Europe, China And Japan RESTART Development Of The Combustion Engine!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Just when it seemed it was all over the Combustion engine gets a new lease of life.. Pure EV is in the doldrums as consumers turn against heavy, expensive cars and a new generation of small, light combustion engines is being developed by Renault, Geely, Toyota, Subaru, Nissan and Mazda!!
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We can’t go back… I love my old cars but the planet can’t take much more notwithstanding the effect on our breathable air!
We’re not going back though.. this new generation will be smaller, lighter, more efficient and with hybrid tech could make an additional alternative to electric only. Furthermore legislation absolutely has to be adapted to encourage lighter vehicles.. be they electric or hybrid or petrol.
The carbon story is a big fat lie. It does not cause global warming. There are several books and documentaries (TH-cam will censor these) explaining this. Plants use carbon in photosynthesis, more carbon, more growth and better yields for farmers. Our planet was designed by an Almighty God and does not need human intervention to save it.
One of the biggest effect on our/your breathable air is the pollution caused by the coal burning power stations in America, China and India that service their EV vehicle industry.
In the UK it would be nice to think that all that nice electricity needed for electric cars is being produced by little hilltop windmills. Unfortunately the truth is rather different and until our nuclear stations are up and running fossil fuel is being used.
It's more industry than transport! Think how we have come from 2 strokes & gas guzzlers in the 70's to small catalysed turbos - way cleaner & there has been little further development because of the focus on stupid EV's.
You really give a lot of importance to the human species, look at the size and history of the planet, we are nothing.
Jaguar have really screwed themselves... I always thought that they were jumping into electric-only far too early. Has there ever been a car company that's been so mismanaged yet still survives?
Jaguar won't be around in 5 years
Their Ingenium petrol and diesel engines were crap and horrifying unreliable. I think they saw the chance to jump to EVs as an escape 😂😂😂
Chrysler has been in worse shape once or twice.
Lotus would be in much the same position too.
As a Petrol head and also working JLR car plant this Good and Bad news. I always thought Electric was Bad news but when JLR went Balls Deep full Electric at Halewood, i was secretly hoping it would take off or we would be screwed. Now Electric cars are now being seen in a Bad Light ( not surprised) this has put our factory into Jeopardy! The BigWigs haven't thought this through and I feel this could damage the plant Severely !!
I don't have EV's..
But I hate the push to force out ICE.
Exactly. First the way too strict rules forced almost every manifacturer to apply Volkswagen scandal like software. Engines have become way less reliable since early 00's. I really hope we can find a synthetic fuel that works on any car and potentially develop a new kind of engine that will run better on synthetic fuels. Of course I see many upsides of an electric car and I'm not opposed to it, but the things the government did to promote PHEV and EV cars are ridiculous. They sponsored 50k on a 90k Tesla (they did this in the Netherlands) and sponsored the Outlander PHEV that wasn't any more fuel efficient than an ICE in reality. If peoplle chose those as a company car, they avoided 200-400 on income tax, because 'they helped the environment'. Those people never charged their PHEV so they basically got a huge tax cut on an inefficient SUV. The most cruel thing is that only higher incomes could benefit from this, who generally have a much bigger carbon footprint. These people could have bought the same car without the tax cut, while it was paid from taxpayer money that also came from from lower classes.
Completely agree that governments were pushed to make bigger cars because of legislation.
@@HJ-vs7lf Its the exact same rubbish as 'Offsetting Carbon'. The poorer people end up getting taxed harder because they are simply -too fucking poor- to afford luxuries like taking a flight to another country once every 10 years, or hell, even run a small business. If you're rich you can afford to pay for the luxury to "Offset Carbon" all the while getting tax breaks because you install air source heating, buy a tesla and buy your firm a fleet of teslas.
Personally I think this carbon thing is (pun intended) a smoke screen.
Pollution IS bad but this whole carbon business? Way out of proportion.
@@bunkaaa8726 couldn't agree more. There's no tax on kerosine at all and container ships basically run on raw oil. Meanwhile there's less purchasing tax here on a full size Range Rover with a PHEV system than on a Kia Picanto, an A-segment hatchback. In absolute numbers, not comparatively. I feel like we bet fully on electric cars because we can't make the real choices. It's easier for lawmakers to plan based on a pipe dream.
It’s just that EV’s are already cheaper to build than ice cars and are better to drive and cheaper to run. There’s no push EV’s are just better. (From a confirmed petrol head!)
@@oldbasted You're unfortunately very wrong. There is 100% a push for EV for a 'green agenda' opted by the cabal of government bodies.
EV's are not 'just better'. They need precious metals and resources strip mined from protected tropical environments. nearly 100% of Cobalt is mined from child / slave labour.
Most of the materials are incredibly hard to recycle and the battery pack makes up 50% of the vehicles mass, sometimes more.
When a battery pack fails (and that seems to be between 4 to 10 years) the car in most cases is written off as the cost of replacing it is more then half value of the vehicle.
The efficiency range TANKS after a few years from what I've seen, and most EV users are on a lease / PCP meaning they go for the next model between 3 to 5 years, making more demand for another new vehicle, thus demanding more production, thus demanding MORE carbon footprint to be created.
Considering an EV has more then 2 times the production carbon footprint of an ICE (I think) I can only say no,
they are absolutely not 'just better'.
Just goes to show how government really knows nothing about anything
The alternative is the free market, such doesn't just not give a damn, but actively works against any attempt to do better for us.
@@alastairward2774 the free market literally delivers what the customer asks for 😂
@@ln5747 "the German manufacturers lobbied hard against limits on size and weight"
@@ln5747 the customer does not ask for what's good for the future of this rock. The attitude is, who cares about future generations, I'll be dead by then.That's the problem.
@@heiner71 a climate ideologist I see.
At age 64 here in the States, I ride my e-bike on errands around town and commuting half the time, and I drive a regular car for the rest and for now, that works well for me. And an EV would not be possible, no way to charge it in my apartment and too pricey to purchase. And last February I went on a road trip with a friend who drives a gas/electric hybrid car and that was great, seemed about perfect. Gas power on the highway, electric power around town and the car knows which power source to tap on its own. Cool.
Interesting how the highest concentration of EV ownership in France (where I live) and the UK (where I'm from) are in the wealthy parts of Paris and London where no one has a driveway to charge their cars. I don't know what it's like in the USA but here there are so many public chargers for slow overnight charging in the cities and a lot of people charge at work or the supermarket where there are plenty of rapid chargers. You can put a week's driving on your car in a 40 minute shopping trip
I've bought my 3 children a Toyota Aygo, Suzuki Alto and Vauxhall Agila as first cars, all small, light, normally aspirated petrol. All under £2k, all reliable, all 50mpg+. No manufacturing carbon footprint due to age. As a means to get from A to B cars cars like these are the best solution imo. Btw, I'm no eco warrior, I own an R8 😂
Due to the shape of its combustion chamber, the Wankel will always remain a thermally inefficient engine. One can't change that, that's why nearly everybody dropped it.
