What I loved about this episode is that Raven was taught a lesson. Before even getting to know him, she judged him when he genuinely had feelings for her and once his look was changed, Raven wanted to be more than friends. This is why the saying goes "never judge a book by its cover"
I felt that was a big problem with Disney shows-they portray a message that looks are the only thing that matters. Raven didn’t like Tyler because of his looks. But then when he got a makeover and she saw how handsome he was, suddenly she wanted him. Nothing to do with his personality, only his looks.
@@StealthMode3924 oh for sure! It is a big problem when they online think of looks and not personality. I do think that his character has genuine feelings and might’ve had a great personality which Raven didn’t consider
But I feel it was unnecessarily harsh on her not getting to be with him. Especially since he felt the same way. This show was a little too Aesop-heavy anyways.
@@furtadoalbum9679 I get what you mean, but in a sense, I feel like it was a lesson for her, yes, his feelings were genuine but for her she just wanted him for his new look and getting as one of the previous comments mentioned, his personality. Of course at the end of the day it is is Aesop-heavy.
Raven is so shallow for not liking Tyler just because of how we looked but straight after he was transformed by means of her makeover and she saw what a really good looking guy he was underneath his clothes and paint and all of that then she realized her epic mistake but you shouldn't like a person physically on how they look but who they are and I think that Raven only like Tyler when she saw how he looked physically as in really cute I think he ended up with the right person instead even though Vicky herself didn't like Tyler either up until his makeover
@@juanitamorgan5475Physical attraction is just as important as personality. Not dating someone because you don't find them attractive isn't shallow. It's human nature.
@@BiracialTanikaThat’s true. He didn’t even know how to properly groom himself. He was not ugly, but raven is definitely a chick who cares so much about how she presents herself physically mostly. So of course she was going to feel that way at first with him until he got a whole make over. Even the girl he got with (the one that’s not raven) didn’t even notice him until the make over. Lol
I know when I really thought about it and what could’ve been but oh well. Plus she has Devon anyways so it’s fine and he never returns after that episode so... 🤷🏽♀️
But can you blame her though she didn't know that the boy was going to turn out to be so fine then she realized her mistake which is kind of sad because he liked her a lot and he was going to choose her maybe even ask her to be his girlfriend but then after what Raven told him he ended up choosing Vicky
Raven didn't like Tyler she only started liking him because of how good-looking although in all honesty he was already good looking she was judging him based on his physical appearance when she saw how handsome and well-dressed he was bam she has a crush on him that's very shallow
i always found this episode a bit annoying. Cause Raven judged him solely on looks when he was dorky looking and said she just wanted to be friends, then when she learned he was actually really good looking she wanted more. It's weird that i feel sorry for him at the end but not so much her
He really did like her I mean he even made a drawing of Raven that was in his locker way before he even met someone and drew a picture of her he really liked Raven it was her he liked not Vicky but Raven just had to go and tell him that she wanted to be just friends
I just rewatched this episode on Disney+ & I remember gushing over Tyler even when I was 7 😅 I tried looking for how he looks now but no luck 💔 Also, I agree with the comments, this episode broke my heart. He was always so sweet and kind, even before the makeover. Raven just had to break it off before she even got to truly know him. It was all solely on looks and in the end he still wanted her 😭
And he wanted to give her the drawing he made of her he still kept it in his locker which is clearly an indication that he still liked her but Raven went and ruined everything all on her own it's all her fault😢
I felt so sorry for Tyler even without the makeover he was kinda cute like she should have never judged him coues he like her a lot I wish they would have brought him back this was really sad
To be honest I believe her and Tyler was a great match and they we’re meant to be but to be honest Raven did blow it because she judged his nerdy look then when they fixed him up and made him cooler, she was in love but that was her fault and he found Vicky. ITS SAD BUT YA GOTTA MOVE ON. BESIDES SHE KNOW DEVON WAS ALWAYS IN HER HEART
Females in the comments acting like yall dont be judging dudes without even knowing them. Its always about looks with yall. Look at how Laura used to treat Steve til he changed his look.
