Producing lots of Manmade Energy! Bike Generator Upgrade!

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    In this video we will be once again having a look at my bike generator and upgrade it with the help of the feedback from my viewers. That means I will add a belt tensioner to the system, try out a different kind of alternator as well as a washing machine motor. And in the end I will be able to produce a decent amount of power on my own. 200W to be specific! Let's get started!
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    0:00 Bike Generator Upgrade overview
    0:55 Intro
    1:48 Improvement 1: Gear
    3:07 Improvement 2: Belt Tensioner
    5:54 Improvement 3: One Wire Alternator
    7:57 Improvement 4: Washing Machine Motor
    10:03 Verdict
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  • @Squiffel
    @Squiffel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +700

    Ok. Now add the flywheel. I won't get bored of this series until you run out of ways to optimize it XD

    • @giridharkumar6813
      @giridharkumar6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @firstidontknow8478
      @firstidontknow8478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That's actually a great idea!!!

    • @lexicase5642
      @lexicase5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @j fill lol yeah there’s no such thing as a free lunch so to speak, if you pay for food to eat, then go work it off pedaling this, you’re essentially paying for power at the grocery store. That would be an interesting conversion, food to kWh cost 😅

    • @NicholasLittlejohn
      @NicholasLittlejohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@lexicase5642 There's a tax case where a cyclist delivery person was able to deduct meals.

    • @ve2vfd
      @ve2vfd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yup, the momentum of a big heavy flywheel instead of the bike's back wheel would probably make keeping a constant speed easier. My exercise bike has a 45lbs steel flywheel and it just wants to keep spinning. Add to that the rear wheel's 5 gears cassette and a working derailleur and you can compensate the weight of the flywheel by gradually speeding up.

  • @Dante4F8
    @Dante4F8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    1.Make compact and add RGB.
    2.Rent to gyms and sell the energy produced.
    3.Profit.

    • @Fifsson_
      @Fifsson_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      RGB
      type: upgrade
      rarity:rare
      +10% power to everything with the upgrade applied

    • @ronald2042
      @ronald2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think many gyms already have this

    • @OldLukes
      @OldLukes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@ronald2042 No.
      All the bikes in Gyms have friction based pedaling resistance. Noone is havesting Energy from their customers xD

    • @timburger4754
      @timburger4754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@OldLukes I beg to differ. We do this, life fitness offers this system

    • @ThePunischer1000
      @ThePunischer1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@OldLukes Absolutely wrong. Most modern gyms have electronic loads ie motors but they don’t „harvest“ the energy to put it back into the power grid the bikes just Power themselves.

  • @watsok
    @watsok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Want more power? Lower losses in the generator chain by using bike chain vs Vbelts. Vbelts depend on friction to work, chain does not. Many decades of experimentation for reduced loss has gone into bicycles. Move the alternator closer and make extend the bike chain to it.

    • @colejohnson66
      @colejohnson66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If they’re worse than chains at energy transfer, why are they a thing?

    • @captainheat2314
      @captainheat2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@colejohnson66 vbelts are cheaper and manufacts sell them more

    • @69iqtutorial
      @69iqtutorial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@colejohnson66 they are better because they are smoother and cheaper as well

    • @69iqtutorial
      @69iqtutorial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@colejohnson66 and easier to produce

    • @Ed.R
      @Ed.R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@colejohnson66 Maintenance free just replace when worn. Chains need constant lubrication to last well.

  • @camielnijpels
    @camielnijpels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    You could make the idler pulley crowned so the belt centers itself on the crown of the pulley.

    • @rafaneka
      @rafaneka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that and a narrower frame with the springs on the outside would work better

  • @stormthrush37
    @stormthrush37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Very interesting DIY project, looking forward to seeing more of this. A thought occurs: a much more niche use for this. Instead of thinking of it in terms of providing all your household energy, thinking of it in terms of a combination of a backup power system for a green energy system and a means to deal with cabin fever during winter; a means to get some exercise indoors on a cold, cloudy winter's day while simultaneously having something to show for that work by recharging a low battery bank that's hasn't been getting recharged sufficiently from the connected solar panels that haven't been getting enough sun. Something like this might work for me; I don't need tons of electricity in winter, mostly just enough for a laptop, a cell phone, and lights.

  • @akshanshkmr
    @akshanshkmr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Not gonna lie, I had to lower the volume in the first couple of seconds 😂😂

    • @PCbolt17
      @PCbolt17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      True AF 🤣🤣

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Well.....do not close your eyes and just listen to the sound.

    • @arifqurbanov2159
      @arifqurbanov2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea man askdjhs

    • @sangrambhumia9320
      @sangrambhumia9320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Are bhai bhai bhai 😂

    • @emir4707
      @emir4707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmao

  • @dejanjankovic9765
    @dejanjankovic9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    A crude wind turbine with an asynchronous generator would be a neat project!

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wind turbines are engineered for this very thing. It's why i couldn't understand why so many suggested an automobile alternator.
      I plan to use a wind turbine motor for my power output. I will connect the shaft of the turbine directly to the bicycle wheel.

  • @juanherreros4761
    @juanherreros4761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    That tensor is not strong enough, a fixed tensor is much preferred than a low loaded sprint, in the old times all cars had manual tensors for example.
    Also, would be muuuch better to put the alternator closer to the wheel, and reduce the belt length as much as possible.
    Since 20 years ago, car alternators are equiped with an special pulley called clutch pulley, that only allows turning in one direction, this way, the variable counter resistance of the alternator shaft is atenued, and also helps to keep the rotational speed more stable when the rotational torque source is not constant (this is particularly useful with small diesel engines, as it's combustion is very "aggressive" and produce kinda sinusoidal functions, from the torque output point of view)

    • @eideticex
      @eideticex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds about right. On older cars I usually have to tension the belts using a 2ft crowbar to load it with enough tension to avoid slippage or jumping.

    • @ishankantbehera1875
      @ishankantbehera1875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eideticex amazing Drone experiments must watch and subscribe please 🙏

    • @LeonardGreenpaw
      @LeonardGreenpaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya, I think he was reluctant by some of the comments saying it was going to increase resistance.
      like ya, technically, but by a very small amount if you use a good bearing, the benefits outweigh the losses.

  • @jayvinstreet1876
    @jayvinstreet1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Okay Great Scott, I see you with the PS5 👀

  • @AccountInactive
    @AccountInactive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would love more "off grid" style electrical projects. I've been tinkering with a gravity battery that uses gear reduction and a slowly falling mass to turn a generator but I seem to be somewhat alone in this. All types of scavenging and repurposing of junk is super useful information in my post apocalyptic fantasy world 😁

    • @jasonbrown467
      @jasonbrown467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i plan on doing this. i do not know much about mechanical engineering, but i know i have 32 120ah lead acid batteries that i bought last year for my solar system and it seems like once they are done storing chemical energy i could use them as weight in a gravity system that can generate electrical power. use the sun to pick them up during the day, then let them fall back down to create electrical energy. i dont know where to begin but its in the back of my head. i think a battery will still be needed. to power switches, gears, sensors etc etc. might need a 10 story elevator shaft size vertical corridor and 2000 lbs all in one spot as one mass, rather than what i envisioned in my basement with many smaller systems lifting and dropping the weights.

    • @melkel2010
      @melkel2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use a big tank of water. It fills up at the top and spills when it reaches the bottom. Empty it can now be easily lifted back up to the top by an opposite tank of water that has become filled. The pulley that powers the alternator also mechanically powers the pulley that is rotating the tracks for the tanks, like a water wheel.

    • @eugeneputin1858
      @eugeneputin1858 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You will be sorely disappointed when you find out the mass/height youll need to make this a reality for anything useful.

  • @mike-rayner-videos
    @mike-rayner-videos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i love how you persevered.. you are honest and real.. you have my respect and very well done ❤️

  • @kaboom083
    @kaboom083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Congratulations on the effort of building this. I was really surprised in the previous video where you simply stated the power of the alternator at 1440W and somehow expected that it is possible for you to generate that? Because it is YOU who drives the generator. Conservation of energy and cyclists knowledge. Cycling Analytics has a great statistics article on "cycling power output" where you can see that a sustainable power output can range from 150-400W depending if you could qualify to win the next tour de France :) I would say don't expect much more than 200W long term (2h). Most people can achieve highest long term energy output at pedaling cadence of 70-80rpm and their heart rate below 150bpm. Good luck and enjoy the exercise ;)

  • @slimhazard
    @slimhazard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    All I needed to see was the intro to click the like button. The Great One had some fun this time.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It was a lot of work but also fun experiments :-)

    • @JjMn1000
      @JjMn1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @dreamlifter7569
      @dreamlifter7569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My parents👀👀

  • @jdmjesus6103
    @jdmjesus6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great result! If you want to improve the tensioner, a simple way would be to have it on a lever arm with a single pivot and a spring, instead of floating in the 2 slots. That way the orientation would be steady.

