No matter how much I learn about T. rex, I still can't get my head over the fact this animal was alive once. Not a fictional monster or anything, it was an actual thing, living and breathing with all these crazy stats.
To be fair to rexy, by the time of JW she is quite elderly fighting against creatures at the height of their youth so it does makes sense she struggled in the fights.
Plus it's all up to the whims of the writer(s). They could have easily mader her super OP and win every single fight she got in without breaking much of a sweat but, that doesn't really make for good movie making.
@@LeCumminz Against Indy, maybe. Against Giga, may wanna hold it there. You can't forget the Dominion prologue where they first fought. I don't know if we know this for sure, but wouldn't it be fair to assume that Rexy was in her prime at that time? If so, then I don't think a 1v1 between them is changing much. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@@Kaidhicksii Fair, but we don’t have enough information on that fight, Rexy could have been also quite old or too young during it, she could have been somewhat starved or sick, or simply put the Giga of the memory could have been the strongest specimen of their species making it akin to a world championship fight to the death.
While I will always preffer the accurate t-rex far more than any other ficticios adaptation of it I will still have a special spot on my heart for the jp rex due to the nostalgia that I have for the first and second movies of the franchise.
@@amandacham3042 im just kinda wanting the trex to have 1 good scrap in the show. Seeing a small trex get pulled up on by two quetz was cool but show us a big one dammit
What makes this even crazier... Is that another Scientist has a T-Rex Specimen called Bertha, who is currently writing a paper on it, and this scientist claims that Bertha is EVEN BIGGER THAN E.D. COPE! Also, consider tha Rexy didn't catch and eat Clair because she's Flair Trained. She's not pursuing, but following.
If this is really true, then my dream I had a year ago is true because I saw T-Rex being much more bigger than what we currently have discovered. They're like what you would call Dragons, I kid you not, and ruled over the unicorns, which aren't what you would expect but are Trikes and a large mammal like bull or rino of some sort.
I'd be sceptical about this. It gets a lot of attention simply for it being sensetional. But these sensations in the real science don't last. Similarly to scavenger rex that was also got big attention and even tho it was already disproven many times, it keeps comming back in public circles - not so much in science ones tho. I feel like the 70% bigger is another one of those sensations with no real support in larger scientific community.
In my opinion the number one thing to take into consideration in the fiction of JP as far as inaccuracies of the Rex or any other Dino for that matter is that they were essentially approximations of Dinosaurs. They did not have the entire genetic code and made up parts of it as they went along. I think things like the messed up vision would easily be explained by humans messing with the code and messing something up. The Dinos were not pure specimens that would compare to the originals because they were heavily modified just to exist in the first place.
For the most part, I agree with you. But one important thing to remember about Jurassic Park, is that Grant was commenting on the T-Rex's vision before he even knew about the park. So according to the Jurassic Park universe, this was supposed to be the typical vision for the T-Rex. (Unless Grant just got lucky and he had some wild conjecture that happened to be true with Rexy.)
I hate this "they had genetic alterations" excuse because it's just that: a cheap excuse to justify scientific inaccuracies resulting from writers being either lazy to conduct proper research or, worse, deliberately spreading misinformation because it "looks good in the movie." Just like the scientific advisor of JP3 said about the Spinosaurus defeating the T-rex: "We know that at the time it couldn't defeat the T-rex because it ate fish, but we wanted a big carnivore to kill the T-rex, and it looked good in the movie." The dinosaurs weren't represented as genetically engineered creatures; they were always portrayed as the real thing. Everyone who watched Jurassic Park and watches Jurassic World today assumes that this is how dinosaurs looked. In my opinion, they have the intellectual responsibility to be accurate with what they show. The script doesn't need lies to be good.
@@triplocore Those inaccuracies are mostly from incomplete information about dinos in the book Jurassic Park is adapted from. In 1990 when it was written it was considered to be extremely accurate. 33 years later errors have corrected and many new things about dinosaurs have been discovered. Also the book and movies call them Velocirators (the real thing is only the size of a cat) but they are actually Utahraptors of which the first specimens were found in the early 1990s.
@@triplocore You argue that "The dinosaurs weren't represented as genetically engineered creatures; they were always portrayed as the real thing." Except of course, the movie literally spells it out for us, with a fancy presentation and all, that these are genetically engineered creatures. But you don't want to hear that, you regard that as merely an excuse. Meaning, you're just looking for an argument, presumably just for arguments sake. You can also read the book, which is still popular and widely available. In it, you'll learn how the park dinosaurs were very specifically designed to make John Hammond the most amount of money, because that's all he cares about. He doesn't care about accuracy and it's made abundantly clear that these are genetically engineer dinosaurs.
Like you said, there's just no way to give this to Rexy when she consistently gets thrashed by everything in her weight class. The loss against the Indominus would have been understandable since the Indominus was set up as an unnatural monster above all other dinosaurs. But any implied power scaling from that was thrown out the window when Rexy proceeded to get clowned on by the Giga. Plot armor is the only thing stopping the real Rex from taking an easy win.
Yeah, but (1) Rexy was 30-35 years old, which is really old for a T. rex, and (2) the Giga was a bit exaggerated for dramatic purposes. Based on what we know about both animals, T. rex has most of the advantages in that fight. Giga has *maybe* a very slight height advantage, while T. rex has better intelligence, vision, agility, bite force, body mass, etc.
I actually thought both those fights were great examples of Rexy's more formidable intelligence. When direct overpowering doesn't work, she fights smarter. She uses not just her own physical power, but also uses the environment and greater mass of both opponents to her advantage.
The same with the spinossaur. What makes me even mad is that at JP3 time they knew already that the Spino didnt had chance against the T-rex, but they was trying to find a carnivor to kill him, and as the scientific adivisor said: "We know that at the time it couldn't defeat the T-rex because it ate fish, but we wanted a big carnivore to kill the T-rex, and it looked good in the movie."
funny thing is... rexy's vision may actually have improved over time as there are plenty of moments in JW, CC, JWFK and dominion where she was clearly responding to something "standing still."
That is a possibility, it could be possible the vision part in JP could either be a defect because the team wanted to get a dino out quickly and the poor eyesight is one, but it is possible the poor eyesight is due to being dark out and storming which for most animals, this sort of environment needs specialization to hunt/roam in. However it is possible the poor eye sight might be entirely wrong in Grant's case as he did admit a few yet subtle that he was wrong in some regards, as for JP3, it is possible the Rex there is determining if the humans are prey since, admittedly if I was an animal and say hairless apes walking up right, not knowing what the fuck that is, I be figuring out whether a calcium intake is safe. (Yea my only excuse for the rex to go after them.) Infact, I think the reason in JP2, the chase, despite being at night, the rex could be investigating a smell, it was stomping from afar but it some how didnt wake anyone up, but noticed the lights flashing. Please correct me on this but if the Rex is accurate, its biggest weakness is to rub its front part of its upper mouth as chances are, its gonna be wandering what the fuck did you just do?
I think it's hilarious that the more we learn about T Rex, the more we realize that not only was the JP rex NOT a movie monster depiction, but they actually nerfed the hell out of the T Rex in these films.
Yes and no. In the 1990s, that would have been considered pretty accurate for dinosaur science at the time. It's just that they kept finding new things throughout the years.
Tbh the adult rexes aren't the problem if you're a human or medium size animal, it's the Juveniles and adolescent rexes you need to worry about, Adults are ambush predators but the young are predominantly pursuit predators due to being smaller and would likely to run down smaller prey or hunting in packs to take down larger prey by employing Hit and Run with crushing bites onto limbs or neck.
Tbf there’s also the equally accepted hypothesis that the adults were also pursuit predators who could “power walk” their prey down while reserving a great deal of stamina with their hip driven gait. Mind you, the power walk wasn’t slow and things like Trike’s weren’t fast. I’d say it’s acceptable to put adult rexes as utilising bot ambush and pursuit methods of hunting.
@festyfestiva I heard a theory proposed by a scientist that Trex would intentionally chase things into shallow water. Specifically, edmontosaurus, as it was faster on land when running at full speed, but turns out in water, the Rex was significantly faster
Damn, I sure am glad to have found this channel as a bit of a paleo nerd myself. :D Really interesting video topics you choose. Gonna binge-watch many of them, just dropped by from your recent theropod tier list.
Something Ive found interesting about more modern studies of the Trex is how it might have sounded. Instead of the reversed and mixed lion roar we got in the movies, it might have been more of a low frequency rumble that would be felt as much as heard.
