North Africa Operation Compass Wargame

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2023
  • Today on Little Wars TV, we rewind the clock to January 1941 at the height of a major British offensive across Libya. This is the climax of Operation Compass, a wildly successful operation on the verge of wrecking Italian dreams in North Africa. We set up two tabletops to refight the twin battles at Derna airfield and Fort Mechili between the Italian army and the Commonwealth's Western Desert Force. Will the British momentum continue, or can the Italians finally stem the bleeding and hold firm?
    We're wargaming these battles in 6mm scale with GHQ miniatures on custom hex terrain.
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  • @lovelustig8142
    @lovelustig8142 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Yes! The African campaign is not represented enough in wargaming.

    • @militarywargaming7840
      @militarywargaming7840 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are doing east Africa as a tester before moving onto the big one North Africa th-cam.com/video/iNskn-wAyqs/w-d-xo.html

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Tbf it does have one of the longest wargames to play ever made dedicated: The Campaign for North Africa.
      An estimated completion time of 1500 hours and recommended 10 players with a 3m map board. It goes into ridiculously complex detail like Italian troops using more water because they cook pasta and every unit losing 3% of their fuel a turn due to evaporation(except the British who lose 7% a turn to represent the poorer storage method of oil drums in comparison to the Jerry can used by the Italians and Germans)

    • @lovelustig8142
      @lovelustig8142 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Haha yes, I know of that one. But thats not a game, it's a life style.

    • @tommagennis
      @tommagennis ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@deeznoots6241 Which is, if anything, perhaps a bit too much representation.

  • @bleachorange
    @bleachorange ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Desert warfare is almost always dramatic in both the tactical and operational level. I'm definitely interested to see more.

  • @WargamesTonight
    @WargamesTonight ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Ed put on a fine wargame and the video was fun to watch. I DEFINITELY would like to see more!

  • @stuartbaxter-potter8363
    @stuartbaxter-potter8363 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Yes! Give us the rest of the campaign! Like Greg said, it was really cool to see the Italians take center stage for once.

  • @stevovondivo2326
    @stevovondivo2326 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Fosters" - drunk by literally no Australian - warm or cold - free or paid...EVER 😂
    Another great show - thank you Ed and gang ❤

  • @MrEjstrud
    @MrEjstrud ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Please make this a series 👍 this was awesome

  • @elliotlane3225
    @elliotlane3225 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Yes, it will be great to see this theatre played out on your channel. A lot of British What-if histories start with the possibility of the fall of Egypt and the capture of the Suez Canal. Shows just how important the North African campaign was to the pre-Pearl Harbour war.

    • @generalsmite7167
      @generalsmite7167 ปีที่แล้ว

      It also was really important in the post Pearl Harbor war as it saw the first deployment of Americans in the European theater

  • @Eruidraith
    @Eruidraith ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Il Duce!” Shouted with the energy I might invoke the Emperors favor playing imperial guard in 40K! Made me cackle, the hat really adds to it

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well we do love funny hats around here. That’s for sure…

  • @axcelis6188
    @axcelis6188 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Honestly I absolutely love to see a Pyrrhic style campaign in North Africa. As I love desert warfare (in ww2) and I would love to see the interesting dynamics yall always include (Weather in a campaign for example)

  • @andypickard7314
    @andypickard7314 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Well done, Ed! Yes, more North Africa games, please.

  • @talesfromshedhq5208
    @talesfromshedhq5208 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where's Dieter and his wonderful Austrian accent when you need him! 😂😂

  • @EricAlainDufresne
    @EricAlainDufresne ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do continue with the North Africa series! All the best.

  • @mrgunn2726
    @mrgunn2726 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I say, General Miles Louch got quite the promotion to field marshal. Sadly, he is now known as 'Bloody Slouch'. A tip of the pith to Generalissmo Grigori for his stout defense of the airfield. Fantastic games all in all Little Wars team. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

  • @steveholmes11
    @steveholmes11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice to see you adopting Commomwealth military terminology "bolloxed". 🙂

    • @grahamtravers4522
      @grahamtravers4522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except it was the British Empire, not the Commonwealth.

    • @Vaultboy-ke2jj
      @Vaultboy-ke2jj ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grahamtravers4522 The Commonwealth has been called the Commonwealth since 1926 so he’s correct

  • @garyarmitage9359
    @garyarmitage9359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My sons and I are planning to refight the 1st gun-armed tank battle in North Africa which occurred at Gabr al Ahmar. A very competent Italian Tank Officer, Col. Aresca led the 4th Tank Regiment with a combined arms force including M11/39's, Bersaglieri and Royal Artillery against elements of the 7th Armored Brigade with A9 Cruisers. The Italians won the 1st gun armed tank battle in North Africa on 5 August 1940. Aresca was trying out combine arms and it was working. (Before the appearance of the Matilda) I totally agree with your assessment of the Italian Army. Folgore, the Bersaglieri, Royal Artillery and Ariete fought well and competently.