    • @Adrian2140
      @Adrian2140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This. This is how they do it on cars but I think he would need to upgrade to a proper metal frame. The wood is simply not that sturdy and I bet he's losing a lot of energy from the vibrations / lack of everything properly centered.

  • @YodaWhat
    @YodaWhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pro Tips: Add permanent magnets to the alternator rotor, in the gaps between the field fingers, to reduce or eliminate the need to waste power on the field windings. Use the middle speeds on the bicycle, where there is little or no sideways deflection on the chain to cause extra friction. Use the smallest drive belt you can find, both the width and the thickness, because you are never going to be transferring more than 500 watts (500 newton-meters per second) and much of the power is in the form of high speed rather than large force. And a 1 or 2-kg flywheel of plain flat steel at the alternator, and a larger battery, able to soak up more charging current at 12 volts.

  • @daffster13
    @daffster13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mother in law has been trying to talk me into setting up something like this because she saw someone doing it in Jamaica. I now have the data I need to convince her, that unless she wants to power the bike herself, it ain't happening. Thank you for your time and insight bro. Love your videos

  • @maks886
    @maks886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    When I'm watching GreatScott alone: *does normal electronics stuff*
    When I'm watching GreatScott and my parents come in: 0:00

  • @TheWanderingLynx
    @TheWanderingLynx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Turning the rear bike wheel into a flywheel would help with consistency when pedaling, it will take a little to start it going (move through the gears low to high) and it should make a big difference.

    • @link12313
      @link12313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He could also only turn on the exciter coil once he is at full speed to make starting it easier.

    • @rogerrabbit7469
      @rogerrabbit7469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I actually tried that. I purchased a Caterpillar flywheel which weighed 85 lbs I went to a machine shop and for $250 they attached a rear wheel bicycle sprocket to it.. so I replaced the regular back wheel and added this new monster flywheel to it...it took effort to start but once going I could coast and power appliances for various seconds depending on the load and was less fatigued. Heavy flywheels make the difference

    • @WisconsinEric
      @WisconsinEric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The suspension of the bike is wasting power too. Bikes without suspension are far more efficient on the streets, and in this video you can see the suspension flexing. Wasted power.

    • @melkel2010
      @melkel2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerrabbit7469 I'm glad you did this and also shared it. I'm thinking of a build using two flywheels with two clutches each: One clutch controls when you are feeding its flywheel, and the other clutch controls the flywheel feeding the alternator or motor. Then alternate the flywheels. While one flywheel feeds the alternator, you can be feeding the other flywheel.
      Maybe if you can build that, and I know it's going to be involved, but hopefully I'll run into you again and see how it worked.

  • @zone04010
    @zone04010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 2014, 2 French TH-camrs made such a bike generator. To do so, they used a 36V DC motor as a generator, and friction wheel as the link between the motor and the backwheel of the bike. They reached a peak of more than 500W with this setup.
    Maybe have a look at this ! The name of the channel is "Incroyables expériences"
    They do not have a lot of videos on the channel, so finding a 2014 video is still really easy.

  • @TheCompyshop
    @TheCompyshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think a great way to improve this setup is by looking more closely at off the shelf automotive parts. The belt tensioner for example can be replaced by an automotive one which has much lower rolling resistance. Also moving the bike closer to the alternator would be ideal, or even finding a way to mount the alternator onto the bike with some welded on metal brackets and a good automotive tensioner would really make the setup more efficient. You could also look into making the ribbed pulley on the alternator smaller so that it spins much faster. There are also higher output alternators on medium duty trucks. Pickup trucks have 200amp alternators and they are fairly low cost. Would make for a pretty nice upgrade for the 120amp unit you have! I love this series, please keep trying to make it better!

  • @Tarkov.
    @Tarkov. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This makes me really appreciate how good solar panels are.

