Hi Bruce, a big hand from good old Germany for this video! This topic was already driving me crazy, but since I watched your video, everything works as expected! Pretty good explanation, easy to understand and you made my day! Thank's a lot for this!
You are amazing! My church was like we probably can’t record our service and we have this board. I’m going to attempt to record with studio one 3.0 on my MBP 2012 this sunday. Thanks so much!
Thanks so much! I've been trying setting up my outputs 1 for 1 after watching a load of other vids..- I watched this vid, set them up from 33 as suggested and I'm recording on my Mac now! I'll actully use it for tangible work now so a genuine thanks!
You can also change the configuration of the usb MADI interface with the internal DIP switch to either MADI Cat5 1to32 USB 33to64 or USB1to32 and MADI 33to64. it's in the user manual.
Great video!! Very helpful. Had no idea about setting up with the 33 up. I have a question though. Is it possible to route the DSP settings of the SI impact to may Daw. I have Logic Pro Studio X and am new to the Impact. But, I do love this mixer!!
If you have any questions or need any help, I do free FaceTime with Church of helping or training their Sound Guys, on Life Sound. I have complete several class and it is free for churches. I am not a sales person, just a Christian that loves helping out Churches and God has given me this Talent. My phone number is 386-365-3784.
Bruce, you can change the settings in the Si Impact (dipswitches on the output card) to assign the usb output channels as 1-32 so that you don't have the problem you had. See the user's guide. It explains how to set the dip switches. You set them to off, off, on, off.
Can you please make a tutorial video on how to setup the outputs for madi to get a playback in pro tools (or any DAW) since I'm getting signal through the inputs channels by following this video (thanks btw) but I can't get it to playback. Please HELP!
Hi Bruce thank's for video. I 've a question. In my case I use stage box SC i32/12 and Cubase Pro as a DAW. During my multichannel records I observed a drop outs in records through out the channels feed with phantom power. Its onset is about 4-5x/30 minutes record. Please do you any similar experience (or somebody from the discussion?) And of course how it is possible to solve it? Thank's in advance. Jan.
Thanks for the video. I'm using the SI in my church as well, and I want to record live services in my DAW (using GarageBand presently as well). Question I have is this -- I'm using the Aviom card in my console and presently have my channels routed to Aviom channels. If I attempt to map them to USB patch channels, I get the message that I have "unpatch" them first from the Aviom assignments. Is there not a way to have the channels patched to both simultaneously for live recording without impacting the IEM feeds to my musicians?
Bruce, thanks so much for putting this together - super helpful! Do you have any insight on how to get the sound from the DAW back into the SI Impact? I've tried change the input patch to MADI USB CARD01 on a channel but no sound happening ....
You need to be sure you have downloaded the correct Soundcraft driver to your computer for the DAW to use and then make sure that the DAW recognizes the driver and the Soundcraft SI Impact.
This was very helpful, thank you. My volume into the DAW is very low and I can't figure out how to raise it. Any suggestions? I understand that it is sending a pre-EQ, pre-effects, etc... signal, but the volume is so low I can hardly do anything with it in the DAW.
Yes it is. Soundcraft says that they did this on purpose to provide plenty of headroom. But just turn up the gain on your input channels and make sure you are getting a good signal level on each Si channel that you are sending to the DAW. The fader level does not matter because the signal from the Si to the DAW does no go through the faders. It leaves the Si right after the gain control.
Howdy all. One question regarding the SI Impact and connecting to a DAW. I've connected mine, have set up the MADI Channels 33-64 and I see the signal coming into the DAW. And it records. When it comes to playing back what I've recorded, I'm not seeing anything or hearing anything coming back to the board. Do I have to change something on the board to hear what has been recorded? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Bruce, I have assigned all of the channels but when I look up for assignment in my DAW (Adobe Auditions) it only gives option for Combo or (combined) tracks not individual tracks. So in turn it only allows me to record the mix from the Impact not individual tracks. Any suggestions? Soundcraft support were not at all helpful. They said it was a setting inside the DAW program. I dont think the DAW is combining all of the inputs into a single combined track. Any help would be awesome if you have any to give. God Bless.
Thanks. So what happens after you've recorded tracks and then begin to play back from your DAW? Let's say you do not print your effects settings to the tracks. Is there a way to route the output tracks back to tracks 1 through 32 so that you hear the audio playing back with the same mix settings that you had while recording?
Late to this party. I have managed to get the routing back to the si sorted. But everything going to tape seems to be preFX (post LPF though). Are your multis definitely printing to tape with compression/EQ etc applied?
Very insightful, i used this video to set all my inputs in the DAW. Now I have added a stage box, But now it does not send signal to the DAW. Only when input is connected & assigned directly to the board. Do you know how to address this issue?
Hello, get a USB to XLR cable , then plug it to the boards inputs. Then assign the fader to that channel input. 2 - get an Audio interface (Scarlett 2i2) connect the computer to the interface and then to an input on the board. With this audio interface you’ll have more control over the volume coming out from computer plus this device comes with Ableton lite free download(all you need is the serial #) I hope this helps.! Have a good day and project.
I would select the master fader, then like all the other channels, select input on the screen, scroll down to input patch or whatever and select 33 and or 34 and see if the l and r come to channels 1 and 2 on the board. Go through that whole patch selection and see if l and r is like 63 and 64 or something.
So how do you get the audio from the DAW back through the SI Impact, so what you're hearing from monitors hooked up to mixer is post-DAW? I ask because I want to do additional fx, processing, etc. in the DAW, then hear that output in my monitors. Thanks!
***Update I connected my Macbook Pro 2012 with Studio one 3.0 artist on Sunday 10/7/2018. Selected the soundcraft impact as the input for the computer under preferences. Selected the soundcraft impact as device in studio one. put 16 track in my DAW. went through the steps above and when I selected one of the tracks. I then clicked menu and clicked auto complete. I selected channel 1, and followed the steps above and then before exiting I used auto complete to automatically complete. This sent channels 1-8 to my daw as 33-40 It appears my DAW may have already been set up on channels 1-32 and I got repeats on channels 33-64. ***Autocomplete will do this for you for 8 consecutive channels. No live sound was messed up. This only changed what was sent out via USB.
Yes, soundcraft doesn’t allow you to direct output two outs at the same time. That’s why they divided it into half and half. After the 33 channel you are good to patch madi or dante. If not then you’ll keep on looping to ch 1 even after patching it with a different channel.
I love Soundcraft Si products, but they do have a few short-comings compared to some other digital mixers. For example, the Allen & Heath QU series can PLAY or MULTI-TRACK RECORD right to a USB device (i.e. flash stick or better yet SSD drive) without the need for external PC's and stuff. HELLO PEOPLE... Please note that for the Si Impact, if you want to make it more simpler for the USB out channels do the following.. 1 Make sure power is OFF! 2 pull out the interface card in the back 3.Change DIP switch #2 to OFF (down) (USB range), then the USB would handle 1-32. With it up it's 33 to 64. But if you think you'll use the MADI interface better not. WIlliamthesoundguy
I wants to translate and have a video training in my language so that sound engineers who don't speak English will understand and use it as well.the training will be by my self ,pls can I go on?
Run a line out f your daw computer to an input on your board. You can not record and have that input on at the same time, but you can record, then listen and edit. If you wanted to do it at the same time, use earphones or speakers running out of the computer and not through an input.
That seems a little convoluted, especially considering how flexible the routing of the Impact is supposed to be. I'm going to look into it some more but thanks for your reply.
And if you press auto complete it sets 8 channels at ones and you don’t have to do it one by one, well i have the xpression 3 I guess it’s bout the same
Actually I got some info from the user manual that we can use channel 1-32 instead of 33-64 by changing the switches on the Madi usb card... its there in the manual
If you want ch 1 on madi 33 and ch 2-ch 32 following consecutively, you can assign ch1 to madi 33, then hit the auto complete button and it will assign ch1-ch32 to madi33-madi64.
Soundcraft has zero info on this in their manual or on-line support. The way you have described it is the way that it works, but does not make intuitive logical sense... This is a great board, but LOUSY documentation, leaving us to hunt and peck and guess at how to make it work. Soundcraft, boo.
Actually the information you need is in section 5.4 of the soundcraft user manual, the reason the first USB channel is set to channel 33 is your MADI output card dip switches are in the default setting, depending on the number of channels you need assigned to stage boxes can be varied with the dip switches, by changing the dip switches you can change the number of USB channels you have. So the USB channel out start address can be changed by changing dip switch #2 to the off position.
Get an Audio interface (scarlet 2i2) that would do the job. Connect computer to interface, then to input board, choose the fader for that channel and that’s it.
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Hi Bruce, a big hand from good old Germany for this video!
This topic was already driving me crazy, but since I watched your video, everything works as expected!
Pretty good explanation, easy to understand and you made my day! Thank's a lot for this!
Bruce, You made my day, and settled a long debate, I've had with myself. I only wish the video was longer. Thank you buddy.
Thank You for taking the time to help out guys who need to find out pertinent info on this specific console with a quick TH-cam search!!! Stay well!!!
Just learning this mixer and I’m from Florida too thanks Bruce !
