"Something seems odd about Elizabeth. None of us had any trouble following her train of thought or understanding what she was saying. Something was clearly wrong."
@@juanpablorobayo9891 Yes and no Yes because in the Persona universe gods are formed from the human unconsciousness and no because they're special in a way they can manifest into the real world and actual affect things
...since no one else seems to of mentioned it, I'll do it. Elizabeth said that Zeus was shut out of the world that they are in. It actually quite easy to figure out how this is possible if you remember that Zen was original known as Chronos, who was Zeus's father in Greek Mythology. In other words, the final boss is actually Zeus's dad. Surprising, yes?
Leobhart Surprisingly, you're right, although their names are similar, so do forgive me for the confusion. However, it seems that the two deities having similar names is NOT a coincidence, according to some. Some believe that Cronos is considered as an aspect of time that devours all things, and that Cronos is an alternate name to Chronos, or at least the Greek word for time. The Renaissance period pretty much fused Cronos and Chronos as concepts into "Father Time", which only adds to the confusion of anyone who doesn't look this stuff up to check for the difference between them. And to make it more interesting, it's Father Time, not Cronos or Chronos, who is considered as the Grim Reaper, or Death, which is what Zen was originally, so depending on how the sea of souls or whatever the system of the powers that be work in this series, Zen may very well be one or the other, both, or even neither.
Yuzo Koshiro (He does the music for Etrian Odyssey) BLAZIN on that ost. As you can imagine by the trumpets, Yuzo' favorite pokemon region is Hoenn. Zeus' design on his card was also done by the artist for Etrian Odyssey, Yuji Himukai.
Hoenn, land of water and trumpets :P Now im jealous of PQ.....I want an adversary boss theme this slammin and jammin for EO: Mystery Dungeon AND EO5 now.....T.T
This is without a doubt the best fight in the entire game so far. The feeling of dread is so present, and Elizabeth genuinely scared me when I saw her. The music also is the most Etrian Odyssey-ish one yet. This plot-twist definitely was interesting to see, it shows that when one is too obsessed with power, it can corrupt you hard.
He may be hinting at both. Remember in the P5 trailer when MC had blue flames running over him as his "Awakening"? That might be similar to what Zeus did to Elizabeth, only on a more subtle level of change.
hermesleao It would be interesting to use him,but since he already belongs to a character in P1 it would be unlikely for him to appear in P5.Although there were some exceptions,Like Isis,which belongs to Yukari from P3,appearing as a normal persona in P4.So Hades could still appear. Edit: I got it all wrong,he appeared in P2,not P1.
***** Yeah,I'm really curious to see who will the new Personas be.Maybe Hindu gods? Sure,Atlus already messed a lot with Hindu lore in other games ( DDS Saga
Now this is a 100% pure reference to Atlus's Etrian Odyssey franchise for one the design of Zeus was designed by Yuji Himukai who is the character artist for the series. I am sure that some have already mentioned but the this particular track that plays for this fight was composed by Yuzo Koshiro who is the composer for the series. He is also well known for many other incredible soundtracks, Streets of Rage, Actraiser 1&2, and most importantly Ys I-III. FYI this track is called "Disturbances: The One Called From Beyond" which the surname Disturbances is used for some of the remix tracks from Etrian Odyssey III but I digress. Whats interesting is that this particular character has not been in any Etrian Odyssey games as of yet. I think we can expect this to end up like Vincent from Catherine, a small reference to their next game in the franchise. Also if I had to compare this music track to his other works in Etrian Odyssey its similar to the first battle theme from Etrian Odyssey IV. I hope this track gets an epic remix in whatever future game it may appear in cause its epic.
So poison in this game does damage equal to 15.38% of the target's max HP at the end of each turn. The exact number is rounded down to an integer though.
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for this one! Told you da music would be slammin' :P You *really* brought out the big guns for this one! Mahakala and Yoshitsune rape face. The next secret boss is quite a doozy. But you've got it no prob.
