@@tomsmith4542 This is your problem. Why did you try to invade Anatolia then? You guys got bigger even after the Moria rebellion. Because "some" countries encouraged you to do the dirty job instead. You can see the same parallels today.
Ataturk doesn’t get enough credit in the west. He led a defeated country that had been brought to its knees to victory, and created a new modern and enduring democracy that has always contested by Islamists including the current t one
@@KeyUploads2ataturk(its a rumour word and not Real, propaganda aby ısraeli supporters)said:the Turkish Mehmetçik army will from now on won't die to the Arabs in gaza,medina,Syria and Baghdad.
@@julia2k8it's the war of salvation, the turk is not being colonize and wanted to be free, they wanted their land back that the west has stolen from the treaty
@@hera5299 Nasıl yok? Biz bir devlete mi bağlıydık da onlardan ayrıldık? Mevcut bağımsızlığımız tehdit altındaydı ve ülkeyi işgal etmekte olan düşmanlardan kurtardık. Aradaki farkı anlamak çok mu zor acaba.
I have an entire series of lectures on the Ottomans. Including the events that led to their fall. They fell into the trap of many civilizations. Overextending themselves, bad rulers, failure to modernize until it was to late. The Tanzimant period for example. And of course other factors such as the growing desire by people to be independent, Greeks, Armenians etc.
Ofcourse according to a European/Western you will consider Ottomans as bad rulers, since people from diffrent culture and religion conquered you and ruled you for centruies. However when it comes to French,British rule around Africa then you don't consider them as bad rulers right ?
I am Turkish. In 1900, my grandfather served in the military in Yemen for 5 years. We Turks have fought from front to front for the Ummah for 1000 years. But now the situation has changed. We don't have a drop of blood to shed for traitors. They have lawrence 💔💔💔
@@user-988-Faurikardeş değiliz araplarla hiç bir zaman da olmayacağız bir öğrenemediniz bunlardan kardeş dost olunamayacağını. kendileriyle bile anlaşamayan millete nasıl kardeşiz dersin. genelleme yapmayın kişisel olun siz kimseyi temsil etmiyorsunuz
@@user-988-Fauri öncelikle Türk bile değilsin ona göre konuşacağım ülkedeki dini veriler gerçeği yansıtmıyor geçen aralık ayında yapılan kapsamlı bir ankette %69 oranında müslüman olduğu görülmüştür ki bu zaten belli bir şey çoğu laiktir. müslümanlar olanlar bile dindar değillerdir kırsal kesimler hariç. siz araplarla birleşmek fikri aklımızın ucunda bile değil tam tersi sizi ülkeden göndermek için çaba sarf ediyoruz :d erdoğanın diğer islam ülkeleriyle olan tutumu ise sadece algıdır ve göz boyamadır yoksa herkes ne olduğunu çok iyi biliyor. bu arada bu söylemlerinize ek olarak bence önce kendi milletinizle birleşmeyi deneyin bize söylemek yerine kendi içinizde bile anlaşamayan bir milletsiniz. sizinle hiç bir zaman birleşmedik birleşmekte istemiyoruz. biz Türküz gerisine gerek yok. sorunlarımız da sadece bizi ilgilendirir sizi değil umarım açıklayıcı olmuştur
Greeks always has played victim in spite of their violence against to millions of Ottoman civilians in Mora in 1821 ,Crete island in 1821 ,Balkan wars, 1912-1913, invasion of Minor Asia 1918-1922.And their violence by Cyprus-Greece Enosis ,Eoka and Greek Junta violence against to Turkish Cypriots 1960-1974.
@@MegrelMamba Firstly Look your country’s history,Native americans, Vietnam,Iraq,Syria etc….Also Ancient times Greek colonized to all Mediterranian area after fall of Troya.Constanstinople was belong to Tracians,All Egean Lands and Cyprus belong was belong to Native Anatolians as Troyans, Lycians, Lydians , Carians ,Hittites etc…
@@Sirius-VoyagerAll of what you said is wrong. When constantinople was created the thracians were long gone it was roman territory which evolved into the eastern roman empire. Rhe aegean islands have always been populated by greek civilazations such as the cycladic and minoan, cyprus was never lydian the first people there were myceneans and hittites who migrated there together but i dont see any hittites anywhere.
Turks indeed had a decisive role in triggering historical major events like the Migration Period, Crusades, shaping the history of Balkans, Islamization of Northern India, Age of Discovery as well as ending the Middle Ages with the conquest of Constantinople, fall of the Roman Empire
The statement you provided is not entirely accurate. While Turks have played a significant role in various historical events, attributing all of these major events solely to Turks is oversimplifying history.. Migration Period: The Migration Period was a complex historical period during which various tribes and groups, including the Huns, Goths, Vandals, and others, migrated and contributed to the fall of the Western Roman Empire. While the Huns, led by Attila, were of Central Asian origin, they were not Turks. Crusades: The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christian and Muslim forces. While Turks, specifically the Seljuk Turks, were involved in some aspects of the Crusades, the conflict was much broader, involving various European and Middle Eastern powers. Shaping the history of the Balkans: The history of the Balkans is shaped by multiple ethnic and religious groups, not just the Turks. The Ottoman Empire, which was of Turkic origin, did have a significant impact on the region, but it was a complex interplay of factors that determined the course of Balkan history. Islamization of Northern India: The Islamic conquest of Northern India was carried out by various Muslim dynasties, including the Ghaznavids, Ghurids, and the Delhi Sultanate, who were not of Turkish origin. The Turks did play a role in later periods, such as the Mughal Empire, which was of Mongol-Turkic origin. Age of Discovery: The Age of Discovery was primarily driven by European explorers and navigators who sought new trade routes and territories. While Turks had an empire during this time (the Ottoman Empire), they were not the main drivers of European exploration. Conquest of Constantinople and the fall of the Roman Empire: The conquest of Constantinople in 1453 marked the end of the Byzantine Empire, but the fall of the Roman Empire in the West had occurred in 476 AD, long before the rise of the Turks. The fall of the Western Roman Empire was influenced by a variety of factors, including economic, political, and military issues.
Truly said. The conquest of Constantinople in 1453 forced the Europeans to go to their trading partners by or the other way and in 1492 they reached America, in 1498 they reached India, in 1500 they reached Brazil and in 1542 they reached as far as Japan.
@@s1002546 First of all the Huns were a Turkic people who led the migration period, Huns & the Hunnic language being Oghur Turkic has been the academic consensus for decades, with the fields top scholars Heinrich Menges, Pulleyblank, Pritsak, Maenchen-Helfen, Hyun Jin Kim, etc. all agreeing on that, Alp Arslan's conquest of Anatolia from the Byzantines is also seen as one of the pivotal precursors to the launch of the Crusades. Many Turkic empires such as, Ottoman Empire, First Bulgar Empire, Second Bulgar Empire, Avar Khaganate, Hunnic, empire eventually Gepid dynasty (ruled by Turkic Huns, the tribe was Germanic) etc.. also partly by Goldenhorde and Cumans. The Ghurid army had significant Turkic soldiers, which led the foundation of Delhi sultanate which eventually got ruled by 5 dynasties whom 3 where Turkic (Khalji, Tughlag, Memluk) also Bahtiyar Khalji (Turkic warlord) is responsabel of the Islamization of Bengal whom he conquered with just only 18 men. The Fall of Constantinople led the shaping of Discovery even The western Roman Empire got conquered by Turkic Huns 😹😹😹
The last Sultan was Abdülhamid han the second. Everyone after them was just a pretender a fake. To me the war was lost for the Ottomans when the coup happend against him.
😂😂😂😂 yalansa əlinə verim 😂 vahdettin milli azadlıq hərəkatı dövründə milli azadlıq hərəkatna qarşı çıxıb ingilislərin gtunu yaladigi və xalqa xəyanət elədiyi üçün qaçdı. Bu qədər xəyanətdən, edam fətvalarından sonra özünü təhlükə də gördü ve İngiltere'ye mektup yazdı mən qorxuram təhlükəli vəziyyətdəyəm məni qurtarın deyə.@@y_a_1904_
in the last decades of the empire, the nations rebelled against the empire and had gained independence one by one. The Turks were just the last nation to rebel against the empire, which ended the empire. In the process, wars against the colonists were also won, the invasion having been repelled.
Turks are the empire itself. Turks took control of the empire from the sultan before WW1 too. Sultan was merely a symbloic figure. After WW1 last sultan was just powerless british obeyer.
@@Kaan_is_myname97 by definition, an empire has no official nation, no official language, no official religion. Nothing but a confederation of nations ruled by an emperor, called sultan. An oghuz tribe founded the empire. Then it evolved into something like the continuation of the eastern Roman empire.
