For anyone who picks up this deck, there's a sweet line that I'm REALLY surprised Seth didn't use. If you have a Prismari Command in your graveyard and a big dangerous spell in your hand, you can use your first Flamepainter trigger to recast the Command to loot away your big spell and shock/shatter/strike it rich, and then use the second Flamepainter trigger to cast the big spell. I also feel like there was at least one point in these games where playing Torrent Sculptor as a 6/6 with Ward 2 would have been sensible... but other than that, I'm happy to see a shell where Flamepainter doesn't feel like an overindulgence.
I use this deck. I have used a pumped Torrent Sculptor as a blocker to live the turn so I can win with the Mindlink combo. I have also done that exact line of play you mentioned, and it won me a game.
32:00 is not greedy, it's a great play from opponent, sure it only works like 20% of the time, but if they sit back and have to chump the efreet when seth still has 3 cards more than them in hand, for them to have to Topdeck a response not only to efreet but also to whatever else seth plays in his turn then it's a much lower chance of winning than 20%
Yup they see the same number of cards both ways so this nets them 3 damage and potentially denies seth a chance to draw a counter to the removal spell.
32:00 Not a misplay with that attack. If they block, the card they draw for turn would have to save them. And they are in the same situation with attacking. Not to mention you may have removal for the blocker or general interaction on your turn.
We already learned that lesson when Seth played Sorin tribal at the time, there was a big 10 dmg spell that performed way better than it looked (Sorin's Vengeance). It was in Modern and people like to deal themselves damage in Modern so the 10dmg were always very surprising x)
Match 2, game 1, if you are REALLY desperate for lethal you can lead with prismari command: deal 2 to their face and loot two cards. If you hit the 10 damage burn spell in those two cards that is 20.
I built this deck the other day, and it's amazing. It fits my play style so well. Also, I had three copies of Hinata that I got in my preorder bundle that I was doing nothing with so this gives them a home.
Hey Seth! This deck is literally so cool. I was wondering how you’d feel about Cathartic Pyre in it to be early removal while also having the ability to discard your huge spells early when you need to find Mech/Flamepainter?
1:03:45, the opponent misplayed pretty hard by forgetting that Hinata has flying. If they'd used the Mascot Interception on Hinata (paying the extra two for it) they would have had a 6/4 flyer to attack with that you wouldn't have been able to block. They might have been trying to play around a bounce spell like Fading Hope (so that you had to bounce your token instead of bouncing the creature you can just play next turn), but I feel like if you had a deployable bounce spell in that circumstance they weren't going to come back anyways, so they should have just gone for it. Deck looks really sweet. I'm surprised at how often you get in juuust enough damage to make a single Explosive Iteration be lethal.
The Puppy War 1G Enchantment - Saga I. Each player creates a 1/1 green Dog creature token. II, III. You may have target creature fight target creature. Or maybe: The Puppy War G Enchantment - Saga I, II. Each player creates a 1/1 green Dog creature token. III. You may have any number of target creatures you control fight target creature.
Galvanic iteration seems like it could be really strong here. Get it back with flamepainter and then get back explosive singularity to one shot, and even just copying an opus is a ton of value.
With a little extra mana, a Modern version of this deck could use Pull From Eternity in between Mindlink/Flamepainter hits to use the same copy of Singularity for both triggers (Cast it from First Strike trigger, then use Pull to put it back for the Normal Strike trigger.)
I really hope this set gets people excited about kamigawa. The original was one of my favorite sets. It left most players with a bad taste sadly so they dislike the plane. This set will be the revival of kamigawa!
I feel like you undervalued Torrent sculptor by a ton. It removes something and fuels your game plan so I think it's miles better than any other single target removal spell in the deck. Game one against werewolves you took it out for abrade and then discarded it when it could have killed their hastey werewolf.
It's sorcery speed sadly, so it isn't great against haste threats, but I do agree it's a solid removal spell for the deck for sure. Fills the graveyard and usually kills the opponents biggest thing.
