The Marble League 2023 Unqualified Teams

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  • @weillio1993
    @weillio1993 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    "They are just like actual jungles, destroyed" jesus

  • @TungstenArm
    @TungstenArm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    I think the Wolfpack are a very young squad, beyond just being a newer franchise. They just need time to develop.

    • @Tomasticar9203
      @Tomasticar9203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wolves will be the worst one of the new teams. trust

    • @thefunnybinaryman
      @thefunnybinaryman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tomasticar9203 currently the best, so eat that

  • @gerrit-jannap8792
    @gerrit-jannap8792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Ah yes, some timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:25 Heh... Balls
    1:32 Jungle Fumblers
    2:16 Melted... Wait, what?
    2:49 Quacked under pressure
    4:17 Too sour
    5:06 Busted
    6:05 Existing in the Showdown
    7:10 Crash landed
    7:53 Turtles
    8:38 Team Secondary
    9:40 Wolfwhack
    10:17 Minty Stale
    10:47 Chocolate fondue
    12:04 Some predictions for relegation because... why not?
    13:47 Outro

  • @OnlyMooseUKnow
    @OnlyMooseUKnow 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I’ve only just rediscovered the Marble League after is reappeared in my feed for these Qualifiers. I had NO idea there was fan commentary videos. LET ALONE it’s own version of Urinating Tree Commentary 😂. What a discovery I’ve made.

  • @yummyos
    @yummyos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I don’t think you get enough credit for how amazing you are for the marble community

    • @eliezersmarbleraces3137
      @eliezersmarbleraces3137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was noted by the famous MSWP a few days ago.

    • @alphatoast3558
      @alphatoast3558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eliezersmarbleraces3137 whats that

  • @Tomasticar9203
    @Tomasticar9203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    limers about to get HARRASSED

    • @connorjackson5870
      @connorjackson5870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a limers fan from the first season, I feel….

    • @Tomasticar9203
      @Tomasticar9203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@connorjackson5870 same bro. Same

  • @kaitoalkan
    @kaitoalkan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Honorable Mention to the Thunderbolts, who may as well not have qualified at all.
    Being a Thunderbolts fan is suffering...

    • @Joekuh
      @Joekuh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I turned off the last event IMMEDIATELY after that last pathetic showing today. Dear God it's tough to watch sometimes.

    • @Nighone
      @Nighone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Silver lining: They're a shoo-in for the anti-record.

  • @hardly.rivai_YT
    @hardly.rivai_YT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I am a fan of the Green Ducks, but I genuinely fear that they might get relegated to the Showdown for ML2024. Hazers fans know what it is like to not getting a chance to qualify this edition. 😓

    • @josephhatter3773
      @josephhatter3773 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Fellow green ducks here. I wake up screaming fearing relegation sometimes right now

    • @NicoThePro5665
      @NicoThePro5665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same man

    • @eliezersmarbleraces3137
      @eliezersmarbleraces3137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's unfortunate being a green ducks fan.

    • @SunsetVidsOfficial
      @SunsetVidsOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a green ducks fan. The showdown will be a nightmare for all of us.

    • @Wall_Man
      @Wall_Man 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah yes,the green dissapointments that give me mood swings

  • @Momoikkai
    @Momoikkai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    the best part of this video is getting to see team momo qualify again and again. team momo ml23 champs so true 💚💜

    • @yoshi11p81
      @yoshi11p81 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 15th to 1st Momo comeback is on

  • @camcom278
    @camcom278 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can we talk about how HORRID the thunderbolts are currently doing

    • @Joekuh
      @Joekuh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. Us TBolt fans are acting like they aren't even there, honestly.