Sizi anlıyorum ama ingilizce yazamam Osmanlı bir cok yönetim şeklinden geçti ama en önemli yönetim şekli monarşi idi ve türk aydınları da monarşiye karşıydı ve cumhuriyet fikri o zaman da vardı yani evet imparatorluğa isyan eden son halk türklerdi ama sadece aydın kesim , sıradan halk osmanlı monarşi cumhuriyet ayırt edemior sadece dış güçlerin ülkede olmasını istemiyordu
@@XaterTuyi-vq2jh padişahı İstanbul'u yok sayıp kurtuluş ordularında toplanmaları, tbmm'nin yürütmesine bağlı olmaları bildiğin imparatorluğa başkaldırıdır.
@@Official-Commentsdon’t tell me that your comparing an empire which was founded upon islamic values and was the islamic caliphate for 400 years with a nationalist apartheid state like the 3rd reich Very very big difference between the two , in the ottoman empire all Muslims were equal and had equal rights regardless of their ethnicity, the ottoman empire is an islamic caliphate don’t conflate it with European colonialist empires like the French and the British in which the native people of these empire were superior to others
@@TRofTR as an arab palestanian i really hate those who rebelled against the ottomans most of us hate them they were mostly shia and jordanians and saudis
@@m7mdxd_137يا حبيبي العثمانيين بعد 1909 اصبحت دولة تركيه عرقيه. عزل الاتراك الجدد الخليفه عبد الحميدي الثاني و استبدلو الشريعه الاسلامية بدستور تركي قومي. حتى نحن في اليمن في اواخر أيامهم عملو الاتراك الجدد مجازر. وكذالك جمال باشا عمل مجازر في حق اهل الشام
I use to think like you to, until I done my own research. As I’m a very curious person who likes to research world history. There was a lot of casualties on both sides in Anatolia in 1915 during World War One. It was a civil war which the Armenians started and the Armenians lost. Do your research please. The Ottoman Empire was busy fighting the Allies which includes England, Australia, India, Canada, New Zealand, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, France and French colonies and also supported by Russia in Gallipoli. The Ottoman Empire was also fighting the Russians in the northeast part of the Empire known as the Caucasus, and the Greeks in the southern part of Turkey, whilst the Armenians cowardly attacked old men, women and children in Anatolia, which resulted in a civil war which the Armenians lost. Please do your research. Thank you. It’s about time people did some research and thinking for themselves instead of just accepting what is thrown their way and merely believing what is "popular". The Turkish government invited the Armenian government less then 20 years ago in public to produce all documents, archives and others along with historians and lawyers. That both governments have and open them up for scrutiny, the Armenians remained silent and didn’t accept the offer. From the book - "Armenian Genocide" (And if they had lied to us) Reflections on the Turkish-Armenian tragedy by Yves Bénard. "(When WW1 erupted) All the Turks were drafted. Only the elderly, the women and children, remained in towns and villages. The Armenian militias had been waiting for this moment to implement their extermination plan aiming to obtain the "Great Armenia". Driven by a murderous frenzy, they indulged in barbarous acts of indescribable cruelty, over 500,000 victims were raped, disembowelled, crucified, slaughtered, mutilated, burned or buried, and the villages burned." “The relocation of the Armenian gangs and their supporters, who massacred the Muslim people, including women and children, in eastern Anatolia, was the most reasonable action that could be taken in such a period. The doors of our archives are wide open to all seeking the truth.” In regards to the so called “Death Marches” historians allude that Russia and The Ottoman Empire was on the brink of war in that region of Anatolia during World War One, therefore the civilian population of that region mostly Armenians/Kurdish/Turkish were relocated to the Levant for their own safety. Furthermore The Ottoman Empire ruled with justice and equality to all faiths within its borders, even so much as helping other nations. A few honorable mentions helping the Irish during The Great Famine of 1845 to 1852. The Ottoman Empire sent the Irish $$$,$$$ and ships full of plant seeds and food. They especially sent different types of plant seeds so they can grow their own fresh produce for many generations to come. And therefore it’s an ongoing charity till this day. Because the fruit and vegetables are still producing and growing in Ireland 170 years after the seeds were planted in the earth. “The Irish did not forget this favor and put a crescent and star symbol on the emblem of the city and Drogheda Football Club in 1919.” Another football club located in England's southeast Portsmouth Football Club has the Islamic Star and Crescent on their logo as a sign of respect and gratitude to the generous Ottoman Empire. Even today, a school run by the Royal Navy is called H.M.S Sultan. “Sultan Abdülmecid sent naval officers to Britain, once the world's most powerful marine power, for navigation and artillery training. Two frigates, the Mir'at-ı Zafer (The Mirror of Victory) and Çerağ-ı Bahri (The Light of the Sea) anchored in Portsmouth Harbor.” Also in another part of Europe. “The Deportivo football club, a city on the Spain-Portuguese border, also has an emblem with a crescent and star. Mentioned as "The Turks" by its rivals, Deportivo La Coruna opens a Turkish flag in its matches. According to an account, the youth of Galicia, famous for their bravery, supported Ottoman Admiral Barbarossa Hayreddin Pasha during the struggle against the Portuguese.” As way of keeping the peace on the European continent. The Ottoman Empire helped stop the invasion of Protestant England in 1570, from mainly Catholic Spain and The Netherlands. “The Pope excommunicated Elizabeth I of England and the might of Catholic Europe was against her, an invasion was imminent. English merchants were boycotted from trading with the rich markets of Europe. Elizabeth I of England responded by reaching out to The Ottoman Empire for help.” Stability and security in the Balkans, Caucasus, North Africa and the Middle East was never again the same after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. That’s a fact. “Turkey supports 170 countries with development aid.” th-cam.com/video/6enp2KY7b0U/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Hub-SyAWFCA/w-d-xo.html www.hurriyetdailynews.com/amp/turkey-supports-170-countries-with-development-aid-124284 th-cam.com/video/5IHf_p8z1Gk/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/uKrYq9S9s0U/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/mN7Dtn95OiA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/kNbYo2KqLT0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ezYfYLogFDU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/aNoZtRJ14qE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/7YO5B2JM0PM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/4pHWjRcNe2I/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/HUEXI00rxVY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/fvMZSh85Iik/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/0oGXENYEztM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/wT_Wpdsm5IQ/w-d-xo.html “Turkey has broken the dire record of the country hosting the largest number of refugees in the world.” As of 2016 Turkey is hosting 4.3 million refugees. This number is increasing every day.
hurriyetdailynews is a Turkish Propaganda rag run out of the ANKARA - Anadolu Agency. Are you sayng you used to believe in the ARMNEIAN HOLOCUST and this website had such power information that you couldnt refute and accepted it? DO you think it seems kinda unlikely that history is actually incorrect and all that we know about Armenians is a LIE? Did you find out where they came from>?
Fun fact : Mustafa Kemal’s landing on Samsun in 19th of May was not a coincidence. He actually picked that specific date on purpose. It’s also the anniversary of the first rebellion for independence in turkic history, known as the “Jiucheng Palace raid”
@@relaxbirisi5 sakarya meydan savasi osmanil ve ayaklanan darbeci mustafa kemal hainleri arasinda oldu. sonradan tarihi degistirdiler ve yunana karsi diye yazdilar.
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The Ottoman Empire is actually a Balkan centered state. It was not possible for it to continue its existence after losing the Balkans. If they had proceeded with a planned downsizing, we might be talking about different maps today. The army was spread over a very large area. It was extremely difficult to control and resupply. Instead, it was most logical to defend the Balkans and Anatolia and its surroundings. If they had sensed the danger coming from the Arabian deserts beforehand, we might have been talking about other things.
@@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced The Ottomans invested more in the Balkans than in Anatolia. The Ottoman elite was generally of Balkan origin. The educated population was in the Balkans. leading schools were generally in the Balkans. The Balkans were important for the Ottomans in terms of food. In short, the influence of the Balkans in the Ottoman state administration was very high. Anatolia had less influence. On the other hand, the ethnic Turkish population was larger in Anatolia, but they did not have much of a say in state administration. By the way, the Ottomans conquered the Balkans before Anatolia :)) It took longer for him to dominate Anatolia. Because there were many small Turkish states.
@@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced anatolia was mainly treated as a backwater, a mere source of military recruits and taxation. anatolian provinces frequently revolted against the sultan. (esp. during and after the 17th century) after years of never-ending wars in europe and the caucasus, which largely depended on fresh anatolian recruits and financial support, anatolian turkey was so crushed that by the start of the republic it had become a sparsely populated dead-zone. that's when an alternative government born at the center of anatolia ended ottoman hegemony over turkey.
@@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced what he means is all the investment, educated citizenz..etc were actually on west of istanbul. the anatolian turks were mostly considered raw manpower for military.
Europe stopped them from getting too strong. They adopted science too late and fell behind. They ran out of energy after being stopped at Sweden, Russia, Austria, Poland, Italy, and Spain. Europe's blue print: Ottoman empire vs Russia, Austria, Sweden, Poland, Italy, and Spain Huns vs Europe Mongols vs Central Europe Islamic empires vs France Countless wars for survival The empire ran out of energy after losing to Europe and began to decay slowly. The empire became an old man, no youthful vigor.
