Who Makes America's Semi-Trucks
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- Trucks play an integral role in American business and life. About 39 million registered trucks move nearly three-quarters of all freight by weight, grossing about $875 billion in revenue. Four manufacturers dominate the market, but Daimler Trucks, holds about 40% of the total market share largely because of its Freightliner brand. These companies are mass producers of custom vehicles. Freightliner’s paint catalog, for example, has more than 3,000 shades of the color white. But the business is changing, as upstarts boldly promise to deliver electric semitrucks and autonomous driving systems. But some industry analysts say that currently there is not a clear business model for a lot of these innovations.
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Who Makes America's Semi-Trucks
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Stupid bots
Freight liner holds a larger share of the semi market because they are usually much cheaper and fleet owners buy them as a result
the daimler group owns mercedes-benz, smart car, freightliner, and a lot of other companies
Freightliners are rebranded Mercedes Benz Actros. They both use the same engine eletronics. For example om471(DD13) om472(DD15) and om473(DD16)
With the low cost of freightliner, are they an inferior truck to other brands?
@@charlesking4843 well, ever since Peterbilt stop using Cummins engines. I don't think so. Most manufacturers nowadays are going with their own engine.
@@LBZDreamer Peterbilt still sells trucks with Cummins engines.
Makes me happy seeing the trucking industry get more of a public spotlight. As opposed to those of us who actually drive on a daily basis knowing all the ins and outs, now the general public has a snapshot of the industry. No matter how it goes, if you bought it, a truck bought it. Yes even the water you drink had a truck involved at some point, delivering the materials to purify and soften it.
So what do you think about the Tesla semi?
@@TheBooban to me, it has its place.. saw that test run from the Bay Area to San Diego and that’s a perfect use for it, I can see it for short hauls since the range covers that distance. That or local work such as moving containers from the ports to the inland warehouses and back. It’s got potential for select parts of the industry in my view and from my experience. I’d take up running a Tesla from Long Beach to Riverside and back 🙋🏻♂️
I wonder if California would ban new non electric trucks like they will automobiles in 2035?
It is a zero skill manual labor job, notice skilled as in any trade does not apply.
@@soisaidtogod4248 zero skill? I’m not a truck driver but am a forklift technician. I’ve seen drivers with zero skill and they are horrible but I’ve also seen drivers that can make maneuvers with so much ease it makes it look easy.
Also have you seen most people back up a trailer? They fail horribly specially in the beginning so how is that not a skill?
As a retired UAW worker I was surprised by the lack of robots. I don't know how good the Tesla semis will be, but I bet their factory will have a lot of robots. I am not a fan of robots but I know if you don't have them and the other guy does, you're out of business.
Tesla uses tons of human robots.
Humans will do certain things a lot better than Robots, Love UAW love my big three.
You need to achieve a certain volume for robots to make sense. They are a several million-dollar investments per bot and need to be replaced every decade. If it isn't replacing 10 people, it's not worth it.
Well don't know if Tesla uses more or less robots, but their cars are assembled extremely shoddily.... panel fit is the worst of any car out there....
i think the fact that each truck is customized to the customer needs means that robots will be less effective than humans,, look at luxury car makers like rolls royce for instance
Where did they get the $150,000 price for a truck from. How about that's a used price. Every damn new truck I've come across was definitely above 200k on the cheap end.
Simple, all you gotta be is a large shipping company and buy trucks a 100 at a time.
Truck Drivers:" We demand raises!!!" Truck Carriers:"You want a Beer?"
Truck drivers are way under paid the freight rates are the same from the 80’s but triple the cost to operate
@@waynemanm
Really?
I used to ship pick up trucks, and conversion vans across the country in the 1980's, 3 at a time for 15 to 22 cents a mile.
My grandson just ship 1 2019 Dodge Charger, and it was $6.00 a mile.
I would say freight has gone up quite a lot!
@@bennyboogenheimer4553 You're also not in the same market segment as a semi. You're at best a hot shot driver. And comparing one hot load to the broader average doesn't help your argument. There are good paying loads out there even now, but they are like a needle in a haystack the size of Nebraska.
@@Urziel99
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You're right these things run on kitten whiskers, and rainbow dreams! No tolls, and No Dot Scales. lol!
Now go sit down, and speak only when you're spoken too.
@@waynemanm BULL SH*T.
Check out Edison Motors in Alberta Canada. They have an interim solution with a diesel - electric build. Works similar to a locomotive. Runs the diesel engine as needed in the optimal power band to charge onboard batteries, which drive electric motors at the wheels. Uses regenerative braking just like current hybrid and electric vehicles. No charging stations needed. Uses less diesel per mile.
that's just a hybrid then
@@a-don13 Not exactly. A hybrid has an ICE and electric drive train, whereas that's more of a range extended EV because it has a purely electrical drivetrain with the motor just to charge up the battery
@@vetboy627 That's called a series hybrid.
Ya, seen his YT vid. Seems the best option for long hauls. Too much time would be lost charging or you may need something like a pony express set up. Drive to point to exchange truck. Too expensive though.
The only reason why this might be more fuel efficient is because they're using it in a mountainous region. Cruising down a (relatively) flat highway with this system would almost certainly be less efficient.
Fun thing about battery electrics is that it only takes about 12 superchargers before you start getting into the neighborhood of “being able to power light rail”. I can’t imagine trucking being worth going battery electric given the grid capacity. Since trucks are bigger and will need larger capacity, there will come a point where putting wires over the railways would be the cheaper option. Hell even putting wires over the highways would be cheaper.
if you are talking yard dogs, maybe, but then you could also use hydrogen in small f4lleet, low range demand just as easily.