  • @shadicTPZ
    @shadicTPZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Well looking at Team Momo's performance so far... You probably jinxed them

    • @rossmair6862
      @rossmair6862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know the worst part? I was rooting for them. Now I am cheering for the bees

    • @wangsengsin2527
      @wangsengsin2527 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I chose to still support Team Momo, and at this point I’m just rooting for us to beat the Thunderbolts

    • @rossmair6862
      @rossmair6862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wangsengsin2527you are basically asking them to do the bare minmum

    • @RobertoLimaYT2
      @RobertoLimaYT2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re starting to improve right now

    • @maxandlily6074
      @maxandlily6074 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *cough* *cough*

  • @derekpolischeck9268
    @derekpolischeck9268 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Dino must suffer the power of timestamp after roasting minty
    0:00 that thing that begins the video
    0:25 You like looking at "balls" don't you
    1:32 Leap's traumatic brain injury
    2:16 #snowlols wait what
    2:49 Migration is coming out Christmas I think they'll miss it
    4:17 harassment on a freaking lime
    5:06 when you want to talk about relevant teams
    6:05 the most existed team on the showdown
    7:10 The Eggplants
    7:53 Plastic Straw Receptacles
    8:38 Team Secondary
    9:40 The furries don't need humiliation
    10:17 NOOOOO MINTYYYYYY 😭😭😭😭😭😭
    10:47 I honestly don't know
    12:04 Dino's hopefully incorrect relegation prediction
    13:47 that thing that that tim ritz made to end the video

    • @AmognusBalls69420
      @AmognusBalls69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A bad name for Chocolatiers is pieces of crap

  • @johnnydropkicks
    @johnnydropkicks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Showdown is like the NIT basketball tournament for marbles.

  • @kingaye372
    @kingaye372 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The only team from the 2019 that hasn't struggled since their success has been the raspberry racers. Hazers choked to make the podium twice and they failed to not just make the marble league, but they got relegated as I predicted would happen. And the ducks have been a slow decline ever since 2019 and I won't be surprised if they get relegated. This showdown will be pretty interesting just like the marble league this year. Also GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORANGERRRRRRRRRSSSSS!

    • @parisgaming2345
      @parisgaming2345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      GOOOOOOORANGERSSSSSSSS🍊

  • @llmkursk8254
    @llmkursk8254 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man, Lame Ducks is *right there*

  • @LymetimeProductions
    @LymetimeProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A "Hater's Guide" to ML23 is something I didn't know I needed

  • @10tails
    @10tails 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So, departing from the Kayfabe of JMR for a moment:
    How many times do you think JMR runs the marble machines for footage? And how many times does it take to make sure the O'Rangers has a come from the bottom into the top 8 come from behind climb each time?
    This is like the third year that's happened.

    • @HanxoHaxashi
      @HanxoHaxashi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They only run it one time since circa 2017 unless there'll be malfunctions or errors. I believe 2016 E12 is the best example of doing it multiple times

  • @marykandis959
    @marykandis959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I wish the solar flares would get their act together but I'm just happy Plasma got into the games!

  • @nathangamble125
    @nathangamble125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Orbit: not good at orbiting.

  • @lavaboyoh1893
    @lavaboyoh1893 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was shocked at the Snowballs qualifying, and the Green Ducks not, as you are

  • @Garfieldday1991
    @Garfieldday1991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The willy wonka comparison is too accurate. Whenever the chocs were about to compete, I would cover my face so their failure wouldn't burn my eyes, since I figured I would need them to watch literally any other team, even the turtle sliders. Now I'm currently getting ready for my 50 shots of jack daniel's and my infinite loss of sleep I'll experience during the showdown while grieving over a disaster I've experienced several times before, and which I knew was awaiting me ever since the chocolatiers took an L in event 16 of 2022.
    I say this as a long-time chocolatiers fan.

  • @thehellyousay
    @thehellyousay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Balls of Chaos! Marbles for the Marble God!

  • @VaticalliX
    @VaticalliX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    hell yeah Thesaurus uploaded the unqualified teams vid, glad to see it, great vid as well
    also as for a better duo than the Jumpers and missing out by two points, I have one:
    The Hazers and getting last in Block Pushing.

  • @jacksfacts20
    @jacksfacts20 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "They're like actual stars...they've been dead for a million years." Gonna need a sensu bean for that one...

