I mean I don't personally disagree but there are people who specialize in luger history would most likely have more experience just because they're focused on 1 specific firearm
Back in 1989, I heard a fellow student ask the professor about some kind of conjecture. The professor blinked, hesitated, and responded "you know, I've never thought of it that way". The student quickly "never mind"ed out of it, because that professor was "the guy" in that subject, he had been there, done that, and you better believe he wrote the book about it. But he tried to put a student down gently, and/or was prepared to deal with the day when a student surpassed him. Self confidence is a good thing, but betting on no one ever catching you being wrong is going to hurt one day.
@@austin_bennett Also, while I also know its a joke, I remember that Ian has explicitly stated that he's not interested in engraved firearms. If he's missed anything, it would be platinum-plated lugers.
@@rd6781 "What's up guys, It's the Gun-Deuche here. Today we are going to strap one of Hermann Görings Lugers behind my Jeep and see if the safety will fail while being dragged. BUT before we do that, I have to shill out some generic man baby loot box. This loot box costs $50 a month and comes with stuff like this dull chinese flipper, a can of BRCC coffee and this moron labia patch. "
Given the exclusivity probably more likely they got it off some either suicided Nazi leader or one that surrendered. Nazi leaders arent exactly known for their bravery.
@ArchonCommando they were actually known exactly for that. Many died at the noose saluting their cause. Many continued to fight until death. It be a shame to say our grandparents died to cowards.
Im shocked Göring had these commissioned; I mean horrifically expensive, ostentatious items seems so uncharacteristic of such a restrained, modest man...
I mean if your rich as fuck and want , what at the time was a state of the art firearm in terms of operation, Fuck it why not, thats why so many of those Saudi and African Warlords have plated AK-47s and Desert Eagles or 1911's
I would hate to see the price tag on something like that. Its the ultimate triangulation of: 'engraved gun overpricing', 'nazi association overpricing' and 'luger overpricing'
Göring, during his arrest and handing over his side arm. US Officer: "S&W revolver, interesting choice for a German Reichsmarshall". Göring: (Defensively) "Yeah, well I usually holster my platinum Luger"
That particular revolver is on display in the West Point Museum. I was surprised to discover that he was carrying that gun when he was captured. I would have expected something like the above Luger.
@@louvin44 I believe it's theorized he carried that either (or both) to win favor with his captors by carrying an American gun, and/or to keep his "good" guns safe from capture.
@@BaxterRoss He surrendered to the deputy commander of the 36th division, Brigadier General Robert Stack. In front of his staff officers as well as an MP detachment and photographers. Doing something like that wouldn't have gone over well with Stack's boss or Eisenhower.
i'm not from usa or uk, but i'm quite ok in english. i was telling myself i'm actually a 'english-portuguese translator', but... i've never heard of the word "cronyism" until right now. and that, my friends, is going to help me A LOT in explaining brazilian politics. thank you, Ian. thank you. this is a true serious history channel.
I’m a little fuzzy on the subject, but I thought Patton’s disdain was for pearl grips, as he himself had ivory grips on his revolver. But I’m just going off of what I recall from the movie.
@keith moore MacArthur was a bit mental, Bomber Harris was vengeful (arguably rightfully so "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." and Mongtomery was sometimes over confident in his abilities, but Patton was by all accounts actually a genuine arsehole.
@@BFBCFTW Over confident? Montgomery used the colonial troops in his command as cannon fodder. It was his lone tactic. Send wave after wave of colonials at the enemy, until the enemy collapsed, then mop up with proper English soldiers. Very nearly court marshalled for this practice multiple times, but he had connections. At Normandy and in Market Garden he was denied massed colonial troops, and so was completely ineffective, having to be rescued in both instances.
As a German "Krieghoff" sounds like some name an American or British entertainment company made up recently to find a name for a villain or sth. to sound more martial :) Sometimes reality beats fiction.
@@herpderp3131 It was a presentation piece, to be given as a gift, not for Göring's personal use. During WW2 his favoured sidearm was a S&W Military & Police revolver, in .38 Special. Well finished but plain.
"We don't know if these pistols originally came in cases at all." Now I'm imagining Fatso Göring strolling into his local gun shop near the Schorfheide browsing the glass cases of guns and spotting one of these.
In Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Claire and Steve find a pair of gold-plated Lugers that are decorated exactly like Herman Goring's Luger, which Steve takes and uses for a short time. It's actually the first time that a Nazi official's gun has appeared in a video game.
Just because they're gold plated lugers doesn't make them the guns of nazi officials. Damascening Lugers was popular long before the Nazis came to power. To say "the first time that a Nazi official's gun has appeared in a video game", is a baseless claim, They're just damascened Lugers...
@@tisFrancesfault When I said "Nazi official's gun", I meant that particular Luger, not all Luger pistols as a whole. My claim isn't baseless and it is easily proved by the following fact: Tokyo Marui made limited airsoft models of Code Veronica's Gold Luger, and there are pictures of that online. When that Luger is compared to Hermann Goring's Krieghoff Heinrich Luger, the engravings of both guns are 99% identical. The setting of Rockfort Island in the game was intended to have a few references to Nazi Germany, and that includes the Gold Lugers as well as a Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger with its MG34 coaxial gun still in place.
@@ReonMagnum Urgh, I did something I tend to do, and sound way more confrontational that I intended. Baseless was wrong. The game ones look quite different in styling, the TM Repos are possibly/probably based on on this pistol, as a fairly famous example (grip pattern is fairly different), but they are different.. I guess my point was to contest that this pistol was depicted, Instead, a similar style one was used.
There is one possible link between the engraving theme and an intended purpose. The highest combat military honor in the German military was the Ritterkreuz, or Knights Cross. There were additions that could be added to the medal for subsequent awards, the basic one being the Eichenlaub, or Oakleaf Cluster. The use of the oakleaf as the main element in this Lugers embellishment might indicate an intention to award one these guns as a special recognition for valor to a carrier of the KnightsCross withOakleaves.
