20km High Kite Flying

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  • Most Ph.D.s focus on niche topics in a very specific field (see here) and Hilary Costello's research project is no different. Her ongoing Phd looks into the properties of aerodynamic stability of very long tethers for very high balloons or vew deep offshore oil and gas platforms underwater.
    Understanding tether dynamics is extremely complex with numerous factors effecting the behaviour of a cable - from the shape and aerodynamics of the tether to the elasticity, bending and torsion of the materials used not to mention the chaging wind speed and temperature at heights of up to 20km.
    Testing the cable dynamics of new tether designs in the real-world is a crucial part of the research process and by modelling and testing cables in isolated sections, it is possible to better understand and model how these may operate together in a larger system.
    With limited access to mile-high balloons, Hilary can often be found in the green pastures of Cambridge University flying kites! Join her as she explains her quest to design an aerodynamic, stable tether that will reduce tension and, ultimately, lessen the risk of large-scale failure.
    This film is part of a project funded by the Royal Academy of Engineering to develop the on camera communication skills of engineers across the UK.
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  • @shelbyparker6821
    @shelbyparker6821 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could listen to her talk all day.

  • @koraykumru1295
    @koraykumru1295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this some interesting click bait. I was lied to but the concepts are cool. The title would lead me to believe the world record for kite flying had been broken.

  • @droceretik
    @droceretik 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My team broke the world altitude record for a single kite in September 2014. We flew a 12 sq meter DT delta to 16,038 ft above ground level. Type 2014 kite altitude record into the search window for the video of the event. Our web site can be found via Kite Magic with a link from the home page. We have 5 other videos of our record attempts. I recognized the importance of aerodynamic line drag 12 years ago when planning for the world record attempts. We use the thinnest, strongest line available. This is braided UHMWPE (Dyneema/Spectra). I have developed a routine in excel which simulates all the forces in kite flights.
    In 2007 I proposed an aerodynamic line profile. The Cd of round line is approximately 1.2. The contribution of line drag is about 3 times that of line weight. I anticipated aero line to be about twice as heavy as round line so their is a definite potential net reduction of negative line forces. I did not progress the concept beyond drawings but these aero lines may be applied to projects such as high altitude tethered wind generators. The Dyneema line would be encased in molded nylon extruded to an aero shape. The profile would be determined by wind tunnel testing but there is already a great body of work on aero profiles so a cataloged profile could be used. I anticipate that line flutter may be a big issue to overcome. Line vibration dynamics on very long lines are interesting. I also have an affiliation with the Ion Power Group which is investigation extracting Ionic charges from the atmosphere to charge large battery capacitor banks. I am advising them about the use of high altitude kites to support the extraction of Ionic charges through tethered conductors. The reduction of aerodynamic tether drag will be very important. After I am finished with 25,000 ft for a single kite in 2020 and 40,000 ft. for a kite train in subsequent years I may focus on aerodynamic kite tethers., preliminary designs of which I have already made. I also have sponsorship from a Japanese company which makes ultra high molecular weight polyester fibre (Toyobo/IZANAS)and a New Zealand line manufacturer, Tasline.

    • @JavierBonillaC
      @JavierBonillaC 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw this, it was awesome!!!

    • @robertmoore2527
      @robertmoore2527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DW Palme Droceretik is Robert Moore's email pseudonym. It's kiterecord backwards. Before your accuse someone of lying you should check your facts. The altitudes are as follows: 16,038 ft as taken directly from the GPS telemetry. The altitude submitted to Guinness was 29 ft. lower due correction for GPS calibration from government survey points in Sydney. Guinness rounded up to 16,010 ft. What about the date? Your apostrophe must be Robert Moore's team, not Robert Moores' team.

    • @1islam1
      @1islam1 ปีที่แล้ว

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      🔴 [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]. ( 2:22 )
      🔵 And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. ( 2:23 )
      🔴 But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.( 2:24 )
      🔵 And give good tidings to those who believe and do righteous deeds that they will have gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with a provision of fruit therefrom, they will say, "This is what we were provided with before." And it is given to them in likeness. And they will have therein purified spouses, and they will abide therein eternally. ( 2:25 )
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    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robertmoore2527still not him though. I can change my username to same right now.

  • @kandakumar4376
    @kandakumar4376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely gorgeous tether

  • @samgibbons4385
    @samgibbons4385 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to learn what you found out? I am hoping to be starting an MSc in Aerospace Engineering and this has really caught my interest.

  • @davohotshot6620
    @davohotshot6620 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried a different approach by adjusting the kite to suit the line drag. Hard to control at less than 200 m but when above the kite behaves well. Braided fishing line and a 2 m custom delta with a 60 degree sweep works well. I have had it up to 2000m measured by a hang glider vario.

  • @Junior_Jackson
    @Junior_Jackson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We used bait casting reel and fishing poles to fly our kites growing up in the 90s. I've never seen anyone else do it since. The nylon/polyethylene string was cheap and worked great.

  • @JonathanSanderson
    @JonathanSanderson 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a bit more code in the next film with Hilary, which I'm finishing up now. I'm not sure what she uses for her finite element modelling, but the image analysis (which you'll see in that film) is currently implemented in MATLAB.
    I heartily agree that coding is cool, I just haven't yet worked out how to make films about it. Emphasis on the 'yet,' I hope.

  • @Frakka475
    @Frakka475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that a 6M or 12M parafoil on that tether: which would be what 240daN or 400daN

  • @leotard2536
    @leotard2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What line weight should I use for flying 300-500m? Do you think 30# is enough?

  • @NikoxD93
    @NikoxD93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want updates on her research! Seems interesting

  • @Herr2Cents
    @Herr2Cents 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. I wonder what the results were.

  • @ronfuller3596
    @ronfuller3596 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    you need a double tether so it dampens each other with rung pieces for spacers every 8x the width, a ladder tether.

  • @droceretik
    @droceretik 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how is the aerodynamic line profile going Hillary?

  • @snorkd123
    @snorkd123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing Thank you!

  • @jacekmak87
    @jacekmak87 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why it ended up so quick? Where's the second part?

  • @SkybowKite
    @SkybowKite 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very Interesting...

  • @raypsi1
    @raypsi1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that didn't look like a 20km length of line on the that spool nice thesis though

  • @zwerdlds
    @zwerdlds 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of us DO think writing code is sexy. What modeling framework are you using?

  • @stephenjstoddard
    @stephenjstoddard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing.

  • @JavierBonillaC
    @JavierBonillaC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I could watch physics explanations from this Phd. for days in a row.

  • @ianvirco4811
    @ianvirco4811 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have just 'stubbled' across this video and as a long time kite flyer (40 years !) interested in the science of why kites fly this is interesting to me.
    The flying line (never, ever call it the string !) is often the limiting factor when trying to fly at high altitudes, well high for me, approx 1000ft when i am allowed, by this altitude a smaller kite will reach its lift limit and due to its weight any additional flying line will lay across the ground, the aero drag making the line near vertical under the kite.
    For any further experiments you may need another type of kite, i have never been a fan of the flowform type ramair inflatable kite, it appears to fly with more drag than lift not gaining a good flight angle, hence any experiments with the flying line will not be presented to the wind at the the best angle acheivable by a kite.
    I had another version of 'parafoil' type kite, A Stratscoop by Greens of Burnely (ceased trading over 30 years ago sadly) compared to a flowform this kite has a much thinner aerofoil section and has an enclosed rounded leading edge, inflated by scoops on its underside (hence the name) this had a huge amount of lift and would fly nearly overhead in the ideal windspeed

  • @Zenobeus
    @Zenobeus 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I concur

  • @moonscience
    @moonscience 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking to make a kite or balloon with a fog net to get water from the clouds as part of Water Abundance XPRIZE. Looking for advice and team mates.

  • @zwerdlds
    @zwerdlds 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could start with broad strokes, RFP-level then cover the more interesting actual logical portions. Maybe even what modules are used; I'm not a ML user, but its interesting nonetheless (obviously).

  • @wmdbowman
    @wmdbowman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the stronger the thinner the better Kevlar

  • @Gstark88
    @Gstark88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are gorgeous!!

  • @MrBrownpalsam
    @MrBrownpalsam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    she is beautiful and stabilizing kite invention

  • @plushedro4751
    @plushedro4751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hermosa mujerona

  • @domhermen5800
    @domhermen5800 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ??

  • @voveve
    @voveve 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She's so cute! :)

  • @tanishatanisha8406
    @tanishatanisha8406 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ya hiiii kaya kar raha ha

  • @runinguy
    @runinguy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, pretty and smart

    • @alf6259
      @alf6259 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You talking to me?

  • @MindRiderFPV
    @MindRiderFPV 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Misleading title. You flew 200 feet maybe.

    • @droceretik
      @droceretik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      call the misleading title police.

  • @justins.vallestero721
    @justins.vallestero721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    20km is not possible, the sky is around 12km.

    • @droceretik
      @droceretik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then how do high performance military jets fly beyond 20 km and the U2 spy plane and Concord well above that? These aircraft require lift from atmosphere albeit very thin. My target for the kite train record is 40,000 ft. or 12,200 ft. Commercial jets fly at 14,000 metres (46,000 ft.). Perhaps you should look at Wikipedia before commenting.

  • @IonPowerGroup
    @IonPowerGroup 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo Hilary! Very nice research and video. My research firm is involved in atmospheric research that sometimes includes the use of tethers. I'd appreciate speaking with you about your research.
    I can be reached by using the company email address found at our website IonPowerGroup.com. Again, bravo! Lisa McCowen with Ion Power Group LLC.

    • @droceretik
      @droceretik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Lisa, small world. Did you read my post above I made 4 years ago? I'll be in touch soon about current developments in our high altitude kites. Bob M

  • @brianbassett4379
    @brianbassett4379 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be a whole lot most stable if it was ridged, wouldn't it? Stop it from fluttering in the wind. And my Grandma would smack you for "Using your teeth like that!"

  • @Snikern
    @Snikern 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    school me plz

  • @marnusjonker4076
    @marnusjonker4076 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ??