Warframe | Melee Crescendo Is Not As Good As You Think | BUT WHY ?
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Honorable mention : This arcane is really good on Ash, since his 4 counts as a finisher. You can build for finisher attacks with Ash and his 4 can take it to max without having to actually do finishers, letting you just sit at 12x combo forever without having to worry about maintaining it.
As an Ash main, this info really helps a lot
Thanks, now I'm enjoying Blade Storm even more than ever before
Lets not forget inaros... Pocket Sand GOOOOO!!!
If you're doing a blade storm build I suppose this let's you drop naramon but as bladestorm goes it's been severely bugged since abyss of dagath and does significantly less damage than it should be
@@stanman3192 Didn't they just improve it's melee mod scaling a while before that? That was undocumented iirc.
At least here it does still build permanent combo easily for the sake of just using weapons, perma combo does make melee + gun combos a lot of fun, both built as self-prime dps that can combine forces. At that point Merciless can also work well, which has a bit of extra reload for even more fluidity. Alternatively, melee is also a classic way to use guns with less ammo, dexterity is great for that.
@@Gnurklesquimp2 I'm not sure when since I didn't play blade storm ash till some time mid April but after abyss of dagath dropped blade storm no longer received scaling damage on its finisher damage from what melee weapon you used, it's incarnon perks, or the mods on the weapon. It seemed to only scale off of strength and ability buffers like savage silence and roar and combo count. Now after whispers in the wall it seems to scale better but it still seems to not be affected by melee choice or mods or incarnon perks, it just suddenly scales in damage now but it's still vastly weaker to what it was earlier this year where it would kill SP 195 eximus heavy gunners in 1 finisher to now in its current state of taking 3 finishers to just kill a standard heavy gunner. This also is done with max combo, innodem, and with savage silence. So as it is it's very weak, I use to bring it to level cap since the finishers could kill level cap enemies very well but now it's barely sufficient to even take out base star chart enemies.
TL;DR: Sell now, because people are..... people. ;)
Yeh…. Sure… do that that’s the take away from this T.T *stares in pseudo exalted*
😂😂
@@RavlinWasTakenbut only 1 is enough, sort of
I love making 400 plat off these arcanes because people are hungry metaslaves
This is real. Love that I made a couple thousand plat selling a grimoire riven. Maybe those things will get a buff, but tomes do nothing for me
I wanted it for the same reason some people love the ceramic dagger, stat stick. Just build it up and have infinite combo for the rest of the mission for abilities that can't even use heavy attack to eat the combo. It also means I can use any melee and not just the ceramic dagger for this now with potentially better results.
Like a Magister Incarnon
Thank you Mr. Gentlemanz! Always a treat to see *someone* not screaming our ears off about how 'insane' the newest whatever is. It's nice to get new stuff, but you keeping a cool head and explaining it normally is a breath of fresh air. Thank you! ONce again, I'd like twice if I could.
The things people do for TH-cam Clicks is Down right Hilarious Some Times. 🤣
@@lookalike4805 Ain't that the truth. Always refreshing to see MC *not* do that
Its probably best used for glaives, since they only require heavy attacks every few seconds, but tbh at least glaive prime will kill anyway, no matter whether you are at 2x, 5x or 12x combo
Possibly also useable in conjuction with secondary outburst for permanent 240% crit chance and damage
Ow you said arcane crecendo dont need combo and free crit?
And wolf sledge
It's perfect for ceramic dagger + outburst on Mesa, desert storm for baruuk, etc. Never even considered for a moment to use this in normal melee builds. Duplicate is far better for that.
Yup, first thing that came to my mind is stat stick without naramon. Doesn't even need high combo duration, red crit baruuk has become slightly easier.
Duplicate is pretty terrible as well, it's a maximum bonus of 2x that is just about the exact same bonus as simply hitting orange crits... and that's in the *best* circumstances. Anything with slightly less or slightly more than exactly 100% CC makes it actively worse than even just double damage.
