I think that Sam got a really good point there: people who get into metal just because of its rebellion or extremity factors, usually grow out of this style of music quite soon. But the people who like the musicianship and the power, the epicness of metal stay hooked for a long time. But yeah considering the future of the channel: It would be more than awesome if Sam traveled to Northern Europe to discover more about the metal there, like Swedish (melodic) death metal, Finnish metal, etc.
I was the one who asked about the goal of "Satan Lives." I've been keeping up with Sam Dunn's work since I saw "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" in 2007 as a little middle school girl. I could go on and on about how much I admire Sam Dunn and how his films have influenced me, but I just want to thank you guys for posting and answering my question. The film was not easy to understand at first for me since I thought it would be related to music, like the rest of Dunn's work. Cheers from the Chicago area!
I've been a fan for around a decade, Sam, and last night I fell into a hole binge watching Lock Horns. This show's awesome, and I fully intend to catch this show on live stream whenever possible! Subscribed.
I am 14 year old Sam, by which I mean I am a 14 year old die hard metal head living in Canada. I personally believe that the rebellious aspect of metal still exists, but in different form, and in a form that requires you to love the music, and not just be in it for the rebellion. Nowadays, metal is still rebellion against mainstream culture, but not so much against mainstream restraints
I'm one of those that believes that metal is anti-religion territory but I'm up for a good debate, bring it on. Also, what happened to the Voivod documentary, you guys really dropped the ball on this one, you MUST honor Piggy.
I am proud to be the first Nebraskan to tune in to a live viewing (yep, that was me). Sam, I'm a big fan of your work and love the show. I'm a newer subscriber but remember your work from Metal Evolution, etc. and it always takes me back to being a teenager jamming out on my bed, dreaming of being Bruce Dickinson, etc. What I love is how you keep things positive and upbeat. I'm about your age and the Metal community has had a bad habit of eating itself alive over the years (this band sucks, this genre sucks, etc.) instead of embracing all of it. We should be all fighting to keep heavy music alive (not that it's going anywhere)!
I didn’t know where else to write to you Sam, but found here. You give justice to the musicians as to their music and their mystic. Thank you brother for ALL the rock docs. I’m not only a fan of music but I’m a fan of the individuals and their stories. You creativeness statices my cravings. Today I finally got to watch the ZZ Top documentary. I’m a huge fan of the band and I was blown away!!! Thank you Sam, keep them coming.👍🏻
As for future content I'd like to see episodes or maybe 20-minute segments outlining specific sub-sub genres. Less a debate and maybe more just discussion or documentary-like explaining the history, sonic qualities, and maybe a suggestion list of key albums. Would love to see one on atmoblack in particular.
Dudes ! love lock horns ! always looking forward to watching the wednesdays episodes ( 9pm for me as living in the uk ) .Can't wait for the metal channel ! please contact me if you need a translator while interviewing Jean Michel or Christian from GOJIRA (we never hear them ) as a french expat myself i would be happy to offer my services for a sandwich and a cold beer and the chance to meet my current metal heroes .keep it up dudes !! Peace and joy and metal
Thank you so much for answering my question! I really love all you guys and gals do at Banger! You've opened my eyes and ears to new kinds of metal music that I would never have listened to before! I do have another question though: Some people I know have trouble discerning the difference between post-hardcore and metalcore, and I'm wondering if it might then be a good idea to add post-hardcore to the tree at some point? Some post-hardcore bands seem to have influenced many modern metal bands as well as having shifted the genre itself toward a more metallic sound. Bands like At The Drive In, Dance Gavin Dance (recently), Refused, A Day to Remember, The Fall of Troy, and Alesana all appear to be important bands that have made important contributions in some way or shape in terms of influence on modern metalcore/hardcore. Would like to see a post-hardcore episode if you all think it needs to be given the time.
Banger, Thank God for this chanel and you representing and keeping metal alive. There have been alot of documentaries done on Zeppelin, Sabbath and BTM on quite a few bands like Metallica,Megadeth,Anthrax. There have not been any proper documentaries done on Slayer or Iron Maiden. How do you feel about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I think that Motorhead, Iron Maiden,Judas Priest and the other three big 4 need to be inducted before any more hip hop.
Great episode that - I would like to see a part 2. I would also like to see one with Liisa and find out about her Goth tastes and the book mentioned in this episode.
Every metal band is a heavy metal band you dingus....Thats the most vague thing you could have possibly said, which shows you clearly don't know what your'e talking about. Helloween and Blind Guardian take massive influence from Maiden and Priest. You would have to be deaf or not know metal at all to not see the huge connection. And using Metallica and Misfits as a counter argument is just dumb. Those are vastly different bands. Misfits and Discharge aren't even metal! They're punk/hardcore. The point of my original comment still stands. I've never met someone who has said "Slayer is my favorite metal band, but I don't like thrash metal" still haven't met that guy yet.
Thanks for not even trying to reply to my previous comment. Just goes to show you never had anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say. Goodbye.
I'm one of those guys who love iron maiden but never cared for power metal(the only power metal band I listen to is helloween and the only album I really like is walls of jericho because it's thrashy). I really can't explain why I never got into power metal.
You can do an entire season of Metal Evolution on Extreme Metal sub genres. It would be interesting to do an episode of Lock Horns on Middle Eastern Metal.