Oakleaves are just a thing on traditional German male clothing. Take a look at the traditional Bavarian "Lederhosen" or at traditional German hunting gear; there are oakleaves everywhere. Göring was very keen on hunting and was - amongst other titles - officially "Reichs hunting minister" (really !). Most of the "hunting laws" he invented are still active today in Germany. And as people mentioned, the man had a soft spot for "extravagant" dressing. If Göring had been Italian, you can imagine him being a Mafia boss.
The date perhaps says it all.15 August 1939 was the date of a major air disaster at Neuhammer in Germany. There was a demonstration of Stuka dive bombers that ended with a large number of aircraft crashed and 26 pilots killed. It happened in front of a large number of senior generals: Hugo Sperrle, Bruno Loerzer, Wolfram von Richthofen and more. It was held at the new headquarters of Von Rundstedt's Army Group South. I would strongly suspect that the weapons were intended to be presented to a number of senior general attending the event. But given what happened, they were either not presented or presented in a very quiet way and forgotten.
August 15th 1939, The Wizard of Oz its official premiere at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood. If that's not worth a platinum plated Luger nothing is!
@@johnanon6938 these guns have probably something to with that Neuhammer Stuka disaster. It was a display with a lot of Luftwaffe Generals also close to Göring. So maybe Göring had them made for handing them out on this occasion.
Because of his extraordinary clothing-style, Hermann Göring had the german nickname "Lametta-Heini" (english: tinsel-jerk or lametta-idiot). He ran arround like an decorated chrismasstree and some germans told jokes about him. Greetings from Germany, Berchtesgaden
Weird thing is Saddam and Hitler both had tons of gaudy guns made that were just meant as gifts for lackeys and actually preferred to own stuff that more fit the overweight tactocool guy aesthetic. I think Saddam got captured having a ghetto AK fitted with a car priced ACOG knock off. Man ended up not only looking like a methed up Bubba he became one.
It's sad that Luger's designs are no longer a thing. I've only shot a few magazines through a Luger P.08, but every shot was a pleasure. It was the most accurate pistol, smoothest pistol I've ever shot. The sights were very easy to use, I was able to have a 4" grouping at 50 yards, and by no means do I consider myself to be a good shot. I credit that to this wonderful pistol.
I've shot one too, and I wouldn't put any of those superlatives on it. It's very good for its day, which means its unremarkable by modern standards. Like Jay Leno talking about a Duesenberg for being amazing in that it can handle California freeway traffic about as well as a 1998 Camry.
@@GunFunZS well you're right about that, but as the first pinned barrel pistol, without a shitty trigger, and good sights, was wonderful to shoot. I'm not a fan of Browning tilting Lock and slide handguns or pistols
@@Tyler-uc4ye from videos I've seen it's all updated with the best steel, hand crafted, this guy knows what he's doing. the war brought in so much junk metal across the board: everyone was in a hurry. lots of contaminated metals.
I wonder if the serial numbers were in fact party numbers of the person's they were presented to since they range so wildly and are above the actual production numbers. I know it's not very likely but it was the first thing I thought of
High 16,000s to low 17,000s isn't a particularly large range, and is suggestive of a continuation of the existing range if that got to the 13,000s. Perhaps they anticipated another batch of 3000-odd and started the presentation numbering after that.
Ah I'm glad I found this video. Years ago I saw a very low quality picture of one of these, and it was captioned as "Göring's personal Lugar". Nothing more. I tried to find more info but I was unsuccessful, so it was always a mystery to me if these guns actually existed. Thanks for the video!
Like a late medieval gold inlaid engraved wheellock. Intended for the highest ranks of the society, hundreds of man-hours spent on a single piece to make it gorgeous and never used in anger in their intended role. Its ironic that much work goes to such instruments of death and they never find a chance to get fired in the middle of a world war.
I'm glad we have left this idea of beautifying weapons in the past. Imagine it in a current age, US Presidents getting nukes gold and platinum plated, with philosophical mantras of freedom engraved onto the side and gemstones covering the rivets. It would be weird.
I visited a very rich gun collector who lives in a castle in Belgium. He gave me the hunting rifle of King Ludwig II of Bavaria (he built the famous fairy tale castle "Neuschwanstein"). The Barrel is made of Damascus steel. It's a beautiful gun, incredibly valuable.
So glad to see Ian going strong as ever. Killing it with the content! Found myself intrigued by the subject matter and lore. TLDR: Very professionally articulated, MyMan.
Damn, a video about my favourite pistol on my birthday. Thanks Ian, you're my source of gun knowledge of all the interesting guns and how they work. Have a nice day!
Herman was an art lover, he loved nice things and he had the chance to get something made that he wanted and he took it. What a lovely Luger ! best one I ever saw !
The date perhaps says it all.15 August 1939 was the date of a major air disaster at Neuhammer in Germany. There was a demonstration of Stuka dive bombers that ended with a large number of aircraft crashed and 26 pilots killed. It happened in front of a large number of senior generals: Hugo Sperrle, Bruno Loerzer, Wolfram von Richthofen and more. It was held at the new headquarters of Von Rundstedt's Army Group South. I would strongly suspect that the weapons were intended to be presented to a number of senior general attending the event. But given what happened, they were either not presented or presented in a very quiet way and forgotten.
« Good news, there's a book out there. Bad news, it's really expensive and you can't get one » Sums up pretty well what happens with computer stuff nowadays... 😂
That date was (coincidentally?) the date Goring's pet project, the Stuka dive bomber, was shown to the top luftwaffe officers at the "Neuhammer Catastrophe" www.airforcemag.com/article/0587stuka/
Thanks Ian. These pistols are possibly meant for the families of the thirteen pilots who died during a demonstration of Junkers, Stuka dive bombers, that occurred on 15th August 1939 for the high command in Silesia (in what is today Poland,) Germany. Hope that helps!
