks.
6:58 A long time ago Marshall Sutcliffe did a retro draft of OLS and when he saw Rush of Knowledge he completely freaked out, he went on for like ten seconds about how awesome it was, then double-checked to make sure he'd read it correctly because he couldn't believe they'd print something that draws that many cards. Then the first time he drew it he got distracted again and started saying things like "That card is just insane"
I *love* Scourge. For some reason, the art direction and weird-ass cards give me a cozy feeling. Maybe because the oldest cards I started playing with were, among others, Scourge.
I remember a commander game I played where someone had upwelling. After a turn cycle or two everyone just has 30+ mana and the game was absolutely wild.
Oh man, this pack is a banger! I never played Scourge proper, but I have played with almost all of these cards in other commander decks over the years. As Graham realized with the Temporal Fissure, it really makes it pretty clear that the set wants you to get some cheap things to fire off a storm payoff, or some big things that you can upwell your mana into, trigger your dragon scales, draw with your rush of knowledge, etc. Mechanically, I feel like I completely understand this set from looking at these cards, and that is a great as-fan.
Misguided Rage is also the third card of an Onslaught block spanning cycle that had flavour text depicting something bad happening to a goblin named Furt. The other two cards were: Nosy Goblin in Onslaught - To his surprise, Furt discovered that the strange creatures were not at all like bugs. Goblin Lookout in Legions - “Throw rocks at ‘em! Throw spears at 'em! Throw Furt at 'em!” And then Misguided Rage in Scourge - Only when the anger passed did Varv realize he had burned down his home, destroyed his weapons, and killed his friend Furt. I'd have to wager that they'll eventually make a legendary Furt card.
Commander has brain-poisoned people so bad that they see a funny name pop up in flavor text three times, including one that canonically states that they're dead, and they go "well they're OBLIGATED to make a legendary creature for this character that has had three flavor text, none of which is anything the character has said, they HAVE TO do it". There's not even anything to draw from. Furt wouldn't _do_ anything because he's just a goblin. There are so many better goblin commanders and yet nope, it's a named character, they've GOTTA make a card for them now.
C'mon, man. I also dislike Commander affecting card design but there's always been an old flavor text to new card pipeline. Any named character would have to be legendary and supplemental sets feature canonically dead characters all the time.
@@StarkMaximum Chill. They didn't say they are obligated, just that they think it's likely, considering the frequency with which they turn dead characters and character from flavor text into cards. It's not "brain-poisoning" to expect something based on numerous examples over the last several years. It's so bizarre that something as innocuous as "this named character that showed up a few times might get a card" would elicit an angry reaction.
Scattershot is played in some pauperdecks because Grapeshot is banned. Its JUST a much worse grapeshot but manages to find some sideboard spots in certain decks regardless.
You can draw 10 cards with Rush of Knowledge in a Reaper King commander deck because its mana value is technically 10 even though can pay WUBURG to cast it.
I assume Death's-Head Buzzard came up in Magic Battlegrounds, which was a cool fighting game-like version of Magic. I remember spending untold amounts of time with it even if I couldn't actually play any people, the AI and all the various decks you could build was more than enough for me.
Big fan of the Dragon aura cycle. Put 'em on something small early game, let them die, then when you play your big threat late game you get to stack a bunch of buffs on them for free.
They've seen a small resurgence with Eriette from WoE (I've certainly got Scales and the black one in mine) as they're recurrent auras that can go on your opponent's stuff for free.
I don't know the best way to use Long-Term Plans but it's good in Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge where you put a card that you want to cast with Jeleva third from the top, then exile it with her and cast it for free when she attacks.
Long-Term Plans is playable in Commander, where being restricted on colours often means that you don't have access to better tutors that can tutor for any card, and the "you need to draw three cards" stipulation isn't that big of a deal when you're in blue anyway
Vigilance? Keyworded first in Champions of Kamigawa, which was the fall set for 2004. This being the final set where the original frame was still the only one in a standard legal set came out in spring of 2023.
Long term plans isn't the best tutor but it is 3 mana which is whatever, it's instant speed, and it can get Anything in Blue. So you only wait 2 turns or if you draw more get it immediately. Again blue instant speed anything. So it is terrible if you compare it to black but when compared to other color tutors it seems better.