Since I missed it, I'm going to leave my question here and pray to Odin it gets answered: why do you limit your streams to one hour? It's not like you're on TV and you're going to interrupt other shows, so what's the reason? Happy new year by the way 😄
You're not the first to ask! We find for most shows, at around 45 minutes, the key points of the topic have been exhausted and the chat becomes a list of shouts. Also, our analytics on actual viewer retention don't support making an hour--plus show. We encourage everyone who wants to continue the conversation in these comments after. And when necessary we will do a show part 2. Cheers!
BANGER Thanks for the swift reply, you're awesome! I understand what you're talking about, makes sense to me now. But it got me thinking, have you considered just having a regular old stream, without a particular topic, just you and the chat room? It would be nice to see your faces more than once a week 😊
I love that you guys did the sexism in metal episode, although I also understand (to a degree) the criticism it got. I would really love to see more of these episodes in which metal is discussed within a greater context of 'stuff that human beings do' and even beyond that. Some examples: 1-Politics & societal concerns in metal (I suspect it will be more polarizing than the sexism discussion); 2-Environmentalism in metal (not the most common theme for bands to address but it has been there since the beginning with Black Sabbath and has continued through Testament, Gojira, and recently I heard about the rise of eco-black metal with bands like Wolves in the Throne Room); 3-Religious, philosophical & spiritual traditions in metal (obv christianity is huge, but there are many different approaches (Amenra for example) - and there are also bands that find inspiration from different traditions altogether (Yob for example using Alan Watts voiceovers in their music). Ultimately a lot of these things I think are at the root of where metal comes from - or in other words, explain the metal phenomenon from a sociological point of view. Personally, this has been something I have always struggled with to understand (what is metal and what is its significance in relation to the rest of the world) and I was only able to find a satisfying 'answer' when I let go of (almost) everything metal in my life and came to realize more about the world and what matters in life (I came back later though, when I had the perspective to put metal in a more appropriate place). Thanks, love the show, keep up the awesome work! Kris D PS check out my post-metal band Shunyata (influenced by eastern spirituality, philosophy and science) ;) shunyata.bandcamp.com/releases
I would like to see more metal from around the globe you should see more local metal bands because there are a lot of great bands that deserve popularity :D
Your Christian metal expert might be Pastor Bob Beeman. He is not in a band, but was one of the earliest promoters of it and is found in the special thanks of MANY Christian albums from bands like Believer, Mortification, Sacrament, etc.
I thought the same, but I KNOW people will just make fun of his friendly demeanor and his "hair" unfortunately. But man, he has seen it all. I was also thinking, maybe get a member of Believer (aren't they from Canada?) or Extol. Again, Christian Metal covers just about all sub-genres as well :).
***** I'm pretty sure that Believer is from the US. Regardless, I agree that it would be kind of hard to cover all of Christian metal since it does cover all subgenres. However, I would focus mainly on that definitive period of late 80's/early 90's Christian thrash and death metal.
Yes (everything is on "Wiki" :P ) you are right, they are from Pennsylvania. I also look at it (as I'm sure the bands) that its too bad this . . . denomination, has to be separated from the rest of Metal. Otherwise bands like; Trouble, Kings X, Theocracy, Believer, 7 Days, Tourniquet, Extol, Living Sacrifice, Demon Hunter, Harmony and many others would fit right in with each sub-genre they belong to (Trouble, Believer and Kings X as the strongest exceptions being accepted into the fold for the most part). And many don't consider themselves "Christian Metal" - but believe in its principles and/or as their personal faith. BTW - Bob Beeman is surrounded by other pastors that have been in the Metal scene so maybe one of them will step forward as well. Or reach label reps from "R.E.X.", "Tooth & Nail Records", "Solid State" etc. who may know the history.
I invite you to discover the Philippines and it's thriving underground Metal scene here and hopefully it could become a part of the Global Metal sequel.
how about a guilty pleasures episode? i consider myself a "metalhead" at heart. my favorite bands are exodus, death angel, maiden, testament, hatchet, and so on. but i must say that i listen to queens of the stone age, janes addiction etc, just as much as those other bands. i might even put queens of the stone age as my favorite band. would love to know your favorite guilty pleasure bands or artists and other musicians guilty pleasures. also, loving the show!!! learning alot of things that i wasent privy to. you are my favorite documentarian. horns up forever
No one should have guilty pleasures! Like what you like, just explain what it is you like about it, you don't have to like everything with the same amount of respect and admiration, and if someone judges you because you happen to occasionally listen to some artist they don't, fuck them. Unless your favorite artist is J Cole or Lady Antebellum then I will judge the f u c k out of you..
here's one for ya Sammy since you're doing one on the mighty Beneath The Remains, how about an episode on album artists like Repka and Pusshead? I looked up the artist for Sep covers but I need a refresher!! These artists deserve more attention!
Michael R. Whelan. Yeah, the cover of Beneath the Remains is "Nightmare in Red." I got that tattooed on my left shoulder. He also did the cover of Obituary's Cause of Death (got that tattooed on my leg) which was also used by Demolition Hammer and for the cover of some H.P.Lovecraft books. Good show recommendation! I'd like to see that.
I’ve just watched the earache too 15(again), and it took until the second watch to give akerkocke a listen. WTF have I been missing. JHC they’re amazing.