Hey, I also own a Suzuki Alto (Nissan Pixo actually, but they are the same car). Great choice, it's also really fun to drive
let's bring in repairable long lasting cars, stop built in redundancy. that way we make less cars and save our resources.
This is what happens when hype meets reality.
Indeed. In the war against physics and platitudes, physics wins every time. EVs are wrong on many levels.
Why hype are you talking about?
I've been driving a dual motor Tesla Model 3 charging at home since 2018. The prodigious instant torque is fantastic, silent, smooth, one pedal driving, and it doesn't stink. You don't know what you are missing.
@@fjalicsYes, but don’t think that you’re doing the environment any good. Electric cars have never and will never enable us to shut down any steam turbine electricity generating power stations because they’ve got to back up renewables 100%. Ultimately, your electric car is charged via cheap, plentiful, reliable, portable, energy dense, highly taxed hydrocarbon or nuclear power.
@@fjalics I know, I've owned a Kia e-Niro since 2019 and its been brilliant, totally reliable and last year cost €349 to drive 20,700 km...but you won't change the minds of petrol headed luddites here..they will cling on to their stink and noise as long as they can
I have always been against electricity being ruled as a blanket solution to everything.
When everything is grid connected the grid has the control. Unless the grid gets much bigger it won’t work anyway. All the data centres, heat pumps, HGVs charging on the grid - really? Just not possible. Reliance on one method of energy delivery enhances the vulnerability of civilisation. Great if damaging civilisation is the point of the mandates.
Why?
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
I drive a 44t HGV, there is no way that an EV truck is going to replace diesel.
They don't have the ability to do big mileage & take big weights at the same time, it simply doesn't work.
Not to mention the charging infrastructure that you need for such large capacity batteries, you'd need to install this at every depot, most don't have the space to do this.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270because cell chemistry isn't mature enough, the infrastructure isn't there and it'll take 100 years for that level of change.
You and millions of others who dare to think beyond the groupthink of net zero.
As an Aston Martin DB9 owner I see this as further proof that I need to just carry right on as normal! No I don't daily it, I have a hybrid SUV for doing the boring everyday family stuff but on Sundays & Fundays, just for a few hours I haven't a care in the world! Long live the Infernal Combustion Engine I say!👍👏👏👏☺️
PS. A DB9 only weighs 1785kg😉
'Only' 😅
@@mordu5620 compared with an EV! That’s what I meant!😂
No problem, the DB 9 will soon break down and become scrap metal, used to build a new EV. 😂
@@HansOleBenonisen🤭
Nothing screams "car guy" like a Weber DCOE as an ornament on a side table.
You're right.... i have a 1960's Borrani Ferrari wheel for a glass top coffee table👍✌️🇬🇧
@@okgo8315 Ooof. And I thought the Weber was good, which it is but holy cow.
I must find an old DCOE too 👍👍✌️🇬🇧
Or a Dellorto DHLA, they were/are infinitely better than the Webber.
Governments also failed by badly supporting infrastructure: In order to make an EV useful, the car needs to be charged when you set off on a journey, which means home charging. People living in cities (especially in high rise flats) without home parking have no access to this & there has been no incentive to resolve it.
Government also failed where decent public transport hasn't been developed adequately.
Where people live in high density areas, they likely don't need a car at all and a bus or bike would suffice. The Dutch seemed to grasp that quickly enough.
@@alastairward2774 exactly. Living in a high density area should mean there is less requirement for a personal vehicle, there is no excuse for unavailable and/or unaffordable public transportation.
@@teepee9466 shared car platforms would address that problem.
There are different proposals for how to accomplish this. Because you’re absolutely right that if you can’t find adequate charging and dense urban areas places that have multi dwelling units (apartment buildings), EV’s become much less practical. The solutions will include forcing property developers to include electric charging on site, building electric charging into existing parking structures, such as a grocery stores, etc., and of course the most expensive option which is on-the-street electrification/charging stations.
Personally, I live in Washington DC, and we have a lot of underutilized parking. I could absolutely see shops, strip, malls, grocery stores, target, Best Buy, etc., all electrifying their parking facilities and charging an extra fee for the charging. if you are a landowner with available parking, it is an opportunity just waiting to happen!
@@Cleveland_Rocks this is the daily life in western Europe, you can charge mostly everywhere.
The eastern part is also getting better, so going on a road trip nowadays doesn't need a whole lot of planning as it did just a few years ago.
As a EV owner this is great news. EV's are crap
Probobly will be a lot better in a few years though ..
I share the same sentiment. I have a Hyundai EV, and I think it's still got about 5-10 years before the infrastructure catches up and the driving experience improve. Luckily I only lease my EVs. I still have my ICE cars.
I own a Tesla and have just ordered another . 3 years no service, no faults, original brakes and 57k miles at a cost of rough 67mpg over ownership . Driven to Austria Germany France and Amsterdam. No range issues never felt I was missing out. Plus it’s technically free due to salary sacrifice and almost 0 company car tax . I have my two classic Mercs for the weekend !
@@BEGGARWOOD1
Happy for ya. I'll stick to real cars though.
@BEGGARWOOD1 Anything more you want to tell us about?? Your massive salary, how much you can bench?? 😂😂😂
Mr. Toyoda knows what he wants and what he's doing
Yer, bankrupting his company
Extracting maximum volume and profit from legacy products while preparing for EVs where and when they are required
@@jsanders100 Cope.
@@karmanline2005 They are dragging their feet and wasting lots of money on hydrogen.
100% agree that cars should be taxed by weight. Its ROAD tax (VED is the tax you pay to use to use your car on the road for and pedantics out there)! Use it to fix the roads being crushed by these tanks
Range Rover first then? Are you gullible? You believe the lies about EVs that are spread by the oil industry lobby groups. I have a great investment for you ...
PS It is not road tax - you are 40 years out of date.
So trucks should be taxed more..?
HGVs??
@@derekr1113 If you are specifying that it should be called VED then yes it is. That tax is what you have to pay by every vehicle to use public roads. So road tax! 😀
I think I will invest in small, coal-burning steam engines for road use.
I’ve actually seen videos of those driving on UK roads. I don’t know if steam tractors were more common in the UK, or if they just weren’t used much in the mountainous eastern US where I live, because the farms are hilly and were smaller.
@@seed_drill7135 I've wondered about the comparative dearth of traction engines in North America, especially on the Prairies. I suspect that it's a matter of timing. In the UK, capital, coal supplies and engineering expertise were common in the 19th century, less so in N. America. By the time there was a market for big farm machines, internal combustion motors were well on the way to dominance.
The steam engine is only at most about 15% thermally efficient. There's a reason why everybody went away from it.