    • @andriusst
      @andriusst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My thoughts exactly. For the price of bike and alternator you can buy at least 500w of new solar panels. And probably 1kw of used second hand

    • @johnwyman6126
      @johnwyman6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Micro Hydro power which used to use Automotive alternators, but people got sick of changing the brushes every few months to a year, so they started using brushless alternators. Energy Systems and design, motenergy, and also Harris hydroelectric uses them.

    • @CRneu
      @CRneu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnwyman6126 lots of micro hydro systems use washing machines. these systems run for 5+ years constantly.

  • @wolfiebo2209
    @wolfiebo2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I'd be interested to see how much power you're losing through the suspension. Every time you pedal there's a large amount of vertical and horizontal movement which will be lowering efficiency.

  • @johngoard8272
    @johngoard8272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have got to admire your tenacity in developing this project and I do like some of your logic when it comes to solving even the smallest of problems.

  • @spacewolfjr
    @spacewolfjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, I love when TH-camrs respond to suggestions and improve their projects. Thanks!

  • @phinok.m.628
    @phinok.m.628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The fact that you can regulate the strength of the (not permanent) magnets inside the alternator is not a bug, it's a feature. There is no "right" exciter current. Any normal permanent magnet generator is basically like an alternator with some fixed exciter current. Why not be creative? You can build a little Arduino controlled setup that regulates the exciter current to keep the speed constant. That way you have no resistance while speeding up and then if you pedal harder the alternator applies more resistance and produces more power, if you pedal less hard it applies less resistance and produces less power. If you want a simpler solution, you could also add a way to control the current while riding the bike (like a gear shifter). The possibilities are endless.

    • @ProposeleSS
      @ProposeleSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well, there is a way to optimise exciter current. this is done by measuring phase angle between output voltage and current. when there is no difference ( cos(phi) equals to 1) there is no reactive power. this is done on the industrial scale. it would be easy to implement with some arduino code

    • @endemiller5463
      @endemiller5463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would MPPT solar charge controller do this?

    • @1900OP
      @1900OP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ProposeleSS You're mistaken, there is no reactive power here.
      What you refer to is synchronous generators connected to a 3 phase network, you can have your generator take reactive power or supply reactive power to the network to balance the power factor, but that happens because the excitation current can set the EMF voltage at the output of the generator to be below, equal, or higher than the line voltage.
      Here the output is rectified, and it's DC.

  • @andreykldjian
    @andreykldjian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I've been enjoying this series. Just to get a little bit more out of the alternator, try to make the alternator pulley as small as possible. This should give you the maximum RPM on the alternator. If you really want to go crazy, you can do a 2 belt system with the bicycle tire reducing to a small pulley, which in turn would be attached to a larger pulley. The larger pulley would have a second belt to the alternator. I'm sure you understand the benefit i'm describing. This seems very fun.

    • @mikeymike437
      @mikeymike437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The torque would get way too high for him to be comfortably paddling...

    • @kenmore01
      @kenmore01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Or, go with a tandem bike and get someone to help! 😁

    • @joeledwards6587
      @joeledwards6587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Mikey Mike I agree, torque would be way beyond what someone can sustain peddling. Though if we could get a heavy flywheel into the setup that should also help to even out the variances, much like a capacitor smooths output before a load.
      The whole structure would likely need to be redesigned out of metal though, as a heavy flywheel carries a massive amount of energy so don't want that flying away.
      I also feel like the extra belts and pulleys and whatnot are all adding too much resistance for the legs, perhaps a chain like the bike's own would be better suited to reducing losses.
      Overall though that's a much bigger project, one I'd love to see though @GreatScott! maybe there's someone like @ColinFurze in Germany that can help you fabricate?

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeledwards6587 yep, that would be “The Post Apocalyptic Inventor”, look him up! He even did a documentary on fellow inventors and fabricators in Berlin, and would fit the bill perfectly.

    • @NicholasLittlejohn
      @NicholasLittlejohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flywheel as wheel

  • @drakedorosh9332
    @drakedorosh9332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Way to stimulate interaction. I look forward to part three when you explain how an alternator is designed to respond to load.

  • @Delali
    @Delali 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always loved how you investigate your builds to find alternate solutions. Also how you integrate your findings into your final solutions to make a complete build.
    You're awesome. I learn alot from your channel for mine.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you enjoy it!

    • @Delali
      @Delali 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greatscottlab Oh i really do brother.