  • @amm5964
    @amm5964 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Kobalts, Stars shade in this video is crazy 🤣🤣

  • @Sam_Hue
    @Sam_Hue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s so mo-over

  • @TAProductions2021
    @TAProductions2021 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank God, that Curt didn't do sh!t over the Wolfpack. I also saw that they struggled in team events.

  • @andrewwolverton3762
    @andrewwolverton3762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a BOC fan from day one, this hit hard.

  • @Theepicgolem123
    @Theepicgolem123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im severely disappointed in my no longer team. They did awful

  • @Setra4271
    @Setra4271 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This man dared to break out the Wooden Bear for the Stars, looks like it didn't age well though

  • @frenchfrey65
    @frenchfrey65 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man what happened to the Green Ducks hurt as bad as the Brewers getting destroyed in the MLB playoffs...

    • @MrOuchiez
      @MrOuchiez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fear The Deer at least?

  • @AmognusBalls69420
    @AmognusBalls69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was the coach who killed Limers' opportunity to take top half in the main tournament

  • @EricB256
    @EricB256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Would love to see Palette Park back in M1 next year, It's such a good track. Here's hoping that Primary will be invited back, regardless of their upcoming showdown performance. They should have done enough in this year's M1 to earn it.
    As for the other showdown teams, it's been hard to explain why Snowballs and Sliders were not invited back yet. They both have proven to do well in M1. Chocs and Wolfpack, however, I wouldn't be shocked if they were sent packing.
    But for now, let's see if Hazers and Kobalts still got a bit of a career going for them apart from M1 which is clearly their strong suit. Will the Honeydome circuit be part of the showdown this year? It really could benefit those teams.
    Jungle Jumpers should hire a psychologist to help them with their condition. They clearly did too much parachuting over wooden terrain. And Solar Flares: looks like Marbleearth has got s trong magnetic field that is keeping you out. If a magnetic storm were to happen during the upcoming showdown, however, you could find out a lot about the layers of Marbleearth!

  • @AmognusBalls69420
    @AmognusBalls69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I also got 12/16 right, Just Ducks, Minties, Limers and Stars, I thought they're gonna be in the main league
    But it was Mellow Yellow, Rojo Rollers, Gliding Glaciers and Snowballs instead...

  • @superalex120
    @superalex120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:25 chaos has fallen
    1:32 jumping into basement
    2:50 it’s duck hunting season
    4:19 the L’s
    5:08 jack blacks
    6:06 team that exist
    7:11 at least you’re the best purple space team
    7:54 the showdown emperor
    8:39 team secondary
    9:40 booo pack
    10:18 finally you’re in the basement
    10:49 who?
    12:06 green bottom 4

  • @andrewdouris6035
    @andrewdouris6035 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Speeders for life!!

  • @koziboo
    @koziboo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i predicted the script, let's gooo

  • @Diamond-OSCandMarblestuff
    @Diamond-OSCandMarblestuff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can't wait to see mints and ducks

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do they go well together?
      I think the ducks go better with the o'rangers.

    • @Diamond-OSCandMarblestuff
      @Diamond-OSCandMarblestuff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nathangamble125 ueah but both failrd and dink.REALLY hates thw mints

  • @psychochiken4111
    @psychochiken4111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here's hoping the Rojo Rollers can pull of a better showing than our last Marble League. We're doing okay right now, we just need to push a *little* harder and roll a *little* faster.

  • @kplowch22
    @kplowch22 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite video every year

  • @ddasher
    @ddasher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot to mention that this is the 1st qualis that Minty Maniacs failed to qualify in

  • @YoutubeCommonman_Totas
    @YoutubeCommonman_Totas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thunderbolts are gonna make last year's BOC look good

  • @user-eb6yc8df3s
    @user-eb6yc8df3s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The teams that didn’t qualify still get to compete in the Marble League Showdown.