@@grasonicus We're talking about the scarcity of antique examples in the US vs. UK. Of course you had to have a huge farm to have afforded such equipment in late 19th and early 20th centuries. I do see steam engines, but they tend to be horse drawn and designed to power other things rather than self propelled.
@@seed_drill7135 We even had steam buses and trucks in the UK for a short while. If you ever make it to the UK you can take trips on a steam bus in Whitby North Yorkshire
Japanese have Kei cars - millions of them, fitting a massive need.
Here in Australia, the popular "car" is either a massive TwinCab truck, or an inefficient SUV. Kei cars were laughed at - but as city cars would be excellent. People cry "safety" - so drive lumbering 2½ tonne vehicles pretending they're sports cars.
Edit - back when I was learning to drive, Honda was selling the 3 metre, 500kg N360/600, later the Z. There was the Mini - just over 3m long, 600kg. Both those were common on the roads and owners loved them. Subaru & Daihatsu had popular tiny cars (& vans) too.
If I had to choose between a full EV and a Kei car, I’d take the Kei car mini van.
Don't forget that it's not just the cars that have become obese. So have people.
I love the idea of a kei car with a straight 6.
I'm in Australia, too. Aussies are nice people, but intelligent on average? The lower-educated classes have always loved big cars. It's been so since my childhood in the fifties thousands of kilometres away from here. Now ignorance is a holy cow; say anything against it and one is condemned. And huge, wasteful vehicles are a product of ignorance. Force what is right on the hoi-polloi, like they do in Singapore? Not likely.
Meanwhile we car enthusiasts, "We don't want to say we told you so but..."
Exactly!
"enthusiasts" aren't the ones crying about 15 minute cities though.
It is possible to like cars and also like EVs. Armchair scientists who think they know better about carbon emissions based on gut feeling really should not get a voice in this debate. It is a data driven debate, pure and simple, and that data always shows EVs are better over the long term.
Horse owners, then Steam Engine owners said the same, and where are they now?
@@rogerfroud300 Yes but the transition was a natural one, and not out of governmental push and fear mongering.
It truly is inevitable!
Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thanks for all the work you put in Jack.
Well worth it.
I’m with you there Jack 🎉
I work in the trade, some 44 yrs, the last 34 as breakdown and recovery……… we see a lot of EV anomalies first hand.
I think I’m known as a hater of battery EV’s which isn’t true…….. I advocate small, highly efficient, short range cars for home charging, commuting, shopping…….. delivering progeny for indoctrination about the myriad genders and the way we ruined the world with our fangled inventions…… sorry, I digress 😊
Big EV’s are a total nonsense…….. one scenario that makes me chuckle, big boss has his new Rolls Canardly……. I mean Spectre……… his driver will always ensure it’s topped up. In his old Phantom, if Jeeves really had to, he could back out of cruise and whoosh into the hell that is MOTO, splash and dash……… big boss may not even notice. However, queuing for an available charger, finding it doesn’t work, queuing for another, then having a 30 minute charge, realising that due to demand you’re only getting 7kw and you are looking at 4 hours for a meaningful charge……… big boss will melt down.
Ignoring the meteoric drop in value, the treatment akin to leprosy at a dealer if you try to get rid…… 🙁
Electric traction motors are wonderful……… hybrid, fuel cell etc is a future worth chasing.
Battery EV is an evolutionary dead end 😥
Last year I was paying 60 pense to park my electric van in London for four hours.Since January, that figure has gone up to 28 pounds! Having checked the council website, I was shocked to read their explanation for the price increase from 60 pence to 28 pounds. They say that significant levels of CO2 is being released during the production process of electrical vehicles.
Where in London is that? I find it difficult to believe.
@@dandare1001 yes it is unbelievable. The parking meters are located in Islington; Bawling Green Lane, to be exact.
'Significant levels of CO2 is being released during the production process of electrical vehicles.' In that case I would expect a petrol Citroen C1 (Very low manufacturing footprint) to be pennies to park? Thought not.
@@tolgarupture Bloody hell. That's disgraceful.
I usually park my car in the suburbs and take the tube or a bus, but sometimes that's inconvenient.
@@adogmcdizzle Councils and governments are totally confused, and are making knee-jerk reactions. It's what happens when we vote in incompetent people. Ultimately the voters' faults.
A win for the people. A reality check for the manufacturers. Don’t tell us what to drive. It’s our money and our choice. We tell you what to make.
Is that why there is only a handful of proper enthusiast cars on the market today?
@@kantina4765😂
We're telling them to make cheap, no frills EVs.
Said from day one that electric is not going to be the way forward! The damage and the carbon footprint for electric cars is higher when you take into account the batteries!
It just isn't. Do proper research
That's actually bollocks. Do the research.
@rogerfroud300 no you check your facts. From the mining of the lithium to replacement of the batteries and the fact that countries are still using fosill fules to make electricity 😳 watch 'the car guys' video on it and you will see the real cost of EVs
@@rogerfroud300 you seem to have done the research. I would like your sources please. Actual facts, not just an article of of assumptions. I am genuinely interested.
@@mattsansom644 I started with the car guys video
You make great points. One thing about electric cars that's had me scratching my head is the obsession with the 0 to 100 km/h aka 62 mph. Seems any longer than 5 seconds is bad and less than 3 is good. Ignored seems to be the fact that if one does this just a small number of times the range becomes close enough to useless.
Good point. With these big batteries in EVs then using lower power electric motors would help their kWhr/km (ie equivalent mpg)
I agree but it’s not new is it? It’s just that petrol heads can’t stand the fact ev,s are faster, smoother and soon to be cheaper as well.
Electric motor has peak torque (hence thrust) at 0 rpm, with a pretty much straight line to zero torque at peak rpm. Hence hard to get a high torque at high enough revs for high speed, and if managed it will likely have ludicrous torque when moving off.
@@jsanders100 Your comment tells me how little you understand petrolheads
@@adogmcdizzleI understand petrol heads perfectly because I used to be one, 3 Porsches, lotus, lancia, never owned an Alfa is that the problem?
That is exactly how I have been thinking about electric cars. I just love light cars, I have classic Minis, Lotus Elises, and for everyday transport we have 3 Audi A2 3L. in the family. I am doing about 50 miles a day in the summer at 87MPG. Current milage is 273000. My son has a very nice 2004 model milage is 430000. We have fitted aftermarket DPF filters, so that they can be used in low emission zones like Copenhagen. Alloy so no rust. I have looked a lot at the BMW I3, but the tyres are expensive, and the cost of buying. And those A2s just runs fine.
too bad all manufacturers didn't followed A2 logic, that was brilliant idea for the future of auto industry.
but marketing made people want to buy big SUV.
I'm glad you mentioned BMW. The current CEO got rid of the carbon manufacturing and killed off the i3 and i8 with no replacement.