  • @JensHeuschkel
    @JensHeuschkel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Now it would be nice if you create a arduino mppt tracker to find the best exciter current for your setup :)

    • @spagamoto
      @spagamoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't even need a current shunt, just use a mic and record how loud he yells while pedaling! Anyone remember the SparkFun treadmill?

  • @init_yeah
    @init_yeah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is actually a great way to get power while exercising

  • @diymonk6002
    @diymonk6002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people are inspired by you, one day I thought, why I can't do something like you? then I started my little experiments here I just reveal my tiny talent. this is that DIY MONK

  • @unclegreybeard3969
    @unclegreybeard3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still think you can get better results (higher RPM) by deleting the belt, rig the alternator so that it is directly driven by physical contact with the tyre. Then the whole thing could be upgraded by adding more alternators as needed evenly spaced around the wheel.

  • @lexicase5642
    @lexicase5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @greatscott I used a fisher and paykel smart drive washing machine motor, paired with a 15amp 3 phase rectifier and high voltage(500voc) mppt solar controller and was able to make a peak of 700w with my pedal powered bike, and around 300w quite comfortably. These motors are permanent magnet type 3 phase motor/generators and are commonly used for diy wind turbines.

    • @ownerkits3079
      @ownerkits3079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lexi, sorry for my ignorance. But is that enough to charge some large lithium batteries to then use a 12v inverter ? Would love to see your setup if you don’t mind sharing

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A slight convexity of the roller would also provide a self-tracking tendency to the tensioner

  • @LeonardGreenpaw
    @LeonardGreenpaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:32 OMG THAT'S ME! AHHHHH
    that feeling you get when sempai notices you
    XD

  • @bzqp2
    @bzqp2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video format! I've never witnessed a better demonstration of the creative power of the YT comments! (with Wintergatan being close in a few cases).

  • @cncrampage
    @cncrampage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Try to use some ebike eletric motor, they usually have magnets inside, could be a great alternative

  • @ast1527
    @ast1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome mate, really nice. We used to have that tiny lightbulb in the dash on the older cars and the battery drained fast if that bulb would die. Cheers!

  • @dannmarks
    @dannmarks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was really helpful. A friend is trying to setup a simple in stream generator for his cabin.

  • @3v068
    @3v068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESSSSS!!!! Glad you were able to make this project a success!!!!

  • @pavletrnic1433
    @pavletrnic1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love everything about him other the fact he keeps his ps5 horizontaly

    • @holgerwikingsen713
      @holgerwikingsen713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That should be illegal.

    • @WyllCavalcante
      @WyllCavalcante 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣
      My first contact with advanced engineering/electronic/electric…
      And descendent of a language that i want to learn… 🇩🇪!!!
      So inspiring! Keep it up!!! 👊💪🏼

  • @MegaSteamfreak
    @MegaSteamfreak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    200W casually lying around on the top of the expensive lab equipment....

    • @smk666
      @smk666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also that chain slack at 8:00. Dude, unlock that derailleur arm...

  • @jacobh8299
    @jacobh8299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see you use the alternator as a wind turbine. I love your videos. Thank you so much.

  • @mokeymokeybling
    @mokeymokeybling 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy to see a video utilizing an universalmoter/reihenschlussmotor. I would really enjoy a video where you show how much force such motors produce in the lower rpm range.

  • @negril_rasta
    @negril_rasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Next time plz use a 1000w dc bike motor 😁
    Or a 400w low rpm wind turbine motor

  • @dr.palsonp.h.d815
    @dr.palsonp.h.d815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    that tension rig was the worst way to do it. all you needed was a pully with two long nuts and a mounting plate...

    • @johnnyhammersticks1695
      @johnnyhammersticks1695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also the pulley should have a wider radius in the center than the edges. It keeps the belt centered and prevents the belt from slipping off. Steve mould has a video about it th-cam.com/video/TNuzi-jMXoY/w-d-xo.html

    • @dr.palsonp.h.d815
      @dr.palsonp.h.d815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnyhammersticks1695 yea that makes sense, or it could have wider radius of edges and a deeper groove..

    • @Dante4F8
      @Dante4F8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.palsonp.h.d815 you dont need a a bigger radius on the edges, watch the video it is quite on point

    • @quadracycle4000
      @quadracycle4000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, now the entire maker's side of youtube is FLOODED with this comment. Crown pulleys always; Steve Mould says so!

    • @jdmjesus6103
      @jdmjesus6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well just mounting the pulley on a sprung lever would be the simplest way.

  • @Rouverius
    @Rouverius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did I miss this one? Loving the Iterative design process.

  • @watup110875
    @watup110875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job as always

  • @DuudSimon
    @DuudSimon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ive noticed when i tried this a while back, that you can make the secondary windings self excite with high enough rpm without a battery attatched.

  • @patrickmaris
    @patrickmaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Eyy got a job at a electronics store in the Netherlands. They sell almost everything. From small components to electronic appliances
    (Good to learn from)

    • @lpt2606
      @lpt2606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1) you are doing a fantastic job at promoting hahaha 2) what is the store's name?
      groetjes uit belgie

    • @colejohnson66
      @colejohnson66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We used to have that in the US: RadioShack and Fry’s Electronics. Sadly, it’s more profitable to sell things other than electronic components. Such as phones and appliances.

    • @patrickmaris
      @patrickmaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lpt2606 okaphone electronica

    • @patrickmaris
      @patrickmaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colejohnson66 yeah, we see that the hobby as in electronics is kinda heading downwards. That's why we also took other things in stock.

    • @patrickmaris
      @patrickmaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colejohnson66 we also see that the people are coming less to our store physically and more people buy from our webshop

  • @edmardupreez8742
    @edmardupreez8742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagin having 20 of these in a gym that has spinning classes all day. Could make some good free power

    • @mich29sm
      @mich29sm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And use 'smart contract' to attract customers. More often they visiting your gym, the more they generate, the cheaper monthly membership!

  • @Anne--Marie
    @Anne--Marie ปีที่แล้ว

    Your explanations are as good as Jeremy Fielding's. With different content, I am learning from you both. Thank you!

  • @zentrobi1548
    @zentrobi1548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hmmm couldn't he just use a fly-wheel to make the rotation stable when it regulates its self only downside should be that its abit harder to start untill the wheel is up to speed

  • @ericblenner-hassett3945
    @ericblenner-hassett3945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Next step, make 4 of them and open a cycling class to power your place.

  • @RCAVDH
    @RCAVDH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for sharing!

  • @mohammedabrarahmed3299
    @mohammedabrarahmed3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Scott. Nice to see you. Seeing you for the first time since I watch your videos

  • @sanveersookdawe
    @sanveersookdawe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's not bad at all if you only have to peddle 1.43 years for 1 year worth of power from simply paddling on a bicycle.
    That's pretty crazy actually

    • @PeterMilanovski
      @PeterMilanovski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But when you think about it, that is based on his current Electric bill, and it's only that much because we are all used to just plugging in stuff and not worrying about how much electricity we use!
      I think that if he began to look at what he can replace with something more efficient, he will cut down on his bill and the figure of 1.43 year's will come down!

  • @RadioFreeRich
    @RadioFreeRich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you considered adding a flywheel? The mass of the flywheel may help maintain RPM at the higher current levels.

  • @jonnporter6081
    @jonnporter6081 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you print the pulleys, print the outsides a little taller, thus, making the inside track a little deeper. That may help with the belt coming off until you get the tensioner set correctly. Great video.

  • @KamranKhan-co6ox
    @KamranKhan-co6ox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see the changes in the thumbnail Scott 😄. Keep it up!

  • @MichaelSantos-ru3bb
    @MichaelSantos-ru3bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    4:31 those bearings seem like they are almost seized.

    • @BlackWolf42-
      @BlackWolf42- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he beat the heck out of them with a hammer. They're woofed.

    • @officer_baitlyn
      @officer_baitlyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      prob undersized the holes on the 3d print a bit too much

    • @TheSimpsoys
      @TheSimpsoys 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He definitely bent something because wailing on the middle of it with a hammer that's how NOT to press in a bearing lol

    • @JoeGP
      @JoeGP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@officer_baitlyn i really doubt the plastic pulley had enough strength to squeeze the metal ball bearing housing so tight it would seize it, but who knows.

  • @martinlabuda117
    @martinlabuda117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 1,4 years of workout for the year of electricity was best moment.

  • @01Hudesohn
    @01Hudesohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Project.

  • @ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon
    @ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great update on your bike generator!!!

