Little fun fact: Both characters steal each other's iconic lines. Broly says at the start, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry," which is Hulk's famous bit. Shortly after, Broly calls Hulk a monster, to which Hulk responds, "No...the Devil!" Which was an iconic line from the original Broly movie and was often associated with the character.
From what I have seen, most people agree they actually massively overhyped Hulk to make this seem close. Apparently that universe Hulk destroyed was fairly tiny, and he rarely actually reaches anywhere near universe destroying power. Meanwhile even the older and weaker Broly could destroy galaxies.
THANK. YOU. All of Hulk's "Universal" feats are just Pocket Dimensions being shaken and NOT the actual Marvel Universe. Also Hulk LOST to Hyperion, he got punched out and reverted to Banner.
@@Bleeperblopper497 @oceandragoon3099 Bro, Broly has never destroyed a galaxy. Even Vegito Super sayan blue, who is stronger than him, can't do it and never has either. That's one. Two, a UNIVERSE is MUCH LARGER THAN A COUPLE OF GALAXIES. In other words, you contradicted yourself in your comment. You are literally agreeing with the other side. Three, Hulk has unlimited strength (which Broly does not), he has the most broken regeneration of his entire universe, he can regenerate from a subatomic level; his raw strength increases in exponential succession geometrically, fueled by his rage and the power source of One Bellow All, of which he is avatar; he has exerted forces equivalent to trillions of billions of thousands of tons, and he has endured blows with equivalent forces and not even flinched. His weakest version in base state, destroyed a meteor twice the size of the Earth with a single punch (on another occasion, one of approximately 25 times), withstood the power of billions of stars on himself, and overcame it with sheer brute force. He defeated all the gods of the Norse pantheon (some even more powerful than Thor). He joined a f*ck*ng PLANET (CONSIDERABLY LARGER THAN HIS OWN) FROM THE CORE, JOINING ITS TECTONIC PLATES, OF TWO COLOSSAL HALVES. It repelled the weight of a cosmic being that was attacking this dimension, again, by sheer force. He destroyed a Dark dimension Universe (which is much bigger than a Pocket universe, so small nothing); with one punch he made the whole Marvel Multiverse tremble, and all the existing spacetime lines resonate. Etc. etc., etc. If anything, Broly was that they pumped him up too much. This fight had to have been defined from the halfway point, if we were sticking to their respective comic book versions, if we were really serious about it.
@@Bleeperblopper497 On the other hand, Hyperius defeated the base Hulk and not even the base Hulk of his version or one of his more powerful versions; but the base Hulk of an intermediate version. Stop talking so much cr*p, please.
Broly went from being a planet buster at best when he started the fight with vegeta and goku, to being over universal+ and reality busting.. all within a couple hours what took vegeta and goku so many years to accomplish.. if the fight went on Broly would win easily.
5:27 Actually, and here's a scary fact here: Hulk didn't become the Worldbreaker by abandoning Banner. Rather, Hulk amd Banner, as the Green Scar, were one. As such, the Worldbreaker only came about because Hulk AND BANNER both felt such earth-shattering Rage, Despair and Hatred all at once, that it brought Hulk into Critical Mass. And to give you an idea how strong Worldbreaker Hulk (or Hulk at Critical Mass) was: he created Gamma earthquakes that tore the island of Manhattan to pieces... by walking. Yes, simply him putting one foot in front of the other created huge shockwaves enough to turn ALL OF MANHATTAN into rubble. Which, yes, means that Worldbreaker Hulk is roughly on par or even greater than The Rumbling from Attack on Titan. Like no joke, Hulk is the size of a TICK compared to a Wall Titan and yet yielded equal or greater physical power to at least THREE of them. By the way, if you are ever liquid enough in revenue, I highly recommend getting the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk omnibuses. The World War Hulk saga is bonafide perfection on inked paper; the closest thing Marvel has to a literary Epic.
Many had problems with Hulk's "immortality" and how Broly was able to surpass it, but there're two characters from Dragon Ball Z that although weaker than Broly were capable of the exact same immortality: Cell and Buu. Cell and Buu were capable of withstand incredible amounts of power and performed kamikaze attacks that left them almost destroyed, but if there's a single trace of them, they are capable of regenerating their bodies - Cell was able to survive his attack and his core survived which regenerated him to his Super Perfect Form, but in the end he was destroyed by Gohan; and Majin Buu survived every kind of ki based attack, including the destruction of a planet, only to be completely killed by Goku's Spirit Bomb. If you consider these two examples, then the concept of Hulk's immortality shown here is basically the same. Still, the ending I admit I didn't like how non-explain they made.
Why mentioning DB feats of immortality and regeneration and comparing it to the Hulk? It doesn't make sense, not only because the universes are different (duh), but the situations are also kind of different, by their logic Hulk dying is fine I guess. But the problems come when you actually start to scale Hulk, like, I'm pretty sure the nerve/brain thing or whatever is not a thing anymore with Hulk, or even it's inconsistent with other Hulk previous feats, other problem would be how they scale both Hulk and Broly, since both characters are beyond infinite universal, top tier power scailers for both verses disagreed with the results and scailing, I think even some Death Battle writer thought their scailing was kinda bad
@@rainofkhandaq6678 Keep in mind that Broly has a multiplier worth of power it's an exponential increase. Also his base power is unknown because its his base power that keeps increasing with no limit. then just multiply that by 50 because like it or not Legendary Supersaiyan by every standard officially is still X50 because its just Super saiyan (they legit did away with the "legendary" part of the name because its a title not a form) They even mention this countless times in the manga and anime where Goku and Vegeta can turn into the Legendary Super Sayain way before broly was a thing and they clearly ret-conned calling Broly that in the new movie. All that matters is that the Base power is vastly more then the rest because thats where it matters. In short his Base level is greater then SSG goku (which can't be calculated correctly because no one can sense it and there's no rules for it just feats) and Just multiply that by 50 when he goes ssj.
they ware regenerating a healing factor not immortallity and cell needed his core to survive wich was destryod buu was reincarneted by the spirit bomb none of those 2 hade the abillity to littrly revive after death
@@adam-dn3hi Both of which are actually superior to Hulks immortality. They noted in the episode that Hulk requires some element of his physical form to regenerate from, and that the most impressive version, the Maestro regenerating from a skeleton, took years of passively absorbing gamma radiation to achieve. Cell, by contrast, only requires a single cell to survive to regenerate almost instantly, and Buu doesn't even need that. As long as he has energy left, Buu can come back from being vaporized entirely.
Just so you know the new Broly dosen't have that ptsd of the word "Kakarot." Buts he's also just a much better character than the older version since he isn't a gaint baby. Also you were a little mixed up with Hulks immortality. He dosen't come back forever immune to what killed him the last time (that's Doomsday), so you could just continue to rip his head off, but it wouldn't really matter because he would just come back. Also they may not have directly said that Hulk might not have overpowered the one below all, but they did show you the exact image they used when he said he'd only be gone for about a minute.
I hate super Broly . Super Broly is basically Snow White . They should have used Z Broly . As a Broly fan . I am disappointed what they did to Broly . They ruined him .
@@ShirouBrando I love z Broly by far . His the original and also I don’t like super Broly being kind, nice caring . I want him to be a sadistic, cold blooded emotionless, heartless , psychotic, rampaging killer . I wanted to see him kill his father . I wanted to see him laugh , maniacally. I wanted that ruthless aggression . Super Broly backstory was shit and there shouldn’t be any need for character development. He is what a true sayian is . A pissed off ticking time bomb that’s about to explode. He should have survived the planet destruction as a baby . Like a boss . His father , like in the original should have mind controlled him. And sooner or later that thing will stop working and he will look at his dad like you’re next and crushed him to death. But I got a emotional bitch that cares . I am pissed and if you think Snow White ,,, oh sorry I mean super emotional Broly is better then yeah something is wrong .
@@ILikeCHEEZ9 the new super movie . One villain I wanted to be canon . But they screwed my favorite villain over and god I was so hyped for this movie . But it was a let down .
They basically traded iconic quotes at the start "You won't like me when I'm angry" is an iconic Hulk quote "I'm not a monster, I'm a devil" is the quote from the old Broly movie But I'm pretty sure everyone already knows, so I just want to point out the obvious
Oh boy... Im so excited to see you watch season 8. Some of the best episodes of the entire show, along with some of the best music. Widely considered the most consistently strong seasons of the entire show, with some of the best backing tracks, animations and voice acting, with only one episodes that's kinda been considered a dud... and even then it wasn't even that bad. This episodes song was called "Ikari", which translates to "Rage" in Japanese... fitting. Id actually really enjoy seeing you react to the tracks of Death Battle, and even some of Brandon Yates' commissions. He does much of the music for the show and does fan commissions, all of which are insane, my favorite being "Will of the Drill", a track for an MU I SERIOUSLY hope happens on the show: Kyle Rayner vs Simon the Digger.