Thanks for this video!!! I knew that I had to use ch 33 - 64 but had no idea of the process to make board & DAW sync. 👍🏻👍🏻
You are amazing! My church was like we probably can’t record our service and we have this board. I’m going to attempt to record with studio one 3.0 on my MBP 2012 this sunday. Thanks so much!
Thank you Bruce. You are a good man for sharing this info.
Thanks so much! I've been trying setting up my outputs 1 for 1 after watching a load of other vids..- I watched this vid, set them up from 33 as suggested and I'm recording on my Mac now! I'll actully use it for tangible work now so a genuine thanks!
Did you have to do anything special to get the SI to playback what you've recorded?
You can also change the configuration of the usb MADI interface with the internal DIP switch to either MADI Cat5 1to32 USB 33to64 or USB1to32 and MADI 33to64. it's in the user manual.
Thank you Bruce... Really Apreciate Your Info. it helped me a lot...
That's just what I needed. Thank you, sir. God bless.
Thanks so much, this has been super helpful!👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Bruce! Saved me hours of trouble =)
Your welcome
Great video!! Very helpful. Had no idea about setting up with the 33 up. I have a question though. Is it possible to route the DSP settings of the SI impact to may Daw. I have Logic Pro Studio X and am new to the Impact. But, I do love this mixer!!
Incredibly helpful, thank you so much!
If you have any questions or need any help, I do free FaceTime with Church of helping or training their Sound Guys, on Life Sound. I have complete several class and it is free for churches. I am not a sales person, just a Christian that loves helping out Churches and God has given me this Talent. My phone number is 386-365-3784.
You saved my butt thank you for this video!!
Bruce, you can change the settings in the Si Impact (dipswitches on the output card) to assign the usb output channels as 1-32 so that you don't have the problem you had. See the user's guide. It explains how to set the dip switches. You set them to off, off, on, off.
Sorry, I don't know if you can or not
Would this change affect the live sound output? Main outs?
Thank You very much for this video. God bless you. Best regards from Germany.
Really thanks man!
Thanks a lot , you save my day.
Thank you sir for your packaged information
Can you please make a tutorial video on how to setup the outputs for madi to get a playback in pro tools (or any DAW) since I'm getting signal through the inputs channels by following this video (thanks btw) but I can't get it to playback. Please HELP!
Hi Bruce thank's for video. I 've a question. In my case I use stage box SC i32/12 and Cubase Pro as a DAW. During my multichannel records I observed a drop outs in records through out the channels feed with phantom power. Its onset is about 4-5x/30 minutes record. Please do you any similar experience (or somebody from the discussion?) And of course how it is possible to solve it? Thank's in advance. Jan.
Any tips on getting the eq and compressor to send through the madi card?
how to connect on pc, to record??. can i do the USB cable direct to pc then make the line as default?.. it wont capture any audio
Which garage band are you using and, will a tablet also work for hooking up to the si impact?
Question, what do I need to do a live mix for a church livestream? We have the soundcraft si impact
Thanks for the video. I'm using the SI in my church as well, and I want to record live services in my DAW (using GarageBand presently as well). Question I have is this -- I'm using the Aviom card in my console and presently have my channels routed to Aviom channels. If I attempt to map them to USB patch channels, I get the message that I have "unpatch" them first from the Aviom assignments. Is there not a way to have the channels patched to both simultaneously for live recording without impacting the IEM feeds to my musicians?
Use our mic sends for your monitors send to Aviom
Great info, thanks.
Thank you Bruce! Saved me hours of crap
Hi Bruce, How do we record all the tracks at the same time in Garage Band?
Thank you!! you saved me!!
Glad I could help.
Bruce, thanks so much for putting this together - super helpful! Do you have any insight on how to get the sound from the DAW back into the SI Impact? I've tried change the input patch to MADI USB CARD01 on a channel but no sound happening ....
The user's guide explains how to set up you DAW and the Si Impact for this.
You need to be sure you have downloaded the correct Soundcraft driver to your computer for the DAW to use and then make sure that the DAW recognizes the driver and the Soundcraft SI Impact.
If you have windows you need to be sure that the Si is recognized for recording - and for playback in you sound settings in the control panel.
This was very helpful, thank you. My volume into the DAW is very low and I can't figure out how to raise it. Any suggestions? I understand that it is sending a pre-EQ, pre-effects, etc... signal, but the volume is so low I can hardly do anything with it in the DAW.
Yes it is. Soundcraft says that they did this on purpose to provide plenty of headroom. But just turn up the gain on your input channels and make sure you are getting a good signal level on each Si channel that you are sending to the DAW. The fader level does not matter because the signal from the Si to the DAW does no go through the faders. It leaves the Si right after the gain control.
Could you send the post mix level into the DAW? So instead of pre fx it is post?
Bruce - could I ask please - if I wanted to run a usb drive to run audio playback what would the best approach be with this desk
John T Doherty sorry but the usb will not let you play music. It is only there for updating.
How are you gain levels going into the DAW?
Howdy all. One question regarding the SI Impact and connecting to a DAW. I've connected mine, have set up the MADI Channels 33-64 and I see the signal coming into the DAW. And it records. When it comes to playing back what I've recorded, I'm not seeing anything or hearing anything coming back to the board. Do I have to change something on the board to hear what has been recorded? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
jazzrengue you will need to come out of the daw and back into a channel on the board.
Hi Bruce,
I have assigned all of the channels but when I look up for assignment in my DAW (Adobe Auditions) it only gives option for Combo or (combined) tracks not individual tracks. So in turn it only allows me to record the mix from the Impact not individual tracks. Any suggestions? Soundcraft support were not at all helpful. They said it was a setting inside the DAW program. I dont think the DAW is combining all of the inputs into a single combined track. Any help would be awesome if you have any to give. God Bless.
Having the same problem with ableton live. Did you get this figured out?
James
Thanks Bro!!!
How i can read song from my daw (Logic pro) With thé si expression 2
Thanks. So what happens after you've recorded tracks and then begin to play back from your DAW? Let's say you do not print your effects settings to the tracks. Is there a way to route the output tracks back to tracks 1 through 32 so that you hear the audio playing back with the same mix settings that you had while recording?
Yes. The tracks will come back in to the channels. Take a look at the user's guide on the Soundcraft site for the Si Impact.
Late to this party. I have managed to get the routing back to the si sorted. But everything going to tape seems to be preFX (post LPF though). Are your multis definitely printing to tape with compression/EQ etc applied?
Hey man, thanks for the video. The problem is, How can you listen the playback from the DAW trough the console?
Come out of your DAW back into a channel in your board.
Thank you so much!
Very insightful, i used this video to set all my inputs in the DAW. Now I have added a stage box,
But now it does not send signal to the DAW. Only when input is connected & assigned directly to the board. Do you know how to address this issue?
I am sorry, but I don’t.
So I'm interested in this DAW card, but I'm running High Sierra on an iMac, have you upgraded your OS? And has it caused any issues?
Jonathan Holliday I have not had any issues with updating os. I have not updated to the last os yet.
Is it possible to record LR only?
Hi Bruce. Can you help me find out how to get a playback from the computer through the usb to the mixer? Don't know yet how to do the patching
Hello, get a USB to XLR cable , then plug it to the boards inputs. Then assign the fader to that channel input.
2 - get an Audio interface (Scarlett 2i2) connect the computer to the interface and then to an input on the board. With this audio interface you’ll have more control over the volume coming out from computer plus this device comes with Ableton lite free download(all you need is the serial #) I hope this helps.! Have a good day and project.
Any expert here please. Do you know how to get the recorded playback returned back to your si console please ?
Might be a silly question but how do you send more gain?? I'm using logic pro x. Everything is working just need more gain.
I dont think you can. You can adjust in the Logic Pro channel.
Excelente .. gracias
How do you connect the L/R output to the laptop DAW to record a L/R board mix?
I would select the master fader, then like all the other channels, select input on the screen, scroll down to input patch or whatever and select 33 and or 34 and see if the l and r come to channels 1 and 2 on the board. Go through that whole patch selection and see if l and r is like 63 and 64 or something.
Thank youuuuuu!!!
So how do you get the audio from the DAW back through the SI Impact, so what you're hearing from monitors hooked up to mixer is post-DAW? I ask because I want to do additional fx, processing, etc. in the DAW, then hear that output in my monitors. Thanks!
Did you manage to work this out? I'm having the same problem
The Si sends the output to the DAW right after the Si's gain control. This is a dry signal.
If you correctly set up the Si, the signal from the DAW will go back to the Si.
How do you physically connect the board to the Mac?
I believe there is a usb 2.0 (printer style) that goes in the back of the Si Impact and then into your computer’s USB
thank You!
***Update I connected my Macbook Pro 2012 with Studio one 3.0 artist on Sunday 10/7/2018. Selected the soundcraft impact as the input for the computer under preferences. Selected the soundcraft impact as device in studio one. put 16 track in my DAW. went through the steps above and when I selected one of the tracks. I then clicked menu and clicked auto complete. I selected channel 1, and followed the steps above and then before exiting I used auto complete to automatically complete. This sent channels 1-8 to my daw as 33-40 It appears my DAW may have already been set up on channels 1-32 and I got repeats on channels 33-64. ***Autocomplete will do this for you for 8 consecutive channels. No live sound was messed up. This only changed what was sent out via USB.