Rush of Knowledge sees some Pauper play, usually in the Gurmag Angler (or similar) decks. 5-mana draw 7 is very good. Also, that Aven Liberator is very scary, unmorphing for 4 and being able to eat any morph is terrifying
Just to be clear, are you referring to it being a 2/3 or the protection effect in regards to it eating Morphs, because if it's the later, Morphs are colorless.
This was a fun watch to see what you pulled. I was surprised at how few of the cards I recognized, but the Dragon Scales and Krosan Warchief were exciting (to me).
Long term plans is notable for two reasons. Its an unrestricted tutor that allows busted creatures, enchantments, and artifacts to be tutored by a blue deck. This allows you to tutor cards that take your deck to the stratosphere and usually find a home when the commander can help you draw to it. Azami wizards decks or the Zndrsplt and Okaun. A two mana tutor that takes extra leg work can be worth it when cards like Krark’s thumb bust the deck wide open. On the other side there are commanders that care about the top of your library and long term plans gives you a way to cheat that. The easiest example is Narset, Enlightened Master which casts the top 4 cards of your library for free if they are noncreatures. Long Term Plans is definitely not the most busted cards it’s just held some value from being potent in a handful of reasonably popular commanders. If it ever gets reprinted outside of something like the coin flip Secret Lair commander deck then it’s price will probably drop because it’s home is niche.
You were very much supposed to draft this set, as part of the block, and that's where something like Scattershot came into play: Limited Storm couldn't guarantee they'd have the kill package and might need to just storm off to clear the ground and start swinging in. As for Long-Term Plans it has a lot of different uses but #1 with a bullet in the Current Year is that Commander is a thing, color identity is a thing, and blue doesn't get a ton of other tutors. :V
I run Long Term Plans in my Siani/Akroma flyers deck. I cast it before combat, swing in with at least two flyers, and now it's on the top of my deck. With cards like Bident of Thassa and Reconnaissance Mission, I can often draw the card I tutored for that turn.
Minds Desire Storm was one of the strongest and most satisfying deck to play of my youth, remember just like yesterday. But it could make you lose some friend to quit rage
Long term plans seems like it would be good with effects that look at cards from the top of your library. Like 6 mana Narset - you could tutor some big noncreature spell and play it for free, or Winota, you could fetch a human you want before attacking.
Long term plans can find any card type where as most blue tutors are limited to one instant/sorcery. Blue also has cards like Brainstorm and Ponder to get the card immediately. Rush of Knowledge is great with Affinity creatures among others. Upwelling is decent but being symmetrical does hurt it. It basically makes all of your mana sources storage lands. You get to make a bunch of mana over two or three turns than cast an X Spell.
Also of note Scourge was final set of Onslaught block. Although it was not intended to drafted by itself it was supposed to drafted with both Onslaught(first set and biggest set) and legions(middle set and also small set)
Ouh this is from back when I started. That whole block was great fun for a beginner it had tribal, big cmc and dragons. All a Timmy could want. Dragon Scales was part of a cycle. The red one was great in reanimator and oath decks to give haste to your finisher for free. Vigilance wasn't a keyword until Champions of Kamigawa. There was no focus on colours really just tribal but the Aven Liberator is a solid combat trick and there were plenty of morphs to bluff with. There was no indestructible until Darksteel (2 sets after this one) so Lingering Death is just slow removal that can kill black and artifact creatures. Rush of Knowledge was quite good actually since the format can be slow (especially if it's 3xScourge) and there is Scornefull Egotist in the set to cheat a high CMC. Long Term Plans is alright if you can combine it with some cantrips in constructed. All the chieftains wore a necklace. Beasts was probably the weakest tribe when it came to synergy. The format would have been Onslaught+Legions+Scourge except for maybe release week where it would have 3x Scourge. My pick is probably Rush of Knowledge if it's 3xScourge and otherwise maybe Aven Liberator but it would depend heavily on what was in the first 2 packs.
Temporal Fissure was busted in Pauper, so much so that it got banned. I believe Gilded Light was a good card in Block and Standard, for exactly the reasons you said. Plus, it had good synergy with Astral Slide and Lightning Rift. I have vague memories of there being a completive Upwelling deck at some point in some format, but I could be completely making that up.
I think I remember Wheeler saying something like when you're playing a combo deck in Highlander you put in all the good tutors, then you put the okay tutors and you put in the bad tutors. That might be why Long-Term Plans is nearly 2 dollars?