Considering Liz wanted my best (even though we technicaly didn't fight "her") I wanted to not let her down :p Oh man, I have a feeling you will like the next one the way I did it haha.
Why did Elizabeth use the Nordic Sephiroth to summon a Greek God? And why would Zeus live under the Yggdrasil? Did someone on the development team mix up Zeus and Thor? Even his description of his home sounds more like Valhalla than Olympus.
Wakka Seta I'll guess he's actually from Etrian Odyssey 5, it'd make sense with Yggdrasil and "a land of odyssey and exploration". Not only that, his design and theme were both made by people behind Etrian Odyssey. I'd imagine he'd be something like Etreant from EO and the Overlord from EO2.
Wakka Seta Same reason why a Buddhist deity that was derived from the Hindu/Vedic Shiva and evetually became a Lucky God in Japan (Mahakala) can learn an attack whose name is French and is type of art genre about the universal reachh of Death (Danse Macabre) which contains what is more or less Smaurai visuals (the Cherry Blossoms) ...No one knows what that reason is :P
Of course Danse Macabre is French. Should have known when it said "Danse" instead of "Dance." But then I thought "Macabre" was Spanish. Either way, it means Dance of Death.
Sure let's fuse the persona which overtook one of the most powerfull entities in the entire persona universe, what could possibely go wrong there -____-
You don't think that Zeus did something to Elizabeth while she was under his spell as why she mentioned the phrase "The Radiance of life I do not posses"......right?
Zeus was originally a character from persona 2 I think, where he had a major influence over the plot. He is basically one of the strongest characters in the verse, and had a domain over life energy. Him possessing Elizabeth raises MANY questions about how personas work...
@@zaqareemalcolmTo be fair, Caroline and Justine give you that, and let you do it even after the reveal. Its implied that both "Igor" and Igor know that the protagonist can handle it.
Zeus' Design as well the gameplay mechanics of this game and dungeoneering are a reference to the game series Persona Q crosses' with also by Atlus. Etrian Odyssey. Yggdrasil is a Giant Tree linked to one of the main Dungeons as well as having a significance to the plot which changes with each game.
Heroic Gemini has a low chance of activating and can be learned by anyone with the right skill card/sub-persona. Golden Gemini has a medium chance and is exclusive to Junpei's ascended Persona (Trismegistus).
"I am Zeus"
"Something seems odd about Elizabeth"
Yeah, no shit.
"Something seems odd about Elizabeth."
Honestly, when is she not? But that's what we love about her.
"Something seems odd about Elizabeth. None of us had any trouble following her train of thought or understanding what she was saying. Something was clearly wrong."
Duh!
She loves humanity so much she does plays!
I feel like they gave her blue eyes because she already had Shadow Eyes.
well shadows aren't gods, right?
@@juanpablorobayo9891 Yes and no
Yes because in the Persona universe gods are formed from the human unconsciousness and no because they're special in a way they can manifest into the real world and actual affect things
Actually it’s because Elizabeth can’t control Zeus because she isn’t strong enough
So this is why you never can fuse a Persona above your own level... xP
Toonzsedaki So, Zeus was above Elizabeth's level.. woah.
Azure Phoenix Actually, probably higher since she got possessed instead.
+MarionAct So I did some looking around... Elizabeth in this fight is Lv90, Zeus is Lv91. =P
kirby5790
THANK YOU! FREAKING THANK YOU! YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW HAPPY I AM THAT YOU POSTED THAT!
+MarionAct I guess that does make since
This isn't the first time Zeus has been inside a woman...
This is mythologically correct.
Or anything else for that matter
also is not the first time he forced his way in...
+Lucifer Omega Avatar well juno IS technically present in this battle, what with fuuka's reborn persona and all..........
Kingnewgameplus no u
did i just see an entire party of five not get hit a megidolaon
Yes
Its rare, but yes
>Uses Hassou Tobi, a good multi hit move to beat Zeus
>Gets to fuse Zeus, who has another awesome multi hit move
This game makes Multi-hit moves op.