One nice [gotcha] thing you can do with this deck is get a flamepainter down with nothing in the yard and if it goes unblocked in response using any instant speed discard effects to get those cards in the yard before the flamepainter trigger. Feels good to see someone reading flamepainter, then mouse over the graveyard to see there is nothing of value to cast and let's the attack through!
So... How do I make this into pioneer deck? Going to 3 colors probably not necessary, could play Wildfire Eternal instead of Hinata, could play some number of gearhulks also. Izzet charm obvious way to loot and DDT to round everything up?
I kinda think that you should count rares as less than a full rare for purposes of Budget Magic on Arena, simply because you should get the rare lands basically no matter what, you'll probably need them for other decks. A rare that's a combo piece just for one deck hurts, but rare lands that I know I'm gonna need for other decks are fine. The only way that the rare lands really hurt is when you're building your first couple of decks.
To respond to your comment about lands, budget decks benefit from mana fixing and insane card draw. Treasures, Jaspera Sentinel, Village Rites, Path to the Festival, etc can make sure you get at least one of both colors. Then you just build a deck that avoids double pips.
I've had to mute all emotes since Kamigawa launched. Seems like any time I play any counter or any removal at all, people get so tilted and spam "Your Go" or the sleepy emote for the rest of the game. Like, do you not have removal in your deck either? Get over yourselves.
@@ailexj1118 Then don't play Magic. Control is just as crucial to a healthy meta game as aggro is. Anything else is an outright lie. And also, how am I the monster for using cards that are part of the game? Grow up, or go back to the kitchen table and whine about Cancel in EDH.
@@ailexj1118 Wow. It's just a game, dude, and we're all just playing it. If you think I'm a "toxic person" and an "absolute jerk" for putting Infernal Grasp in my deck, you need therapy. You're taking this game wayyy too seriously, pal.
Maybe we should have stuck it out for another turn, with our opponent missing land drops it's incredibly likely that they either have another creature to win through a blocker or a removal spell to win through a blocker, but in hindsight I wish I had stuck around one more turn just to make sure.
???? Am I the only one confused with not using Faithful Mending in this deck? It seems perfect. Turn 2 Faithful Mending to pitch Singularity, Turn 3 Mech, Turn 4 Painter. Not to mention pairing it with Expressive Iteration gives the deck so much early game card advantage. I feel like it's way better than Unexpected Windfall in this deck.
Yeah, it was kinda weird that he essentially splashed White just for Hinata. Like, it worked out, but I would think that Faithful Mending or Thrilling Discovery would've been good ideas.
The thing I like about Unexpected Windfall is that the two Treasures if we need to hardcast things like Magma Opus/Explosive Singularity. Faithful Mending does seem good in the deck though, it's mostly just a matter of finding room. Maybe it's better than Expressive Iteration?
@@MTGGoldfish That's super fair. Making sure you can hard cast your game winning spells in emergencies makes sense too. The deck looks sweet as always, and it really makes me want to look at any other insane synergies that Mech could do across other formats. I might try to fit Faithful Mending somewhere in the deck, but I love how unique it does feel. It's also sweet to see a card like Flamepainter do amazing things.
That relies on having a lot of things go right (painter and/or mech both surviving, easier said than done in a format filled with Skyclave, Vanishing Verse, Borrowed Time, etc), whereas the ramp from windfall helps with just hardcasting Magma Opus to help stabilize.
Lol at the first opponent spamming the bored hedron emoji when they're playing bog-standard werewolves and you're playing free spell jank tribal with a bunch of new cards.
I think the opponent attacking with grazilaxx makes sense, because if they whiff with it's draw, then they would have instead just died the next turn to drawing the same card, whereas if they draw a creature/answer then this way they still get to keep the grazilaxx in play.
I don't think he does. But you can put in a Thrilling Discovery/Cathartic Pyre, or even better a Sorcerer Class because you get to draw before you discard.
I was trying to find it in the entire video and couldn't... You need to discard 2 cards on turn 2 I believe and this deck doesnt enable that. Cathartic Pyre is a 2 cmc draw 2 discard 2 that would work as well as the UW one.