If you have a "top of the deck matters" it's kind of useful. With things like scry or surveil it's easy to reach at the third card. Brainstorm, Top... plus it's an Instant
1:25 I'd argue that it *is* either here or there re: card quality, since if we don't make noise about it here (in the fanbase) they're not gonna do anything about it there (at WotC.) That said, I have neither purchased MTG cards nor played a paper game in quite some time, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt--mostly I'm just here for the engagement :)
Play Long Term plans after Approach of the Second Sun to accelerate it maybe? Scourge was my first set and I have so much nostalgia for it. Daru Warchief made me want to go into building a mono white soldier deck early on!
You'd draft it with a pack of Onslaught and a pack of Legion so it would always be pack 3 (at least how we did it)Depending on what you had drafted before there are a couple of "okay for the time" cards
I had a deck back in the Scourge days with Rush of Knowledge and Scornful Egotist, the 8 mana 1/1 with morph 1. Draw 4 for 5 is alright, but try drawing 8,
Alas, no Scornful Egotist. I wish Graham had opened one and none of the mana-value-matters cards just so he could be completely flummoxed by an eight-mana 1/1. Still, fond memories of this set. The very last one with the original frame. (Vigilance was more than a year away in Champions of Kamigawa.)
I think target player sacrifices a permanent might still be an effect red gets, certainly it was getting it at common in a premier set in 2020 (Earth-Cult Elemental). It's basically a worse stone rain that the opponent can buy out of like a punisher effect.
Scourge was designed to draft but not alone. Onslaught block was tribal so the beast lord was good but you'd know if you wanted it. Utility tappers like sparksmith or timberwatch elf were scary so bad removal to kill them was playable. Overall scourge was one of those third sets that felt a bit forced and gave blocks a weak image. I still miss blocks though.
I had a casual Golem typal deck that can win on turn 3 thanks to Rush of Knowledge 1: Artifact land Ornithopter Paradise mantle, Equip mantle 2 Artifact land Pentad Prism 3 Artifact land, Mycosynth Golem, Composite golem (cost 0 thanks to affinity), Sac for WUBRG, Rush of knowledge, Draw 11 Composite Golem for 0 Composite golem for 0 Mycosynth golem for 0 Bosh for 0 Sacrifice Composite golems for WUBRG WUBRG Activate Bosh Sacing Mycosynth golem to deal 11 to your face, Activate Bosh to Fling Mycosynth golem at your face for another 11
So ... don't spend 2 hours making a pauper brew around sprouting Vine storm, only to re-read it says "into your hand" ... mid game. Oops. Scatter shot could work, if you link a creature to a player, but in that case probably belongs in *That Cube* .
8:40 all the Warchief cards in the cycle are wearing medallions since their cost reducing effect is like that of the medallion cycle, in this case Emerald Medallion.
Aaah, that makes sense.
I was looking exactly that on scryfall.
I know it's not the only depiction of the moxes in other cards
An Emerald Medallion that can punch you in the face? Graham wouldn't know anything about that, surely.
(i may have just recently rewatched the G+K Game Knights episode)
I know that this was recorded long ago and any interest in this information has long since been forgotten or disregarded, but for the sake of engagement I'll type this up anyway. Long term plans is "good" because it is instant speed, allowing you to hold up interaction and tutor for something you'll need in the future if you don't need to kill or counter anything. Notably, it's also one of very few unconditional tutors that are not black. The fact that it's in the color (arguably) best suited to dig those three cards the fastest definitely helps. The Warchief is part of a cycle, one in each color that reduced a creature type's cost and gave it another effect. White cared about soldiers and gave them +1/+2 a reference to "Holy Strength." Black, to zombies and +2/+1 a reference to "Unholy Strength." Red to goblins and gave them haste. Blue to illusions, but could change that with a tap ability on the creature. Each had a necklace on in its art, which I believe, but am not positive, was a reference to the Medallion cycle in Tempest.
Came to say the same, but you did it much more eloquently than I would have, well done!
Long Term Plans + Preordain = Diabolic Tutor at home?
I've been running LTP for a loooong time in my Arcanis the Omnipotent EDH deck, quite solid indeed!
I suppose if you're playing Blue, any card within like 5 of the top is pretty well within reach.
I *was* just thinking that long-term plans goes really well with a brainstorm :P
Scourge was absolutely draftable, but probably wasn't _meant_ to be drafted in an environment outside Onslaught-Legions-Scourge. Limited has been around since at least 1996, Mirage was the first set designed with drafting in mind.
4:37 They try to avoid changing the creature types on cards from this block, as it was a tribal block and thus changing the creature types would change how the cards play more than for other blocks.
6:58 A long time ago Marshall Sutcliffe did a retro draft of OLS and when he saw Rush of Knowledge he completely freaked out, he went on for like ten seconds about how awesome it was, then double-checked to make sure he'd read it correctly because he couldn't believe they'd print something that draws that many cards. Then the first time he drew it he got distracted again and started saying things like "That card is just insane"
I *love* Scourge. For some reason, the art direction and weird-ass cards give me a cozy feeling. Maybe because the oldest cards I started playing with were, among others, Scourge.
Rush of Knowledge + Scornful Egoist on the Morph.
True, that's a great interaction
Came here to say this. It still doesn't make Scornful Egotist worth running though - it's a trap
@@viperion_nz I can't be bad if it was one of the precon-decks /j
@@viperion_nz You dare besmirch our mighty lord Scornful Egotist?
@@viperion_nz 😢
I remember a commander game I played where someone had upwelling. After a turn cycle or two everyone just has 30+ mana and the game was absolutely wild.
Oh man, this pack is a banger! I never played Scourge proper, but I have played with almost all of these cards in other commander decks over the years. As Graham realized with the Temporal Fissure, it really makes it pretty clear that the set wants you to get some cheap things to fire off a storm payoff, or some big things that you can upwell your mana into, trigger your dragon scales, draw with your rush of knowledge, etc. Mechanically, I feel like I completely understand this set from looking at these cards, and that is a great as-fan.
Misguided Rage is also the third card of an Onslaught block spanning cycle that had flavour text depicting something bad happening to a goblin named Furt. The other two cards were:
Nosy Goblin in Onslaught - To his surprise, Furt discovered that the strange creatures were not at all like bugs.
Goblin Lookout in Legions - “Throw rocks at ‘em! Throw spears at 'em! Throw Furt at 'em!”
And then Misguided Rage in Scourge - Only when the anger passed did Varv realize he had burned down his home, destroyed his weapons, and killed his friend Furt.
I'd have to wager that they'll eventually make a legendary Furt card.
Commander has brain-poisoned people so bad that they see a funny name pop up in flavor text three times, including one that canonically states that they're dead, and they go "well they're OBLIGATED to make a legendary creature for this character that has had three flavor text, none of which is anything the character has said, they HAVE TO do it". There's not even anything to draw from. Furt wouldn't _do_ anything because he's just a goblin. There are so many better goblin commanders and yet nope, it's a named character, they've GOTTA make a card for them now.
C'mon, man. I also dislike Commander affecting card design but there's always been an old flavor text to new card pipeline. Any named character would have to be legendary and supplemental sets feature canonically dead characters all the time.
@@StarkMaximum Chill. They didn't say they are obligated, just that they think it's likely, considering the frequency with which they turn dead characters and character from flavor text into cards. It's not "brain-poisoning" to expect something based on numerous examples over the last several years. It's so bizarre that something as innocuous as "this named character that showed up a few times might get a card" would elicit an angry reaction.
so glad scourge yager could make an appearance
Scattershot is played in some pauperdecks because Grapeshot is banned. Its JUST a much worse grapeshot but manages to find some sideboard spots in certain decks regardless.
Also, if you're going ALL-IN on Storm, this might help fill out your ninety-nine and/or provide some redundancy.
You can draw 10 cards with Rush of Knowledge in a Reaper King commander deck because its mana value is technically 10 even though can pay WUBURG to cast it.
Bless Commander players for finding the “busted” in every “old and busted”.
I assume Death's-Head Buzzard came up in Magic Battlegrounds, which was a cool fighting game-like version of Magic. I remember spending untold amounts of time with it even if I couldn't actually play any people, the AI and all the various decks you could build was more than enough for me.
The Onslaught block had just wrapped up when I first got into Magic, so a lotta nostalgia here. Go goblins!
OLS still my favorite draft format in all of Magic. :D
"Did draft exist at this point?"
Graham sees a set from 2004 and acts like it's from the 1920s.
Big fan of the Dragon aura cycle. Put 'em on something small early game, let them die, then when you play your big threat late game you get to stack a bunch of buffs on them for free.
The art from Dragon Fangs remains one of my favs to this day xD
When I was first getting into the game had Dragon’s Wings and didn’t know it was a cycle for years later.