That new sound is just a guess. All predator Avian dinos today don't do that Eagles, Hawks and Falcons all scream. The Rex more than likely did the same.
Would also be interested to hear your perspective if accurate dinosaurs would scare audiences. I used to really prefer the JP style Dinos but the more I’ve learned about their accurate representation the more I find the actual animals terrifying. Great video!
That isnt really a factor on the real dinosaurs so much as its just on the portrayal which is then liable to humanization tropes, other animal personification through the dinosaurs, or monster exaggeration like what JW does portraying I. Rex more like aliens rather than Dinosaurs, which was my issue with Blue, Idomeneus and the I. raptors. They didnt seem to behave believably to me. Real dinosaurs would likely be no more or less scarier than Hippos, crocodiles or Elephants. Intimidating size but only situationally aggressive, and in real life they wouldn't want to get hurt unlike the movie monsters that fight to the death at all times.
T.rex has always been my favorite dinosaur. Rexy is an iconic pop culture character and she’s awesome. The paleo-accurate T.rex is also amazing, such a great animal and Prehistoric Planet showed us how amazing it could be. No matter who loses between them in a fight, it’s safe to say that T.rex is and always will be an amazing creature. Love em both!
6:54 the good thing is she's been able to bypass it. Once she heard a noise and upon investigating, she noticed a cardboard. Although it was standing still (and not making the noise anymore), she still rushed towards it, showing she can recognize people trying to capitalize on her weakness.
Rexy lost to the Giga because plot. Rexy losing to the Indom actually is easily understood. She started to lose when Indom began to use her arms with opposable thumbs, to which Rexy was unfamiliar. After Blue came in and Rexy laying prone disappeared from frame, it took only 7 seconds for Rexy to re-enter the fight and thrashed the hybrid, never letting it use its hands in the fight.
@@ditokhutsishvili2106No, but it had most of the advantages compared to other large theropods. More robust build, higher intelligence, binocular vision (and the depth perception that comes with it), better agility despite the heavier build, and the highest bite force of any terrestrial animal by a long shot. Bite force is often an overrated metric, but not when T. rex gets neck bites on its opponent and they somehow don’t get their throats crushed immediately, because the plot needs them to live.
In reality, all the fights where Rexy landed early bites to the necks of her opponents would be over then and there. Other dinos could survive peripheral bites from a rex, but the neck is both soft and vital. Rexy would have bitten down hard and it would be all over.
A few updates while trying to keep it "realistic" with no real higher end powerscaling involved, Rexy still likely has the advantage. JP's Ankylosaurus' tail clubs are said to strike with 50,000 newtons. Indominus takes a club to the neck/face and is relatively okay and keeps fighting. Rexy even in the first round performs vastly better than the Ankylosaurus, and in round two dominated the genetic freak. Indominus' weight of 6 tons is likely outdated, as multiple sources have listed her at 55 feet long in her World appearance-as large as the 9-13 ton Giga from head to tail (though he is a good bit taller). And in a rather new message by Collin, he cited Rexy at 10.6 metric tons, not as large as Cope for sure, but given that mass and being still well able to run at 32 mph if the two beasts were to clash, though she weighs less she'd generate much more kinetic force. She is as physically powerful as the Indominus rex-multiple sources confirm this and the battle itself should if anything show that she's superior though Indom wasn't in peak condition, so Rexy could on paper match the psycho slaughter feat on the Apatosaurus herd (though the Dino Tracker shows her backing off after getting a tail whip to the face). Losing to the Giganotosaurus also isn't too big of a loss and I dunno why people keep pretending JP rex is weak when Giga is able to crush a T.rex neck with one or two bites as shown in the prologue and kill them instantly. The same Rexes that in the modern day bash their heads through buses, shatter small buildings and get thrown around by their neck by super weapon hybrids and get right back up. The Giga is just a monster. It's also been stated this behemoth attempts to hunt Dreadnoughtus alone. A nice attempt though my friend, and it's nice to see someone not just say "hurr durr Rexy lose to Indom/Giga, weakling!!!"
Notice that the Indominus Rex rolls with the hit from the Ankylosaurus, much like an experienced boxer. Physics analysis tells us increasing the time of the strike decreases the effective force felt by the I-Rex, so it’s entirely plausible that it could tank the hit with the methods it used. It’s a well done scene when you think about it.
@@Mobius118 Not really, she gets hit, falls and braces her fall with her arms. After she tries to bite over the top, failing and gets whacked aside again. This hit to the side/legs does nearly nothing to her but it wasn't as good a strike. She essentially got laid out but recovered quickly.
Seeing rexy's battles and movies , she is abnormally agile and fast for a rex but her biteforce is trash , when she is hunting gallis she literally needs to trash it to kill it and it follows up with her almost never crushing/kill anything , she always needs to use slam or do things like that .
they downgrade rexes in the franchise b/c they think other dinosaurs like spino and giga should get the spotlight. well i say rexy is too iconic of a character to be disrespected like she was in the last movie!
@@umacoisa3870 no because Tyrannosaurus rex in real life was much heavier than we thought. That’s a mansion and lost the fight against a spinosaurus and a tarbosaurs
If we’re even using the Sue and Scotty specimens they would win without a problem in rexes at the other Jurassic franchise, rexes, or not experience fighters, with the exception of of course the buck rex but still, he would probably get his ass kicked as well
@@tyrannotherium7873 Literally just upscales the dinosaurs since the point of them was to be stronger than the trex and not to be weak just to make the trex even weaker. Rexy ragdolled Indom who is 10-11.5 tons and giga who is 9-15 tons.
There are some scientists that think T-Rex may have been smart enough to have a primitive form of culture like orcas, as that could have been a factor in the success of the species.
As much as I love Rexy and Jurassic Park, The JP rexes were only a threat in the first and second movie but became jokes and unable to win any fight against anything in later movies. So minus plot armor and every dinosaur under the sun helping Jp Rex. Paleo would win with not much of a challenge, since they are used to fighting themselves.
More recent research suggests the real thing, in addition to potentially having a much larger upper size than previously thought, may have been able to run after all. This same research suggest it could potentially have reached speeds of around 25 km/h. So, still not super fast, but way faster than prior estimates. Nearly half of JP's T-Rex.
I've often wondered if those enormous eyes T-Tex had gave them superior night vision as well. How terrifying would a night hunting Tyrannosaur be? What if, instead of being a pursuit or ambush predator, T-Rex was the first ninja dinosaur?
Finally, a plausible theory to partially make an honest attempt to "dubunk" the scavenger theory. ... I mean rexie could have been a hybrid of 50% scavenger and 50% stealth"ninja" ambush attacker. Who knows, there could have been a special padding on her feet to severely muffle stepping sounds for all we know. All the evidence from what I have read points to rex just not being fast enough to be the traditional "run them down" predator, that so very many trex fangirls have been bamboozled into believing.
Since they no longer exist and less 1 percent of fossils ever fossilize I don't see how we really know what these animals were like. But sure... do more videos... this was fun 🙂
Small, gentle correction; As somebody who used to work in fibreglass boatbuilding, fibreglass is *not* 'pound for pound, stronger than steel' it's *AS strong as steel for a given weight* ie it has a greater strength-to-weight ratio.
Not to mention the JP rexes in the first movie were taken from samples of tissue from mosquitoes in amber and pieced together with other animal DNA so it would be slightly different than a true trex
I really think we all know what would happen if Rexy met a Prehistoric Planet Rex. Rexy: Fight me!! Prehistoric Rex Male: No. Let's mate. Rexy: .....okie dokie
@@theheroverse5191 I’ll tell you MY reasoning. 1. Rexy has a few feats of intellectual prowess, whilst Scotty and T. Rexes in general we’re likely has smart as Ravens and maybe even Bonobos. (We of course gotta use the more recent, more accurate studies) 2. Even if we assume Rexy and Scotty have an equally powerful bite, Rexy has been showcased to bite and let go instead of biting and crushing like a T. Rex would, this would make Rexy’s bite more ineffective. (Rexy has just comically has a way worst bite anyway) 3. Rexy was in containment for most of her life while Scotty would have to compete with other Rexes and learn to hunt creatures like the Ankylosaurus and Triceratops, this gives Scotty battle IQ. I believe Rexy gets experience because I think she is older then Scotty was when she was alive. I’ll give Rexy durability though it is debatable. Rexy looked visibly skinny and shrink wrapped in all of her movies whilst Rexes in general were very musclier, noticeably more then Rexy. (This isn’t a point for strength) Rexy is around seven plus tons whilst Scotty is ten plus tons in weight.
