Putting a team of 4 diamond support players is a recipe for disaster and the gender doesn't even matter here because it doesn't even have a professional integrity because they're going to lose
Achksually, this is exactly how it goes in most sports, including online ones. Men simply excel in these fields and that's okay. Has there ever even been a single female at Worlds?
This is so disgusting. How could they do something so irresponsible? Unbelievable....they hurt the reputation of female players so badly. No wonder they did so badly if they 1. just started playing together as a team 2. Only one of them could play their main role 3. Only one of them was challenger So so so sad to see this even if it's old. I am not surprised that there aren't many female pro players in games after something like this.
But if Girls were good at game then they would simply draft from challenger , it just shows that they are not so there is nobody to play with , the only ones which are "girls" in pro scene still have dick just pretend to be girls.
As much as I'd also love to see that. It's damn near impossible. They'd need to be atleast high rank challenger AND not a one trick pony. They'd also need to prove that they have an understanding of the game and it's integrity, as frankly you can get lucky to climb if you just play. From my knowledge, not many female challys are out there. The ones that are, aren't available or interested and/or not an otp or has a very small champ pool.
@@Marf69Marf69 They would have to make a womens league. Seems women are keen to go into the whole "support" role. Just like how women in real life seems to be over abundant in healthcare and education, especially childrens and teen education.
They were set up to fail. The way their team was assembled, even male players would struggle to go up against well established teams. Would an all female team be able to compete at the highest level, given the same preparation as the male teams? Most likely. But you'll be hardpressed to find enough female players with the drive and experience to do so. The population of female players that play competetivly is just waaaaaay to small.
I don’t feel bad for these girls. They are definitely underprepared. Forming a team with strangers 1 week before such an important match is a recipe for disaster. The opponent team has been practicing together for months/years.
Its basically called being woman. Always something would go wrong. Stop giving them copium. Maybe one key factors of being good is being prepared, did you not consider that?
@@rileyontv2045 there was a female kata OTP in challenger last season. Forgot her name but shes on TH-cam. Im sure there are others too... not every women streams or is on youtube.
I was apart of an all female team that got sponsored but our leader with a silver player and our adc carry was a bronze player, they just had the looks and confidence to utilize talking on camera but realistically didn’t have the patience to keep it together. only two of us actually had diamond skills that wasn’t a support role. Our fill in ended up branching off because she got with a pro player and made her own team called “Siren” which they got publicly destroyed. A lot of really talented female players out there, they just aren’t “hot” or some thin Asian support girl with a squeaky voice. My problem was I was over weight and stuttered but dominate top and jungle and I think the reason good female players don’t get chances in good teams is lack of confidence in themselves to overcome verbal criticism.
Keep in mind that the very few that do have the looks and can play at a high lvl, will just keep streaming because it pays more... like REALLY and dont want to stress about competitive play and being called this or that. I tried to remember some of my own server but they all mostly retired like Selene Reis but there are some still active like Mayumi. it's not lol but Apex legends, it's LuluLuvely, she is a Predator player (quivalent to challenger) that debuted at an invitational and solo killed Cloud9's pro CS team right in front of everyone and became famous to the point she straight up said that she would need to be champion on tournaments to earn more than she was just streaming her ranked games and even events sponsered by EA itself with her as a lead like once she did a hide and seek tournament with 100k as a prize that EA gave her to make any event she wanted, that's how popular she was.
Have you seen some of the male pro players? Let's just say they are not very "generically attractive." Looks only matter to the people that don't actually matter anyways.
Basing a team around attractiveness and not skill almost always ends in disaster. I believe everyone is special and all that matters is what's on the inside. So if I was creating an ESports team, I would turn down a bunch of "supermodel male/females". Stupid stuff like that is why I quit Twitch. Ironic how a gaming streaming platform has many people who prefer "watching streamer sleep" or way worse than that than actually seeing you know...games!
@@anthonyfaiell3263 That’s true, but given men are generally better at esports, there’s little incentive to get viewers to watch females unless they’re attractive; it’s stupid and sad but just how things are.
All supports team can’t work. 4 supports picking a role they barely know and competing in pro plays…Basically suicide. Taking all Women’s team was also a huge mistake, most Women’s I know play only or mostly support, some mid but the majority never touch harder, aggressive roles Like Top, Jungler or Adc. As well picking only women’s drastically reduced her Pool of players available which is probably why She ended taking Diamond players. If She picked men She probably would have been able to get 4 Challengers/Conquerors.
This is a perfect demonstration of why sexism is always stupid and that you don't fight fire with fire: making a team of "only women" instead of "only good players" resulted in a horrible team.