One of the most important factors which caused Entente powers to believe they could colonize Anatolia or at least turn it into a mandate is often missed, it was because there were less than 10 million Turks living during that time. European populations were much larger such as Russian empire had 166 million population, even total population of Greeks 6.5 million and Armenians 4.5 million was more than Turks. While Entente powers had colonies and mandates with much larger populations. So in their eyes Anatolia was served to them on a golden plate but ofc they miscalculated how far Turks can push for their independence. There was no way on Earth their invasion would be accepted by Turkish public, Ottoman might be surrendered but this didn't change anything. Even centuries ago when Mongols invaded Anatolia it was same that Seljuks accepted becoming a Mongol vassal while not Turkish tribes, they kept fighting and Mongols had to invade Anatolia 3 times more! For example Kayı tribe which established Ottoman was also fighting against Mongols and for this reason they had support of other tribes. Invading Constantinople and allowing Greeks to invade western Anatolia sealed their fate as soon as they happened..
@@nikhtose You are talking about Greeks and Armenians living in Anatolia while im talking about their entire populations! Ottoman lost vast majority of Balkans and eastern Anatolia/Caucasus to Russian empire so indeed there weren't many Greeks and Armenians living in Ottoman anymore. While pretty much entire Anatolia was Turkish/Muslim majority in 1914 but as i stated their population was actually quite small compared to other countries..
@@NikephorosCaesar Care to share when westerners will leave North America, South America, Australia, South Africa, huh? You two faced clowns claim entire continents as western lands even if they were invaded only few centuries ago while still considering Anatolia Greek even if Turks invaded 1000 years ago. The worst of all Greeks aren't native Anatolians neither and they invaded Anatolia EXACTLY same as Turks did! You would brag about Troy, trojan horse etc while completely ignoring Homer also talks about how ENTIRE population of Troy was killed or enslaved for obvious reasons..
this war in Turkish is called "War of Survival" (Kurtulus Savasi) not War of Indipendence . That alone explains the determinaton of Turks. 2 million Turk massacred in Balkans 3 million run to Anatolia and 2 Million masacred in eastern Anatolia by Armenians
To this day people still talk about the harshness of the Treaty of Versailles while nobody talks about how absurdly harsh the Treaty of Sevres was. It wasn't even due to newly independent countries like it happened with Austria-Hungary, most of the land was to be taken as new colonies or extension of colonies by imperialists. If Germany barely losing any land is enough to excuse the rise of Hitler, imagine what Sevres should have caused if it came to pass. Probably would summon Cthulhu or something.
Être fort comme un Turc ('to be strong like a turk'): This expression originates in the 15th century when the Turks had a reputation for being strong, almost unbeatable warriors due to their numerous victories. At the time, the Ottoman Empire ruled large parts of south-east Europe, north Africa and western Asia. It is said that François I, King of France, was gifted Turkish armour by Suleiman the Magnificent (the tenth and most famous sultan of the Ottoman Empire) during their alliance. When he wore it, he is said to have exclaimed: "Here I am now, strong as a Turk!"
In Italian we have another expression,”fumare come un turco”, smoking like a Turk. This was after the naval defeat of the Turks at Lepanto because so many of the Ottoman ships where on fire, but now it is just used to indicate some one smokes a lot.
Turks will destroy their country if they keep this level of nationalism because it will lead to racism which will lead to civil war especially while having half of the population not being Turkish .
No, the war with Armenia was small skirmishes, which ended easy and quick victory for Turks. The casualties for Turks were somewhere near 100 soldiers. The real wars were first with French occupation troops, then the big one was with Greeks.
You paint Greece as the bad guy and a colonial power. Greece's aims are totally different from Britain's and Italy's. Also you didn't show the Assyrian population and didn't mention that autrocities by the Turks started in 1915.
@@quvy338And yet that's still slower than a Turk denying their atrocities, ethno nationalisims, current non secular time machine shift making the Ataturk roll in his grace, playing the victim and bragging of their strenght to the same people whose alliances they ran to join.
@@batuhancumademirezen8646 you dont know history...Greece wanted to liberate the areas which were populated by greeks continiously since the bronze age. Turks didnt even exist back then.
It is indeed nice seeing everything from a comfortable position , that of the victor but when you look deeper an ugly reality suddently hits you.......
Imagine a world where Greeks and Turks didn't pointlessly bicker on YT comments and actually put that effort into their economies... they might actually be functional!
Great content, it's quite precise! As a Turkish person, I would appreciate if you could include Ataturk's revolutions in Part 2. He wasn't just a war hero, he was also an excellent ruler. He changed the alphabet to Latin, he has set a certain dress code to modernize the people, he changed the laws to allow women to vote - earlier than ANY European country. He even wrote a math book, which introduced Turkish math terms invented solely by himself. The list goes on. In my opinion, his most important act (which is also the highest debated one in today's Turkiye) was to regulate the religion and create a SECULAR state. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's post-war decisions are the main factor that prevents Turkiye to be another Islamic lame country, despite having a muslim majority.
Why don't you have your own alphabet? Why not your own dress code? Why use Islam for 600 years and then betray it? You're Central Asian mongol turks and will always be Central Asian mongol turks. You'll never be European, not even in your dreams
So did the West accept the Turks as their own. Did they added them to European Union. Blood of a Muslim can spill in any way, West hass zero concern . They will nebver accepts Turks not just Alphabets, Dress or Dirinking. Turkie will always be Muslim country in the heart. Inshallah Mashallah words are heard in every conversations. Still. Atatturk or no one can erase that. No one can erase ISlam because it has the essence of Jesus and Moses. Peace.
This was the worst foreign narrative I've ever seen about my country's war of independence. You got almost everything wrong. Even the order of events isn't correct.
Turks mostly accepted their fate prior to Treaty of Sevres. European superpowers have already seen as superiors by Turks decades ago before war. Even Constaninople was occupied with no resistance. But Greek landing in Smyrna and expansion into western anatolia caused a wildfire. Because Greeks were subjects for centuries and that act was unacceptable for Turks which caused rise of mass nationalism. If Greeks didnot land Smyrna, Eastern Thrace, Dardanelles and Bosphorus most likely would not belong to Turkey now.
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk could've built a stronger Republic of Turkey if greece hadn't invaded and killed civillian, military population. 5th army corps would've been diverted to the french front after the peace treaty with russia had been achieved. Italians likely wouldn't pursue the agean regions promised to them and might've left peacefully. And, Britain would've been kicked out of İstanbul earlier diplomatically.
@@kacknkurt3078Even Constaniople was occupied by Entente without a single shot what are you talking about? But when Greek troops landed in Smyrna this caused nationwide protests and it became clear that they were going to press more and more demands.The Greeks, unlike the British, would settle permanently. Thats why it became survival war rather than just post war occupations. France occupied the Rhineland after WW1 but they never tried to fully integrate that area into France bc they knew that it would cause a great reaction from the Germans, whose pride was already wounded and the Greeks made that mistake. There were only seperate local resistance groups in anatolia.But when it became clear that these occupations would continue, Mustafa Kemal organized and united these groups and managed to turn most them regular troops. That's why we call it the Turkish National movement. Take a look at the Sultanahmet rallies in Istanbul after the occupation of Izmir, where the number of participants exceeded 200.000 people. This shows that you should not make bold statements like "You don't know Mustafa Kemal" If you don't want to find yourself in a funny situation like this.
Turkish War of Independence, from? We already Ottomans, just reformed old country. Oghuz > Reformed Seljuks Seljuks > Reformed Ottomans Ottomans > Reformed Republic of Turkiye.
0:08 You mispronounced "subsequent" which should be "SUB-suh-kwent". Also Türkiye was misspelled in the thumbnail! How could you? 2:13 "Ottoman lands were occupied WHERE needed" Come on! Get the kids out of you production team and get some adults in there who know vocabulary and can spell things!
I want to like your videos. But the constant annoying sound effects and way too loud music makes them unwatchable. Maybe concentrate on having your narrator be, I don't know, understandable.
Things this video does not say 1 What indepenednce ? It was a civil war. 2 the reason the greek troops shot at people in smyrna is because when they were marching in the streets, celebrated by the greek population, a turkish person fired a single shot at the greek army and so the greeks panicked And many more.