I love the movies , it always makes me laugh how everyone seems to have a different opinion about how T rex looked and size etc. firstly we have the bones, so we know the size. No one knows the colour or sound of any of the dinosaurs. I can’t see how the speed etc and natural behaviour is any more than a educated guess. ( which I respect)
Also because of the feet padding just like what david attenborough said in prehistoric planet , the real t rex was surprisingly stealthy unlike the stomping rexy like she always have a tendency of roaring before hunting and overal very loud
3:20 have you ever went chasing after something smaller than you. Like when I'm chasing my cats around trying not to out run them, combined with them being smaller and having to bend down to grab them. Yeah I can see. When you can easily outrun your prey who is smaller than you, you have to slow down your natural speed while bending over to grab it so yeah makes it a but harder
According to paleontologist, David Hone, T-Rex could most likely reach speeds comparable to an Olympic sprinter and could maintain that speed for an extended period of time.
Even tho i disagree with some points due to powerscaling and calculations, this video really made me smile because Rexy is so goddamn undderated, everyone calls her a weak fodder that couldn't beat a tarbosaur, im glad someone finnaly gives Rexy the respect, even tho Cope still won in the video
I plan to make my own fair analysis which is less biased. Unlike this one, in my analysis video it'll be less biased and will lean more towards Rexy's favour.
When you talk about the bite force, the dino tracker website list rexy's bite at ONLY about 7500-7700 psi. While yes, there are other statements, dinotracker is a canon website, so I felt to point it out lol
Pretty good video Overseer. Though if I have to be honest, I don't quite get the difference between "logic" and scaling, as it is the same to me. The feats of Rexy don't change based on us calculating them or not. I *definitely* agree that it would be boring and uninteresting though, if Rexy just killed the real Rex in one hit due to having hundreds of times stronger feats and what not, so I understand your point and the point of this video, but these feats are still kinda canon. I might be wrong but to me, analysis like these are a "Mike Tyson vs Superman" kinda fight, where you don't consider the feats of Superman that much and determine the winner by who is more experienced and has the better corporal build. I understand and respect if you have a different opinion, to me, I don't like making a fictional character more realistic to give a real life version of it a chance.
Do you think Rexy would have done better in fights against other therapods if she had grown up in the wild competing with other rexes rather than alone in a zoo?
This is a damn great video! I haven't finished watching this but I'm really enjoying this video! No biased rubbish, all facts. And you're Australian! Finally, someone that makes Dinosaur videos that is from Australia! I have a few questions on editing tips, I been working on a video 'bout Majungasaurus and when I speak in the video, you could hear me trying to catch my breath, should I cut them all out? And when editing, do I edit the whole video or edit bits of them and piece them together to avoid errors?
Thank you, and as far as editing goes. I’d recommend cutting out all parts of you catching your breath and piece everything together to ensure a smooth flow. And you should edit the whole video to ensure the best quality. It’s worth spending the extra time to edit!
I have heard theories that not only did T. Rex fight others, but that many of the rather serious head and neck injuries are actually caused by biting to hold on during mating, not combat.
So we already know that Rexy is physically stronger because of throwing and tossing the 11 ton indom, and even the 15 ton Giga But Rexy ALSO seems to be more durable to since we know that the Ankys tell swing is 400 megapasicals (26 tons of force) And that wasn’t fully able to break through the GyroSphere, while indom’s claws WERE able to, making them 26+ tons of force, and Rexy was shown to tank those same claws and withstand them And irl Rex was already shown to be critically damaged from a irl Rex bite (which is weaker than the jw Anky’s 400 mgp tale swing) So Rexy is stronger, more durable, AND is faster/agile. So because she has more combat advantages, Rexy solos
The indom was only 6 tonnes not 11 tons and the giga was only 10 tonnes, not 15, also the indom "PIERCE" the GyroSphere she didn't swing at it like the ankylo did so for obvious reasons your logic is wrong, the moment rexy comes close to a irl 12 ton rex she'll get pinned to the ground with one bite and she doesn't have the mass to break free
I’ll tell you MY reasoning. 1. Rexy has a few feats of intellectual prowess, whilst Scotty and T. Rexes in general we’re likely has smart as Ravens and maybe even Bonobos. (We of course gotta use the more recent, more accurate studies) 2. Even if we assume Rexy and Scotty have an equally powerful bite, Rexy has been showcased to bite and let go instead of biting and crushing like a T. Rex would, this would make Rexy’s bite more ineffective. (Rexy has just comically has a way worst bite anyway) 3. Rexy was in containment for most of her life while Scotty would have to compete with other Rexes and learn to hunt creatures like the Ankylosaurus and Triceratops, this gives Scotty battle IQ. I believe Rexy gets experience because I think she is older then Scotty was when she was alive. I’ll give Rexy durability though it is debatable. Rexy looked visibly skinny and shrink wrapped in all of her movies whilst Rexes in general were very musclier, noticeably more then Rexy. (This isn’t a point for strength) Rexy is around seven plus tons whilst Scotty is ten plus tons in weight. Btw I pretty sure the Indominus was only six tons while the Giga was fourteen - fifteen. Impressive? Sure, but dragging around an animal slightly above your own weight ain’t ALL that impressive. I bet you can debunk at least some of what I said though.
@@paleospino4956 My brother in Christ, out of the other people that replied to this comment, yours is the only one that is worth my time, because of your more dedication behind your reasoning. So let’s discuss: 1. W (I basically agree) 2. No, Scotty definitely has a more powerful bite force, especially in their exact numbers in psi or newtons or in any other way you want to measure it. 3. While yes, she was in containment in her life… you also have to acknowledge Rexy being able to remember herself from 65 million years ago, Thus having all of that battle experience from the past, IN ADDITION to her years when she wasn’t contained (which was after the events of JP, all the way through her re-containment for JW Along with her life in the events of FK And the rest of her life living on the mainland with all the other dinosaurs (dominion) So really, Rexy would have more battle IQ through her much longer experience. 4. No, it’s really not even that debatable (respectfully), Rexy was consistently shown to tank being slammed or thrown to the ground in her fights. While irl Rex’s are scientifically proven to be critically injured if it were to fall over. + the sauropod tails that can break the sound barrier were proven to do critical damage to an irl Rex, while Rexy was shown to tank it just fine 🤷🏾♂️ (in the canon website called Dino tracker, and yes, the jw apatosaurus’s tale wip is confirmed to be able to break the sound barrier) So Rexy is definitely more durable, no questions asked. 5. Yes, she was canonically supposed to look skinny and shrink wrapped in the events of JW - FK because they said they wanted her to look like she was aging after all these years. But definitely NOT in all of her movies since when you look at her more (canonically) prime self (jurassic Park Rexy), she is much more muscular/bulkier and in a better state, and doesn’t have much bones being exposed like her older self does. And if you are wondering about dominion Rexy, she was canonically restored BACK to her JP self, where they LITERALLY Gave all of her muscle and bulk back to her model, which you can visually see in film. I actually made a video on this, showing the difference in muscle between her prime and older self, you can check it out if you want. 6. You’re basing that off of JW Rexy tho, JWD Rexy was wanked up to 10.58 Tons, Thus Rexy and Scotty would be pretty equal in weight. 7. Like what Glen said, universal PERSONALLY stepped in to deliver canon sizes. They are ACTIVELY going against their database to not only ensure the dinosaurs scale within the movies align with their personally drawn sizes but to make sure they stay to true or as close as possible to their true sizes. Hence why they drew a chart for Colin and had him tell Glen to keep their scale as close to that as possible. They are that size within the film and these are the sizes universal has as canon So any other jw source giving off Indom’s weight would be directly disproven, via the actual CREATORS in universal themselves. So their official sizes are as stated: Indom: 9.5 tonnes (10.49 tons) to 10.5 tonnes (11.5 tons) Giga: 13.61 tonnes (15.00 tons). 8. Sure, but it’s still a better feat of strength for Rexy. Ay, this is still fun conversing with you, that’s all that matters 🤷🏾♂️
@@davemiller6055 Yes it is. Name one big ass animal that's as gangly looking as Rexy. Name one. Show me an Elephant that's as gangly as Rexy. Because an animal of that stature would need a lot of fat AND muscle to support their weight. And having teeth outside of the lips is pointless since it rots faster and is prone to breaking.