As I didn't play league at that time I just heard the legends and rumors about a women-only team that once existed. Tbh this story is way more heartbreaking than I expected and I feel bad for everyone involved
I doubt those were the best female players, just the most conventionally attractive ones. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being conventionally attractive, but it should not be used as a metric of your skill. The main girl is conventionally attractive, so it seems like she went full misogynist on this one and tried to please the male gaze rather than, y’know, actually putting together a skilled team a long period ahead of time so they actually stood a chance 😂
To be fair, there are very few players on the Russian server, and most of the good ones go to play on euw, because the queues there don’t last 30-60 minutes for high elo. while you are looking for a game in challenger ru, you can go cook something to eat, take a shower and stand in morgana’s Q. What I mean is that in gmt-chal there are simply no girls on our server. they might only be found in mt, and also only supports. The mt game level on the Russian server, by the way, is low diamond euw, again due to the lack of people. So the assumption about attractiveness is of course interesting, but in reality everything is much simpler, we simply do not have high elo players, and especially girls, because there are simply proportionally fewer of them. she gathered those she could find :D
What about guys liking beauty is misogynistic? You realize the definition of misogyny is literally the hatred of women? So how is that misogynistic? Don't just throw buzz words around to appease your intended audience that word has a clear cut definition and has for ages. It doesn't apply here at all.
Well now their concept was more into having the more diamonds played possible, well even if they was diamonds it doesn’t mean they can really connect or be in symbiosis with eachother
@andreaseay1060 If Riot didn't want 5 champs of one role being banned, then it shouldn't be in the game. Lame to punish players for the devs lack of foresight.
@@ExtraDipson Bare in mind this was 2019 Riot, not 2024 Riot. Riot was dealing with allegations of sexism in the work place, so the team was simply a victim of Riot using them as a PR scapegoat to put on a public image of defending women. The guys should of known better and been a little aware of the political climate with the community at the time, if the devs didn't have a spotlight on them they wouldn't of cared, since this was a Russian team playing in the Russian league, something under normal circumstances Riot would of done nothing about, but if they did nothing, Games Journalists would of used it against them because of what was happening at Riot at the time, they needed the good PR to deflect.
I wish if they wanted to do something like this they'd have taken the time to do it properly because seeing more women in pro league would be really nice, if there aren't that many women playing then just take the one that is challenger, even one woman playing is inspirational to us when we don't see ourselves represented. We don't really feel welcome in the community often and people are really rude to us but now people often just use this incident as proof that we will never belong in these spaces and it has done more harm than good :(
I would refuse to play tbh, diamond player = not professional.... and a week is not enough time to learn to communicate properly with randoms that you didnt know before. They did this dirty and I can imagine that people are sexist like crazy about it aswell - like its the girls faulth. They made it so they didnt have a chance. and ONLY support mains? like de fuk?
The problem of sacrificing these girls is much greater then people realize. Women have internal compass of social pressure much greater then men do. Women suffer much more mentaly in situations of public pressure. This is well documented and studied in sociology. Therefore women care about social status in men much more then men do about women status. Conclusion is that their sacrifice could have came to the detriment of mental long term damage these young girls have endured. Just imagine being put in that chair no matter the gender its hard as hell, even for experienced well socialized older person, let alone young women that usually in that period of growing up actually care about public image above all else. So no i wouldnt say this was worth it.
Fr mostly bc any women that goes pro will be "female represantion" so they have more pressure to actually do good bc otherwise it its "women suck" "women aren't that smart" plus lots of sexist comments
@@tobiasfunke8967 why not? as he said no one gave a fuck about russia's league, that team changed it quite a bit also it might have some political reason bc of the women's right in russia
The saying is "There's no such thing as bad publicity." There is a ton of bad marketing. Also, the saying isnt true. Look at all the products and companies that have folded for being publicly called immoral or unsafe.
@@pedronabais1456 "also it might have some political reason bc of the women's right in russia" the russian women have absolutely same rights as any other women around globe in modern capitalistic systems, there are "a lot" of women in govermental positions, the women's rights are same as in USA or UK and by law they are equal to men, for now anyway, we see what will happen with this push for women to go back to kitchens and kids, but back then when the girls compete, there was absolutely no difference to "developed" countries
@@Randald "The saying is "There's no such thing as bad publicity." " and the comentator said "there is no such thing as bad advertising " whats one to do with another? Seems you argue for no other reason than just arguing itself, or everyone has to speak with sayings?
@@filippetrovic845 No, I mean better players. I wouldn't (or do) care if they had been male or female. But you had, for example, literally a mid laner that averaged 5 cs a min...
The ending of "everyone knew who they were" reminded me of that MMO meme: Healer: You are the worst tank I've ever heard of! >:( Tank: Ah, but you've heard of me... ;)
Grandmaster did not exist and nor did emerald. Come on dude. Many pros were diamond 1 back then and if you go back to 2012, one of the mid laners in OGN Champions spring 2012 was gold. The meaning of the ranks has shifted.
Me as a diamond player,can relate to 4 Diamond player's thinking that they could play in pro matches,our Ego's are at the top of the intire server. (I don't think like that myself but sometimes i really think I'm better than 98% of my server, opgg says so, so it's true.)