Luger is my favourite pistol even as a kid I loved them. I had a cap gun Luger when I was about 8. Later on I got a 1939 Luger in mint condition 20 years later. This one is the holy grail for me.
I saw one of those Lugers in the early 1980s, at Deniliquin NSW Australia, in a collection of 9 Lugers owned by a farmer (wealthy farmer). I hate to think what happened to it and them when he died, probably surrendered in a gun amnesty and melted down.
@toeff7852 Yet I write better than you, how weird huh? I love how Leftists pat themselves on the back when all they have done is regurgitate some lies they have been indoctrinated with.. Was my comment about the movement in any way incorrect or are you just off your medication?
I don’t think it was unheard of for arms makers to gift “presentation weapon” of extremely high quality to generals and politicians in WW11 Germany (and probably the practice continues worldwide today.)
There's no good or bad in war, only sides Choose your brainwashing propaganda, put on the uniform and go for a nice walk in no man's land while your commander enjoys a whisky from the safety of his bunker
I'm not surprised that Admiral (not General) Doenitz never received such a gift from Goering. The Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine weren't the best of buddies.
"It's a nice gun, I'll give you that. But the engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever" - Naked Snake (Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater) "Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever..." - Revolver Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain)
Doesn´t matter who they were made for. It´s all about the skill of the gunsmith/artist and what they created. So while i´m not a fan of the Luger design (it has some glaring weaknesses), this pistol is a piece of art and skill.
Göring liked to boast, and on 9 August 1939, Göring said, "The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Meier!"
If this is one of Göring`s Lugers then i have to admit that Göring did have some Taste i mean it`s Tacky af but it would be worse if the Gun would be gold plated
@@kanedakrsa No, I only gave my opinion on the optical part or in short: platinum plated is tacky af but ok gold plated is just tacky af and ugly to look at (at least that's what I think)
@@AAArnold Remember the house tour scene in "Wall Street" where M. Douglas points out to C. Sheen the gold plated luger encased on the wall?? "Gold Luger, never fired"???????
on the 15.8.1939 there was a airshow from the luftwaffe. on that day 26 people lost there life on that air show so maybe, it was made for the airshow as a gift for some pilots.
i swear when you said "it makes sense that Goring would've ordered these' wouldve been followed up with something like "because dude was a real piece of work"
I can’t believe you were able to obtain this piece and show us. I don’t know why I’m so shocked because you have a stout reputation when it comes to acquiring rare and absolutely gorgeous pieces. But wow! This piece is absolutely stunning, I would give a arm and leg just for a replica piece made by a company with even silver plated and some material to look ivory and isn’t . Just because the beauty of it. Just to have in a case and behind glass somewhere in my house to show to only real fans of history to admire. Man, idk why but I fell in love with the artillery Luger and have always dreamed of this one along with the gold plated one as like my “Dream Gun” to have. Absolutely stunning and remarkable pistols. Amazing! Thanks for sharing really!
But it does tend to be a particular feature of Fascism - and thank god for that, it made a complete and utter mess of German and Italian military procurement.
@@BlueGamingRage I've seen a lot of corruption in academia LOL. Politics in general are a festering wound, especially when the same old parties remain in power for decades (looking at you Democrats and Republicans).
@@edi9892 All high level politics are a den of corruption, backstabbing, clientelism and favor trading. No question about that. But in the case of the Nazi hierarchy, it was actually instituted like that, beginning from how Hitler liked to play each of his close associates against each other in a perpetual ongoing fight to win power, attributions and his favor. So let's say that while in politics that's pretty much normal, the Nazis took it to the top level.
“That’s unusual, at least in my experience”
As if anyone else has more experience.
I mean I don't personally disagree but there are people who specialize in luger history would most likely have more experience just because they're focused on 1 specific firearm
@@austin_bennett it’s a joke
Back in 1989, I heard a fellow student ask the professor about some kind of conjecture. The professor blinked, hesitated, and responded "you know, I've never thought of it that way". The student quickly "never mind"ed out of it, because that professor was "the guy" in that subject, he had been there, done that, and you better believe he wrote the book about it. But he tried to put a student down gently, and/or was prepared to deal with the day when a student surpassed him. Self confidence is a good thing, but betting on no one ever catching you being wrong is going to hurt one day.
@@austin_bennett Also, while I also know its a joke, I remember that Ian has explicitly stated that he's not interested in engraved firearms. If he's missed anything, it would be platinum-plated lugers.
@@t4nkychannel921 Yeah, he's more into shooters than lookers. :)
When can we see a mud test?
Don't even joke, there will be obnoxious youtubers out there that would do it
LMAO yes!
@@rd6781 "What's up guys, It's the Gun-Deuche here. Today we are going to strap one of Hermann Görings Lugers behind my Jeep and see if the safety will fail while being dragged. BUT before we do that, I have to shill out some generic man baby loot box. This loot box costs $50 a month and comes with stuff like this dull chinese flipper, a can of BRCC coffee and this moron labia patch. "
@@Totemparadox hahahaha
I shuddered reading that.
The soldier who killed the original owner straight up got his legendary loot
Yeah and everyone else in his platoon complained for weeks about the horrible drop rate.
@@nervsouly I'd be jealous too if my homies got the exotic luger and I get nothing but a junk ass Radium Rifle or last ditch bolt gun. SMH
Given the exclusivity probably more likely they got it off some either suicided Nazi leader or one that surrendered. Nazi leaders arent exactly known for their bravery.
Loot box earned. Unlock?
@ArchonCommando they were actually known exactly for that. Many died at the noose saluting their cause. Many continued to fight until death.
It be a shame to say our grandparents died to cowards.
Göring really did put the "Supreme" in "Supreme Commander of the Luftwaffe" with this piece.
Im shocked Göring had these commissioned; I mean horrifically expensive, ostentatious items seems so uncharacteristic of such a restrained, modest man...
I guess you never truly know a man.
😂😂ffs
Ha! I see what ya did there. Good job. Almost had me. 🤣
@asdrubale bisanzio yes, he really tried to protect all those sto, I mean art works he took into his personal protection, what a guy!
Few know this but Goering actually wore a corset to hide his dump truck ass's true power level.
They weren't lying. Goring really was a gamer
Based
I mean if your rich as fuck and want , what at the time was a state of the art firearm in terms of operation, Fuck it why not, thats why so many of those Saudi and African Warlords have plated AK-47s and Desert Eagles or 1911's
@Scott Levy As long as their not sold to Blood Diamond Warlords or Middle eastern Oil Princes , Im right there with you.
I wanna be a gamer too. Perhaps I should take my my Deagle or whatever and slap a Razor sticker on it, and sprinkle on some Gfuel dust too
@@ap_2048 Just make sure its also sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends and your set.
I would hate to see the price tag on something like that.
Its the ultimate triangulation of: 'engraved gun overpricing', 'nazi association overpricing' and 'luger overpricing'
Lol. Bring it to Rock Island and put a rediculous reserve price on it. See what happens
@@willcaputo1 I bet that if you put a $1mil reserve on it, it'd sell.
@@ScottKenny1978 iirc, a .45 Luger already sold for a million. Better make it 2-3 Mil.
@@willcaputo1 those were honestly *very* rare, though. Assuming that we're talking about one of the US Army trials guns.
@@willcaputo1 was that the rare Luger with the attached flashlight, for officers in Hitler's bunker?
I'm surprised Herman Göring didn't just eat the pistol
looks yummy lol
Maybe if the grip was made out of white chocolate instead of ivory.
The ivory came from elephants he ate
@@ajeje1996 He is so fat not even an elephant can carry him
He did look like he ate pretty much everything else...
WWII Germany: constantly plagued by material shortages
Also WWII Germany: PLATINUM LUGER PISTOLS
Ian said it is dated August 1939, which is a couple of weeks prior to outset of WW2 on 1 September 1929, and was likely made up to a year beforehand.
Well platinum wouldn’t really be important to the war effort
@Evan Langston ye
@Evan Langston Yeah, like selling 3g of platinum would incredibly help the whole country. Then they also will feed people with money.
@Evan Langston That does not make any sense. AT ALL.
Watch out that’s means he’s got gold on all the other pistols
Underrated comment
@@kwilo wdym it’s the top comment
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Platinum is more expensive, or at least rarer. Gold's shockingly common for the prices it fetches.
@@lovecraftcat it’s a call of duty reference
When you want to own a Gucci glock but they don’t exist yet
Gucci and glocks are only "Premium" to peasants lmao
Gluger (Gucci Luger)
Was Göring expecting to be the final boss or something? Exquisite tastes
He tried to get Hitler to designate him as the next Fuhrer in 1945, but Bormann put a stop to that
he was the richest man in Europe at one small point in time
He was just trying to get his, "12 good years."
He was born into a family of extreme wealth........the nazi regime further supplemented it with all the looting of antiguities
The guy had pet lions before it was even cool !!!!.....not tigers but LIONS!!
Göring, during his arrest and handing over his side arm.
US Officer: "S&W revolver, interesting choice for a German Reichsmarshall".
Göring:
(Defensively) "Yeah, well I usually holster my platinum Luger"
That particular revolver is on display in the West Point Museum. I was surprised to discover that he was carrying that gun when he was captured. I would have expected something like the above Luger.
@@louvin44 I believe it's theorized he carried that either (or both) to win favor with his captors by carrying an American gun, and/or to keep his "good" guns safe from capture.
OR the American soldier pocketed his platinum Luger and turned in his own revolver......... 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@BaxterRoss that... sounds very probable
@@BaxterRoss He surrendered to the deputy commander of the 36th division, Brigadier General Robert Stack. In front of his staff officers as well as an MP detachment and photographers. Doing something like that wouldn't have gone over well with Stack's boss or Eisenhower.
"Good news, there is a book. Bad news, you can't get it.", best quote of the day.
That should be on the cover of Ian's book.
@@shesawitch3581 I wonder, if it's a good title for my dissertation about the commerce of books in the 15th c 🤣
It shows up on GunBroker occasionally.
I've heard this quote too many times in the last year, but instead of books, for GPUs.
Lukas.....something you'd expect to hear from Dr. Seuss's estate.
i'm not from usa or uk, but i'm quite ok in english. i was telling myself i'm actually a 'english-portuguese translator', but... i've never heard of the word "cronyism" until right now. and that, my friends, is going to help me A LOT in explaining brazilian politics. thank you, Ian. thank you. this is a true serious history channel.
Cronyism between the political leaders and the corporations is absolutely central to fascism.
crony is a friend, with a hint of illegallity, so, a bad man taking care of his bad friends... make sense?
"that, my friends, is going to help me A LOT in explaining brazilian politics" lol
@@zackp8201 works well to explain the political elite here in the US of A and corporate amerika as well.
@@Mikebumpful it's not exclusive to fascism, it's pretty common throughout history. :)
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew this was Göring to be a good video.
"If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Göring. You may call me Meyer." -Hermann Meyer
@Scott Levy Also not to confused with his cousin, Lyer Lyer Panzer Fyre
Omg I love you guys! Lmfao.
Göring: No, you can't ruin my radio speech like that!
RAF: Ha ha, Mosquito goes wroooooom!
