Fan Zhendong vs Panagiotis Gionis | MS R64 | 2023 ITTF World Table Tennis Championships Finals

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ความคิดเห็น • 102

  • @eric3650
    @eric3650 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    The strawberry replay has the camera angle that should be used the entire match. They just don't learn.

    • @MStoev88
      @MStoev88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The replay and the point were beatiful, but I'm not sure I'd like to have my view blocked by the players backs during the point with that camera angle. It was perfect in this short play though with no visibility blocking points.

    • @nomadhobo3988
      @nomadhobo3988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do it for the sponsors

    • @DIGITALDREAMSSUBLIMATIONTIPS
      @DIGITALDREAMSSUBLIMATIONTIPS ปีที่แล้ว +6

      World class cameras,world class stadium ,world class players ,but...
      Pathetic camera angle !
      Just ruins the entire match ,and so much lack of common sense on part of camera man ....its astonishing!!

  • @yollmerjose8892
    @yollmerjose8892 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Be a defense againts fan zhendong must be a nightmare XD

  • @shenzhenpingpong
    @shenzhenpingpong ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Just too solid, too good. Gionis did fine, just really didn't have a chance to take 4 games.

    • @mankenybom9344
      @mankenybom9344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right. If Gionis is going to have any chance at all to beat Fan... he must take more risks... be more offensive and risk loosing points... but he's loosing the game anyway, so why not....?

    • @shenzhenpingpong
      @shenzhenpingpong ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mankenybom9344 , yup, gotta take the fight right from the start to the attacker, surprise him, maybe make him a bit nervous,.

  • @KoalaBear7
    @KoalaBear7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You all are sleeping on the fact Gionis be making bank as a dentist instead of this no paying sport. Considering he's almost 45 and playing this well, he already won in my book.

    • @epic1053
      @epic1053 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Table tennis has no money in it compared to other sports for example there are probably only maybe 3 to 5 real pro table tennis players in the UK , some lower ranked players might occasionally get paid for a match but they won't make enough that they're actually getting a decent income from table tennis once their travel costs are taken away, they might even lose money. but at the highest level, around too 50 to 100 in the world minimum there is ALOT of money.
      Gionis was one top 20.
      I wouldn't be surprised if gionis made 300k plus in his peak which is surely much more than a dentist would make in a middle income country like Greece, I would be surprised if he makes more than 80k as a dentist

    • @jackbauer7244
      @jackbauer7244 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course, only Chinese contribute 100%, Westerners do this part time and I give them 200% respect.

    • @PanchoGDMKWii
      @PanchoGDMKWii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This sport never pays, the money comes from the sponsors, like DHS, Joola, Xiom, and others.

    • @rayc7914
      @rayc7914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PanchoGDMKWii That's true, but players receive sponsors because they are marketable. Why are they marketable? Because they are good enough to show up on big stages, which means they are taking the sport seriously. The point of OP is the impressiveness of time use to achieve relative success in 2 professions.

    • @aliasgarasgie
      @aliasgarasgie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Doesn't matter if you are a rocket scientist, a dentist, or a 100 year old farmer, you will be judged here only for your table tennis. Fan Zendong is a a hands down winner period. Now you can get your wisdom tooth pulled by Gionis and adore him all you want.

  • @wysenyuycollinsiceyufenyuy6558
    @wysenyuycollinsiceyufenyuy6558 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    He did well. Many above he's world Ranking level will never take a set from fan zen zong or have such exchanges

    • @inc9410
      @inc9410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Geonis был в топ 20 мирового рейтинга и показывал хороший результат лет 10 назад. Сейчас просто старый уже

    • @hurttoexist8952
      @hurttoexist8952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gianis till holding insane level but defense ain't quite an option against fan zhendong. It literally feels like hes cheating 😂😂

  • @uw10isplaya
    @uw10isplaya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Inspiring to watch a 43 year old play games like 3 and 5 of this match against the World #1 and reigning World Champ.

  • @TheBrechbuehler
    @TheBrechbuehler ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love the game of gionis :)

  • @danpro.u
    @danpro.u ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Žádný obránce nemá proti Fan šanci. Řek, ale zaslouží uznání, byl skutečně dobrý.

  • @niklaskras5498
    @niklaskras5498 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    when the side tables have a better camera angle than the main one

  • @peterschaub9175
    @peterschaub9175 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    dann kurz vor dem handshake rauszugehen, very friendly

  • @alexismamadou2193
    @alexismamadou2193 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow fun opposition of styles. FZD chopping from
    the stands at some point was priceless 😂

  • @robk7002
    @robk7002 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FZD fantastic technique is really evident when he plays defenders.