I think a copy or two could be good. I've noticed that the channel lands eat into my MDFC slots a bit, just because you can only play so many lands that tap for one color of mana. Sea Gate is probably worth it in this deck though as another big spell to flash back.
Dont take this the wrong way, you face overlay on the video really doesnt add anything to the overall video. I dont come hear to stare at your face I come here to watch and listen to you play games
@@senpaibos2748 There is nothing inherently greedy about making a new format, no-one is forcing you to play it, and the issue you should be upset about is the general predatory economy of Arena, not specifically Alchemy. Making weird new formats and trying out weird new ideas is exactly the kind of thing we should want WotC to be doing, especially since doing it thru Alchemy means it does not affect paper formats at all.
For anyone who picks up this deck, there's a sweet line that I'm REALLY surprised Seth didn't use. If you have a Prismari Command in your graveyard and a big dangerous spell in your hand, you can use your first Flamepainter trigger to recast the Command to loot away your big spell and shock/shatter/strike it rich, and then use the second Flamepainter trigger to cast the big spell.
I also feel like there was at least one point in these games where playing Torrent Sculptor as a 6/6 with Ward 2 would have been sensible... but other than that, I'm happy to see a shell where Flamepainter doesn't feel like an overindulgence.
2 damage from the prismari command, 8 damage from the flamespeaker mech and 10 from explosive singularity makes exactly 20!
I use this deck. I have used a pumped Torrent Sculptor as a blocker to live the turn so I can win with the Mindlink combo. I have also done that exact line of play you mentioned, and it won me a game.
That "I'm recording a video!" Was funnier to me than I think it should be.
was great
32:00 is not greedy, it's a great play from opponent, sure it only works like 20% of the time, but if they sit back and have to chump the efreet when seth still has 3 cards more than them in hand, for them to have to Topdeck a response not only to efreet but also to whatever else seth plays in his turn then it's a much lower chance of winning than 20%
Yup they see the same number of cards both ways so this nets them 3 damage and potentially denies seth a chance to draw a counter to the removal spell.
100%
I was just coming down here to say this xD
Yeah its a scary move.
But it was 100% the correct play on their part.
32:00 Not a misplay with that attack. If they block, the card they draw for turn would have to save them. And they are in the same situation with attacking. Not to mention you may have removal for the blocker or general interaction on your turn.
Hard cast Explosive singularity is sneaky. Big direct damage is always better than it looks.
It happened way more often than I thought it would!
We already learned that lesson when Seth played Sorin tribal at the time, there was a big 10 dmg spell that performed way better than it looked (Sorin's Vengeance).
It was in Modern and people like to deal themselves damage in Modern so the 10dmg were always very surprising x)
@@UTUB2kholle yep, I use sorins Vengeance as a finisher in my modern deck. The theme is "things no one expects"
I can’t believe Seth managed to essentially “Hidetsugu’s Second Rite” people *multiple times*
On here seven minutes in. Can't freaking wait!
Edit: This deck was just glorious. I'm so happy it was winning games. Such a glorious deck.
Glad you like it :)
@@MTGGoldfish wonderful video. Petition to change this deck's name to Spirit Bomb Jeskai
1st match is the worst kind of opponent. The kind that sleepy emotes any time there's interaction
Kind of amusing to think of someone sleep emoting Saffron Olive because he thought it was a netdeck xD
Opponent was so busy with the emotes that missed lethal game 1.
@@aidancockroft88 Ultimate irony, seeing that they were playing werewolves
Match 2, game 1, if you are REALLY desperate for lethal you can lead with prismari command: deal 2 to their face and loot two cards. If you hit the 10 damage burn spell in those two cards that is 20.
Seth, I love how you give a 2 minute guide/advice on how to play the deck. Really helpful!
I built this deck the other day, and it's amazing. It fits my play style so well. Also, I had three copies of Hinata that I got in my preorder bundle that I was doing nothing with so this gives them a home.
Bear really loves your cables 😂 we used to spray cables with bitter apple spray when my dog was a puppy. Highly recommend. Also great vid!
Best, and most fun standars I seen since I came back to Magic 3 years ago. Thank you Seth :)
Oh wow is that a low bar
An amazing second trip for Efreet Flamepainter. Super sweet deck dude.
Hey Seth! This deck is literally so cool. I was wondering how you’d feel about Cathartic Pyre in it to be early removal while also having the ability to discard your huge spells early when you need to find Mech/Flamepainter?
1:03:45, the opponent misplayed pretty hard by forgetting that Hinata has flying. If they'd used the Mascot Interception on Hinata (paying the extra two for it) they would have had a 6/4 flyer to attack with that you wouldn't have been able to block. They might have been trying to play around a bounce spell like Fading Hope (so that you had to bounce your token instead of bouncing the creature you can just play next turn), but I feel like if you had a deployable bounce spell in that circumstance they weren't going to come back anyways, so they should have just gone for it.
Deck looks really sweet. I'm surprised at how often you get in juuust enough damage to make a single Explosive Iteration be lethal.
49:40 I genuinely thought that was the game's sound effects at first.🤣
This is a great name of card: "The Puppies War"
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Intant
Two targets creatures with mana value 1 or less that a oponent control Fight
The Puppy War
1G
Enchantment - Saga
I. Each player creates a 1/1 green Dog creature token.
II, III. You may have target creature fight target creature.
Or maybe:
The Puppy War
G
Enchantment - Saga
I, II. Each player creates a 1/1 green Dog creature token.
III. You may have any number of target creatures you control fight target creature.
Galvanic iteration seems like it could be really strong here. Get it back with flamepainter and then get back explosive singularity to one shot, and even just copying an opus is a ton of value.
With a little extra mana, a Modern version of this deck could use Pull From Eternity in between Mindlink/Flamepainter hits to use the same copy of Singularity for both triggers (Cast it from First Strike trigger, then use Pull to put it back for the Normal Strike trigger.)
I think the angel Fire ignition sorcerery from the werewolf set might be a good add to this to give more consistency
I really hope this set gets people excited about kamigawa. The original was one of my favorite sets. It left most players with a bad taste sadly so they dislike the plane. This set will be the revival of kamigawa!
I wasn’t around for original kamigawa, but I definitely got consumer fatigue from WOTC recently. This set got me excited for magic in general again
bravo Jure, medijska zvizdo 🥳
"Exile Ottawa"
Topical lol
As you cast 3 magma opus in one turn I started hearing the finally of the 1812 overture in my head
Efreet Flamepainter is one of my favourite cards to make some fun decks around. I’m so excited to try this out
I feel like you undervalued Torrent sculptor by a ton. It removes something and fuels your game plan so I think it's miles better than any other single target removal spell in the deck. Game one against werewolves you took it out for abrade and then discarded it when it could have killed their hastey werewolf.
It's sorcery speed sadly, so it isn't great against haste threats, but I do agree it's a solid removal spell for the deck for sure. Fills the graveyard and usually kills the opponents biggest thing.
Sweet deck, but he seems to forget that he can tap his creatures to cast the singularity 😂
I wish to see historic version of this deck.
cool deck idea benn a fan of painter for a while, good to see it get some love
With the puppy war in the background he should have played werewolves......ASMR immersion
You should check out mono black Magic’s mindlink mech video. His combo is less of kill you right now but requires less pieces
One nice [gotcha] thing you can do with this deck is get a flamepainter down with nothing in the yard and if it goes unblocked in response using any instant speed discard effects to get those cards in the yard before the flamepainter trigger. Feels good to see someone reading flamepainter, then mouse over the graveyard to see there is nothing of value to cast and let's the attack through!
On the first game you could have just made tokens with the land to win, they gain haste
Oh, lol. Oops. I totally forgot that the tokens has haste. Good call.
So... How do I make this into pioneer deck?
Going to 3 colors probably not necessary, could play Wildfire Eternal instead of Hinata, could play some number of gearhulks also. Izzet charm obvious way to loot and DDT to round everything up?
I wanna try make a deck list of that, love pioneer and flamepainter…
Hey Seth! Any chance for releasing podcasts a bit earlier for the European listeners? If not, then I fully understand. Love the content!
Seth better known as "Spare me the Ruckus" Olive.
When do we get the commentary for puppy wars?
I wish I had a camera for it, they were really going at it.
Because magma opus creates a treasure on turn 2, I would have put spell Pierce in the main board so you can protect your combo on curve
I kinda think that you should count rares as less than a full rare for purposes of Budget Magic on Arena, simply because you should get the rare lands basically no matter what, you'll probably need them for other decks. A rare that's a combo piece just for one deck hurts, but rare lands that I know I'm gonna need for other decks are fine. The only way that the rare lands really hurt is when you're building your first couple of decks.
Puppy war , was thinking it was a new card effect 😂
This decks looks really fun
It's a blast!
To respond to your comment about lands, budget decks benefit from mana fixing and insane card draw. Treasures, Jaspera Sentinel, Village Rites, Path to the Festival, etc can make sure you get at least one of both colors. Then you just build a deck that avoids double pips.
I've been playing an all in version of this deck, which is faster but HELLA fragile.
If the opponent doesn't do anything it's usually a t6 kill
I've had to mute all emotes since Kamigawa launched. Seems like any time I play any counter or any removal at all, people get so tilted and spam "Your Go" or the sleepy emote for the rest of the game. Like, do you not have removal in your deck either? Get over yourselves.
I disabled emotes years ago. Much more pleasant experience that way.
@@ailexj1118 Then don't play Magic. Control is just as crucial to a healthy meta game as aggro is. Anything else is an outright lie. And also, how am I the monster for using cards that are part of the game? Grow up, or go back to the kitchen table and whine about Cancel in EDH.
@@ailexj1118 Wow. It's just a game, dude, and we're all just playing it. If you think I'm a "toxic person" and an "absolute jerk" for putting Infernal Grasp in my deck, you need therapy. You're taking this game wayyy too seriously, pal.
Finally Flamepainter has its home. :)
14:43 i just don't get why you concede already? could played tapped land and blocked and sweeped board.
Maybe we should have stuck it out for another turn, with our opponent missing land drops it's incredibly likely that they either have another creature to win through a blocker or a removal spell to win through a blocker, but in hindsight I wish I had stuck around one more turn just to make sure.
This was aot of fun to watch.
Nice. This looks like a fun deck.
No faithful mending to loot better?
My favorite location in the Magic universe: Ottawa.
???? Am I the only one confused with not using Faithful Mending in this deck? It seems perfect. Turn 2 Faithful Mending to pitch Singularity, Turn 3 Mech, Turn 4 Painter. Not to mention pairing it with Expressive Iteration gives the deck so much early game card advantage. I feel like it's way better than Unexpected Windfall in this deck.
Yeah, it was kinda weird that he essentially splashed White just for Hinata. Like, it worked out, but I would think that Faithful Mending or Thrilling Discovery would've been good ideas.
The thing I like about Unexpected Windfall is that the two Treasures if we need to hardcast things like Magma Opus/Explosive Singularity. Faithful Mending does seem good in the deck though, it's mostly just a matter of finding room. Maybe it's better than Expressive Iteration?
@@MTGGoldfish That's super fair. Making sure you can hard cast your game winning spells in emergencies makes sense too. The deck looks sweet as always, and it really makes me want to look at any other insane synergies that Mech could do across other formats. I might try to fit Faithful Mending somewhere in the deck, but I love how unique it does feel. It's also sweet to see a card like Flamepainter do amazing things.
That relies on having a lot of things go right (painter and/or mech both surviving, easier said than done in a format filled with Skyclave, Vanishing Verse, Borrowed Time, etc), whereas the ramp from windfall helps with just hardcasting Magma Opus to help stabilize.