Finally somebody said it 😂. I'm a woman and I totally agree with you. The other women in the comments are not being honest with themselves. Attraction is key to a relationship unless you're blind.
just saying it is so much you could do with this plot. so many different ways you could take it when you have chemistry like that with to actors, it pays to use it. no offense to Devon but this dude could actually act and had in a sense "love" for raven. This plot alone could've have given "That So Raven" some substance instead of the same old thing.
@@MsLeak18 I understand and I agree they should have done that. I'm sure they bump to each other every once and a while. They went to the same school, I'm sure they did. I wish they could have had a love triangle between raven, Devon, and tyler because Tyler was very sweet.
@@MsLeak18 but I think they didn't futher this relationship because it was a lesson in this episode. It taught us not to judge a book by its cover and not just go for looks. This episode basically taught us to love someone when their not their best because you would not deserve when they are at their best. But I do agree they should have further the chemistry
It teaches you a lesson never judge a book by its cover I feel he should told her he loved her and they would been together they could been ment to be together if he would told her I would loved if he drew pictures of her on his drawing notebook and was flipping them like a story that's so nice,cute and romantic
This Show, Is One Of My Main Favorite Episode(s)I Did Wanted Her And Her Dream Gentlemen Here To Be Together......I Thought That She Or He Would Confess Their Love Feelings For Each Other...And, I Didn't Care, How....But, It Never Happen...(It's A Shame).....I Even Wanted Him To Make A Returned To Her Show......To Get Her Back, And Finally Confess His Love For Her (This Do Sucks)...Because, They Would Make A Sweet Couple.....Okay, I Even Thought About A Marriage For Them Too....(Okay, A Little Bit Ahead Here)......Now, They Will Never Know....How They Truly Feel For One Another...."Wow!"....What A Sad Day For Them.....You Have A Blessed Day.
this episode tought us that ppl call u sweet only if uare hot and handsome ,it didt happend to me ,i was fat but after u became skiny and gain some muscles ppl who didnt like me ,they start to tell me i am sweet guy ,,,,
anybody know if he’s filipino? he looks like it. also he really fell off the grid since he did this episode. hasn’t acted since and can’t even find him on social media 😢
@@BiracialTanika girl it's 2023. "Chewing on carpet these days" seriously? Update your mind babe. You can say sapphic, lesbian, gay, or queer. Also, separate the actor from the character. Raven Baxter is straight & Raven Symoné is gay (not "these days". It's been more than a decade & she has a wife). I do think Raven B wouldn't date yet. She's too busy with her dad, the chill grill, her fashion line and Booker. I do wanna see her on dates
Oh how I can relate to Tyler, dealing w/ superficial mfs who didn’t give me a second look before then. But after I cultivated and hooked myself up w/ a makeover of my own, here they come sniffing behind me 🥴🫠 tsk tsk. I’m still the same girl lol
How females do .. jsut help him out . Why shoot him down bc went he glow yo you going to be all in his face smh .. and he should reject u like u reject him .
What I loved about this episode is that Raven was taught a lesson. Before even getting to know him, she judged him when he genuinely had feelings for her and once his look was changed, Raven wanted to be more than friends. This is why the saying goes "never judge a book by its cover"
I felt that was a big problem with Disney shows-they portray a message that looks are the only thing that matters. Raven didn’t like Tyler because of his looks. But then when he got a makeover and she saw how handsome he was, suddenly she wanted him. Nothing to do with his personality, only his looks.
@@StealthMode3924 oh for sure! It is a big problem when they online think of looks and not personality. I do think that his character has genuine feelings and might’ve had a great personality which Raven didn’t consider
But I feel it was unnecessarily harsh on her not getting to be with him. Especially since he felt the same way. This show was a little too Aesop-heavy anyways.
