One of the hardest if not THE HARDEST strike to get is the domino or backwards strike. its done by barley missing the head pin to the left or right of the head pin. I've had the left or 1,2,4 & the right 1,3,6 back up, backwards domino strike. I have them on video when I got them a few times. I have NEVER got the domino strike on purpose & I have tried over 100 games to get it on purpose.
I used this info to get the best angle my straight ball can get. bowled 17 games in a little over 2 hrs with a 178 avg. I had 57 frames that I got 9 pin hits & 54 frames with strikes: I was throwing on the first board with a loft just past the first arrow I guess 12 to 13 feet out as my bowl loft. out of 170 frames I took out 9 pins on 57 frames & 54 strike frames so 111 frames 9 or better out of 170 frames. that was on Sunday 4-23-23. I think 14 to 15 loft on the first board would have more strikes over the 9 pins hit.
I have been bowling for 43 years, have a good average, and these are my beliefs. If you want to take out the 10 pin more often getting more strikes, then throw a 16 pound ball. If you aren't going to get a strike then leave the 10 pin. It is the easiest common leave. Everything else is failure, especially the 4 pin. Let's say the optimal entry angle is 5.7 degrees. Then don't get more than that. Throw it too hard and leave the 10 instead of too soft leaving a hard spare.
I like the spiral pattern ball so I can dramatically see the way the ball is rolling as a straight ball = NOT rolling on its side with no board to board roll. I want end over end roll really.
Really it is anyone who can generate 6 degrees of entry angle. Two handers or one handers. But too much entry angle can actually be a disadvantage, especially if the ball is entering high in the pocket. 6 degrees gives you the greatest chance of striking across the entire 4" range of the pocket.
@@USBC Got it! I was assuming that 2 handed bowlers more easily got to that 6 degree mark with the higher rev rate than a straighter 1 handed bowler with lower rev rate. More plainly, does a 1 handed bowler have to work harder than a 2 handed bowler to get the 6 degree entry angle?
@@KMurtheGamer Probably the most common reason people give for using the two-handed style is that it helps generate more rev rate and hook, and one of the reasons you'd want to do that is to achieve more entry angle. But many one-handers are still able to achieve 6 degrees pretty easily.
You asked about 12lb ball carry, and low speed carry, and the answer was so vague that it was almost a useless answer. Can you get any actual answers to those questions? Maybe show the actual data and graphs for those speeds. Also, how do they only test below 14mph when almost every pro is hitting the pins much faster? That’s sort of embarrassing to claim to be testing reality when you aren’t even up to speed with the slow pros. And no video of the tests? What year is this?
It is very exciting to see new data on pin carry!!
great stuff.
One of the hardest if not THE HARDEST strike to get is the domino or backwards strike. its done by barley missing the head pin to the left or right of the head pin. I've had the left or 1,2,4 & the right 1,3,6 back up, backwards domino strike. I have them on video when I got them a few times. I have NEVER got the domino strike on purpose & I have tried over 100 games to get it on purpose.
I used this info to get the best angle my straight ball can get. bowled 17 games in a little over 2 hrs with a 178 avg. I had 57 frames that I got 9 pin hits & 54 frames with strikes: I was throwing on the first board with a loft just past the first arrow I guess 12 to 13 feet out as my bowl loft. out of 170 frames I took out 9 pins on 57 frames & 54 strike frames so 111 frames 9 or better out of 170 frames. that was on Sunday 4-23-23. I think 14 to 15 loft on the first board would have more strikes over the 9 pins hit.
I have been bowling for 43 years, have a good average, and these are my beliefs. If you want to take out the 10 pin more often getting more strikes, then throw a 16 pound ball. If you aren't going to get a strike then leave the 10 pin. It is the easiest common leave. Everything else is failure, especially the 4 pin. Let's say the optimal entry angle is 5.7 degrees. Then don't get more than that. Throw it too hard and leave the 10 instead of too soft leaving a hard spare.
I used 12 lb fun spiral ball polyester. the black, yellow & blue spiral high games was 224
I like the spiral pattern ball so I can dramatically see the way the ball is rolling as a straight ball = NOT rolling on its side with no board to board roll. I want end over end roll really.
So this all sounds like 2 handed bowlers have an advantage with their revs with the assumption that they don't lose accuracy; is that right?
Really it is anyone who can generate 6 degrees of entry angle. Two handers or one handers. But too much entry angle can actually be a disadvantage, especially if the ball is entering high in the pocket. 6 degrees gives you the greatest chance of striking across the entire 4" range of the pocket.
@@USBC Got it! I was assuming that 2 handed bowlers more easily got to that 6 degree mark with the higher rev rate than a straighter 1 handed bowler with lower rev rate.
More plainly, does a 1 handed bowler have to work harder than a 2 handed bowler to get the 6 degree entry angle?
@@KMurtheGamer Probably the most common reason people give for using the two-handed style is that it helps generate more rev rate and hook, and one of the reasons you'd want to do that is to achieve more entry angle. But many one-handers are still able to achieve 6 degrees pretty easily.
@@USBC Ok, you've been very helpful, thank you!
You asked about 12lb ball carry, and low speed carry, and the answer was so vague that it was almost a useless answer. Can you get any actual answers to those questions? Maybe show the actual data and graphs for those speeds. Also, how do they only test below 14mph when almost every pro is hitting the pins much faster? That’s sort of embarrassing to claim to be testing reality when you aren’t even up to speed with the slow pros. And no video of the tests? What year is this?