War Against Cheaters

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    Its about time to show you guys how I actually have to deal with all the cheaters in the game!
    Pixel Tribe is a game inspired by Forager and Clash of Clans where you build and upgrade your own clan of vikings.
    PixelTribe is a game where you can build, upgrade and manage your own clan of vikings. Here you can craft and equip weapons and armor for your vikings, and send them on different raids against other bad-guys.
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  • @Tiny_Tree
    @Tiny_Tree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    TYSM! I have been dealing with cheaters for weeks now on my mobile game and this video has helped so much. Good luck with the rest of your game developing!

  • @OPPEYRADY
    @OPPEYRADY 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another solution for catching a LOT of cheaters is intentional honeypots, basically make them think something is abusable and when they touch something you KNOW a normal human player could never touch you can flag them.

  • @ThePengiest
    @ThePengiest 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    woah i love the forager art style its super cool :O

  • @flyingdragon4613
    @flyingdragon4613 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    That's pretty nice, also cool on how a cheating detection works.
    I used to play this game but wasnt my style, this looks good for the active normal players.

  • @Gegrod
    @Gegrod วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Ahhh why i didnt seen this game earlier?! I will play it next day, probably will stick with game for few months, good job its a great game 👍

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you! Glad it looks appealing

  • @ekisai
    @ekisai วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    that part about the savefile being stored in plaintext made me remember when pg3d did that lmao

  • @masonplay69noob
    @masonplay69noob 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Wake up honey a new pixel tribe video dropped

  • @biggiecheese5255
    @biggiecheese5255 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Another way of detecting modded APKS is by sending a “heartbeat” to your server and then your server verifies if that heartbeat is legit. The heartbeat can have info like app version, special hash, etc

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา

      You might be right about this, if im able to get the proper value of the app version or vendor of the app i might be able to do this! Ill have to look into it!:D

  • @Hino_dev
    @Hino_dev 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thank you for developing this legendary game. Thank you very much. ❤

  • @TheHyperSw0rd
    @TheHyperSw0rd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I knew you wouldn't abandon us like dani!

    • @uhhno841
      @uhhno841 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      dani didnt abandon, he was harassed stalked, and demanded to the point he said peace, cant blame him

    • @TheHyperSw0rd
      @TheHyperSw0rd วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@uhhno841 i was joking

  • @dawsansanmyint5421
    @dawsansanmyint5421 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    About the cheat detection part,some people like me sell a lot of things in bulk so we rarely level up fast,btw im brrrrrrrrrrrt from from one of the accidentally banned players

  • @carraradezembronatal
    @carraradezembronatal วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Clicked on the video because game looked good and I wanted to know what was. I'd love to see a version of this on Steam. Interesting video btw

  • @BloxedZ3R0
    @BloxedZ3R0 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Forager vibes

  • @Tugatitatoxica69
    @Tugatitatoxica69 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have something to say about the ban wave thing and is that probably cheaters will just make many acounts and do different cheats in each one and then wait to the ban wave, so you tried to get less cheaters but instead you got them to do several cheating acounts at the same time

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thats a good point, you might be right, and banning people more often might help, but if they have multiple account testing different things its gonna be really hard to deal with:P

  • @DAHYUNEE7
    @DAHYUNEE7 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Can’t wait for the new game 👍

  • @leighkirk4428
    @leighkirk4428 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Your game is the best game in the world

  • @yottawatts9470
    @yottawatts9470 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    subbed this is cool nice video dude

  • @ErebusPlays
    @ErebusPlays วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is great! When the game was starting, I admittedly tried downloading modded to see how deep the game works. Multiplayer was not a thing then, so no damage done to anyone, but did ruin the experience for me.
    If you will be adding another layer of security, please don't upload the rest of the thought process since the modders can/will see this and give you another round of headache.
    Keep up the good work, man! 🎉

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      True, ive only showed the tip of the iceberg here, and there are still more cheat detections ways to add:D

  • @jokerofspades-xt3bs
    @jokerofspades-xt3bs วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This game looks very familiar. You wouldn’t happen to be a fan of the game “Forager” right?

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Huge fan of forager, but i think i might have copied a few too many things from it (mainly grass color, text and xp bar), many seems to think the entire game is a ripoff of forager:P

  • @ryanwinchy
    @ryanwinchy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Given how hard multiplayer is to implement - are you still glad you did it?
    I've been somewhat scared off by the general consensus in indie devs that multiplayer is the big bad 😅

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thats a good question, overall i am very glad i added it! It created a whole new engagement and community around my game! For many the game felt much more worth while when they were able to work together towards larger goals as a Clan. But it has caused a ton of issues as well with balancing, cheating and having to make more content for those that have played alot. Im not sure where the game would be atm if i didnt add multiplayer, but overall ive also learned a ton and its very fun seeing people take things much more seriously with multiplayer:P

    • @ryanwinchy
      @ryanwinchy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you, such an interesting insight, definitely seems worth it for this type of game, really took it to a new level! The video was fascinating as well, definitely not something to be taken lightly!
      My first game is pvp so online multiplayer is pretty much required. Any good courses you know to help learn the multiplayer dev side?

  • @con31_
    @con31_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Joo, new video!

  • @electek4809
    @electek4809 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    the goat is back!!!

  • @agentqshmickelfritz8714
    @agentqshmickelfritz8714 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    *Hackers taking notes 😏📝
    Though I'm guessing you only revealed some of your hack detection methods LOL

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Haha yeah luckily i got more tools in my toolbox than what i showed here xD

  • @nekokiki4002
    @nekokiki4002 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is it hard to do something like valve for tf2?
    Where they banned all bots and bot hosters in one go to the point they can't even make new steam accounts without being immediately banned?
    I feel like it's some aggressive anti-cheat system but im not a programmer so idk

  • @paipai762
    @paipai762 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you started making this game from scratch now with multiplayer in mind, do you think you would make most of the stats synced with a server and make the server decide some of the actions players can take? This probably also means keeping their whole savefile on the server and might be hard to scale depending on the game...

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thats a good question, im not sure i would. The technical requirements for putting all the logic on a server is huge, and it would probably triple the development time of the game:/ But while i wouldnt store all the stats on the server i would definitely add more server checks and generally make the game more reliant on a server.

    • @paipai762
      @paipai762 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @simonkvgamedev Yeah, that sounds logical. For context, I'm making an online arena type game(real-time action combat), and my server does movement and collision calculations for all players and projectiles. I'm comfortable the cheapest possible Ubuntu server from kamatera (4$/month) can handle around 70-100 players, but if the game pops off, I can see that I need to develop some way to scale this system, and it sure is more work and costly than just making some p2p system... will be even worse as the complexity of the game increases. Pure c++ server, so it is quite fast

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    6:31 i'm assuming you already worked around this by doing stuff like maybe adding a third variable, but wouldn't this be bad to reveal publicly cuz cheaters know of the issue which is relatively easy to bypass?

  • @szenosdev
    @szenosdev วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey. What are your thoughts about this new Google play developer verification? (This is what makes your name, address etc public under your game page). I know my question is not about cheating, but I would appreciate your opinion

  • @TOREM-DEV
    @TOREM-DEV วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HEEEEEEEES BAAAAACCK

  • @RageBird7200
    @RageBird7200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    bro remembered his password

  • @VeRNal_FunGUs-mh5tv
    @VeRNal_FunGUs-mh5tv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I still can't get to log in on my iphone, I, I use google play games to connect my account so I can't just tranfer that data to ios

  • @darknetworld
    @darknetworld ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wow... not easy. But online is hardest to do and maintain. Offline was fine...

  • @Fr3ix3s
    @Fr3ix3s วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    inspired, u mean a visual copy, and some mechanics a foking equal copy

  • @hellojuggalos
    @hellojuggalos 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    i approve of cheating in mobile games because they are all scams anyway. The business practices of these mtx based games are scummy and i hope the cheaters ruin every single one.

  • @Timon-do2wf
    @Timon-do2wf 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What can i do with pvp tokens?

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Make even better gear :D

  • @commandocorp5834
    @commandocorp5834 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    imma be onest if you know how to use cheat engine and you get infinite gold with it you deserve it

  • @BrickWall-Studios
    @BrickWall-Studios วันที่ผ่านมา

    subscribed

  • @ozaiozado
    @ozaiozado 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    why all looks a rippoff of Forager?

  • @AndyDelasAlas
    @AndyDelasAlas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sorry but im only cheating bcs every time i play, normaly my account just disappears and i cant do anything about it but i only use my cheats once a while bcs i still want to play the game normaly.

    • @AndyDelasAlas
      @AndyDelasAlas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Btw I play on mobile so I just downloaded the game on happymod.

  • @Zgaming210
    @Zgaming210 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hey can you add chat for clans?

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Right now a clan chat is not in the scope of the game. A clan chat will introduce a whole new layer of legal issues, liabilities and things like this. So until i get a complete overview of all the consequences of adding a clan chat, it will have to wait

    • @Zgaming210
      @Zgaming210 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@simonkvgamedev Oh okay

  • @GhostShadow.0316
    @GhostShadow.0316 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    WOOOOOOH NEW VIDEO GUYS
    wake up my grandgrandpa!
    also won't you have to deal with more cheaters after showed we your anticheat methods?
    lastly, please rework the player profile layout 🥹

    • @simonkvgamedev
      @simonkvgamedev  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Trust me, ive only showed the tip of the iceberg, so i think we should be fine :D
      Haha yeah ill get to the player profile xD

    • @GhostShadow.0316
      @GhostShadow.0316 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@simonkvgamedev that is only the tip?! I can't come up with any more idea of cheat-deteting &_&
      ok I trust you