@@furtadoalbum9679 I get what you mean, but in a sense, I feel like it was a lesson for her, yes, his feelings were genuine but for her she just wanted him for his new look and getting as one of the previous comments mentioned, his personality. Of course at the end of the day it is is Aesop-heavy.
I loved raven’s reaction. She was stunned and dazzled, and shamed herself for letting him get away
This broke my little cold heart
@@suziepeaches321 I’ve been searching online and his name in real life is Julian ? But that’s all I found 🥺
Aw he was so cute. I really wish they would’ve taken this plot further.
Honestly even if he didn’t end up with her I wouldn’t have cared as long as they brought him back.
Raven is so shallow for not liking Tyler just because of how we looked but straight after he was transformed by means of her makeover and she saw what a really good looking guy he was underneath his clothes and paint and all of that then she realized her epic mistake but you shouldn't like a person physically on how they look but who they are and I think that Raven only like Tyler when she saw how he looked physically as in really cute I think he ended up with the right person instead even though Vicky herself didn't like Tyler either up until his makeover
@@juanitamorgan5475Physical attraction is just as important as personality. Not dating someone because you don't find them attractive isn't shallow. It's human nature.
@@BiracialTanikaThat’s true. He didn’t even know how to properly groom himself. He was not ugly, but raven is definitely a chick who cares so much about how she presents herself physically mostly. So of course she was going to feel that way at first with him until he got a whole make over. Even the girl he got with (the one that’s not raven) didn’t even notice him until the make over. Lol
This was honestly raven's fault. If she would got to know him before she told him just "friends", this would have never happend.
I know when I really thought about it and what could’ve been but oh well. Plus she has Devon anyways so it’s fine and he never returns after that episode so... 🤷🏽♀️
Isn't that the lesson though? To not judge a book by its cover.
@@mischiefmanaged7274 yes exactly! It's part of a lesson to not judge a book by its cover.
But can you blame her though she didn't know that the boy was going to turn out to be so fine then she realized her mistake which is kind of sad because he liked her a lot and he was going to choose her maybe even ask her to be his girlfriend but then after what Raven told him he ended up choosing Vicky
I know, right?
Definitely remember this episode. Especially that iconic blue outfit she wore. Unlocked childhood memory
Am i the only one who thought he was cute even before the makeover? This episode honestly made me sad for him
nah girl u aint alone 💕 if they had styled his long hair it would’ve worked!!
no , you’re not the only one !!
Styled his hair in a nice, slicked ponytail and changed his clothes he would’ve been just fine
Nah I did too he just needed better clothes
Girls get so caught up in the frosting, they ignore the sweet sweet cake underneath.
The ending always had me crying 😭 even as a kid lol
Same
Me too
I remember having such a crush on Tyler and being so angry at Raven that she didn’t secure that bag!! 😂😂😂
Yea she really let her shallowness drive him away smh 🤦🏾♀️
I felt sad at the end
This is the most heart breaking episode of the entire series.
It and There Goes The Bride.
Raven didn't like Tyler she only started liking him because of how good-looking although in all honesty he was already good looking she was judging him based on his physical appearance when she saw how handsome and well-dressed he was bam she has a crush on him that's very shallow
Who else wishes for a flip book just for yourself. 🤩🥰
Me!!!!! 🙋🏾♀️
i always found this episode a bit annoying. Cause Raven judged him solely on looks when he was dorky looking and said she just wanted to be friends, then when she learned he was actually really good looking she wanted more. It's weird that i feel sorry for him at the end but not so much her
Ok but Ravens home they can bring him back, they can bring him back my god I hope they bring him back 🥲
Even though the end of this episode was real sad!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭.