@@CollateralKaos You ignore the fact that duplicate also rerolls for status procs as well.
@@gj8622 and no status proc you get will change anything. A double damage hit slash proc (such as by getting an orange crit) will deal the same as 2 normal damage slash procs. Hell, if you get a double damage slash vs a slash and Viral it's the same.
So no, doesn't matter, and even if it did its not even remotely enough to make up for it being practically useless on over 3/4 of the best melee simply by not working with orange and red crits
@CollateralKaos Right about the slash, but wrong about literally any other proc dude. Getting 2 viral vs 1 is a substantial damage difference.
technically this applies to all heavy attack builds: too much wind up speed means your combo might not cap out between heavy attacks. It's a funny, paradoxical issue where more becomes less after a certain point, but generally you don't have to care.
Also kullervo's 75% heavy attack efficiency can really help if you don't want to sacrifice space on your builds.
That's super handy to know, it's nice to have variety of views on new stuff, thanks for the helpful video MC!
I’m sure I’m not the only one who thought of this when this was seen. Personally what I want to use this arcane for when I finally get a rank 5 or even a rank 3 or even 2 is in combo with Mesa. There’s a secondary arcane called secondary outburst which converts the combo multiplier into critical chance for secondary weapons including her peace makers. I also found it works on parazon finishers which I do a lot in survivals so, if you are able to get the full 12x combo you can have a free crit chance buff constantly for the entire mission for her peace makers. I also want to try this on Titania and hildryn.
I personally also want to use this for pseudo exalts more specifically Gara since she doesn’t build combo using her shattered lash so it would be more convenient to have it permanently for the rest of the mission. You don’t need it for khora or atlas tho since they don’t have that problem. I kind of also want to try using it on baruuk since it’s hard to maintain combo on desert wind since the combo is of the fist and not the desert wind ranged attack.
Overall though yea I agree with your points outside of these set ups which take advantage of combo it’s more for convenience, imo it would be better for most standard melee builds to choose anything that ups dmg like exposure or animosity.
Great video thanks.
How did it do with baruuk ?
A use case I could possibly see is maybe using furax wraith with its amalgam mod and this arcane to pair with secondary swap as a mesa or titania support
arcane is called secondary outburst and drops from duviri if anyone was wondering
outburst is definitely the best option for this because if you enjoy slamming your head against walls you can get 40 finisher kills with the venka prime and have basically a permanent 260% crit chance and crit damage
This thing is Expensive....
I should have Bought it before People Realised it was Good (and it just got even Better)
@@lookalike4805 bot comment?
Nevermind... Cracked open. 61 Duviri Arcane Bundles and got 18 Outbursts....😎
This arcane is gonna be perfect for my Arca Triton build. I usally run it with a silence loki, so only half the kills are heavy slams (the other half is finishes to charge up the weapon passive). Seems like it will be fun
Thank you for adressing the problem. What crescendo SHOULD do is freeze your combo counter at where it's at.
Cosidering it's as hard to get as energize, I deem that fair.
I tried and tested a finisher-based pennant setup and this arcane just sucks in comparison to cheaper ones and tennokai, despite tennokai not being my go-to on pennant.
Also the Tandem Bond + Melee Guidance + Any heavy attack efficiency setup gives you a perma 12x combo multiplier that doesn't deplete from heavy attacks.
Sure it requires some tedious waiting for your companion to actually land any melee attacks, and completely disintegrates if somebody else on the squad is doing anything that'll affect your combo duration, but still... :P
Not anymore
One thing you gotto keep in mind, for Mesa, is that if you use this in combination with Ceramic Dagger, you 'start' the mission with 166 combo (not counting riven). That's only 56 combo away from max, meaning you only need to perform 10 finishers to reach cap. This is ofc true for all frames.
