1986-87 was a cool time for industrial/electronic music. Ministry was on fire. Skinny Puppy was kicking ass. Einstruzende Neubauten, Test Dept, Front Line Assembly, Front 242 were all going hard. Let's not forget my favorite label of all time WAX TRAX for releasing industrial albums in the US that no other record company would touch. Let's not forget Nettwerk and 4AD (not really industrial but cool), two other labels from that era that need a mention. I miss those days.
Best period of Ministry. I grew up taking acid and listening to Land of Rape and Honey like it was a religious sermon, but over the years I've grown to love Twitch the most out of Ministry's discography. It helps that it was created by two of the best producers ever in the electronic music scene: Adrian Sherwood (hands down the best Industrial producer ever- along with Flood) and Keith LeBlanc (who was a pioneer of Hip-Hop, having been the studio session drummer for Sugar Hill Records and later forming Tackhead with the Sugar Hill Band). It is a bit misleading that the album credits show Ministry as being solely Al Jorgensen at the time of Twitch's production. It would be much more accurate to say that for the making of Twitch, Ministry consisted of Al Jourgensen, Adrian Sherwood and Keith LeBlanc.
Luc Van Acker is listed on the album credits as well vocals on 'Where you at now. ' Al's ego was too big to fit in the clubs he played in, especially the mid to late 80s.
Ministry is one of the few bands I have heard that sound better Live than they do on album, tape, or CD. Saw them in San Antonio back in the 80's and they were just amazing!
This is such an awesome version of over the shoulder, I wish he'd release it as a remix. Way darker and more hard hitting, the perfect fusion between Twitch and LORAH days.
Actually, by now I hoped that more videos of Ministry-Twitch era live would have surfaced. So far I have only seen 1 other actual video of Twitch live, on utube, from a Show at Medusa's-Chicago from 1986 (Isle of Man). Oh well, maybe more will surface someday. At least Ministry did release the Toronto 1986 live album, not to mention Trax Box with many quite incredible sounding previously unreleased early Ministry Tracks.
You can see his Akai S-900 and Akai AX-73 combo (left in the early part of the video); I'm amazed it's this early (as far as Ministry videos shown) the sampler and sampler-adaptable synth were brought in apart of Ministry. I swear those make Ministry's sound the way it is. But it is possible to get close with any 12-Bit sampler you have with EFX :)
This would have been one of the last times he would perform this song. I saw them one or two tours again. He'd added "We Believe" from Twitch to the setlist, albeit in a very metalized version. Awesome. This is great footage. Very very cool.
I wish i could remember the month I went and saw Ministry at The London Victory Club in Tampa, FL. I know this in not in Tampa, but I can find any video. I asked Al when I met him after their concert (which was the Twitch tour of course) why they didn't play anything from With Sympathy album, and Al said it was like they put a gun to my head to make that album.....partied with the band at the Days Inn. They were all cool as hell.
there's an interview with paul (after he left ministry) where he mentions the barbed wire fence, how everyone got cut to shit on that tour and how it was not as well documented as the chain-link fence tour. cool to actually see this.
Very cool industrial electro tracks on this album. Al was incredible back then but wasn't well covered videowise so this is great to see as he really transformed through the years. Too bad he fell into crappy speed metal chaos music in his later years.
Wow!!!! This is fucking great!!! I bought TWITCH when it came out and it still blows me away! What a incredible version of Over The Shoulder. I wish Ministry would have stayed in this phase for a few more years. The next album, Land of Rape and Honey, was awesome too, still within the industrial vain. After that things went in a more guitar oriented direction. Of course they got more popular but I really like when they were at this stage of the game. Thanks for posting!!
Wow...very cool! I agree you should post more of this if you have! I've been waiting a long time for someone to post Twitch era stuff! I also agree with the post that Al should have at least played updated versions of some of this material later (esp during the "final" tour)! Although I do seem to recall hearing that he did very briefly play (I think) "We Believe" during the Psalm 69 tour.