Zeus. Lover of freedom and women. Yeah ... Heracles/Hercules, Apollo, Artemis, Athena, Ares, etc are evidence enough for that claim.
xercespriest lol yeah, when I read that in the game I was like: "yup... sounds about right"
True. Although some of those came out of his head and thigh, which I think technically counts as asexual reproduction.
+omegaevolution And he leaves his undies as a souvenir.
women, men, (whether they were in human form or not), Ganymede...
biggest horndog in any mythology I think
He loves woman physically, and he loves the freedom to "love" those woman.
Elizabeth
because you haven't played persona until you get caught up in one of her glorious, life-threatening acme schemes!
...since no one else seems to of mentioned it, I'll do it.
Elizabeth said that Zeus was shut out of the world that they are in. It actually quite easy to figure out how this is possible if you remember that Zen was original known as Chronos, who was Zeus's father in Greek Mythology. In other words, the final boss is actually Zeus's dad.
Surprising, yes?
KitsuneHaru You are actually wrong. Zeus' father is CRONOS, not Chronos. They are two different deities
Leobhart Surprisingly, you're right, although their names are similar, so do forgive me for the confusion. However, it seems that the two deities having similar names is NOT a coincidence, according to some. Some believe that Cronos is considered as an aspect of time that devours all things, and that Cronos is an alternate name to Chronos, or at least the Greek word for time. The Renaissance period pretty much fused Cronos and Chronos as concepts into "Father Time", which only adds to the confusion of anyone who doesn't look this stuff up to check for the difference between them. And to make it more interesting, it's Father Time, not Cronos or Chronos, who is considered as the Grim Reaper, or Death, which is what Zen was originally, so depending on how the sea of souls or whatever the system of the powers that be work in this series, Zen may very well be one or the other, both, or even neither.
They call the final boss their dad anyways ingame sooo...
That, or it's just one massive nod to the EO influence for Zeus. Fuck, he might as well be a superboss in those games anyway.
That is actually really cool!
.....Did Zeus literally just give you his fucking underwear as a "blessing"? XD
After a night inside a lady one cannot grab all his garments
I'm glad to see that Hassou Tobi is still as op as usual.
destinydragonGino Its kinda hard to believe it actually got buffed in this game thanks to how ridiculous multi-hit moves are in general xD
See, this happened cuz she did it outside the Velvet Room.
Nameless nor Belladona could calm down Zeus, and thus he took Elizabeth :3
Great teory, apart i'm surprised someone remember Belladona and Nameless
Yuzo Koshiro (He does the music for Etrian Odyssey) BLAZIN on that ost. As you can imagine by the trumpets, Yuzo' favorite pokemon region is Hoenn.
Zeus' design on his card was also done by the artist for Etrian Odyssey, Yuji Himukai.
Hoenn, land of water and trumpets :P
Now im jealous of PQ.....I want an adversary boss theme this slammin and jammin for EO: Mystery Dungeon AND EO5 now.....T.T
And Zeus's statements referred to alot of the EO series
There was alot of hints going on in this video haha
When you said the music was made by eq's composer, I immediately thought"oh yeah this song has that vibe"
His art on the card is better then his most recent outing
3:55 "Did she fail the fusion again?"
"Don't ask me, I only summon from the compendium."
Dude, I got scared at Elizabeth turning into Zeus. That voice though... My god, you sure know how to show the game who's the real boss.
Junpei: our blue lady is....kinda dangerous...
Yosuke: Dangerous?
Junpei: You'll find out...
*i see what Junpei was talking about*
*Sees Elizabeth get Possessed by Zeus* NO! What has Science done!?!
This is without a doubt the best fight in the entire game so far. The feeling of dread is so present, and Elizabeth genuinely scared me when I saw her. The music also is the most Etrian Odyssey-ish one yet.
This plot-twist definitely was interesting to see, it shows that when one is too obsessed with power, it can corrupt you hard.
Diarahan... I take you were expecting that 14000 HP recovery? It took ME by surprise that's for sure.
