I have 2 custom-made Vincent Bach mouthpieces: a screw-rim 8 rim,8E cup,22 throat & 117 backbore. The other is a 1 piece 2E 22 throat & 117 backbore with a cornet shank for using with piccolo tpt. You mentioned in one of your videos that you sing (in a choir I presume). I started sing in a church choir when I was 9 yrs old & still am a tenor. I was with a Barbershop quartet for a few years in the 1970s & even arranged songs. Over the years I would sing & play trumpet @ Easter or Christmas. I got my musical talent from my grandfather who could play every instrument in the orchestra! He had an Amati violin & would conduct a chuch choir from his violin. After he retired from General Motors, he went & taught @ a Catholic High School until he was about 84, he lived until 96. I'm learning a lot from your videos! Thanks for posting them.
Hi Jonathan and Greetings From Finland.I like you videos alot,this video is very interesting to know backbores.I used Monette B6S1 trumpet mouthpiece for my Yahama 3335s trumpet,dhis point i looking for second mouhtpiece somekind of trumpet/flugel(trumpet mouhtpiece..for jazz ballad playing
Juha; Greetings. If the Monette mouthpiece works for you - congrats! I've got a good friend here in Houston that uses a Monette most of the time. The throat size was quite a bit larger than I liked but we all have different preferences. The B6S1 is similar in rim size to a Bach 3C and the 3C is a very popular size, so finding a flugel/trumpet mouthpiece like that shouldn't be too hard. I always watch Ebay and I keep a real close eye at www.trumpetherald.com/marketplace.php - I rarely buy a new mouthpiece but have tried many (perhaps hundreds?) of used mouthpieces. Good luck and thanks for posting!
James - good point! When you've got a good mouthpiece that's working for you - stick with it. And never forget; as the great Rafael Mendez said, "...Scales, scales...And more scales"! :)
Nice review. Nowadays I get a Kanstul B3C top and 10 24 backbore.. Since january. And this Last week wedge M backbore arrives home. Nices pieces. Nice combination with my accent 950 trumpet. Now im wondering buy a tight backbore for commercial or lead part. Compatible with my Kanstul B3C top. Any sugestion, please.??? Thanks a lot for your patience...
Pablo; Good stuff! I had an Accent trumpet - it was a great player. For tight backbites I have a Warburton Qm, a Marciniewitc Ingram and a Trent Austin 'T' (stands for tight). They all do the job, some better with different cups than others. I use the Warburton Qm most often - it's pretty tight. :) I always buy used at Trumpetherald.com in the Marketplace or Ebay. Thanks for listening and for your kind comment also.
That's a good question. I've used both cornet and trumpet backbores from Warburton but I'm not sure if a 4 backbore for trumpet is the same size (hole) as a 4 backbore for cornet. I do know when I was looking for a cornet backbore last time I wanted a tighter blow so I put an ad at TrumpetHerald for a 2-4, I think someone offered me a 3 and I was very happy with it - I knew it wouldn't be too open (and I already had a VERY open cornet mouthpiece/backbore combon). Hope this helps!! If not, you can call the Warburton Co.; they're a small, very helpful crew.
Jurgen; Greetings - good to hear from you again. Really, these are 'finesse' points; they may not help everyone but for the right player in the right situation they can be very impactful. Take care, Jurgen. :)
+Jonathan Milam Sure, but the guy you are talking about is not me, definitely! I am still learning... By far I can play only one-octave scale of E major (actual E major), with a tuner of course. Without it, i am merely out of key... Well, i can extract higher notes, i.e. "third" note (Bb4), or even highter, but i dont really control the process... I cant get consciously them. By far Bb3 and F4 are my only steady, reliable notes... That's why I came to the point, that maybe a proper mouthpiece might be a solution. I do have only one, and to be honest, I am not really sure, which one is it... Perhaps, you could help me to identify it? And if my mouthpiece is not really good one for a beginner, I will buy another one. p.s. Do they really affect playability, or just a tone, anyway?
Usually mouthpiece choice is not too important for a beginner - as long as the mouthpiece, horn and fit are ok. In the U.S., the Bach 7C is the most common mouthpiece. Average diameter and very common. Most 7C's are similar in size and most all companies make a 7C or equivalent. It needs to fit snugly in the trumpet receiver and should yield a tone with some ease - but when starting everything can be a challenge. :) At the start, tone is most important. Pick a note thats comfortable for you, high or low, and make it as pretty as possible. Most pro's begin every session warming up with long tones - searching for a pretty tone... Without this, there's nothing to do. Strangely, when starting as a beginner, finding a nice tone can be a challenge in itself. :)
Jurgen; I really like this guys videos. He's a top trumpeter in anyone's opinion and great at helping us at the basics, too. Here he talks about how to form our embouchure, or our lips on the mouthpiece... Great stuff - check out as many of his vids as you can - he's got great tips. Enjoy! :) th-cam.com/video/nuyiyc2Pi7Y/w-d-xo.html
Sean, my pleasure. I could go into a lot more detail about each of the different mouthpiece options. While the different pieces may not hold benefit for everyone, any small point can make a huge difference for the right player or in the right situation. Take care and keep in touch!
Yadiel, the 3C is played by Arturo Sandoval, one of the best trumpeters in the world. Here's an example of him playing... th-cam.com/video/Z6Muwxbku5k/w-d-xo.html Let me know what you think of that song, ok? I think it's one of the best arranged songs I've heard. I love the rhythm changes throughout. And those high notes he hits...lol... Crazy, isn't it? Anyway, the 3C is a great piece if you can handle it. A bit large for my fit - but a great piece for great trumpeter's.
+Jonathan Milam Thanks. In jazz band my band director showed me one of his song becaused he thought that I was like him. I love how the 3c gives such a great tone and I didn't know he had a 3c, maybe that's why band director thought that I sounded like him.
I have 2 custom-made Vincent Bach mouthpieces: a screw-rim 8 rim,8E cup,22 throat & 117 backbore. The other is a 1 piece 2E 22 throat & 117 backbore with a cornet shank for using with piccolo tpt. You mentioned in one of your videos that you sing (in a choir I presume). I started sing in a church choir when I was 9 yrs old & still am a tenor. I was with a Barbershop quartet for a few years in the 1970s & even arranged songs. Over the years I would sing & play trumpet @ Easter or Christmas. I got my musical talent from my grandfather who could play every instrument in the orchestra! He had an Amati violin & would conduct a chuch choir from his violin. After he retired from General Motors, he went & taught @ a Catholic High School until he was about 84, he lived until 96. I'm learning a lot from your videos! Thanks for posting them.
Hi Jonathan and Greetings From Finland.I like you videos alot,this video is very interesting to know backbores.I used Monette B6S1 trumpet mouthpiece for my Yahama 3335s trumpet,dhis point i looking for second mouhtpiece somekind of trumpet/flugel(trumpet mouhtpiece..for jazz ballad playing
Juha; Greetings. If the Monette mouthpiece works for you - congrats! I've got a good friend here in Houston that uses a Monette most of the time. The throat size was quite a bit larger than I liked but we all have different preferences. The B6S1 is similar in rim size to a Bach 3C and the 3C is a very popular size, so finding a flugel/trumpet mouthpiece like that shouldn't be too hard. I always watch Ebay and I keep a real close eye at www.trumpetherald.com/marketplace.php - I rarely buy a new mouthpiece but have tried many (perhaps hundreds?) of used mouthpieces. Good luck and thanks for posting!
HI Jonathan can you make review video of BestBrass"groove"trumpet mouhtpieces? best wishes from Finland
Great review Jon! What will they think of next? Those are some very interesting mouthpieces. But I would rather stick to my Bach 3C :).
James - good point! When you've got a good mouthpiece that's working for you - stick with it. And never forget; as the great Rafael Mendez said, "...Scales, scales...And more scales"! :)
Nice review. Nowadays I get a Kanstul B3C top and 10 24 backbore.. Since january. And this Last week wedge M backbore arrives home. Nices pieces. Nice combination with my accent 950 trumpet. Now im wondering buy a tight backbore for commercial or lead part. Compatible with my Kanstul B3C top. Any sugestion, please.??? Thanks a lot for your patience...
Pablo; Good stuff! I had an Accent trumpet - it was a great player. For tight backbites I have a Warburton Qm, a Marciniewitc Ingram and a Trent Austin 'T' (stands for tight). They all do the job, some better with different cups than others. I use the Warburton Qm most often - it's pretty tight. :) I always buy used at Trumpetherald.com in the Marketplace or Ebay. Thanks for listening and for your kind comment also.
Do the size recommendations for the warburton backbores apply only for their trumpet backbores or do they apply for cornet backbores as well?
That's a good question. I've used both cornet and trumpet backbores from Warburton but I'm not sure if a 4 backbore for trumpet is the same size (hole) as a 4 backbore for cornet. I do know when I was looking for a cornet backbore last time I wanted a tighter blow so I put an ad at TrumpetHerald for a 2-4, I think someone offered me a 3 and I was very happy with it - I knew it wouldn't be too open (and I already had a VERY open cornet mouthpiece/backbore combon). Hope this helps!! If not, you can call the Warburton Co.; they're a small, very helpful crew.
Thank you sir,
very useful video indeed!
Jurgen; Greetings - good to hear from you again. Really, these are 'finesse' points; they may not help everyone but for the right player in the right situation they can be very impactful. Take care, Jurgen. :)
+Jonathan Milam
Sure, but the guy you are talking about is not me, definitely! I am still learning...
By far I can play only one-octave scale of E major (actual E major), with a tuner of course. Without it, i am merely out of key...
Well, i can extract higher notes, i.e. "third" note (Bb4), or even highter, but i dont really control the process... I cant get consciously them. By far Bb3 and F4 are my only steady, reliable notes...
That's why I came to the point, that maybe a proper mouthpiece might be a solution. I do have only one, and to be honest, I am not really sure, which one is it...
Perhaps, you could help me to identify it? And if my mouthpiece is not really good one for a beginner, I will buy another one.
p.s. Do they really affect playability, or just a tone, anyway?
Usually mouthpiece choice is not too important for a beginner - as long as the mouthpiece, horn and fit are ok. In the U.S., the Bach 7C is the most common mouthpiece. Average diameter and very common. Most 7C's are similar in size and most all companies make a 7C or equivalent. It needs to fit snugly in the trumpet receiver and should yield a tone with some ease - but when starting everything can be a challenge. :) At the start, tone is most important. Pick a note thats comfortable for you, high or low, and make it as pretty as possible. Most pro's begin every session warming up with long tones - searching for a pretty tone... Without this, there's nothing to do. Strangely, when starting as a beginner, finding a nice tone can be a challenge in itself. :)
Jurgen; I really like this guys videos. He's a top trumpeter in anyone's opinion and great at helping us at the basics, too. Here he talks about how to form our embouchure, or our lips on the mouthpiece... Great stuff - check out as many of his vids as you can - he's got great tips. Enjoy! :) th-cam.com/video/nuyiyc2Pi7Y/w-d-xo.html
Jonathan Milam
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
thank you!!
Sean, my pleasure. I could go into a lot more detail about each of the different mouthpiece options. While the different pieces may not hold benefit for everyone, any small point can make a huge difference for the right player or in the right situation. Take care and keep in touch!
I also have a bach 3c, it's the only mouthpiece I have bought.
Yadiel, the 3C is played by Arturo Sandoval, one of the best trumpeters in the world. Here's an example of him playing... th-cam.com/video/Z6Muwxbku5k/w-d-xo.html Let me know what you think of that song, ok? I think it's one of the best arranged songs I've heard. I love the rhythm changes throughout. And those high notes he hits...lol... Crazy, isn't it? Anyway, the 3C is a great piece if you can handle it. A bit large for my fit - but a great piece for great trumpeter's.
+Jonathan Milam Thanks. In jazz band my band director showed me one of his song becaused he thought that I was like him. I love how the 3c gives such a great tone and I didn't know he had a 3c, maybe that's why band director thought that I sounded like him.
Great job and thanks for replying the comments. keep up the good work!