  • @Don_VitO
    @Don_VitO ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful match)

  • @Maximka3110
    @Maximka3110 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Эх..будь более удачная сетка и Гионис бы прошел дальше, а тут с Фан …он же машина просто 😂😂

    • @zhilkinn
      @zhilkinn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Как написал один комментатор ниже: Фан Джендонг - страшный сон для защитников 😂

    • @user-hq2ti8cc9e
      @user-hq2ti8cc9e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zhilkinn как будто у защитников есть иные варианты, кроме как перестать мешать нормальным игрокам разыграть титул на стадии ну максимум 1/8 Так называемым тренерам, которые прививают это убожество, рекомендую уйти из профессии, чтобы не портить будущие карьеры и вообще наш вид спорта

  • @janniskappler7617
    @janniskappler7617 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why change the angle again? the last videos were so much more enjoyable..

  • @manis_aekara5050
    @manis_aekara5050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    omg gionnis incredible game

  • @joakimberg692
    @joakimberg692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love watching Gionis.

  • @slash_odessa
    @slash_odessa ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Camera 😢

  • @aerotus888
    @aerotus888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sort the camera angle out!!

  • @lufkechile8116
    @lufkechile8116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Se necesita flexibilizar la modalidad de juego def. para que aumente el numero de jugadores de este tipo.

    • @blueheart9873
      @blueheart9873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. But the only way is nerfing the attackers equipment or the ball, table etc... Pimples and defensive rubbers have reached their max potential

  • @Kaspiy2
    @Kaspiy2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I look plays for my practice, how play Fan or Ma against for defenders .

  • @maxmusterman8279
    @maxmusterman8279 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool game is not the standard playstyle

  • @eagpacheco
    @eagpacheco ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Que Fan Zhendong te quiera cortar, significa que te esta humillando.
    A mi parecer creo que no debió abusar tanto de los cortes de revés-

  • @gerritdeheij
    @gerritdeheij ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not so bad played from Gionis

  • @robilkobohme2793
    @robilkobohme2793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FZD, Glückwunsch zum Auftaktatch Sieg gegen Panagiotis. Du bist viel beweglicher geworden. Wirkst frischer und athletischer. Taktisch besser eingestellt. Deine Top Spin ziehst du viel weicher als sonst und dein Spiel ziehst du anders auf. Du spielst überlegter, deiner Körpersprache ist eine andere. Ich bin ein großer Fan von dir und von deiner Spielweise.

    • @Oldmelancholic
      @Oldmelancholic ปีที่แล้ว

      Im Vorfeld hat er gegen Chopper genau diese Art von Spiel trainiert. Der Grieche spielt aber auch sehr gut. Ich will fast meinen das er auf einem Niveau mit Ruwen Filus ist.

    • @evechenisme
      @evechenisme ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my family also are big fans of FZD!

    • @Duende70
      @Duende70 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Oldmelancholic Ich möchte meinen er ist momentan besser drauf als Filus. Filus wirkt doch sehr abgekämpft.

  • @woo8172
    @woo8172 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @joakimtoftgaard7475
    @joakimtoftgaard7475 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    angle is unwatchable, next...

  • @jean-michellimmois9962
    @jean-michellimmois9962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    La.lecon du jour ou comment jouer un defenseur. Magnifique.

  • @wakattacka7166
    @wakattacka7166 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT RUBBERS AND BLADE FAN ZHENDONG USING ?

    • @MrBenjo2000
      @MrBenjo2000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Butterfly Viscaria = Fan Zhendong ALC, Forhand Hurricane 3 Bluesponge, Backhand used to be Tenerg05, I don't know, if he changed that. I wouldn't recommend to play pros equipment, because you need to be in a really good physique and have great technique to do well with such equipment. You won't play better just because you use some other equipment.

    • @wakattacka7166
      @wakattacka7166 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrBenjo2000THANK YOU MAN !

    • @user-if1yk5ui3b
      @user-if1yk5ui3b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wakattacka7166 backhand used to be d05 and now d09c

    • @wakattacka7166
      @wakattacka7166 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THANKS =]
      @@user-if1yk5ui3b

  • @paulispaul1974
    @paulispaul1974 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Panagiotis needs to exercise (a lot) his legs. He's too slow.

    • @kostasmad1431
      @kostasmad1431 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      he is nearly 45 man....Especially at his age he is grerat

    • @blueheart9873
      @blueheart9873 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Fan is too fast

    • @ingooldsen5972
      @ingooldsen5972 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! I think he spends all his time in the bar drinking beer.

    • @billereychristophe3430
      @billereychristophe3430 ปีที่แล้ว

      Il a 45 ans bande de glands... Je serais curieux de voir votre vitesse à une table à son âge....
      Toujours à critiquer alors que les gens sont pas capable de reproduire un 5eme de la personne qu'il critique ...

  • @djengizahmedov5309
    @djengizahmedov5309 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Gionis playing with a Rolex Platona on his other hand?

    • @jimis2223
      @jimis2223 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes

  • @user-pu5ym4fp9z
    @user-pu5ym4fp9z ปีที่แล้ว

    Без шансов!