  • @Christian.987
    @Christian.987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Dad i wanna to watch television!"
    "A minutes honey i get ready to workout first"

  • @euleausberlin
    @euleausberlin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    add a crypto miner to the output and you get paid for doing workout :D

    • @Kevin-jz9bg
      @Kevin-jz9bg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      XD
      or inverter and feed it to the grid

    • @ancapftw9113
      @ancapftw9113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mining generally only earns a bit above the cost of electricity. So, say that's $0.15 per kWh. 200 watts for one hour would be .2kwh, or 3 cents of crypto.
      Doable, but not the best.
      He should probably just put a halfbarrell VAWT on it to turn it and leave it outside.

    • @iceefrags8770
      @iceefrags8770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ancapftw9113 if hes generating 200w constant, you can power a basic, 1 GPU Ethereum rig using say an RTX 3060 ti. the GPU pulls 120W when mining and the wimpy CPU and RAM would pull like 50-60 ish if you optimize for power usage and get like an intel atom cpu or something. mining with the RTX 3060ti for 1 hour at 60MH/s would net you, $0.19/hr

  • @lipelego22
    @lipelego22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video man, really experimenting with generators, this answer a lot of mine doubts about DIY power generation

  • @californiakayaker
    @californiakayaker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another idea for you. If you take a piece of that type of belt and glue it to the bike wheel, you then can place the alternator belt inside those tracks and reduce any inclination for the belt to go side to side ! ! ! The unit might have a use for some of the sailors when they are in particualy foggy areas as they sometimes are relying on solar panels and their engines. But, if they are in the middle of the ocean, they can't afford to waste the diesel . So, they just sit there, needing something to do, and little by little losing all of their battery power. And, at the same time, gaining weight and being bored.

  • @rubabmubarrat
    @rubabmubarrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    scott other days: does normal Electronics stuff
    *scott when my Parents come: **0:00*

  • @matejbrezan6887
    @matejbrezan6887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    wouldn’t it be better to use bldc motor ? maybe even fitting the bike with hub motor

    • @jonclement
      @jonclement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      some builds put the BLDC right into the back of a smart trainer setup on the hub. so sounds like a good idea

  • @diogo9016
    @diogo9016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ótima idéia. Vou correr atrás de um alternador de carro para fazer um. Assim faço exercícios também.

  • @draemalic
    @draemalic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos for your budget, keep them coming. You can use a chain and add teeth to the rotor on whatever electrical generator you choose. That will eliminate slipping. You can also use a series of gear changes between the bike and the electrical generator to increase RPM at the electrical generator at the desired AMP level. You can also add a flywheel to store rotational energy to make it easier at speed to maintain a constant rate of pedaling. Time to learn how to weld my friend, zip ties are not going to cut it. Thank you so much for the videos, you are inspiring.

  • @ipodfernando
    @ipodfernando 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You could get a better output with a bike hub motor or a hover board motor too, also a permanent magnet wash machine motor as well, they are all pretty much the same…

  • @wadeh486
    @wadeh486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was hoping you broke the laws of energy creation... 200w is awesome thou

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks😁

    • @Richardincancale
      @Richardincancale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greatscottlab How much power does the exciter take (W), you need to subtract that from the headline power output figure? Hopefully less than 200W ;-)

  • @gameyord7182
    @gameyord7182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally y wanted to see this proyect finished

  • @therandomguy7738
    @therandomguy7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow start was pretty epic😂😂

  • @muhammadjibrael3649
    @muhammadjibrael3649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My old memories 1990s i did use car selfsetarting moter for this purpose and got more power.. thanks

  • @gabrielgomescunha
    @gabrielgomescunha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Your "carpentry" skills are in need of a little upgrade 😂

    • @eugenefrancisco1029
      @eugenefrancisco1029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't say that
      He can make it better but that's only for the test.

    • @dr.palsonp.h.d815
      @dr.palsonp.h.d815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol true, that tension rig was the pretty dumb

  • @nick86i
    @nick86i ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you can add a flywheel, improve the tensioner so that you can tension it once and then fix it in place (using some screws) and use a bearing for less friction, add some (super)capacitors, a buck/boost converter for stabilizing the voltage, some batteries with BMS, an usb-C charger, an energy counter that shows how much kWh were produced, etc (end of thinking capacity) :D

  • @b4urEnvy
    @b4urEnvy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an entertaining channel, nice work great scott

  • @someguy2741
    @someguy2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You need to tie the output to the exciter so it self excites. That is how all alternators work. Essentially this is what you did with the one wire version.
    You can also buy an external regulator with you first version. That regulator has a screw to set the output. You could then let the alternator self excite by hooking the output to the field. Then you could put a knob on the external regulator... or you could like the output to allow reasonable peddling.