You are welcome.
What is MADI? Is that something other than MIDI?
We don’t use channe 1-9 we start using them at 10-32, would I still start at 33 and assign it to 10?
Yes, soundcraft doesn’t allow you to direct output two outs at the same time. That’s why they divided it into half and half. After the 33 channel you are good to patch madi or dante. If not then you’ll keep on looping to ch 1 even after patching it with a different channel.
How do you playback recorded sound on the mixer
Joaquin Lopez run a cable from your DAW back to your Board. Just make sure you aren’t recording that channel then.
Thank you
Hi, it's possible record on a pendrive, from usb output?????
No. The output jack on the Si Impact does not work with a flash drive.
In which programs can I record sound (laptop on Windows) and how to connect it?
Ableton lite (free when you purchase a sound interface_Scarlet 2i2 is a good one)
I love Soundcraft Si products, but they do have a few short-comings compared to some other digital mixers. For example, the Allen & Heath QU series can PLAY or MULTI-TRACK RECORD right to a USB device (i.e. flash stick or better yet SSD drive) without the need for external PC's and stuff.
HELLO PEOPLE... Please note that for the Si Impact, if you want to make it more simpler for the USB out channels do the following..
1 Make sure power is OFF!
2 pull out the interface card in the back
3.Change DIP switch #2 to OFF (down) (USB range), then the USB would handle 1-32. With it up it's 33 to 64.
But if you think you'll use the MADI interface better not.
WIlliamthesoundguy
Would this affect live sound? Our church wants to add multi track recording and not mess up any live sound.
I dont think it would mess up live sound because it only affects the madi card and not the board
Sweet, that's what I want to make sure about. What I figured but won't be able to play around with it until sunday morning
I wants to translate and have a video training in my language so that sound engineers who don't speak English will understand and use it as well.the training will be by my self ,pls can I go on?
Sure you are welcome to use.
how to set the out of mixer for the monitor? thanks
I can do one, but it will be in a few days as I am at Youth Camp this week.
+Bruce Dicks thanks mate! Looking forward to that man!
Is this mixer good as the Allen & Heath SQ?
no
@@BruceDicks Thank you.
Run a line out f your daw computer to an input on your board. You can not record and have that input on at the same time, but you can record, then listen and edit. If you wanted to do it at the same time, use earphones or speakers running out of the computer and not through an input.
That seems a little convoluted, especially considering how flexible the routing of the Impact is supposed to be. I'm going to look into it some more but thanks for your reply.
What is the physical connection?
Karl Shawn usb
And if you press auto complete it sets 8 channels at ones and you don’t have to do it one by one, well i have the xpression 3 I guess it’s bout the same
Does this affect the main out at all to use the auto complete?
Actually I got some info from the user manual that we can use channel 1-32 instead of 33-64 by changing the switches on the Madi usb card... its there in the manual
has anybody been able to use the other 2 usb ports on top of the board. one is for charging but what and how does the other usb port work
can it control your DAW?
No
If you want ch 1 on madi 33 and ch 2-ch 32 following consecutively, you can assign ch1 to madi 33, then hit the auto complete button and it will assign ch1-ch32 to madi33-madi64.
By default it 33-64 but we can change that to 1-32
th-cam.com/video/SzZJy7tWE8E/w-d-xo.html here is the TH-cam link for a monitor send. Hope this is what you was looking for.
Soundcraft has zero info on this in their manual or on-line support. The way you have described it is the way that it works, but does not make intuitive logical sense... This is a great board, but LOUSY documentation, leaving us to hunt and peck and guess at how to make it work. Soundcraft, boo.
Earl McCluskie I've set this thing up for recording 3-4 times, but I get confused each time. It's infuriating how bad the documentation is.
This is by no measure "a great board"
Actually the information you need is in section 5.4 of the soundcraft user manual, the reason the first USB channel is set to channel 33 is your MADI output card dip switches are in the default setting, depending on the number of channels you need assigned to stage boxes can be varied with the dip switches, by changing the dip switches you can change the number of USB channels you have. So the USB channel out start address can be changed by changing dip switch #2 to the off position.
It's literally in the first paragraph in the section on the USB card.
No it does not control the Daw. Sorry
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How do you playback what is recorded in DAW to output through mixer?
Get an Audio interface (scarlet 2i2) that would do the job. Connect computer to interface, then to input board, choose the fader for that channel and that’s it.
Thank you