He really did like her I mean he even made a drawing of Raven that was in his locker way before he even met someone and drew a picture of her he really liked Raven it was her he liked not Vicky but Raven just had to go and tell him that she wanted to be just friends
I just rewatched this episode on Disney+ & I remember gushing over Tyler even when I was 7 😅 I tried looking for how he looks now but no luck 💔 Also, I agree with the comments, this episode broke my heart. He was always so sweet and kind, even before the makeover. Raven just had to break it off before she even got to truly know him. It was all solely on looks and in the end he still wanted her 😭
This was one of the funniest episodes. I lost it when she said bye, bye my little butterfly🤣🤣🤣
Same! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
and she ended up married and divorced from devon
She could’ve just told him how she feels, he obviously still liked her
This episode it just goes to show that you should never judge a person
And he wanted to give her the drawing he made of her he still kept it in his locker which is clearly an indication that he still liked her but Raven went and ruined everything all on her own it's all her fault😢
Eddie was so cool back in the day
He to show up on raven home and then they be together after all these years
the way raven was acting during that hug seems a little inappropriate for disney 😂😂
I need that actor to come on ravens home because tyler and raven were meant to be together 😭
that’s what i was thinking, looks like he hasn’t done anything since this episode 😭😭
Who is he@@efeso511
Love this episode of Raven!!!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩💖🤩🤩🤩🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🤩🤩🤩💖💖🥰.
I felt so sorry for Tyler even without the makeover he was kinda cute like she should have never judged him coues he like her a lot I wish they would have brought him back this was really sad
Whoah! I used to watch this episode a lot when I was younger and not feel a thing. Now that I'm older, this really hits different, but c'mon Raven.
you cut out the best part where Chelsea says, "amazing, he looks just like Eddie"
😅😅
I don't remember any of her visions changing lol
me after after seeing this: DAMNITT
To be honest I believe her and Tyler was a great match and they we’re meant to be but to be honest Raven did blow it because she judged his nerdy look then when they fixed him up and made him cooler, she was in love but that was her fault and he found Vicky. ITS SAD BUT YA GOTTA MOVE ON.
BESIDES SHE KNOW DEVON WAS ALWAYS IN HER HEART
Nah I felt real sad at the end of this episode 😩 what a shame
Females in the comments acting like yall dont be judging dudes without even knowing them. Its always about looks with yall. Look at how Laura used to treat Steve til he changed his look.
Finally somebody said it 😂. I'm a woman and I totally agree with you. The other women in the comments are not being honest with themselves. Attraction is key to a relationship unless you're blind.
I guess we weren't meant to be
Ugh, this is one of the many reasons why I hate that so raven. they could token this plot further
Yaay! somebody like my comment, I'm happy to know somebody else has creativity. Yes!
What do you mean by taking this plot further?
just saying it is so much you could do with this plot. so many different ways you could take it when you have chemistry like that with to actors, it pays to use it. no offense to Devon but this dude could actually act and had in a sense "love" for raven. This plot alone could've have given "That So Raven" some substance instead of the same old thing.
@@MsLeak18 I understand and I agree they should have done that. I'm sure they bump to each other every once and a while. They went to the same school, I'm sure they did. I wish they could have had a love triangle between raven, Devon, and tyler because Tyler was very sweet.
@@MsLeak18 but I think they didn't futher this relationship because it was a lesson in this episode. It taught us not to judge a book by its cover and not just go for looks. This episode basically taught us to love someone when their not their best because you would not deserve when they are at their best. But I do agree they should have further the chemistry
I'm not gonna lie, Tyler's got a good eye. Raven was pretty cute then. I was just too young to see it.
Raven earrings look so cute
💖
I always wonder how does bunch of high school kids bought all those clothes by themselves....
Lmao i knew he was going to be fine asf based off his smile 😍😍😍🤣🤣🤣🤣
For me Raven was like the female version of Martin.
Without the cartoon character.