Fav album cover - Sepultura's Arise. I stared at that cover for HOURS... mainly because, back in 'the day', I had it on tape and it was hard to make out all the little details, like the little guy on the plateau.
Ha... and I wrote that comment before I got to the end of this show. ARISE... best Sepultura album in my opinion. Production wise it was miles above the other albums. Song writing is amazing. Album art is great and musically they really hit their stride. I may be a bit biased as well since this was the first album of theirs I had heard. I was 14 when it came out and that was around when I started listening to MY music (not my parents or radio top 10 music). So, being at that impressionable age, this one left a HUGE impression on me. Me and a friend of mine would drop whatever we were doing and head bang when we heard the open E riff in Desperate Cry.... and then continue on doing whatever we were doing, once it was over, as though nothing had happened.
Sam, you are 100% correct - Beneath the Remains is obviously the best Sepultura album. 2nd and 3rd are also obvious with Arise and Schizophrenia going there. In fact, going past 1991 with Sepultura is a waste of ones time. (unless you're into that whole 'groove' thing, then by all means)
That's ridiculous, Roots is a great and highly influential album. After that when Max left and eventually Igor is when they became a waste of time. I only listen to the first what 5 albums with the Cavalera brothers.
I don't give 2 shits if it's influential and whatnot - it's fucking nu metal. Going from Thrash masterclass to mediocre Groove to shitty nu metal is a fucking travesty.
Would be great if the acoustics and overall sound was better. Bass traps and a few treatments on the walls. love the channel and all of the great content about the music I love. Thanks everyone.
They should make some documentary about metal festivales like metal evolution, something like Festival Evolution and you have Wacken, Bloodstock, Monsters of Rock, Rock in Rio, Hellfest etc.
How about the old Voivod doc? I believe Flight 666 put a stop to that but would love to see, even in unedited format, all that footage. I am originally from the same part of Quebec they are from and it would mean a lot. I believe the footage of Dave Grohl discussing Voivod for more than 20 mins that's found on youtube may be an outage from that, no?
Prog? You think so, I don't think it gets talked about enough (and its more technical bands), but I know Sam is very picky :p. I'm particular about Powermetal too, but I'd rather listen to Powermetal than a couple of sub-genres ;).
"Pleb - an ordinary person, especially one from the lower social classes." . . . doesn't that represent most Metal fans (and bands), or according to the masses that look down on Metal?
Troncoso - Backbone of every state, country, province etc. And go figure, some get educated, or learn a profession, skill and move up in the world . . . and some become MUSICIANS :O (imagine that? ;).
Trocoso - Sabbath and Priest, from the streets and belching factories (and bombed in the Blitz of WWII) of Birmingham England, and everywhere else that people live through hard times and frustration. We lived the life.
Future possibilities for Lock Horns - you could debate/discuss a single band and their best or most essential albums. Really I'd be more interested in this not for seeing which album or albums "win," but as a way of learning more about a band's career and others' interpretations of it. You could also discuss two newly released albums that are somewhat similar and debate which is better. Again, less about which "wins" but another way to talk about new music without necessarily doing an individual in-depth review.
Posted this comment during the middle of the episode, then saw the next show is on Sepultura's albums. Glad you've already started exploring that idea and hope you do so on future shows.
Hey Sam! I think it would be super cool if you ever got to the point where the show could travel, it could be really interesting and educational and also rad if you came to some cities and did live shows in front of some studio audiences! Denver could be a cool place since its kind of central, maybe a lot of people could travel to see you speak or do a show!
Sam Hi from Auckland, New Zealand...Happy New Year MetaHead...I just wanna say I Tune in when I can and you and the lovely Lisa do a Fantastic Job...my Question is what do you think of the 2 Tracks released of the upcoming New Kreator Album?...could it already be the AOTY...hope so, Cheers Sam and lovely Lisa...keep Head-Bangin' Regards Jaymee NZ
EDIT: Maybe I should actually listen to the whole episode. Holy shit, I NEVER expected that to come up!! I would love to be your guest for the Christian Metal episode. There will be some issues about how to deal with the fact that Christian Metal itself is not a subgenre as far as sonic differences are concerned, but a thematic modifier to already-existing subgenres of metal. They don't combine the sounds of Gospel with bombastic riffage, after all! Or maybe some band should go ahead and do that. If you don't want me, definitely try to get Jayson Sherlock or something.
"The stereotype is that metal is anti-Christian" - the interesting thing I realized recently actually is just how many of the prominent metal figures are low-key Christians at this point. The fact that metal seems to put 'darkness' and kind of a 'heaven vs. hell' question right on the line... perhaps this actually has pushed many metalheads to consider the question. I feel like this was the way Mustaine, and Alice Cooper described their own conversion happening. And then you have Ozzy some years back saying he goes to church, or the fact that Rob Halford says he prays before every show. And Tom Araya, Dan Spitz, Peter Steele, Dee Snyder, Nicko McBrain, etc. etc.
I think that it is time that Lock horns and Banger became more sophisticated, meaning, not that it is not a great smart and cool channel, but it can discuss issues pertaining to a more academic and thoughtful debate e.g. metal and globalization, the place of metal and metal appreciation within mainstream understandings of culture and cultural belonging etc. Could be great especially if these subjects are discussed within the accessible framework of Banger and lock horns.
I would've asked: Sam, are you into proto-metal at all? ;) (I know that covers a lot.) That's my current obsession. Jericho, Highway Robbery, Captain Beyond, Il Revescio Della Medaglia, Sir Lord Baltimore, Warhorse, Night Sun, May Blitz, etc...
Do some shows about different instruments in bands. Like bass players in metal or drummers for example. Would be a really fun episode to watch. But I feel lik the chat would just start a civil war with eachother, almost like every other episode.
As a HUGE Smashing Pumpkins fan, and one who has heard thousands of stories about how much of an asshole Billy Corgan apparently is, it's so refreshing to hear some praise going his way. One thing is for sure about him, dude loves discussing the music and bands that he grew up loving. Also, I have yet to see that Rush film, despite it being on my list for awhile. Now I have another reason (since I didn't know Corgan was part of it).
An idea for a lock horns episode that is not a genre debate: the best/coolest/favorite/most artistic album artwork. For me personally, I like a certain album better if it has appealing artwork. Even before you listen to the music, you will already have formed an opinion about it based on the cover.
I'm going to ask this question now. Sam, why do you keep speaking of Opeth's music pre-Ghost Reveries simply as "Death Metal"? They always had elements of progressive rock in their music. I know they were heavier in their first couple of albums, but those song structures were not pure death metal. They are practically the band that founded the idea of Progressive Death Metal ever since Orchid. So why is it that when you speak of Opeth, you talk as though they were death metal before and went prog later?
How about covering the anti islam bands that are coming out of the middle east itself. any plans of that? though understand that could be a tough one. Band like Seed of Iblis
Can you do a Lock Horns on Social Justice Warriors? I was at the TAAKE show here in Sacramento where people got pepper sprayed by a member of ANTIFA and I would definitely like to here everyone's thoughts on this.
From the first time I watched "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey", I always thought of it as your love letter to metal.
I think that Sam got a really good point there: people who get into metal just because of its rebellion or extremity factors, usually grow out of this style of music quite soon. But the people who like the musicianship and the power, the epicness of metal stay hooked for a long time.
But yeah considering the future of the channel: It would be more than awesome if Sam traveled to Northern Europe to discover more about the metal there, like Swedish (melodic) death metal, Finnish metal, etc.
shit i had to hide my metal cassettes from my parents...so much for rebellion...although now i shove my shirts in their face lol
I was the one who asked about the goal of "Satan Lives." I've been keeping up with Sam Dunn's work since I saw "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" in 2007 as a little middle school girl. I could go on and on about how much I admire Sam Dunn and how his films have influenced me, but I just want to thank you guys for posting and answering my question. The film was not easy to understand at first for me since I thought it would be related to music, like the rest of Dunn's work. Cheers from the Chicago area!
Hey, thanks for reading/answering my question Sam! Keep being awesome. :D
-Ryhan Beard
I've been a fan for around a decade, Sam, and last night I fell into a hole binge watching Lock Horns. This show's awesome, and I fully intend to catch this show on live stream whenever possible! Subscribed.
I am 14 year old Sam, by which I mean I am a 14 year old die hard metal head living in Canada. I personally believe that the rebellious aspect of metal still exists, but in different form, and in a form that requires you to love the music, and not just be in it for the rebellion. Nowadays, metal is still rebellion against mainstream culture, but not so much against mainstream restraints
I'm one of those that believes that metal is anti-religion territory but I'm up for a good debate, bring it on. Also, what happened to the Voivod documentary, you guys really dropped the ball on this one, you MUST honor Piggy.
I am proud to be the first Nebraskan to tune in to a live viewing (yep, that was me). Sam, I'm a big fan of your work and love the show. I'm a newer subscriber but remember your work from Metal Evolution, etc. and it always takes me back to being a teenager jamming out on my bed, dreaming of being Bruce Dickinson, etc. What I love is how you keep things positive and upbeat. I'm about your age and the Metal community has had a bad habit of eating itself alive over the years (this band sucks, this genre sucks, etc.) instead of embracing all of it. We should be all fighting to keep heavy music alive (not that it's going anywhere)!
just came over from 'this exists' he mentioned your show and i'm glad he did. love it!
I didn’t know where else to write to you Sam, but found here. You give justice to the musicians as to their music and their mystic. Thank you brother for ALL the rock docs. I’m not only a fan of music but I’m a fan of the individuals and their stories. You creativeness statices my cravings. Today I finally got to watch the ZZ Top documentary. I’m a huge fan of the band and I was blown away!!! Thank you Sam, keep them coming.👍🏻
Sorry, spelling went wrong. * your creativeness satisfies.
damn sam you really are 42 years old? you like like 32 man no kidding!!! awesome video btw!!!
It's because 42 isn't actually old. Plus, we're evolving and living longer, so 42 may very well be the new 32.
Thanks man! you made my day as i am 42 also. Not old. YEAH! \m/ :D
lol no problem my friend! :)
METAL: The real life fountain of youth
@@Nightbreed82 i agree totally
Proud to have Sam Dunn as our ambassador for metal!
Ahhhh Metalcamp 2010! That festival changed my life, I still go every year :).
BANGER IS BACK FUCK YEAH
Can't wait for Sepultura week!!!!
Keep entertaining your fellow metal-head-nerds man, I definitely dig your perspectives and insights on the genre.
It would be awesome if you did a documentary on King Diamond and Mercyful Fate
Must see footage of Sam in the Meshuggah pit
As for future content I'd like to see episodes or maybe 20-minute segments outlining specific sub-sub genres. Less a debate and maybe more just discussion or documentary-like explaining the history, sonic qualities, and maybe a suggestion list of key albums. Would love to see one on atmoblack in particular.
great show, need more of this type show this year
Beneath the Remains is not only the best Sepultura album, its also one of the best metal albums in history
Passin By chaos ad by a hair. beneath is amazeballs tho
Dudes ! love lock horns ! always looking forward to watching the wednesdays episodes ( 9pm for me as living in the uk ) .Can't wait for the metal channel ! please contact me if you need a translator while interviewing Jean Michel or Christian from GOJIRA (we never hear them ) as a french expat myself i would be happy to offer my services for a sandwich and a cold beer and the chance to meet my current metal heroes .keep it up dudes !! Peace and joy and metal
Thank you so much for answering my question! I really love all you guys and gals do at Banger! You've opened my eyes and ears to new kinds of metal music that I would never have listened to before! I do have another question though: Some people I know have trouble discerning the difference between post-hardcore and metalcore, and I'm wondering if it might then be a good idea to add post-hardcore to the tree at some point? Some post-hardcore bands seem to have influenced many modern metal bands as well as having shifted the genre itself toward a more metallic sound. Bands like At The Drive In, Dance Gavin Dance (recently), Refused, A Day to Remember, The Fall of Troy, and Alesana all appear to be important bands that have made important contributions in some way or shape in terms of influence on modern metalcore/hardcore. Would like to see a post-hardcore episode if you all think it needs to be given the time.
Awesome. Hail Banger TV.
Great show guys!!!
Banger,
Thank God for this chanel and you representing and keeping metal alive.
There have been alot of documentaries done on Zeppelin, Sabbath and BTM on quite a few bands like Metallica,Megadeth,Anthrax. There have not been any proper documentaries done on Slayer or Iron Maiden.
How do you feel about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I think that Motorhead, Iron Maiden,Judas Priest and the other three big 4 need to be inducted before any more hip hop.
Very diplomatic responses. Sam is a smart dude.
He's a cool dude. I like his work. Thank you.
Yes please do Christian metal!!!
nooooo
AlexFlamer444 LIVING SACRIFICE!!!!!!!!!!
....or not...what a joke of a genre just like metalcore
Theocracy it's the only band I've heard that it's worth it.
If you like death metal Mortification had some badass albums
Great start to the new year Banger 🤘🏻
Great episode that - I would like to see a part 2. I would also like to see one with Liisa and find out about her Goth tastes and the book mentioned in this episode.
Awesome CF Monotheist shirt Sam! Love that album.
Maybe an episode about Demos: Which demo tracks are better then the ones on the album. What are the best and most influential demos etc..
Having Iron Maiden as your favorite band and not liking power metal seems bizarre to me.
Maiden and Priest are the godfathers of power metal. What are you on about?
Every metal band is a heavy metal band you dingus....Thats the most vague thing you could have possibly said, which shows you clearly don't know what your'e talking about. Helloween and Blind Guardian take massive influence from Maiden and Priest. You would have to be deaf or not know metal at all to not see the huge connection. And using Metallica and Misfits as a counter argument is just dumb. Those are vastly different bands. Misfits and Discharge aren't even metal! They're punk/hardcore. The point of my original comment still stands. I've never met someone who has said "Slayer is my favorite metal band, but I don't like thrash metal" still haven't met that guy yet.
Thanks for not even trying to reply to my previous comment. Just goes to show you never had anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say. Goodbye.
Iron Maiden sings about irl too.
I'm one of those guys who love iron maiden but never cared for power metal(the only power metal band I listen to is helloween and the only album I really like is walls of jericho because it's thrashy). I really can't explain why I never got into power metal.
You can do an entire season of Metal Evolution on Extreme Metal sub genres. It would be interesting to do an episode of Lock Horns on Middle Eastern Metal.
Great episode, genuine answers Sam. Keep it up.
Since I missed it, I'm going to leave my question here and pray to Odin it gets answered: why do you limit your streams to one hour? It's not like you're on TV and you're going to interrupt other shows, so what's the reason? Happy new year by the way 😄
You're not the first to ask! We find for most shows, at around 45 minutes, the key points of the topic have been exhausted and the chat becomes a list of shouts. Also, our analytics on actual viewer retention don't support making an hour--plus show. We encourage everyone who wants to continue the conversation in these comments after. And when necessary we will do a show part 2. Cheers!
BANGER Thanks for the swift reply, you're awesome! I understand what you're talking about, makes sense to me now. But it got me thinking, have you considered just having a regular old stream, without a particular topic, just you and the chat room? It would be nice to see your faces more than once a week 😊
I love that you guys did the sexism in metal episode, although I also understand (to a degree) the criticism it got. I would really love to see more of these episodes in which metal is discussed within a greater context of 'stuff that human beings do' and even beyond that. Some examples:
1-Politics & societal concerns in metal (I suspect it will be more polarizing than the sexism discussion);
2-Environmentalism in metal (not the most common theme for bands to address but it has been there since the beginning with Black Sabbath and has continued through Testament, Gojira, and recently I heard about the rise of eco-black metal with bands like Wolves in the Throne Room);
3-Religious, philosophical & spiritual traditions in metal (obv christianity is huge, but there are many different approaches (Amenra for example) - and there are also bands that find inspiration from different traditions altogether (Yob for example using Alan Watts voiceovers in their music).
Ultimately a lot of these things I think are at the root of where metal comes from - or in other words, explain the metal phenomenon from a sociological point of view. Personally, this has been something I have always struggled with to understand (what is metal and what is its significance in relation to the rest of the world) and I was only able to find a satisfying 'answer' when I let go of (almost) everything metal in my life and came to realize more about the world and what matters in life (I came back later though, when I had the perspective to put metal in a more appropriate place).
Thanks, love the show, keep up the awesome work!
Kris D
PS check out my post-metal band Shunyata (influenced by eastern spirituality, philosophy and science) ;)
shunyata.bandcamp.com/releases
Desde Colombia, un abrazo. Que excelente y aguerrido trabajo el que hace. Excelente periodismo!!
Gracias, Colombia!
I would like to see more metal from around the globe you should see more local metal bands because there are a lot of great bands that deserve popularity :D
Your Christian metal expert might be Pastor Bob Beeman. He is not in a band, but was one of the earliest promoters of it and is found in the special thanks of MANY Christian albums from bands like Believer, Mortification, Sacrament, etc.
I thought the same, but I KNOW people will just make fun of his friendly demeanor and his "hair" unfortunately. But man, he has seen it all. I was also thinking, maybe get a member of Believer (aren't they from Canada?) or Extol.
Again, Christian Metal covers just about all sub-genres as well :).
***** I'm pretty sure that Believer is from the US. Regardless, I agree that it would be kind of hard to cover all of Christian metal since it does cover all subgenres. However, I would focus mainly on that definitive period of late 80's/early 90's Christian thrash and death metal.
Yes (everything is on "Wiki" :P ) you are right, they are from Pennsylvania.
I also look at it (as I'm sure the bands) that its too bad this . . . denomination, has to be separated from the rest of Metal. Otherwise bands like; Trouble, Kings X, Theocracy, Believer, 7 Days, Tourniquet, Extol, Living Sacrifice, Demon Hunter, Harmony and many others would fit right in with each sub-genre they belong to (Trouble, Believer and Kings X as the strongest exceptions being accepted into the fold for the most part).
And many don't consider themselves "Christian Metal" - but believe in its principles and/or as their personal faith.
BTW - Bob Beeman is surrounded by other pastors that have been in the Metal scene so maybe one of them will step forward as well. Or reach label reps from "R.E.X.", "Tooth & Nail Records", "Solid State" etc. who may know the history.
I just tagged Bob Beeman on this video. I am friends with him and we both live in the Nashville, TN area. I'm looking forward to his thoughts on this.
Matt Frehley - thats great! :D
I invite you to discover the Philippines and it's thriving underground Metal scene here and hopefully it could become a part of the Global Metal sequel.
I've been checking out via streaming, the new Kreator......wow! I can't wait!
Keep up the awesome work for the metal fans. A death and black metal fans home away from home lock horns and up the irons!
how about a guilty pleasures episode? i consider myself a "metalhead" at heart. my favorite bands are exodus, death angel, maiden, testament, hatchet, and so on. but i must say that i listen to queens of the stone age, janes addiction etc, just as much as those other bands. i might even put queens of the stone age as my favorite band. would love to know your favorite guilty pleasure bands or artists and other musicians guilty pleasures. also, loving the show!!! learning alot of things that i wasent privy to. you are my favorite documentarian. horns up forever
No one should have guilty pleasures! Like what you like, just explain what it is you like about it, you don't have to like everything with the same amount of respect and admiration, and if someone judges you because you happen to occasionally listen to some artist they don't, fuck them. Unless your favorite artist is J Cole or Lady Antebellum then I will judge the f u c k out of you..
Do an episode on best books about metal. There's some great stuff, but sometimes it's hard to know the best to start with.
Are there any thoughts on doing a countdown show? Maybe by genre or by decade?
Delightful!
Martin for power, epic, symphonic reviews; yes!!!!!!!!
I feel that banger TV should do a lock horns debate on archgoat albums
here's one for ya Sammy
since you're doing one on the mighty Beneath The Remains, how about an episode on album artists like Repka and Pusshead? I looked up the artist for Sep covers but I need a refresher!! These artists deserve more attention!
Michael R. Whelan. Yeah, the cover of Beneath the Remains is "Nightmare in Red." I got that tattooed on my left shoulder. He also did the cover of Obituary's Cause of Death (got that tattooed on my leg) which was also used by Demolition Hammer and for the cover of some H.P.Lovecraft books. Good show recommendation! I'd like to see that.
I’ve just watched the earache too 15(again), and it took until the second watch to give akerkocke a listen. WTF have I been missing. JHC they’re amazing.
Poison kicks ass. Come at me everyone. I’m ready....
Fav album cover - Sepultura's Arise. I stared at that cover for HOURS... mainly because, back in 'the day', I had it on tape and it was hard to make out all the little details, like the little guy on the plateau.
Ha... and I wrote that comment before I got to the end of this show. ARISE... best Sepultura album in my opinion. Production wise it was miles above the other albums. Song writing is amazing. Album art is great and musically they really hit their stride. I may be a bit biased as well since this was the first album of theirs I had heard. I was 14 when it came out and that was around when I started listening to MY music (not my parents or radio top 10 music). So, being at that impressionable age, this one left a HUGE impression on me. Me and a friend of mine would drop whatever we were doing and head bang when we heard the open E riff in Desperate Cry.... and then continue on doing whatever we were doing, once it was over, as though nothing had happened.
Sam, you are 100% correct - Beneath the Remains is obviously the best Sepultura album. 2nd and 3rd are also obvious with Arise and Schizophrenia going there. In fact, going past 1991 with Sepultura is a waste of ones time. (unless you're into that whole 'groove' thing, then by all means)
That's ridiculous, Roots is a great and highly influential album. After that when Max left and eventually Igor is when they became a waste of time. I only listen to the first what 5 albums with the Cavalera brothers.
I don't give 2 shits if it's influential and whatnot - it's fucking nu metal. Going from Thrash masterclass to mediocre Groove to shitty nu metal is a fucking travesty.
There isn't much rap on Roots, you might want to get your ears checked.
Huuuur no rap, can't be nu metal. What did I expect...
You like it, fair enough; I don't.
Nu metal is a fusion of rap/hiphop and metal....
For 2017 I just want the new Tool album to be real.
Igor Ulbrich news from almost end of 2017: no new tool album yet
2019... still waiting
Got it an its shit
I love all the Opeth albums too...and I bought all the 12 albums in just one year (2016),some of them are special editions.
Would be great if the acoustics and overall sound was better. Bass traps and a few treatments on the walls. love the channel and all of the great content about the music I love. Thanks everyone.
Also hope to Meet you at the Maiden show in July at the Molson A. on the 15th
Hey sam! Would love to see something about the svrf cvlt...
Such a thing to tackle someday
Sepultura is on the board twice....I know why but awesome non the less!!!
you rock Sam!
I've only been to a few concerts so far, but Meshuggah was easily the best. They put on one hell of a show and it was fucking amazing.
Damn straight \m/ Amazing and SCARY ("dude . . . Jens is staring at me, I know he is . . .")!!!
Hear hear!... been to 4 'Shuggah shows and each one was on point!
PHOENIX, AZ!
michiganmikephoenix Mesa Reporting in
i can't think of a better riff than burn deep purple
It’s a pretty great riff !
Iron maiden punk interviews can never be called the worst.
They should make some documentary about metal festivales like metal evolution, something like Festival Evolution and you have Wacken, Bloodstock, Monsters of Rock, Rock in Rio, Hellfest etc.
Watch out for Welcome to Wacken VR - a virtual reality doc from the Wacken festival, coming out later this year.
How about the old Voivod doc? I believe Flight 666 put a stop to that but would love to see, even in unedited format, all that footage. I am originally from the same part of Quebec they are from and it would mean a lot. I believe the footage of Dave Grohl discussing Voivod for more than 20 mins that's found on youtube may be an outage from that, no?
Just find a great show and just some nice stuff for a foreigner to improve my English, fun and clear.
Wow..... You had Sharpie in 1988.....
Can I ask a question here? I wanna know why you guys don't ever review power metal albums. Seems like every review is death, thrash, or prog.
Prog? You think so, I don't think it gets talked about enough (and its more technical bands), but I know Sam is very picky :p. I'm particular about Powermetal too, but I'd rather listen to Powermetal than a couple of sub-genres ;).
"Pleb - an ordinary person, especially one from the lower social classes."
. . . doesn't that represent most Metal fans (and bands), or according to the masses that look down on Metal?
Troncoso - Backbone of every state, country, province etc. And go figure, some get educated, or learn a profession, skill and move up in the world . . . and some become MUSICIANS :O (imagine that? ;).
Trocoso - Sabbath and Priest, from the streets and belching factories (and bombed in the Blitz of WWII) of Birmingham England, and everywhere else that people live through hard times and frustration. We lived the life.
. . . so you enjoy Powermetal a LOT then? Awesome :D.
Ha! The TROLL deleted his comment without saying goodbye :p.
Future possibilities for Lock Horns - you could debate/discuss a single band and their best or most essential albums. Really I'd be more interested in this not for seeing which album or albums "win," but as a way of learning more about a band's career and others' interpretations of it. You could also discuss two newly released albums that are somewhat similar and debate which is better. Again, less about which "wins" but another way to talk about new music without necessarily doing an individual in-depth review.
Posted this comment during the middle of the episode, then saw the next show is on Sepultura's albums. Glad you've already started exploring that idea and hope you do so on future shows.
When will Global Metal be updated with subtitles on iTunes?
Sam seems like a cool dude. And, yes, "Beneath the Remains" is the greatest Sepultura record. It also is my favorite thrash record.
Hey Sam! I think it would be super cool if you ever got to the point where the show could travel, it could be really interesting and educational and also rad if you came to some cities and did live shows in front of some studio audiences! Denver could be a cool place since its kind of central, maybe a lot of people could travel to see you speak or do a show!
Absolutely! In the meantime, we appreciate those of you who "travel" to use each week on the chat!
Roots was influential but CHAOS AD is the Best Sepultura record!
The Electrocist nope
The Electrocist totally agree! chaos ad tanks on the street confronting police bleeding the pleebs. Inside the state war is created.....
Nope
Chaos AD is fucking badass but Beneath The Remains has to be their best overall on an objective level considering songwriting and riffs.
Sepultura!! Awesome! Lock Horns on the best thrash or death metal bassists or rhythm sections?
Sam Hi from Auckland, New Zealand...Happy New Year MetaHead...I just wanna say I Tune in when I can and you and the lovely Lisa do a Fantastic Job...my Question is what do you think of the 2 Tracks released of the upcoming New Kreator Album?...could it already be the AOTY...hope so,
Cheers Sam and lovely Lisa...keep Head-Bangin'
Regards
Jaymee NZ
West auckland? Westie thrasher represent
I love Sam Dunn
Have you done an episode on Christian metal yet?
EDIT: Maybe I should actually listen to the whole episode. Holy shit, I NEVER expected that to come up!!
I would love to be your guest for the Christian Metal episode. There will be some issues about how to deal with the fact that Christian Metal itself is not a subgenre as far as sonic differences are concerned, but a thematic modifier to already-existing subgenres of metal. They don't combine the sounds of Gospel with bombastic riffage, after all!
Or maybe some band should go ahead and do that.
If you don't want me, definitely try to get Jayson Sherlock or something.
I still wish i clould have all those magnets...except for the poison one of course lol
"The stereotype is that metal is anti-Christian" - the interesting thing I realized recently actually is just how many of the prominent metal figures are low-key Christians at this point. The fact that metal seems to put 'darkness' and kind of a 'heaven vs. hell' question right on the line... perhaps this actually has pushed many metalheads to consider the question. I feel like this was the way Mustaine, and Alice Cooper described their own conversion happening. And then you have Ozzy some years back saying he goes to church, or the fact that Rob Halford says he prays before every show. And Tom Araya, Dan Spitz, Peter Steele, Dee Snyder, Nicko McBrain, etc. etc.
I think that it is time that Lock horns and Banger became more sophisticated, meaning, not that it is not a great smart and cool channel, but it can discuss issues pertaining to a more academic and thoughtful debate e.g. metal and globalization, the place of metal and metal appreciation within mainstream understandings of culture and cultural belonging etc. Could be great especially if these subjects are discussed within the accessible framework of Banger and lock horns.
Definitely into that!
I would've asked: Sam, are you into proto-metal at all? ;) (I know that covers a lot.) That's my current obsession. Jericho, Highway Robbery, Captain Beyond, Il Revescio Della Medaglia, Sir Lord Baltimore, Warhorse, Night Sun, May Blitz, etc...
Do some shows about different instruments in bands. Like bass players in metal or drummers for example. Would be a really fun episode to watch. But I feel lik the chat would just start a civil war with eachother, almost like every other episode.
Sam, you were pronouncing Robert Trujillo's last name correctly all along.
...In Argentina the double l is pronounced with an s-h, sh sound.
hi sam have you thought about adding a instrumental metal section?
What about that bass album?
Fuck I missed this. I don't understand the new time because I don't understand the time zones. What time is the future episodes GMT?
As a HUGE Smashing Pumpkins fan, and one who has heard thousands of stories about how much of an asshole Billy Corgan apparently is, it's so refreshing to hear some praise going his way. One thing is for sure about him, dude loves discussing the music and bands that he grew up loving.
Also, I have yet to see that Rush film, despite it being on my list for awhile. Now I have another reason (since I didn't know Corgan was part of it).
Sam is there a chance you would ever do either a documentary or just a short show on shred guitar players ? There are many of us
Only if we could get Yngwie as the host! :-)
that would be pretty awesome to have him do it or Uli Jon Roth
Hard agree that Morbid Angel has the coolest metal logo
An idea for a lock horns episode that is not a genre debate: the best/coolest/favorite/most artistic album artwork. For me personally, I like a certain album better if it has appealing artwork. Even before you listen to the music, you will already have formed an opinion about it based on the cover.
Dan Seagrave would have to be at the fucking top as most consistently perfect for classic death metal.
totally agree!
I made a vid about my experience with sexism in metal and would LOVE to be on a part 2 discussion if it ever occurs.
I'm going to ask this question now. Sam, why do you keep speaking of Opeth's music pre-Ghost Reveries simply as "Death Metal"? They always had elements of progressive rock in their music. I know they were heavier in their first couple of albums, but those song structures were not pure death metal. They are practically the band that founded the idea of Progressive Death Metal ever since Orchid. So why is it that when you speak of Opeth, you talk as though they were death metal before and went prog later?
That Sisters of Mercy shirt tho.
How about covering the anti islam bands that are coming out of the middle east itself. any plans of that? though understand that could be a tough one. Band like Seed of Iblis
hi Sam I'm lost in finding my style could you please guide me on what style of playing I have..
it's Great . .. .
Can you do a Lock Horns on Social Justice Warriors? I was at the TAAKE show here in Sacramento where people got pepper sprayed by a member of ANTIFA and I would definitely like to here everyone's thoughts on this.
I've always wanted to ask Sam about "Skrilex fan" meme but missed the date :(