    • @nepete7
      @nepete7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TBF, the British did not know that the Italian 11/39s were coming at Gabr al Ahmar. These early battles are fascinating, some great scenarios in both the Too Fat Lardy books and Chadwick's "Benghazi Handicap", possibly the source for the two presented here.

  • @davidbarsdell6629
    @davidbarsdell6629 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seeing the Aussies in a Wargame gives me hope of a NZ themed Wargame. Either way great episode and lovely to see Italy and its beautiful hats!!!!!!! Great work and keep it up.

    • @MRFlackAttack1
      @MRFlackAttack1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’ll probably get so see them in the 3rd El Alamein episode.

    • @LukeBunyip
      @LukeBunyip 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you spot the Kiwi Bren Carriers in some of the intro video? G'day from across the Tasman

  • @robertjackson9050
    @robertjackson9050 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can't wait to see more of the North African campaign on your channel

  • @michaelmanning5379
    @michaelmanning5379 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's always fun to see the Italians and Brits struggle with inter-war tank designs.

  • @andrewtodd5919
    @andrewtodd5919 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The common Italian soldier gets a bad reputation. Rommel said when properly led they were as good as his German soldiers. Italian officers acted as an elite and had luxuries on campaign, never sharing the hardships of their men. Always root for Miles , today was not his day. Tony for El Duce lol. Great video guys

  • @gonatas1
    @gonatas1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Something you guys might try is using Sam Mustafa s Rommel for large operational desert battles.
    We did a large Crusader game a year back that worked really well, inspired by your Normandy game. And this summer we are doing the Gazala battles.

    • @gavinpearson74
      @gavinpearson74 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interested to know more…as very tempted by Sam’s rules set Rommel…but only tried a small game so far.

    • @gonatas1
      @gonatas1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gavinpearson74 Similiar to what LWTV did with the Normandy game, we played with microarmor (1:285) with units mounted on 2” by 1.5@ bases. Our grid squares are 100mm.
      We expanded the desert scale closer to 2km per square to allow for representing a large area from just west of Bardia to the eastern defenses of Tobruk. Artillery ranges were adjusted to the new scale but we preserved the stacking and each unit was representing a reinforced company on the table. We figured the unique desert environment made thinner formations and more extended frontages supportable at the increased ground scale.
      This also allowed us to represent almost the entire Africa Korps and the 8th army involved in Crusader on a 10’ x 6’ table. Turn scale was also condensed to 12 turns per day with a night turn following.
      The Rommel rules were ideal for simply representing the free for all that ensued-very much in line with WWII western desert warfare. With formations fighting to pin and encircle each other we very much had a naval battle on land as you might expect.

  • @metalalby920
    @metalalby920 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great map, would love to see more modern battles

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      More modern you say? You’ll very much enjoy our NEXT wargame then!

    • @russby3554
      @russby3554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@LittleWarsTV oh you teases!

  • @sullivannix4509
    @sullivannix4509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of those channels where I automatically hit the like button, even before I’ve watched the video

  • @jjsheets330
    @jjsheets330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ED fan club approves this episode and this series 👍🏻
    Our moar ED 2023 campaign has paid off. YES!!!!!!!!

  • @NotMCKarl
    @NotMCKarl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great game from a CRIMINALLY underrepresented theatre of war. Bravery and daring were off the charts in the African theatre.

  • @adampriestley7732
    @adampriestley7732 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    More of the North Africa campaign and Ed please. Such a great episode.

  • @jeremybain3830
    @jeremybain3830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never clicked off another video so fast, to watch tiny soldiers do battle. Love these battles!

  • @bace9381
    @bace9381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes continue the battles

  • @rileyosteen6470
    @rileyosteen6470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love early north africa! Thank you!

  • @byronzeigler4427
    @byronzeigler4427 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to see the rest of the North African campaign. Thank you

  • @105Gunner
    @105Gunner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another vote yes for more of the North African campaign and glad to finally see the great GHQ MicroArmour on LWTV!

  • @klausfritsch4350
    @klausfritsch4350 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for going to North Africa, the most interesting theater in my opinion.

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something about it always captures the imagination. There’s a kind of odd romanticism of the desert war that lingers

  • @sterlingnorthum3911
    @sterlingnorthum3911 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely please I would love to see the rest of the campaign finished. My wife's grandfather fought and was injured during this campaign and it's always held an interest to me after finding that out.

