I was driving through Wyoming but not in a park and I turned a corner and there was a Moose in the middle of the road. I managed to stop about 6 inches from her. We made eye contact and it was beautiful. All of a sudden, two little babies came out of the woods and they all crossed the road. That memory is precious to me!
Thank you for sharing all of this...and the people pleasing reflection really hit home...as well as trying to be positive just for the sake thereof...you guys rock and roll...all my very best and thank you! ❤❤❤
Hey Sharleen. I’ve watched at least 10 seasons of the Bachelor/Bachelorette but my GF and I decided to finally watch your season. I’ve always been a fan but that just grew tenfold. I stood and clapped after you received the first impression rose when you said what mattered was if you felt a connection. Bravo. You were a queen amongst the cast who never compromised in your beliefs for the camera or the excitement. I’m so happy you found Andy and he’s even luckier to have found someone like you. I wish the two of you nothing but the best.
Sharleen, I am right there with you on your favorite moment of self insight. You put into words so beautifully something that I've been realizing about myself this year too. So relatable, as always! Thank you for sharing your 2023 with all of us Shandies! Happy Holidays! ❤
Thank you for selecting my question about how you’ve changed and become a better person! I’m glad to hear the boundaries around people pleasing has improved, way to go Sharleen!
Also, I think humans pay for paintings for a couple of reasons: 1) it's a way to move money across borders easily 2) the investment 3) as a way to display their wealth on their walls. And, love of art of course.
As a fellow worrier who is always battling negative thinking and catastrophizing, I want to share this quote: "If you get caught up in the worst case scenario and it doesn't happen, you've wasted your time. And if you are caught up in the worst case scenario and it does happen, you've lived it twice." I heard Michael J. Fox say this in an interview on CNN in the doctor's office waiting room 10 - 15 years ago, and the idea that if I assume the worst I will have lived through it twice really stuck with me.
I’m visiting my boyfriend’s family in Seattle for Christmas. I listened to your podcast today and heard your rec for Paju. We had a huge change of plans this evening and happened to be walking by Paju when looking for a restaurant… they could take us right away and it was DELISH! Thanks for such an amazing rec! We told them we found them through your podcast and they were excited 😊
We need an organization/closet styling tips video from Sharleen on how you store your fabulous wardrobe in a small space/apartment to help the rest of us! 🤩 I feel like even with multiple closets, my closet game is subpar.
I would think Andy's favorite beauty find of 2023 would be his barber in Seattle. Great selection of questions and Sharleen, you have given us a superb fashion show this year. Thank you for sharing about the negative thinking. I tend to over worry about things too. But I did think it was helping the outcome. I'll have to think about that one. Also, really appreciate the Blue Christmas Duet at the end. A very beautiful and happy holiday season to you both!
I really enjoyed the format of this episode. I've been watching segments throughout the day today. The Blue Christmas song was great! Have a wonderful holiday season! 😊
I don't know why the blue Christmas song made me cry 😂😂. I love you two so much. Thank you for entertaining us and keeping us company while we drive, work, clean etc. I hope you have the best holiday!!!
So true, can you imagine how her auto insurance would increase after he had an accident in her car; her current company would drop her and another policy with a new insurer would double or triple her cost.The stress on their budget would likely break them up, so hold your ground!!
This year my christmas song is Blue Christmas (grieving the recent loss of my beloved pet). The song at the end absolutely made my day, my holiday season. Thank you Sharleen and Andy
What a fantastic episode; you two never fail to make me smile & giggle❣️Thanks for a fantastic fun-filled Shandy 2023. Wishing you both blessed holidays 😇Can’t wait for Shanty 2024 ⭐️ 🗽
Thank you for another spectacular year of heartwarming, funny, thoughtful, ~stylish~, melodic 🎶, and downright good-for-the-soul Dear Shandy!!! We only see a fraction of all the hard work and care that you pour into your show (😇), but please know it doesn’t go unrecognized! Happy holidays from all of the Shandies and wishing you both a wonderful 2024 ahead ❤🎉
The dead hooker comment from Andy almost had me on the floor, I was laughing so hard 😂. I'm a senior citizen who has a very long dating, cohabitating, and married life history, and no man has ever mentioned needing his own locked room. I was even engaged to an artist I lived with for years. He did his art in the living room floor, the dining room table, a spare bedroom. I just don't think that's it Andy, but I could be wrong. I do think you hit the nail on the head when you said maybe he didn't have his own space growing up. We are a product of our parents and, subsequently, childhood. She needs to know exactly why and it better be a fantastic answer. Great end of the year episode. It was very enlightening and thoroughly enjoyable. I hope you both enjoyed your holidays and some well-deserved R&R 💕
This was fun! I only wish some of the Q&As included updates -- what did they end up doing? (Not that you need more work to do ... ) If you do these again and need help, I'm a writer (not that I need more work to do ... but this would be fun). Happy New Year Shandys (or is it Shandies?).