Bill gates got scolded for your similar statement,he got proven wrong apparently
That sounds like a good reason to expand the railroad system haha 😄
@@USAjudo it will take Billions upon Billions of dollars to make that happen,I remember reading an Article where Warren Buffet spending 500 Billion Dollars on his Own Cargo Locomotives and his own Railtracks to transport his Goods from his Companies
@@magallon643 It's a good thing the government and freight railroad companies have billions and billions of dollars to spend to make it happen
What a nice story where we can all be proud of this American made Freightliner! It’s funny how the Freightliner i own says Hecho in Mexico on every single part but don’t let that get in the way of the narrative
i drove solo for C.R England in 2017 and my truck was a 2016 Freightliner. it was a good truck, the only thing that sucked about it was it was very bare bones. didnt have a fridge or a proper power inverter set up in it so living out of it for 6 months straight was tough.
Well that a CR England 😂😂😂😂
Well ya a majority of mega carriers get their trucks that way.
You’re suppose to buy your own fridge and microwave/toaster oven companies like England and prime Inc definitely will not offer that perk, I think it would have to be a custom order from
The factory itself not sure
Try living in a 90 inch single bunk
Peterbilt Cabover
@@emmanuelmartinez5588 Prime's freightliners don't have the fridge, but leave that space open to put in your own, seen people with 4 cubic foot dorm room fridges in there. Their Peterbilt's come with a factory fridge and both have an inverter installed.
It is interesting how the American market for trucks is completely different from the Brazilian market. Here we only have European manufacturers like DAF, Scania, Mercedes and Volkswagen. The only company in the video that has operations here is Volvo.
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We had rolling brown outs in Tennessee last week due to cold weather. If the power grid is not expanded we all can except this as a norm in the future.
Flagship factory ? Cleveland? The Freightliner plant that produces the most Cascadia semi trucks it’s located in Mexico… specifically the Saltillo plant
Can confirm.
Apparently you don't understand the meaning of "flagship".
@@UhYeahWhateverDude i do, and I’ve been working in both plants, for the past 6 years. So i do know a thing or two.
Honestly, they probably just say that because it sounds good.
Every day I drive an 8 axle/106,000 lb truck and I don't see how they could convert it to be electric, that would add another 16k for the batteries. They would have to add 2 more axles and that alone would increase the weight
Finally a video talking about this industry, as a Diesel technician, I have to say that Freightliner still a well and reliable know truck but sadly other companies are catching up slowly, let’s take Volvo for example, in a decade Volvo has made a name in this industry with their trucks, Volvo trucks unlike Freightliner are more comfortable to drive and have a better technology inside the cabin, even few owner operators think Freightliner is falling behind them. Let’s hope this industry keeps evolving and about electric trucks we are still in a long way to get a 1000 miles range, but eventually when batteries technology moves even faster it is now, we will start to see more electric over the road.
Volvo trucks made its name in the rest of the world over 40 years ago.
@@OurnameisLegion66 I know but here in the USA, people did not have faith on their trucks back in 2008 -2009 when they still used Detroit s60 on their trucks, when Volvo D13 engine appeared, then many thought would be a bad move from Volvo, but now in 2023 many drivers like their Volvo and with a good reason.
Good to note that electric semis have a weight limit of 82,000 lbs (+2k over traditional). Not a massive difference, but worth knowing when running numbers.
Good luck road infrastructure.
Semi trucks are already wrecking balls that crumble roads. Now they’re going to add an extra car/trucks worth of weight.
@@armyofsporks1 You say that but really its not gonna do much more damage to the road infrastructure than what is being done now. The question is, would you rather pay a tax to have roads maintained and risk big trucks damage them or drive miles just to get a gallon of milk because the farmer cant ship his product to the grocery store?
yeah I caught that too e semis have a exemption for that extra 2k lbs
@@armyofsporks1 Redesign how many wheels and axels they have to reduce ground pressure per wheel.
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If all trucks were equally dependent and reliable, I would get myself a volvo truck. That thing rides, turns, brakes nicely
It’s pretty much a diesel Tesla
They're too heavy, uncomfortable as hell for taller driver and the downtimes are much longer than say a Freightliner. Other than that I agree with you.
"Old Tuckers don't die, they just get a new Peterbilt"
At 9:43, voiceover says < 300 miles, but video shows >300 miles.
I got to say that the day people feel comfortable flying in a plane with no pilots at all then people could think of full autonomous trucks. there is always the need of a human supervising everything
I'm British and CNBC is one of my favourite American news channels
DAF is Paccard.
Almost the same issues ...
This is global news, all trucks, only Tesla ?
@@lucasrem only European brand owned by a US Company
Why does this look like a corporate AV for Daimler/Freightliners ?
If emissions are such a concern, why not invest more I to rail? Way more efficient than trucks
Do you want to cross/wait at 3 RR crossings on your way to your local grocery store?
The rails don't run behind every walmart or department store. Haha
@@user-wj6kq3xw2g they’re talking about long haul freight. For last mile delivery, I think trucks are still useful.
Anyone who mentions trains as a solution doesn't really understand the freight hauling business in the U.S. nor how difficult it is to build, let alone get the land rights to lay, new rail line. Everyone hates eminent domain takeovers by the government. That's what it would take to get something built that could compete with the speed of moving freight with trucks. Trains are used today, for sure, but only where it makes sense from a speed and cost point of view
@@wheeljawk Ok , it is difficult to get land and build new rail lines in USA. Why ? Is it easy to get land and cheap to build multilane highways ? Is the diesel cheap as sea water and truck drivers work for nothing ?
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why u gotta say ur jewish?
There’s some misleading facts in this video. 80k pounds is for an ICE truck and 82k is for an EV truck they gain some extra weight to offset the battery weight. Batteries are heavy and I’m sure some are 16k pounds, but they leave out the weight of the diesel engine, transmission, driveshafts, exhaust, oil and fuel that are being replaced so how much is the net weight difference?
Thats like 6,000 lbs plus u get 2000 more. So this is like 8,000 lbs difference.
This definitely won't be a easy transition to EV.
@mr fantastic 2000 homes isn't a city.
A single latest and cheapest per kWh wind turbine produce enough electricity for 13,000 homes.
One complete rotation of that type of wind turbine produces enough energy for 2 Tesla model Y to fully charge.
6 rotations produces enough energy to fully charge a 500 miles Tesla semi.