This deck is beautiful 😍
Lol at the first opponent spamming the bored hedron emoji when they're playing bog-standard werewolves and you're playing free spell jank tribal with a bunch of new cards.
Sweet deck. Have you seen the calamity bearer combo with mindlink mech? It's pretty sweet
Yeah, Calamity Bearer with Mindlink Mech is a lot of damage for sure.
@@MTGGoldfish beating monored was epic.
Offspring's Revenge meets Startling Jeskai!!! 😆
I realize I'm probably late to the party here, but my suggestion for a deck name for this would be "Jeskai Mechpainter".
I want to see the historic varient too now
Bears going to do what bears do
This desk is as awesome as it's extreme cost would suggest.
I think the opponent attacking with grazilaxx makes sense, because if they whiff with it's draw, then they would have instead just died the next turn to drawing the same card, whereas if they draw a creature/answer then this way they still get to keep the grazilaxx in play.
Mindlink Mech and Scute Swarm
How do you get two singularities in the graveyard for turn 4 28 dmg? I think I’m missing something.
I don't think he does. But you can put in a Thrilling Discovery/Cathartic Pyre, or even better a Sorcerer Class because you get to draw before you discard.
Bring this to historic seth with the mizzix mastery
It's impossible to do 28 on turn 4 though :/
I was trying to find it in the entire video and couldn't... You need to discard 2 cards on turn 2 I believe and this deck doesnt enable that. Cathartic Pyre is a 2 cmc draw 2 discard 2 that would work as well as the UW one.
And this is why izzet is beautiful
videos are going to get longer and longer 10:05 proooo- 25:34 knoowwwwww
LMAO bear do be chewing on anything huh
The deck might be better without Hinata actually, from what we can see from the games.
Much Abrew About Winning Odds is my favourite series from MTGGoldfish. Like if you agree.
Oh yes it's some janky fun
Nice
That poor grazilax opponent
Puppy war ❤
Puppies plural? You got another dog?
Against the Brew...
Say "Efreet Flamepainter" three times fast.
Wish we saw more decks like this on standard queue. I'm sick of Naya runes.
hey hey hey I'm trying to make a video lmao
This deck looks so fun, but too many wildcards. RIP green in standard now that blue and black are getting way too overpowered
Puppies...
Seagate seems like an auto add
I think a copy or two could be good. I've noticed that the channel lands eat into my MDFC slots a bit, just because you can only play so many lands that tap for one color of mana. Sea Gate is probably worth it in this deck though as another big spell to flash back.
Ahem... access tunnel
And to think, in Match 2, if that was the rebalanced Luminarch Aspirant, you would have won.
@32:00 opponent doesn't know how to play magic. Ultra luck keeps his mind in the shadows about his opponent's cards
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Hi!
@@MTGGoldfish I love this deck looks like some good fun before rotation
10 mana " win the game "
Cool deck,needs a better pilot.
I mean, we ended up 3-1.
😂🤣😂
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Welcome!
So many bad deck building choices
Seth, for the love of God, and for your own health, stop being a mouth breather and learn to breathe through the nose.
Sorry, I've still been a bit congested from that spoiler season cold.
Dont take this the wrong way, you face overlay on the video really doesnt add anything to the overall video. I dont come hear to stare at your face I come here to watch and listen to you play games
I disagree. I think Seth's excitement for Magic is infectious, and seeing his face and how he visibly reacts to things only adds to that.
So have you just decided to make no Alchemy content at all? That is really disappointing.
Don't worry, there's Alchemy content upcoming.
@@MTGGoldfish dont support wizards greed
Why make content for a format you can't play in paper?
@@senpaibos2748 There is nothing inherently greedy about making a new format, no-one is forcing you to play it, and the issue you should be upset about is the general predatory economy of Arena, not specifically Alchemy.
Making weird new formats and trying out weird new ideas is exactly the kind of thing we should want WotC to be doing, especially since doing it thru Alchemy means it does not affect paper formats at all.