IIRC he said that regarding Allied bombers over Germany - but you did not mention the "eating a broom"-part.
The famous quote / HoI4 loading screen
Goring would be the kind of guy to own what Patton would say were only fit for a New Orleans pimp in terms of gaudy.
I’m a little fuzzy on the subject, but I thought Patton’s disdain was for pearl grips, as he himself had ivory grips on his revolver. But I’m just going off of what I recall from the movie.
@@briansmith3011 it makes sense when his opinion on pearl grips are that. Goering is REALLY a blinged out dude...
@keith moore MacArthur was a bit mental, Bomber Harris was vengeful (arguably rightfully so "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." and Mongtomery was sometimes over confident in his abilities, but Patton was by all accounts actually a genuine arsehole.
@@BFBCFTW At least Patton realized he was fighting on the wrong side, though somewhat too late.
@@BFBCFTW Over confident? Montgomery used the colonial troops in his command as cannon fodder. It was his lone tactic. Send wave after wave of colonials at the enemy, until the enemy collapsed, then mop up with proper English soldiers. Very nearly court marshalled for this practice multiple times, but he had connections. At Normandy and in Market Garden he was denied massed colonial troops, and so was completely ineffective, having to be rescued in both instances.
Well thank God the loading tool is platinum plated. Imagine if it was gold plated and people noticed, you'd never be able to live that down.
Goring must be grinding kills with the luger to get that platinum skin.
Mom: What are you laughing at?
Me: Nothing
Also me: Adolf Dripler
ah i see you are a person of culture aswell
I think Joseph stuntin will win the axis
@@KillaIn556 nah, nah it's gonna be benito swaggolini
_spagholini_ morelike
Driplos Horthy my man
Imagine being an American soldier and finding one of these on a German dude lol
US soldiers: *gollum's voice* "THE PRECIOUS!"
Daaaamn that German got all his pistols gold
"Hey look, this Kraut has the 1000 kills skin!"
Imagine then any of your officers seeing it.
Pvt Smith did not bring this home.
More like Colonel Jones.
@@iatsd Looting a corpse is a war crime!?
"Platinum plated loading tool... which is nice."
Ian makes it sound so basic :P
"Its a nice gun, I'll give you that. But the engraving gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever."
I like platinum. I like Lugers. I like Forgotten weapons. This is going to be a good episode
I'd prefer a TiN-coating (would appear golden, but be very scratch resistant).
What about Göring?
@@zombrexgaming687 you’re treading a fine line my friend
I like Göring too
I like
Göring
So when will we see this one along Bin Ladens AK in a 2gun match?
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine oh wait yes. It was Saddam who had the blinged to the brim AK
@@LaNombre He did but the really famous ones supposedly belonged to his son Uday.
@@emilynelson5985 Uday, the man that made Saddam look like a saint by comparison.
As a German "Krieghoff" sounds like some name an American or British entertainment company made up recently to find a name for a villain or sth. to sound more martial :) Sometimes reality beats fiction.
Like the british actor who played Frankenstein's monster in the 1931 universal movie ? He named himself Karloff.
Göring was more intelligent than you, don't ask me doe why he went for such a gaudy gun.
As in American "Krieghoff" sounds like a fast food chain that specializes in crinkle cut fries.
@@herpderp3131 It was a presentation piece, to be given as a gift, not for Göring's personal use.
During WW2 his favoured sidearm was a S&W Military & Police revolver, in .38 Special.
Well finished but plain.
"We don't know if these pistols originally came in cases at all."
Now I'm imagining Fatso Göring strolling into his local gun shop near the Schorfheide browsing the glass cases of guns and spotting one of these.
Göring was more intelligent than you, don't ask me doe why he went for such a gaudy gun.
@Erina Nagasawa I can see him salivating over presentation pistols on a tray like they were donuts.
They definitely fall in line with Goering's flamboyant style.
Flamboyant is quite the polite term.
Dr Mark Felton made several good videos about the extravagance of Goering.
*vulgar excess.
Goering makes Liberace look straight.
So how shiny do you want your Luger to be?
Göring: YES
*"JA!"
F. T. F. Y.
“Listen kid, this games been rigged from the start.”
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
"It costs 400.000$ to fire this weapon for 12 seconds..."
Not bad, a Zumwalt rail gun round costs a cool $1m a go
I’m surprised these survived to this day
Why?
@@durayenterprisesllc4440 because the Ashford family bought em up and placed them on zombie infested islands
It's the mass produced stuff that gets used that doesn't survive because its common and worn so no-one thinks "Hey, this is special".
@@Kevin-mx1vi yeah true but I’m not surprised that they weren’t stolen it’s a wonder why Goring didn’t hide them
@@OMNIBAD nice resident evil reference 😂
In Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Claire and Steve find a pair of gold-plated Lugers that are decorated exactly like Herman Goring's Luger, which Steve takes and uses for a short time. It's actually the first time that a Nazi official's gun has appeared in a video game.
Just because they're gold plated lugers doesn't make them the guns of nazi officials. Damascening Lugers was popular long before the Nazis came to power.
To say "the first time that a Nazi official's gun has appeared in a video game", is a baseless claim, They're just damascened Lugers...
@@tisFrancesfault When I said "Nazi official's gun", I meant that particular Luger, not all Luger pistols as a whole.
My claim isn't baseless and it is easily proved by the following fact:
Tokyo Marui made limited airsoft models of Code Veronica's Gold Luger, and there are pictures of that online. When that Luger is compared to Hermann Goring's
Krieghoff Heinrich Luger, the engravings of both guns are 99% identical.
The setting of Rockfort Island in the game was intended to have a few references to Nazi Germany, and that includes the Gold Lugers as well as a Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger with its MG34 coaxial gun still in place.
@@tisFrancesfault actually, the Gold Lugers were a gift to the Ashfords from Göring during the negotiations with Great Britain.
@@ReonMagnum Call an ambulance, there's been a homicide!
@@ReonMagnum Urgh, I did something I tend to do, and sound way more confrontational that I intended.
Baseless was wrong. The game ones look quite different in styling, the TM Repos are possibly/probably based on on this pistol, as a fairly famous example (grip pattern is fairly different), but they are different.. I guess my point was to contest that this pistol was depicted, Instead, a similar style one was used.
There is one possible link between the engraving theme and an intended purpose. The highest combat military honor in the German military was the Ritterkreuz, or Knights Cross. There were additions that could be added to the medal for subsequent awards, the basic one being the Eichenlaub, or Oakleaf Cluster. The use of the oakleaf as the main element in this Lugers embellishment might indicate an intention to award one these guns as a special recognition for valor to a carrier of the KnightsCross withOakleaves.
Yes but the date on these pistols was 1939-08-15. The Knight's Cross With Oak Leaves was only awarded beginning on 1940-06-03
Stvdagger: lacking further documentation, or a ouji-board link to Heinrich or Hermann, we can only guess
Oakleaves are just a thing on traditional German male clothing. Take a look at the traditional Bavarian "Lederhosen" or at traditional German hunting gear; there are oakleaves everywhere. Göring was very keen on hunting and was - amongst other titles - officially "Reichs hunting minister" (really !). Most of the "hunting laws" he invented are still active today in Germany. And as people mentioned, the man had a soft spot for "extravagant" dressing. If Göring had been Italian, you can imagine him being a Mafia boss.
The date perhaps says it all.15 August 1939 was the date of a major air disaster at Neuhammer in Germany. There was a demonstration of Stuka dive bombers that ended with a large number of aircraft crashed and 26 pilots killed. It happened in front of a large number of senior generals: Hugo Sperrle, Bruno Loerzer, Wolfram von Richthofen and more. It was held at the new headquarters of Von Rundstedt's Army Group South.
I would strongly suspect that the weapons were intended to be presented to a number of senior general attending the event. But given what happened, they were either not presented or presented in a very quiet way and forgotten.
That pistol is more art than weaponry. Highly Valuable as both a historical artifact and as a stunning, exclusive piece of art. Really cool video Ian.
August 15th 1939, The Wizard of Oz its official premiere at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood.
If that's not worth a platinum plated Luger nothing is!
that’s awesome
Goering wanted to be a "Friend of Dorthy" as well?
Two weeks later....well that party got out of hand
@@johnanon6938 these guns have probably something to with that Neuhammer Stuka disaster. It was a display with a lot of Luftwaffe Generals also close to Göring. So maybe Göring had them made for handing them out on this occasion.
@@Khanclansith Well, he certainly liked to dress up...
Ogling at the beauty, then the heartbreak when noticing the dreaded crack in the grip around the safety.....
Yes I spotted that as well!
Because of his extraordinary clothing-style, Hermann Göring had the german nickname "Lametta-Heini" (english: tinsel-jerk or lametta-idiot). He ran arround like an decorated chrismasstree and some germans told jokes about him. Greetings from Germany, Berchtesgaden
Beautifully done. What a work of art!
“Engravings gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever”
"If you can read this, I got you in my other sights already...hands UP :p"
"you're pretty good"
Truly a safe queen.
I'd shoot it.
With +p+?
@@guaporeturns9472 -p
It's like a scary but awesome piece of art, with a significant historical background. Can't imagine the costs of this thing.
That makes Saddam's golden AKs look like a joke (they were anyways, but you know what I mean).
Weird thing is Saddam and Hitler both had tons of gaudy guns made that were just meant as gifts for lackeys and actually preferred to own stuff that more fit the overweight tactocool guy aesthetic. I think Saddam got captured having a ghetto AK fitted with a car priced ACOG knock off. Man ended up not only looking like a methed up Bubba he became one.
Ok boomer
@@BigWillyG1000 s
Say what you will about Saddam, but - unlike Hitler - he didn't take a coward's way out and went out like a man.
Kim Jong Un's golden Pistol would be cool aswell. Every dictator has one of those
@@pfw4568 Biden doesn't have one, I don't think.
It's sad that Luger's designs are no longer a thing. I've only shot a few magazines through a Luger P.08, but every shot was a pleasure. It was the most accurate pistol, smoothest pistol I've ever shot. The sights were very easy to use, I was able to have a 4" grouping at 50 yards, and by no means do I consider myself to be a good shot. I credit that to this wonderful pistol.
I've shot one too, and I wouldn't put any of those superlatives on it. It's very good for its day, which means its unremarkable by modern standards. Like Jay Leno talking about a Duesenberg for being amazing in that it can handle California freeway traffic about as well as a 1998 Camry.
@@GunFunZS well you're right about that, but as the first pinned barrel pistol, without a shitty trigger, and good sights, was wonderful to shoot. I'm not a fan of Browning tilting Lock and slide handguns or pistols
@@Tyler-uc4ye actually there's a German? guy today you can order a HAND BUILT Luger from. I think it's about 12 thousand dollars. and a wait list.
@@thedwightguy oh is there? I doubt he does financing and I don't have a credit card THAT deep. Otherwise I'd be for it.
@@Tyler-uc4ye from videos I've seen it's all updated with the best steel, hand crafted, this guy knows what he's doing. the war brought in so much junk metal across the board: everyone was in a hurry. lots of contaminated metals.
I wonder if the serial numbers were in fact party numbers of the person's they were presented to since they range so wildly and are above the actual production numbers. I know it's not very likely but it was the first thing I thought of
High 16,000s to low 17,000s isn't a particularly large range, and is suggestive of a continuation of the existing range if that got to the 13,000s. Perhaps they anticipated another batch of 3000-odd and started the presentation numbering after that.