It's not going to happen, trains, semi trucks and jumbo jets require such an incredible amount of energy to even do their average every day utility.... it can't be done with any battery technology we use today. The only reason it works for cars is because the cargo is often one or two people. That's only 200-400 pounds or 1,000 pounds for two Americans. Not 80,000 pounds who have to make 500 miles a day. Or a jet which needs to burn hundreds of pounds of fuel just to get into the air, AND be as light as possible.
The comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Everyone thinks they are so smart.
@@beng4647 the problem is legislators who think they're smart. Any average electrician or mechanic can poke a million holes into stupid mandates which are designed to look like something is getting done...its not lol
@mr fantastic No issue, the industry is used to large suppliers. If Pepsi will manage it now, we all are able to do this in the coming years.
Diesel mechanic of 20 years. Good luck trying to find mechanics who will want to join this field and fix these trucks. We have had a shortage since 2008-2010 when the cranky boomers retired. Freightliners are the Kia of cars.
Exactly. I just got hired at velocity trucks and start next month. I'm only 18 years old and moving on from commercial refrigeration to being a apprentice. They both pay the same so let's see how it goes.
ive been driing these trucks fir 25 years and freightliner is still the benchmark. I rather drive one of those over all the other brands for a variety of reasons. My company bought 5000 volvos and the drivers and mechanics couldnt be more irritated by the move.
I wouldn't trust muskrat to blow his own nose without crapping his pants at the same time
I did an truck driver study for CalTrans. Truckers, I appreciate y'all and am sorry for our dork ass regulations
If I was Caltrans, I would work on getting the semis out of cities and providing dedicated roadways for trucking. Most traffic issues in cities are dealing with trucks. Something like a dedicated highway from El Centro through Barstow and into the Central Valley avoiding the populated coast. Then try to figure out how to filter trucks from the Port of LA and Long Beach east.
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn the Interstate 5 is like the backbone spine of California. Heading down south to LA when dad passed in 2015 I think I hit the SAME pothole jus tsouth of Sacramento I hit with my Ford Falcon in 1968. CalTrans service trucks were brand spanking new, and all over the place, doing nothing. How about the SWALE ini the slow lane from all the overloaded trucks?? I had to get into the second lane and junior college girls were passing me in their Honda's at 85 mph. as if I was standing still!! I couldn't win!!
Travelling on America's highways now is a nightmare with all the trucks jamming the lanes. Especially when one truck is going 1/10 of a mile and hour "faster" that the other truck and just HAS to pass. It takes 15 minutes to get past and he has 35 cars lined up behind him.
Most of the semi tractors trucks I drive at work are made in Mexico 🇲🇽 which I am proud of. Which are freigtliners and internationals. 😃
It's good to be proud of your country.
Navistar trucks the new 1s 2009 to present are pos trucks
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@@LibtardsareFuntotalkto considering how many are coming across the border they didn’t get the message
@@arthurbrumagem3844 I don't think people who abandon their country for the USA are very proud of their countries...
3000 variants of white! That's Rolls Royce levels of customisation
Bring back Marmon Trucks...actual good trucks all made right in the USA spec'd for owner ops.
Good to see young people like myself working hard, building the country - fellow CNC Machinist
More maintaining than building.
Some states like Nevada allowed heavier maximum allow weights for electric vehicles 82,000 pounds instead of 80,000 lbs. Removing the diesel engine, transmission, radiator, and loaded fueled tank can reduce the weight by about 5,000 pounds. In conventual diesel trucks over 85% of class 8 trucks fill up by volume before they reach the 80,000 weight limit.
0:49 I can't believe i've never heard that before.
It'll be interesting to see what happens w/ EV type rigs in the next 5 years. Relatively local stuff shouldn't be a big deal and local/city stuff is really the main benefit anyway ... thinking air pollution in cities ... breathing and all that.
Long haul trucking is another bear entirely, both due to weight battle with batteries and that rig-scale super fast charging effectively doesn't exist yet, so that infra needs to be fully dealt with still. Seems that one will take time; makes sense to focus on the low-hanging fruit of semi-local trucks.
I don't know if the Tesla semi will be any good or not. I do know Tesla excels at charging infrastructure. They build their own chargers at their New York factory Tesla semi superchargers will almost certainly have a Megapack to supply electric.
Just wait until drivers start destroying the chargers in truck stops like they did with shore power stationss
The foot print on Electric vehicles is horrible and with the international markets starting to break down it is only going to get worse.
@@bighands69 It isn't horrible. Slightly more than combustion in manufacture alone, but in full lifecycle of a vehicle they're demonstrably better. The markets are in a toss right now, but that's temporary, as such things are.
Good point. The off-interstate, rural routes have little-to-no recharging infrastructure and a lot of OTR miles are traveled over such routes.
I love Freightliner trucks.
How big are Daimlers resources, why they can't build modern trucks ?
Keep building DIESEL trucks ?
@@lucasrem Resources are huge. Daimler another name for Mercedes Benz, they have Mercedes Benz branded Trucks outside NA as well as owning Fuso in Japan and Bharat Benz in India. 4th largest Auto company Globally
@@lucasrem We are currently building battery electric eCascadia semis, and production on the eM2 is supposed to begin soon. The black and silver eCascadia was the first one built at the Portland truck plant, and the first customer trucks have already been delivered. I don't know the exact total that have been ordered, but it's in the thousands.
Remember.
For those who are car automobile drivers who may have not really let this sink in:
Tractors do not use gasoline.
Tractors use *diesel*
which makes you wonder - how the HELL did CAN PM Truedo declare war on truck drivers , and Canadian economy did not completely COLLAPSE, due to the enmity between PM Truedo and Truckers !!?!
Trudeau did not declare war in anything or anyone. If you are going to speak know the facts. If you are going to complain about a particular person know how to spell their name
Simple - Trudeau crushed them.