3:15;In short you would need to be in a car in clear area like a road to beable to get to 4th gear speed to have ANY chance of getting away from it!Without it,YOU'RE A MEAL!
One of the more interesting things that was discovered is that T-rex were ambush hunters. So they could walk quietly unlike rexy Also I’m a land before time baby, so when I learned that t-rex was mostly likely a pretty powerful swimmer I was SHOCKED XD little kid me couldn’t believe it. Discovering new things so often about the dinosaurs is why I think we need more documentaries more often
Rexy has a really weak bite force. Imagine she would have the bite force of an average accurate Rex… she would literally one shot the I-Rex and JW Giga. This is a common problem with JP/JW Rexs, they all have really weak bite force Also accurate Rex will take agility, it could dodge charging trikes. Just imagine Rexy had this agility. Most likely the I-Rex and Giga would Not even able to hit Rexy
Indom and giga were made to be stronger and more durable than her. what's the point of having a dinosaur to fight the trex, which the dino is stronger and more durable to be one shotted bcs of "bite force", even if rexy had the bite of an average or the biggest trex, neither Indom nor giga would be one shotted by rexy due to the narratives and statements that say they are to be more powerful, stronger and more durable than her.
What I don't understand about Rexy: If her bite force is so great then why was she only dealing mild damage to the Indom or the Giga? She grabbed the Indom by it's NECK, how did she not rip it's head off with that kind of bite force? Makes no sense.
Couple years ago an accurate T Rex would have been covered in full plumage. Maybe it will be again in a couple more years. Maybe put an asterisk by "accurate". We'll never know for sure.
Also remember that Rexy is a captive animal, it doesn't know how to hunt. A real life wild T-Rex knows how to hunt from watching its parent and hunting on a regular basis all throughout its life. Its body with a greater amount of soft tissue like muscles and fat compared to the seemingly starving shrink-wrapped Rexy would make it stronger and more durable, able to survive bites and wounds Rexy could not and give it a crucial mass advantage in momentum should they charge at each other.. Its vastly superior eyesight would make its binocular vision more useful, improving accuracy when attacking and letting it go for the neck bite.
Despite the inaccuracies of the JP franchise the movies put paleontology on the map. It spurred fascination. And while we can only theorize about what T-Rex could actually do* we wouldn’t even be having these debates in the general public were it not for Crichtons books and Spielbergs movies. * let’s not forget muscle tissue doesn’t fossilize. So we don’t know the real forces a Rex could generate per pound of muscle. Not only that the oxygen content of the atmosphere millions of years ago was higher than it is now. So Rex had more fuel for muscle and brain function.
I find that the weirdest placement for fossilized bones to lie is how the predatorial specimen died in mid-hunt of an already dying herbivorous Specimen.
It’s actually extremely unlikely Tyrannosaurus hunted larger Alamosaurus, because a) the very adaptations it evolved to hunt armoured prey made it poorly equipped to hunt sauropods, and b) Alamosaurus would have been just plain too large even for theropods that actually had sauropod-hunting adaptations. At that size there literally isn’t any land predator ever that can take the thing down, and Tyrannosaurus is further hampered due to sacrifices it made to parts of its anatomy in order to enable its powerful death grip of a bite. If you want to look at a giant theropod that’s actually suited to bring down sauropods (and do so much more quickly than often assumed), look at Giganotosaurus. And even a Giga wouldn’t be able to kill a 30+ ton sauropod. That theropod intelligence study is highly questionable as it was not done by paleontologists and relies heavily on multiple unfounded assumptions. Overall, the issue with this video is that while most of the information presented here is technically correct, it feeds into the “tyrannosaur superiority” myth that exists due to the fact only the predatory adaptations of tyrannosaurs are properly recognized in the online paleo community, while those of other large theropods are misrepresented or outright ignored, leading to them being seen as “inferior” (at least in terms of being a large predator” to tyrannosaurs.
No matter how much I learn about T. rex, I still can't get my head over the fact this animal was alive once. Not a fictional monster or anything, it was an actual thing, living and breathing with all these crazy stats.
If only we could see how they were in real life.
On the bright side some lucku son a bitch is gonna get some experience like this if we go to the stars and find early stages of evolutionary life
My fav t rex is prestoric planets trex it looks so cool cooler than buck t rex!
@@rexosaurus3610there's a real possibility they looked like chicken. A 10-ton murder chicken..
All of real animals are awesome in their own ways. Even animals that still live today
To be fair to rexy, by the time of JW she is quite elderly fighting against creatures at the height of their youth so it does makes sense she struggled in the fights.
Plus it's all up to the whims of the writer(s). They could have easily mader her super OP and win every single fight she got in without breaking much of a sweat but, that doesn't really make for good movie making.
Her surviving against the I. Rex and Giga at her age shows that her JP1 self would’ve absolutely obliterated them both with complete ease
Plus she was also a lot slower by then too, so that 32 mph bogus running speed is out the window lol
@@LeCumminz Against Indy, maybe. Against Giga, may wanna hold it there. You can't forget the Dominion prologue where they first fought. I don't know if we know this for sure, but wouldn't it be fair to assume that Rexy was in her prime at that time? If so, then I don't think a 1v1 between them is changing much. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@@Kaidhicksii Fair, but we don’t have enough information on that fight, Rexy could have been also quite old or too young during it, she could have been somewhat starved or sick, or simply put the Giga of the memory could have been the strongest specimen of their species making it akin to a world championship fight to the death.
While I will always preffer the accurate t-rex far more than any other ficticios adaptation of it I will still have a special spot on my heart for the jp rex due to the nostalgia that I have for the first and second movies of the franchise.
nothing beats seeing her break out of her paddock or ambushing the gallimimus in daylightz
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Dont worry buddy im sure youll see how they actually looked someday
Same I love prestoric planets T. rex my fav T. rex
@@amandacham3042 im just kinda wanting the trex to have 1 good scrap in the show. Seeing a small trex get pulled up on by two quetz was cool but show us a big one dammit
What makes this even crazier...
Is that another Scientist has a T-Rex Specimen called Bertha, who is currently writing a paper on it, and this scientist claims that Bertha is EVEN BIGGER THAN E.D. COPE!
Also, consider tha Rexy didn't catch and eat Clair because she's Flair Trained.
She's not pursuing, but following.
Cope and Bertha they are monstrously sizes.!
If this is really true, then my dream I had a year ago is true because I saw T-Rex being much more bigger than what we currently have discovered. They're like what you would call Dragons, I kid you not, and ruled over the unicorns, which aren't what you would expect but are Trikes and a large mammal like bull or rino of some sort.
Given some researches suggesting that T-Rex may have been 70% larger, this comparison could possibly change dramatically in the future.
Yes but yo mama 😮
We are seeing this with how massive Cope and Bertha are.
I'd be sceptical about this. It gets a lot of attention simply for it being sensetional. But these sensations in the real science don't last. Similarly to scavenger rex that was also got big attention and even tho it was already disproven many times, it keeps comming back in public circles - not so much in science ones tho. I feel like the 70% bigger is another one of those sensations with no real support in larger scientific community.
In my opinion the number one thing to take into consideration in the fiction of JP as far as inaccuracies of the Rex or any other Dino for that matter is that they were essentially approximations of Dinosaurs. They did not have the entire genetic code and made up parts of it as they went along. I think things like the messed up vision would easily be explained by humans messing with the code and messing something up. The Dinos were not pure specimens that would compare to the originals because they were heavily modified just to exist in the first place.
For the most part, I agree with you. But one important thing to remember about Jurassic Park, is that Grant was commenting on the T-Rex's vision before he even knew about the park. So according to the Jurassic Park universe, this was supposed to be the typical vision for the T-Rex. (Unless Grant just got lucky and he had some wild conjecture that happened to be true with Rexy.)
I hate this "they had genetic alterations" excuse because it's just that: a cheap excuse to justify scientific inaccuracies resulting from writers being either lazy to conduct proper research or, worse, deliberately spreading misinformation because it "looks good in the movie." Just like the scientific advisor of JP3 said about the Spinosaurus defeating the T-rex: "We know that at the time it couldn't defeat the T-rex because it ate fish, but we wanted a big carnivore to kill the T-rex, and it looked good in the movie."