THE MIDNIGHT LIBRARY!!! One of the best books I read in 2020 💚 I'm still encouraging you to read THE GIFT OF FEAR by Gavin deBecker! Its smart, educational, well written and could potentially save your life! I think it's an important book for young adults so they can learn to listen to their sixth sense (gut feeling) and possibly keep themselves out of a dangerous situation. Please consider reading this book! And I humbly add that I have a bookroom with 1650+ books...I love and respect books and The gift of fear is one I've never forgotten and bought for every young person in my life.
Loved this so much!! ❤ 😊 ❤ I hope that you guys had a Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah and of course May 2024 bring you nothing but Health and Happiness!!! 🎉
Favorite movie of the year: Past Lives. The audience was audibly weeping at the end, but it was a good weep, not s tragic weep. * Thank you Shandy for an entertaining year 😊
Thank you and happy holidays! The pencil socks are hands down my favorite socks too. So adorable. I now find myself looking at socks and thinking of you every time we travel out of town. ❤🧦
You guys are the best! You made me cry when you sang at the end❤ Very beautiful 😊 I love what you guys are. Also going to work on in the new year! I always thought the hands together were praying also until I started typing thank you and they started showing up.😂
I do the egg shell powder thing but I sprinkle it into my dog’s food. Very healthy for them! I didn’t know about the banana water tip though. Definitely will try because I love houseplants but they always die on me.
There's a great Shakespearean quote: "Beauty provoketh thieves sooner than gold" which I've always loved and think it certainly gets to the heart of the idea of the trancendentals: Truth, Beauty, and Goodness. I've largely thought of the expense of art as a product of the practical reasons, ie rarity, those listed in kimberlyf4888's comment, etc, but Andy, you make a good point. There are lots of things that are beautiful and rare; and many of those are crafted items as well. Why art? "...their conception of beauty inherent", that seems spot on. And there seems to be something in the unsaid. A car is that and has that function while paintings have a mystery to them. They give more. I appreciate the thought! Sharleen, so glad to hear you are making strides in not being a people pleaser! I've often heard that from women, this idea of 'what did I do wrong?' and often enough it's not them, so it's a great thing to see that overcome. In my experience it seems especially difficult for people who have a very caring heart, so there's that to be glad of. Happy Holidays! Loved the plant tips!
I think both you and Andy would really enjoy the humans by Matt Haig. It's about an alien that is sent to Earth to kill a human and he winds up having to take his place first and kind of discover what it is to be human and the difficulties and things, it's not super sci-fi it's really more just a view on life and it is so good!
Yes! Thank you for the recommendation. I checked this out at the library yesterday and finished it today. It's funny, deep and heartfelt. Moved me to laughter and tears several times. Much of the subject matter reminded me of Andy's what-it-is-to-be-human-ish tangents that we're all so fond of. Will definitely be revisiting at some point! Thanks again!
I really enjoyed the book review! Quickly went and ordered Dispatches. I’ve also seen Yellowface on the shelves almost everywhere but didn’t know anything about it
a good question about tickling is does your beloved feel more loved afterwards? It's like teasing, if the person doesn't like teasing, then don't do it!
Final destination- They escaped death in accidents where others died like when a roller coaster flies off the tracks. The survivors are marked. Fun movie.
Hi there. As an avid and longtime pickleball player I just want to add a few comments regarding the pickleball group situation. Dynamics on the court are very fluid and it is not uncommon for one player to remind their partner that a shot was intended for them to return. The difficulty arises when the reminder is given quickly in the middle of the game as it often comes across in short form which can definitely be construed as aggressive on the part of the player that missed the shot. I agree that the caller bears responsibility for ensuring that her comments are taken in the vein intended and between the two of them they can set ground rules for how they communicate as a team when playing together. With regards to being left out I have also had a similar experience. I was responsible for organizing our group of players for around five years and considered those people to be friends. However, out of the blue and with no advance warning half a dozen of the group decided they no longer wanted to play with the rest of us. They were quite deceitful in how they went about this and seriously they reminded me of stereotypical mean girls. For added context this was a group of supposedly mature women in their 40’s to 60’s. At the end of the day I decided that these women were not the kind of “friends” I wanted to invest any time and energy into and have found other new and absolutely delightful people to play with. I have since discovered it is not unusual within the pickleball community for some people to just splinter off and no longer have any communication with people they played with for a number of years. I hope the caller has recognized that there are always going to be different people to play with and that changes in groups are not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes friends are meant to be “situational” (as in people in a dance group or an exercise class) and then there are true personal friends that one has a deep connection with. Those are the friendships that I hope everyone learns to treasure and protect as they are the ones that will sustain you through the ups and downs of life and they require time, attention and good communication in order to maintain them. Perhaps the caller will decide to differentiate between the two in the future. Thank you for all your amazing podcasts and I wish you both Happy Holidays and the Happiest of New Years!!!!
About the locked door, maybe he doesn’t want her to see his art after he has worked on it, so not just uninterrupted time to work on it but to keep it private until he’s ready to show it to someone. That would maybe make sense.
Tickling: I'm going to take this a little heavy to make my point. Men should just assume Tickling is off the table unless given enthusiastic consent. I say this because Tickling is usually the first 'testing of the water' that groomers do to children. Many people don't have great memories attached to Tickling.
My blood boiled again hearing the Tesla question. A clear resounding no way in hell and I can’t believe you had the gall to ask!!! Oh, and the “issue” is entitlement
Worst babysitting experience my sister and I were drug off the couch and they tickled our feet and popped our toes yikes it was in the 70 s so maybe that was a thing 😢
the question is why does the Tesla woman have so much problem envisioning and speaking up for her boundary? the problem is how could he possibly prove that he can drive safely now? would 2 years be enough without an accident? he hasn't taken responsibility for his accidents and identified the reason, such as being on his phone, having ADD (untreated), being blind maybe?
Art is a way to pay for goods and services or to hide or wAsh money. High end Fashion is similar, it doesnt mean art isnt truly appreciated it just means the morally corrupt side of humanity saw an opportunity to use it in a way to hide their hideousacts. The whole industry is a giant rabbit hole.
I may be a little cynical but I know a lot of rich people buy art as a way to hide away their money. It's not even for enjoyment just treated as a way to launder money.
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Um I've never needed an update more than the LOCKED ROOM?! I forgot how wild that question was. 😬
I'm hoping for an update on that one as well! I also want to know what happened with the office hugger! 🤗😆
I was driving through Wyoming but not in a park and I turned a corner and there was a Moose in the middle of the road. I managed to stop about 6 inches from her. We made eye contact and it was beautiful. All of a sudden, two little babies came out of the woods and they all crossed the road. That memory is precious to me!
Ps. That was about 20 years ago but my friends still call me “Moose.”
Wow! That is incredible - what a moment
How amazing!!
Been watching your old videos while on your break. Seen your wedding special and "how we met" last couple days, haha...
Thank you for sharing all of this...and the people pleasing reflection really hit home...as well as trying to be positive just for the sake thereof...you guys rock and roll...all my very best and thank you! ❤❤❤
Hey Sharleen. I’ve watched at least 10 seasons of the Bachelor/Bachelorette but my GF and I decided to finally watch your season. I’ve always been a fan but that just grew tenfold. I stood and clapped after you received the first impression rose when you said what mattered was if you felt a connection. Bravo. You were a queen amongst the cast who never compromised in your beliefs for the camera or the excitement. I’m so happy you found Andy and he’s even luckier to have found someone like you. I wish the two of you nothing but the best.
Sharleen, I am right there with you on your favorite moment of self insight. You put into words so beautifully something that I've been realizing about myself this year too. So relatable, as always! Thank you for sharing your 2023 with all of us Shandies! Happy Holidays! ❤
Thank you for saying this! Happy holidays and thank you for being a lovely Shandy! 🫶
I relate SO much to both of your self-insights of 2023. I wish for you that you can move forward in your journeys in 2024. ❤
This was really fun. Enjoy the break and see you next year.
Thank you for selecting my question about how you’ve changed and become a better person! I’m glad to hear the boundaries around people pleasing has improved, way to go Sharleen!
We loved your question! And as for the people-pleasing… baby steps 🙃
If I had a product to advertise, Dear Shandy would be my first choice. Your sponsors should be thrilled with the work you do for them!
Also, I think humans pay for paintings for a couple of reasons: 1) it's a way to move money across borders easily 2) the investment 3) as a way to display their wealth on their walls. And, love of art of course.
Totally agree!
Totally agree. Best promos ever!!
As a fellow worrier who is always battling negative thinking and catastrophizing, I want to share this quote: "If you get caught up in the worst case scenario and it doesn't happen, you've wasted your time. And if you are caught up in the worst case scenario and it does happen, you've lived it twice."
I heard Michael J. Fox say this in an interview on CNN in the doctor's office waiting room 10 - 15 years ago, and the idea that if I assume the worst I will have lived through it twice really stuck with me.
I’m visiting my boyfriend’s family in Seattle for Christmas. I listened to your podcast today and heard your rec for Paju. We had a huge change of plans this evening and happened to be walking by Paju when looking for a restaurant… they could take us right away and it was DELISH! Thanks for such an amazing rec! We told them we found them through your podcast and they were excited 😊
Yay!!! I hope you had the dessert 🤤
Love the long episode
We need an organization/closet styling tips video from Sharleen on how you store your fabulous wardrobe in a small space/apartment to help the rest of us! 🤩 I feel like even with multiple closets, my closet game is subpar.
Yes 💯 please!
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I would think Andy's favorite beauty find of 2023 would be his barber in Seattle. Great selection of questions and Sharleen, you have given us a superb fashion show this year. Thank you for sharing about the negative thinking. I tend to over worry about things too. But I did think it was helping the outcome. I'll have to think about that one. Also, really appreciate the Blue Christmas Duet at the end. A very beautiful and happy holiday season to you both!
I really enjoyed the format of this episode. I've been watching segments throughout the day today. The Blue Christmas song was great! Have a wonderful holiday season! 😊
I don't know why the blue Christmas song made me cry 😂😂. I love you two so much. Thank you for entertaining us and keeping us company while we drive, work, clean etc. I hope you have the best holiday!!!
The car thing was so spot on. She says no, her car her money her decision. And it's not helping him letting drive her new tesla.
Happy Holidays !
So true, can you imagine how her auto insurance would increase after he had an accident in her car; her current company would drop her and another policy with a new insurer would double or triple her cost.The stress on their budget would likely break them up, so hold your ground!!
This year my christmas song is Blue Christmas (grieving the recent loss of my beloved pet). The song at the end absolutely made my day, my holiday season. Thank you Sharleen and Andy
What a fantastic episode; you two never fail to make me smile & giggle❣️Thanks for a fantastic fun-filled Shandy 2023. Wishing you both blessed holidays 😇Can’t wait for Shanty 2024 ⭐️ 🗽
Excellant Elvis Andy! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Love you guys. Happy New Year!
Thank you for another spectacular year of heartwarming, funny, thoughtful, ~stylish~, melodic 🎶, and downright good-for-the-soul Dear Shandy!!! We only see a fraction of all the hard work and care that you pour into your show (😇), but please know it doesn’t go unrecognized! Happy holidays from all of the Shandies and wishing you both a wonderful 2024 ahead ❤🎉
Thanks for a great year listening to callers, Q&A's and recaps that make me happy I don't have to answer them! 😂 See you in 2024!
Happy Holidays dear Shandy your podcast makes my day brighter every time I tuned in!
The dead hooker comment from Andy almost had me on the floor, I was laughing so hard 😂. I'm a senior citizen who has a very long dating, cohabitating, and married life history, and no man has ever mentioned needing his own locked room. I was even engaged to an artist I lived with for years. He did his art in the living room floor, the dining room table, a spare bedroom. I just don't think that's it Andy, but I could be wrong. I do think you hit the nail on the head when you said maybe he didn't have his own space growing up. We are a product of our parents and, subsequently, childhood. She needs to know exactly why and it better be a fantastic answer.
Great end of the year episode. It was very enlightening and thoroughly enjoyable. I hope you both enjoyed your holidays and some well-deserved R&R 💕
This was fun! I only wish some of the Q&As included updates -- what did they end up doing? (Not that you need more work to do ... ) If you do these again and need help, I'm a writer (not that I need more work to do ... but this would be fun). Happy New Year Shandys (or is it Shandies?).
Seems Shandy can already be plural!?!
Yes!! I can't wait to watch this! Thank you for another great year of love sessions, Q&A's, special topics, and recaps!!
Happy holidays Shandy ❤ I really appreciate your show
the jingle harmonies!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
THE MIDNIGHT LIBRARY!!!
One of the best books I read in 2020 💚
I'm still encouraging you to read THE GIFT OF FEAR by Gavin deBecker!
Its smart, educational, well written and could potentially save your life!
I think it's an important book for young adults so they can learn to listen to their sixth sense (gut feeling) and possibly keep themselves out of a dangerous situation.
Please consider reading this book!
And I humbly add that I have a bookroom with 1650+ books...I love and respect books and The gift of fear is one I've never forgotten and bought for every young person in my life.
Your singing at the end was the highlight of my day, a great episode. 💕
Did you know Andy's photo is on the Yelp page for the Zingone Brothers grocery store??
It’s my greatest claim to fame!
Awesome Elvis, Andy!!! Amazing!
Not kidding I need a good eczema cream….what brand was it??!
Loved this so much!! ❤ 😊 ❤
I hope that you guys had a Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah and of course May 2024 bring you nothing but Health and Happiness!!! 🎉
Fantastic Elvis!!
Omggg that final song 😮🤯😍 Dayum!!! You both are so talented and magical!! ✨ Happy Holidays Shandy!
Favorite movie of the year: Past Lives. The audience was audibly weeping at the end, but it was a good weep, not s tragic weep. * Thank you Shandy for an entertaining year 😊
Shandylicious! Merry Christmas :) !!!!
Thank you and happy holidays! The pencil socks are hands down my favorite socks too. So adorable. I now find myself looking at socks and thinking of you every time we travel out of town. ❤🧦
You guys are the best! You made me cry when you sang at the end❤
Very beautiful 😊 I love what you guys are. Also going to work on in the new year! I always thought the hands together were praying also until I started typing thank you and they started showing up.😂
Really like Andy's hair today.
I loved this episode! Do either of you have a public Goodreads account? I’m very interested in following your reads!
I do the egg shell powder thing but I sprinkle it into my dog’s food. Very healthy for them! I didn’t know about the banana water tip though. Definitely will try because I love houseplants but they always die on me.
Incredible style as always Sharleen! Where did you get the shirt from? It's so elegant and simple.
Great episode! Happy Holidays 🎉
Omg I loved this so much! Great year end show structure
There's a great Shakespearean quote: "Beauty provoketh thieves sooner than gold" which I've always loved and think it certainly gets to the heart of the idea of the trancendentals: Truth, Beauty, and Goodness. I've largely thought of the expense of art as a product of the practical reasons, ie rarity, those listed in kimberlyf4888's comment, etc, but Andy, you make a good point. There are lots of things that are beautiful and rare; and many of those are crafted items as well. Why art? "...their conception of beauty inherent", that seems spot on. And there seems to be something in the unsaid. A car is that and has that function while paintings have a mystery to them. They give more. I appreciate the thought!
Sharleen, so glad to hear you are making strides in not being a people pleaser! I've often heard that from women, this idea of 'what did I do wrong?' and often enough it's not them, so it's a great thing to see that overcome. In my experience it seems especially difficult for people who have a very caring heart, so there's that to be glad of.
Happy Holidays! Loved the plant tips!
I need a full version of Andy's version of Blue Christmas please
I think both you and Andy would really enjoy the humans by Matt Haig. It's about an alien that is sent to Earth to kill a human and he winds up having to take his place first and kind of discover what it is to be human and the difficulties and things, it's not super sci-fi it's really more just a view on life and it is so good!
Yes! Thank you for the recommendation. I checked this out at the library yesterday and finished it today. It's funny, deep and heartfelt. Moved me to laughter and tears several times. Much of the subject matter reminded me of Andy's what-it-is-to-be-human-ish tangents that we're all so fond of. Will definitely be revisiting at some point! Thanks again!
That's how I felt too!! It is such an Andy book in the very best way! I've come to really love Matt Haig!!
I really enjoyed the book review! Quickly went and ordered Dispatches. I’ve also seen Yellowface on the shelves almost everywhere but didn’t know anything about it
Now I'm worried about Oliver's tight collar! ♡ Hope I heard wrong
a good question about tickling is does your beloved feel more loved afterwards? It's like teasing, if the person doesn't like teasing, then don't do it!
Final destination- They escaped death in accidents where others died like when a roller coaster flies off the tracks. The survivors are marked. Fun movie.
Since Andy's uniform is the same in every episode (minus the socks), looks like all "today" and "replay" clips are happening in the same sitting 😅
Can someone explain his uniform? Why not wear something else once-in-awhile?
Hi there. As an avid and longtime pickleball player I just want to add a few comments regarding the pickleball group situation. Dynamics on the court are very fluid and it is not uncommon for one player to remind their partner that a shot was intended for them to return. The difficulty arises when the reminder is given quickly in the middle of the game as it often comes across in short form which can definitely be construed as aggressive on the part of the player that missed the shot. I agree that the caller bears responsibility for ensuring that her comments are taken in the vein intended and between the two of them they can set ground rules for how they communicate as a team when playing together. With regards to being left out I have also had a similar experience. I was responsible for organizing our group of players for around five years and considered those people to be friends. However, out of the blue and with no advance warning half a dozen of the group decided they no longer wanted to play with the rest of us. They were quite deceitful in how they went about this and seriously they reminded me of stereotypical mean girls. For added context this was a group of supposedly mature women in their 40’s to 60’s. At the end of the day I decided that these women were not the kind of “friends” I wanted to invest any time and energy into and have found other new and absolutely delightful people to play with. I have since discovered it is not unusual within the pickleball community for some people to just splinter off and no longer have any communication with people they played with for a number of years. I hope the caller has recognized that there are always going to be different people to play with and that changes in groups are not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes friends are meant to be “situational” (as in people in a dance group or an exercise class) and then there are true personal friends that one has a deep connection with. Those are the friendships that I hope everyone learns to treasure and protect as they are the ones that will sustain you through the ups and downs of life and they require time, attention and good communication in order to maintain them. Perhaps the caller will decide to differentiate between the two in the future. Thank you for all your amazing podcasts and I wish you both Happy Holidays and the Happiest of New Years!!!!
About the locked door, maybe he doesn’t want her to see his art after he has worked on it, so not just uninterrupted time to work on it but to keep it private until he’s ready to show it to someone. That would maybe make sense.
Tickling: I'm going to take this a little heavy to make my point. Men should just assume Tickling is off the table unless given enthusiastic consent. I say this because Tickling is usually the first 'testing of the water' that groomers do to children. Many people don't have great memories attached to Tickling.
Tell me the jingles don’t remember you of God Loves a Terrier from Best in Show. I’ll wait.
Your socks make you look like a character from The Son of Zorn lol
I don't mean to sound negative but I have always thought paintings are for moving around the money you don't want people to know you have😅
My blood boiled again hearing the Tesla question. A clear resounding no way in hell and I can’t believe you had the gall to ask!!!
Oh, and the “issue” is entitlement
Worst babysitting experience my sister and I were drug off the couch and they tickled our feet and popped our toes yikes it was in the 70 s so maybe that was a thing 😢
the question is why does the Tesla woman have so much problem envisioning and speaking up for her boundary? the problem is how could he possibly prove that he can drive safely now? would 2 years be enough without an accident? he hasn't taken responsibility for his accidents and identified the reason, such as being on his phone, having ADD (untreated), being blind maybe?
EX is the John McEnroe of Pickle ball. 😬 ? 🤔
Art is a way to pay for goods and services or to hide or wAsh money. High end Fashion is similar, it doesnt mean art isnt truly appreciated it just means the morally corrupt side of humanity saw an opportunity to use it in a way to hide their hideousacts. The whole industry is a giant rabbit hole.
I still think that guy is a serial killer like Andy - it’s just too weird
I may be a little cynical but I know a lot of rich people buy art as a way to hide away their money. It's not even for enjoyment just treated as a way to launder money.
That crazy lady needs to pay the piper for all the trouble she has caused..It has been absolutely disgusting.