I have an i8, an X5 45e Hybrid and the latest M4 CSL. I will always keep the i8 it is absolutely the best BMW ever built.
The current CEO doesn't understand driver involvement and has gone on record as stating that electric and batteries are powerful enough not to worry about weight. This shows he has no idea about driver engagement or the fact the impact and damage heavy cars have to the environment. I want guilt freeish driving and the i8 and i3 did just that.
No current BMW comes close in fact the i4 M has been slated as poor in all press tests.
Plus, they're now throwing tasteful aesthetics out of the window and pandering to their Chinese buyers (who probably know nothing about feel and driver engagement too, dare I say).
I’ve just bought a Mercedes diesel that does 68mpg, happy as fook thank you very much. EV’s are NOT the future.
Being a man old enough to buy a new mercedes proves that you are not part of the future. You will log off before the real future arrives. 😂
@@HansOleBenonisen The EV future is you never owning a car and living in a pod and eating bugs.
Lets be honest, this was inevitable right from the start. Everyone, governments included, jumped on the bandwagon without putting any thought whatsoever into the practicalities of full electrification. It's been years since their policies were made, yet most places still have almost no infrastructure for EVs at all, and no ideas on how people without a garage or driveway are supposed to maintain one. I'll never understand why government ministers are so incapable of seeing what is so blatantly obvious to the rest of us. We'll get there one day because we have to, but the timeframe they originally set was always completely unrealistic and ultimately impossible.
The EV bandwagon jumping was just a new version of the diesel push from the early 2000s onward.
" I'll never understand why government ministers are so incapable of seeing what is so blatantly obvious to the rest of us."
I suggest you watch some congressional testimony by the leaders of the Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, NTSB and so on on the subject of electrification. Also some of the witnesses, like Hollywood actors telling everyone why the nation needs to transition to electric vehicles. You'll all too quickly understand why they are incapable.
@@skylined5534 No, the EV bandwagon is the only way forward. Diesel had no real chance to impact climate change. Was anyone surprised that Diesel turned out to be less than stellar polluters?
@@Cleveland_Rocks Impossible future, electric is unrealistic.
@@ghoulbuster1 Really, Walter? And praytell how are the 40 million electric vehicles in Asia doing these days? suffering? sad? lonely?
We all knew that 2030 was far too soon and now even 2035 is too soon.
Be sure to not purchase any ocean front property, you may not own it for very long.
It’s odd how almost every bollocks, non-fact is preceded by, “We all knew.”
In fact, every time anyone ever reads, “We all knew,” it should be taken to read, “The following statement is clearly shite, but I intend to argue it to be factual with the vehemence that only ignorance can maintain.”
@@kellypaws Yeah yeah, very good. Bollocks and shite in the same sentence. How refined and intellectual you are. 😁
@@worldofrandometry6912 Are you going to tell me that we also “all knew that”?
By the way, the two words in question are not in fact in the same sentence.
@@kellypaws Funny that the governments seemed to agree that 2030 was too soon. If you want to be pedantic, how about 'many of us knew'. Does that work for you?
I've been longing for this development for over a decade... even discussed it with researchers who already over 10 years ago realized the necessity of diverse propulsion technology. Good to hear! Thanks 👍
Fuck me! is the rest of the world finally seeing this now? No-one needed a car with lunatic speed and/or a 4 ton Hummer. Nor did it need a completely new fuel system, motor, car to carry these things and charging stations to keep them all going. And what are the power stations generating all this demand running on? wind? I think not.
What it needed was all those resources pushed into a synthetic fuel that existing cars could run on and new engines could benefit from. Chuck an electric engine in there too if you want but EV's are and were not the be all and end all imho. Shame it's taken right up to now to see that.
Love the Tamiya Rough Rider(?) in the background. Circa 1979 iirc...
Synthetic yes, e-fuels no. You need a ridicules amount of electricity to make e-fuels. And - as you pointed out - where does the electricity come from? Wind? Probably not.
Harry Metcalf is using synthetic fuel from biomass in his cars. It comes at a very affordable 4.75 pounds a litre.
@@VolkerHett exactly this. Imagine £ per litre if there was more R&R behind it...
@@paulelverstone8677 You can't break the laws of thermodynamics :D We can just hope fusion fulfills the nuclear dream of energy too cheap to meter.
Synthetic fuels from plants need farmland to grow which is not unlimited and at least I like to eat something.
Think the RC is an RC10 worlds edition re release although Jack does have a buggy champ (rough rider re release) and a superchamp re release.
@@VolkerHett the synthetic fuel sounds interesting, if it really does cut back on emissions and other pollutants for that cost per litre.
But would the likes of Shell etc al actually allow it to prosper?
Finally.. someone with a brain talking about electric cars.
Never accepted ev as the future, hopefully the manufacturers will no longer be driven by the eco warriors and this will enable the successful continuation and development of our heritage in motoring.
Very likely eco warriors who have never learned to drive, too. God help them if they have to do something an Uber can't manage.
ev without battery (so, directly driven from ground etc) would be perfect answer. they could power trucks etc this way already..
-- Jack, you are sooooo correct about the weight issue. A few examples: My first new vehicle was a 1978 Golf/Rabbit Mk 1, 1.5L, leaded fuel, 71hp, 53kw, 4-sp manual, 1750 to 2150 lbs. Very high mileage - 40 or so mpg to the best of my recollection. Sat 4 comfortably. My current vehicle, with more weight and safety features, but much better technology, is a 2020 Kia Forte/Cerato/K3, 3rd gen. 2.0L Nu engine, 147hp, approx 2900 lbs, 40mpg on the highway, 35 combined. Seats 4 comfortably. Large trunk for lots of stuff. Notice a trend here? Both of these cars are substantially more efficient on a life-cycle basis than any mid- or large-size EV.
-- I parked my silver Kia next to a stainless Cybertruck the other day and took a photo-it looked like mama bear and a newborn cub. The cybertruck looked stupid-much more stupid than any mama bear could be.
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We've all (especially Americans) have become spoiled. If all of us drove right-sized vehicles, we wouldn't have government EV mandates, methinks.
You are either lying of just don't no what you are talking about. Let me step that back. Didn't mean to come out like that. Both our governments feed us all propaganda about the other country. About the only thing that has been really accurate is that they weigh more. Thay are. roughly 22 kg that's about 2800 lbs. The tiers don't break down fast. Because. The use a harder rubber to take the extra kg / lbs. They're in the same weight class as the american pickup truck. They don't have bigger brakes on them. And the electric motoassist with the breaking.
And it has power regeneration.The motors turn into generators when they're coasting Breaking breaking. You can get.