Goring was an early party member from 1922 and would have had a low number.
@@slash6184 this gun was just ordered by göring maybe a present for someone else
Ah I'm glad I found this video. Years ago I saw a very low quality picture of one of these, and it was captioned as "Göring's personal Lugar". Nothing more. I tried to find more info but I was unsuccessful, so it was always a mystery to me if these guns actually existed. Thanks for the video!
What a gorgeous piece of work! Goring probably ordered them to present to his cronies, but they are so nice he decided to keep them for himself.
Or he simply planned to present them at the end of the war!
Patton: My guns have ivory grips
Goring: Thats adorable
Like a late medieval gold inlaid engraved wheellock. Intended for the highest ranks of the society, hundreds of man-hours spent on a single piece to make it gorgeous and never used in anger in their intended role.
Its ironic that much work goes to such instruments of death and they never find a chance to get fired in the middle of a world war.
Never know might got shot once at the end of the war 🤣
@asdrubale bisanzio If I have to use one for self defense, I would probably consider myself angry.
The intended role of a piece like this, is not shooting. It's more to show off and make other people envious.
I'm glad we have left this idea of beautifying weapons in the past. Imagine it in a current age, US Presidents getting nukes gold and platinum plated, with philosophical mantras of freedom engraved onto the side and gemstones covering the rivets. It would be weird.
@@GermanTopGameTV drip
Tomorrow Ian will shoot it, Sunday IV8888 does the 10,000 round torture test
I visited a very rich gun collector who lives in a castle in Belgium. He gave me the hunting rifle of King Ludwig II of Bavaria (he built the famous fairy tale castle "Neuschwanstein"). The Barrel is made of Damascus steel. It's a beautiful gun, incredibly valuable.
Can I have it to preserve its history?
Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever
But that was some fancy shooting
I had to scroll way too far to find this.
Was looking for this.
Well, there is an exception to the rule: the Webley Fosbery revolver.
For more information you can check out the C&Arsenal episode.
Skins = Wins
Interesting to see the left grip panel has broken just below the safety lever. Somebody didnt take the grip panel off correctly at some time.
It looked too have the same line on the other side as well......
@@anthonyb6503 maybe. I just know that if you take the left grip panel off incorrectly you run the risk of breaking off a little piece.
@@fattywithafirearm agreed, I commented on this as well. Pity a common mistake on such an uncommon example.
I’m sure you can pick up a spare 100 year old carved ivory grip anywhere really. No big deal
So glad to see Ian going strong as ever. Killing it with the content!
Found myself intrigued by the subject matter and lore.
TLDR:
Very professionally articulated, MyMan.
Damn, a video about my favourite pistol on my birthday.
Thanks Ian, you're my source of gun knowledge of all the interesting guns and how they work.
Have a nice day!
Didn't know Ian had a pack-a-punch machine at the place.
next time red baron‘s p08 or Lawrence of Arabia’s SMLE？
Herman was an art lover, he loved nice things and he had the chance to get something made that he wanted and he took it. What a lovely Luger ! best one I ever saw !
And I thought that Gold-damascened Russian thing was something you'd see in the hands of a Bond villain. This is straight out of a thousand war films.
Fun fact: A pair of these were featured in Resident Evil Code Veronica.
Except those were gold
So basically, they weren't these pistols lol.
Fun fact: no they weren’t.
@@kellanaldous7092 they may have been inspired by these pistol. The villains were originally going to be Nazis.
Fun fact: Fail
The date perhaps says it all.15 August 1939 was the date of a major air disaster at Neuhammer in Germany. There was a demonstration of Stuka dive bombers that ended with a large number of aircraft crashed and 26 pilots killed. It happened in front of a large number of senior generals: Hugo Sperrle, Bruno Loerzer, Wolfram von Richthofen and more. It was held at the new headquarters of Von Rundstedt's Army Group South.
I would strongly suspect that the weapons were intended to be presented to a number of senior general attending the event. But given what happened, they were either not presented or presented in a very quiet way and forgotten.
He probably dropped six million bands on that luger
4 am and I cannot sleep but I know my reward for suffering with insomnia is an episode of Forgotten Weapons. And damn is this a good one !
« Good news, there's a book out there. Bad news, it's really expensive and you can't get one »
Sums up pretty well what happens with computer stuff nowadays... 😂
That date was (coincidentally?) the date Goring's pet project, the Stuka dive bomber, was shown to the top luftwaffe officers at the "Neuhammer Catastrophe" www.airforcemag.com/article/0587stuka/
Thanks Ian. These pistols are possibly meant for the families of the thirteen pilots who died during a demonstration of Junkers, Stuka dive bombers, that occurred on 15th August 1939 for the high command in Silesia (in what is today Poland,) Germany. Hope that helps!
Things like this should be reserved for after you win the war you start.
Göring was more intelligent than you, don't ask me doe why he went for such a gaudy gun.
1:13 "it had been stored in a case that had acidic felt or leather, but that's not the case for this case"
Luger is my favourite pistol even as a kid I loved them. I had a cap gun Luger when I was about 8. Later on I got a 1939 Luger in mint condition 20 years later. This one is the holy grail for me.
I saw one of those Lugers in the early 1980s, at Deniliquin NSW Australia, in a collection of 9 Lugers owned by a farmer (wealthy farmer). I hate to think what happened to it and them when he died, probably surrendered in a gun amnesty and melted down.
I'm surprised to see that these engravings don't have any Nazi symbology.
Did they need any more of it. For God's sake it is even under their dinner plates :D
@Coach Black Pill Your Marxist teacher told you that? Such tendencies were/are taboo within the movement.
@toeff7852 Yet I write better than you, how weird huh?
I love how Leftists pat themselves on the back when all they have done is regurgitate some lies they have been indoctrinated with..
Was my comment about the movement in any way incorrect or are you just off your medication?