Santiago Sanabria At this point, expect all persona optional bosses near later in the game to use diarahan, haha....Old Doll....
Diarahan is a full heal skill.
It felt like he was hinting about Persona 5 stuff at first but then it felt like he was hinting at Etrian Oddyssey 5 stuff
He may be hinting at both.
Remember in the P5 trailer when MC had blue flames running over him as his "Awakening"? That might be similar to what Zeus did to Elizabeth, only on a more subtle level of change.
+Tytan Havok It's definently EO5. Yggdrassil and Oddyssey are proof enough.
“Something seems odd about Elizabeth” understatement of the century
It’s stupid that Zeus knows Diarahan.
Team: We almost got her guys
Zeus: bing bong you’re wrong
Zeus: *uses Diarahan*
Team: ... the fuck
Original Elizabeth would use diarahan if she was below 9999 hp so you had to use Armageddon to kill her on that turn… and you had to solo her
AND THEN ALONG CAME ZEUS
Wonder if more Greek Gods will be Personas in 5.
That was fun.
Omega Zero Alpha Hades already appeared in Persona 1 though.
Edit: persona 2*
hermesleao It would be interesting to use him,but since he already belongs to a character in P1 it would be unlikely for him to appear in P5.Although there were some exceptions,Like Isis,which belongs to Yukari from P3,appearing as a normal persona in P4.So Hades could still appear.
Edit: I got it all wrong,he appeared in P2,not P1.
Omega Zero Alpha Nevermind that,he appeared on persona 2,not 1.I got it wrong.
They used a lot of the Greek Gods so I don't know what more can they get.
***** Yeah,I'm really curious to see who will the new Personas be.Maybe Hindu gods? Sure,Atlus already messed a lot with Hindu lore in other games ( DDS Saga
Now this is a 100% pure reference to Atlus's Etrian Odyssey franchise for one the design of Zeus was designed by Yuji Himukai who is the character artist for the series. I am sure that some have already mentioned but the this particular track that plays for this fight was composed by Yuzo Koshiro who is the composer for the series. He is also well known for many other incredible soundtracks, Streets of Rage, Actraiser 1&2, and most importantly Ys I-III. FYI this track is called "Disturbances: The One Called From Beyond" which the surname Disturbances is used for some of the remix tracks from Etrian Odyssey III but I digress.
Whats interesting is that this particular character has not been in any Etrian Odyssey games as of yet. I think we can expect this to end up like Vincent from Catherine, a small reference to their next game in the franchise. Also if I had to compare this music track to his other works in Etrian Odyssey its similar to the first battle theme from Etrian Odyssey IV. I hope this track gets an epic remix in whatever future game it may appear in cause its epic.
That BGM tho...blew me off
Aki Geki yeah!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
So poison in this game does damage equal to 15.38% of the target's max HP at the end of each turn. The exact number is rounded down to an integer though.
Which can kill in 7 turns. Talk about OP.
Musta be Mystery Food X enhanced poison!
strong enough to beat zeus, is not a high enough level to fuse him :/
its one thing to gank on him 1v6. its another to actually control him alone.
Yeah that's cause they aren't trying to control him solo, but fight him as a group to show their bonds and proving its a genuine bond of strength.
I can't get enough of the battle music!! Definitely the best battle music I have ever heard in any video game in my opinion!
"Something seems off about Elizabeth" YEAH NO SHIT
Gee game, YOU THINK WE COULDN'T TELL?!
NO NOT AGAIN
wait im not even in this hahahaha-
It's official... Zeus in any incarnation has the biggest ego of anyone... -__-
14:20 Etrian Odyssey reference.
Me: (zeus shows up and starts talking smack about friendship and bonds) oh yeah? well how about this, FLYING FRIENDSHIP ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+LeonDahbot ᅚ ᅚ So you're the one behind all this, huh?
Joker will put a HOLE in that argument quick
"We're gonna beat the CRAP outta Elizibeth, end of story!" *And this is why RISE is best girl.*
Probably the best part about this fight is the amazing battle music. It's so jazzy, I love it! :D
Can’t go wrong with Yuzo Koshiro composing it!
Anyone else noticed that Zeus changed his form after the first Diarahan?
K•コッパ T•テング kkk
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for this one! Told you da music would be slammin' :P
You *really* brought out the big guns for this one! Mahakala and Yoshitsune rape face. The next secret boss is quite a doozy. But you've got it no prob.
Considering Liz wanted my best (even though we technicaly didn't fight "her") I wanted to not let her down :p
Oh man, I have a feeling you will like the next one the way I did it haha.
Like Elizabeth herself aren't hard enough...
Why did Elizabeth use the Nordic Sephiroth to summon a Greek God? And why would Zeus live under the Yggdrasil? Did someone on the development team mix up Zeus and Thor? Even his description of his home sounds more like Valhalla than Olympus.
Wakka Seta I'll guess he's actually from Etrian Odyssey 5, it'd make sense with Yggdrasil and "a land of odyssey and exploration". Not only that, his design and theme were both made by people behind Etrian Odyssey. I'd imagine he'd be something like Etreant from EO and the Overlord from EO2.
Wakka Seta no thats not nordic it's in the kabbalah Israelite mythology
Mythology mashups are par for the course when it comes to SMT. It's what got me hooked on the series in the first place.
true dat
Wakka Seta Same reason why a Buddhist deity that was derived from the Hindu/Vedic Shiva and evetually became a Lucky God in Japan (Mahakala) can learn an attack whose name is French and is type of art genre about the universal reachh of Death (Danse Macabre) which contains what is more or less Smaurai visuals (the Cherry Blossoms)
...No one knows what that reason is :P
Zeus has 2 forms in this game, Normal and Warrior. Both can be called on as sub personas, which I thought was entertaining.
7:57 // 7:58
666
junpei noooooooooo
Well... Danse Macabre means Dance of Death so 666 should be the damage it should do all the time?
God...I love Persona Q's soundtrack....
Elizazeus? Elizeusbeth?
Actually the nickname Elizadeath doesn't sound too bad now.
I could tell exactly what this person was thinking at 11:34
"The hell I just put heat riser on!" XD
Of course Danse Macabre is French. Should have known when it said "Danse" instead of "Dance." But then I thought "Macabre" was Spanish.
Either way, it means Dance of Death.
This is what happens when you summon a superboss from Etrian Odyssey.
Hopefully this means that this Zeus guy has something to do with Etrian Odyssey 5. EO5's final or Stratum 6 boss, maybe?
0-0 spooky and also sweet mother of the gods that was epic
Disturbances, The One Called From Beyond.
THIS OST MAKES ME SO HAPPY
Zeus is designed by an Etrian Odyssey artist.
"We're going to beat the crap outta Elizabeth! End if story!" I love you rise XD
I just noticed auto correct changed "of" to "if"
Trace da yoshi yeah!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
Sure let's fuse the persona which overtook one of the most powerfull entities in the entire persona universe, what could possibely go wrong there -____-
man this is the most EO song in the game.
It is a EO song
Literally
9:27 that dreadful Diarahan...
Im guessing is 14000000 max HP.
You don't think that Zeus did something to Elizabeth while she was under his spell as why she mentioned the phrase "The Radiance of life I do not posses"......right?
I have PTSD from the p3 battle this has to be hell
as a farmer's ass.... died laughing
Wow this music fits right in the fight and its great jam.too
Huh... it seems to have gone differently than planned.
Consider that this Persona was strong enough to possess and overpower ELIZABETH. One of those who reside over power.
Zeus was originally a character from persona 2 I think, where he had a major influence over the plot. He is basically one of the strongest characters in the verse, and had a domain over life energy. Him possessing Elizabeth raises MANY questions about how personas work...
It ain't Zeus without a woman getting effed in an unorthodox way.
17:48 I *really* hoped that he washed that.