@@Kebab_with_extra_garlic_mayo what you say is like saying the french in ww2 fought the germans to GAIN their indepenednce. Key word GAIN, not maintain. When we say a war for indepenednce we usually mean gaining indepenednce because untill that point we didnt even have it. Like the greek war for instance for instance. The turks...? Who to gain their indepenednce from? Form the balkans which they had enslaved for centuries? See? Its stupid and illogical
@@Thomas.Nikolaidis10 look 1877 ottoman russia war ottomans lost 1 million muslim population. During balkan war ottomans lost up to 2 million muslim population deportrd genocided. If u ask me these were wars which we turks and other muslims suffered a lot at the hands of balkan christians and russians. But do you hear we cry because our losses? No because we lost it and get over with it. You still cry like it did happen yesterday
Only a vassal state or a colony would have a war of independence, like Americans did in their war of independence against the British Empire. Turkish war of national liberation was a reaction to overextending grasp of victors of ww1. National Assembly of Constantinople migrated to Ankara and there was a continuation of govermental body. Even in the war, the assembly was not abolished, and/or not elected a dictator. Only, for the decisions about mobilizing the army, they appointed Mustafa Kemal as chief commander with authority to give executive orders in order to supply the army, and that is re-voted every three months, keeping the right to revoke the previlage anytime the assembly wishes. At that point, the defacto govermental system of the resistance movement was already a republic. The success of the campaign eventually led to abolishment of the monarchy and caliphate, and national assembly goverment evolved into a republic, putting an elected person as chief of the nation instead of the sultanate which is a form of "divine rule of a dynasty". So in short, it should be labeled as "Turkish war of national liberation".
This Empire struggled with the overlordship in some regions from the beginning, especially in the Balkans. The local rulers have been native people like 95% of the time. If there haven´t been those "traitors" and ones who got islamized and ranked up, the ottoman empire would´ve never endured so long. Their army literally struggled with basic villagers that consisted of Albanians, Greeks, Serbs....if they only had united much earlier. It was doomed since day one.
Köksal ceylan Türkçe biliyormusun bilmiyorum ama Enver Paşa Gagavuz Türkü Talat paşa balkan Türkü Cemal Paşa da Türk Neden bunların Türk olmadığını düşünüyorsun
@@MM10567his parents were yörük turks living in selanik/thessalonica as a result of hundreds of years of ottoman rule. A lot of turks continued to live in macedonia until the population exchange in 1923 and a lot of turks still live in western thrace. Learn proper history bruh
Bear in mind that Anatolia was a colony of Ottomans. Ottomans was a Balkan centered Empire... Anatolia was a manpower and tax pool just like what India was for GB. Turks first revolted in 16th century against Ottomans. Unfortunately they were assimilated and crushed for their acts and they were converted and brainwashed by Islam into compliance and ignorance. Turkish War of Independence was not only against the occupying forces, it was also against the Ottoman Empire.
The Turks were considered as the best warriors due to their horsemanship and skill in archery. Kaushik Roy., n.d. Military Transition in Early Modern Asia, 1400-1750: Cavalry, Guns, Government and Ships (Bloomsbury Studies in Military History). p.24. While there is much more than this to the Turks, it is true that Turks rank among history’s great empire-builders and rulers. Under the Ottomans they conquered vast territories in the Balkans and the Middle East and ruled for six hundred years. Turkey Country Study Guide Volume 1 Strategic Information and Developments pp.30 The Turks can be killed, but they can never be conquered. Napoleon in his own words from the French of Jules Bertaut p.44
Question about logistics: Did Kemal's faction control munitions factories in the areas they controlled? If not, how did the Nationalists obtain weapons & ammunition to keep fighting?
As far as i know at the time there was no factories in the areas held by kemalists.Ataturk signed an agreement with the russians to receive arms and ammunition and also created a war economy where people would craft bullets by hand
Some live abroad, most mainly in Britain living a rather common but peacefull life. But there are those who had returned some years ago and have been trying to get some advantage of those with the Imperial nostalgia. But there isn't really a strong monarchist movement in the country so I think they won't have much of an effect.
They fear us since the invasion of Attila. Even today Greeks every day beg for support by US whenever we increase our army size, invent new army technologies, produce more drones etc
Because we literally colonized a quarter of Europe for almost half a millenium? I mean, what europeans did to stone-tip spear wielding people we did more upon the Europeans. That bitter knowledge must be hurting severely
Turkey had fought against a foreign invasion less than a decade before defeating the Greek Army which was being supported by the imperialist countries. In the following years Turkey became one of the most powerful nations in Europe. The Chinese looked to Turkey's example in their own fight against Japanese imperialism, and became especially interested in Mustafa Kemal. The Chinese started to use Mustafa Kemal's name in their advertisements to gain support in their own fight. One advertisement begins with the latest news from the ongoing war, criticizing those who "do not join the résistance against the Japanese" before calling on young people to join the revolutionary army. ...且为复兴中国之凯末尔,统兵北上抗日。 The united army marched north to resist the Japanese, reviving the spirit of Kemal in China. Dagong Bao Tianjin Edition 1933.04.27
We call this war not a war of independence, but a war of salvation.
True. Calling it War of Independence makes it sound like we didn’t have independence beforehand while the aim of the war was about keeping it.
Absolutely true. Turks didn't free themselves from a colonizer, but invaders trying to seize their lands.
I am Greek. In all Greek history books we call 1922 a disaster year ( Μinor Asia catastrophe/ Μικρασιατική Καταστροφή)
@@tomsmith4542 This is your problem. Why did you try to invade Anatolia then? You guys got bigger even after the Moria rebellion. Because "some" countries encouraged you to do the dirty job instead. You can see the same parallels today.
@@tomsmith4542 your name is the most greek name i have ever seen
Ataturk doesn’t get enough credit in the west. He led a defeated country that had been brought to its knees to victory, and created a new modern and enduring democracy that has always contested by Islamists including the current t one
he doesn't get enough credits because of antiturkists.
He doesnt get enough credit because Europe is butthurt
"Turk soldier won't die for arab deserts anymore"
~M.Kemal Ataturk
thats nonsense ottomans literally took arab countries without taking their deserts
@@KeyUploads2ataturk(its a rumour word and not Real, propaganda aby ısraeli supporters)said:the Turkish Mehmetçik army will from now on won't die to the Arabs in gaza,medina,Syria and Baghdad.
This was a War of Salvation, not independence.
Nope. It's war of independence
@@julia2k8it's the war of salvation, the turk is not being colonize and wanted to be free, they wanted their land back that the west has stolen from the treaty
@@julia2k8cringe PFP
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@@hera5299 Nasıl yok? Biz bir devlete mi bağlıydık da onlardan ayrıldık? Mevcut bağımsızlığımız tehdit altındaydı ve ülkeyi işgal etmekte olan düşmanlardan kurtardık. Aradaki farkı anlamak çok mu zor acaba.
I have an entire series of lectures on the Ottomans. Including the events that led to their fall. They fell into the trap of many civilizations. Overextending themselves, bad rulers, failure to modernize until it was to late. The Tanzimant period for example. And of course other factors such as the growing desire by people to be independent, Greeks, Armenians etc.
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If you want to understand how the Ottoman state and the Ottoman people thought, watch this.
Ofcourse according to a European/Western you will consider Ottomans as bad rulers, since people from diffrent culture and religion conquered you and ruled you for centruies. However when it comes to French,British rule around Africa then you don't consider them as bad rulers right ?
@someoneyoulike1180 they had some very successful rulers during their rise and fairly bad ones during their fall
@@someoneyoulike1180bad rulers mean for their own people not the conquered
I am Turkish. In 1900, my grandfather served in the military in Yemen for 5 years. We Turks have fought from front to front for the Ummah for 1000 years. But now the situation has changed. We don't have a drop of blood to shed for traitors. They have lawrence 💔💔💔
Why do you act as if all arabs betrayed the Ottomans? Only the elite from Hijar betrayed you. Now cry more
@@user-988-Fauri Thank you for your common sense...
Internet weirdos try not to bootlick evil empires that ceased to exist centuries ago
@@user-988-Faurikardeş değiliz araplarla hiç bir zaman da olmayacağız bir öğrenemediniz bunlardan kardeş dost olunamayacağını. kendileriyle bile anlaşamayan millete nasıl kardeşiz dersin. genelleme yapmayın kişisel olun siz kimseyi temsil etmiyorsunuz
@@user-988-Fauri öncelikle Türk bile değilsin ona göre konuşacağım ülkedeki dini veriler gerçeği yansıtmıyor geçen aralık ayında yapılan kapsamlı bir ankette %69 oranında müslüman olduğu görülmüştür ki bu zaten belli bir şey çoğu laiktir. müslümanlar olanlar bile dindar değillerdir kırsal kesimler hariç. siz araplarla birleşmek fikri aklımızın ucunda bile değil tam tersi sizi ülkeden göndermek için çaba sarf ediyoruz :d erdoğanın diğer islam ülkeleriyle olan tutumu ise sadece algıdır ve göz boyamadır yoksa herkes ne olduğunu çok iyi biliyor. bu arada bu söylemlerinize ek olarak bence önce kendi milletinizle birleşmeyi deneyin bize söylemek yerine kendi içinizde bile anlaşamayan bir milletsiniz. sizinle hiç bir zaman birleşmedik birleşmekte istemiyoruz. biz Türküz gerisine gerek yok. sorunlarımız da sadece bizi ilgilendirir sizi değil umarım açıklayıcı olmuştur
It was an informative and wonderful introduction about last year's of WW1 in Ottoman empire...thank you for sharing
For some tragic reason the Greeks always get nerfed badly by the Turks.