The theme is Ikari which means rage, fitting for two berserkers in the most destructive Death Battle…literally. They destroyed reality 2 dozen times over threw head butting each other!
Duck to be honest hulk healing isn't that impressive compared to see characters in the DBZ franchise the likes of perfect cell and Majin Buu could regenerate from the cellular level all you have too do took kill them is to leave nothing left to regenerate from
Yeah. The only problem is they are still pretty dogshit at properly scaling bleach characters (like bruh ichigo or aizen solo the naruto verse so how tf is naruto beating ichigo and Madara beating aizen?)
@@linkfan6555 bro just watch seththeprogrammers Madara vs aizen.. the amount of cap in that statement is astounding. The only other thing I’m gonna say is dbs explanation of truth seeking orbs is complete bs. 1. ‘Aizen has no way to do the same irreversible damage to Madara’ DB Legit talks like the truth seeking orbs destroying souls is something aizen can’t do, when legit basically every bleach character can attack the soul directly.. 2. They say aizen can’t regen from the truth seeking orbs even though it only halted regen from the edo tenseis since it nullifies ninjutsu.. edo tensei is a NINJUTSU
This felt pretty 1 sided in my opinion. I mean Z Broly was strong enough to casually wipe out galaxies and Super Broly, even just in base form, is one an entire different level. There was just no way Hulk was gonna close the power difference before getting overwhelmed himself. Still this fight is awesome and still another favourite of mine - Just clarification but new Broly doesn't hate Goku. In fact at the end of the movie they're pretty much buddies. With Goku even letting him call him by his Saiyan name
so the thing about hulk having a healing advantage over broly, the DBZ Ki can heal people, to an extent, but the healing factor still has limits against immense power. the healing factor almost being unlimited shaped another battle result, Wolverine vs Raiden (X-men vs Metal Gear Rising). while some stunts Wolverine has shown in comic history are nothing short of broken, the context showed the true limits.
They never said anything about Hulk's healing factor being like Doomsday's, because it isn't. Hulk's simply heals whatever wound killed him, that's not the same as becoming immune to it. The importance of the hypothalamus to Hulk's healing factor was not only emphasized greatly in the analysis of this episode, it was one of the biggest parts of Hulk's last episode too. So vaporizing Hulk would absolutely put him down, like they said. And like they also said, that's what happens at the end of almost all Dragon Ball fights anyway. They also never said anything about Hulk scaling to The One Below All, just that he thunderclapped him away. There has been discussion about this fight, but only because a lot of people had Hulk as way stronger than he was shown here, but never with very good arguments as to why. This result is for all intents and purposes correct still, despite me rooting hard for Hulk
I also call bullshit on all of Hulks "Universal" feats which are all just wanked Dimensional feats and that Hulk has been put down by weaker foes too, so all of his high-balled feats not consistent enough to be true
Yah, I've seen a few of those debunk videos and a lot of their points don't add up. The one I'll link below tries to argue that the Marvel universe is infinite in scale, thereby Hulk's universe mulitiplier would be far larger than Broly's. If you actually read the displayed scans though, the wording isn't super specific to the actual size of the universe (Ex. "The edge of the universe is BLANK light years away"), and mostly illustrates the surroundings of certain characters as "infiite voids". Put more simply, they use the term "infinite void" as a description more than an exact measurement, and when something like that is vaguely defined, it's always better to go with the conservative estimate like the 1 trillion light year stat DB later discussed. th-cam.com/video/QdeDj8T1aqI/w-d-xo.html
The new Dragonball Super Broly and the old Dragonball Z Broly are entirely different characters in terms of backstory, personality and lore. The new Broly's backstory essentially involves King Vegeta deeming him too much of a danger for his own bloodline, as Baby Broly was shaping up to be many times more powerful than King Vegeta's son (a.k.a. Vegeta himself). Therefore, after ordering Broly's execution via stranding Broly on a hostile planet. Broly's Father Paragus would join him on that planet later on (basically just in time to avoid being caught up in Planet Vegeta getting Frieza'd), and in blind hatred, Paragus effectivley tried to raise Broly as a killing machine so that they may one day get their revenge on King Vegeta. In his time on the planet however, Broly basically grew up without any sort of social interaction, developing anger issues due to his father's abuse, but an otherwise innocent personality due to his lack of interaction. Basically, the new Broly has no problem with Goku/Kakarot, and has no real trigger words, instead Paragus effectivley uses a shock collar on Broly instead, and that is what triggers his rage. In essence, Broly is the protagonist of the new Broly movie, instead of the villain of the story, and they pretty much fixed every problem that people had with old Broly if you ask me.