Roughly 15%. Electrical charge back into your battery between charging cycles from breaking, it is called regenerative breaking. Like tesla y Is the number one car sold worldwide?And it is also the safest car worldwide. Gas to Electric equivalent. Is 100 miles per gallon. Depending on the car And battery pack option you have. You can charge it while you're sleeping.Takes roughly 4 hours to charge.And that's about three hundred and eighty miles for the long range battery I believe. Volkswagen, it takes about 4 or 5 hours to charge at home overnight.They based that off of a battery at ten percent life charging to eighty percent. They don't recommend driving it or charging it to a hundred percent everyday. It's about $6 to charge up at home. Maybe my buddy travel all over America. Is American gas powered pick Up. We live up by lake superior. To port arthur texas working To rebuild the maintain the oil refineries up and down the coast. 38 hour drive straight down there. We spent more on gas just to get to the job from here. Cost was about $1600 just to drive there. My sister Has a tesla. She hasn't spent $1600 in 3 years.On charging.
Agree with all of that. Spot on as ever Jack. We need good, efficient, lightweight SMALL cars!!
EVs are fine for local transport and tbh make more sense, but as I always say ‘one size doesn’t fit all!’ Talking of size, I think you’re spot on with the fact that we have a load of overweight and overpriced heffalumps on the road today. It’s not just BEVs though, but generally with the SUV obsession! The public need to vote with their feet though, otherwise nothing will change!
The choices for small EVs in the USA is very poor. So we wait.
Hallelujah Jack! It's about time the whole EV thing was hashed-out. See my CNG LR soon.
I am a fan of inline motors. Inline 4 cylinder motors from 2L, all the way up to 3L and inline 6 cylinder motors from 3L all the way up to 4 Litres. 3 litre 6 cylinder motors have been able to produce 255 horsepower and 225 pounds feet of torque and return mid twenties in terms of miles per gallon without turbos or electric motors for over a decade. Granted, not everyone is going to be impressed by 0-60 mph in six seconds flat with 30 mpg highway, but that's progress.
This is why I have felt that focus have been on BEVs for far too long: you could do much more with hybrids that still are compatible with the current infrastructure while focusing on much cleaner energy in other industries with a greater effect overall (no coal or fossil fuel power plants, reduction of emissions in the shipping industry, payments to governments like Brazil to end deforestation). Going to a fully electric individual transport model should be done AFTER all the things I just said, not before...
Why not concurrent? Hybrids are the worst of both worlds. Get rid of the engine, and you reduce maintenance drastically, plus get rid of the transmission.
Been a petrol head my whole life, got my first EV three months ago and would never go back to ICE. It’s more comfortable, more refined, easier to drive and has better performance than any ICE car I’ve owned. Just taken it down to Cornwall on holiday, no issue with range as charging is a doddle but most of my charging is done at home where it cost me less than a fiver to fill up 🙂.
Ring gear came off on my ICE, chewed up clutch and starter, the car was write off. These ICE heads must be smoking something.
@@drttgb4955 my dad’s Ford Ecoboost chewed itself to bits on the motorway when the wet belt failed. Full service history but just out of warranty. It’s a known issue with that engine with hundreds of similar stories. Ford didn’t want to know so the car was written off. My MGF blew the head gasket, again due to a known design fault. At least the MG garage gave me some compensation for that one.
My EX 30 has an 8 year warranty on the battery and only needs servicing every 2 years.
@@scottmackintosh7633the real fault appears to be your choice of cars.
@@drttgb4955buy a decent car next time.
Give the guy your time to listen. He makes the great point that greed for profit has wrecked the electric car dream. Instead of small combustion engine cars carrying 1 - 4 people and weighing less than 750kg, manufacturers are building huge electric cars carrying the same number of people but weighing twice to three times as much. This never made any sense. Would be great for everyone and for the environment to see the return of cars like the Citroen 2CV, the Kijang Toyota, the original FIAT Panda and and the still-born FIAT ECO-Basic.
Spot on! I can understand why the first EVs are large expensive prestige vehicles because that is where the profit lies, and there was no government encouragement to produce small EVs for short commutes, local and city use, where the benefits of low carbon output is most effective. Taxing a car's weight is a good way of raising the revenue to maintain our infrastructure, but a car's efficiency (Kw/mile?) is also important to reduce the impact on the environment, because of how and where the electricity is generated.
TBH, all this sounds like an attempt to head off all those ultra-cheap EV's coming out of China which, without trade barriers, will flatten most of the companies named here.
That is probably part of it.
Thing is, what garage is going to be able to service/fix these Chinese cars ?
Or even if data/information is available on them to do this ?
I just see them as short-term cars destined for scrapyard in a very short time.....
You only have to see videos of scrapyards in China chock-a-block full of bicycles from their last experiment.
@@michaelbarton4787 I don't think repairing these cars will be a big problem. I assume if a manufacturer sells a vehicle, it's under the condition that they have to provide after-sales services, ie spares and repairs.
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Have to isn't the same as will do.
@@skylined5534 Do you think anyone would buy a new car that couldn't be serviced?
Most people can't even change their oil or brakes. Servicing is high on the list when buying a new car, I'm guessing.
I wouldn't worry about it, unless you are buying one, then check first.
A lot of good news to unpack there Jack.
BEV's have gotten off on the wrong foot because of the Govt mandates. We can clean up our cities and environs by having small electric vehicles that have low initial purchase cost and simple, efficient uncomplicated design.
Nobody needs a BEV that goes 0-100 in 2 seconds, not really. We just need to be able to get around our cities without having to walk everywhere.
Anyone interested in all the controversies surrounding decabonization needs to see this video. Excellent presentation. So many commonsense obsevations. Well done Jack!
Even in the 80's small cars (super mini's) were in the 700-800kg bracket, 90's class leaders were 800-900kg. With all the crash resistance built in, and all of the aids and comforts this is now more like 1100-1200kg.
If you look at the bigger cars, like a Mondeo or similar they are so big they don't even fit in a parking bay, and some are also over weight.
A parking bay is 2.4 X 4.8m, and a lot of car parks are designed to a limited load (1500kg is shown on some signs, 1600kg others) that is exceeded by some of these models.
There was also a part of the highway code that meant you had to leave your lights on overnight with some of these vehicles. I think they might have removed the clause though along with a lot of the other things that people ignored. I'm surprised they still have speed limits in there.
But I would like to thank all of the hard-working auto manufacturers and civil servants who have contributed to making our parking infrastructure too small for their cars... well done 👏
Nice one, Jack! I couldn't agree more! Right now, here in Alberta, Canada (the Texas of the North) I keep seeing little Kei trucks and cars on our roads. These have some real advantages here for small businesses and deliveries, they use very little petrol as compared to regular North American Trucks, and for our Winters they have 4wd (some even with Diff Locks). I have even seen Hunters and Sportspeople purchasing them and then adding off-road ATV Tires to these Kei Trucks and then use them as Side x Side Off-Road machines. There are so many new small trucks from Ford's Maverick to a host of new Japanese, Chinese and European small trucks. So if we, the largest consumers of Pick-Up Trucks are taking a hard look at these smaller options, then why aren't manufacturers offering small efficient little cars from EV's like the Nobe's pretty little 3wd car and All wheel drive small trucks to Kei inspired cars and sporty cars for other than the JDM. The internal combustion engine will likely never really go away, it is too much linked to us and our future. Can't wait to see what comes next! Take care - Dave
Agree with everything you said. Noone is going to convince me that an electric car weighing 2.5 tons is greener than a Golf Tdi.