You failed to mention a list of pros vs cons for EV and fuel cell big rig trucks vs diesel. Why? Because you know that the truth would hurt your advertisers, perhaps? SMBH
EV Pros:
- Lower energy costs
- Lower emissions
- Uses less energy at idle
- Smoother ride
- Smoother acceleration
- More precise handling
- Easier to comply with environmental regulations
EV Cons:
- Shorter range
- Longer refueling times
- Heavier
- Cost more up front
- Require special safety precautions
I like the styling of the Volvo semi trucks in blue. The Freightliners are nice too.
Volvo’s are awesome. Freightliner’s are rubbish.
I think the Tesla and the Volvo are similar in design department but freighliner is a Mercedes-Benz so it’s good too pretty much every truck company are luxury brand based
You kids dont know what a true quality truck is .
@@relaxingshorts8587 don't compare mack to a volvo
You are confused.
I'm a truck driver and HATE this ever crumbling industry.... But it's nice to know they're trying to get rid of us with computers!
Someone should mention that the USA (and too many other countries actually) is over-dependent on freight trucking. Rail is much more economically efficient and environmentally friendly. Not to mention, fewer heavy trucks on the roads significantly increases said roads' lifespans, and also reduces congestion for everyone else.
Of course to make this work, you need government/state level planning and cooperation to build out the infrastructure. In the case of the USA, infrastructure on this scale used to exist, or has been abandoned. But nowadays, such infrastructure coordination in the USA is only seen in wasteful highway expansion projects.
Rail really ramped up under Hunter (CP, CN, and CSX) but demand still passed the ability of rail to grow. They tried for decades.
If the batteries weigh 16,000lbs. What does the engine/trans/drive line/fuel weigh that it will replace?
about 4000lbs
Just imagine that on fire! Firefighters putting thousands of gallons on EV car fires! Wait till the big trucks go up too!
@@brandontierney9489 Imagine a truck on fire, hundreds of liters of fuel on fire which can't be put out using water. Yeah fire departments can evolve and handle it with adequate training and funding.
The gasoline and diesel which burns off? Considering water restrictions in some states taking 10s of thousands of gallons of water on vehicle compared to a structure seems silly.
The Tesla semi was shown hauling eleven 4,000lb jersey barriers on a flat bed, so 44,000lbs total, with the total weight being 82,000lbs (truck, flatbed and cargo). A diesel can haul around 48,000lbs weighing 80,000lbs total. So based on that, the Tesla semi should be around 6,000lbs heavier than diesel truck.
Over all content is good. But a video on American Truck manufacturing sure does show a lot of euro cab over trucks in the “B” roll.
Did everyone forget there room for solar pannels on the 53 footers.
There's a saying in Oz.
Without trucks, Australia stops.
america is no different. we need our trucks, but the climate alarmists don't want shipments
@@Sanyu-Tumusiime Trains.
@@Sanyu-Tumusiime when i drove a truck, the rail was the biggest theat to business...
@@PistonAvatarGuy So if all we had was trains, how does the product get from the ports to the train, then from the train to its “last mile” destination? I used to fuel locomotives. I’ve seen first hand the inner workings of this operation. I would LOVE to here your answer 😃
@@paladro If you’re an OTR driver, sure. I can see that. However, the local drivers are always needed.
So if they get rid of drivers for self driving tractors:
Who is going to do pre-trip inspections?
Who is going to spot coolant, oil, and air leaks?
Who is going to pay the citation for a blown marker light or being 10lbs over on the trailer tandems?
Who is going to check the tread depth on the tires or the break pads?
Who is going to be responsible for the securement and condition of the frieght while in transit?
The shipper? The customer? The broker?The DOT Officer? 🤔
You forgot who is going to pay those &$@# lumpers
@@jessicacolegrove4152 good one.
hollycow the navistar building looks like the maxor building in westminster, co. that so cool
Hyiilion is a great solution for EV Class 8 trucks. Companies need to adopt this solution
all this is why trains are still viable
We are so focused how we could but no one thinks whether we should.
This type of technology is not ready. Even if we have the electric trucks ready to go, the infrastructure is just not capable of handling all of this increased demand. It will take utility companies time to prepare for electricity demand to skyrocket.
@@enriquemercedes9519 this is a fake argument, electric power production has increased around 4% every year and now is about to accelerate. And if all new sales were electric it will take a minimum of 30 years to replace the entire vehicle park. But we're not there, so there is plenty of time to improve electric infrastructure.
@@enriquemercedes9519 from 1907 to 1917 we went from 140k cars to 5m a 33x and from no trucks to 400k.
In that time we built the infrastructure. I don't understand we don't have the infrastructure argument. Obviously it will take decades to fully displace diesel but it will happen.
Is the max weight of trucks really an issue outside of fringe cases? a lot of goods shipped by truck aren't that heavy for their volume.
I've heard varying figures but the lowest I've heard is that 80% of trucks are below their weight limit. The Tesla was shown hauling eleven 4,000lb jersey barriers on a flat bed, which is 44,000lbs total. A diesel maxes out at 48,000lbs on a flatbed, so the Tesla isn't far off (about 91%).
@@truhartwood3170 also considering the cost benefit of electricity instead of diesel and less maintenance, in most use cases the Tesla Semi(according to available figures) will be much more profitable for trucking companies to use. Let's hope figures provided by Elon are true
When I was driving OTR about 15% of my loads were weight critical with a lot of adjusting tandems. If you can’t pick up the load you might wait for days to get a more weight appropriate load. That’s unpaid, and imagine telling your wife you won’t be home for Christmas because you can’t find a weight appropriate load. :)
When I was pulling local for a grocery DC 95% of my loads were max weight. So it depends on what you are doing and if you want to get paid.
Dedicated routes and local delivery would be fairly safe bets for meeting lighter weight standards.
@@hydrolifetech7911 item is range/charging, could be usefull in buildup area's tho.
Dial diesel is still the biggest way to be on the road by getting 545 MI on the road and then turn around with the co-pilot. 35 to 45 minutes turnarounds from one door to 12 doors for the full day of 8 hours that would be good with a Tesla or something small like a Mack truck small cab, no sleeper.
There are some companies that make light aerodynamic attachments for the back of semis to better streamline the rear of trucks. I wonder why we don’t require more trucks to have those. They apparently can improve fuel economy by about 10-25%. That’s not an insignificant amount.
