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We intentionally drove out of our way just to see the original wooden ceilings and roofs at the Aztec Ruins National Monument near Aztec, NM and we weren't disappointed! The main kiva, (which is huge!) was rebuilt to exact detail of the original and is interesting enough, but to pass through the long, still standing original living quarters with it's roof still intact was amazing! I need to find out who that roofing contractor was because I need that kind of quality for my own place. In the darkness, my little Olight rechargable keychain flashlight surprised me with it's brightness:
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For clarification, these were Chaco Indians at this location and, just to confuse us I'm sure, they named the ruins after the nearby town of "Aztec". However, the Aztecs DID travel up this far and even further to the east to Florida. Probably all over, as far as I'm concerned, for necessary trade and I firmly believe that the ancient inhabitants of the world were a lot more mobile than we previously thought.
So much we do NOT know.
Pastor Gene Kim has a line of historical sermons on the migration found in the bible, the problem with history is man fails to learn from history. What we actually know just fails to make in the scholl history books. God bless!!
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We cannot learn from history freshly made today, much less history made long ago.
@@jimb5113 do what?
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You said: "the problem with history is man fails to learn from history". I said: "We cannot learn from history" regardless of when it was made. Today is as much history as the first seven of creation.
New mexico is very underrated. Lots to see and explore
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These great kiva sites are interconnected with Chaco canyon site by 30 foot wide roads radiating from Chaco Canyon. Those rooms with full ceilings intact where store rooms. The larger kivas where for full community spiritual gatherings and ceremonies. The smaller kivas where for clan kiva ceremonies and in cold days even used for daily chores and cooking. As you noted, a great kiva site which are all over western NM, Az, southern CO, and Utah, have direct connection and significant influence from Chaco Canyon. And from there had influence and trading from central American Mayan culture. They were far more advanced in their ways than any of us realize and today find their influence on puebloian peoples of southwest, especially on the mesas of the Hopi peoples and their kiva culture.
Thanks for your input William! People my age were raised to think that the people of that era were heathen and barbaric, but what we see in places like this tells me that they were very advanced. Compare to the Feudal era in the rest of the world and it looks to me like they were on par.
If only the walls could talk. Listen for ancient whispers as you pass their way. 🪶
_I don't know, but it seems like the T shape door was for carrying things on their shoulders? Like water or big game, maybe bows and arrows or their gods for protection? I don't know; I'm just guessing!_
Sounds good to me ! Makes sense
Or even to carry firewood?
Which is one reason they say a lot of these places were eventually abandoned; they simply ran out of firewood in that particular area. Interesting thought.
Yes, doors were constructed to allow a person through carrying a bundle of whatever.
@@gonagain The Southwest was experiencing a drought during this time period. Resources became scarce and pressure from competing tribes forced the settlements to be abandoned. These structures were built for protection from roving bands of not so like minded native americans. The Hopi have a name for them.
Incredible how preserved the roofs are! I too think the doorways were built to allow carrying in water, fire wood but to also preserve heat/cool air by being as narrow as possible. The rod in the top of the openings may have been to hang a flap of material for insulation or privacy?
Or maybe the rod in the top was a hinge? That would let doors pivot up and out of the way but still carry wide loads on shoulder beams. What if all doors operated like garage doors and when opened stored up and out of the way?
@@jimb5113like a doggie door! That makes sense. It would close on its own so the person carrying a heavy load would not be bothered with having to close the door behind them.
@@SamuraiMama .... And we think we are so smart, LOLOL!
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@@SamuraiMama ..... Just for giggles search for some Aztec musical instruments. Different culture with a different beat, and sound, I bet.
Incredible ruins. It's now on my list of places to visit. Thanks for sharing.
From what I have read of these doorways the shape/size was part of a defense system in case of attack from outsiders. T shape was to facilitate carrying wide loads, like bundles of firewood, while still not allowing more than one person to enter the room at a time. The raised threshold and short door heights also provided slower access that made an attacker vulnerable to harm. Lined up doorways thru the rooms provides a straight arrow path in case of attack. True or not, I don't know, but makes sense to me.
Your guess is as good as most scientific data.
I agree with you and Jim, that makes perfect sense to me also. That's putting yourself into their shoes and looking for the most sensible answer!
@@gonagain If I can interject here. My thought that it had more to do with ventilation and small critter control. The upper is a window and the bottom could be opened to walk in. I suspect they had more to fear from small critters than fellow humans in those days. That seems more in tune to their environment.
Ancient architect
Very interesting. Even a 1000 years ago they knew that those metal campfire rings wouldn't provide enough air intake! Ha Ha!
Hello Steve. On some kiva ruins you can even see the vertical situated flat stone used to keep the air draft from blowing directly on the fire.