If it's working correctly, it should be superfast on Prolonged Paralysis Valk. Or other frames that can do mass ground attacks. edit: Oops, replied to the wrong comment
"10 finishers with a maxed arcane", which is worth 2000 platinum just for 240% cd,cc instead of 180%
With the aura Ready Steel and an Initial Combo riven for Ceramic Dagger you can completely ignore Crescendo
Huh? how is this a problem? the only thing that would change here is swapping out corrupt charge and have heavy attack efficiency instead of initial combo count on a riven instead.
does +combo count stat affect how fast the combo builds up ? that might be useful since we have mods like quickening, which already provides attack speed, true punishment and the combo count from naramon's opening slam which can speed up the increase. i think this mght b eworth looking into
Yeah, I really only thought about running it on a finisher build for daggers, where you'll be able to periodically add in a super strong Heavy Attack when you don't get your finisher or something
this bring me back to the idea of the best glaive riven + initial combo + heavy attack effi harmless negative
Oh damn thanks. I was planning to go for something like this but didn't know how long it'd take to 'regenerate' the combos after a heavy. That's a darn shame.
There's also the problem of actually building the combos using finishers. Sure there are frames that can set up finishers incredibly easily, but it will take 37 of them (assuming R5) to get the full 220 combo count. So, you gotta wonder: is the average player, the one that only cares about killing things as "quickly and efficiently" as possible, actually going to go through the whole rigamarole of getting those 37 finishers? 9 times out of 10 that answer's going to be no.
It's definitely one of those arcanes that works best on one specific frame (in this case, Ash) rather than a BiS for all frames
That's the problem with most People... The have *Zero Imagination* 👀
They see this Arcane and Think "Ash" but I see this Arcane and Think "Booben, Gyre, Mag, Nidus & Zephyr."
Because this Arcane is Triggered by *ALL* finish Types. And all 5 Warframe's I just listed up there can perform*Ground Finishers* Faster than Ash's Shadow Clones can do Standing Finishers.
Mag is So Good at this you can Max out the Arcane very early into any Exterminate Mission.
Booben can Do it in the First Round of ESO. 👀
@@lookalike4805 zero imagination or plat? The reason I'm thinking ash is because ash can abuse even rank 0 acane and get 220 combo quickly
@Emreakca
Congrats on ignoring everything I just wrote. 😐
Sigh...
@@lookalike4805 no I won't do 220 ground finishers on any frame
I got it recently and i intend on using it on my ceramic dagger for mesa with secondary outburst for that juicy crit, ye i could use it on any other weapon on that set up but ceramic already gets like x9 so i only need to supply the rest with finishers
There might be a unique use with that one secondary arcane that stacks crit chance and damage based on your combo count
Probably useful on Atlas’s Landslide, Baruuk’s 4 and Excal’s Slash n Dash. Also potential synergies with Secondary Outburst.
The heavy attack crit chance one is nuts. Heavy attack builds can get tier 5 crits without frames like Kullervo. Free 12x combo heavy attacks are very fun to build for. I have it on my tenet livia, it uses 86 capacity to run what I have but it's uber powerful. (Could be less with umbral forma but I don't need to umbral forma it with 90 capacity.)
It has both sacrificial mods (yes both because you'd be losing 110% CC on heavy attacks and some extra damage)
Gladiator might
Amalgam organ shatter (not sure if the speed stacks with tennokai yet, and that .1x CD might actually be a difference with such a high crit tier)
Blood rush (obviously)
Berserker fury (some much needed attack speed, run primed smite if you have a way to increase attack speed).
Primed Fever Strike
Condition overload (not sure if primed smite would be better than CO)
The tennokai exilus with crit damage on heavy attack
The arcane that gives CC for killing shit
We don't need weeping wounds as we're using a secondary primer, and heavy attacks have a guaranteed slash proc.
If you have a riven roll for CC, CD, range, or speed, and negative something (heavy attack efficiency?) Replace riven with Gladiator Might or Berserker Fury depending on stats. I have 60% cold progenitor for viral, mainly because I can strip armor and do an extra 75% damage to health.