    • @colejohnson66
      @colejohnson66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After tying the output to the input, just remove the belt. *F R E E E N E R G Y*

    • @someguy2741
      @someguy2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colejohnson66 lol

    • @someguy2741
      @someguy2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colejohnson66 Dont do that. The alternator will run faster and faster and faster until it rips a hole in time and the entire universe is sucked through it.

  • @rohanpawar1603
    @rohanpawar1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hire someone who loves pedaling 😁😁

  • @jensuwesander
    @jensuwesander 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice bike mr. great scott

  • @jimurrata6785
    @jimurrata6785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a very nice looking auto-transformer you have @ 9:00 ! 👍

  • @nothing-mm8ui
    @nothing-mm8ui 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Power a pc with it and put the monitor and keyboard in front of the bike so you can play minecraft.
    Just think about it, you get exercise while saving on electricity while playing games.

  • @poothrowingape
    @poothrowingape 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do peoples support material come off so clean? Whenever I use supports they leave scars behind after being removed. What settings are people using!?

    • @londonnight937
      @londonnight937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      modify the settings in your slicer so that the distance between the support and the piece is greater. Experiment in 0.2mm increments.

  • @DrJALAGHARI
    @DrJALAGHARI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great. Wonderful video with nice explanation and implementation of the idea.

  • @johnwyman6126
    @johnwyman6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Motorcycle alternators are permanent magnet alternators and are much more efficient. A similar but larger version can be had from direct drive washing machines that don't have belts. Mostly front loaders these days, older ones were top loading Fisher and Paykel.

  • @mr.unknown1386
    @mr.unknown1386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Making energy and burning calories!

    • @BlackWolf42-
      @BlackWolf42- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Converting energy and burning calories!

  • @aarkln
    @aarkln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Scrap everything, use a hub motor, replace the bicycle rear wheel with it.

  • @my3dprintedlife
    @my3dprintedlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a great day with Great Scott!

  • @liquidsonly
    @liquidsonly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As simple sketches go, that's on of the finest.

  • @sethsbikehacks2730
    @sethsbikehacks2730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel got 1000% better when he started talking to the camera.

  • @LewisUpperton
    @LewisUpperton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly 200W is pretty impressive, and likely the most you could really expect to get out of this system. Professional cyclists, for example, can supposedly generate in the order of 400W (based on a minute of research), so 200W seems like a pretty respectable result.
    About the only improvements you could make to the system are in reliability and consistency instead.

    • @epicpl6376
      @epicpl6376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      400W is there FTP which means, they can hold it continiously. While sprinting, a professional cyclist can paddle over 1000W for a few seconds to minutes.

    • @321ooo123
      @321ooo123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      400W is what they are able to generate using the body's aerobic system, which means they are able to hold at that power level for hours. Peak power levels (using anaerobic system) are above 1kW. Even an amateur can sustain 1000W for a couple of seconds.

  • @gene450000
    @gene450000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job.

  • @gmourao
    @gmourao 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do not quit. Maybe a bldc it's the solution, and the perfect way to achieve controllable resistance. Teslas are great generators!

  • @itecko2193
    @itecko2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    200W is not huge .. a French TH-camr "incroyable experience" arrives at 555W, the name of the video is " Produire le maximum d'électricité avec un vélo "

    • @mathieub3953
      @mathieub3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peak Power is not equal to continuous. A young male has an average of 100W continuous. As road cyclist e.g. I peak at 1200W for less than 5sec but my continuous is somewhere at 200W.

    • @itecko2193
      @itecko2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mathieub3953 yes i agree with that, it all depends on the duration ;)

  • @manojv4037
    @manojv4037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video man 👍👍

  • @alice20001
    @alice20001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love this channel

  • @marynunn1708
    @marynunn1708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of lost energy in both the belt friction and the alternator’s cooling fan.
    Suggest ditching the rear rim and mounting chain driven hoverboard motor where the rear axle is. If the motor RPM isnt high enough, may need to insert an intermediate shaft. Great video and project. Love your scientific approach!