@@filippetrovic845 what? being an attractive women can get you many things in life but how does being an attractave woman get you to diamond? Lets be honest diamonds would get absolutely crapped on
And if they had won once or twice or even won the league, they would've been called a fluke and said the LCL wasn't made of "real pros". A true no-win scenario.
No they wouldn't have they'd have been praised for doing the impossible when all the odds were against them. You really don't understand the gaming community at all. If your good actually good you get praised for it. When your bad you get shit on. They care about skill not looks. This isn't a beauty pagent.
@@masqueradingod7662 I've been gaming for longer than you've been alive and if you don't think guys are toxic, especially to women in games, then you're wrong. Or you'd have to believe that no woman was ever skilled enough to go pro.
@@Oleoayguys are just supreme to girls in case of gaming. And I have never seen a man being toxic towards a woman in Games. On the contrary, they are very polite.
I've said it before, and I'll say it every time, women aren't missing from the pro scene because none has ever been good enough. They're missing because every time one has been contacted by a scout, any interest was lost when they were revealed to be female. Why? Because pro teams live together, play together for hours at a time every day, and managers are worried a female addition will cause distraction and ruin the delicate balance of teamwork.
It's toxic against female to point out diamond hardstucks can't compete against high challengers? It's like saying it's racist to admit koreans team stomp na and eu teams
Gender has nothing to do with videogames sexist losers in the comments. Like the guy said at the end of the video this was a brilliant marketing move. I hope we get to see more female pro players in the future under better conditions and team environments. This is only the beginning of eSports.
It's not because this team didn't work and moreover, they weren't there that putting a title in the video saying that girls don't have their place in e-sport!
Nothing against female pro players, I would like to see more of that... but my thinking is that this girls ware not prepared for those games at all... I mean teams take months of preparation before, some even play together for years.... this team was formed and thrown into the lions with only 1 week of preparation... the other thing is that the team average rank being diamond in solo queue is a red flag for this level of game play, can still work thought with lots and lots of work.... being challenger player on it's on might not mean anything if that player have bad synergies with the rest of the team
It’s honestly a shame that there aren’t any female players in pro play. I don’t believe they should split genders for it, but an all female tournament would be cool.
There are female players in couple teams, But the problem is that Men are better tan Women at the very most. You can see there is a big gap men vs women on LoL and the good girls(High elo standards) are support, so How to make teams out of this? its just HARD Like in Brazil, You see the Female highlights, most of them are trans woman and not cis woman. There was even Non Binary as highlight. I don't even follow competitive anymore, i feel its waste of time and Unfun. In Brazil they made something called "Cebolão"(Its like CBLOL= Campeonado Brasileiro de League of Legends) And the Fun thing is the fact its Pro players Vs Mono Champion Teams. There were times where Mono champion teams won against Pro players and who were watching went crazy and celebrating
The skill gap between Challenger and Diamond is about as wide as that of Gold and Iron. Put an Gold player up against an Iron player, the Gold player would have twice the cs and 10/0 with tower destroyed by the 10 minute mark, with a 3rd of those K/Os from roaming other lanes after perfectly shoving waves into tower after owning their lane opponent (In all fairness a decent Bronze player can wipe the floor with Iron players, but will lose the match because 1 Bronze player can't carry 4 trolls in Iron - I know, I tried once). Yeah, that's how big the skill gap is and we're only speaking the difference between a single division as opposed to three here. I haven't seen this level of misguided "girlpower" showboating since the days of MLG and PMS Clan for Halo 3, 20 years ago and what happened then was exactly how you'd think it'd play out, not pretty.
Funny how all "the best" female players happen to be rather pretty. They had a small but very dedicated fanbase, dont think they wouldve if the fanbase wasnt male. Publicity was the goal all along, wanna bet she cross referenced rank with looks when scouting? Cuz Id bet my hat she did. Obviously the end result couldve been better,q but I think she actually accomplished what she set out to do.
They had no time to prepare and pickibg up all females witch is like 0, 01% of player base there is 0 chance you pick champion matetial, because the pool is just too small. It's like picking only lefthanded ginger guys with specifiic haircut and no beards. What is the chance there will be 5 of them with a chance to win?
The sad part is, that some will use this to try and argue that men are superior. Really, try drafting a pro team when you're completely bankrupt. But narrow recruitment down to a feature that is a minority. Go for blond hair or blue eyes for example. And you will have just as bad a performance as the all girls team.
I've been saying ironically "Baited and outsmarted" and then "I am a siren" in all chat for YEARS and its depressing how few people get the meme these days
5 support mains as a whole team, that's hilarious. XD Besides 4/5 being diamonds them only having supp mains was a severe handicap too... To be honest playing supp is probably the easiest role( as someone that plays every role). Second easiest is ADC as you are being babied whole game. Mid is in the middle(no pun intended lmao), top is slightly harder only because the lane is longer. Jungle is for sure the hardest and most versatile. If you can play multiple roles but also knows how to supp or jungle it's very usefull knowledge, as you can combine the knowledge of solo playing with being a supportive team player. Like a Midlaner that also know how to play supp is golden- Toplaner that plays jungle is also golden. People who only play one role tend to get severely tunnel visioned by their own personal bias, because they have no idea how the other roles work. It's like the saying "walk a mile in my shoes, then you will understand".
Recipe for disaster really... -1 week notice ,no practise at that elo. -5 support players, atleast the map was warded. -4 diamond players wich is probaly even inflated because literally 80% of diamond support E girls are boosted and wouldnt make it past plat soloQ. They didnt stand a chance, and the knew it.
Embarrising 😮, how could they let a Team of casuls with no turnament expierence walk on stage, uncouched leaded by some1 with even less expierence.. 😢What a stupid muv.
Lol my boyfriend and their team were diamond and had to play against masters and has no chance like wtf… i cant help if i would be put in the jungle too as support main…
btw noone of this girls never picked even diamond like we do u know... they pref stacking in gold-plat all the year long then pick up 1 chellenger boy and 1 yuumi to rich the dia|master in few days. tho. im the russian player and i know real diamond girl players and even more, masters (low masters) riched solo like everyone do. but we are not friends of triana, and we dont live in Moscow - that ware the rules to join Vae
This was horrible PR for women in league, 90% of league fans already think women are inferior in gaming.. so having 5 diamond elo ladies play against all male pro players is an incredible way to reinforce that stereotype.
No matter the gender, putting a team together roughly a week before first match including diamond players is a recipe for disaster
Nah female players just can't compete it's how it is
Putting a team of 4 diamond support players is a recipe for disaster and the gender doesn't even matter here because it doesn't even have a professional integrity because they're going to lose
Achksually, this is exactly how it goes in most sports, including online ones.
Men simply excel in these fields and that's okay. Has there ever even been a single female at Worlds?
Putting a team of top 10 challengers of appropriate roles together a week before is a recipe for disaster
nah, women just suck at gaming, thats all.
Imagine being a diamond female who plays league casually , then u get drafted to play in LCK
maybe we can see a 10min game
I don't know any diamond players tht play casually lol
Being diamond requires great time and effort.
@@Cherry-pu4mx I mean not if you are getting carried Lol
@@Cherry-pu4mx its easy to get unless you are dumbb
LCL not LCK lmao
This is so disgusting. How could they do something so irresponsible? Unbelievable....they hurt the reputation of female players so badly. No wonder they did so badly if they 1. just started playing together as a team 2. Only one of them could play their main role 3. Only one of them was challenger
So so so sad to see this even if it's old. I am not surprised that there aren't many female pro players in games after something like this.
But if Girls were good at game then they would simply draft from challenger , it just shows that they are not so there is nobody to play with , the only ones which are "girls" in pro scene still have dick just pretend to be girls.
There arent many because they cant play. Simple
In reality I’d love to see more women in LoL esports but not ones who are diamond and drafted a week before they are due to play!
As much as I'd also love to see that. It's damn near impossible. They'd need to be atleast high rank challenger AND not a one trick pony. They'd also need to prove that they have an understanding of the game and it's integrity, as frankly you can get lucky to climb if you just play. From my knowledge, not many female challys are out there. The ones that are, aren't available or interested and/or not an otp or has a very small champ pool.
only if they have the actual skill would make 0 sense otherwise
@@Marf69Marf69potato
@@Marf69Marf69 They would have to make a womens league. Seems women are keen to go into the whole "support" role. Just like how women in real life seems to be over abundant in healthcare and education, especially childrens and teen education.
okay but there is no female challengers and IF there is it would be one tricks, no one tricks can compete in esports
still alot of respect to the girls for not giving up after devastating losses over and over again.
That is by far the most impressive part. Very strong ladies. I hope they didn't take the whole event too seriously.
they probably signed a contract but if not I agree
Except for the one who couldn't resist the pressure and told her teammates to kill themselves.
They were set up to fail. The way their team was assembled, even male players would struggle to go up against well established teams.
Would an all female team be able to compete at the highest level, given the same preparation as the male teams?
Most likely.
But you'll be hardpressed to find enough female players with the drive and experience to do so.
The population of female players that play competetivly is just waaaaaay to small.
I don’t feel bad for these girls. They are definitely underprepared. Forming a team with strangers 1 week before such an important match is a recipe for disaster. The opponent team has been practicing together for months/years.
Its basically called being woman. Always something would go wrong. Stop giving them copium.
Maybe one key factors of being good is being prepared, did you not consider that?
Actually want to see a full female roster with challenger players
I only know that in euw there is no challenger girl at the moment. Last season there was one I believe though
They dont exist lol.
Thats not true ... there even was one 32 year old women in challenger with a fultime job, husband and 6 cats and only 3 hours playtime a day.
@@LaioniMuwai ....... like i said last year, she also hasnt been chall since then, stuck in masters. it's not flame just facts.
@@rileyontv2045 there was a female kata OTP in challenger last season. Forgot her name but shes on TH-cam.
Im sure there are others too... not every women streams or is on youtube.
It’s just a publicity stunt. They aren’t good players (compared to the league they played).
I was apart of an all female team that got sponsored but our leader with a silver player and our adc carry was a bronze player, they just had the looks and confidence to utilize talking on camera but realistically didn’t have the patience to keep it together. only two of us actually had diamond skills that wasn’t a support role. Our fill in ended up branching off because she got with a pro player and made her own team called “Siren” which they got publicly destroyed. A lot of really talented female players out there, they just aren’t “hot” or some thin Asian support girl with a squeaky voice. My problem was I was over weight and stuttered but dominate top and jungle and I think the reason good female players don’t get chances in good teams is lack of confidence in themselves to overcome verbal criticism.
Keep in mind that the very few that do have the looks and can play at a high lvl, will just keep streaming because it pays more... like REALLY and dont want to stress about competitive play and being called this or that.
I tried to remember some of my own server but they all mostly retired like Selene Reis but there are some still active like Mayumi.
it's not lol but Apex legends, it's LuluLuvely, she is a Predator player (quivalent to challenger) that debuted at an invitational and solo killed Cloud9's pro CS team right in front of everyone and became famous to the point she straight up said that she would need to be champion on tournaments to earn more than she was just streaming her ranked games and even events sponsered by EA itself with her as a lead like once she did a hide and seek tournament with 100k as a prize that EA gave her to make any event she wanted, that's how popular she was.
i mean yall know they are way worse than males
if not for looks whats the point lmao?
Have you seen some of the male pro players? Let's just say they are not very "generically attractive." Looks only matter to the people that don't actually matter anyways.
Basing a team around attractiveness and not skill almost always ends in disaster. I believe everyone is special and all that matters is what's on the inside. So if I was creating an ESports team, I would turn down a bunch of "supermodel male/females".
Stupid stuff like that is why I quit Twitch. Ironic how a gaming streaming platform has many people who prefer "watching streamer sleep" or way worse than that than actually seeing you know...games!
@@anthonyfaiell3263 That’s true, but given men are generally better at esports, there’s little incentive to get viewers to watch females unless they’re attractive; it’s stupid and sad but just how things are.
I was kinda hoping this'd be about the og
Team SIREN
So bad they didnt even play a real pro game before disbanding. The team que game against hotshot+friends killed them.
Looks like you were baited and outsmarted.
So they where litteraly 4 diamnd supp mains... they had no chanche😂.
Gender had nothing to do with it tho
they must have no chanche at all!
All supports team can’t work. 4 supports picking a role they barely know and competing in pro plays…Basically suicide.
Taking all Women’s team was also a huge mistake, most Women’s I know play only or mostly support, some mid but the majority never touch harder, aggressive roles Like Top, Jungler or Adc.
As well picking only women’s drastically reduced her Pool of players available which is probably why She ended taking Diamond players.
If She picked men She probably would have been able to get 4 Challengers/Conquerors.
This is a perfect demonstration of why sexism is always stupid and that you don't fight fire with fire: making a team of "only women" instead of "only good players" resulted in a horrible team.
There is no sexism. This is good for stuying gender differences. How else would you be sure woman cant ever make a good team.
@@filippetrovic845 Refusing players because they are male is not sexism?
As I didn't play league at that time I just heard the legends and rumors about a women-only team that once existed. Tbh this story is way more heartbreaking than I expected and I feel bad for everyone involved
it was unfair, because the ladies never had the right training
Mf what about the second tournament they had training and still shit
I doubt those were the best female players, just the most conventionally attractive ones. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being conventionally attractive, but it should not be used as a metric of your skill. The main girl is conventionally attractive, so it seems like she went full misogynist on this one and tried to please the male gaze rather than, y’know, actually putting together a skilled team a long period ahead of time so they actually stood a chance 😂
To be fair, there are very few players on the Russian server, and most of the good ones go to play on euw, because the queues there don’t last 30-60 minutes for high elo. while you are looking for a game in challenger ru, you can go cook something to eat, take a shower and stand in morgana’s Q. What I mean is that in gmt-chal there are simply no girls on our server. they might only be found in mt, and also only supports. The mt game level on the Russian server, by the way, is low diamond euw, again due to the lack of people. So the assumption about attractiveness is of course interesting, but in reality everything is much simpler, we simply do not have high elo players, and especially girls, because there are simply proportionally fewer of them. she gathered those she could find :D
What about guys liking beauty is misogynistic? You realize the definition of misogyny is literally the hatred of women? So how is that misogynistic? Don't just throw buzz words around to appease your intended audience that word has a clear cut definition and has for ages. It doesn't apply here at all.
It’s a kind of beauty privilege and also it’s have always been like this on general with a lot of company
Well now their concept was more into having the more diamonds played possible, well even if they was diamonds it doesn’t mean they can really connect or be in symbiosis with eachother
Riot issuing punishments for that one team banning all supports was so dumb.
They did? Wow
It seemed sexist up until I heard vavictus was all support mains.
@andreaseay1060 If Riot didn't want 5 champs of one role being banned, then it shouldn't be in the game. Lame to punish players for the devs lack of foresight.
@@ExtraDipson Bare in mind this was 2019 Riot, not 2024 Riot. Riot was dealing with allegations of sexism in the work place, so the team was simply a victim of Riot using them as a PR scapegoat to put on a public image of defending women. The guys should of known better and been a little aware of the political climate with the community at the time, if the devs didn't have a spotlight on them they wouldn't of cared, since this was a Russian team playing in the Russian league, something under normal circumstances Riot would of done nothing about, but if they did nothing, Games Journalists would of used it against them because of what was happening at Riot at the time, they needed the good PR to deflect.
@@andreaseay1060 How can banning phase be sexist. Its a strategic part of the game. Are there rules on which champs you can or cant ban? crazy
I got same problem when i try to go 5 man flex with 4 support main
But women dont have anything better to offer.
@@filippetrovic845 you seem butthurt
already know all about it but i really want to see you go viral
Sounds like they sacrificed their dignity and integrity to keep a corporation alive...and for what reason?
I wish if they wanted to do something like this they'd have taken the time to do it properly because seeing more women in pro league would be really nice, if there aren't that many women playing then just take the one that is challenger, even one woman playing is inspirational to us when we don't see ourselves represented. We don't really feel welcome in the community often and people are really rude to us but now people often just use this incident as proof that we will never belong in these spaces and it has done more harm than good :(
I would refuse to play tbh, diamond player = not professional.... and a week is not enough time to learn to communicate properly with randoms that you didnt know before.
They did this dirty and I can imagine that people are sexist like crazy about it aswell - like its the girls faulth.
They made it so they didnt have a chance.
and ONLY support mains? like de fuk?
The boosting ad is crazy LOL
fr
The problem of sacrificing these girls is much greater then people realize. Women have internal compass of social pressure much greater then men do. Women suffer much more mentaly in situations of public pressure. This is well documented and studied in sociology. Therefore women care about social status in men much more then men do about women status. Conclusion is that their sacrifice could have came to the detriment of mental long term damage these young girls have endured. Just imagine being put in that chair no matter the gender its hard as hell, even for experienced well socialized older person, let alone young women that usually in that period of growing up actually care about public image above all else. So no i wouldnt say this was worth it.
Fr mostly bc any women that goes pro will be "female represantion" so they have more pressure to actually do good bc otherwise it its "women suck" "women aren't that smart" plus lots of sexist comments
they are all support mains who only played together for less than a week. They probably don't even know how to farm
they where good at being bad, genius marketing, there is no such thing as bad advertising
Doesnt make sense in this situation but ok.
@@tobiasfunke8967 why not? as he said no one gave a fuck about russia's league, that team changed it quite a bit
also it might have some political reason bc of the women's right in russia
The saying is "There's no such thing as bad publicity." There is a ton of bad marketing. Also, the saying isnt true. Look at all the products and companies that have folded for being publicly called immoral or unsafe.
@@pedronabais1456 "also it might have some political reason bc of the women's right in russia" the russian women have absolutely same rights as any other women around globe in modern capitalistic systems, there are "a lot" of women in govermental positions, the women's rights are same as in USA or UK and by law they are equal to men, for now anyway, we see what will happen with this push for women to go back to kitchens and kids, but back then when the girls compete, there was absolutely no difference to "developed" countries
@@Randald "The saying is "There's no such thing as bad publicity." " and the comentator said "there is no such thing as bad advertising " whats one to do with another? Seems you argue for no other reason than just arguing itself, or everyone has to speak with sayings?
Beautiful documentary, looking forward for more
It was always so annoying to me that Big Riot always protected Vaevictis instead of forcing them to get better players.
why would they? no amount of money would buy them same level advertisement, im sure it was made deal
Haha better players, you mean male players?
@@filippetrovic845 No, I mean better players. I wouldn't (or do) care if they had been male or female. But you had, for example, literally a mid laner that averaged 5 cs a min...
Yes it might have saved the esports team, but we (female league players) have to suffer the consequences now.
5 support mains should be the red flag lol.
The ending of "everyone knew who they were" reminded me of that MMO meme:
Healer: You are the worst tank I've ever heard of! >:(
Tank: Ah, but you've heard of me... ;)
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Grandmaster did not exist and nor did emerald. Come on dude. Many pros were diamond 1 back then and if you go back to 2012, one of the mid laners in OGN Champions spring 2012 was gold. The meaning of the ranks has shifted.
no many pros were not diamond in 2019. List even a single one who was diamond 1 in 2019
Buddy... this didn't happen in 2012 you simp.
it doesnt realy matter, im sure it was paid stunt, they didnt need girls at pro level
2012 the game was in it's infancy, it's literally incomparable...
@@greensabr200They wrote 2012 and not 2019! 😂😂😂
You have literally no reading comprehension. 🙄🙄🙄
Valve>Riot.. warning teams for banning only support.? Wtf
Me as a diamond player,can relate to 4 Diamond player's thinking that they could play in pro matches,our Ego's are at the top of the intire server. (I don't think like that myself but sometimes i really think I'm better than 98% of my server, opgg says so, so it's true.)
