I have never heard of this early Christian text. How interesting and wonderful in its parallel to the restored gospel on behalf of the dead and those who lived in times or countries without the knowledge of Jesus Christ. This accounts for the majority of earth populations and peoples. Glory to God on high for the restored gospel! Everyone has a chance!
Really interesting information. Thank you for presenting this. Also, as humans in front of a mic we often need an outline with key words and phrases to help us to not ramble. Keep up the good work.
This aligns with what we believe the original text of the Revelation of Peter had when the prayers of the elect for the dead and baptism releases them from hell. "Then I will grant to my called and elect ones whomsoever they request from me, out of the punishment. And I will give them [i.e. those for whom the elect pray] a fine baptism in salvation from the Acherousian lake which is, they say, in the Elysian field, a portion of righteousness with my holy ones." Scholars are doubtful if Peter was the original author, and the writing seems to come from around the same time 150 AD. Apostatized christians will argue that the reasons Shepard of Hermas, Revelation of Peter the Book of Nicodemus and other books never made it as the final cannon is because the teachings about the eventual salvation and degrees of glory are incorrect, buuuuut who are they to say which is correct? In later versions of the Revelation of Peter the section was removed. It seems that there was debate about these teachings by the early christians, and in my personal opinion the wrong side won the debate.
You'll find a lot more if you can get a copy of Ken Peterson's "Mormon Doctrine in the Apocrypha: a Concordance of Teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Extracanonical Writings"
I didn't see or hear anything that said there could only be one lower place. They, collectively, were assigned to a lower place, because each could only be assigned to one lower place, but that doesn't mean they are all assigned to the same one lower place each.
This is a fair point. Also, the most important thing that the Shepherd of Hermas shows is that our interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15 is consistent with early Christian thought: in the resurrection, there are different glories. One where you live with God and a lower glory, or "glories", where you are saved from etetnal hell, but not living with God.
You're very knowledgeable and articulate. People realizing their sins and accepting Jesus sounds just like Alma II's conversion. The stones and the tower sounds somewhat similar to Lehi's Tree of Life vision, specifically walking uprightly (as explained by Nephi in 1 Nephi 16). The vision in D&C 138 also matches the Gospel of Nicodemus.
I have never heard of this early Christian text. How interesting and wonderful in its parallel to the restored gospel on behalf of the dead and those who lived in times or countries without the knowledge of Jesus Christ. This accounts for the majority of earth populations and peoples. Glory to God on high for the restored gospel! Everyone has a chance!
Well done!
You have a hater comment. According to Jesus you are on the right track, and should leap for joy. Keep up the good work!
Really interesting information. Thank you for presenting this. Also, as humans in front of a mic we often need an outline with key words and phrases to help us to not ramble. Keep up the good work.
This aligns with what we believe the original text of the Revelation of Peter had when the prayers of the elect for the dead and baptism releases them from hell. "Then I will grant to my called and elect ones whomsoever they request from me, out of the punishment. And I will give them [i.e. those for whom the elect pray] a fine baptism in salvation from the Acherousian lake which is, they say, in the Elysian field, a portion of righteousness with my holy ones." Scholars are doubtful if Peter was the original author, and the writing seems to come from around the same time 150 AD. Apostatized christians will argue that the reasons Shepard of Hermas, Revelation of Peter the Book of Nicodemus and other books never made it as the final cannon is because the teachings about the eventual salvation and degrees of glory are incorrect, buuuuut who are they to say which is correct? In later versions of the Revelation of Peter the section was removed. It seems that there was debate about these teachings by the early christians, and in my personal opinion the wrong side won the debate.
You'll find a lot more if you can get a copy of Ken Peterson's "Mormon Doctrine in the Apocrypha: a Concordance of Teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Extracanonical Writings"
I didn't see or hear anything that said there could only be one lower place. They, collectively, were assigned to a lower place, because each could only be assigned to one lower place, but that doesn't mean they are all assigned to the same one lower place each.
This is a fair point. Also, the most important thing that the Shepherd of Hermas shows is that our interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15 is consistent with early Christian thought: in the resurrection, there are different glories. One where you live with God and a lower glory, or "glories", where you are saved from etetnal hell, but not living with God.
You're very knowledgeable and articulate. People realizing their sins and accepting Jesus sounds just like Alma II's conversion. The stones and the tower sounds somewhat similar to Lehi's Tree of Life vision, specifically walking uprightly (as explained by Nephi in 1 Nephi 16). The vision in D&C 138 also matches the Gospel of Nicodemus.
I'll look into the Gospel of Nicodemus, but the awesome thing about the Shepherd of Hermas is how early of a text it is.
Another bullseye for Joseph and the restoration of primitive Christianity.
In what world do you live???
Care to say where he went wrong?
This one.
He thinks this is Kolob
one that's not bitter?
Way too much chatter. Get to the point.