@@Willy_Tepes Do you even know what a Marxist even is and have you ever heard of Rommel? Dude didn't like Nazis despite working with them
@@finkamain1621 had no issues with murdering the Jews part though
"An American GI who brought this home" - like he picked it up at the gift shop lol
Are we supposed to feel bad for the Nazis because some American soldiers brought home some guns?
Göring did enough drugs to get the achievement and unlocked the platinum Luger skin.
I don’t think it was unheard of for arms makers to gift “presentation weapon” of extremely high quality to generals and politicians in WW11 Germany (and probably the practice continues worldwide today.)
Just when I thought that the Luger pistol couldn't look any more beautiful. Wow. 👌🏻🔥🔥🔥
Say what you will about the bad guys, but they have some good bling.
Hugo Boss was a member of the Nazi party and designed many uniforms for the German military.
Uniforms by Hugo Boss
Weapons by Krieghoff
Rides by Mercedes; I'll say one thing, they had style
Still extremely bad guys.
What do you mean "bad guys"?
There's no good or bad in war, only sides
Choose your brainwashing propaganda, put on the uniform and go for a nice walk in no man's land while your commander enjoys a whisky from the safety of his bunker
I'm not surprised that Admiral (not General) Doenitz never received such a gift from Goering. The Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine weren't the best of buddies.
Imagine being the guy that has to import mark stuff like this, a crime against antiqities
Good, and I cannot stress this enough, gravy
"It's a nice gun, I'll give you that. But the engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"
- Naked Snake (Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater)
"Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever..."
- Revolver Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain)
>:C
@@TheWolvesCurse c:
Neither does spinning them around on your fingers and juggling them for what seems like hours.
@@shesawitch3581 That's how he gets his bouncing bullet powers
Göring payed nothing for these platinum Lugers, he took them as a "gift".
this is.... beautiful...
Doesn´t matter who they were made for. It´s all about the skill of the gunsmith/artist and what they created. So while i´m not a fan of the Luger design (it has some glaring weaknesses), this pistol is a piece of art and skill.
I've been waiting for this! He may have been one of the most evil bastards of the modern era, but Herr Meyer definitely had an eye for aesthetics.
Göring liked to boast, and on 9 August 1939, Göring said, "The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Meier!"
@Nonoffensive Username Literally ordered Reinhard Heydrich to 'solve the Jewish Question', which led directly to the Holocaust.
So cool that you've handled so many historical guns. An autobiography would be awesome some day.
bro got his 50 headshots without dying camo
You should make a video about the proper procedure for removing a Luger’s grips, so you don’t chip your IRREPLACEABLE IVORY ONES!!!
If this is one of Göring`s Lugers then i have to admit that Göring did have some Taste i mean it`s Tacky af but it would be worse if the Gun would be gold plated
Did you ignore the part where the other 9 were gold plated?
@@kanedakrsa No, I only gave my opinion on the optical part or in short: platinum plated is tacky af but ok gold plated is just tacky af and ugly to look at (at least that's what I think)
@@kanedakrsa You got it wrong, one out of the ten was gold, the others were platinum.
@@AAArnold Remember the house tour scene in "Wall Street" where M. Douglas points out to C. Sheen the gold plated luger encased on the wall?? "Gold Luger, never fired"???????
On surrender, Goring handed over a pretty ordinary looking revolver, which I though was odd - I would have expected a Luger or Walther
on the 15.8.1939 there was a airshow from the luftwaffe. on that day 26 people lost there life on that air show so maybe, it was made for the airshow as a gift for some pilots.
i swear when you said "it makes sense that Goring would've ordered these' wouldve been followed up with something like "because dude was a real piece of work"
Holy Sh*t bucket! Yan has got to have a crazy contact network to get this close to this weapon!!!
and do a video on it
I can’t believe you were able to obtain this piece and show us.
I don’t know why I’m so shocked because you have a stout reputation when it comes to acquiring rare and absolutely gorgeous pieces.
But wow!
This piece is absolutely stunning,
I would give a arm and leg just for a replica piece made by a company with even silver plated and some material to look ivory and isn’t .
Just because the beauty of it.
Just to have in a case and behind glass somewhere in my house to show to only real fans of history to admire.
Man, idk why but I fell in love with the artillery Luger and have always dreamed of this one along with the gold plated one as like my “Dream Gun” to have.
Absolutely stunning and remarkable pistols.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing really!
I'm surprised Mark Felton hasn't done a video on this. If anyone knows who Goering gifted those Lugers to, it would be him!
Cronyism isn't limited to fascists.
But it does tend to be a particular feature of Fascism - and thank god for that, it made a complete and utter mess of German and Italian military procurement.
@@davidgillon2762 how about Soviets?
@@edi9892 or Western democracies? Military contracting is notoriously corrupt everywhere you go.
@@BlueGamingRage I've seen a lot of corruption in academia LOL. Politics in general are a festering wound, especially when the same old parties remain in power for decades (looking at you Democrats and Republicans).
@@edi9892 All high level politics are a den of corruption, backstabbing, clientelism and favor trading. No question about that.
But in the case of the Nazi hierarchy, it was actually instituted like that, beginning from how Hitler liked to play each of his close associates against each other in a perpetual ongoing fight to win power, attributions and his favor. So let's say that while in politics that's pretty much normal, the Nazis took it to the top level.
If Liberace had of had a Luger I imagine it would be a bit like that .
Not enough sequins.
@@nikolajwinther5955 Or an attachement point for Liberace's patented tactical candelabra light .
With the crazy serial number gaps, there’s probably an old abandoned train rusting away somewhere....with every boxcar full of NOS Luger pistols...
After reading the title I expected to see Ian sitting in front of THAT fireplace. Probably end up there.
Woah cool camo I wonder how many kills he got in BFV