Diamonds could easily make a killer team. But not women.
@@filippetrovic845 what? being an attractive women can get you many things in life but how does being an attractave woman get you to diamond? Lets be honest diamonds would get absolutely crapped on
And if they had won once or twice or even won the league, they would've been called a fluke and said the LCL wasn't made of "real pros". A true no-win scenario.
No they wouldn't have they'd have been praised for doing the impossible when all the odds were against them. You really don't understand the gaming community at all. If your good actually good you get praised for it. When your bad you get shit on. They care about skill not looks. This isn't a beauty pagent.
@@masqueradingod7662 I've been gaming for longer than you've been alive and if you don't think guys are toxic, especially to women in games, then you're wrong. Or you'd have to believe that no woman was ever skilled enough to go pro.
@@Oleoay Women are just as toxic. This is a human problem not a male vs female one
@@Oleoayguys are just supreme to girls in case of gaming. And I have never seen a man being toxic towards a woman in Games. On the contrary, they are very polite.
@@michal.mateja interesting way to say you don’t have a girlfriend without saying you don’t have a girlfriend
I've said it before, and I'll say it every time, women aren't missing from the pro scene because none has ever been good enough. They're missing because every time one has been contacted by a scout, any interest was lost when they were revealed to be female. Why? Because pro teams live together, play together for hours at a time every day, and managers are worried a female addition will cause distraction and ruin the delicate balance of teamwork.
That ending was insane lol 💀 I was certain you would just be toxic against females but this was surprisingly nuanced
It's toxic against female to point out diamond hardstucks can't compete against high challengers? It's like saying it's racist to admit koreans team stomp na and eu teams
Women suck at league
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@@LegendofPoro wtf no way :DD
They will never play league again
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Gender has nothing to do with videogames sexist losers in the comments. Like the guy said at the end of the video this was a brilliant marketing move. I hope we get to see more female pro players in the future under better conditions and team environments. This is only the beginning of eSports.
Gender indeed got something to do with it, like it or not
Delusional white knight cannot accept that the median level of gameplay is higher for men than for women 😭
@@Rocka7038funnily enough, there is already a female league player with a worlds trophy. But nobody talks about her.
@@crudojoshuaricofort8795 out of how many players is a female player?
You’re coping hard. Esports and sports has everything to do with gender. Men dominate both. It is what it is
It's not because this team didn't work and moreover, they weren't there that putting a title in the video saying that girls don't have their place in e-sport!
8:47 no wonder they lost Noone holds their mouse like that lol 😂
Can't we have mixed teams? Like, even if there are only 1 good female player in the world, can't they be in a pro league team with other males?
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well well... what do you expect? 5 supports e-girls in Diamond... meaning they real elo is somewhat around silver in solo lane
Nothing against female pro players, I would like to see more of that... but my thinking is that this girls ware not prepared for those games at all... I mean teams take months of preparation before, some even play together for years.... this team was formed and thrown into the lions with only 1 week of preparation... the other thing is that the team average rank being diamond in solo queue is a red flag for this level of game play, can still work thought with lots and lots of work.... being challenger player on it's on might not mean anything if that player have bad synergies with the rest of the team
Gambit, later M5, was from Russia and was pretty popular the world over if i remember correctly.
But if they are all support mains, why cant the bans be all support bans?
Because Riot is a woke sexist company
It’s honestly a shame that there aren’t any female players in pro play. I don’t believe they should split genders for it, but an all female tournament would be cool.
There are female players in couple teams, But the problem is that Men are better tan Women at the very most.
You can see there is a big gap men vs women on LoL and the good girls(High elo standards) are support, so How to make teams out of this? its just HARD
Like in Brazil, You see the Female highlights, most of them are trans woman and not cis woman. There was even Non Binary as highlight.
I don't even follow competitive anymore, i feel its waste of time and Unfun.
In Brazil they made something called "Cebolão"(Its like CBLOL= Campeonado Brasileiro de League of Legends) And the Fun thing is the fact its Pro players Vs Mono Champion Teams.
There were times where Mono champion teams won against Pro players and who were watching went crazy and celebrating
there are no female players in pro play because women suck at sports, both regular and esports.
bro they split it for a reason,one of the reasons is this video,females cannot compete with most male teams it just can't happen accept the truth
They didn't do any team building like going to the gun range, like psyren
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The skill gap between Challenger and Diamond is about as wide as that of Gold and Iron. Put an Gold player up against an Iron player, the Gold player would have twice the cs and 10/0 with tower destroyed by the 10 minute mark, with a 3rd of those K/Os from roaming other lanes after perfectly shoving waves into tower after owning their lane opponent (In all fairness a decent Bronze player can wipe the floor with Iron players, but will lose the match because 1 Bronze player can't carry 4 trolls in Iron - I know, I tried once). Yeah, that's how big the skill gap is and we're only speaking the difference between a single division as opposed to three here. I haven't seen this level of misguided "girlpower" showboating since the days of MLG and PMS Clan for Halo 3, 20 years ago and what happened then was exactly how you'd think it'd play out, not pretty.