Are you talking about the "skirts" underneath the trailer between the wheels and behind the doors? Those seem like a no-brainer with the air resistance the trucks cause. I'm always surprised more trucks don't have them.
@@BoulevardFan28 most trucks don't OWN the trailers and that mod. would be a decision for the grocery or freight company, not the driver.
Trucks in the US look so much cooler than trucks we use in the UK. Ours are mostly like the Volvo at 07:45, compared to the red truck at 07:24, which is a thing of beauty. I understand they are operating on very different roads, but the US ones still look cooler!
There's no length limit in America's
Grass is greener on the other side. I like Europe's cabovers. 😄
@@Love2Cruise I think the biggest problem with European trucks is the lack of space in the cabin, staying 1 month or more on the road is not easy. There's no way to compare.
Volvo VNL
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Peterbilt 579
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We have both in Australia, plus Japanese Trucks
@@enioveiga2439 Actually Trucks like rhe Scania XXL has a cab that big it has 4 doors. No they do not build many
Bringing the cost down for who ??? As a truck driver ,this is what i noticed :
Prices went up in the store for the products blaming on diesel price
Truckers started getting paid less even tho the diesel price went up double and triple
Diesel went down a little now
Truckers are getting less paid, but the store price for the products is still up .
WTF is GOIGN ON !
When it comes to battery trucks , the infrastructure is not ther ,Is not ready .. calif is already banning ppl to charge because the grid can t hold.. winter time is the death for the batteries
I agree. I personally don’t think the Diesel engine will ever be eliminated.
Without us truck drivers, the trucking industry is going to died
Trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains, trains!
Ain’t it nice when you get your local Walmart restocked via train.
Airplanes
@@DAMotorsports
In Australia they use road trains 😉
@@DAMotorsports 1 truck with a driver, two automated trucks behind it with sensors, cameras and a constant link with each other and the central command. There, a train on a highway.
@@stipebalenovic6497 that’s stupidly over complicating a road train 😂
Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure the emissions for large everyday trucks are nearly non-existent. Maybe we should work on emissions standards there too instead of just acting like large SUVs are free of emissions. 🙄
Have you guys seen the Shell h2 stations in CA?
Are they popping up?
CNBC showed the outside of the wrong factory. The sign on the plant said Cleveland Truck Manufacturing Plant but the story was about a North Carolina plant. Daimler has a factory in Cleveland but this isn't the plant discussed in the story.
we are quite a ways away from electric semi's being norm.. definitely not by the end of the decade.. i can't wait to see any of these electrics doing anything other than just straight hwy running. any construction site or logging videos.. would love to see those. what happens when you're in the woods and battery goes down? electric is way overhyped by the news and we as a society aren't ready for it.
People said that about EV cars 5 years ago and now several automakers have already announced cancellation of internal combustion engines in their vehicles within the next few years so I don't have any doubt that we will start seeing fully electric trucks as an industry standard within the next 5 years but what I dread is the implementation of fully autonomous trucks cuz that's going to put an end to my career I've been a truck driver for almost two decades I've done well over a million miles and if I lose my job because of autonomous trucks that's going to be all for not
I'd say society is ready but infrastructure is not
By the end of the decade electric semis will be the norm, at least for shorter distance hauls. The fuel and maintenance cost-savings are too significant for companies to ignore.
Interesting that the bulk of US Trucking Companies are owned by Europeans, PACCAR being the only zuS brand. So I guess what happrns in Europe will impact on their US operations
Those Europeans are given access to the US market place. Those companies have to manufacture in the US and while they are owned by European companies they are engineered in America.
Those types of trucks are not engineered in Europe and are not used in Europe where trucks are smaller, lighter and only designed for short haul trucking.
US trucks are designed for longer road driving as US highways are much more open than European highways.
@@bighands69 wrong there. They are also engineered in Europe,( engines for starters) parts are globally sourced, including European owned US Trucks,, cutting costs for the manufacturer
Now US trucks are being built in Mexico
European Trucks are not lighter, they are taller than Conventionals, Europeans haul heavier loads. European Trucks are used to haul across Turkey, Cental Asia, Africa, South America Middle East and Australia.
No Freeways are Freeways, Europe has tight speed limits, other countries that use European Trucks do not
@@bighands69 Must add seeing the bulk of your post is wrong. They were not" given access" to the US Market. They bought US companies like any other International Corporations have done. When the time was right they bid for the company.
I wonder how many of the drivers you see in this video are still popping bennies to stay awake? Nobody ever takes about that aspect of the truck driving scene.
I work as an analyst at an investment fund and I cover this industry. Paccar has a great reputation and management team
I've spent my whole life in this industry. Battery electric trucks will never be able to replace long haul diesel engine powered trucks. There's no viable way to equalize the cost, mileage distance, replacement cost, infrastructure, NHTSA rules, driver hours, freight rates, company profit standards and disposition of old EV's. Sure they will work for Port service or in town delivery service. Think about it. You have a company like Freightliner buying parts from California, they're not gonna plan just in time delivery of parts delivered by an EV when it will take a month for it to arrive.
They could do it with a diesel electric similar to a locomotive, but they wont cuz Diesels cheaper.
Never? Even in a trillion years?
Really, never? Electric semis save so much $$ in fuel and maintenance that they'll take over the under 500 mile market of semis, which is most of the market lol. Lithium-ion batteries are 90% cheaper now than a decade ago. This technology progressing quick, with now hundreds of billions going into battery tech. Won't be that long till long haul goes electric too because it will be a significant competitive advantage.
maybe not for you, but the wave is already formed. Harness and Tack makers said the automobile was a fad, too dangerous and only for the rich. Steam locomotives could never be replaced by Electric motors and Airplanes were a crazy idea...
Welp, although it was less than 10 seconds in total, at least you mentioned Tesla!
That's still *way* more than representative of the number of trucks they actually have on the road.
As a driver we call the Freightliner the FreighShaker. It's the ford of the Trucking world. Sorta Cheap parts and in volume.