Sadly they speak of the "posible potential" of Broly but they didn't talk about "The Breaker of Worlds" (Breaker- Apart), the "final" form of The Hulk possesed by The One Below All...
The problem with that is that it's not really Hulk anymore as he's not in control over the body or the power within it, The One Below All is. It's not an accurate scale of what Hulk is capable of on his own. As opposed to what we've outright seen from characters Broly scales higher than.
Alright, Season 8 consists of 16 episodes, mostly based on frequently-requested matchups. Here's the order: Yoda vs. King Mickey Shadow vs. Ryuko Matoi Lex Luthor vs. Doctor Doom Heihachi Mishima vs. Geese Howard Blake Belladonna vs. Mikasa Ackerman Iron Fist vs. Po Steven Universe vs. Star Butterfly Link vs. Cloud (2021) Batman vs. Iron Man Goku Black vs. Reverse Flash Macho Man vs. Kool-Aid Man DIO vs. Alucard Akuma vs. Shao Kahn Korra vs. Storm Madara Uchiha vs. Sosuke Aizen Saitama vs. Popeye
To answer: broly one shots, this isn’t even close. Also: in the comics the immortality of the devil hulk is from the green door, his healing itself is natural ability of hulk, though you can knock him out and revert him from damage, or by damage to the brain. Wolverine accomplishes this several times by stabbing him in the head
Not like Doomsday. Hulk regenerates from whatever killed him, however it killed him. That is: if he is melted - his body doesn’t just pop out of a green puddle of purple pantsed hulk goo. No. His body reconstitutes itself out of said puddle. So he needs access to all of his bits to regenerate. Which is why when he had* once been cut into several pieces, each part was stored in a separate jar to keep his healing factor from allowing them to come together and heal. Like you saw his head do in the Death Battle. Doomsday dies of a peanut allergy. Comes back literally unable to die from a peanut allergy ever again. …. See? Different. Edited Because: I can’t spell for nuts.
like Wiz said in the analysis, in the movie appropriately called Dragon ball super Broly, Broly was so strong, Goku and Vegeta had to go somewhere else in order to have enough time to fuse with each other and create the mighty Gogeta.
I think you got Hulk’s kind of regeneration and death proofing confused with Doomsday. Who Hulk also lost to in Death Battle. Basically, Broly’s power could overpower God Goku/Vegeta (red hair) and his super saiyan got to Blue level and higher raising as time went on. In comparison to Broly being around Ssj2 in his original movie. I thought you skipped the Beerus battle for spoiler reasons! (Also I brought up both Beerus and Hulk because I knew this fight was going to happen in my last MHA comment.) No Beerus was NOT trying when he fought Goku. They even compared Beerus TO Broly IN that 2018 Broly movie. Except…no rage adrenaline situation in Beerus’ way to get to such a level. +divine ki. +hakai. And not including any UI trigger.
He skipped Beerus' DB because the video was taken down by Toei and he doesn't want to upset them after what happened to Totally Not Mark and his OG channel
Actually Broly’s new base in the canon story is on par with ssj Goku and Vegeta, his Ikari form was stated to be on par with ssjb, which is proved in their fight, then Broly goes ssj on top of Ikari (that’s why his ssj form was so strong, Broly’s ssj form is nothing special) he got a 50x boost, making him 50x that of blue Goku and Vegeta, that’s why he was owning their ass, and then he proceeded to completely merge ssj with Ikari to get that green haired form/full power ssj, so you see in the canon story, Broly doesn’t possess Lssj but is still way way way stronger than his Z counter part
Yeah, those are concerning Death Battles that are left out. However, the 1 Death Battle he should be skipping is Blake Vs. Mikasa for Attack on Titan Spoilers.
Additional fun fact: The animation where Hulk puts his head back on is inspired by a similar scene in That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime. Id tell you more but thats spoilers for the first season. Its a good show, you should check it out.