Greeks always has played victim in spite of their violence against to millions of Ottoman civilians in Mora in 1821 ,Crete island in 1821 ,Balkan wars, 1912-1913, invasion of Minor Asia 1918-1922.And their violence by Cyprus-Greece Enosis ,Eoka and Greek Junta violence against to Turkish Cypriots 1960-1974.
@@Sirius-VoyagerThen why do you occupy their historical lands though?
@@MegrelMamba Firstly Look your country’s history,Native americans, Vietnam,Iraq,Syria etc….Also Ancient times Greek colonized to all Mediterranian area after fall of Troya.Constanstinople was belong to Tracians,All Egean Lands and Cyprus belong was belong to Native Anatolians as Troyans, Lycians, Lydians , Carians ,Hittites etc…
@@Sirius-VoyagerAll of what you said is wrong. When constantinople was created the thracians were long gone it was roman territory which evolved into the eastern roman empire. Rhe aegean islands have always been populated by greek civilazations such as the cycladic and minoan, cyprus was never lydian the first people there were myceneans and hittites who migrated there together but i dont see any hittites anywhere.
Minoans, Cypriots, Cycladics were not Greek speaking people. They were separate civilisations. But later they were hellenised.
Turks indeed had a decisive role in triggering historical major events like the Migration Period, Crusades, shaping the history of Balkans, Islamization of Northern India, Age of Discovery as well as ending the Middle Ages with the conquest of Constantinople, fall of the Roman Empire
The statement you provided is not entirely accurate. While Turks have played a significant role in various historical events, attributing all of these major events solely to Turks is oversimplifying history..
Migration Period: The Migration Period was a complex historical period during which various tribes and groups, including the Huns, Goths, Vandals, and others, migrated and contributed to the fall of the Western Roman Empire. While the Huns, led by Attila, were of Central Asian origin, they were not Turks.
Crusades: The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christian and Muslim forces. While Turks, specifically the Seljuk Turks, were involved in some aspects of the Crusades, the conflict was much broader, involving various European and Middle Eastern powers.
Shaping the history of the Balkans: The history of the Balkans is shaped by multiple ethnic and religious groups, not just the Turks. The Ottoman Empire, which was of Turkic origin, did have a significant impact on the region, but it was a complex interplay of factors that determined the course of Balkan history.
Islamization of Northern India: The Islamic conquest of Northern India was carried out by various Muslim dynasties, including the Ghaznavids, Ghurids, and the Delhi Sultanate, who were not of Turkish origin. The Turks did play a role in later periods, such as the Mughal Empire, which was of Mongol-Turkic origin.
Age of Discovery: The Age of Discovery was primarily driven by European explorers and navigators who sought new trade routes and territories. While Turks had an empire during this time (the Ottoman Empire), they were not the main drivers of European exploration.
Conquest of Constantinople and the fall of the Roman Empire: The conquest of Constantinople in 1453 marked the end of the Byzantine Empire, but the fall of the Roman Empire in the West had occurred in 476 AD, long before the rise of the Turks. The fall of the Western Roman Empire was influenced by a variety of factors, including economic, political, and military issues.
Truly said. The conquest of Constantinople in 1453 forced the Europeans to go to their trading partners by or the other way and in 1492 they reached America, in 1498 they reached India, in 1500 they reached Brazil and in 1542 they reached as far as Japan.
@@s1002546 First of all the Huns were a Turkic people who led the migration period, Huns & the Hunnic language being Oghur Turkic has been the academic consensus for decades, with the fields top scholars Heinrich Menges, Pulleyblank, Pritsak, Maenchen-Helfen, Hyun Jin Kim, etc. all agreeing on that, Alp Arslan's conquest of Anatolia from the Byzantines is also seen as one of the pivotal precursors to the launch of the Crusades. Many Turkic empires such as, Ottoman Empire, First Bulgar Empire, Second Bulgar Empire, Avar Khaganate, Hunnic, empire eventually Gepid dynasty (ruled by Turkic Huns, the tribe was Germanic) etc.. also partly by Goldenhorde and Cumans. The Ghurid army had significant Turkic soldiers, which led the foundation of Delhi sultanate which eventually got ruled by 5 dynasties whom 3 where Turkic (Khalji, Tughlag, Memluk) also Bahtiyar Khalji (Turkic warlord) is responsabel of the Islamization of Bengal whom he conquered with just only 18 men.
The Fall of Constantinople led the shaping of Discovery even The western Roman Empire got conquered by Turkic Huns 😹😹😹
@@s1002546 educate your self, again pseudo history who is jealous of Turkic history 😂🤣
@@AltaicGigachad I am not jealous. And where have I been wrong? Can you point that out to me? Than we can have a conversation like two grown-ups.
Last Sultan Vahdettin escaped with British warship at the end of Turkish indipendent war in 1922.
The last Sultan was Abdülhamid han the second. Everyone after them was just a pretender a fake. To me the war was lost for the Ottomans when the coup happend against him.
Because ataturk and republicists were threatening him. Sultan Vahideddin left his all money and golds in Turkiye
😂😂😂😂 yalansa əlinə verim 😂 vahdettin milli azadlıq hərəkatı dövründə milli azadlıq hərəkatna qarşı çıxıb ingilislərin gtunu yaladigi və xalqa xəyanət elədiyi üçün qaçdı. Bu qədər xəyanətdən, edam fətvalarından sonra özünü təhlükə də gördü ve İngiltere'ye mektup yazdı mən qorxuram təhlükəli vəziyyətdəyəm məni qurtarın deyə.@@y_a_1904_
in the last decades of the empire, the nations rebelled against the empire and had gained independence one by one. The Turks were just the last nation to rebel against the empire, which ended the empire. In the process, wars against the colonists were also won, the invasion having been repelled.
Turks are the empire itself. Turks took control of the empire from the sultan before WW1 too. Sultan was merely a symbloic figure. After WW1 last sultan was just powerless british obeyer.
@@Kaan_is_myname97 by definition, an empire has no official nation, no official language, no official religion. Nothing but a confederation of nations ruled by an emperor, called sultan.
An oghuz tribe founded the empire. Then it evolved into something like the continuation of the eastern Roman empire.
Sizi anlıyorum ama ingilizce yazamam
Osmanlı bir cok yönetim şeklinden geçti ama en önemli yönetim şekli monarşi idi ve türk aydınları da monarşiye karşıydı ve cumhuriyet fikri o zaman da vardı yani evet imparatorluğa isyan eden son halk türklerdi ama sadece aydın kesim , sıradan halk osmanlı monarşi cumhuriyet ayırt edemior sadece dış güçlerin ülkede olmasını istemiyordu
@@XaterTuyi-vq2jh padişahı İstanbul'u yok sayıp kurtuluş ordularında toplanmaları, tbmm'nin yürütmesine bağlı olmaları bildiğin imparatorluğa başkaldırıdır.
@@Official-Commentsdon’t tell me that your comparing an empire which was founded upon islamic values and was the islamic caliphate for 400 years with a nationalist apartheid state like the 3rd reich
Very very big difference between the two , in the ottoman empire all Muslims were equal and had equal rights regardless of their ethnicity, the ottoman empire is an islamic caliphate don’t conflate it with European colonialist empires like the French and the British in which the native people of these empire were superior to others
Turks defeated a "Seven Nation Army" ("Yedi Düvel") to defend their homeland and for their salvation.
It became unfeasible for the Ottomans to control so many nations that wanted freedom. It was inevitable for the empire to collapse.
They are free now 😂😂😂😂 Free and independent countries 😂😂😂
@@TRofTR And they brought war in which drag the whole of Europe into it.
Bismarck was right about the powederkeg.
@@TRofTR as an arab palestanian i really hate those who rebelled against the ottomans most of us hate them they were mostly shia and jordanians and saudis
@@m7mdxd_137يا حبيبي العثمانيين بعد 1909 اصبحت دولة تركيه عرقيه. عزل الاتراك الجدد الخليفه عبد الحميدي الثاني و استبدلو الشريعه الاسلامية بدستور تركي قومي. حتى نحن في اليمن في اواخر أيامهم عملو الاتراك الجدد مجازر. وكذالك جمال باشا عمل مجازر في حق اهل الشام
@@Truth21a619 لو لسة همه حاكمين كان بكون وضعنا احسن
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I use to think like you to, until I done my own research. As I’m a very curious person who likes to research world history.
There was a lot of casualties on both sides in Anatolia in 1915 during World War One. It was a civil war which the Armenians started and the Armenians lost. Do your research please.
The Ottoman Empire was busy fighting the Allies which includes England, Australia, India, Canada, New Zealand, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, France and French colonies and also supported by Russia in Gallipoli.
The Ottoman Empire was also fighting the Russians in the northeast part of the Empire known as the Caucasus, and the Greeks in the southern part of Turkey, whilst the Armenians cowardly attacked old men, women and children in Anatolia, which resulted in a civil war which the Armenians lost.
Please do your research. Thank you.
It’s about time people did some research and thinking for themselves instead of just accepting what is thrown their way and merely believing what is "popular".
The Turkish government invited the Armenian government less then 20 years ago in public to produce all documents, archives and others along with historians and lawyers. That both governments have and open them up for scrutiny, the Armenians remained silent and didn’t accept the offer.
From the book - "Armenian Genocide" (And if they had lied to us) Reflections on the Turkish-Armenian tragedy by Yves Bénard.
"(When WW1 erupted) All the Turks were drafted. Only the elderly, the women and children, remained in towns and villages. The Armenian militias had been waiting for this moment to implement their extermination plan aiming to obtain the "Great Armenia". Driven by a murderous frenzy, they indulged in barbarous acts of indescribable cruelty, over 500,000 victims were raped, disembowelled, crucified, slaughtered, mutilated, burned or buried, and the villages burned."
“The relocation of the Armenian gangs and their supporters, who massacred the Muslim people, including women and children, in eastern Anatolia, was the most reasonable action that could be taken in such a period.
The doors of our archives are wide open to all seeking the truth.”
In regards to the so called “Death Marches” historians allude that Russia and The Ottoman Empire was on the brink of war in that region of Anatolia during World War One, therefore the civilian population of that region mostly Armenians/Kurdish/Turkish were relocated to the Levant for their own safety.
Furthermore The Ottoman Empire ruled with justice and equality to all faiths within its borders, even so much as helping other nations. A few honorable mentions helping the Irish during The Great Famine of 1845 to 1852.
The Ottoman Empire sent the Irish $$$,$$$ and ships full of plant seeds and food. They especially sent different types of plant seeds so they can grow their own fresh produce for many generations to come. And therefore it’s an ongoing charity till this day. Because the fruit and vegetables are still producing and growing in Ireland 170 years after the seeds were planted in the earth.
“The Irish did not forget this favor and put a crescent and star symbol on the emblem of the city and Drogheda Football Club in 1919.”
Another football club located in England's southeast Portsmouth Football Club has the Islamic Star and Crescent on their logo as a sign of respect and gratitude to the generous Ottoman Empire. Even today, a school run by the Royal Navy is called H.M.S Sultan.
“Sultan Abdülmecid sent naval officers to Britain, once the world's most powerful marine power, for navigation and artillery training. Two frigates, the Mir'at-ı Zafer (The Mirror of Victory) and Çerağ-ı Bahri (The Light of the Sea) anchored in Portsmouth Harbor.”
Also in another part of Europe. “The Deportivo football club, a city on the Spain-Portuguese border, also has an emblem with a crescent and star. Mentioned as "The Turks" by its rivals, Deportivo La Coruna opens a Turkish flag in its matches. According to an account, the youth of Galicia, famous for their bravery, supported Ottoman Admiral Barbarossa Hayreddin Pasha during the struggle against the Portuguese.”
As way of keeping the peace on the European continent. The Ottoman Empire helped stop the invasion of Protestant England in 1570, from mainly Catholic Spain and The Netherlands.
“The Pope excommunicated Elizabeth I of England and the might of Catholic Europe was against her, an invasion was imminent. English merchants were boycotted from trading with the rich markets of Europe. Elizabeth I of England responded by reaching out to The Ottoman Empire for help.”
Stability and security in the Balkans, Caucasus, North Africa and the Middle East was never again the same after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. That’s a fact.
“Turkey supports 170 countries with development aid.”
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“Turkey has broken the dire record of the country hosting the largest number of refugees in the world.”
As of 2016 Turkey is hosting 4.3 million refugees. This number is increasing every day.
hurriyetdailynews is a Turkish Propaganda rag run out of the ANKARA - Anadolu Agency. Are you sayng you used to believe in the ARMNEIAN HOLOCUST and this website had such power information that you couldnt refute and accepted it? DO you think it seems kinda unlikely that history is actually incorrect and all that we know about Armenians is a LIE? Did you find out where they came from>?
Fun fact : Mustafa Kemal’s landing on Samsun in 19th of May was not a coincidence. He actually picked that specific date on purpose. It’s also the anniversary of the first rebellion for independence in turkic history, known as the “Jiucheng Palace raid”
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@@relaxbirisi5 sakarya meydan savasi osmanil ve ayaklanan darbeci mustafa kemal hainleri arasinda oldu. sonradan tarihi degistirdiler ve yunana karsi diye yazdilar.
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The Ottoman Empire is actually a Balkan centered state. It was not possible for it to continue its existence after losing the Balkans. If they had proceeded with a planned downsizing, we might be talking about different maps today. The army was spread over a very large area. It was extremely difficult to control and resupply. Instead, it was most logical to defend the Balkans and Anatolia and its surroundings. If they had sensed the danger coming from the Arabian deserts beforehand, we might have been talking about other things.
what do you mean balkan centered??? bro wtf, it was more turkey centered
@@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced The Ottomans invested more in the Balkans than in Anatolia. The Ottoman elite was generally of Balkan origin. The educated population was in the Balkans. leading schools were generally in the Balkans. The Balkans were important for the Ottomans in terms of food. In short, the influence of the Balkans in the Ottoman state administration was very high. Anatolia had less influence. On the other hand, the ethnic Turkish population was larger in Anatolia, but they did not have much of a say in state administration. By the way, the Ottomans conquered the Balkans before Anatolia :)) It took longer for him to dominate Anatolia. Because there were many small Turkish states.
@@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced anatolia was mainly treated as a backwater, a mere source of military recruits and taxation. anatolian provinces frequently revolted against the sultan. (esp. during and after the 17th century) after years of never-ending wars in europe and the caucasus, which largely depended on fresh anatolian recruits and financial support, anatolian turkey was so crushed that by the start of the republic it had become a sparsely populated dead-zone. that's when an alternative government born at the center of anatolia ended ottoman hegemony over turkey.
@@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced what he means is all the investment, educated citizenz..etc were actually on west of istanbul. the anatolian turks were mostly considered raw manpower for military.
Europe stopped them from getting too strong. They adopted science too late and fell behind. They ran out of energy after being stopped at Sweden, Russia, Austria, Poland, Italy, and Spain.
Europe's blue print:
Ottoman empire vs Russia, Austria, Sweden, Poland, Italy, and Spain
Huns vs Europe
Mongols vs Central Europe
Islamic empires vs France
Countless wars for survival
The empire ran out of energy after losing to Europe and began to decay slowly. The empire became an old man, no youthful vigor.
Might be a good idea to lock the comments section on this one.
Bursa and Erzurum were by far majority Turkish and Istanbul ( Constantinople at the time) had a Turkish plurality
yes, people confuse minorities having a big population and them being not "minorites". maybe deliberately...
One of the most important factors which caused Entente powers to believe they could colonize Anatolia or at least turn it into a mandate is often missed, it was because there were less than 10 million Turks living during that time. European populations were much larger such as Russian empire had 166 million population, even total population of Greeks 6.5 million and Armenians 4.5 million was more than Turks. While Entente powers had colonies and mandates with much larger populations. So in their eyes Anatolia was served to them on a golden plate but ofc they miscalculated how far Turks can push for their independence. There was no way on Earth their invasion would be accepted by Turkish public, Ottoman might be surrendered but this didn't change anything. Even centuries ago when Mongols invaded Anatolia it was same that Seljuks accepted becoming a Mongol vassal while not Turkish tribes, they kept fighting and Mongols had to invade Anatolia 3 times more! For example Kayı tribe which established Ottoman was also fighting against Mongols and for this reason they had support of other tribes. Invading Constantinople and allowing Greeks to invade western Anatolia sealed their fate as soon as they happened..
Not true. Ethnic Turks made up over 80% of Anatolian population, Greeks 8%, Armenians 7%. Look it up. Kemal's victory was inevitable.
@@nikhtose You are talking about Greeks and Armenians living in Anatolia while im talking about their entire populations! Ottoman lost vast majority of Balkans and eastern Anatolia/Caucasus to Russian empire so indeed there weren't many Greeks and Armenians living in Ottoman anymore. While pretty much entire Anatolia was Turkish/Muslim majority in 1914 but as i stated their population was actually quite small compared to other countries..