They've seen a small resurgence with Eriette from WoE (I've certainly got Scales and the black one in mine) as they're recurrent auras that can go on your opponent's stuff for free.
I don't know the best way to use Long-Term Plans but it's good in Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge where you put a card that you want to cast with Jeleva third from the top, then exile it with her and cast it for free when she attacks.
Long-Term Plans is playable in Commander, where being restricted on colours often means that you don't have access to better tutors that can tutor for any card, and the "you need to draw three cards" stipulation isn't that big of a deal when you're in blue anyway
Vigilance? Keyworded first in Champions of Kamigawa, which was the fall set for 2004. This being the final set where the original frame was still the only one in a standard legal set came out in spring of 2023.
Notably on the card "Vigilance"
Long term plans isn't the best tutor but it is 3 mana which is whatever, it's instant speed, and it can get Anything in Blue. So you only wait 2 turns or if you draw more get it immediately. Again blue instant speed anything. So it is terrible if you compare it to black but when compared to other color tutors it seems better.
And there is a non-0 chances that you use it for a Mystic Sanctuary if you are too screwed
Mr Bungle reference got me to laugh. Thanks to Kathleen for me even knowing who they are.
Ok but the art on Death's-Head Buzzard goes SO hard.
Yessssss, I have so many fond memories of Scourge! I got into magic during Onslaught, so this episode was particularly nostalgic. Thank you!!!
Rush of Knowledge sees some Pauper play, usually in the Gurmag Angler (or similar) decks. 5-mana draw 7 is very good.
Also, that Aven Liberator is very scary, unmorphing for 4 and being able to eat any morph is terrifying
Just to be clear, are you referring to it being a 2/3 or the protection effect in regards to it eating Morphs, because if it's the later, Morphs are colorless.
@@Mordalon the protection doesn’t even matter, morphs are 2/2s which lose to 2/3s in combat.
At last, all the Long Term Plans enthusiasts are gathered here. also my favorite way of using it is with last room of The Undercity
This was a fun watch to see what you pulled. I was surprised at how few of the cards I recognized, but the Dragon Scales and Krosan Warchief were exciting (to me).
HOW can you call me _Consumptive Goo_ and then expect me to see you clearly through the tears of laughter in my eyes?!
Ooooh this was the set that was coming out next when I was first learning to play Magic.
Scourge block was my first set back in my school years, good times picking up a pack of it most afternoons on the way home with my pocket money.
Yeah Onslaught block!
Long term plans is notable for two reasons.
Its an unrestricted tutor that allows busted creatures, enchantments, and artifacts to be tutored by a blue deck. This allows you to tutor cards that take your deck to the stratosphere and usually find a home when the commander can help you draw to it. Azami wizards decks or the Zndrsplt and Okaun. A two mana tutor that takes extra leg work can be worth it when cards like Krark’s thumb bust the deck wide open.
On the other side there are commanders that care about the top of your library and long term plans gives you a way to cheat that. The easiest example is Narset, Enlightened Master which casts the top 4 cards of your library for free if they are noncreatures.
Long Term Plans is definitely not the most busted cards it’s just held some value from being potent in a handful of reasonably popular commanders. If it ever gets reprinted outside of something like the coin flip Secret Lair commander deck then it’s price will probably drop because it’s home is niche.
You were very much supposed to draft this set, as part of the block, and that's where something like Scattershot came into play: Limited Storm couldn't guarantee they'd have the kill package and might need to just storm off to clear the ground and start swinging in.
As for Long-Term Plans it has a lot of different uses but #1 with a bullet in the Current Year is that Commander is a thing, color identity is a thing, and blue doesn't get a ton of other tutors. :V
My first serious foray into Magic was the Onslaught/Legion/Scourge block, so that was a big blast from the past. Thank you!
I run Long Term Plans in my Siani/Akroma flyers deck. I cast it before combat, swing in with at least two flyers, and now it's on the top of my deck. With cards like Bident of Thassa and Reconnaissance Mission, I can often draw the card I tutored for that turn.
"Consumptive goo."
I've never felt so seen.
I certainly didn't have "unexpected Mr. Bungle reference" on my agenda for the day.
"Death loves Mr. Bungle." Alright... that's the leader in 2024 best things said. Well done Graham. HAHA
Deaths head Buzzard. Famous for its presence in MTG Battlegrounds.
So much nostalgia
Cast approach of the second sun. Then cast long term plans to shorten the clock for the second approach
Delightful as always!
One of my all time favorite sets
4:45, I still can't believe Death's Head Buzzard hasn't been errata'd yet!
It doesn't even have a bird's skull FFS!
Minds Desire Storm was one of the strongest and most satisfying deck to play of my youth, remember just like yesterday. But it could make you lose some friend to quit rage
Long term plans seems like it would be good with effects that look at cards from the top of your library. Like 6 mana Narset - you could tutor some big noncreature spell and play it for free, or Winota, you could fetch a human you want before attacking.
Long term plans can find any card type where as most blue tutors are limited to one instant/sorcery. Blue also has cards like Brainstorm and Ponder to get the card immediately. Rush of Knowledge is great with Affinity creatures among others. Upwelling is decent but being symmetrical does hurt it. It basically makes all of your mana sources storage lands. You get to make a bunch of mana over two or three turns than cast an X Spell.
Also of note Scourge was final set of Onslaught block. Although it was not intended to drafted by itself it was supposed to drafted with both Onslaught(first set and biggest set) and legions(middle set and also small set)
Scourge was when I started playing magic and I still have my Dragon Tyrant from back in the day haha
Rush of Knowledge is in combo decks in Pauper where you play Delve creatures to draw 7 or 8 cards.
Ouh this is from back when I started. That whole block was great fun for a beginner it had tribal, big cmc and dragons. All a Timmy could want.
Dragon Scales was part of a cycle. The red one was great in reanimator and oath decks to give haste to your finisher for free. Vigilance wasn't a keyword until Champions of Kamigawa.
There was no focus on colours really just tribal but the Aven Liberator is a solid combat trick and there were plenty of morphs to bluff with.
There was no indestructible until Darksteel (2 sets after this one) so Lingering Death is just slow removal that can kill black and artifact creatures.
Rush of Knowledge was quite good actually since the format can be slow (especially if it's 3xScourge) and there is Scornefull Egotist in the set to cheat a high CMC.
Long Term Plans is alright if you can combine it with some cantrips in constructed.
All the chieftains wore a necklace. Beasts was probably the weakest tribe when it came to synergy.
The format would have been Onslaught+Legions+Scourge except for maybe release week where it would have 3x Scourge.
My pick is probably Rush of Knowledge if it's 3xScourge and otherwise maybe Aven Liberator but it would depend heavily on what was in the first 2 packs.
Oh, that Upwelling looks really nice in my King Kenny group hug deck
Rush of knowledge was fun to play with scornful egotist. Also fun in Reaper King decks.
Temporal Fissure was busted in Pauper, so much so that it got banned.
I believe Gilded Light was a good card in Block and Standard, for exactly the reasons you said. Plus, it had good synergy with Astral Slide and Lightning Rift.
I have vague memories of there being a completive Upwelling deck at some point in some format, but I could be completely making that up.
Hmm... Scourge is old enough to drink this year.
Long term plans is one of the best tutors in mono blue to get non instant sorcery or artifact
I think I remember Wheeler saying something like when you're playing a combo deck in Highlander you put in all the good tutors, then you put the okay tutors and you put in the bad tutors. That might be why Long-Term Plans is nearly 2 dollars?
If you have a "top of the deck matters" it's kind of useful. With things like scry or surveil it's easy to reach at the third card. Brainstorm, Top... plus it's an Instant
Long-Term Plans is nice in Narset, Enlightened Master
Thanks for this.
Dragon scales could be cool.
1:25 I'd argue that it *is* either here or there re: card quality, since if we don't make noise about it here (in the fanbase) they're not gonna do anything about it there (at WotC.)
That said, I have neither purchased MTG cards nor played a paper game in quite some time, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt--mostly I'm just here for the engagement :)
And here I am filming and uploading every day like a schmuck.
I used to play Rush of Knowledge in my Affinity deck with Mycosynth Golem to draw 11.
Play Long Term plans after Approach of the Second Sun to accelerate it maybe? Scourge was my first set and I have so much nostalgia for it. Daru Warchief made me want to go into building a mono white soldier deck early on!