  • @dastanzhanbirov
    @dastanzhanbirov ปีที่แล้ว

    protection does not work against this beast

  • @DIGITALDREAMSSUBLIMATIONTIPS
    @DIGITALDREAMSSUBLIMATIONTIPS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    World class cameras,world class stadium ,world class players ,but...
    Pathetic camera angle !
    Just ruins the entire match ,and so much lack of common sense on part of camera man ....its astonishing!!

  • @phildurre9492
    @phildurre9492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude thought he is good until that day he met Fan Zendong😂

    • @Ilovemarvelll
      @Ilovemarvelll 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man is a dentist as his main job and 45 yo and still took a game from Zendong chill

  • @mparento
    @mparento ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrible camera angle.

  • @user-wj5uo2dh3h
    @user-wj5uo2dh3h ปีที่แล้ว

    Рррррразорвал.

  • @eduarduhkuhuku9761
    @eduarduhkuhuku9761 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's a Chinese robot machine. If the defenders are to have any chance of beating the Chinese, the height of the net must be increased. Otherwise, table tennis will become a game of who beats who. Which is what we're seeing now.

    • @drumtum
      @drumtum ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So what are you saying? To me it is pretty obvious. Play better. The chinese players have been beaten before. Long time ago now. But you can´t change the rules because someone is winning alot.

    • @hawnt2r
      @hawnt2r ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not the height of the net. It is change of the ball. In yearly 2000-s he had 38mm celluloid ball. It was very spinny and had a different trajectory of flight. It made serves, push game and chops more powerfull and important aspects of the game. That is one of the reasons why in early 2000-s we had so much different styles.
      Current ball is less spinny. But it makes it entertaining to watch for most of the people. Because it makes game more open, more fast and long rallies. Previous ball created more mistakes in push game, more tactics, but it just doesn't look showily for most of the people

    • @KoalaBear7
      @KoalaBear7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll never understand the logic behind "because the Chinese is winning, 'XY and Z' must change". That's like saying because the US dominates basketball in the Olympics, dunking should be banned. Sounds like non-Chinese players just need to do better. No one likes landslides especially in sports, but let's not fault others for your own shortcomings.

    • @whatever-wn1nk
      @whatever-wn1nk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the Chinese always win (and deservedly so) because their league is by far the strongest and they always train/play against each other. if you want to be among the best players in the world you should move to China.

    • @mustafavatansever7564
      @mustafavatansever7564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hawnt2r I agree with you. During 2000-2014 was the best time of table tennis. 40 mm celluloid ball was much more spinny and rallies did not look mechanical. Only talented ones could play blocking game as Samsanov and Kenta.. After plastic ball, Players like Harimato, Truls etc. can easily do counter shot to Xu Xin's spins or Zhang Jike's backhand flicks. For example, despite of Timo's heavy spin, Harimato can easily do counter block or shot. However, Harimato gets in trouble with Aruna's faster and less spinny balls.
      The spirit of table tennis is spin based game, not counter shot one.

  • @guivolp
    @guivolp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone is getting their set against the chinese players

  • @qaqtus68
    @qaqtus68 ปีที่แล้ว

    играется,как кот с мышкой.

  • @naerokano
    @naerokano ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bastó con ver solo el primer set para ver como ganaría Fan, totalmente derrotado en actitud desde el inicio el chopper, cero hambre de ganar, ver su lento desplazamiento para ser un chopper me decia que seria una perdida de tiempo ver el partido completo, mejor no se hubiera presentado

  • @blokin5039
    @blokin5039 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why this crappy view??

  • @thad1296
    @thad1296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just saw the matchup and knew: some greek guy is gonna get slaughtered today 😂 thats why offensive play will always prevail.

  • @user-xx7pc9vg1l
    @user-xx7pc9vg1l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Хорошая тренька для обоих

  • @r.lihuak
    @r.lihuak ปีที่แล้ว

    Horrible angles to watch from

  • @The_Great_One
    @The_Great_One ปีที่แล้ว +1

    45 years old? Is table tennis struggling that much for talent lol...

    • @JohnnyNumber11
      @JohnnyNumber11 ปีที่แล้ว

      ure acting like the guy on ur picture wasn't 41, when he ended his career and not because of his age, but because of all the injurys which stopped him.

    • @The_Great_One
      @The_Great_One ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnnyNumber11 Fed was pretty much semi retired for a while there, though I dont know about this guy here

    • @JohnnyNumber11
      @JohnnyNumber11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@The_Great_One might be, but still, this is the first round of worlds, so it's not too unusual to see older players there.
      It's not about lack of talents, that's the great thing about TT, no matter if young or old, disbaled or not, man or woman, fat or thin, at the end, it's all about are you good enough.
      It's a wonderful sport to age in, because it's not as physically as other sports like Tennis or Football, you can make up for your aging body with ur wits and experience (only to a certain amount of cause, but it can help you win games, you shouldn't have).

  • @WellMefisto
    @WellMefisto ปีที่แล้ว

    Choppers... 😴😴😴😴😴😴