We see them in Australia same saying
Dealt with these at Cdl school. Mirrors shaking so bad I couldn’t see where the hell I was backing
The big thing about electrification is we really are still in the early days. We've still only really just begun building basic infrastructure to support it. Most importantly though, is battery technologies and the price per kwh has been changing dramatically over the last 2 decades this trend will continue because there are hundreds of companies and universities across the planet researching and developing dozens of different battery technologies. They are doing this because they know who ever can develop a battery that is significantly superior to today's options will have an intellectual property worth at least billions. Eventually, the storage capacity per unit of weight and the respective costs is going to improve greatly from where it currently stands.
We are not there yet, but there will come a day where diesel just will no longer make sense in *most* use cases. Probably the greatest challenges for this tech in logistics are team drivers who keep a truck running almost non stop for days at a time as well as truckers who spend a lot of time in very cold weather--current battery tech does not favor very cold conditions.
True autonomous trucking is probably still more than a decade or two from really becoming common however, it probably will happen at least for major cross country hauls that stick to i-10, i-40 and i-80 with complicated last mile still being handled in traditional day cabs by locals for quite some time. This much will likely happen as quickly as truck companies feel it is viable though because the big players run through literally hundreds of employees every single month to make these sorts of drives, it's just unreliable and unsustainable--instead of improving conditions to increase retention they'll leap to this tech, asap for those long, lonely interstate drives. Then of course, some special areas of trucking such as loggers will probably remain highly resistant to such technologies for a very long time--there are just too many non-standard choices these drivers have to make to account for in these autonomous algorithms in the near future. It is also important to note that once one major company such as JB Hunt, Knight-Swift or Schneider does it, *nearly all the rest will quickly fall in line, they'll have no financial choice in the matter.
PS: If it matters I have 6 years Over The Road (OTR) experience in the 48 but, I've left that sector and now work as a science teacher in South Korea at an international school.
This may be controversial statement but US and Canada should shift to a Train and smaller truck operation. I.e. Deliver goods to a place via rail and then have the last mile delivery infra be fully electric. US has great rail network and if this could be electrified imagine the jobs it would create.
We already do that to a degree. Most bulk cargo and basic goods traveling long distance go by rail. What most long haul trucks do is travel anywhere from 250 to 500 miles with some getting over a thousand miles. These arent trucks that are traveling cross country persay. There are trucks that do that, especially ones who are delivery cargo you cant take by rail and such.
Music is loud. Louder than the narrator's voice.
Towards the end of that video, I saw one illegal move, where they're showing the autonomous truck, and it was driving toward a flashing yellow traffic Light, that is an automatic 4 way stop, and this truck was not slowing down.
And I hope relief comes soon because we all need the money to pay our bit's just been rough all around also the temp demo turning a lot of people so if you're out there please be safe
"Maybe that is a question you should ask Chy-na." DJT
Those new Cascadia's are garbage. It's almost as if they never even asked a truck driver to get inside and test one out. I could list probably a minimum of 50 stupid design and function issues just within the cab alone. I will never ever again get a Freightliner. Thankfully I moved to a company that does not buy anything but Peterbilts.
You guys know “Left Less”? Well at 9:42 you’ve got it backwards ;-) >300 means greater than 300.
@4:03 Daimler Trucks knows who to hire
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I can happily say I'll be driving that Tesla semi 😎
In what century
Ever been inside a truck? Lol
@jansen yes I owned a 2015 Peterbilt 389. Now I have a 2022 Volvo vnl 860. And I love the Volvo way more. Can't wait for the next improvement in the semi-truck industry. I put in an order for 2 Tesla semi-trucks and I'm so stoked.
@@colorr-1238 I have hard times believing you.
@jansen I'm not telling you to believe me. It's your choice. But I'm not saying to show off either I worked hard for having the opportunity to place orders for any truck I owned. You may ask how can someone afford such a thing, simple answer ditch a dry van and do specialized freight my whole family is based on trucking so I had some great advice.
Nobody is going to legalize unmanned ,80000 pound, trucks on public roads . Only shunter trucks ,at warehouses and truck yards , will probably get automation tech , and operate like the package moving robots at Amazon warehouses . Electric trucks ,might be feasible for short distance ,city deliveries, trips but unlikely for cross country trips . Unless the largest truck stop chains , the flying J Pilot TA and Loves, invest in charger infrastructure ,the likelihood of E-trucks driving long distance trips is zero.
There are not enough stops, at dusk it is difficult to find a space, it would be interesting to build loading stations for 100/150 trucks recharging at the same time.
They never have.
and when shunters are operating I keep the entire yard at night CLEAR: no personnel on the grounds under any conditions w/o me knowing about it, and devising a plan.
When was the last time the government passed out grants to build gas stations? Why are we subsidizing electric charging stations?
Many, many more good, clean, well run Truck Stops gave been severely needed for 3 decades now.
Freight liner so proud of the complexity of options. Smells like Tesla 3 colour options and simple dash will steal a big market share. Watch in 2023
The eCascadia is targeted at a different market than the Tesla Semi. The eCascadia is more of a dreyage and short haul truck for use around ports. It's a hugely important market, but doesn't overlap much with the Tesla's long haul oriented approach.
Elon's idea of a tractor is laughable. Anyone with real knowledge of the industry knows his new semi is as functional and practical as a white elephant inside a Swarovski store.
Sure. Pepsi doesn't know what they are doing. Shame on this company that uses trucks everyday promotes and uses fraud truck.
I'm guessing Swarovski is popular with truckers?
Instead of raising the wages of truckers the companies are looking to replace driver altogether.
😂... Can't even get a car to do it yet.
That's how business works!
What else should a business do? Go out of business..? Human beings constantly have to replace the shittiest repetitive jobs by automation.
Cars replaced horses, computers replaced accounts, diggers replaced manual labor. And that is how it should be..
@@Robert-cu9bm A truck driver has other responsibilities other than driving from point A to point B. He has to take care of the documentation, help in loading and unloading , as well as looking after the security of the load worth over thousands of dollars until it reaches its destination. Can AI do all this? I don’t think so.