  • @Anvilarm07
    @Anvilarm07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL Love the intro comments about the British being scattered. The western desert is my favourite campaign in WWII and the British have a long, proud tradition of scattering their forces. OMG that terrain is gorgeous. I love Gregg's helmet. Yes please for the follow up battles. Also this is not a criticism, but I really like games with a bit more fog of war aspect. Confuse and bewilder those players, Mr. Referee!

  • @xcandiottix
    @xcandiottix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a whole desert campaign would be an amazing series to watch!

  • @peteenglish8773
    @peteenglish8773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the disclaimer about Benito, I was worried.

  • @alexanderhammond7205
    @alexanderhammond7205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could watch this as a whole season, more please!

  • @DrewShotsFan
    @DrewShotsFan ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yes, please keep this theatre going. You can't start a story and not finish it

  • @mabinogion7023
    @mabinogion7023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely work. An underrated campaign

  • @benjaminwaterhouse4879
    @benjaminwaterhouse4879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My late father in law served in the 4th Indian Division in the desert. He always gave the Italians their due as hard fighters; he said their problem was poor generalship and lack of transport.

  • @babylonsburning1
    @babylonsburning1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Desert War was pivotal to WW2, before El Alamein we never won a battle after, we never lost one. More please.

  • @teaandmedals7677
    @teaandmedals7677 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent video as ever.
    The WW2 war games are a joyful mix of history/entertainment
    I hope the Vietnam games may make a return one day ?

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome, yes, North Africa campaign!

  • @FigonGoT20
    @FigonGoT20 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great game, love the 6mm WWII games, and looking forward to the rest of your planned North Africa games!

  • @heikoabeyer
    @heikoabeyer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You always give us great Battle-Reports! Thanks so much!

  • @jardinestirling1916
    @jardinestirling1916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, definitely it will be great to see this theatre played out on your channel.

  • @elliskaranikolaou2550
    @elliskaranikolaou2550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Guys. Well done.

  • @gregdavidson1293
    @gregdavidson1293 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the stuff you guys do. The tables and figures are fantastic. Thanks.

  • @MrArmour
    @MrArmour ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see more of these. That was splendid!

  • @oriole21bird
    @oriole21bird ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! Thank you guys for all the cool content.

  • @billmasters385
    @billmasters385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This balanced engagement alone shows the potential for future fun and mayhem. Yes please.

  • @Ben-of-old-Yorkshire
    @Ben-of-old-Yorkshire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for this since I glimpsed it in the season trailer! Love your battle reports and your tables, always beautiful. Much underrepresented period, looking forward to seeing more.

  • @keithflint7243
    @keithflint7243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fine wargaming video. Thanks for putting it out. Of course, like everyone else, I'd like to see more! Only reservation - the accusation of Italian 'cowardice' was never directly addressed. I think we all know their problems stemmed from poor training, equipment, senior command and logistics.

  • @douggalbreath736
    @douggalbreath736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always loved the Desert War. Hope to see you keep these going! Thank you for posting these on TH-cam.

  • @ryanwhy1585
    @ryanwhy1585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to watch the rest of this series!

  • @battlescalewargamebuilding4316
    @battlescalewargamebuilding4316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video. Fascinating stuff 👍🏻

  • @StormofSteelWargaming
    @StormofSteelWargaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific video that! Really enjoyed it!

  • @Uncle_T
    @Uncle_T ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would very much like to see more North African battles, absofrikkinlutely!

  • @Stumptonian1
    @Stumptonian1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent video. I really like the hex terrain you used. Looking forward to the next chapter.

  • @davidsumpter7117
    @davidsumpter7117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always been interested in the North African campaigns, I’d love to see more.

  • @seanhillman1016
    @seanhillman1016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely return to the North Africa. This was a great video.

  • @jaredmolberg7125
    @jaredmolberg7125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic content fellas, please keep it coming.

  • @jgrasela
    @jgrasela ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed the video. Please keep the North Africa stuff coming!

  • @robertshaw5296
    @robertshaw5296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes please more. Love your videos

  • @Lewismarty1
    @Lewismarty1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOVE this. Glad to see you back to gaming consistently. The battlefield tours and rule reviews are fun, but I love seeing y'all roll dice!

  • @markmulcahey5172
    @markmulcahey5172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, great tables and figures. Really looking forward to seeing the rest of the battles

  • @Shieldwall100
    @Shieldwall100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice indeed. Well done finding a gameable scenario from this part of the campaign! If you do continue, good luck recounting the craziness of Operation Crusader.

  • @johndesch7251
    @johndesch7251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great report! Love the terrain and well painted models! Go micro!