When I was a kid I went on vacation with my parents and I remember Mesa Verde and I think that place
ruins that were out on open ground. The thought was that the Anasazi move to the open grounds that big kiva. They were all over the place at Mesa Verde and only the largest one was refurbished. I also remember leaving the trail and finding piles of rocks. Those are the walls of other buildings it was a matter of unpiling rocks until you found the original wall and then clear out the Rubble. There is a smaller one of those locations in Colorado Springs. Great great video
Thanks for watching Wes! There's so much to be seen.
The anthropologists claim that the Anasazi are the ancestors of the modern Pueblo tribes. I have trouble believing that the artisans and craftsmen who created the structures in Aztec and Chaco are the same people who built the dwellings still being lived in at the Pueblos today.
Really enjoy your vids. Good ideas for road trips for us living in Texas.
I've driven right by there a few times a year for the last two decades and haven't ever stopped - will have to make time the next trip through the area!
T shaped doors provide a shelf to put your beer can on before entering. 🤔😁
LOL!
My guess on T shape doors is ease of access if carrying a basket, the small rooms with low head room held turkeys L
Really?! I hadn't thought of that but it could very well be because they were farmers. The more I think about that the more it makes perfect sense. Thanks, Lucian.
Nm ruins is on my list of want to see, thanks for the video. God bless!!
Super Nice video Rick. History is 'the best' window for the Future, if people would only take the time to study it. The 'Aztec-Two-Step' is about how they Arrived and why they Moved On. Many Mysteries still remain. Also, a theory about the T Shape doorway was to Accommodate the Large Headdresses worn by their Priests. I Love American History, both South & North. Thanks for another Good One👏👏👏👍
Thanks for your input on the T shaped doorways Vincenzo! That could very well be true, because those doorways aren't everywhere, only in certain places.
I think the 'T' shaped doors were because they had huge shoulders......Ha!
Actually, it may have been to expedite moving large objects in and out of the rooms like baskets of grain.
Good thought Jim. We always tend to give elaborate explanations to things that perplex us when the real reason might just be something as simple as carrying baskets, like you've suggested!
One thing is for sure the great archeologist forced beliefs in the past have been proven wrong. Often the simple things are why, a T shape would provide ventilation above and still be closed at bottom like a dutch door, provide room for carrying things in the room but still restricting to one person for security. So many simple reasons. People traveled much more than they often tell you. Digs have proven items moved across the continent. That area was not so arid a couple thousand years ago, they can study the soil and see what grew there in the past to have an idea on what the weather would have been.
Thanks Badger Pa, things that we thought impossible, like crossing the ice sheet from the north, we're easily bypassed by coming down the coast. The idea that early civilizations didn't know how to build a simple boat is just wrong and we're now learning that they did.
@@gonagain They have proven boats historically back a lot farther than what used to be the dates. The "scientist" that think ice is a deterrent have never gone to Alaska and watched them slide their boats right out on the ice and travel for miles. Just a couple years ago a radio collared Fox traveled from europe to North America, they could not believe a fox would travel that far on ice. If a fox can make it across the Atlantic ocean on ice people could have.
Amazing History in our backyard for sure. Very cool. Peace
I noticed Linda didn't have to bend over to go through the doorways. Hahaha
She definitely had the advantage!
wow!
that's a lot of stone. Picked carried and mortared.
Maybe there were lots of people to do the werk.
Amazing!
Vary interesting I wasnt aware the Aztec's were that far north.
Actually, these were Chaco Indians and the place was named after the nearby town of Aztec. But who knows, because they did travel far and wide, even back then.
Rick, thanks for sharing. These Kivas are much bigger than the ones at Chimney Rock CO, which is from the same time period. I did a video on it. Do you think that the main long corridors a line with the breeze in the summertime? Also may be the T shape doors make it easy to carry things in your arms? The lower rods may be what they hung curtains from? Don
You may be right about hanging curtains from the lower rods. All we can do is imagine and guess. Thanks for watching, Don. How're you doing this hot, hot summer?
Rick, so far so good. I am in Colorado and heading to South Dakota next week. After that Wyoming and Montana. Don
Nicely done, informative video. Thanks.
What a great place! Exquisite craftsmanship!😍
Good footage. I had not seen that before. Amazing, simply amazing.
I thought I’d visited about everywhere in the Four Corners but, obviously, I missed this one. Thank you! Bucket list for sure!
Amazing how well intact the structure and wood is. I'm only guessing low humidity levels help
Thanks, Rick, for reminding us that these were Chaco people, not Aztecs, and the site is named after a neighboring town. Another destination on my bucket list!
Very interesting video. Thank you for bringing us along.
I was getting claustrophobic. 😍
I have always been amazed at the knowledge the Aztec had. But I'm glad that they have that human sacrifice out of their system. lol
Hello Chris! These were Chaco Indians at this location and, just to confuse us I'm sure, they named the ruins after the nearby town of "Aztec". However, the Aztecs DID travel up this far and even further to the east to Florida. Probably all over, as far as I'm concerned, for necessary trade.