Al needs to come out of retirement and record another album in the vein of "Twitch" before he dies. Why not? A lot of so-called Industrial music these days is shit anyway. I bet if he made an album like "Twitch" with true industrial sounds and analogue equipment, he'd blow these newer bands out of the water. I know he still has it in him...
Chris Zurc actually there are a shit ton of amazing industrial and EBM acts right now. This is hands down the best time for this music since the mid 80's.
@@machinelanguage5108 absolutely! I remember when I started making my own industrial albums, the shit that the scene was dominated by was all that overdriven pseudo trance club industrial crap, and holy cow it was stale. But right around that time, Youth Code came out with their demo cassette, High Functioning Flesh had theirs, Puppy released their best in years, tons of small acts were embracing less club-centric sounds and using sounds that were both contemporary and old-school alike. We're in a renaissance for industrial!
i really prefer the first three Ministry LPs to any of their later stuff. I love synth and new wave. NWO had it's moments, but it all went to hell after that.
I love everything Ministry did from the early singles of 1981 to their more recent records. I'm a fan of both new wave and metal so it helps! you should definitely try the songs Kaif, Eureka Pile, Whip And Chain and Nursing Home on Dark Side Of The Spoon (1999), Al made a partial comeback to the gothrock, new wave and EBM sound of his early records, you could like it! Of course if you don't like records like Filth Pig or Houses Of The Molé I understand!
I agree with both previous postings. This is an awesome live performance. The first time I saw Ministry was in '92 and this material was long gone in their live sets... too bad! Twitch is mostly good... I don't like the All Day Remix. It seems to be misplaced on the album. LORAH seems to acknowledge Twitch as well as taking the music more towards a "Big Black" direction. I sure wish he'd go back to more electronic music than the god-awful metal trash!
The All Day song was originally one of the 1984 Ministry Wax Trax separately released singles. I agree that it doesn't belong on the Twitch Album, although I do like that song a lot. I think Sire Records liked that song and insisted that it be incuded on the Twitch Album, possibly just to fill space. I would have preferred to have heard 'Abortive' on the Twitch album, that song was originally written for Twitch I believe, and sounds more in-line with the Twitch Album sound. And YES I also much prefer the truly elecro-industrial sounding version of Ministry.
1986-87 was a cool time for industrial/electronic music. Ministry was on fire. Skinny Puppy was kicking ass. Einstruzende Neubauten, Test Dept, Front Line Assembly, Front 242 were all going hard. Let's not forget my favorite label of all time WAX TRAX for releasing industrial albums in the US that no other record company would touch. Let's not forget Nettwerk and 4AD (not really industrial but cool), two other labels from that era that need a mention. I miss those days.
Mute Records too
You didn't mention Laibach ! Wtf
On-U Records: Tackhead, Keith Leblanc, Mark Stewart + Maffia.
Also forgot Cabaret Voltaire.
absolute Peak Ministry
How does this video exist?… well done camera having dude
Best period of Ministry. I grew up taking acid and listening to Land of Rape and Honey like it was a religious sermon, but over the years I've grown to love Twitch the most out of Ministry's discography. It helps that it was created by two of the best producers ever in the electronic music scene: Adrian Sherwood (hands down the best Industrial producer ever- along with Flood) and Keith LeBlanc (who was a pioneer of Hip-Hop, having been the studio session drummer for Sugar Hill Records and later forming Tackhead with the Sugar Hill Band). It is a bit misleading that the album credits show Ministry as being solely Al Jorgensen at the time of Twitch's production. It would be much more accurate to say that for the making of Twitch, Ministry consisted of Al Jourgensen, Adrian Sherwood and Keith LeBlanc.
That's interesting because some of Ministries early beats remind me of hip-hop samples
well stated. my fave too. easy to see cabaret voltair's CODE being a direct catalyst as well.
You know your trivia, mate. Props.