Hence why "truckers have been the number independent subcontractor" of all businesses for a Long time. since the end of the unions //
myop the shareholders of the companies that enslave the labor units are just as easily given the Hoax as a slave is. and there r no charges with the Hoax.
no trucker has gone to jail for infecting the many pro Keystone pipeliners
Pipe lines = less truckers due to there being less freight to move less oil to move less less less with pipes lining the landscape // be aware the saudis Hate electric power and they may be planning to HIRE another GOP President to ban electric cars. reagan hates solar panels and put so much debt on usa at the same time
God gave the actor Alzheimer's LOL saudis took credit for 9/11/01 and the GOP sell out to their wants of americans fighting their enemies overseas for Free
myop no body cares so Neutron B the palaces take out the head of the snake then take over their ops sure pay their slaves to circle the sand, but lower the price of fuel back to the $20/b gwbush promised back in 2003 he promised to make the oil b price $20 not the over $100/b he made it become and empowered the saudis with trillions of usa cash flow // Enjoy Boxing Week! the Matches are Awesome!!
I suspect massive options will narrow as truckmakers must invest in either truck wind design and electrification and options cost money to offer customers. The "easy" bit was a diesel engine that was used globally. The bigger issue is labor. I cannot see any change in this squeeze and someone must pay to attract talent- money (and the end user will pay) is barely working. BAD working conditions, transit delays, customers flight to any cheaper spot market, short contracts, long distances sitting in a seat and remaining focused does not overcome the "see the world by Truck" dream job advert. Might we see less one-man (and its almost all men) operators and more joining up to drive some cost cuts (insurance/workloads).
The fact is that at very low speeds and in acceleration - electric power helps cut the emissions in those parts of the power. So mild hybrid as standard and full hybrid (or plugin) for anything higher. Tesla may attract the new zero emission orders. It will be small but it means lower sales volumes for the existing truck makers. Tesla can also afford to lose cash on every sale for a few years based on its share price remaining "high" compared to the old competition. I can see radical truck design changes to make then move through the air easier and who cares what the truck looks like if you can offer a lower cost shipping. Rail operators have yet to met the long distance container alternative with "local" trucks taking the shortest "last mile" gap. Will electric trucks attract new drivers? No as the other issues (other road users driving behaviour, just in time delivery schedules, fuel issues (or recharging within a truck stop) and lonely driving are not solved/
I have not seen a new truck for $150k in 2022 and neither have I seen a dealer with a 2022 or 2023 model. Sad for independent drivers
There's no such thing as a zero emission vehicle. The energy is produced somewhere. Even if it's solar or wind, both of those require massive carbon based manufacturing.
And how much of the electricity to recharge is still produced by burning coal? Just because you don't see the coal burning doesn't mean it's not being burned.
@@JerryDowst - Thankfully erudite people understand that charging an electric is still advantageous.
Perspective is important and so are facts. Try reading more.
"...In 2020, total U.S. electricity generation by the electric power industry of 4.01 trillion kilowatthours (kWh) from all energy sources resulted in the emission of 1.55 billion metric tons-1.71 billion short tons-of carbon dioxide (CO2). This equaled about 0.85 pounds of CO2 emissions per kWh..." - EIA website
0.85 pounds = 385.6 grams
Since the average EV gets roughly 4 miles per kWh and the Tesla semi gets roughly 1.25 miles per kWh, that's about 96 grams of CO2 emitted per mile for the typical EV (car), and about 308 grams per mile for the Tesla Semi.
Every gallon of gasoline burned creates about 8,887 grams of CO2
Every gallon of diesel burned creates about 10,800 grams of CO2
If the average gasoline car gets roughly 30 miles per gallon then it will emit about 296 grams of CO2 per mile.
If the average diesel semi gets roughly 7 miles per gallon then it will emit about 1543 grams of CO2 per mile.
I realize how math challenged (and suckers for confirmation bias), most of you fossil fools are but could one of you MENSA candidates please check my math When it comes to the old "burning coal to make electricity" argument, it sure looks to me like you people haven't got a leg to stand on
@@Tron-Jockey Thank you Sir. These naysayers refuse the Math and advance through technology but they use their iPhones everyday. BTW the first cars used electricity but unfortunately technology wasn't ready at that time. Cheers 🥂
Difference being that cities will have less noise (city hum is proven to make people less talkative, more irritable ), less exhaust fumes (to breathe in, less sticking on your façade making it look like crap). We could also make our own coal or run diesel fueled generators and have our own energy source in every back yard but that would be less efficient, more smelly and such. There are advantages of concentrating power generation. Stick one filter on a coal power plant vs stick tens of thousands of smaller ones everywhere.
Autonomous trucks without a dedicated freeway truck lane will absolutely not work. This lane would have to be in a perfect condition including pavement, road lines and dedicated ramps that take the autonomous trucks directly to the terminals. This would be a bare minimum at best and anything else is bound to fail with the current road infrastructure.
A dedicated freeway is just like building a train line. It would be expensive, inefficient and so on.
The world and its technologies be a changing. What we considwr impossible today can become common in the years to come.
The change from coal fired locomotives to diesel electric was much faster than anyone thought possible. This is because once they started changing in 1947, and discovered how much lower the operating cost was, in 1950 the change started to go very quickly. By 1960, it was Very rare to see any more coal fired steam trains.
One quote I like to repeat is that a steam engineer was saying "This is a 1935 locomotive, with only about 200,000 miles on it, and they surely will not scrap a expensive train like this one". However the maintenance cost and the cost to bring coal to the fuel locations, and the cost to clean the burners every 6 hours of run time, and the diesel won out very quickly!
I think the same thing will happen with electric cars and trucks! Once people discover that the EV costs about $25 a month to fill it with power at home, no more trips to the gas station once a week, and no $150 - $300 a month spent on gas, they will tell their friends and all will end up switching to electric fairly quickly!