Mongols massacred so many people in anatolia ı mean everywhere happend there too
Greeks invade? You mean retake their lands right? Turks should have been driven back into Turkmenistan
@@NikephorosCaesar Care to share when westerners will leave North America, South America, Australia, South Africa, huh? You two faced clowns claim entire continents as western lands even if they were invaded only few centuries ago while still considering Anatolia Greek even if Turks invaded 1000 years ago. The worst of all Greeks aren't native Anatolians neither and they invaded Anatolia EXACTLY same as Turks did! You would brag about Troy, trojan horse etc while completely ignoring Homer also talks about how ENTIRE population of Troy was killed or enslaved for obvious reasons..
this war in Turkish is called "War of Survival" (Kurtulus Savasi) not War of Indipendence . That alone explains the determinaton of Turks. 2 million Turk massacred in Balkans 3 million run to Anatolia and 2 Million masacred in eastern Anatolia by Armenians
What are you AzTurk? Can I has some?
where did you get those numbers from
To this day people still talk about the harshness of the Treaty of Versailles while nobody talks about how absurdly harsh the Treaty of Sevres was. It wasn't even due to newly independent countries like it happened with Austria-Hungary, most of the land was to be taken as new colonies or extension of colonies by imperialists. If Germany barely losing any land is enough to excuse the rise of Hitler, imagine what Sevres should have caused if it came to pass. Probably would summon Cthulhu or something.
How slow do you want to narrate?
Knowledgia: yes
I like it tho
Être fort comme un Turc ('to be strong like a turk'): This expression originates in the 15th century when the Turks had a reputation for being strong, almost unbeatable warriors due to their numerous victories. At the time, the Ottoman Empire ruled large parts of south-east Europe, north Africa and western Asia. It is said that François I, King of France, was gifted Turkish armour by Suleiman the Magnificent (the tenth and most famous sultan of the Ottoman Empire) during their alliance. When he wore it, he is said to have exclaimed: "Here I am now, strong as a Turk!"
that's only in French. In Greek there is not such phrase
In Italian we have another expression,”fumare come un turco”, smoking like a Turk. This was after the naval defeat of the Turks at Lepanto because so many of the Ottoman ships where on fire, but now it is just used to indicate some one smokes a lot.
@@xmaniac99 You guys also say ''Mamma Li Turchi'' don't you
Turks will destroy their country if they keep this level of nationalism because it will lead to racism which will lead to civil war especially while having half of the population not being Turkish .
🤣🤣🤣 keep dreaming
Ahh i missed the cringe greek comments
Turkish War of Salvation, should be the title.
“Turkey was going to war with Great Britain and more officially with France, Greece and Armenia.”
No, the war with Armenia was small skirmishes, which ended easy and quick victory for Turks. The casualties for Turks were somewhere near 100 soldiers.
The real wars were first with French occupation troops, then the big one was with Greeks.
This is one really interesting time period. Glad I know more about it. Can't wait for part 2 to come. Whenever that is.
Ataturk: From now on, Turkish soldier will not shed blood for Arap deserts! Well said!
the man, the legend, the leader... ATATURK
The Dönmeh torunu 😂 if you know you know brother
You paint Greece as the bad guy and a colonial power. Greece's aims are totally different from Britain's and Italy's. Also you didn't show the Assyrian population and didn't mention that autrocities by the Turks started in 1915.
Learning history from tiktok 💀
Griks when they dont get to play the victim role for 0.00051 seconds be like:
@@quvy338And yet that's still slower than a Turk denying their atrocities, ethno nationalisims, current non secular time machine shift making the Ataturk roll in his grace, playing the victim and bragging of their strenght to the same people whose alliances they ran to join.
@@batuhancumademirezen8646 you dont know history...Greece wanted to liberate the areas which were populated by greeks continiously since the bronze age. Turks didnt even exist back then.
@@quvy338 It's not mu fault Turks genocided Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians
I see so many swimmers are coping in the comments.
It is indeed nice seeing everything from a comfortable position , that of the victor but when you look deeper an ugly reality suddently hits you.......
You're being cowards by using Erdogan's demanded spelling of "Turkey".
Imagine a world where Greeks and Turks didn't pointlessly bicker on YT comments and actually put that effort into their economies... they might actually be functional!
😂
Yes, absolutely))
Unironically the most sensible TH-cam comment here
True.
Great content, it's quite precise! As a Turkish person, I would appreciate if you could include Ataturk's revolutions in Part 2. He wasn't just a war hero, he was also an excellent ruler. He changed the alphabet to Latin, he has set a certain dress code to modernize the people, he changed the laws to allow women to vote - earlier than ANY European country. He even wrote a math book, which introduced Turkish math terms invented solely by himself. The list goes on. In my opinion, his most important act (which is also the highest debated one in today's Turkiye) was to regulate the religion and create a SECULAR state. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's post-war decisions are the main factor that prevents Turkiye to be another Islamic lame country, despite having a muslim majority.
Why don't you have your own alphabet? Why not your own dress code? Why use Islam for 600 years and then betray it? You're Central Asian mongol turks and will always be Central Asian mongol turks. You'll never be European, not even in your dreams
@@julia2k8 Greek - detected
Opinion - rejected
@@Dzulian not even Greek but sure, what else to expect from a turk 🦃
@@julia2k8You do realize that 90% of Europe comes from Asia. You should research about the Great Migration.
So did the West accept the Turks as their own. Did they added them to European Union. Blood of a Muslim can spill in any way, West hass zero concern . They will nebver accepts Turks not just Alphabets, Dress or Dirinking. Turkie will always be Muslim country in the heart. Inshallah Mashallah words are heard in every conversations. Still. Atatturk or no one can erase that. No one can erase ISlam because it has the essence of Jesus and Moses. Peace.
This was the worst foreign narrative I've ever seen about my country's war of independence. You got almost everything wrong. Even the order of events isn't correct.
You see this green chunk of land on the European side? It should have never been there :-).
Cope harder :)
Turkey has never been colonized therefore it is wrong to call it indipendent war. it is just a war like others.
Turkey has never been colonized. Anatolia has (by Turks). That's why it's indeed a war of independence.
Ottoman empire come back
At least, Türkiye got istanbul back and freed their lands from occupation.
Turks mostly accepted their fate prior to Treaty of Sevres. European superpowers have already seen as superiors by Turks decades ago before war. Even Constaninople was occupied with no resistance. But Greek landing in Smyrna and expansion into western anatolia caused a wildfire. Because Greeks were subjects for centuries and that act was unacceptable for Turks which caused rise of mass nationalism. If Greeks didnot land Smyrna, Eastern Thrace, Dardanelles and Bosphorus most likely would not belong to Turkey now.
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk could've built a stronger Republic of Turkey if greece hadn't invaded and killed civillian, military population. 5th army corps would've been diverted to the french front after the peace treaty with russia had been achieved. Italians likely wouldn't pursue the agean regions promised to them and might've left peacefully. And, Britain would've been kicked out of İstanbul earlier diplomatically.
Nope it will
You do not know Mustafa Kemal
Turks are Already in rage and never give İstanbul
İf you just take mosul and syria
İt would be easy
@@kacknkurt3078Even Constaniople was occupied by Entente without a single shot what are you talking about? But when Greek troops landed in Smyrna this caused nationwide protests and it became clear that they were going to press more and more demands.The Greeks, unlike the British, would settle permanently. Thats why it became survival war rather than just post war occupations. France occupied the Rhineland after WW1 but they never tried to fully integrate that area into France bc they knew that it would cause a great reaction from the Germans, whose pride was already wounded and the Greeks made that mistake. There were only seperate local resistance groups in anatolia.But when it became clear that these occupations would continue, Mustafa Kemal organized and united these groups and managed to turn most them regular troops. That's why we call it the Turkish National movement.
Take a look at the Sultanahmet rallies in Istanbul after the occupation of Izmir, where the number of participants exceeded 200.000 people.
This shows that you should not make bold statements like "You don't know Mustafa Kemal" If you don't want to find yourself in a funny situation like this.
@@kacknkurt3078 take Mosul and Syria? Who do you think you are?
We achieved the ideal of gaining our national state thanks to the Arabs and the Greeks. It may be ironic, but I thank them as a Turk.
Bro it's not Constantinople wa call it istanbul and ypu have to do so
Turkish war of Indepence is a historical masterpiece.
They took too many loans from the Rothshilds, for the Crimea war i.e.
Forever Istanbul!
Long live ATATURK
No hes dead also... he had 0 kids he was homo
Was there any original research done for this video or is it just summarizing the wikipedia article?
Channel so underrated
Turkish War of Independence, from? We already Ottomans, just reformed old country.
Oghuz > Reformed Seljuks
Seljuks > Reformed Ottomans
Ottomans > Reformed Republic of Turkiye.
Ottomans upgraded itself. And changed its name to turkey now its Turkiye Mashallah ❤ 🇹🇷
Where is the old narrator?
Part 2 now! Pls.
You sound like you got a shovel up up skrop sideways 🎉 part 1 just dropped and you scream "part 2 nOoOw" like a bomboclaat 😭
The one sided propaganda is huge in this one , if you guys are interested in history find some legitimate sources not this bs
0:08 You mispronounced "subsequent" which should be "SUB-suh-kwent". Also Türkiye was misspelled in the thumbnail! How could you?
2:13 "Ottoman lands were occupied WHERE needed" Come on! Get the kids out of you production team and get some adults in there who know vocabulary and can spell things!
Turkey*
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War of Liberation*
Can you do part 2 next
Grand Turk
Türklerde bir millet olduklarını anlayıp ümmetlikten millet olmaya geçmişlerdir.
I want to like your videos. But the constant annoying sound effects and way too loud music makes them unwatchable. Maybe concentrate on having your narrator be, I don't know, understandable.
Things this video does not say
1 What indepenednce ? It was a civil war.
2 the reason the greek troops shot at people in smyrna is because when they were marching in the streets, celebrated by the greek population, a turkish person fired a single shot at the greek army and so the greeks panicked
And many more.
It was independence against french/greek and english occupation, it was not just a civil war.
Civil war against 250.000 greeks 😂 50 thousund frech 30.000 armenians
@@Kebab_with_extra_garlic_mayo what you say is like saying the french in ww2 fought the germans to GAIN their indepenednce. Key word GAIN, not maintain. When we say a war for indepenednce we usually mean gaining indepenednce because untill that point we didnt even have it. Like the greek war for instance for instance.
The turks...? Who to gain their indepenednce from? Form the balkans which they had enslaved for centuries? See? Its stupid and illogical
@@mehmetfatihcetin5932 how 900.000 greek civilians genocided? What kind if war would you call it?
@@Thomas.Nikolaidis10 look 1877 ottoman russia war ottomans lost 1 million muslim population. During balkan war ottomans lost up to 2 million muslim population deportrd genocided. If u ask me these were wars which we turks and other muslims suffered a lot at the hands of balkan christians and russians. But do you hear we cry because our losses? No because we lost it and get over with it. You still cry like it did happen yesterday
Only a vassal state or a colony would have a war of independence, like Americans did in their war of independence against the British Empire. Turkish war of national liberation was a reaction to overextending grasp of victors of ww1. National Assembly of Constantinople migrated to Ankara and there was a continuation of govermental body. Even in the war, the assembly was not abolished, and/or not elected a dictator. Only, for the decisions about mobilizing the army, they appointed Mustafa Kemal as chief commander with authority to give executive orders in order to supply the army, and that is re-voted every three months, keeping the right to revoke the previlage anytime the assembly wishes. At that point, the defacto govermental system of the resistance movement was already a republic. The success of the campaign eventually led to abolishment of the monarchy and caliphate, and national assembly goverment evolved into a republic, putting an elected person as chief of the nation instead of the sultanate which is a form of "divine rule of a dynasty". So in short, it should be labeled as "Turkish war of national liberation".
This Empire struggled with the overlordship in some regions from the beginning, especially in the Balkans. The local rulers have been native people like 95% of the time. If there haven´t been those "traitors" and ones who got islamized and ranked up, the ottoman empire would´ve never endured so long. Their army literally struggled with basic villagers that consisted of Albanians, Greeks, Serbs....if they only had united much earlier.
It was doomed since day one.
If they weren't for the traitors to wait for our weakest memory.
this led to Balfour declaration
Enver was Balkan Turk,Talat was Armenian Muslim And Cemal was Syrian Arab Nobel but all were Ottomans!.
Köksal ceylan Türkçe biliyormusun bilmiyorum ama Enver Paşa Gagavuz Türkü
Talat paşa balkan Türkü
Cemal Paşa da Türk
Neden bunların Türk olmadığını düşünüyorsun
Wow...
They didn't have the opportunity to study the conquest of Babylon and the Medes Persians
11:37 / 12:07
ATATÜRK, THE FATHER OF THE TURKS AND THE BEST LEADER EVER...🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
wasn´t Atatürk gay?
@@13bathory1986 why did u ask me something like this, what was your purporse? And why did u insult him without any reason?
@@muhendislerdevleti3468 you know that he was greek right
@@MM10567 🤣🤣He was never a Greek, he was born in Thessaloniki which used to be an Ottoman city during that time. But now, it is in Greece.
@@MM10567his parents were yörük turks living in selanik/thessalonica as a result of hundreds of years of ottoman rule. A lot of turks continued to live in macedonia until the population exchange in 1923 and a lot of turks still live in western thrace. Learn proper history bruh
i wished you had first read the book "a peace to end all peace" before making this video.
Give the history of the Cossack Hetmanate😊
Knowledgia you are bad because you call Istanbul wrong
need a part 2 rn
part 2?
Ottoman Empire really could not administer well in their own country which is one of the cause of their downfall,good friends!!!🙏🏻
Bear in mind that Anatolia was a colony of Ottomans. Ottomans was a Balkan centered Empire...
Anatolia was a manpower and tax pool just like what India was for GB.
Turks first revolted in 16th century against Ottomans. Unfortunately they were assimilated and crushed for their acts and they were converted and brainwashed by Islam into compliance and ignorance.
Turkish War of Independence was not only against the occupying forces, it was also against the Ottoman Empire.
The Turks were considered as the best warriors due to their horsemanship and skill in archery.
Kaushik Roy., n.d. Military Transition in Early Modern Asia, 1400-1750: Cavalry, Guns, Government and Ships (Bloomsbury Studies in Military History). p.24.
While there is much more than this to the Turks, it is true that Turks rank among history’s great empire-builders and rulers. Under the Ottomans they conquered vast territories in the Balkans and the Middle East and ruled for six hundred years.
Turkey Country Study Guide Volume 1 Strategic Information and Developments pp.30
The Turks can be killed, but they can never be conquered.
Napoleon in his own words from the French of Jules Bertaut p.44
Question about logistics: Did Kemal's faction control munitions factories in the areas they controlled? If not, how did the Nationalists obtain weapons & ammunition to keep fighting?
As far as i know at the time there was no factories in the areas held by kemalists.Ataturk signed an agreement with the russians to receive arms and ammunition and also created a war economy where people would craft bullets by hand
Women could not be sent to the war so they repaired broken guns, made new ones(rarely)and made ammos
I truly believe ottoman empire handle multicultural the best .. no it wasnt perfect but it wasnt a fixted thing in their society
Why is turkiye spwlt wrong in the thumbnail
They didnt. It was conquered and partitioned.
Ya istiklal ya ölüm
What become of the ottoman royal family? What are they up to today?
Some live abroad, most mainly in Britain living a rather common but peacefull life. But there are those who had returned some years ago and have been trying to get some advantage of those with the Imperial nostalgia. But there isn't really a strong monarchist movement in the country so I think they won't have much of an effect.
Last Sultan Vahdettin escaped with British warship from Istanbul to Malta in 1922.
Hi, will you ever do any history videos on Africa or the Americas?
Hurry up and upload part 2 already😠😡😤
1:57 what is the name of the ship
HMS Agamemnon
why europe hates turks?
butthurt and copium
Maybe because of centuries of war between the Ottomans and various European nations.
@NeverWalkAlone31 Colonize you? Seriously? You had an empire that subjugated many nations.
They fear us since the invasion of Attila. Even today Greeks every day beg for support by US whenever we increase our army size, invent new army technologies, produce more drones etc
Because we literally colonized a quarter of Europe for almost half a millenium? I mean, what europeans did to stone-tip spear wielding people we did more upon the Europeans. That bitter knowledge must be hurting severely
🙂🙂🙂🙂🙃🙃🙃🙃🙂🙂🙂🙂 youtube better not call this spam
When are you gonna post Part 2 already?
Padeşah Osmanlı
thats what all empires do
Salvation war.
Thanks! :D
Turkey had fought against a foreign invasion less than a decade before defeating the Greek Army which was being supported by the imperialist countries. In the following years Turkey became one of the most powerful nations in Europe. The Chinese looked to Turkey's example in their own fight against Japanese imperialism, and became especially interested in Mustafa Kemal. The Chinese started to use Mustafa Kemal's name in their advertisements to gain support in their own fight.
One advertisement begins with the latest news from the ongoing war, criticizing those who "do not join the résistance against the Japanese" before calling on young people to join the revolutionary army.
...且为复兴中国之凯末尔,统兵北上抗日。
The united army marched north to resist the Japanese, reviving the spirit of Kemal in China.
Dagong Bao Tianjin Edition 1933.04.27
1000th like!
It was not the British army that put the Turks under great pressure, but the Indian soldiers in the British army.
Treaty of Sevres
Treaty of Lausanne
lol
Turkey has become way too imperialistic, it s time to remind them who s the boss!
Like you guys can
actualy you cant do that in the age of NUKES.
Like once you tried and lost about 3 million of your kinsmen or half of Cyprus ?
Fransanın arkasına saklanarak mı?
Last time you tried that, you had your ass handed to you.
Tot cei de la dedo detin canalul?