Can a Full Suspension Mountain bike be your daily rider or commuter?! My thoughts...
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You know what I like about your videos? You’re a guy with a bike. No fancy talk. No overdone tech talk. Well done.
Thank you I really appreciate it!
I like commuting on my full suspension. Efficiency is low but comfort is to the max. Slap a leisure gel seat on there and embrace the cruise.
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Used to ride a hard tail on my teens for fun. Then got a full suspension MTB last year, used it everyday, I never complained about it, it is so comfortable, I never wanted to ride a hardtail or road bike anymore. The comfort of long travel full suspension bike is way off the chart for a daily commuter on bumpy UK roads. I tried locking the suspension, I feel every tiny bumps on the road. I can't last 3 minutes with the suspensions locked. People also say that unlocked rear suspension eats power and tire your faster. But I honestly don't feel the difference from locked or unlocked. The only thing I can complain about are the knobby tires with its really high rolling resistance.
I commute with an MTB on a daily basis, I also used to think my bike was slowing me down when going downhill since you don't have the gear range nor the aero position. Then it became pointless since speeding downhill caused me to crash my bike, I started being more careful and slow after that
I use to just have a full squish but last year I added a gravel bike. The gravel bike just makes it a lot easier if you want to travel longer distance on pavement or fire roads plus you can still take it green and blue trails. Just remenber the golden rule for the number of bikes to own N+1.
I bought a pedal assist ebike full suspension (ive always wanted one) im 46 and overweight, i ride 8km flat out, or as long as i can stand the burn lol, i absolutely love my full suspension ebike, i ride during the weekend as well, most of my riding is through walking trails, i know a lot of people discount the ebikes, but for me, i can ride EVERYDAY and the jarring on my body is less and the enjoyment is more! I find im more confident and more adventurous with this bike, and my ineer competitiveness makes me push myself harder im now just using the motor on the 1st setting. You definitely canbise a full suspension mountain bike as a daily. I find in some cases im just as quick as a dude on a road bike, the fact that i can bomb down a grass bank or smash through some rough terrain makes it that way(obviously on tarmac the roadbikes faster) but not near as fun as the bike i purchased
Thanks for this video go out grind hard!
There's an old saying: It's easier to make a MTB into a road bike, than a road bike into a MTB.
Some faster rolling XC tires would make it better for commuting without giving up all your off-road abilities. Another tip is when you max out your gears going down hill, just drop your saddle and tuck down to make yourself more aerodynamic. You'll pass people who are trying to pedal down the hill and save a ton of energy.
What tires? I was looking at the Maxxis Aspen for this very purpose
@@TheJofrica try continental race kings TLR protection (not the racesports) they are surprisingly good for trails too, they dont tear for an XC tire but grip in wet berms is poor. front while slide out. their rolling resistance is better than that of cheap bontrager, vittoria and continental road tires. I ride race kings with roadies and during some downhill coasting you are faster than roadies if the road surface is bumpy but if its smooth gp5000 and vittoria corsa speeds will start pulling away significantly on a downhill coast. Hope it helps :)
If your on a tight budget like me, its good to have a full suspension mtb, Mine is a Trek Top Fuel 8 Full Suspension and i use it from commuting, road bike and trails. 👍👍👍
As everyday rider I use two Specialized stumpJumper (2022 Alloy and 2019 Expert) only in the town and surroundings. I simply have replaced the original chainring (32T) with a bigger one (36T). This puts an end to that annoyance of pedalling a lot incessantly and also offers more speed. Any vehicle needs suspension and stability but I don't care what type of bike the people use as they use at their own risk.
I commuted on a hardtail, a carbon road bike, and a full sus. The full suspension is more work, but way more fun, able to jump curbs, take an unpaved trail shortcut. I don't have to ride commute, its fun though. So I don't care if it takes an extra 15 minutes or so.
I have a Yt Jeffsy 140mm 29trail bike, it’s my main bike. For urban riding I pump up tires to 35, put flip chip in high position, and lock out both shocks. Try shorter cranks, bigger tires or thinner pedals for pedal strikes.👊
I ride in a city and have been trying to work out why we don’t get full suspension options easily. Sure, paved roads are smooth - but footpaths, driveways and bike-path-warning-strips are not. I’m not doing Tour de France, so speed is not a concern. Every other reason I’ve been given is ‘weight’ and ‘cost’. Thanks for making this video - it’s good to see it from your perspective.