  • @billyfd
    @billyfd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic episode guys, great table Ed!! And most definitely, keep the North African series going! :-)

  • @lokey85
    @lokey85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jolly good stuff, keep it up chaps!

  • @jakubfurst6471
    @jakubfurst6471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video guys! I must say that episodes featuring Ed and Miles are my favorite! I look forward to the rest of the campaign.

  • @user-lq3fz7px8w
    @user-lq3fz7px8w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, please continue the North Africa Campaign. Ed please do more . I really enjoyed this video of WWII battle.

  • @danielcannon9893
    @danielcannon9893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great looking table Ed!

  • @jasonb1776
    @jasonb1776 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! More of this please! The North African campaigns are so interesting and very often overlooked. It was great to see another of your club games too. It is good to look at other clubs and other features, but it is your club games which keep bringing me back. Thank you for such a great video.

  • @andyedwards9222
    @andyedwards9222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a most enjoyable pair of games. Lovely tables, definitely want to see more North African action.

  • @ericscherck2582
    @ericscherck2582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video! I definitely want to see more.

  • @philcarrington830
    @philcarrington830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic stuff - more please. The figures and terrain look superb and I'd love to see more on this (with close ups !). Hopefully there'll be a follow-on.

  • @pissingeverywhere
    @pissingeverywhere ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so unbelievably good. The kind, mild-mannered narration, the passion for the game and the theater, it all just fills me with such a good feeling. I look forward to the continuation.

  • @owenphillips1646
    @owenphillips1646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love when you guys play campaigns - makes each battle matter more.

  • @peteenglish8773
    @peteenglish8773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greg likes playing the Italians because he gets to wear the fantastic pith helmet!

  • @jordancrump7518
    @jordancrump7518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! I didn’t know anything about the North African campaign until I played No Retreat #2 by Carl Paradis, but now I can’t get enough of it. Please do cover this more!

  • @dennissaring5484
    @dennissaring5484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, i would like to see more games of the dessert theatre. By the way - fantastic looking scenery!

  • @munrojames3
    @munrojames3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More please, this is great 👍

  • @bobroberts6702
    @bobroberts6702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality games and presentation. Definitely keep them coming.

  • @zilla_uk6693
    @zilla_uk6693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a great game and video, as always. I can't wait for the video on the Generals. More North Africa, please

  • @Pengi_SMILES
    @Pengi_SMILES ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Would definitely love to see the rest of the Desert campaign played out!
    My Maternal Grandfather was in Africa with the 1st army, and later in Italy (and Cassino) so pleased to see the North African campaign get some love.

  • @craighamilton7365
    @craighamilton7365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! Would love to see more!

  • @Grashan
    @Grashan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As the late, great Richard Berg said, unless Italian forces have to account for extra water rations for their soldiers to boil pasta, the game isn't truly a Campaign For North Africa.

  • @iainfuller5083
    @iainfuller5083 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cracking episode chaps. Lovely kit on display and great terrain as usual. Also using my favourite set of rules for 6mm SWW and Modern games. Yes to more N. African games please.

  • @robkoper841
    @robkoper841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always a fan of "fog of war", GM'ed games, and house rules. Well done, Ed!

  • @edwardstabletoparmies955
    @edwardstabletoparmies955 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to more in this series. I thoroughly enjoyed this as it is not something I know a lot about apart from the main events.

  • @reglavcor
    @reglavcor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love the sound effects during the battle.

  • @j.b.macadam6516
    @j.b.macadam6516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great game, guys! North Afrika is indeed, my favorite campaign. Really looking forward to Crusader, my favorite operation. A wild desert melee, with few fixed lines, and lots of confusion. Keep up the good work!

  • @pearsonbrantley8012
    @pearsonbrantley8012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely want to see the North Africa campaign in wargame! Do it!

  • @lawrence142002
    @lawrence142002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I've learned watching these videos is that Miles, for better or worse, is almost always hyper-aggressive in his early moves no matter what.

  • @joeparvana9549
    @joeparvana9549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic looking game, thanks for putting it on

  • @markhenderson6389
    @markhenderson6389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic game! The Western Desert Campaign is my favorite theater and period of WWII. Looking forward to the next battle!

  • @adamparry8897
    @adamparry8897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely would love to see additional battles

  • @peterloft6281
    @peterloft6281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful terrain as always and certainly think it would be terrific to see the campaign continue.

  • @cjhuntsinger2277
    @cjhuntsinger2277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! Make this a continuous narrative campaign!

  • @josephgough30
    @josephgough30 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    North Africa has always been one of my favorite theatres! I would love to see more wargames for this period!