The dinosaurs weren't represented as genetically engineered creatures; they were always portrayed as the real thing. Everyone who watched Jurassic Park and watches Jurassic World today assumes that this is how dinosaurs looked. In my opinion, they have the intellectual responsibility to be accurate with what they show. The script doesn't need lies to be good.
@@triplocore Those inaccuracies are mostly from incomplete information about dinos in the book Jurassic Park is adapted from. In 1990 when it was written it was considered to be extremely accurate. 33 years later errors have corrected and many new things about dinosaurs have been discovered. Also the book and movies call them Velocirators (the real thing is only the size of a cat) but they are actually Utahraptors of which the first specimens were found in the early 1990s.
@@triplocore You argue that "The dinosaurs weren't represented as genetically engineered creatures; they were always portrayed as the real thing." Except of course, the movie literally spells it out for us, with a fancy presentation and all, that these are genetically engineered creatures. But you don't want to hear that, you regard that as merely an excuse.
Meaning, you're just looking for an argument, presumably just for arguments sake.
You can also read the book, which is still popular and widely available. In it, you'll learn how the park dinosaurs were very specifically designed to make John Hammond the most amount of money, because that's all he cares about. He doesn't care about accuracy and it's made abundantly clear that these are genetically engineer dinosaurs.
@@laughingcloud3516 In fact they are deinonychus (or something like it). Utahraptors was 2m tall.
Like you said, there's just no way to give this to Rexy when she consistently gets thrashed by everything in her weight class. The loss against the Indominus would have been understandable since the Indominus was set up as an unnatural monster above all other dinosaurs. But any implied power scaling from that was thrown out the window when Rexy proceeded to get clowned on by the Giga. Plot armor is the only thing stopping the real Rex from taking an easy win.
Yeah, but (1) Rexy was 30-35 years old, which is really old for a T. rex, and (2) the Giga was a bit exaggerated for dramatic purposes. Based on what we know about both animals, T. rex has most of the advantages in that fight. Giga has *maybe* a very slight height advantage, while T. rex has better intelligence, vision, agility, bite force, body mass, etc.
Speaking of plot armor, the real Rex is the literal definition of "I am the plot, and you need the armor".
@@bluemarlin8138 The fact the franchise did the T-rex in general dirty because they think the animal's overrated.
I actually thought both those fights were great examples of Rexy's more formidable intelligence. When direct overpowering doesn't work, she fights smarter. She uses not just her own physical power, but also uses the environment and greater mass of both opponents to her advantage.
The same with the spinossaur. What makes me even mad is that at JP3 time they knew already that the Spino didnt had chance against the T-rex, but they was trying to find a carnivor to kill him, and as the scientific adivisor said: "We know that at the time it couldn't defeat the T-rex because it ate fish, but we wanted a big carnivore to kill the T-rex, and it looked good in the movie."
funny thing is... rexy's vision may actually have improved over time
as there are plenty of moments in JW, CC, JWFK and dominion where she was clearly responding to something "standing still."
probably from the smell? 🤔
@@MrTroxismrexy didnt smell alan grant in the breakout scene when he was right infront of her.
Rexy most likeley has realy good hearing.
@@rexyjp1237 Was raining.
That is a possibility, it could be possible the vision part in JP could either be a defect because the team wanted to get a dino out quickly and the poor eyesight is one, but it is possible the poor eyesight is due to being dark out and storming which for most animals, this sort of environment needs specialization to hunt/roam in.
However it is possible the poor eye sight might be entirely wrong in Grant's case as he did admit a few yet subtle that he was wrong in some regards, as for JP3, it is possible the Rex there is determining if the humans are prey since, admittedly if I was an animal and say hairless apes walking up right, not knowing what the fuck that is, I be figuring out whether a calcium intake is safe. (Yea my only excuse for the rex to go after them.)
Infact, I think the reason in JP2, the chase, despite being at night, the rex could be investigating a smell, it was stomping from afar but it some how didnt wake anyone up, but noticed the lights flashing.
Please correct me on this but if the Rex is accurate, its biggest weakness is to rub its front part of its upper mouth as chances are, its gonna be wandering what the fuck did you just do?
Life, uh, finds a way...
Interesting how jp spino and jp giga are stronger and bigger than their real life counterparts
While real life rex dwarfs rexy in strength and size
Rexy was actually taller but not as bulky
I think it's hilarious that the more we learn about T Rex, the more we realize that not only was the JP rex NOT a movie monster depiction, but they actually nerfed the hell out of the T Rex in these films.
Yes and no. In the 1990s, that would have been considered pretty accurate for dinosaur science at the time. It's just that they kept finding new things throughout the years.
Rexy didn’t catch Claire because Rexy was impressed Claire ran in heels so slowed down for her.😂
Tbh the adult rexes aren't the problem if you're a human or medium size animal, it's the Juveniles and adolescent rexes you need to worry about, Adults are ambush predators but the young are predominantly pursuit predators due to being smaller and would likely to run down smaller prey or hunting in packs to take down larger prey by employing Hit and Run with crushing bites onto limbs or neck.
Tbf there’s also the equally accepted hypothesis that the adults were also pursuit predators who could “power walk” their prey down while reserving a great deal of stamina with their hip driven gait. Mind you, the power walk wasn’t slow and things like Trike’s weren’t fast. I’d say it’s acceptable to put adult rexes as utilising bot ambush and pursuit methods of hunting.
@festyfestiva I heard a theory proposed by a scientist that Trex would intentionally chase things into shallow water.
Specifically, edmontosaurus, as it was faster on land when running at full speed, but turns out in water, the Rex was significantly faster
Damn, I sure am glad to have found this channel as a bit of a paleo nerd myself. :D Really interesting video topics you choose. Gonna binge-watch many of them, just dropped by from your recent theropod tier list.
Something Ive found interesting about more modern studies of the Trex is how it might have sounded. Instead of the reversed and mixed lion roar we got in the movies, it might have been more of a low frequency rumble that would be felt as much as heard.
The moment you hear it, your entire body shakes, you literally "feel" it.
It would be helishly scary.
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A long time people have been searching for the "brown note". Turns out, it came from a Trex lol
Like crocs
I heard you can feel a lion's roar too. If that's true, imagine a much larger beast roar like the t rex.
That new sound is just a guess. All predator Avian dinos today don't do that Eagles, Hawks and Falcons all scream. The Rex more than likely did the same.
I always felt like Rexy was lighter than an IRL Rrex, ngl
Yes, if you scale it to the same size. Jp rex's taller.
@@unnaturaldodo Yes but it's not built as thick.
She’s also rather weedy with not much on her bones lol
@@unnaturaldodoslightly taller and considerably less in weight
Yes and no. For dinosaur science standards in 1993, pretty accurate. For dinosaur science in 2023, not accurate at all.
Boomstick: Guess you could say Rexy couldn't COPE with the REALITY!
*Now listen here budd-*
Fun fact: for the 90's the jurassic park t.rex design is accurate
For the 90s all the dinosaurs designs are pretty accurate, but the 90s was 30 years ago
@@carso1500Wow, I feel really old all of a sudden.
I like Primal’s version the best
We have no idea what they really looked like , my speculation? They were probably way scarier than we could ever imagine .
Would also be interested to hear your perspective if accurate dinosaurs would scare audiences.
I used to really prefer the JP style Dinos but the more I’ve learned about their accurate representation the more I find the actual animals terrifying. Great video!
Go fight an ostrich and tell me dinosaurs aren’t scary
That isnt really a factor on the real dinosaurs so much as its just on the portrayal which is then liable to humanization tropes, other animal personification through the dinosaurs, or monster exaggeration like what JW does portraying I. Rex more like aliens rather than Dinosaurs, which was my issue with Blue, Idomeneus and the I. raptors. They didnt seem to behave believably to me. Real dinosaurs would likely be no more or less scarier than Hippos, crocodiles or Elephants. Intimidating size but only situationally aggressive, and in real life they wouldn't want to get hurt unlike the movie monsters that fight to the death at all times.
Loving the diversity in the paleontology content, keep it comin 🙏🏾‼️
Rexy is one of the greatest female movie characters of all time!!! Maby ever!
no it’s just some stupid animal
Rexy sucks, stop. Writers made her the weekest big carnivor of the franchise
The first ever Strong Female Character.
T.rex has always been my favorite dinosaur. Rexy is an iconic pop culture character and she’s awesome. The paleo-accurate T.rex is also amazing, such a great animal and Prehistoric Planet showed us how amazing it could be.