3k gold down at 7 minutes is absolutely wild. Were they even farming? Like how does that happen in pro play?
smooth transition to the ad
tbh tho they were 5 support mains 5 SUPPORT MAINS ffs their loss was destined TwT
Funny how all "the best" female players happen to be rather pretty.
They had a small but very dedicated fanbase, dont think they wouldve if the fanbase wasnt male.
Publicity was the goal all along, wanna bet she cross referenced rank with looks when scouting?
Cuz Id bet my hat she did.
Obviously the end result couldve been better,q but I think she actually accomplished what she set out to do.
They had no time to prepare and pickibg up all females witch is like 0, 01% of player base there is 0 chance you pick champion matetial, because the pool is just too small.
It's like picking only lefthanded ginger guys with specifiic haircut and no beards.
What is the chance there will be 5 of them with a chance to win?
Here just to say that if you play a game vs Bot it takes at least 15 min
The sad part is, that some will use this to try and argue that men are superior.
Really, try drafting a pro team when you're completely bankrupt. But narrow recruitment down to a feature that is a minority. Go for blond hair or blue eyes for example. And you will have just as bad a performance as the all girls team.
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Nah they suck ass
I've been saying ironically "Baited and outsmarted" and then "I am a siren" in all chat for YEARS and its depressing how few people get the meme these days
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5 support mains as a whole team, that's hilarious. XD Besides 4/5 being diamonds them only having supp mains was a severe handicap too... To be honest playing supp is probably the easiest role( as someone that plays every role). Second easiest is ADC as you are being babied whole game. Mid is in the middle(no pun intended lmao), top is slightly harder only because the lane is longer. Jungle is for sure the hardest and most versatile. If you can play multiple roles but also knows how to supp or jungle it's very usefull knowledge, as you can combine the knowledge of solo playing with being a supportive team player. Like a Midlaner that also know how to play supp is golden- Toplaner that plays jungle is also golden. People who only play one role tend to get severely tunnel visioned by their own personal bias, because they have no idea how the other roles work. It's like the saying "walk a mile in my shoes, then you will understand".
Recipe for disaster really...
-1 week notice ,no practise at that elo.
-5 support players, atleast the map was warded.
-4 diamond players wich is probaly even inflated because literally 80% of diamond support E girls are boosted and wouldnt make it past plat soloQ.
They didnt stand a chance, and the knew it.
I wanna see females in esports, but not a gimmicky all female team. Like a 1-3 that actually deserve to be on a roster slot
Wow, my homeland can be proud of some achievements in the League of Legends.
I'm diamond as well, and ppl in diamond r extremely bad players in general, i see nothing fair here.
Rox getting penalized for picking 5 support bans is wild.
Why DEI doesn’t work 🤣
Didnt they learn from the Sirens team?
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I feel bad for them. Their performance was practically incel fuel for an already horribly toxic community
Vaevictus was made possible by delulu femceIs
One day, there will be a good female pro player. One day
"For the first time, people all over the world were talking about a russian team"
What happened to the dominant Moscow5 talk? Was that all a dream?
why not just playing as a girl in a male team... could be nice to see a "good girl player" in League Competition.
I could be so proud !
This went so bad that it made me sad for them
Embarrising 😮, how could they let a Team of casuls with no turnament expierence walk on stage, uncouched leaded by some1 with even less expierence.. 😢What a stupid muv.
Lol my boyfriend and their team were diamond and had to play against masters and has no chance like wtf… i cant help if i would be put in the jungle too as support main…
if she did that with an intention of getting talked about well it was an genius idea
btw noone of this girls never picked even diamond like we do u know... they pref stacking in gold-plat all the year long then pick up 1 chellenger boy and 1 yuumi to rich the dia|master in few days. tho. im the russian player and i know real diamond girl players and even more, masters (low masters) riched solo like everyone do. but we are not friends of triana, and we dont live in Moscow - that ware the rules to join Vae
she should've used tapin
All support mains.. Dear God. 🤦🏼♀️
😭as a guy who plays support. Having even 3 supports on your team is already bad enough.
But FIVE? In an official tournament? Lmao
This was horrible PR for women in league, 90% of league fans already think women are inferior in gaming.. so having 5 diamond elo ladies play against all male pro players is an incredible way to reinforce that stereotype.
Well they are. Just because you choose the word inferior to make it sound dehumanizing doesnt change the fact that there are no female pro players
They couldn't play their 5 support main.
8:47 , watch closely how is she holding the mouse
You all forgot team siren lol
Almost shed a tear in the end, ngl
i kinda feel you bro. yin yang type
Erm sir? I wanna know if they went bankrupt or no.
Am I the only on who wants to see vaevictus vs. current T1 roster😂