7:05 just to add a little caveat on the whole thing, it turn out that the one below all(devil) is The one above all (god) hulk so he’s essentially a god and a devil
I remember reading something from the old Hulk comics where one guy who im sure isnt as strong as Brolly punched the Hulk SO HARD that he turned back into Bruce Banner....with a single Punch......and that mans name is Blackbolt King of the inhumans.....iv only seen a few of the pages but Blackbolt just pops Hulk in the face who then falls over says something alone the lines of "your strong" and then passes out and turns back into banner there are more recent comics where versions of hulk have tanked Blackbolts strongest blows though....and by blows I dont mean his punches because Blackbolts physical strength is nothing compared to his quasi sonic voice which can destroy planets the man cant even whisper cause the shockwave is like a small nuclear blast
3:100 pretty much The "monster inside of him" was another personality that he developed to deal with his abusive father it protected him and shielded him from the abuse that side of him was like a wild animal it only knew pain and anger and then it got given a physical body that had super strength
That's the thing about DBZ/DBS characters. The powerscaling in the Dragonball universe is downright absurd, to the point that there are very few beings from other universes that could even hope to compete. For instance, Nappa, one of the very first (and ultimately weakest) villains in DBZ with a power level of about 8,000 would very likely still be far beyond literally any character from the Naruto universe, including Madara. Even in early DBZ, most major characters were at least planet-buster level. And by the time of the Tournament of Power in Super, there were a ton of galaxy and universe buster level characters.
@@theduckgoesmoo Seeing as you watched Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, let me remind you that Shou Tucker exists. But yeah, you're better off not knowing what other fictional dads like Brian Banner did. Especially Craster (from A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones).
@@theduckgoesmoo Maybe "worst" isn't the right word. Perhaps a better way to say is "disappointing match-ups." The mid-season fight before their summer break was pretty controversial.
7:00 Bit of Marvel lore: Just as there is a counterforce for every force, a shadow for every light, and a reaction for every action, there is the One Below All. The One Below is the dark twin of the Marvel multiverse's top god, the One Above All. While there have been many hell lords and devils claiming to be the one true embodiment of evil, the One Below All may be the true source of all evil, or at least the closest of any evil entity. Despite being like the One Above All in that it's metaphysical, transcending the very Multiverse, being present everywhere, including right there in your room hating you, it's been forbidden from interacting with the Multiverse or any one soul. Hence the name, it's not the One Above All's second in command, after all, it's the one BELOW every living being. 22:25 DUMMI was describing The Mask, in case you were wondeirng. You’ve finally finished Season 7. And now for Season 8. Like before I'm going to give you a list of all the episodes of Season 8. Yoda VS King Mickey, Shadow VS Ryūko, Lex Luthor VS Doctor Doom, Heihachi Mishima VS Geese Howard, Blake Belladona VS Mikasa Ackerman, Iron Fist VS Po, Steven Universe VS Star Butterfly, Link VS Cloud (2021), Batman VS Iron Man, Goku Black VS Reverse-Flash, Macho Man VS Kool-Aid Man, DIO VS Alucard, Akuma VS Shao Kahn, Korra VS Storm, Madara VS Aizen, and Saitama VS Popeye.
You're wrong cause all of Hulk's "Universal" feats are just him shaking Pocket Dimensions and he's been defeated by lesser foes before, so his Universe shaking is not consistent enough.
@@Bleeperblopper497 Broly has also been beaten by lesser foes. Who has beaten them isn’t a good way to measure their strength because different comics are different universes
@@theamazingg3773 Gogeta Blue is NOT a lesser foe, Hulk got punched out by Hyperion and reverted to Banner, which happened in the MAIN universe, NOT an alternate one. Again, Hulk has never shook the actual Marvel universe, Nightcrawler's realm was just a pocket universe with few a land masses in it, same for any other feat he did that gets wanked.
Honestly the Wrath form is one of the best things to come out of the movie, I have a thing for highly aggressive forms such as Darkspine Sonic and Legend Dark Spyro.
While the punching sound effects can be better for the fight, Broly should be speaking gibberish at best after transforming into Super Saiyan, I don't agree with them saying Z Broly and Super Broly are the same character (one's a gentle giant and the other is a genocidal maniac), and I don't agree with the verdict, this is still a good episode. Ikari (the fight song) is a banger (even though it sounds more like the Broly song than Hulk vs Broly), I love them using there some of their most well known phrases against one another (Hulk's don't get me angry line and Broly's devil line), the effects are awesome, and the beginning and ending are some of my favorites in the whole show. All I'm gonna say for next season is that it's gonna be a roller-coaster.
I just wanna point out they low balled Broly. True goku's base in Super is equal to God(he does end up getting stronger through training overtime but no exact numbers) however after he fought Hit in the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc he went from barely matching Hit with a x10 multiplier stacked on top of Blue(honestly he would've lost due to the strain alone) to later tying with hit in just Blue. In short he got AT LEAST 10 times as strong after that fight so it would be only fair to assume Broly's strength would be 10 times the number they gave, thus widening the gap even more.