The fuels they are talking about using are approx. 10 times the price of petrol. Bet everyone cannot wait top pay £100 per gallon.
Just goes to show the lengths the majority will go too to avoid buying an ev!
Approximately? Sources?
@@skylined5534Porsche recently did a presentation on it you’ll have to find it yourself but they don’t deny that cost.
Source: Lit crack pipe
I was fully expecting to dislike your comments but came away having learned a lot and rethinking some of my positions - thanks!
Also - I totally understand that Germany has become known for larger more luxurious cars don’t forget that they were responsible for some of the lightest and most beautifully efficient designs of all times, the VW Beetle and Porsche 356/911. Also, BMW produced the German versions of the Austin 7 and the Isetta, two of history’s most successful minimalist designs.
The new Renault 5ev is a step in the right direction for EV cheap light and efficient. 👌
Brilliant, I honestly think you are providing the most intelligent motoring material on TH-cam
Was always going to happen.. full EV was always a dead end!
I've been telling people this for years!
We bought a used 2014 Nissan Leaf seven years ago, even here in the states we ended up using it for more than 90 percent of our car usage despite having only 75 miles of range since most trips are fairly close to home. We just upgraded to a used 2021 with 230 miles of range and we still get four miles per KWH out of it and use our 2001 RAV4 (with a manual transmission) less and less. We need to stop thinking in terms of all in one solutions - combinations of technologies like low rolling resistance tires, low friction engine and drivetrain components, engines able to use the higher octane of ethanol to their advantage with higher compression ratios and turbos allowing smaller engines for the same output. There isn't going to be just one solution.
At last. I’ve been saying all this for a couple of years. Thank god the manufacturers are finally realising. Great video. Really interesting. ❤
The problem with EV is that there is no cash cow to milk and bring in cash after sale. Wear and tear is heavily reduced but the battery replacement costs will make up for this. Also ICE does more damage than just emissions. It uses a lot of bad solvents and the replacement of all the fluids is very damaging to the environment.
That’s before you even talk about getting it out of the ground, refining, transporting etc
I am not so worried about the battery. I know there have been accidents resulting in the need for a battery replacement, but hey - there are also accidents resulting in the need for an engine and gearbox replacement. Try buy a new, modern ICE engine for a nickel...😅
Batteries produced after 2018 seem to last longer than most cars are on the road. There are many examples of taxis who have been driven more than 400K kilometres which still works perfectly fine.
I myself use an 2016/17 Ioniq first edition as a commuter and it is now passing 200K and still have more or less the same range as new. 😉👍
"...replacement of all the fluids..." - used engine oil is recycled into other products; EVs use coolant too.
Absolutely right about the weight issue. nobody's talking about the elephant in the room? about the damage to the roads these heavier evs are causing. lets use the road tax from the petrol/ diesel drivers to pay for it? the sooner you get governments out of the equation the sooner a solution will emerge.
These new compact engines do sound like an exciting prospect In many ways. Reliability and durability will be crucial.
Look at the new Citroen eC3. Sub £20k....180 mile range...
Also the batteries can be refused and recycled, try that with fossil fuels
Drops 50 miles when you put heating or air-conditioning on 😂
I'll stick with my 2018 EA888 engined 300bhp VAG petrol hot hatch that has a 365 mile range and takes 2 minutes to fill up, and is LOADS OF FUN to drive.
The inevitable transition away from combustion to electric motive power will have bumps along the way but the superiority of an electric drivetrain is so obvious to anyone who drives and owns an EV. No more messing about with oily bits and having to handle dirty, smelly pumps. The car charges while you are sleeping or doing something else and after 5 years and over 100,000 km with one I am never going back to 'suck-squeeze-bang-blow'. I drove a friends petrol car recently and it was like someone from a bygone age, so clunky and the cost of fuelling it!
Technology at the beggining got us to where we are now. It would be reasonable to think that it will create realistic solutions for the future
Electric cars have their place, the old couple just tootling around to the shops, inner city cabs etc. I think the best solution is the engine with a hybrid motor. Most people work within 10-15 miles of their home so a hybrid car with a battery distance of 40-50miles works perfect, just charge it when you get home everyday. Then when you have to visit people or that long drive to go on holiday you have the patrol. My friend has a Outlander, tells me he hardly ever uses the petrol engine but its there for his longer journeys, he loves it. Made me smile recently seeing the Tesla owners have to queue for the chargers at the motorway services 🤣 I wouldn't touch a fully electric car if it was given to me.
What & where the focus should be is on making fuel efficient engines that can achieve well over 100 mpg (petrol). There are ways currently that reach well over that but the industry came down on them like a ton of bricks & had them banned. TOP GEAR proved that it is fumes that the engine runs on not the wet fuel, when James May inadvertently drove well over 100 miles with his car showing an empty tank (needle off the gauge not just on "E"). Subaru estate in Dover indicated he had 70 miles of fuel left and had to reach Blackpool without a refill. (It was an economy race with Hammond & Clarkson from some where in Europe. )
The way forward is DIESEL and always has been. Diesel powered cars with an effective DPF installation have the smallest carbon footprint if fuelled by bio-diesel. What other fuel can be grown in a field refined on a small scale, delivered locally all at minimal cost both financially and to the environment. The move to EVs is a total disgrace in every regard. The Chinese and Indian manufacturers must be laughing themselves wet as they burn off millions of tonnes of fossil fuel (coal) and plunder rare earth minerals whilst producing vehicles that are bizarrely being touted as our route to carbon neutrality
What if I told you, if you type plant more 🌳 the word, your comment is removed
Diesel is rubbish, full of faults cost an arm and a leg to maintain.
It's a good example of how governments absolutely known nothing and always choose for the wrong options, whispered in by the first so-called experts . I totally agree with Jack . If manufacturers put their heads together , they come up with something far more better than lobbying politicians , who have alterior motivs. Car manufacturers have always been a plaything for governments and emissions regulations, not that that was always a bad thing because it forced them to be inventive. Same here
I don't see the point. Develop small EVs, not cling to the past must be the motto. Even if there is still some potential in combustine engines, there is so much more in the EV space since the develepoment there only really started maybe 10, 15 years ago. It's not like combustine engines are bad today, rather the opposite I would say, at least in terms of efficiency, but the problem remains that they burn fossil fuel and that will never change. Unless you are talking about e fuels, but that is also not much more than a pipe dream at the moment and will probably not be at a reasonable price point any time soon, if ever.
The point is that this way we are getting much closer to the efficiency of electric, with lower manufacturing costs and emissions so the overall won’t be much different. I agree there is a place for full electric but also think we need to keep combustion propulsion as an additional option.. At least till the infrastructure is fully in place to support electric and in the meantime ALL cars have to move towards being efficient and light. Current direction is madness
The first electric car was made in 1915 the Detroit Electric Model 61 Brougham. There are more reasons to why EVs always fail I don't know what those reasons are, but they are there.
The current direction isn't madeness. Keeping everything around although it is just no longer needed comes closer to madness I would say. There are certainly some cases where an EV will have difficulty replacing a combustion engine, but those are fringe cases. In reality 90% or more of driving is to work and maybe to get groceries and that's where EVs shine. And for longer trips batteries and infrastructure will only get better, so that argument isn't that strong either, at least in the long run.
Also of course every is forced by policy makers now, but that's mainly because the manufacturers lobbied to change nothing as long as they possibly could. The GM EV1 was a functioning EV in the 90s, if developement went on from there we would be so much further, but the insistence on combustion engines made that impossible. It's sad, really.
@@uselessDM you can't change the laws of the universe. The reason battery technology is so crappy is because of the physics of our world. We have reached the apex of battery tech ages ago.
I don't think this is the right direction. The efficieny of combustion engines will not get much better than it is at the moment. And most people also don't drive them in an efficent way, so that they're using way more than they should. With plug-in hybrids it's even worse as they are mostly sold because of tax savings and then only used on gas. And ICE cars also get heavier and bigger all the time, that's not only an EV thing. People just don't care about size and weight of cars...
And with announcements like that, investments in charging infrastructure will just slow down even more and it will take longer to be adaquate.
New cars with combustion engines which are fun to drive will still get rarer and more expensive, so petrolheads are also not gonna profit in my opinion.
I can hear a Swiss engine development firm saying: we've been trying to tell you since the start of the original Smart........'way over 30 years ago.....
Hydrogen as a fuel is just stupid
Why? If the idea was given the proper investment both by manufacturer and refueling infrastructure it would work.
@@mikeroz6549 The losses on efficiency are enormous.
We have a natural gas network, that will become redundant when no natural gas is produced in the next 20ish years. It would make sense to reuse that for hydrogen. We need some form of energy storage for renewables. This is a lot better way to store energy than current battery technology.
time for enlightenment
It's been done by BMW decades ago on there V 8,seven series and running an fleet of them for thousands of kms
That was useful to know. Thanks, Jack.
A re-heat of a speculative piece in Pistonheads, with less than accurate quotes re Geely and Renault, is not 'knowing'.
Jack - love your car reviews, but honestly speaking am personally certain that because oil will undoubtedly run out, and so believing that the fossil powered cars have a future is a dream. The inherent proposition of an EV is that they are 80pct efficient and grids are rapidly decarbonising, so that they are simply a better answer. As time goes by batteries will get lighter, and infrastructure will improve so that you don't need a massive battery.
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Hey John.. I’m proposing it as an additional source. Current push towards all electric is too rushed and going in the wrong direction. Also these engines are designed to run on all sorts of fuels including hydrogen.
The powertrains they are talking about are nearly all going to be Hybrid Electric units where small ICE units run a generator to extend the range of a battery that powers the electric motor drive system. This has been seen by many as the system that will allow some of the benefits from each power delivery system and fewer disadvantages than either system on their own. The Hybrid systems will be PHEV units so the battery can be charged at home or at a public charger or by the on board ICE unit but the later is meant more as a range extender than a stand alone charger as it would be very slow for that sole purpose. Using the electric motor drive as the propulsion unit means that a transmission is not needed thus adding to the compact nature of the system. As the ICE unit is not driving the vehicle it also will be compact. Toyota, Subaru, and Mazda will work on a system to be shared by the three and it does not mean that they are all working on separate ICE units. The rotary is being looked at because of its very small size and weight due to fewer moving parts and it is easier to adapt it to run on Hydrogen. Japan is still very keen to develop RED Hydrogen production capability using its Nuclear power generating capacity and it sees the hybrid power unit and future fuel cell advancements and being the two main power sources for personal transport and if powered by Red Hydrogen they would be almost void of greenhouse gas emissions.
The ICE Fan Club which is hopping for the wonder engine like the Führer for the Wunderwaffe…
We know what has happened…
Hey Jack…
Great news regarding ICE
Frankly there is no reason why an average 2 litre ICE cannot return at least 200mpg with virtually zero emissions
This has been done several times throughout history but of course was “buried” by the oil companies
It can be achieved easily with right fuelling utilising petrol vapour rather than liquid
Controversial stuff, which is why it is generally little known
Hopefully over the next few years with these new developments, we may see this type of fuelling introduced 👍
100% agree re the size of cars now, its ridiculous. Roads that we used to happily bomb down in our Triumph Dolomites and VW Beetles now have to stop and wait for the huge SUV that cant make it opp direction otherwise. Totally agree about RFL prices based on weight, its a FANTASTIC idea 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Well said. The laws of physics have not changed. 2 tonnes personal mobility is dumber and dumber.
I’ve been following this with interest for all the same reasons you have mentioned. This whole EV thing was a knee jerk reaction to a very real problem, but with just our economies in mind and not the option of pursuing properly developed technology or joined-up thinking across the number of alternative fuels available and in development. This is now an exciting opportunity to make a real difference and still deal with the effect that personal vehicle transport has on a global problem. We also need to look elsewhere and stop blindly blaming transportation for the climate problem, but this is a significant step with intelligent thinking. Finally we could be seeing a new dawn in vehicle technology.
By the way Jack, totally agree about the i3 and i5, a brave bold step by BMW, largely ignored for no good reason!
Bring back the A series BMC motor. The best motor ever. Fast, torque, strong and efficient.
Nice work mr 27 about time someone thought about mr chapmans ideas, cars should be light
HOORAY!
the great achilles heel of EVs is the battery. its weight, charging/discharging inefficiencies, spontaneous combustibility, complete lack of supportive charging infrastructure, commercial charging costs, the incredibly environmentally damaging production of its Lithium, life expectancy, cost and so on.
a fully integrated multi-fuel hybrid powertrain makes perfect sense. it is far more efficient, convenient, lighter and has the ability to adapt to different fuel and power availability. with the right sized battery cars could run around cities in pure or near pure EV mode.
I'm a huge fan of the i3 with range extender. it should have been the blue-print before the children took over and the politicians panicked.
Does make logical sense to ‘transition’ into greener future. How these manufacturers have been allowed to produce all these ‘tank-mobiles’ is the reality of how serious they all are when profits at risk. Very informative Number 27. Please carry on.