"ITS ALWAYS MY TURN"
that 14000 diahran though o_o...
Malcolm Fitzpatrick exactly
Pretty damn convincing way of saying "please try etrian odyssey" for those who haven't yet :P
9:32 that attack damage though lol
Zeus you talking to much from Etrian Odyssey.
is nice to see a boss that is made with the artwork of EO but man i wanted to see a giant boss.
This is why you are not able to summon higher level demons in smt, leveling up is canon
this puts "igor" in P5 letting you use higher level personas if you pay him in a darker light
@@zaqareemalcolmTo be fair, Caroline and Justine give you that, and let you do it even after the reveal. Its implied that both "Igor" and Igor know that the protagonist can handle it.
I can't make out what Zeus is suppose to look like.
that's an interesting team you got there. I might copy it for my playthough
14:20 Etrian Odyssey reference!
So what's left ? The Reaper 4th revenge against omega and The Velvet trio ?
I actually like Fuuka's voice better. it's not bored sounding.
omegaevolution
Aaaand this is the reason why I'm subscribed to you.
Um... Zeus is greek and Yggdrasil is Norse... someone wanna fill me in on the connection here?
Zeus' Design as well the gameplay mechanics of this game and dungeoneering are a reference to the game series Persona Q crosses' with also by Atlus. Etrian Odyssey.
Yggdrasil is a Giant Tree linked to one of the main Dungeons as well as having a significance to the plot which changes with each game.
Well there's also the fact that they're part of the same family of myths that share a common origin (Indo European), and they're pretty similar too.
Lito290
I mean it makes as much sense as fusing atropos, lacheln and clotho and getting norn.
Yu's the only one in the party without a gun. :T
Does anyone know the name of the song that starts playing at 4:05? Or if the guitar part comes from another song. I've been looking for it for a while
Same friend, same. Never found it after all these years so I keep coming back to this old video to hear it.
zeus ez too stronk 5 elizabeth
That reward...
Did Zeus referred the OG SMT Timeline?
Is it just me or the music sounds like the battle theme of EO4 ?
Composed by Yuzo Koshiro, yes.
*0:09* what's that theme in the background? I would like to know the OST
+Roy Famacion Paulownia Mall - in the labyrinth -
yeah i feel THIS zeus in particular must be from the Etrian oddessy universe. Not the basic one we know in the Persona games
SO MUCH RED
That sounds like an Etrian Odyssey track, what's it's name?
The Person is Then Called Away From War
anybody know the BGM? it sounds so cool and yet i cant find it
Kurowaka-Senpai It's called Disturbances-The One They Called from Beyond
ok thanks
14:21
Uh-oh.
666 critical damage lolz 7:44
4:05 Does anyone know the song here? It screams "You are about to get slept."
Don't you hate it when a bonus boss from one game posses a bonus boss from another game? I do too...
persona users in eo5 confirmed
Atlus games might be a Marvel/DC multiverse.
Cool.
What's the name of the track/song that plays during this boss. I love it.
The track is called: Disturbances - The One Called from Beyond.
What's the name of the song playing during Fuuka and Rise's conversation, around 3:10? It's awesome!
It's still Footsteps of Time.
The dungeon music.
K•コッパ T•テング Thanks a lot! I didn't get the chance to play the game yet and didn't stop to hear the entire OST either. Dx
Ragna The Doomed Edge
XD
It's a really long one, but the entire thing is pretty epic.
Soo your telling me she can regen all her health when she is low
Petra Rožić she only does it once
Which music plays in this battle
How the hell do you get this to happen?
What's the difference between Golden and Heroic Gemini?
Heroic Gemini has a low chance of activating and can be learned by anyone with the right skill card/sub-persona. Golden Gemini has a medium chance and is exclusive to Junpei's ascended Persona (Trismegistus).
@@arcengal
Would it make sense having Junpei learn Heroic Gemini? Also is it possible that both trigger and you get 3 instead of 2 attacks?
4:32 no shit really
Would you say Zeus is worth it?