I mainly use it for taking down priority targets, swapping pauses the combo duration.
Following on from this video could a bit why video be done about how combo counter works in Warframe and why it's so good for heavy attacks?
I personally plan to use it for pseudo exalted sticks.
This does sound like it could lead to some very cool hybrid setups, assuming normal hits after a heavy = crazy combo buildup.
I feel its more consistent on setup melee builds, ones that use larva, pull or airstream to clump up since ground finishers do count for the arcane
And the setup also takes time, so you can take the whole combo more consistently
Also, if youre using that arcane give preference to parry since itll help you getting those finishers too, and the tennokai would be redundant as the biggest reward is not using your combo counter
It's extremely good for meme builds with the Bronco augment mod
I completly agree on the part that the whole "the combo needs to regen" part of initial combo setups is annoying. But in this patch we also got a new Heavy Attack Efficiency mod in form of Focus Radon.
So we have 2 Heavy Efficiency mods that also contribute to the general damage output of the weapon, same as Focus Energy. It also opens the modding and build options up, since you dont have to worry about the combo duration anymore. So you dont need to use the Naramon Focus school anymore or waste mod slots on Drifting Contact and the like.
Its definetly not a "best in slot" option for every melee weapon, but its definetly very solid.
The arcane is great, if you do long term runs, or have an option to stun a large crowd and use melee or parazon finishers on them.
Then with an r5 you could technically get to x12 for always until the mission is over.
From what i have tested in the simulacrum
I had no idea that it regenned on a timer, I always assumed things that granted initial combo as a static floor. Huh. Learn something new every day on this channel :D
If Ash in his fourth ability in Prague and finish your kill stacks I could see this being a very useful arcane for Ash in demolition
I can imagine its probably better for hybrid, if not, light attack builds. Like, as a lil QOL thing that your combo never goes away, without the weapon needing to be combo pausing and having the drawbacks of that. For example my valkyr for steelpath would like that for consisten combo uptime to have gladiator might at full strength at all times. But thats about it, not worth putting 100 platinum into i would say, if it was being sold for 50 or lower, might be worth considering, otherwise, i sleep
I think this arcane is genuinely amazing for endurance content, but will definitely not be my daily driver. You can run Vaz and void snare to apply ground finishers on enemies and prestack it, but that only seems worth it when enemies scale into the thousands.
Absolute beast for a red crit Mesa build
Looks good for builds that use combo count stat sticks, for example; my boy Baruuk with ceramic dagger and the gladiator set
I'm almost Certain this will Bug out a Few Seconds After Activating Serene Storm 👀
the benefit of this mod is exalted abilities that benefit from melee mods, helps a lot there
slapped fortitude on sun and moon on my wisp. nice to have some more armor.
the mag vortex(forgot what it was called) one i slapped on my khora. havent used it yet. sad
Use it on a karyst built to just slash/tox and have a touch of death.
Thank you for the video good sir !
This Arcane sounds cool, but just because of how combo works, it ends up being probably not nearly as applicable as was maybe intended.
Maybe one day if Initial Combo is reworked not to stack as slowly, or we get mods to increase the speed, this would be worth it in some missions, but it just feels weird that we kinda got another one of these buffs that requires you to do a lot of something that you'll either just do normally or have to go out of your way to do in order to be slightly more efficient at something that you're clearly not struggling to do. It's like the new Secondary crit chance archon shards, unless you run multiple of those, but wouldn't you rather just use something else in those slots? If your Secondary can kill those enemies to stack up the shard, then you prolly don't need the crit chance in the first place , and it only helps you in longer missions where you stay to stack up kills.
Like, sure, theyre good, but I'd rather equip something that's more universally applicable to all parts of the game, instead of something that's only really good in 20 minute Survivals where it has a lot of time and enemies to stack up.