Govts did not force people to adopt ICE when horses where an environmental nightmare, but the horse went once ICE was viable.
Govts forcing the issue prematurely is the root here, plus bowing to German industry as per EU norms (see CFLs)
A concise and excellent summary of the misguided mess that the motor industry is in.
Yes, governments are once again, largely to blame. The withdrawal of govt subsidies in 2024 was the first nail in the EV coffin, followed by the amazingly low prices of BYD & Xiaomi EV's. Undoubtably the biggest threat to the western motor industry ever.
My solution is simple (but too late):-
Batteries should be standardised and "dropped out" of vehicles at "exchange stations" this followed by replacing with a charged battery, the process to take no more than one minute.
Voila...
No more recharging issues in high density populated area's.
The car is cheaper (no need for charge cables, home chargers etc.
Recharging is done overnight at "exchange station", no overloading of the grid.
Batteries are modular, small car one battery, SUV etc, 2 or three.
Batteries are certified to proper standards, less EV inferno's.
Govt's to put engineers to work improving said batteries over time instead of screwing things up with subsidies & industry quota's etc.
Car's do not de-value so quickly due to battery health fears.
Alas, it's too late to apply simple and compelling logic as above.
So now the hybrid is the future? Not perfect, but better than the present ostentatious, overweight, investment disasters EV's have become.
In another way, an opportunity lost.
Consider that a EV motor can exceed 90% efficiency, but an IC engine is doing very well to exceed 35% efficiency.
Furthermore, if EV's were designed by engineers focused on aggressive weight targets, (instead of corporate profits) they could increase the above mentioned efficiency advantage by the inverse of Jack's "bigger battery, bigger brakes........" statement.
A big factor in this that EV's can get by on much simpler transmissions, sometimes even no transmission. What's not there doesn't weigh anything!
In the future EV regenerative braking could entirely replace friction brakes and the expensive maintenance that comes with them.
So I feel the motor industry has spent the last 10 years in a oppressed and completely misguided daydream.
How the mighty fall, driven by idiotic government policies, unrealistic emissions & EV implementation targets, coupled with their own greed.
Thanks for bringing this up!
I love my fully electric BMW I3, thats now ten years old, and know it may have some malfunction that makes it worthless at any time, but so far it has been my cheapest transportation ever for the three years I have had it. At the same time, this car is useless for long distance. I usually only travel long by car during summer, and petrol cars are both more fun and more practical, in the sense that you actually get to the destination without spending time at charging spots. I'm looking forward to travel trough Europe in my little Fiat Barchetta soon, and the Maserati GranTurismo S i always a blast. The milage may be expensive, but you get there. The emissions, seen from a bureaucrat, may be very high, but the total usage is so little in total so it doesn't matter. For me this news are great, I cat get petrol for my cars also in the future. Who cares about diesel?
Italy has had a fantastic infrastructure for LPG and Methane vehicles for over 50years that i know of.
There are almost as many Gas (that's real Gas not petrol) stations as Petrol, and absolutely everywhere, even in remote villages..... unlike the UK.
the one time the invisible hand has done its thing. hope to see more of it
Jack, IMO, as people bought EVs they realized a few things. 1. Long charge times are impactful on a daily basis. 2. Most electricity is still not carbon-neutral. 3. Stated ranges are often a fantasy. 4. Here in the States the charging infrastructure is woefully inadequate.
Friend of mine had BMW I4 EV. Loved driving it until it came time to recharge. The final straw was a 3 hour trip that turned into a 6 hour range anxiety-filled search for juice. (And he was in the high population Chicago - Milwaukee corridor.) He's back to an ICE Bimmer.
I have an MG5 with a 1.5 petrol engine and LPG. It is 1 year old now with 40,000 klm. I go on long road trips and it is so cheap to run. The car cost me the equivalent of £9,500 on the road. It is a joy to drive, with car play etc, a/c and all comforts of a car twice the price. The 1.5 SAIC engine is used in many cars, so parts are ultra cheap. Servicing is very, very cheap.
My next car is a Jetour T2. Chinese cars are now way ahead of the old gang.
Thise of us in the industry know the truth, and youve nailed it again. Cars should become lighter, more efficient etc. is there a place for electric cars? Yes. Rather like an electric blower for your garden. Its a suppliment not a replacement
If you’re in the industry, tell us about EV development in China?
I saw this coming, years ago.
Love the vintage RC10!
Im glad to hear this because I intend to drive my V10 BMW M5 until the traffic police prise the steering wheel out of my cold dead hands.
Keen to hear more on this….
Also, Nice RC10 👍🏻👍🏻 I’ve got mine in the garage.
And the two stroke should definitely be followed up on, half the CC with similar power but way much more torque at half the rpm.
"Reduced capacity will mean a lower bonnet" Not so much unless they tilt them over.
A steam engine is a combustion engine.
Why do some people say _Combustion Engine_ when they clearly mean _Internal_ Combustion Engine? The _Internal_ was placed there for a reason.
I love my old petrol cars as classics. But the future is electric, no doubt. Not only can ICE cars not beat the efficiency of EVs, EVs are also fun to drive due to low cog & instant power, offer more driver and passenger comfort and give you a feel to be with the times. My daily driver is an EV and I do a lot of longer distance travelling as well as city commute. It works, its like a reliable kitchen appliance. No headaches. Doesnt raise the heart beat, but performs faultlessly. Again, I hope we can always hang on to nostalgia, keeping our classics on the road for weekend drives and meet ups. As for new and future cars, no thanks.
The biggest Blocker to the electric battery is Big Oil, that is why the battery has been a surpressed technology since the advent of internal combustion engines.
We went from telegraph 1844 to first modern computer 1944, Wright Brothers 1913 to the moon 1969, first modern car 1886 to the Ferrari 1940, yet the battery had not changed until they needed a new one for the cell phones and computers. It is a scientific impossibility for the battery to have not developed since 1881, but batteries were found int Baghdad from thousands of years ago.
If 'They' were interested in saving the planet, then why not burn alcohol, it does not pollute, can be made from refuges and will burn in the car setting in your driveway, so will hydrogen and it can be created inside the intake manifold as you drive your pollution free car.
Full agree. Reasonable solutions arise from shortage and suffering,
decadent, "fat" products are the result of plenty of resources and rich customers.
Currently, customers became short of money.
Plug-in hybrids seem to be the best way to go today.
If EV market was first flooded with small under 15k cars, people would have bought as a second car, for wife, granny, etc. Not £120k Porsches.
Pushing as a global warming tool was nonsense. Low level pollution in town centres should have been the push, certainly in UK..
future internal combustion engines will be developed solely for electrical generation in hybrids. Narrow rpm range with completely closed loop emission controls. Very clean.