No matter who loses between them in a fight, it’s safe to say that T.rex is and always will be an amazing creature. Love em both!
I might love the accurate Rex more but I will always love the Jurassic park version
The neck bite NEVER works for JP dinosaurs, but it worked 100% of the time for the real Tyrannosaurus Rex.. I see that playing a factor.
Really enjoyed this video :)
6:54 the good thing is she's been able to bypass it.
Once she heard a noise and upon investigating, she noticed a cardboard. Although it was standing still (and not making the noise anymore), she still rushed towards it, showing she can recognize people trying to capitalize on her weakness.
Accurate T-Rex has very good eyesight
For sure like once seen you better hope its not interested in you and will just smell you out of curiosity😅
Rexy lost to the Giga because plot. Rexy losing to the Indom actually is easily understood. She started to lose when Indom began to use her arms with opposable thumbs, to which Rexy was unfamiliar. After Blue came in and Rexy laying prone disappeared from frame, it took only 7 seconds for Rexy to re-enter the fight and thrashed the hybrid, never letting it use its hands in the fight.
are you mad t Rex lost, T. rex was not god same people think
@@ditokhutsishvili2106No, but it had most of the advantages compared to other large theropods. More robust build, higher intelligence, binocular vision (and the depth perception that comes with it), better agility despite the heavier build, and the highest bite force of any terrestrial animal by a long shot. Bite force is often an overrated metric, but not when T. rex gets neck bites on its opponent and they somehow don’t get their throats crushed immediately, because the plot needs them to live.
In reality, all the fights where Rexy landed early bites to the necks of her opponents would be over then and there. Other dinos could survive peripheral bites from a rex, but the neck is both soft and vital. Rexy would have bitten down hard and it would be all over.
A few updates while trying to keep it "realistic" with no real higher end powerscaling involved, Rexy still likely has the advantage. JP's Ankylosaurus' tail clubs are said to strike with 50,000 newtons. Indominus takes a club to the neck/face and is relatively okay and keeps fighting. Rexy even in the first round performs vastly better than the Ankylosaurus, and in round two dominated the genetic freak. Indominus' weight of 6 tons is likely outdated, as multiple sources have listed her at 55 feet long in her World appearance-as large as the 9-13 ton Giga from head to tail (though he is a good bit taller). And in a rather new message by Collin, he cited Rexy at 10.6 metric tons, not as large as Cope for sure, but given that mass and being still well able to run at 32 mph if the two beasts were to clash, though she weighs less she'd generate much more kinetic force. She is as physically powerful as the Indominus rex-multiple sources confirm this and the battle itself should if anything show that she's superior though Indom wasn't in peak condition, so Rexy could on paper match the psycho slaughter feat on the Apatosaurus herd (though the Dino Tracker shows her backing off after getting a tail whip to the face).
Losing to the Giganotosaurus also isn't too big of a loss and I dunno why people keep pretending JP rex is weak when Giga is able to crush a T.rex neck with one or two bites as shown in the prologue and kill them instantly. The same Rexes that in the modern day bash their heads through buses, shatter small buildings and get thrown around by their neck by super weapon hybrids and get right back up. The Giga is just a monster. It's also been stated this behemoth attempts to hunt Dreadnoughtus alone.
A nice attempt though my friend, and it's nice to see someone not just say "hurr durr Rexy lose to Indom/Giga, weakling!!!"
They're just putting the real stats for the anky on the website. That doesn't mean the movie version is actually that strong.
@@deepfriedcigarettes3539 Real Anky is less than 1/4th that strong so this headcanon doesn't work
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 that's not true but okay
Notice that the Indominus Rex rolls with the hit from the Ankylosaurus, much like an experienced boxer. Physics analysis tells us increasing the time of the strike decreases the effective force felt by the I-Rex, so it’s entirely plausible that it could tank the hit with the methods it used. It’s a well done scene when you think about it.
@@Mobius118 Not really, she gets hit, falls and braces her fall with her arms. After she tries to bite over the top, failing and gets whacked aside again. This hit to the side/legs does nearly nothing to her but it wasn't as good a strike. She essentially got laid out but recovered quickly.
Seeing rexy's battles and movies , she is abnormally agile and fast for a rex but her biteforce is trash , when she is hunting gallis she literally needs to trash it to kill it and it follows up with her almost never crushing/kill anything , she always needs to use slam or do things like that .
Speed yeah, but Real Rexes could twirl and spin cause they had specialized hips that made them very agile.
they downgrade rexes in the franchise b/c they think other dinosaurs like spino and giga should get the spotlight. well i say rexy is too iconic of a character to be disrespected like she was in the last movie!
Rexy is scary but an actual Rex is pure nightmare fuel. As we discover more they may even get bigger.
The accurate Tyrannosaurus rex would win without a problem
😂 no
Yeah no 💀
Rexy would ragdoll him
@@umacoisa3870 no because Tyrannosaurus rex in real life was much heavier than we thought. That’s a mansion and lost the fight against a spinosaurus and a tarbosaurs
If we’re even using the Sue and Scotty specimens they would win without a problem in rexes at the other Jurassic franchise, rexes, or not experience fighters, with the exception of of course the buck rex but still, he would probably get his ass kicked as well
@@tyrannotherium7873 Literally just upscales the dinosaurs since the point of them was to be stronger than the trex and not to be weak just to make the trex even weaker. Rexy ragdolled Indom who is 10-11.5 tons and giga who is 9-15 tons.
There are some scientists that think T-Rex may have been smart enough to have a primitive form of culture like orcas, as that could have been a factor in the success of the species.
The "real" t rex in the thumbnail looks like he has more wisdom than master Oogway
As much as I love Rexy and Jurassic Park, The JP rexes were only a threat in the first and second movie but became jokes and unable to win any fight against anything in later movies. So minus plot armor and every dinosaur under the sun helping Jp Rex. Paleo would win with not much of a challenge, since they are used to fighting themselves.
goony reasonings
@@sorrowtw Rexy has nothing but plot armor after JP1.
More recent research suggests the real thing, in addition to potentially having a much larger upper size than previously thought, may have been able to run after all. This same research suggest it could potentially have reached speeds of around 25 km/h.
So, still not super fast, but way faster than prior estimates. Nearly half of JP's T-Rex.
T. rex was the ultimate terrestrial predator
It's pretty clear in the scene that Rexy didn't catch up to Claire because she was walking after her, not running.
I've often wondered if those enormous eyes T-Tex had gave them superior night vision as well. How terrifying would a night hunting Tyrannosaur be?
What if, instead of being a pursuit or ambush predator, T-Rex was the first ninja dinosaur?
Finally, a plausible theory to partially make an honest attempt to "dubunk" the scavenger theory. ... I mean rexie could have been a hybrid of 50% scavenger and 50% stealth"ninja" ambush attacker. Who knows, there could have been a special padding on her feet to severely muffle stepping sounds for all we know. All the evidence from what I have read points to rex just not being fast enough to be the traditional "run them down" predator, that so very many trex fangirls have been bamboozled into believing.
I never get tired of learning more about T-Rex 🦖
dont forget about how silent and stealthy the real t rex is
Since they no longer exist and less 1 percent of fossils ever fossilize I don't see how we really know what these animals were like. But sure... do more videos... this was fun 🙂
I’m a veteran powerscaler. I’ve been powerscaling for 4 years at least, and I must say, your video is accurate.
Small, gentle correction;
As somebody who used to work in fibreglass boatbuilding, fibreglass is *not* 'pound for pound, stronger than steel' it's *AS strong as steel for a given weight* ie it has a greater strength-to-weight ratio.
Paleo accurate Rex had too much McDonald's
Not to mention the JP rexes in the first movie were taken from samples of tissue from mosquitoes in amber and pieced together with other animal DNA so it would be slightly different than a true trex
Nice topic and analysis 🙂👍🦖
I really think we all know what would happen if Rexy met a Prehistoric Planet Rex.
Rexy: Fight me!!
Prehistoric Rex Male: No. Let's mate.
Rexy: .....okie dokie
The amount of muscle is missing in jp is insane so I'd say realistic wins
Nah I doubt it
@@theheroverse5191 the trex in jp looks malnourished and deformed
@theheroverse5191 actually jp rex looks like an animal never eats healthy food
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I’ll tell you MY reasoning.