You'd draft it with a pack of Onslaught and a pack of Legion so it would always be pack 3 (at least how we did it)Depending on what you had drafted before there are a couple of "okay for the time" cards
Wow, I'm familiar with basically every card from this pack despite never playing it. All of these cards are ones I've seen played
I had a deck back in the Scourge days with Rush of Knowledge and Scornful Egotist, the 8 mana 1/1 with morph 1. Draw 4 for 5 is alright, but try drawing 8,
Alas, no Scornful Egotist. I wish Graham had opened one and none of the mana-value-matters cards just so he could be completely flummoxed by an eight-mana 1/1.
Still, fond memories of this set. The very last one with the original frame. (Vigilance was more than a year away in Champions of Kamigawa.)
I used to run Misguided rage in my Land Destruction deck as a way of hitting non lands.
Oh hey, a set I actually remember!
I think target player sacrifices a permanent might still be an effect red gets, certainly it was getting it at common in a premier set in 2020 (Earth-Cult Elemental). It's basically a worse stone rain that the opponent can buy out of like a punisher effect.
The "Oh everything is old-bordered" comment is funny because this is the last old-border set iirc
I ran Sprouting Vines in an RG Omnath commander deck... even getting 2 or 3 lands off it was mad value.
You laugh at Long Term Plans, but I run it. Blue isn't great at tutoring for enchantments :)
Scourge was designed to draft but not alone. Onslaught block was tribal so the beast lord was good but you'd know if you wanted it. Utility tappers like sparksmith or timberwatch elf were scary so bad removal to kill them was playable.
Overall scourge was one of those third sets that felt a bit forced and gave blocks a weak image. I still miss blocks though.
Kindred not tribal. Dont want WoKc knocking on your door with pinkertons
@PopoTCG Ha, I'm from scourge times I get to be the grumpy old guy.
All I remember was Astral Slide
@@PopoTCG What does the Tribal change have to do with that? you are conflating two unrelated things.
@@estebanrodriguez5409 that and rift were good when you could get them just harder to get.
Temporal Fissure: Doesn't say nonland permanent 👀👀
"Was this before draft?" No, draft has been a format since Mirage in 1996.
Rush of Knowledge was a bomb back in the day, despite how it looks now lol
Long term plans is playable when you have sensei's divining top in play, but that says more about top :))
Oh man. I remember scourge in high school
i was born the same year scourge came out :)
I just got a Upwelling at a antique mall for a dollar. So that checks out.
red kinda still gets "target player sacrifices a permanent" on occasion. most recently in AFR with earth-cult elemental.
I'm here to e n g a g e with the Scourge on Magic players that was this set.
so long term plans can be good in very spefic scenarios say for example your commander is the orginal narset from khans of tarkir
I didn't want to be reminded that scourge is old enough to drink 😅
I know that I'm biased because it was my first set, but man do I love me some Scourge
All Warchiefs in the set wear a necklace.
What a banger of a pack
So many commander playables SAWLM were right!
3rd from the top also lets you grab the card with Brainstorm on the same turn.
When a card is a "bad" tutor but still is played, it's probably because of high-power singleton formats.
It's the only real get anything tutor for blue in edh.
I had a casual Golem typal deck that can win on turn 3 thanks to Rush of Knowledge
1:
Artifact land
Ornithopter Paradise mantle, Equip mantle
2
Artifact land
Pentad Prism
3
Artifact land, Mycosynth Golem, Composite golem (cost 0 thanks to affinity), Sac for WUBRG, Rush of knowledge, Draw 11
Composite Golem for 0
Composite golem for 0
Mycosynth golem for 0
Bosh for 0
Sacrifice Composite golems for WUBRG WUBRG
Activate Bosh Sacing Mycosynth golem to deal 11 to your face, Activate Bosh to Fling Mycosynth golem at your face for another 11
So ... don't spend 2 hours making a pauper brew around sprouting Vine storm, only to re-read it says "into your hand" ... mid game.
Oops.
Scatter shot could work, if you link a creature to a player, but in that case probably belongs in *That Cube* .
Vilgiance was not key worded until 2004’s Kamgiwa block.
Trust me I was there for it. (I’m Old)
Long term plans probably good with miracle cards or second sun maybe
Dragon scales is a great card, and the should bring it back 😊
a pack from 2003 you say? when that came out, Magic as a whole was about 10 years old, and now that pack is slightly over 20. time is nonsense.
That rage card is a misprint. Only the top layer is creased but not the back of the card. I’d want it please lol
none of them knew! none of them knew!
I hope my cursed pack of dominaria didn’t get lost in the move