Feeling the weight, and having it impact lap time are two very different things, in my opinion. I can certainly notice the weight difference between say a 16.5g Hummingbird and a 20g HDZ AIO5 Mob6 build. On a super tight/technical track like RaceGOW, the weight also impacted lap time. Really open layout where I am not constantly fighting my own momentum, the lap time was impacted significantly less. Its about like open class 5" racing when flying a 1300mah pack vs a 1550mah. On a GQ? It can matter. On a track like Champs/WC or something designed for spec? The weight matters noticeably less.
The 17 gram race whoop i got from you guys is the best flying whoop i own. I've tried to make an exact replica, same weight, and copy the settings over. The throttle is just so jumpy on mine. I swear you guys spilled some magic onto that one. Since I can't replicate it and can't buy it anymore, it's become my all time favorite drone and is extremely special to me.
Great video. I think a little more weight for more durability is a good trade off. It sucks during a race if you are always breaking your frame, camera mount or ripping off an antenna
Power to Weight ratio is very important in my opinion. So when I first started whoops I had a 20 grams drone with 19000kv and it would hit the ground in dives and spirals. It also took more time to do a over the top spiral. When I got my first race whoop from Five33 at 17.2 grams with 27000kv it felt way better you could keep from hitting the floor but at times it was a bit much to control. So it forced me to put a slight throttle cap and better my skills. Now after doing a crap load of research the new Five33 race whoop at 15.9 grams AND the HDZero at 18.8 grams with 27000kv and 10+ more grams of thrust. It starts to feel like a way different drone to me.
Looking forward to all the experiments. I noticed the difference going from my light weight analog whoop to a HDZero whoop. Changing directions and cornering is where the difference was, you could feel the heavier whoop carry its weight in the corners. Its not huge, and can be adjusted to with some time. It really depends on the pilot. Any top pilot will take any small percentage performance increase to give them an edge. But ultimately pilot skill and practice matters more than the specifics of your drone. In most cases, things like weight, or latency can be compensated for by a skilled pilot so the difference will be small in most cases.
Very interesting series!!! I'm curious how much weight affects the drones ability to change directions, or how much farther does a heavier whoop drift when going from full throttle to a 180 degree turn, if hat makes sense :) Also the big question does weight affect battery drain :) keep it up! One last one How much can you shave off a frame before the frame is too unstable
I fly a slightly modified BetaFPV Air 65 Race that is just under 17 grams for RaceGOW. I actually fly better with my 300 mAh than my 260 mAh packs. 1.28 grams difference, but I definitely feel the weight in positive way.
Are we talking 65mm whoops or also 75mm? I think props make the biggest difference. Upgrade the 31mm props to the new gemfan 35mmS props, then it feels so different and better. So much more powerful. Weight is only 1g more on the meteor65 pro frame. Not sure if the 65pro 35mm props are allowed in races
don't get me wrong i like my ultra light builds they do feel nice... but i mainly prefer my 18 gram whoops because i fly a concrete basement on the daily and i need max durability. in a race i rather be a little slower and know my whoop will finish over having a small mistake and having equipment failure. i also believe that's just also my flying style, i don't like floaty quads. 18g with 27K motors is my sweet spot for power and battery life.
For me personally i dont think theres a huge difference in my analog lite build and my hdzero aio whoop.i think for me the trade off of being a little heavier but being able to see better is by far worth it. i crash less becuse i can see clearly and i dont feel like im that much slower. Also not a top tier whoop pilot and i cant push my lite whoop to its full potential yet.
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Feeling the weight, and having it impact lap time are two very different things, in my opinion. I can certainly notice the weight difference between say a 16.5g Hummingbird and a 20g HDZ AIO5 Mob6 build. On a super tight/technical track like RaceGOW, the weight also impacted lap time. Really open layout where I am not constantly fighting my own momentum, the lap time was impacted significantly less. Its about like open class 5" racing when flying a 1300mah pack vs a 1550mah. On a GQ? It can matter. On a track like Champs/WC or something designed for spec? The weight matters noticeably less.
The 17 gram race whoop i got from you guys is the best flying whoop i own. I've tried to make an exact replica, same weight, and copy the settings over. The throttle is just so jumpy on mine. I swear you guys spilled some magic onto that one. Since I can't replicate it and can't buy it anymore, it's become my all time favorite drone and is extremely special to me.
Great video. I think a little more weight for more durability is a good trade off. It sucks during a race if you are always breaking your frame, camera mount or ripping off an antenna
Power to Weight ratio is very important in my opinion. So when I first started whoops I had a 20 grams drone with 19000kv and it would hit the ground in dives and spirals. It also took more time to do a over the top spiral. When I got my first race whoop from Five33 at 17.2 grams with 27000kv it felt way better you could keep from hitting the floor but at times it was a bit much to control. So it forced me to put a slight throttle cap and better my skills. Now after doing a crap load of research the new Five33 race whoop at 15.9 grams AND the HDZero at 18.8 grams with 27000kv and 10+ more grams of thrust. It starts to feel like a way different drone to me.
Looking forward to all the experiments. I noticed the difference going from my light weight analog whoop to a HDZero whoop. Changing directions and cornering is where the difference was, you could feel the heavier whoop carry its weight in the corners. Its not huge, and can be adjusted to with some time.
It really depends on the pilot. Any top pilot will take any small percentage performance increase to give them an edge. But ultimately pilot skill and practice matters more than the specifics of your drone. In most cases, things like weight, or latency can be compensated for by a skilled pilot so the difference will be small in most cases.
Very interesting series!!! I'm curious how much weight affects the drones ability to change directions, or how much farther does a heavier whoop drift when going from full throttle to a 180 degree turn, if hat makes sense :) Also the big question does weight affect battery drain :) keep it up! One last one How much can you shave off a frame before the frame is too unstable
Yess whoop racing is amazing!!
Get it to where it feels comfortable to you
I fly a slightly modified BetaFPV Air 65 Race that is just under 17 grams for RaceGOW. I actually fly better with my 300 mAh than my 260 mAh packs. 1.28 grams difference, but I definitely feel the weight in positive way.
YES! Tinywhoop Videos! Thanks for the awesome content Evan!
Are we talking 65mm whoops or also 75mm?
I think props make the biggest difference. Upgrade the 31mm props to the new gemfan 35mmS props, then it feels so different and better. So much more powerful. Weight is only 1g more on the meteor65 pro frame.
Not sure if the 65pro 35mm props are allowed in races
don't get me wrong i like my ultra light builds they do feel nice... but i mainly prefer my 18 gram whoops because i fly a concrete basement on the daily and i need max durability. in a race i rather be a little slower and know my whoop will finish over having a small mistake and having equipment failure. i also believe that's just also my flying style, i don't like floaty quads. 18g with 27K motors is my sweet spot for power and battery life.
For me personally i dont think theres a huge difference in my analog lite build and my hdzero aio whoop.i think for me the trade off of being a little heavier but being able to see better is by far worth it. i crash less becuse i can see clearly and i dont feel like im that much slower. Also not a top tier whoop pilot and i cant push my lite whoop to its full potential yet.
I completely agree, I actually just had a conversation about this very topic. It’s such an important discussion to have. 🩸