I'd rather just run Dexterity on one of my guns if I need more combo sustain, it's not as good as Naramon, but it's really not that bad.
Sure, this Arcane is neat for minmaxing Disruption with a heavy attack build, and probably on Ash too, but i cant think of another time where performing finishers for initial combo would be better than running pretty much any other Arcane.
Being niche isn't necessarily a bad thing, but being niche and legendary, just kinda sucks, I think I'd honestly be pretty disappointed to get this over anything else from Netracells, but it wouldn't be a bad regular drop from the boss.
So this might be good for a hybrid build for light and heavy attacks, then. If you're only attacking every 5 or 6 seconds. But yeah, stuff always gets overhyped. Not surprising this is also getting overhyped too. When I saw the patch notes, I was thinking about how much setup it would actually take to make effective use of it.
That's what tennokai is for! XD
Is there any reason to have initial combo work like this? I really hope it gets changed at some point in the future, as this is just plain annoying.
I only use Melee Animosity, Exposure or Fortification with the new system depending on what I feel like running everytime I read Melee Crescedo i'm like that Tooltips a lier now if it keeps the 12x220 mutiplier after every heavy attack then i'd be like hell yeah but it don't nor how i'd want it to work but that would be extremally busted but I like using the ones I stated before Animosity with my Syam and the other 2 with my Zaw that can run a Exodia Force/Contagion + the melee arcane
edit: I also love how the 225 tau blue shard armor + Melee Fort + Arcane Reaper all stack xD
edit x2: but I could see Melee Crecendo being super good if you ran the Tennokai Discipline's Merit since Tennokai procs costs 0 Heavy attack combo counter and its every 4 hits
Thank you, someone finally points this out lol. Some people don't know this is a thing because they think of combo has something you have, or you don't. They don't ever have to think about the regeneration because normally people only get 4x initial combo at most
Might get nerfed, but you can use vazarins 2nd ability to get ground finishers in a group. Means, you can use it on kullervo, and well, yeah, everything dies
Melee crescendo would be good with glaive, ash, and secondary outburst.
Zenistar on my Excal will gladly benefit.
Honeslty, i feel like that arcane was made for Ash, he will always have the x12 and will only use his 4 ability and that's pretty much about it... Also it should work with sleep Equinox if there is no nullifier or eximus, and of course, with Baruuk. Also, you don't have to do heavy attacks at all if you just use your normal mele for the rest of the missions, heck, that's why we have tennokai now
this is very good on pseudo exalted weapon. especially at max rank, and on skill that doesn't generate combo by itself, like Gara
Gara also doesn’t repeatedly use hers, unlike Khora for example. It’s an extremely strong arcane, it’s just a matter of understanding how and where to use it.
You have to spend so much time building it up that I dismissed it once I realized that. I'd say a good comparison is Arcane blessing, for a normal mission you aren't going to get 50 health orbs just like you won't get 50 or so finishers but will work you have a build that makes it effortless like dispensary or Nekros. Its probably going to be similar to that. The other comparison I have is the factor that it says finisher, like it exists sure but is hardly used.
i think it should be for hit for a max of extra 50 - 20 combo not for finishers
Only reason I want this is for Mesa synergy with outburst
When i thought about this arcane i was thinking that this would be good for stat sticks since you aren't using the melee
i thought it's just visual, huh, but then again, i haven't made a build with more than 100 initial combo yet
Okay so have a smidge of patience for the argued-against intention, you know I can see how that would be an issue for most.
Have you tested to see if the combo building up is just a visual effect like nidus stacks taking some time to "catch up".
You can see it is not when you have stacking mods like Blood Rush. It will slowly count up the stacks on your buff bar as your combo is regenerating
Initial combo has been a thing for a while now especially with some riven mods. People have tested that and found that you do indeed snapshot the initial combo you are at when you do the heavy attack, rather than your actual maximum initial combo.