Once Tesla starts to supply 50,000 trucks a year, and the company says "Instead of filling the truck with $300 of diesel each day, I am filling it with $85 of electricity, I am happy!" And the fuel filter / oil & filter change for $450 will be gone forever!
They will be looking to buy these trucks as soon as they can! Even if the cost is $250,000 for a day cab version. I think that Tesla might offer a longer cab version, even if they do not produce the bedroom unit themselves. Back in the 70's and 80's, the sleeper cabs where add on units, not part of the cab like today's units. I think a add on sleeper cab might be possible, or Tesla will start to produce sleeper units at some point.
Right now, Tesla is selling day cabs because their target market is the short haul, from port of LA to someplace within 65 miles, and places like Pepsi who will also be running less than 250 miles per day with the trucks and normally return to base each day.
I also think that the trailer might get it's own battery and perhaps a 100 - 200 HP motor that will recharge that battery with regenerative braking, and provide a little extra power when getting on a freeway, then de-clutch and sit there waiting for a time that regenerative braking is needed. If the truck can plug in using a pair of 50 amp power cords (2 each +800 volts and two grounds along with a ground wire) it can move 40 amps max through each wire (80 total at 800 volts = 64 KW per hour). This can extend the driving range by allowing the trailer to fully charge for a couple of hours before the next trip.
Yes they already make battery units with a electric motor for trailers, they have been making them for 5+ years, and they typically save 15% of diesel fuel.
Your comment hasn’t aged well. EVs are struggling big time.
Surprised there was no mention of natural gas (CNG, LNG) powered trucks which are already in use and there's refilling infrastructure for it. Natural gas is cleaner than diesel, can be carbon neutral or negative (if using RNG), and can be used in the meantime while the electrical and hydrogen infrastructures are being built up.
CNG fuel is $6/gallon in California, more than diesel right now
NG consumption really ramps up when you have it under load. My brother and I owned a p/u truck for his artisan work and I owned a GMC cube van., both natural gas. WE had six courier vans in Vancovuer, bC in the eighties with NG. But it has it's limits and is a good fuel for commuting to work, not for heavy pulling. The decision to ramp down NG was not made in Bc or Wyoming, it was made in Washington and Canada got a big brother phone call to shut it down.
@@lapislazuli5020 There were a few shuttle trucks that had NG in the eighties, but under LOAD NG doesn't last. You consumption curve really ramps up. For clean air and low carbon footprint, MAYBE use it as a trailer spotter in a warehouse environment, but that's about it. Did that in the eighties.
@@user-zp7jp1vk2i Interesting but I think natural gas engines have have probably come a long way since the eighties. Newer NG engines like the Cummins X15N with 500HP are made specifically for heavy duty trucking. They are being used in semi trucks made by Kenworth, Peterbilt, Freightliner etc. Lots of fleets see NG as a good/greener intermediate solution for now and so they are investing in it. Some states also provide grants and tax incentives for converting to NG vehicles so encouraging more fleets to make the switch.
For example Amazon already has over 1000 CNG semi trucks, UPS are investing in over 6000 CNG vehicles of various classes, Walmart, FedEx etc etc... the list goes on.
Then you also have electric semi trucks like the Hyliion Hypertruck ERX which uses an onboard CNG generator to recharge the batteries that drives an electric drivetrain. So with this truck you have all the benefits of an electric drivetrain but without the long recharging times of a pure BEV because it uses CNG for refuelling.
I would think that a diesel electric hybrid truck could work in long haul trucking. Electric motors have all the necessary torque. A diesel engine running a generator would keep the battery replenished. This is what powers most locomotives.
Check out Hyliion on TH-cam. They do what you are suggesting using RNG instead of diesel.
@@brianmason5500 Yeah I actually found an article about Hyliion after posting.
On the international side, Hull led the United States to an Olympic silver medal at his second Games in 2002 and topped the tournament in scoring as Team USA captured the inaugural World Cup of Hockey in 1996, the first of his two World Cup appearances. He also participated in the 1991 Canada Cup and made his debut in a Team USA jersey at the 1986 International Ice Hockey Federation Men's World Championship.
There'd be no benefit in a long-haul application, as a series hybrid arrangement is less efficient than having a gearbox between the engine and the wheels.
Maybe u missed the part where they said batteries are heavy...i don't think adding a diesel engine, transmission and fuel tank help.
E.M. is a supervillain in disguise...
EM is full mask off, no disguise lmao
@@scalbaldyfruub7499 Agreed, BHULL AC is going to come running to the rescue, if in fact based systems have a results quota , for instance On the international side, Hull led the United States to an Olympic silver medal at his second Games in 2002 and topped the tournament in scoring as Team USA captured the inaugural World Cup of Hockey in 1996, the first of his two World Cup appearances. He also participated in the 1991 Canada Cup and made his debut in a Team USA jersey at the 1986 International Ice Hockey Federation Men's World Championship.
These quotes are so simple are cringey,everyone who i have and dont understand is evil 🙈
I've only used a few freightliner models
But when an outside corporation purchased it. I lost interest
I'll stick with paccar products.
Coincidentally
With initial cost of 200 to 300k its hard to justify a new model.
This economic climate has been rough and I'm sure it's not finished quite yet.
Edison motors makes a diesel hybrid truck for logging. It gets twice the fuel economy of a regular diesel and is more durable. If you look at the front bumper on the trucks here, they're like mince meat. Check out Edison motors, it's well worth the investigation.
almost all trucks are built by European companies 😱
Just the old fashioned one is American. For some reason, US companies are bad at making quality vehicles that isn’t for the army. Too many bean counters, I guess. Look what happened to Boeing.
Six European brand trucks dominate the World truck market
The bus market is also dominated by European brands
Hard to believe but " American" Heavy Trucks are mainly European owned. They are conventional not Cabover though
Dont fear elong will jive his way into being the king kong of truck mfg.
@@mochiebellina8190 Why worry about nothing
Musk would have been better off spending almost the same amount of money buying "the entire Semi-Truck industry" in the USA than spending almost that much on worthless Twitter.
twitter could become and extremely profitable business. only time will tell if his investment was financial viable.