  • @killdozer7792
    @killdozer7792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somehow, I just knew that Thesaurus would include a "DUDE, WTF!?" reaction to the Snowballs not only qualifying but qualifying *convincingly*. XD

    • @andrewberthiaume7323
      @andrewberthiaume7323 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A fun running trend with each of these run down videos lol

  • @quixotix9540
    @quixotix9540 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God, I remember rooting for the chocs with a chance to WIN THE LEAGUE in 2021. Albeit, so did most of the other teams, but they had a reasonable 7th place finish and it looked overall promising for the team's future. Now I can't even watch them most of the time, and when I can, they're completely unwatchable. I hate to say it, but I have a sneaking suspicion that M1 has *ruined* the Chocolatiers.

  • @xvgm24
    @xvgm24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully Team Primary doesn't get relegated! At least they had a fantastic showing in M1

  • @RobertoLimaYT2
    @RobertoLimaYT2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Purple Rockets literally got knocked out to the showdown by the Rojo Rollers and Team Plasma

  • @HarlieJest
    @HarlieJest 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sad Turtle Sliders. Always the Showdown, never the main event.

  • @dustonpage1280
    @dustonpage1280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The snowballs didnt just qualify.......
    Theyre killing it

  • @aquatic5180
    @aquatic5180 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chocolatiers roast when?

  • @crypton7572
    @crypton7572 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing team momo's current performance n the main league I honestly dont think they shouldve have qualified
    Green teams all seem to be have been cursed this year

  • @garethfullin9722
    @garethfullin9722 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MY POOR, POOR OCEANICS

  • @ErikZarins
    @ErikZarins 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You sound like the UrinatingTree of Marble League 😂😂

    • @AndrewBlechinger
      @AndrewBlechinger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His first rooting video in the depths of the lockdown acknowledged this.

  • @atomiste4312
    @atomiste4312 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hazers fan here, have to support Snowballs this year and aside from the occasionnal gold the overall standings hurt a lot

  • @Jack29Gaming
    @Jack29Gaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yes

  • @dranziken
    @dranziken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have no fear, the MVP curse will be broken in 2024 by Rapidly.

  • @OlynJohnson...
    @OlynJohnson... 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has anyone else been waiting for this for a while.
    Also this will be edited for my opinions.

  • @Survivalman45
    @Survivalman45 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can someone please explain to me why the “Hazers” didn’t even get to qualify this year?

    • @ThesaurusDinosaurus
      @ThesaurusDinosaurus  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They ended in the bottom 4 of the 2022 showdown. The bottom 4 teams in the showdown do not get to participate in the following qualifiers

  • @Jane-vy6mf
    @Jane-vy6mf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being a team primary fan is hell
    My second n third teams being minty and wolfpack is also hell

  • @themadman731
    @themadman731 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Go Stars 😔

    • @theKobaltPossum
      @theKobaltPossum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go Stars! And go kobalts! :)

    • @VaticalliX
      @VaticalliX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GO GO INDIGO
      and also O'rangers (lots of bias with that one), Primary, and Kobalts

  • @anarchy13673
    @anarchy13673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    anarchy

  • @geoffbschneider
    @geoffbschneider 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have chosen balls of chaos Oceanics Limers and Solar flares

  • @ReallyBlueSky
    @ReallyBlueSky 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stars sucking this bad in the qualifiers sucked, but at least Glaciers made it
    too bad their not doing so great rn in the league

  • @dieseljester3466
    @dieseljester3466 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Achievement Unlocked: You Don't Suck
    🤣😂🤣😂💀☠

  • @funtechu
    @funtechu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm bummed that Green Ducks didn't qualify this year

  • @DynoKea
    @DynoKea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:03 Hold up, something is off here

  • @mesoed
    @mesoed 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So, why were the Hazers auto-relegated to the Showdown anyway? 😊

    • @parisgaming2345
      @parisgaming2345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because they finished in the bottom 4 last year

    • @thecarrot2456
      @thecarrot2456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was the other 2? Oceanics I know

    • @phuocnguyenhuu4220
      @phuocnguyenhuu4220 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Solar flares and kobalts

    • @thecarrot2456
      @thecarrot2456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@phuocnguyenhuu4220 thanks

  • @tristan4206
    @tristan4206 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i havent been watching for a few years, how come oceanics isnt in the running this year

    • @crypton5344
      @crypton5344 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bc they were relegated so he already spoke about them

  • @No_Sleepee
    @No_Sleepee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instead of a "3rd place curse" can we just come to an agreement that teams that wind up getting 3rd place ultimately suck in the longrun? I mean *really*. Thunderbolts, Minties, Glaciers, Team Galactic, Oceanics- All forgettable at best, and residential basement dwellers at worst.

    • @HanxoHaxashi
      @HanxoHaxashi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't forget Mellow since 2018. Altho they're resurging since

  • @fallennightcore719
    @fallennightcore719 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kobalts Shmobalts

  • @aberloch5987
    @aberloch5987 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did I say Indigo Stars would win the marble league? God damnit. Now I'm saying they'll be relegated alongside The Oceanics, Solar Flares And Minty Maniacs

  • @seesaw41
    @seesaw41 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Momo got in, yes. But what did they do so far?
    Nothing and yet more Nothing. It's pain, but there's still 10 events to go. Who knows.

  • @NicoThePro5665
    @NicoThePro5665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i c u make this

  • @TAProductions2021
    @TAProductions2021 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wolfpack, what are your thoughts?

  • @FlameDragon72
    @FlameDragon72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need my Hazers to jump back to their best form in this year's Showdown. We can't be losing to more bum-level marbles for another year.

  • @cooperc69420
    @cooperc69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm just gonna say this. 4 blue teams will get relegated. All the blue teams except the Thunderbolts are in the showdown this year.
    13th: Turtle Sliders
    14th: Kobalts
    15th: Oceanics
    16th: Indigo Stars

    • @cooperc69420
      @cooperc69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SPOILER ALERT
      Well fuck I jinxed the Stars

  • @justtravin3
    @justtravin3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @#Thesaurus Dinosaurus whats the show down?

  • @aliyai4000
    @aliyai4000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aryp's a great athlete, just not a good captain. In spite of the skills as a captain falling flat on their face, Aryp is still one of the best marbles in Team Primary roster as we currently speak. Team Primary desperately need to join up with another team that is currently kinda flopping in the ML as we speak and sack their manager for the next season because it clearly shows it's not helping them out in any way possible.
    Chocs hurt the most among all of them, damn. Sure I didn't expect the moon and the stars from them, but those 9 whole points hurt. I really fear relegation for them and I lowkey wish it isn't the case and that they can still somehow bounce back at least in mediocrity if anything.

  • @churroboy4610
    @churroboy4610 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God im in so much pain (

  • @AmognusBalls69420
    @AmognusBalls69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Green teams ain't getting relegated

    • @SunsetVidsOfficial
      @SunsetVidsOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are predictions. They can be right or
      wrong or some green teams being relegated.

  • @MrOuchiez
    @MrOuchiez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    IDGAF #QUACKATTACK

  • @ddasher
    @ddasher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOU DIDNT PUT MINTY IN THE 13:11 LIST

    • @eliezersmarbleraces3137
      @eliezersmarbleraces3137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have noticed this.

    • @cooperc69420
      @cooperc69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the Glaciers, Wisps, Snowballs, and Rollers were still there. Probably an error on his part. It was the Minties, Jacks, Stars, and Ducks. (Almost forgot to put the Ducks there, just not used to them being in the showdown)

  • @seanshepherd1071
    @seanshepherd1071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not sure how you do it, but somehow you seem to consistently force teams to make a decent run at the championship by expecting them to do awfully.
    Last year it was the pinkies, and this year the snowballs.... Maybe for teams you want to win, you just have to insult them until they do....

  • @fan-gt5zm
    @fan-gt5zm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chocolatiers roast please?

  • @HailRider
    @HailRider 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Content stealing.

    • @killdozer7792
      @killdozer7792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Try harder next time. ;-)

  • @ALV5252
    @ALV5252 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man the Ducks and Primary not qualifying is very tragic.

    • @eliezersmarbleraces3137
      @eliezersmarbleraces3137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is, seems like their marbles couldn't control themselves.