I like your voice. I've ridden my hard tail before and it's my slowest bike due to the gear ratio limitation. I also swap the tires to more tarmac friendly like Schwalbe Marathons because the off road ones especially with the knobby treads will get worn really fast on tarmac.
I road hartails then got a full suspension and haven't looked back. I feel I can use it for everything. I commute to work daily on it 10.8 kms each day, great day starter and unwind at the end of the day.
The bike looks pretty awesome
I can actually answer that question for you I ride my full suspension everyday most times it's usually back and forth to doctors appointments or whatever else I happen to be doing I'm not sure if you know but I'm a dialysis patient of 19 years and I'm still a mountain biker so I find it useful since I live in the city to use my mountain bike as a commuter as well I know sounds a little strange but I have quite a few videos where I've written to doctor's appointments and I've written to my dialysis center a couple of times on my full suspension it's possible with a little preparation and a game plan
you sir, you are a true badass Mountain Bicycle Rider👏😎
I ride my Trek Rail all over town and its a blast because the rough terrain of most cityscapes are brutal, its an urban assassin in the right hands of an mx racer of course.
I ride a hardtail but I think riding poorly maintained streets and downhill would be even better on a fs. Love the look of fs bikes as well. Cheers for the video.
Try a suspension seatpost... It made my hard tail much more tolerable on the butt
I just purchased the SPECIALIZED EPIC 2020 EXPERT HT CARBON FIBER Size Large in Matte Black and have ridden it for 2 months on a daily basis. Was using the SPECIALIZED PITCH 27.5 as my daily rider and since I got my EPIC, I no longer ride the PITCH😁😂🤣. You bike can definitely be used as a daily rider👏😎 Great Video
i ride the 2022 status 140, and it goes everywhere. i do xc races and enduros on it. i ride my local trails and ride around town going off stairs and drops.
I used to have a Niner jet (130mm front and 120mm rear) and it was my everything bike: road, xc, trail, and park. I found that as long as you pumped up the tires (I had a minion dhf and dhrII) to around 50-60 psi i could even keep on on 20mph avg road rides. As long as there isnt too much pedal bob, full sus bikes can be fine commuters.
Sick video. I just want to give my side of the talk. I ride a full sus (160/150) every day as a commuter bike. It was pretty difficult at first as I live in a part of town with lots of very steep hills. But after a while, it has gotten easier. I also have a BMX bike and a cheap hardtail.
I've a deposit down on a Roscoe 7, can't wait to get back in the saddle, supplier had an xl in stock but Giant Fathoms weren't going to be in until August earliest and shortages in my other shortlist bikes too so I just went for it, was happy with my 8 so can't go wrong with the 7
I have purchased a Trek Marlin 6 in blue and I was never disappointed with everything I throw at it. The suspension is locked at all times because all the energy I put into biking is pretty much wasted in my perspective, anyway I was very impressed how the Trek Marlin 6 handles everything.
Interesting video! For me, it comes down to tires...I'd hate to prematurely wear down my trail bike by riding on pavement. When you add in gearing , weight, and the aerodynamics of a road/gravel bike it's easy to justify (assuming you can afford it). I'm fortunate to own two bikes that I feel cover most riding conditions: (1) Nukeproof Scout 290 Comp for trails, jumps and more demanding off-road (2) Vitus Substance V 2 "adventure" bike...basically a burly road bike that's great for road, gravel and even light trials. Still...would love a full suspension though lol Enjoy!
I've been asking myself that same question.
Great topic for a video, given the economy now. I road/sidewalk bike with a FS MTB and definitely more comfortable, especially for the older crowed who don't trail bike as much anymore.
Thinking of picking up a Jamis Portal A2 or Jamis Hardline A2 this week.
I have an older 2012 Jamis Allegro X Comp that just really isn't comfortable to ride anymore so I wanted something where I could hit a trail one weekend but also have a bike ride day with my wife and our young son the next weekend. You have really helped me make up my mind because I don't have room for 2 bikes. I really appreciate you and this video, my brotha. Just dropped a like and subscribed.
your bike looks sweet bro! just got myself a scott spark fs, upgrade from HT, using the FS as daily rider now to get use to it and it feels awesome around my area here in sweden mate! much fun! 😁
I’m still riding my 2019 Marlin 7 (3x9) and I think it’s a pretty good daily rider with a better gear range than even the newer Marlin 7’s. I mostly ride on gravel with it anyway. A full suspension is WAY out of my price range and beyond my abilities as a rider.