Nazanin mandi looking young as hell lol
Lol after all these years, I rewatched it and realized “oh shii she’s dating Miguel now” She been pretty all her life 🥲
Crazy huh??? Lol now they split up
Awww this sad 😔
that ending sad tho
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It teaches you a lesson never judge a book by its cover I feel he should told her he loved her and they would been together they could been ment to be together if he would told her I would loved if he drew pictures of her on his drawing notebook and was flipping them like a story that's so nice,cute and romantic
This Show, Is One Of My Main Favorite Episode(s)I Did Wanted Her And Her Dream Gentlemen Here To Be Together......I Thought That She Or He Would Confess Their Love Feelings For Each Other...And, I Didn't Care, How....But, It Never Happen...(It's A Shame).....I Even Wanted Him To Make A Returned To Her Show......To Get Her Back, And Finally Confess His Love For Her (This Do Sucks)...Because, They Would Make A Sweet Couple.....Okay, I Even Thought About A Marriage For Them Too....(Okay, A Little Bit Ahead Here)......Now, They Will Never Know....How They Truly Feel For One Another...."Wow!"....What A Sad Day For Them.....You Have A Blessed Day.
Let’s hope they become a couple in ravens home
this episode tought us that ppl call u sweet only if uare hot and handsome ,it didt happend to me ,i was fat but after u became skiny and gain some muscles ppl who didnt like me ,they start to tell me i am sweet guy ,,,,
He so hit after ❤️
anybody know if he’s filipino? he looks like it. also he really fell off the grid since he did this episode. hasn’t acted since and can’t even find him on social media 😢
What if they bring Tyler back for Raven's home. Maybe now it's meant to be since Devon and Raven divorced and all (sad but it happens irl).
I don't think Raven is going to be dating anymore men. Both in real life and fiction. She's into chewing on carpet these days 🤭
@@BiracialTanika girl it's 2023. "Chewing on carpet these days" seriously? Update your mind babe. You can say sapphic, lesbian, gay, or queer. Also, separate the actor from the character. Raven Baxter is straight & Raven Symoné is gay (not "these days". It's been more than a decade & she has a wife).
I do think Raven B wouldn't date yet. She's too busy with her dad, the chill grill, her fashion line and Booker. I do wanna see her on dates
Tyler's real cute but Vicki's hot too.
They should bring this actor back for the new show
Where is the actor who plays Tyler?
i’ve tried looking for him on everything but it’s like he fell off the face of the earth 😩 !
@@iiamdeex2 seriously!!! No social media or anything😩😩 I hope he's alright
@@iiamdeex2 omg I just rewatched this episode today and I’ve been searching everywhere lmao
His name is Julian jackson, but there's nothing about him on the internet, it's like he doesn't exist😔
@@jennyypriv01I just saw this on TikTok and I couldn’t find him either
Oh how I can relate to Tyler, dealing w/ superficial mfs who didn’t give me a second look before then. But after I cultivated and hooked myself up w/ a makeover of my own, here they come sniffing behind me 🥴🫠 tsk tsk.
I’m still the same girl lol
Wait , whaaat! That ending 😫😫😫
Alguém assistindo??...🎃🥰😆😎🐷😜🦋
🥺🥺🥺🥺
Didn't find his insta
alysha kelley did you find it yet
I need it
@@Jenna-zl9su whyyyy
@@suziepeaches321 his name is Julian Jackson, but there's nothing about him on the internet
Found it
awww... he made 1 for her so he could be RAVENS BF OOMFGGG
Ele ficou tão lindo ficou parecendo o Renner do Rick e Renner!
Quando o Renner era mais ou menos né😂😂😂
I’d rather marry eddie
How females do .. jsut help him out . Why shoot him down bc went he glow yo you going to be all in his face smh .. and he should reject u like u reject him .
Why the girl look like mai khalifa by the face a lil😂
Raven Chelsea dresses belly dancing outfit I can see they feet
What did they do to those waitresses
The girl that played vicky is now Miguel's wife
What no way so we ended up marrying that girl?!
@@morganmom6143 yup
Daaaaamn
The bish is pretty lol , her being mixed w/ Iranian, Mexican & Native American 🇮🇷 🇲🇽🇮🇳
Who is Miguel?
awh ty