I know this comment is old but don’t forget the great Gareth Jones
Luc Van Acker is listed on the album credits as well vocals on 'Where you at now. ' Al's ego was too big to fit in the clubs he played in, especially the mid to late 80s.
I was at this concert!!! Numbers in Houston. Guest of Bruce Godwin. Show was amazing!!! I partied with Uncle Al afterwards!!!
Dude that’s amazing!!! What was it like partying with Al F’n Jourgensen?!!!
Ministry is one of the few bands I have heard that sound better Live than they do on album, tape, or CD. Saw them in San Antonio back in the 80's and they were just amazing!
Houston had such an awesome industrial & metal scene in the 80s. Wish I hadn't of been 4 years old in 1987 and could of enjoyed it. -_-
I just realize what it is that makes this track so hard it's the full tone synth - not just the grating noise but the melodic parts too. Haunting!
i noticed the sample of bongos got replaced with digital beats
I was there, LOL - didn't know this existed.
This is such an awesome version of over the shoulder, I wish he'd release it as a remix. Way darker and more hard hitting, the perfect fusion between Twitch and LORAH days.
I never thought I'd get to see any live clips from Twitch tour. This is great!
Actually, by now I hoped that more videos of Ministry-Twitch era live would have surfaced. So far I have only seen 1 other actual video of Twitch live, on utube, from a Show at Medusa's-Chicago from 1986 (Isle of Man). Oh well, maybe more will surface someday. At least Ministry did release the Toronto 1986 live album, not to mention Trax Box with many quite incredible sounding previously unreleased early Ministry Tracks.
Also the full Ministry 1987 Concert at Numbers was up on TH-cam at one point, but now it is gone (for now) :(
It’s back up!
th-cam.com/video/3ZsM1Micg1Q/w-d-xo.html
You can see his Akai S-900 and Akai AX-73 combo (left in the early part of the video); I'm amazed it's this early (as far as Ministry videos shown) the sampler and sampler-adaptable synth were brought in apart of Ministry.
I swear those make Ministry's sound the way it is. But it is possible to get close with any 12-Bit sampler you have with EFX :)
Man I am constantly looking to recreate that ministry sound
God how did you find this so rare. awsome
This would have been one of the last times he would perform this song. I saw them one or two tours again. He'd added "We Believe" from Twitch to the setlist, albeit in a very metalized version. Awesome.
This is great footage. Very very cool.
Seeing Al on the keys is GREAT!
I loved the Twitch era
Oh my fucking god! sounds amazing, the noise of the steels and the atmosphere of that years it's incredible!
Wow! This was a great show! I was there, too. Outstanding!!
introduction of the guitar changed everything.
I love this performance. Pure insanity.
I wish i could remember the month I went and saw Ministry at The London Victory Club in Tampa, FL. I know this in not in Tampa, but I can find any video. I asked Al when I met him after their concert (which was the Twitch tour of course) why they didn't play anything from With Sympathy album, and Al said it was like they put a gun to my head to make that album.....partied with the band at the Days Inn. They were all cool as hell.
This is what is was all about. Brilliant.
I vaguely remember that show - thanks for posting. Man, the 80's were great.
there's an interview with paul (after he left ministry) where he mentions the barbed wire fence, how everyone got cut to shit on that tour and how it was not as well documented as the chain-link fence tour. cool to actually see this.
Houston 6400!
Damn...I was at their show here at #'s a year later
Very cool industrial electro tracks on this album. Al was incredible back then but wasn't well covered videowise so this is great to see as he really transformed through the years. Too bad he fell into crappy speed metal chaos music in his later years.
TEXAS is the place!
Twitch is their best album!
heeeeeeell yeah
i love the diversity
the last 4 seconds were also very kool. Was it intentional?
Wow!!!! This is fucking great!!! I bought TWITCH when it came out and it still blows me away! What a incredible version of Over The Shoulder. I wish Ministry would have stayed in this phase for a few more years. The next album, Land of Rape and Honey, was awesome too, still within the industrial vain. After that things went in a more guitar oriented direction. Of course they got more popular but I really like when they were at this stage of the game. Thanks for posting!!
this is so fucking cool!!!
The ancient Egypt of industrial music
By far my favorite Ministry song and this performance of it is beyond perfection🤘🏻
🖤🖤🖤
I happen to think this song sounds VERY industrial.
Please post more of this amazing show! I love the live stuff from when they were still in this transitional phaze before they went metal.
Numbers #1
holy shit this is awesome! thanks for the upload/keeping it up!
this is great stuff, more of that show please!
Wow...very cool! I agree you should post more of this if you have! I've been waiting a long time for someone to post Twitch era stuff! I also agree with the post that Al should have at least played updated versions of some of this material later (esp during the "final" tour)! Although I do seem to recall hearing that he did very briefly play (I think) "We Believe" during the Psalm 69 tour.
Al needs to come out of retirement and record another album in the vein of "Twitch" before he dies. Why not? A lot of so-called Industrial music these days is shit anyway. I bet if he made an album like "Twitch" with true industrial sounds and analogue equipment, he'd blow these newer bands out of the water. I know he still has it in him...
Chris Zurc actually there are a shit ton of amazing industrial and EBM acts right now. This is hands down the best time for this music since the mid 80's.
@@machinelanguage5108 absolutely! I remember when I started making my own industrial albums, the shit that the scene was dominated by was all that overdriven pseudo trance club industrial crap, and holy cow it was stale.
But right around that time, Youth Code came out with their demo cassette, High Functioning Flesh had theirs, Puppy released their best in years, tons of small acts were embracing less club-centric sounds and using sounds that were both contemporary and old-school alike.
We're in a renaissance for industrial!
AUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i really prefer the first three Ministry LPs to any of their later stuff. I love synth and new wave. NWO had it's moments, but it all went to hell after that.
NWO wasn't the name of any of their albums....just for the record.
I love everything Ministry did from the early singles of 1981 to their more recent records. I'm a fan of both new wave and metal so it helps! you should definitely try the songs Kaif, Eureka Pile, Whip And Chain and Nursing Home on Dark Side Of The Spoon (1999), Al made a partial comeback to the gothrock, new wave and EBM sound of his early records, you could like it! Of course if you don't like records like Filth Pig or Houses Of The Molé I understand!
Pre cursers, but damn the best
Lord almighty.
can i buy this off you on vhs
I thought they only toured Twitch in '86, but I don't think Al shaved his head until '87, so this appears right.
so sick
Rumba Samba Mambo era.
I agree with both previous postings. This is an awesome live performance. The first time I saw Ministry was in '92 and this material was long gone in their live sets... too bad! Twitch is mostly good... I don't like the All Day Remix. It seems to be misplaced on the album. LORAH seems to acknowledge Twitch as well as taking the music more towards a "Big Black" direction. I sure wish he'd go back to more electronic music than the god-awful metal trash!
The All Day song was originally one of the 1984 Ministry Wax Trax separately released singles. I agree that it doesn't belong on the Twitch Album, although I do like that song a lot. I think Sire Records liked that song and insisted that it be incuded on the Twitch Album, possibly just to fill space. I would have preferred to have heard 'Abortive' on the Twitch album, that song was originally written for Twitch I believe, and sounds more in-line with the Twitch Album sound. And YES I also much prefer the truly elecro-industrial sounding version of Ministry.
All Day is the best and most accessible song on Twitch. Abortive should have taken up the space that garbage track at the end took up.
@fstop77 Agreed 100%. After Land of Rape and Honey, things went in the wrong direction.
Rad
Is that really Al jourgensen?
what synth is that? sounds like a real one, not a fairlight.
Hey carrion please reply back I would like to possibly get a copy of this tape or a video file through email please get back to me
50 € for Al's thoughts while this event.
That x is goood. Me wants more.... Bruce!
it was probably bad drugs
Love thiz song!!! 1 of my fave Ministry songs!!😎🙏🏼🎶🎶🎶