1. Rexy has a few feats of intellectual prowess, whilst Scotty and T. Rexes in general we’re likely has smart as Ravens and maybe even Bonobos. (We of course gotta use the more recent, more accurate studies)
2. Even if we assume Rexy and Scotty have an equally powerful bite, Rexy has been showcased to bite and let go instead of biting and crushing like a T. Rex would, this would make Rexy’s bite more ineffective. (Rexy has just comically has a way worst bite anyway)
3. Rexy was in containment for most of her life while Scotty would have to compete with other Rexes and learn to hunt creatures like the Ankylosaurus and Triceratops, this gives Scotty battle IQ.
I believe Rexy gets experience because I think she is older then Scotty was when she was alive.
I’ll give Rexy durability though it is debatable.
Rexy looked visibly skinny and shrink wrapped in all of her movies whilst Rexes in general were very musclier, noticeably more then Rexy. (This isn’t a point for strength)
Rexy is around seven plus tons whilst Scotty is ten plus tons in weight.
I love the movies , it always makes me laugh how everyone seems to have a different opinion about how T rex looked and size etc. firstly we have the bones, so we know the size. No one knows the colour or sound of any of the dinosaurs. I can’t see how the speed etc and natural behaviour is any more than a educated guess. ( which I respect)
No… if Rexy’s bite force was that high, she’d kill every other JP/JW apex in one bite. Rexy’s on screen bite is weak af.
Me before : haha another elephant gator sync from a movie.
Me after : keeps digging to live underground and wait for another asteroid.
1:21, Looking at Rexy right here, no doubt she's at least the same size as the Giganotosaurus, but she was given a 2018 design instead.
Also because of the feet padding just like what david attenborough said in prehistoric planet , the real t rex was surprisingly stealthy unlike the stomping rexy like she always have a tendency of roaring before hunting and overal very loud
3:20 have you ever went chasing after something smaller than you. Like when I'm chasing my cats around trying not to out run them, combined with them being smaller and having to bend down to grab them. Yeah I can see. When you can easily outrun your prey who is smaller than you, you have to slow down your natural speed while bending over to grab it so yeah makes it a but harder
Yeah.
She even outran an ankylosaurus, which can run as fast as a jeep.
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I never thought of a battle like this before watching this videos, thanks 👍
According to paleontologist, David Hone, T-Rex could most likely reach speeds comparable to an Olympic sprinter and could maintain that speed for an extended period of time.
And it could fly, not many know that...
IRL Rex SLAMS pretty badly. This isn't fair whatsoever. Jk, Rexy slams low diff.
bro is back in his rex solos rexy arc
rexy no diffs lol
Even tho i disagree with some points due to powerscaling and calculations, this video really made me smile because Rexy is so goddamn undderated, everyone calls her a weak fodder that couldn't beat a tarbosaur, im glad someone finnaly gives Rexy the respect, even tho Cope still won in the video
I plan to make my own fair analysis which is less biased. Unlike this one, in my analysis video it'll be less biased and will lean more towards Rexy's favour.
@@AnimalEnthusiast1789-2 ill look forward to seeing it
I seriously doubt if it could have even gotten close let alone rip the head off a triceratops.
When you talk about the bite force, the dino tracker website list rexy's bite at ONLY about 7500-7700 psi. While yes, there are other statements, dinotracker is a canon website, so I felt to point it out lol
logically, Rexy loses
scaling wise, Rexy turns prehistoric Rex to dust.
knowing this is a LOGIC based video, fair enough i approve the vid ✅✅
Could you explain that? I don't understand what you mean.
This alligator is smart af 🤔
Fictuonal vs real parasaurolophus next pls
Pretty good video Overseer.
Though if I have to be honest, I don't quite get the difference between "logic" and scaling, as it is the same to me. The feats of Rexy don't change based on us calculating them or not.
I *definitely* agree that it would be boring and uninteresting though, if Rexy just killed the real Rex in one hit due to having hundreds of times stronger feats and what not, so I understand your point and the point of this video, but these feats are still kinda canon.
I might be wrong but to me, analysis like these are a "Mike Tyson vs Superman" kinda fight, where you don't consider the feats of Superman that much and determine the winner by who is more experienced and has the better corporal build. I understand and respect if you have a different opinion, to me, I don't like making a fictional character more realistic to give a real life version of it a chance.
It never fails to amaze me that this creatures once walked the earth.
Do you think Rexy would have done better in fights against other therapods if she had grown up in the wild competing with other rexes rather than alone in a zoo?
yes, this would be a good series!
Rexy also likely lost fights against the other large theropods due to her age. She is a senior compared to the others
"Ankylosaurus"
Ah yes, the ankle-remover.
This is a damn great video! I haven't finished watching this but I'm really enjoying this video! No biased rubbish, all facts. And you're Australian! Finally, someone that makes Dinosaur videos that is from Australia! I have a few questions on editing tips, I been working on a video 'bout Majungasaurus and when I speak in the video, you could hear me trying to catch my breath, should I cut them all out? And when editing, do I edit the whole video or edit bits of them and piece them together to avoid errors?
Thank you, and as far as editing goes. I’d recommend cutting out all parts of you catching your breath and piece everything together to ensure a smooth flow. And you should edit the whole video to ensure the best quality. It’s worth spending the extra time to edit!
Seriously cool. Be cool to see the other dinosaurs too.
Not a single human who is alive actually know what a dino looks like.
We do, look up an ankylosaurid specimen which was perfectly preserved
@@Sporeboy87 ive seen it. Its not 100% but its the closest, but still not a living, breathing dino. One specimen isnt enough to say we know all.
Weight, battle IQ and strength for the real rex already solidifies the W
Honestly, it wouldn't matter if it were the T-Rex from the JP movies or the real one, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near one....ever.
I have heard theories that not only did T. Rex fight others, but that many of the rather serious head and neck injuries are actually caused by biting to hold on during mating, not combat.
I love this video you should do more like this
So we already know that Rexy is physically stronger because of throwing and tossing the 11 ton indom, and even the 15 ton Giga
But Rexy ALSO seems to be more durable to since we know that the Ankys tell swing is 400 megapasicals (26 tons of force)
And that wasn’t fully able to break through the GyroSphere, while indom’s claws WERE able to, making them 26+ tons of force, and Rexy was shown to tank those same claws and withstand them
And irl Rex was already shown to be critically damaged from a irl Rex bite (which is weaker than the jw Anky’s 400 mgp tale swing)
So Rexy is stronger, more durable, AND is faster/agile. So because she has more combat advantages, Rexy solos
The indom was only 6 tonnes not 11 tons and the giga was only 10 tonnes, not 15, also the indom "PIERCE" the GyroSphere she didn't swing at it like the ankylo did so for obvious reasons your logic is wrong, the moment rexy comes close to a irl 12 ton rex she'll get pinned to the ground with one bite and she doesn't have the mass to break free
Both the i-rex and giga in the jp franchise are 9 tonnes (9000 kg) or 1.5 african bull elephant's for americans using freedom units.
I’ll tell you MY reasoning.
1. Rexy has a few feats of intellectual prowess, whilst Scotty and T. Rexes in general we’re likely has smart as Ravens and maybe even Bonobos. (We of course gotta use the more recent, more accurate studies)
2. Even if we assume Rexy and Scotty have an equally powerful bite, Rexy has been showcased to bite and let go instead of biting and crushing like a T. Rex would, this would make Rexy’s bite more ineffective. (Rexy has just comically has a way worst bite anyway)
3. Rexy was in containment for most of her life while Scotty would have to compete with other Rexes and learn to hunt creatures like the Ankylosaurus and Triceratops, this gives Scotty battle IQ.
I believe Rexy gets experience because I think she is older then Scotty was when she was alive.
I’ll give Rexy durability though it is debatable.
Rexy looked visibly skinny and shrink wrapped in all of her movies whilst Rexes in general were very musclier, noticeably more then Rexy. (This isn’t a point for strength)
Rexy is around seven plus tons whilst Scotty is ten plus tons in weight.
Btw I pretty sure the Indominus was only six tons while the Giga was fourteen - fifteen. Impressive? Sure, but dragging around an animal slightly above your own weight ain’t ALL that impressive.
I bet you can debunk at least some of what I said though.
@@paleospino4956 My brother in Christ, out of the other people that replied to this comment, yours is the only one that is worth my time, because of your more dedication behind your reasoning.
So let’s discuss:
1. W
(I basically agree)
2. No, Scotty definitely has a more powerful bite force, especially in their exact numbers in psi or newtons or in any other way you want to measure it.