By the way, my wife is upgrading from a Trek FX2 (hybrid) to a Specialized Diverge base E5 (gravel bike) and I’m kind of envious. She’s going to pass me by soon.
Speaking of availability, she wanted to get the Diverge Base Carbon but she was told they wouldn’t be able to get a new one in her size until 2023. It’s crazy.
I've recently had the same thoughts. I checked out a few local bike shops in my area and it seems that there are gravel bikes that are readily available. I thought about getting a gravel bike for doing long distance rides on the road and perhaps some dirt trails on detours. I think that you can definitely use a full sus mtb for commuting. However, I do notice that it feeling heavier on windy days especially if youre pedaling into a headwind. Overall, if I ever had to park my bike somewhere, I don't know how I'd feel about locking up an expensive bike somewhere. I'd want something not too expensive to use as a workhorse.
Gravel bike might be the ultimate commuter these days
This is what I'm looking for something that's nice and will still be able to use from A to B I used to do DH so a nice enduro or trail is what I want but I won't be doing near as much racing now but still like a nice bike! Shimano just came out with that 12 speed cassette that might be useful just for this purpose
I have a 2020 Giant Yukon and I ride the thing on trials and even more on streets until I can get a road bike. I have not complaints riding it on pavement. It has it difficulties at times but the bike is solid on pavement.
Most riders in the Philippines opt for MTB for daily commuters because the roads are pretty cracked and bumpy out there
I used to a couple of hours 2days a week. Was comfortable. But was longer commuting especially up hills.
Dude! I was just watching your videos earlier this morning! Hell yeah matty 👉👉
Thinking about buying a fsmtb, i have a very nice road bike but i just want to change my commute up as well as get out in the woods. I appreciate your content man👍
Ive just got a hardtail mtb for mtbing. But ive got a road bike/gravel bike for riding around and ive also got an electric road bike that I bought when I lived in hilly Sydney.
Got a full sus for commuting but its an e bike so have a nice amount of power. Its the specialized turbo levo with a 90nm 565 watt motor
I was thinking that suspension would help with making bumpy roads more comfortable but also pose a problem for gaining speed and climbing
Great video, definitely gonna watch more
And I love to commute with a bike and I'm currently looking for a new one and undecided about a full sus or hard tail.
Thank you! If you love to commute, I’d go with a hardtail. Trek Roscoe 7 would be a great option to check out
@@MattyActive I couldn't make this up my self, I recognise this bike from a month ago when I was browsing in a bicycle shop nearby. Thanks for the suggestion
I was thinking about this too but with an ebike suspension. Now that would be fine I think.
Riding a bike seems simple in Canada. Here in the UK the roads are so small.
I've been looking at getting a bike lately, more specifically a full suspension one. I'll most likely never take it to a trail and will honestly just use it for fun, biking around nearby, to the stores and whatnot. I've been told now a thousand times that though it looks cool, it's not a good idea because of a million reasons and.. yes.. for efficiency it might not be good but, if the cool looks of the bike is what makes me wanna take it out because.. well it's cool!!! Then.. I'd say that's more efficient than having a bike I don't like and end up never using:P
My daily rider has always been a Raliegh M80 mt bike. On average about 10 miles +/- It works well enough.
Now having said that I am hard on things. Possibly in the future I will pick up a second bike. Or put gravel
tires on her. Time will tell.
Even on my Roscoe, I lock out the front for local road rides. So, can you? Sure. Are there better bikes for commuting? yup. Do you need two bikes? Not really, but it is nice! 😂.
You've got a great bike with quality components on it, so it's going to work well no matter where you ride it! The rear suspension is going to make it harder to wheelie because it will flex, and essentially move the rear wheel around which shifts the balance point. I'm not familiar with the geometry with that bike, but the longer the bike is from seat post back also makes a difference. Guys do wheelie on their mountain bikes all the time though, so I'm sure you'll figure it out. Do you have a shock pump, or are you sure the shop set your shock pressures correctly for you? I bought a shock pump and found my fork was set at about 55 pounds and with my weight it should have been 107, so I had too much sag on my fork. I doubt you're having a similar problem as you're not a heavy guy (I'm 200 lbs), but you can check the spec of your front and rear suspension online if you don't have a manual that came with it, and test the amount of sag in your suspension. It's easy to do, just push down the o-ring to the bottom of the shaft and gently sit on the bike, then get off without bouncing it. Measure the distance the o-ring moved and that gives you the sag for the suspension. If it's too low that will contribute to the pedal strikes. Increasing and decreasing the air pressure in the shocks will adjust that.
If you really want a hardtail, I love my Fathom 2, it's $1,300 and really well spec'd for the price. It's low and long and has big tires, I like how it looks. You can get either 27.5 or 29 inch wheels, mine's a 29er. 1x12 Deore drivetrain, which is rare at this price point. It will remind you a lot of the Roscoe, just better geometry and drivetrain, through axles, a bit lighter aluminum alloy frame, etc. Good bike. But I don't think you really need it, seems like you mostly ride trails and when you go on the streets you like to jump curbs and stairs and stuff like that, which your current bike will make fun. If you REALLY want another bike, just get a used one online and trash it around. It doesn't need to have the finest of everything to ride on the street. Hell, rim brakes are fine on the street. Used older bikes are cheap and plentiful. Try a road bike, why not? Whatever you do, do it before you have kids, trust me...:)
Please do a wheelie tutorial on a mountain bike! I’d like to learn!
Idk how long your cranks are on that bike but u could put shorter ones like 165mm cranks
Great review of a really FAQ. I recently sold my Fuel EX 5, to go back to my Marlin 7.
I just like the street rides too much. Like 10 mile rides, if I was doing 15-20 I would get a road bike. But the Marlin 7-8 does a decent job at both MTB and commuting. So if I ever want to hit some blue/green trails I still can.
The fuel Ex 5 could hit the streets, just a lot more effort. But you won't notice if you don't have another bike to pick up.
Yo that's interesting, full suspension back to a hardtail. How come? What did the full suspension lack that the hardtail did better for your road rides?
@@ARGnasher Just the need to take more road rides more often. I just need to check Facebook marketplace and get a cheap used full suspension because I do miss the harder to ride trails.
Hi, I own a 2019 specialized Stumpjumper ST and I ride it on the road with the knobby tires. Thankfully the 29er makes it roll pretty well and I swapped the 30T for a 32T oval chainring so you can keep pedaling when you're going downhill.
An everyday rider? LOL Man, you should have kept that Marlin. Just a little upgrades and you got a great bike for everyday. To my Marlin I putted a lightweight rigid fork, Deore XT brakes&disks, sealed bearing hubs (so I can fit any transmission later) and fast rolling TR maxxis XC tires. As soon as I can I change the transmission for a 1-12, so is gonna be even lighter, perfect for everyday. The bike is a wheelie machine now LOL. If the bike is cheap, why to sell it.
full sus can commute just fine, just lock out the rear shock and you're good. Won't be as fast as a road bike, but might be more comfortable. Trail Features recommendation to use XC tires for commuting is a good one. Grippy tires will wear out quickly when ridden on pavement. If you're looking at something for road use and maybe the odd bit of gravel, consider a gravel bike, they are nearly as efficient as a road bike, but no problem on bombed out pavement, or gravel roads.
Touring tyres make a massive difference. I've got 2.2" Schwalbe marathons which roll really well on the road and I can still chase my kid over a dirt bmx course.
The best upgrade you could do to make it more daily rider is a faster rolling harder compound rear tyre. On the trail you would barelly notice a difference.
I don't know if you remember having a dialogue with me my friend a few months ago .. I am the Cop from Baltimore, Maryland who was at a cross roads on buying the 2021 Marlin 6 XXL frame. Well I did buy it back in January '21and I took it home, never rode it directly after buying it .. It stayed in my garage for about a week or so with the new tags still on it .. My co-worker had Marlin 7 and was beating me up about not getting a M7 .. So after deliberation I contacted my bike shop and low and behold they had a new '21 M7 they just received in new and it was for sale .. I contacted them and they let me bring in the M6 on a exchange for the M7 all I had to do was pay the $200.00 difference in cost and tbey sold the M6 while I was still in the store .. So for the extra money I got better upgrades .. It pissed me off that the '22 M8 just dropped a few weeks ago too but it's out of stock and it will be for a while too from what the bike shop told me .. So I just wanted you to know I am on my M7 and loving it and thankful to have a bike .. I Already did upgrades on my grips, pedals and tires .. I went with Maxxis 29 x 2.30 High Roller II on the rear and a 29 x 2.30 Minion DHF on the front .. I will upgrade one day to a full squish .. I have been eyeballing the Feul Ex 7 after watching your video on it .. Take Care .. keep the vids coming .. sorry for my long post too 🤣
My daily bike is trek marlin 7 2021 hardtail and it is great i use it on road and offroad
Got a hardtail for everything
Hey Matty, I'm also in the Colorado area. You should look into making a video about different trails you have rode and how you like them. I only know a few good trails, your insight would be cool.
That’s a great idea. I’ll definitely work on that!
Love your channel subbed on see one of ur vids there cool because there simple and interesting
My answer for a long time.
The answer is yes. I only have 1 full sus bike 140mm front & 130mm back.
On the road I would say lock the suspension out then you can put more power to the ground. A Enduro bike for everything isn't so good you recommended a stumpjumper that's would be a better daily bike I need a upgrade from my Rockhopper Comp 1 X. I can use the Rockhopper as my XC bike.
I have the same bike and I use it for everything
If you do decide to get a hardtail. Vitus had a good deal on the nucleus vr. Or you can get a Schwinn axum or something and upgrade it for more content and get it to how I like.
I plan on converting my fully suspension bike to a part road bike so I’ll be on pavement more
Just changing the tyres is probably enough...? I did make the bar clamp adjustable and reduce the bar width a ton too.
You probably should get a different handlebar with more rise to be more efficient. I can’t wait for my 2021 Trek Roscoe 8
See you should have kept the Trek Marlin 5 you had. Great video as always cheers
True!
In Philippines, we use mtb for long rides. When I say long rides, its a multi day 500 - 1000km loop.
Now Im thinking if I will use my full sus for long rides. Haha. Very comfortable while sitting for sure.
Short answer to your question, yes full suspension can be a daily commuter if setup properly.
And what is a proper setup? Would like to hear some suggestions.
I knew he a like it cause I ride mine alot on and off to
Of course it can, just in inflate ur tyres to max psi so its easier to pedal.
I mean you can can commute in whatever you got. Personally i bough a very cheap bike to commute around town, wouldn’t dream about leaving an expensive full squish unattended in town.
Got a roscoe and it does mean work on the trails but also a lot of fun on the streets. Ordered a Fuel Ex but still waiting for it to come in...
When it's in, I plan to ride the Fuel Ex on the trails and switch it up every now and then, and keep the roscoe for easier trails, when I want a bit more challenging ride or for dailies.
Iv a trek marlin 7 for xc and a kona process 153 full suspension for enduro/downhill
A friend of mine has a marlin 5 and it is a lot faster then my 6 and still has good climbing gears
Missing your Roscoe now? Lol I'm keeping my hardtail. I've done 50 mile road rides with the 1x. Hardtails are do it all bikes. When my FS comes it's just an addition to the stable.
Haha just a little bit
@@MattyActiveHahah I miss it for you! My hardtail holds a special place. I can't get rid of it.
The Roscoe is the slowest hardtail there is with 2.8 tires so probably not much.
Why do you want a hardtail? You had a few Trek hardtails. How about an inexpensive road or hybrid bike?
Something to ride around town and do wheelies on but I decided to get a SE fast ripper instead of a hardtail
I’ve ridden my fs mtb 22 miles and it was fine with me. I like to ride but your friend “bob” can get to you at times.
change to 700c tyres. 700 x 50c wheels would be nice.
Hey man if you keep getting pedal strikes have you thought about changing the length of your crank arms? I bet yours are 175mm and if you ride with a 170mm or even 160mm crank arms you wont get that pedal strike
I’m thinking you’re getting pedal strikes because of the mullet setup on your Status.
That definitely makes sense. I never thought about that!
Hey Matty, is it fair to say this bike is easier on paved roads compared to your previous Roscoe 8?
I would say so because the Roscoe had plus size tires and they were super knobby
The road wears the tires quicker so I’m sure it can be done it’s just not very good for the bike.
What abt downhill, i wanna start saving for a new bike and the dh bike I want is the same price for an enduro and i mainly ride street and twisty rigid/bumpy trails so what should i do
im interested in knowing wich one is better basically i live in iraq our roads have enough natural speed bumps but people keep making artificial ones and every time i pass a bump i get triggered can a full sus bike make it so i wont have to slow down without needing to stand on the pedals to avoid the shock
Definately helps! I ride my full sus everywhere and i just ride over speed bumps without thinking about it.
thoughs on using orbea rise (carbon 19kg) as a commuter bike ?
How did you film which camera?
GoPro hero 8
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What tire size 27.5 or 29er
Mullet which is 29” front and 27.5 rear
Ye sure. My 29er full sus trail bike rides better on everything than my hardtail, so much that i dont ride my hardtail anywhere anymore.
For cheaper hardtails checkout ragley