My falcor used to have enough initial combo to have 5x, but i realized i had to wait a bit for it to regenerate and since its a fast glaive, i would use it when it was 3 or 4x so i was wasting some of that.
@@Darthmufin Yes, its also fairly obvious when using blood rush on incarnon ceramic dagger, as the crit tiers will be all over the place
@@MCGamerCZ Damn, they should change it to be only visual. A lot of the legendary arcanes these days are quite lackluster (secondary shiver).
the thing that i find difficult is to execute finisher constantly without you using a frame that has “finisher ability”
The question is, is Ground Finisher still counted as finisher because sometimes ground finisher still not counted as finisher?
This works like a god dam wonder on ash for his 4. Turns him into an instant kill for basically anything
it also drops by the fragmented one by chance (I don't think anyone will farm him just for this)
The main use i saw for this arcane was stalker oddly enough.
As far as i can tell, he is the only character whose ability is directly a finisher, with that being his 1. It counts for diviri decrees afterall. And with a combo of his 1 and 2 being great for clearing large groups of enemies easily, even in steel path.
This arcane allows the player to maintain his combo easily, even in the low tense moments.
Meaning the only value i see here, is in a hard mode of 1 activity.
If he is playable outside of duviri, then it will have more use to me.
So the only problem is the combo recharge time ?
An effective cooldown between big attacks isn't really a deal breaker for me tbh
I dont see this not working on heavy attacks as a huge draw back when this makes Status and Crit chance melee weapons always at full potential. Also consider the fact that the x12 combo not only boosts your warframes psuedo exalted crit chance. But also their power in general. To me thats pretty crazy. And the glaive awell. So what you have to wait a little bit for it to recharge. Do you Really need to spam glaive. If you want to use heavy attack builds the meta is already niche and limited for that. But still better than nost of the melee arcanes
having
Slap it on Innodem to take adv of the finisher dmg, and just use Ash seem like the best case scenario. Like how arcane trickery is Ash's arcane, this feel similar.
It's not 👀
I hope they change how Initial Combo works. I don't think, when they designed it, that they ever thought they'd have to account for numbers higher than, like, 40 or 50.
Remember: the "Parry" mod opens enemies up for finisher 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I mean heavy attacks efficiency mods exist?
Id imagine the problems you mention wouldnt exist for kullervo because iirc he has innate heavy attack efficiency, stack it with HA efficiency mods and you would actually always stay at 12x combo
You forget it's function for pseudo exalted. Ceramic dagger initial combo + this arcane
Yeah it can do that but u still need to do finishers. Khora atlas and Gara don't have a constant way of doing finishers so you would need something else to facilitate that in the build.
@@bradleymallard6347unless you remember that bronco exist with its mod
Honestly though, I'd want to use the dagger and the electric aoe arcane, it looks like it works with sudo exalteds. Edit: didn't get a proc testing but the corrosive one did
@@bradleymallard6347Naramon on it's own can let you do finishers, so it's really not hard to do on those frames
@@bradleymallard6347”Parry” is an exilus mod now, getting finishers is not an issue
well heavy efficency does help it but yeah its meh
influence and vortex tho sheesh those are good
Sold one for 85 plat yesterday. No regrets at all
Ya i'm annoyed about the iverhyping of the arcane too, because I do want one, but it's because with my ceramic dagger riven and build with secondary outburst one finisher at r5 would give me 12x combo. This arcane isn't really good outside of that imo. I will stay sad and suffer becasue I refuse to spend that much on an arcane im only being to be using on 1 warframe not matter how much I use her.
This is just recently becoming a problem in WF, so I feel like DE might do something about it soon
Or maybe they wont, who knows
Maybe itll be a passive eventually or smth idk
I’ll use it for a meme Varuna build
I found people selling the arcane for 20 platinum because they couldn't determine how to properly price it. I have a rank 2 crescendo.
what is tenno Kai?
So, what you're saying is this is the perfect arcane for frames with pseudo exalts that aren't used super frequently, like Gara stacking splinter damage.
I'll take 50.
all i saw from this arcane was another ash arcane to go with trickery. didnt think about tenokai builds
yeah its kinda broken, I got it in the first week and run an ash setup with the innodem for oneshot to acolytes/demolist and ash 4 for nuke
How does it interact with Pseudo exalteds?
It works
They should change the name of initial combo, because intial implies baseline. So if its not instant then its not initial.
WOULDN'T THIS BE GOOD FOR STAT STICKS THROUGH?
So DE needs to add a mod that increases initial combo build up speed for this thing to be more useful
There's a "combo count chance" stat that can be affected by a couple things, namely the melee mod "Quickening", and rivens
@@tomd1826 yeah but the idea was not wait 5 seconds for it to recharge back up to 220 combo count. Quickening still needs you to attack with light attacks instead of nothing but heavy attacks witch I guess kullervo and heavy attack efficiency help out as well.
I think people underestimate this arcane , its very easy to get 12x with just 1 single arcane of these . You just need to group enemies up and use groundfinischers. Combine this with gladiator mods and it can be pretty good
So to clarify the regen is not visual?
No... It actually is regening actual combo that slowly.
I just want to use it on a stealth build
Sold mine pretty early on for 100 plat, will most likely come down in price in a few weeks
Unlikely considering it's not Farmable. 👀
I completely understand where you're getting at and you make some valid points but i personally disagree with the part where you said that tennokai is better because sure it prevents combo from being consumed however you're kinda put at the mercy of RNG and when tennokai does appear its only there for a tiny window of opportunity now yes there are mods that counter some of the weaknesses of tennokai however they don't change the fact that i'd still choose using a gun over melee Because melee is just too demanding if you want it to be doing big dmg but hey... thats just my opinion so if you like tennokai's sloppy RNG mechanic then more power to you.(again ik mods that counter that exist i just don't think it REALLY fixes tbe problem)
Another thing: I do completely agree about the arcane not being worth like between 150-200p per unranked its a pretty stupid price.
Melee exposure ftw
Very helpful ill just sell it for tons of plat i need it anyways
Is it Good for ash?
kinda but ur 4 already gives combo count so not that needed
glaive prime with 12x combo goes brrrr
dude just explained even initial combo regenerates at 40/s after being spent, which you the rate you atack means you only get 3x combo lol
@@Emreakca- so the best for glaive prime prob melee duplicate?
Melee duplicate i hear doesn’t have any effect on melee weapons modded for 100cc or higher.
Was going to sell my R3 quickly but figuring it has to be a bug
nope, thats intentional. it says "base" critical hits, and even specifies in the patch notes that it will not apply for orange or red crits
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Well if you have 101% cc and that disables the effect for the 99 out of 100 attacks then the thing is still bugged if it doesn't proc on those yellows
Of all the melee arcanes I am most interested in Melee fortification myself. I always struggle with survivality, especially my Khora always just dies, so being able to get more armor through melee is more interesting to me than getting combo a bit quicker.
Its also flat armor which is a godsend for frames that don't have very much base armor
It's not worth it. Khora isn't a good frame for tanking and it's better to use shield gating on her
I think overgaurd would scale better tbh, I would run it if it used that lol
210 armor is dogshit ngl
Tbh either use Catalysing Shields and do a shield gate build or do a shield tanking build.
Currently my Khora uses a shield tanking build and I've yet to run into any actual issues because she kills everything before they can hit her. Who needs defence when everything is dead?
Just wait until you get to duplicate, at least crescendo can reach more than an *absolute maximum* of 2x even in perfect conditions... unlike the mediocrity that is duplicate
That said, you can absolutely use this to replace a mod slot for initial combo in heavy attack builds (even waiting half a second for 4x will get you more damage + a mod slot), stat sticks so there is no need for combo, and other things that combo can help with while not actively using the melee (namely secondary outburst or the such).
Now make a video on duplicate please