3. While yes, she was in containment in her life… you also have to acknowledge Rexy being able to remember herself from 65 million years ago, Thus having all of that battle experience from the past, IN ADDITION to her years when she wasn’t contained (which was after the events of JP, all the way through her
re-containment for JW
Along with her life in the events of FK
And the rest of her life living on the mainland with all the other dinosaurs (dominion)
So really, Rexy would have more battle IQ through her much longer experience.
4. No, it’s really not even that debatable (respectfully), Rexy was consistently shown to tank being slammed or thrown to the ground in her fights. While irl Rex’s are scientifically proven to be critically injured if it were to fall over.
+ the sauropod tails that can break the sound barrier were proven to do critical damage to an irl Rex, while Rexy was shown to tank it just fine 🤷🏾♂️ (in the canon website called Dino tracker, and yes, the jw apatosaurus’s tale wip is confirmed to be able to break the sound barrier)
So Rexy is definitely more durable, no questions asked.
5. Yes, she was canonically supposed to look skinny and shrink wrapped in the events of JW - FK because they said they wanted her to look like she was aging after all these years. But definitely NOT in all of her movies since when you look at her more (canonically) prime self (jurassic Park Rexy), she is much more muscular/bulkier and in a better state, and doesn’t have much bones being exposed like her older self does. And if you are wondering about dominion Rexy, she was canonically restored BACK to her JP self, where they LITERALLY Gave all of her muscle and bulk back to her model, which you can visually see in film. I actually made a video on this, showing the difference in muscle between her prime and older self, you can check it out if you want.
6. You’re basing that off of JW Rexy tho, JWD Rexy was wanked up to 10.58 Tons, Thus Rexy and Scotty would be pretty equal in weight.
7. Like what Glen said, universal PERSONALLY stepped in to deliver canon sizes. They are ACTIVELY going against their database to not only ensure the dinosaurs scale within the movies align with their personally drawn sizes but to make sure they stay to true or as close as possible to their true sizes. Hence why they drew a chart for Colin and had him tell Glen to keep their scale as close to that as possible. They are that size within the film and these are the sizes universal has as canon
So any other jw source giving off Indom’s weight would be directly disproven, via the actual CREATORS in universal themselves.
So their official sizes are as stated:
Indom: 9.5 tonnes (10.49 tons) to 10.5 tonnes (11.5 tons)
Giga: 13.61 tonnes (15.00 tons).
8. Sure, but it’s still a better feat of strength for Rexy.
Ay, this is still fun conversing with you, that’s all that matters 🤷🏾♂️
Common Nigeta W.
The real T Rex was likely even less impressive in real life than the constant nerfing modern palaeontologists have been putting it through.
I would shit my pants regardless if any of these two would stand behind me.
This "accurate" T-Rex is just as much a guess as Jurassic Parks T-Rex. We don't actually know what they looked like.
But a 2023's cientific guess is a lot more accurate than a 1994's movie based on a much older book guess.
@@giangaona No, not really.
@@davemiller6055 Yes it is. Name one big ass animal that's as gangly looking as Rexy. Name one.
Show me an Elephant that's as gangly as Rexy. Because an animal of that stature would need a lot of fat AND muscle to support their weight. And having teeth outside of the lips is pointless since it rots faster and is prone to breaking.
3:15;In short you would need to be in a car in clear area like a road to beable to get to 4th gear speed to have ANY chance of getting away from it!Without it,YOU'RE A MEAL!
After seeing what elephants can do to cars I'm now convinced a t Rex could pick up a car with ease
What's considered accurate today might be different in 30 years, just like it was when Jurassic Park came out.
One of the more interesting things that was discovered is that T-rex were ambush hunters. So they could walk quietly unlike rexy
Also I’m a land before time baby, so when I learned that t-rex was mostly likely a pretty powerful swimmer I was SHOCKED XD little kid me couldn’t believe it.
Discovering new things so often about the dinosaurs is why I think we need more documentaries more often
It's 3am and I'm binging on your videos. Please send help 😅
Saurophaganax vs Battle at big Rock Allosaurus
Animal vs Monster a good analogy.
Whether it's the fictitious version or scientifically accurate version I'd bet we'd all agree is was very scary looking!
An eagle eyed, bloodhound nosed, 20 mph, 10 ton wrecking ball! All hail the king baby! T-Rex 🦖
The best paleo videos are the few who talk about the hole echosystem not one dino. And if show the real phosil plus the art AMASING.
Paleontologically accurate T-rex looks noble as fuck
Rexy has a really weak bite force. Imagine she would have the bite force of an average accurate Rex… she would literally one shot the I-Rex and JW Giga. This is a common problem with JP/JW Rexs, they all have really weak bite force
Also accurate Rex will take agility, it could dodge charging trikes. Just imagine Rexy had this agility. Most likely the I-Rex and Giga would Not even able to hit Rexy
Indom and giga were made to be stronger and more durable than her.
what's the point of having a dinosaur to fight the trex, which the dino is stronger and more durable to be one shotted bcs of "bite force", even if rexy had the bite of an average or the biggest trex, neither Indom nor giga would be one shotted by rexy due to the narratives and statements that say they are to be more powerful, stronger and more durable than her.
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Fr said rexy has weak bite ☠️
Rexy destroys Scotty’s or any irl trex
@@KnightShadow163fr bro 😭
I swear sometimes these types of arguments don't make sense
I heard from a 6 foot turkey that T-Rex was just a scavenger dinosaur.
What I don't understand about Rexy: If her bite force is so great then why was she only dealing mild damage to the Indom or the Giga? She grabbed the Indom by it's NECK, how did she not rip it's head off with that kind of bite force? Makes no sense.
Jurassic park uses science to defy science, that is the in universe explination on why the dinosaurs are so fucked up.
Couple years ago an accurate T Rex would have been covered in full plumage. Maybe it will be again in a couple more years. Maybe put an asterisk by "accurate". We'll never know for sure.
How about a video putting the jp3 spino vs a real spino.
Also remember that Rexy is a captive animal, it doesn't know how to hunt. A real life wild T-Rex knows how to hunt from watching its parent and hunting on a regular basis all throughout its life. Its body with a greater amount of soft tissue like muscles and fat compared to the seemingly starving shrink-wrapped Rexy would make it stronger and more durable, able to survive bites and wounds Rexy could not and give it a crucial mass advantage in momentum should they charge at each other.. Its vastly superior eyesight would make its binocular vision more useful, improving accuracy when attacking and letting it go for the neck bite.
Despite the inaccuracies of the JP franchise the movies put paleontology on the map. It spurred fascination. And while we can only theorize about what T-Rex could actually do* we wouldn’t even be having these debates in the general public were it not for Crichtons books and Spielbergs movies.
* let’s not forget muscle tissue doesn’t fossilize. So we don’t know the real forces a Rex could generate per pound of muscle. Not only that the oxygen content of the atmosphere millions of years ago was higher than it is now. So Rex had more fuel for muscle and brain function.
I'd love to see a vs. between "The Big One" and a Utah Raptor
I find that the weirdest placement for fossilized bones to lie is how the predatorial specimen died in mid-hunt of an already dying herbivorous Specimen.
It’s actually extremely unlikely Tyrannosaurus hunted larger Alamosaurus, because a) the very adaptations it evolved to hunt armoured prey made it poorly equipped to hunt sauropods, and b) Alamosaurus would have been just plain too large even for theropods that actually had sauropod-hunting adaptations. At that size there literally isn’t any land predator ever that can take the thing down, and Tyrannosaurus is further hampered due to sacrifices it made to parts of its anatomy in order to enable its powerful death grip of a bite. If you want to look at a giant theropod that’s actually suited to bring down sauropods (and do so much more quickly than often assumed), look at Giganotosaurus. And even a Giga wouldn’t be able to kill a 30+ ton sauropod.
That theropod intelligence study is highly questionable as it was not done by paleontologists and relies heavily on multiple unfounded assumptions.
Overall, the issue with this video is that while most of the information presented here is technically correct, it feeds into the “tyrannosaur superiority” myth that exists due to the fact only the predatory adaptations of tyrannosaurs are properly recognized in the online paleo community, while those of other large theropods are misrepresented or outright ignored, leading to them being seen as “inferior” (at least in terms of being a large predator” to tyrannosaurs.
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You are so pathetic childish🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤣🤣