Is it just me or does Howe's playing seem listless and uninspired? He's not comparing well with Andy Timmons in this video. I was a huge fan of the previous incarnations of Protocol, but this one...I'm not impressed yet.
IT'S NOT GREG'S PLAYING. IT'S THE FREAKIN MUSIC BY THE BAND LEADER. I SORRY TO SAY I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING SIMONS BAND SINCE HES BEEN A TEEN AGER WITH STANLEY CLARKE DAYS. AND NOT SINCE SYMBIOSIS HAS SIMON PHILLIPS WROTE GREAT FUSION MUSIC. I THINK SIMON HAS BEEN RESTING ON HIS LAURELS. FUSION IS DIFFERENT NOW A DAYS. YOU CANT COMPARE TO DAYS OF MAHAVISNU, RETURN TO FOREVER AND ELEVENTH HOUSE. AND SO MANY PURE GREAT POWER AND CREATIVE FUSION. TODAYS STUFF IS UN- INSPIRING. NOW THE STUFF LIKE GREG HOWES "EXTRACTION" WITH DENNIS CHAMBERS AND VICTOR WOOTEN.OR MAYBE LIKE STEVE SMITHS VITAL TECH TUNES WITH VICTOR AND SCOTT HENDERSON. VIRGIL DINATI TOUCH ON CREATIVE FUSION WITH " JUST ADD WATER" BACK IN 94 I THINK? IT JUST SEEMS THE MUSIC SIMON HAS WRITTEN LATELY IS LACKING COMPARED TO "SYMBOUISIS". ANOTHER GREAT DISPLAY OF CREATIVE FUSION IS JOHN SCOFIELD'S LIVE "PICK HITS". Even the PROTOCOL CD WITH ANDY TIMMONS WAS UNINSPIRING WITH SIMON PHILLIPS. SIMONS PLAYING IS HIT AND MISS FOR ME. DON'T GET ME WRONG, SIMON IS A GREAT DRUMMER, AND I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING SINCE HE HIT THE FUSION SCENE 35 or so ODD YEARS AGO. I don't know if it's me but sometimes I think Simon's playing comes off as being a cheap imagination of Cobham playing, but hey that is probably the best compliment to "BC"COBHAM. EVEN BILLY COBHAM CAN PLAY MANY VERSIONS OF "STRATUS " AND ALWAYS FRESH AND INSPIRED, INVENTIVE PLAYING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SIMON PLAY IN A POWER TRIO WITH VICTOR WOOTEN AND SAY SCOTT HENDERSON AND A TOTALLY OFF THE CHAINS GREG HOWE. SIMON NEEDS TO PUSH THE "OUT SIDE OF THE ENVELOPE ". SO TO SPEAK. I THINK I AND THE REAL FUSION WORLD LISTENERS WOULD CONSIDER IT A GREAT TREAT AND A GOOD TESTAMENT TO SIMON PHILLIPS PLAYING ABILITIES TO TO LAY IT ALL OUT THERE WITH WORLD CLASS MUSICIANS. IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. ALOT OF ALL KINDS OF MUSIC, NOT JUST FUSION IS UNINSPIRING TODAY. I THINK MILES DAVIS AND WHAT HE HAD STARTED 40 YEARS AGO WITH "BITCHES BREW" IS TURNING IN HIS GRAVE LOL IN A KIND WAY. I JUST THINK SIMON CAN PLAY HARDER AND MORE UNENCUMBERED, JUST LAY IT ALL OUT, AND NOT PLAY IT SAFE AND PERFECTLY. I HAVE TALKED WITH STEVE SMITH AND HE HAS GAVE ME GREAT INSIGHT OF PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANSHIP, AND POINTED ME IN GREAT DIRECTIONS OF GREAT DUSION MUSIC. I HAVE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR STEVE SMITH AND WHAT HE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO WORLD OF GREAT DRUMMERS AND DRUMMING.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD. I WENT AND SAW SIMON AND GREG HOWE AT YOSHIS IN OAKLAND CA. THERE TO I SAW SIMON AND ANDY TIMMONS. I FOUND BOTH CONCERTS UN-INSPIRING. THAT BEING SAID, I SAID TO MYSELF WHATS WRONG WITH PICTURE? WITH TWO GREAT CALIBUR OF FANTASTIC GUITARISTS. I JUST DIDN'T GET IT ON WHAT WAS CREATIVE MESSAGE COMING OUT OF BOTH BANDS. NOW AFTER THE SIMON AND GREG HOWE SHOW. I WAS WALKING OUT THE NIGHT CLUB AND I SAW GREGS NEW RELEASE " WHEELHOUSE". I SAID TO MY SELF I KNOW THIS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT I JUST SAW. DAMN IT SURE WAS RIGHT. POPPED THE CD IN ON THE RIDE HOME. DAMN RIGHT, NOW I KNOW THATS THE GREG HOWE THAT I KNOW HE CAN PLAY. GO CHECK IT OUT! AND YOU'LL SEE AND HERE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. GREG ALMOST ALWAYS PUT OUT FANTASTIC MUSIC WRITING AND PLAYING. IF ONLY SIMON WOULD LET HIS GUEST MUSICIANS CUT LOOSE AND MAYBE HIMSELF AS WELL WOULD BE IN FOR A GREAT TREAT. NOT SINCE RAY RUSSEL IN HIS BAND THAT I HAVE SEEN HIS CREATIVITY AT ITS HIGHTEST. JUST MY OBSERVATION. HELL EVEN SENRI GAWAGUCHI IS DOING A BETTER JOB OF PLAYING CREATIVE FUSION DRUMMING WITH PHILLIPE SAISE DID WHEN SIMON WAS DRUMMING WITH PHILLIPE. EVEN STEVE SMITH WITH HEROMI " BIG DRUMM SOLO LIVE" WAS VERY POWERFUL AND CREATIVE. YOU CAN BET, AND I CAN'T WAIT TILL SENRI & HEROMI GET TOGETHER. IT WILL BE SPECIAL. GO CHECK OUT GREG HOWES LATEST WHEELHOUSE AND ALSO WHAT EVER MR. MIKE STERN IS PLAYING NOW. THEIR FUSION IS ON A "ANOTHER LEVEL". AGAIN ITS ALL TO WHERE YOUR TASTE IS AT. AND ITS WHAT EVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT SO TO SPEAK. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT KNOW THAT MR. JOHN MCGLAUGHLIN IS SOMEWHAT RETIRED FROM TOURING, THAT IS ONE HALF OF THE MASTERMINDS THAT GAVE US THE ULTIMATE FUSION BAND THAT SET THE BAR FOR ALL ELSE TO BE COMPARED. THE OTHER HALF OF THAT MASTERMIND IS B.C. BILLY COBHAM. I SURE HOPE THE B.C. PLAYS FOR EVER LONG HE CAN HOLD HIS SICKS.
man, each night can be radically different from another - plus we have no idea if he had a shitty monitor mix, bad jet lag, was sick, etc... Ive seen vids of the same tour where scofield or robben ford sounded like shit on the same songs with the same bands on the same tour !
4:55 Start.
Great Music, a small venue, and a pretty good video! Thank you for keeping events like this alive for the future
Echt een held dat hij die technici af gaat. Respect.
starts @ 4:55
Where was this concert in Holland?
Cultuurpodium Boerderij Zoetermeer.
Hey, nice job, BC. Very steady camera hand.
Hard to jump after Wirkola.
Hoog-eind
Is it just me or does Howe's playing seem listless and uninspired? He's not comparing well with Andy Timmons in this video. I was a huge fan of the previous incarnations of Protocol, but this one...I'm not impressed yet.
IT'S NOT GREG'S PLAYING. IT'S THE FREAKIN MUSIC BY THE BAND LEADER. I SORRY TO SAY I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING SIMONS BAND SINCE HES BEEN A TEEN AGER WITH STANLEY CLARKE DAYS. AND NOT SINCE SYMBIOSIS HAS SIMON PHILLIPS WROTE GREAT FUSION MUSIC. I THINK SIMON HAS BEEN RESTING ON HIS LAURELS. FUSION IS DIFFERENT NOW A DAYS. YOU CANT COMPARE TO DAYS OF MAHAVISNU, RETURN TO FOREVER AND ELEVENTH HOUSE. AND SO MANY PURE GREAT POWER AND CREATIVE FUSION. TODAYS STUFF IS UN- INSPIRING. NOW THE STUFF LIKE GREG HOWES "EXTRACTION" WITH DENNIS CHAMBERS AND VICTOR WOOTEN.OR MAYBE LIKE STEVE SMITHS VITAL TECH TUNES WITH VICTOR AND SCOTT HENDERSON. VIRGIL DINATI TOUCH ON CREATIVE FUSION WITH " JUST ADD WATER" BACK IN 94 I THINK? IT JUST SEEMS THE MUSIC SIMON HAS WRITTEN LATELY IS LACKING COMPARED TO "SYMBOUISIS". ANOTHER GREAT DISPLAY OF CREATIVE FUSION IS JOHN SCOFIELD'S LIVE "PICK HITS". Even the PROTOCOL CD WITH ANDY TIMMONS WAS UNINSPIRING WITH SIMON PHILLIPS. SIMONS PLAYING IS HIT AND MISS FOR ME. DON'T GET ME WRONG, SIMON IS A GREAT DRUMMER, AND I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING SINCE HE HIT THE FUSION SCENE 35 or so ODD YEARS AGO. I don't know if it's me but sometimes I think Simon's playing comes off as being a cheap imagination of Cobham playing, but hey that is probably the best compliment to "BC"COBHAM. EVEN BILLY COBHAM CAN PLAY MANY VERSIONS OF "STRATUS " AND ALWAYS FRESH AND INSPIRED, INVENTIVE PLAYING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SIMON PLAY IN A POWER TRIO WITH VICTOR WOOTEN AND SAY SCOTT HENDERSON AND A TOTALLY OFF THE CHAINS GREG HOWE. SIMON NEEDS TO PUSH THE "OUT SIDE OF THE ENVELOPE ". SO TO SPEAK. I THINK I AND THE REAL FUSION WORLD LISTENERS WOULD CONSIDER IT A GREAT TREAT AND A GOOD TESTAMENT TO SIMON PHILLIPS PLAYING ABILITIES TO TO LAY IT ALL OUT THERE WITH WORLD CLASS MUSICIANS. IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. ALOT OF ALL KINDS OF MUSIC, NOT JUST FUSION IS UNINSPIRING TODAY. I THINK MILES DAVIS AND WHAT HE HAD STARTED 40 YEARS AGO WITH "BITCHES BREW" IS TURNING IN HIS GRAVE LOL IN A KIND WAY. I JUST THINK SIMON CAN PLAY HARDER AND MORE UNENCUMBERED, JUST LAY IT ALL OUT, AND NOT PLAY IT SAFE AND PERFECTLY. I HAVE TALKED WITH STEVE SMITH AND HE HAS GAVE ME GREAT INSIGHT OF PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANSHIP, AND POINTED ME IN GREAT DIRECTIONS OF GREAT DUSION MUSIC. I HAVE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR STEVE SMITH AND WHAT HE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO WORLD OF GREAT DRUMMERS AND DRUMMING.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD. I WENT AND SAW SIMON AND GREG HOWE AT YOSHIS IN OAKLAND CA. THERE TO I SAW SIMON AND ANDY TIMMONS. I FOUND BOTH CONCERTS UN-INSPIRING. THAT BEING SAID, I SAID TO MYSELF WHATS WRONG WITH PICTURE? WITH TWO GREAT CALIBUR OF FANTASTIC GUITARISTS. I JUST DIDN'T GET IT ON WHAT WAS CREATIVE MESSAGE COMING OUT OF BOTH BANDS. NOW AFTER THE SIMON AND GREG HOWE SHOW. I WAS WALKING OUT THE NIGHT CLUB AND I SAW GREGS NEW RELEASE " WHEELHOUSE". I SAID TO MY SELF I KNOW THIS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT I JUST SAW. DAMN IT SURE WAS RIGHT. POPPED THE CD IN ON THE RIDE HOME. DAMN RIGHT, NOW I KNOW THATS THE GREG HOWE THAT I KNOW HE CAN PLAY. GO CHECK IT OUT! AND YOU'LL SEE AND HERE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. GREG ALMOST ALWAYS PUT OUT FANTASTIC MUSIC WRITING AND PLAYING. IF ONLY SIMON WOULD LET HIS GUEST MUSICIANS CUT LOOSE AND MAYBE HIMSELF AS WELL WOULD BE IN FOR A GREAT TREAT. NOT SINCE RAY RUSSEL IN HIS BAND THAT I HAVE SEEN HIS CREATIVITY AT ITS HIGHTEST. JUST MY OBSERVATION. HELL EVEN SENRI GAWAGUCHI IS DOING A BETTER JOB OF PLAYING CREATIVE FUSION DRUMMING WITH PHILLIPE SAISE DID WHEN SIMON WAS DRUMMING WITH PHILLIPE. EVEN STEVE SMITH WITH HEROMI " BIG DRUMM SOLO LIVE" WAS VERY POWERFUL AND CREATIVE. YOU CAN BET, AND I CAN'T WAIT TILL SENRI & HEROMI GET TOGETHER. IT WILL BE SPECIAL. GO CHECK OUT GREG HOWES LATEST WHEELHOUSE AND ALSO WHAT EVER MR. MIKE STERN IS PLAYING NOW. THEIR FUSION IS ON A "ANOTHER LEVEL". AGAIN ITS ALL TO WHERE YOUR TASTE IS AT. AND ITS WHAT EVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT SO TO SPEAK. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT KNOW THAT MR. JOHN MCGLAUGHLIN IS SOMEWHAT RETIRED FROM TOURING, THAT IS ONE HALF OF THE MASTERMINDS THAT GAVE US THE ULTIMATE FUSION BAND THAT SET THE BAR FOR ALL ELSE TO BE COMPARED. THE OTHER HALF OF THAT MASTERMIND IS B.C. BILLY COBHAM. I SURE HOPE THE B.C. PLAYS FOR EVER LONG HE CAN HOLD HIS SICKS.
I MEANT BILLY COBHAM CAN HOLD HIS "STICKS"!!
man, each night can be radically different from another - plus we have no idea if he had a shitty monitor mix, bad jet lag, was sick, etc... Ive seen vids of the same tour where scofield or robben ford sounded like shit on the same songs with the same bands on the same tour !
@@larrypambid7501 you’re totally full of crap and just name dropping like a fan girl. This band is state of the art! Gtfoh!
Aucun intérêt pour moi.