@@gonagain ..... For trade and/or future fodder for the gods.
This is going on my bucket list next year, thanks for the tour. 👍👍
A person carrying a heavy load is wider at the top hence, the doors are wider at the top. If one is stooped over it is harder to swing a weapon. This could be the reason for the thick low doorways.
Very interesting place. Hope we can get there some day.
There is a lots more restoration done there since I was a youngin" !
Interesting video. Gonna have to make a trip there.
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Maybe The T shaped doors were to get arm loads of Fire wood through.
So where did the people go that they did not need there grinding stones?
From what I've learned, they stashed tools like this in different areas so they wouldn't need to be carried along.
@@gonagain Yeah who would want to lug around big ole grinding stones anyway? Good video thanks
Wow that is incredible we hat great history
Nothing wrong with getting off the beaten path.
So interesting makes me wonder how all these people lost there skills thru the generations but so well built at the time
Oppression might be how. Instead of allowing people freedom to solve their own problems, leadership tells what/how to do things. Leaders only need to fail once to destroy society.
I wonder that too. What happened?
This has been true for a lot of civilizations, past and present.
Cool place! We were close this past Spring but couldn't see it all... we'll be back.
Thanks for the video. Just makes going back all the more desirable.
Hope you make it back there. Be sure to get the app before you start your walk through there--it'll tell you what you're looking at. We didn't, lol, so you might learn more than we did.
I would love to visit there.
How did they store water?
Any testing for toxic substances?
Thank you
I honestly don't know how they stored large amounts of water except in large ceramic containers. But there was usually a water source nearby these places.
Appreciate the video guys, I’m always fascinated about ancient history and civilizations. I think they knew more than what we give them credit for. Amazing stuff!!
My feelings exactly. From what I've learned, they were ahead of Europe at that time, had invented the wheel but had no use for it
Just another amazing video. Thanks! But you make my weeks so long waiting on what comes next.
The roof construction is similar to today. Posts, rafters, sheathing. They just used better materials. Now we use built in extinction.
That flashlight is amazing. Thanks for that link!
That flashlight is no gimmick! I use it all the time and a charge lasts pretty long. You'll like it, Jim.
Believe it or not, I have a friend who works for the NPS and his department builds the phone apps for each National Park and Monument! I’ll tell him you enjoy his work!
Thank you for passing it on to him, Bill.
Very nice, I was there taking some Anthropology students on a Spring Break trip from Colorado back in '95. It was nice to see the restored Kiva to get a sense of what they looked like 1000+ years ago. I've been to many of the Chacoan sites, these were amazing. Thanks for sharing.
That kiva was amazing and we stayed in it for quite awhile just taking it in.
One of my favorite places! The stonework is really beautiful. Be sure to also see nearby Chaco Canyon, Mesa Verde, and the Salmon Ruins. As I recall there are remaining archeological indications that they were interconnected by extensive footpaths.
You're right about the paths or roads interconnecting these places. I was just told that the long, dark structure that we passed through was for raising turkeys. That would make perfect sense because there wasn't any soot on the ceiling.
Interesting 🌴🍊🐊
This was posted in July so not sure when you were there, but you were brave to go to NM in summer. What a special place. In all the years I lived in NM I never saw half of the places you've showed us. And yes, those ceilings were remarkable. Thank you 😊
We were there in June and it was already very hot for us Montanans.
With all your rock finding have you found any "bannerstones? I was seeing some YT videos about them and thought of how Linda finds unusual rocks. Would be something to find rocks like that.
I need to look up what a banner stone is, but if we'd found one I guess we'd know it!
Love this trip
Have you been to the Scab Lands? It’s a geological formation with a lot of controversy over how it formed
I grew up in Moses Lake and have traipsed all over that region. I knew that the area had been formed by a large water event and, even in the 50s, my father pointed out the prehistoric banks of the Columbia river, but I didn't know the details like you've just pointed out. Thanks!
I doubt we could build places like that this day and time. A lot of old ruins were set up for fighting off the enemy. Be hard to run through the tight doorways with spears and bows.It would be great to know the real history of a lot of things. It’s always the same the privilege few always say, we can’t let the masses know this. They can’t take the knowledge. Good video my friend. Take care and stay safe
There's been some great ideas here in the comments concerning the T shaped doors and they go along with your idea of defense in case of attack and convenience (carrying large baskets).
We were just there in April 2021, then on to Mesa Verde. Amazing that these structures are still standing.
I agree, that's why I had to see it.
Great video Rick!
This place is incredible. It's going on our bucket list of places to go to. I have been pretty sick battling this whole prostate thing. I'm winning it won't get the best of me. I haven't been able to get out because the doctor's don't want me to catch a cold or something stupid like that. I love that there is still wood there that is original. There isn't much history in the US that has that age of history to it. I want to visit the big cave dwellings in Manitou springs Colorado. I lived in Denver for 12 years and never went there. I really don't have a answer for why I never went. I backpacked all over Colorado and never went there. I guess I was ment to go with my Linda. We are going to make a trip that will take us to some of the places you guys have been to. I want to see the tank tracks in the dessert and the painted dessert. I have a 2008 trailblazer that is ready to hit the road. It got a clean bill of health from my mechanic and I really don't trust anyone when it comes to my vehicles. I'm looking forward to hitting the road but I have to beat this prostate thing first. Oh well can't focus on what I can't do and focus on what I can do. Happy Safe travels
I went through a prostate surgery and, after two years, I'm still testing negative for cancer, but it sounds like yours has really set you back. After the surgery my life was miserable for a few months, but I have it under control now, if you know what I mean. It ain't perfect, but I'm still breathing and I hope you get back your life back soon too.
Looks like they were using the Earth to insulate against heat and cold. In the Summer it would be cooler, and the winter warmer.
How mant small rocks they needed to gather to build is amazing. Did they use anything as such as mortar?
They did use a mud mixture of some sort to hold the stones and seal out the wind.
On my bucket list of places to see. I love history and this place looks so interesting. I wonder how big they were back then?
We read something along this trip that said the people back then were about 5ft. 3in on the average. Linda would have blended right in at 5ft.
They are not grinding stones they are called Metatedies I believe that's how you spell it.
Good eye!!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metate
Maybe they had really big head or big hats. Your stuff is always so interesting.
One idea for the T shape was that they needed room for large, ceremonial headdresses, so you could be right!
I really enjoyed this video. I love the southwest. This is going to be on my list to visit on our next road trip in the lower 48.
Plan on going back over and over Kepa, because there's a lot to see.
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Cool vid, thx
Good stuff, Thank You much.
My pleasure!
Curtain rods to hang rugs from and keep heat in?
I think so too.
Maybe the doors were T shaped to carry water with a neck yoke??
Maybe!
I assume the stones used to build these places are in abundance near by?
Oh yeah, but it must have been a lot of hard work doing that all by hand. I get tired just looking at it!
Absolutely fantastic Rick, very interesting.
Must’ve been good to wander around your old stomping grounds after so long, 🤣🤣🤣.
Thanks guys!
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Yes it was! By the way, and I know you'll find this intersesting, I was just told that this long structure with it's low doors was for raising turkeys! Makes sense because there were no smoke holes or even soot on the ceilings.
While I was cleaning the smoker I worked out why the doors are ‘T’ shaped……
So they could carry the turkeys through them out for slaughter!!
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Amazing the crazy thoughts that go through one’s head in the morning (started cleaning it at 0530), 😂😂😂
I wonder what they used to hold the rock together?
There's a mud mixture of some sort that they used.
Definitely want to see that place! Looks amazing. Pretty incredible how much of the original building remains.👍🏻
Shoestring brought me here. Looking forward to your videos!.
Shoestring is quite the guy and a very nice person if you get the chance to meet him.
@@gonagain his way of life keeps me humble and appreciative. What a fascinating way to live.
Love the ancestral history. Also Love the bag Linda is carrying in this video. Is there a link for that bsg? I think it would work well for me. Thank you for sharing and be safe.
Linda got that bag from Duluth Trading Post and carries it everywhere. She loves it.
@@gonagain very nice. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I never would have been able to visit or experience that fascinating place. I believe the real short doorways were for their animals, whether beasts of burden or future meat.
I think you're right Hannah! Someone mentioned that they raised turkeys there.
@@gonagain perhaps the T doorways were for burros carrying water pots or firewood as well as goats being raised for meat ?
What a cool place to visit!
JT
It was amazing, JT!
One other thing, concerning thei T shaped doorways, generally these where the passage ways for individuals with spiritual significance usually to residences and kivas. The rectangular doorways were for egress for storage rooms and sometimes sealed with stone slabs. Same architecture is also found in Mayan ruins. Very interesting!
Very interesting
I figured you would like places like that!
Very cool!
Thank you, Gringo!
Just the type of history I would love to see!
How are you doing, Megs? Hope you make it out to see this place....gave me chicken skin. Pretty impressive.
@@gonagain these places are like visitation to our kupuna kahiko. I noticed that this was a part of the Anasazi culture which became the first Chaco, Pueblo Indians coming up from South America later to be known as the Hopi.
BTW my ribs have healed and I plan to get back on the road in a couple of weeks. I am thinking of heading north east first as have never seen that part.
Makes you wonder just how they did all this. You'll never find anything they build today in 1,100 years but back then they knew more about building to last. We hope that your tomorrow is better than your today was.