Death Battle fucks up a lot of things, they also give a lot of weird out of context feats that sometimes sound greater than what they really were. They fused and then wanked a BUNCH of different versions of the Hulk and put him so far beyond what he could actualy accomplish to make this "seem" a reasonable fight in the beggining, even though this monstrous amalgam wouldn't even be on the level of SSJ God Goku in Battle of Gods. A Goku that is literally hundreds of times weaker than Goku at the end of Super.
Yeah, that season had a couple of egregious examples of them naming a feat and not giving the context for it. The Hulk's defeating the One Below All feat in this one, and Red Hood breaking Supergirl's grip in Winter Soldier vs Red Hood. They even said, "Don't take Jason breaking Supergirl's grip out of context." Dude, you just told us about this feat out of context! Thankfully, they moved away from cheap stuff like out of context feats in the next season.
Yeah, but unlike with the Jason fight they straight up showed you the panel that said Hulk only did that to by them time. So if you read it then you were fine.
I talked about Hulk, I'll keep Broly brief. Old Broly (aka Legendary Super Sayian Broly) isn't the same as DBS Broly. Old Broly isn't canon. Kale isn't a "Legendary Super Sayian" her Super Sayian form is completely different. Its called **Super Sayian Berserker**. DBS Broly isn't a Legendary Super Sayian whatsoever, he has a completely different story it's like they combined the two characters as if they were the same. DBS Broly doesn't have to constantly leak out energy. **All Sayians gets stronger as they fight and are strengthen by anger and rage. Its not unique to Broly. ** The whole Super Sayian A type shit was from a random V-Jump (jmost popular anime magazine) which isn't even written or approved Toriyama or anyone relevant. **Side note: They also used Super Exciting Guide which is also not the best guide to use. Daizenshuu is a guide written by Toriyama idk why they don't use it.** They downplayed the characters because they downplayed the Dragon Ball cosmology. DB universes aren't finite in size. So trying to give it a linear number to compare to outs doesn't make sense. Lastly DBS Broly's final gorm is called Full Power Super Sayian. Also Gogeta Blue didn't try until the very end where he about to kill him before he got saved. Goku and Vegeta also didn't go all out. No Kaioken, no Ultra Instinct, no SSB Evolution. It was really out of character to leave and fuse the way they did.
@@connorwood9211 Except he does have something to put Doomsday down. What Death Battle not only didn't mention, but even tried to pretend wasn't true at all, was that Doomsday *cannot* become immune to blunt damage. He has been beaten to death multiple times, at least twice by Kryptonians. So yes, Hulk can kill Doomsday.
Don't know if you'll see this or if you've already learned the difference, but I wanted to explain the 2 different Broly's and Kale. Firstly, I'm gonna say canon in Dragon Ball is a bit iffy and weird, as even the creator sees everything made by the companies with the rights to his product as canon to their own timelines or dimensions, but for the sake of simplicity I'm gonna use canon the way fans tend to use it, even if it's not necessarily correct. So there's 4 Broly movies, the first 3 are connected and aren't canon. That's the Broly you know, the one who hates Goku. The 4th movie isn't connected to the other 3 and is canon. In it Broly has a completely different backstory, isn't evil, and has nothing against Goku. In fact in the 4th movie he didn't even know Goku existed until meeting him and being forced to fight him by his father and Frieza. He also is a good guy now. In a sense Z Broly, which is the version from the first 3 movies and was made during Dragon Ball Z, and Super Broly, which is the version from the 4th movie and was made during Dragon Ball Super, are 2 completely different characters with different motivations, different power levels, different personalities, but somewhat similar designs and the same name. As for Kale and why she's important, she's a canon character from Dragon Ball Super who was created before Super Broly and has a form that looks and functions almost exactly like Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form. She was basically supposed to be a female Broly, but she also wasn't a villain. Speaking of the forms, Z Broly's form is called Legendary Super Saiyan, as you already know, but Kale and Super Broly's forms are called Super Saiyan Berzerk. They look exactly the same, but it's been shown that you can control Berzerk, changing the look to be less bulky and to get your pupils back, but also to not be as reckless and have complete control similar to regular Super Saiyan. Something that was never shown with the original Legendary form. It's honestly all a bit of a confusing mess, but yeah.
“I don’t think Beerus was trying.” Yes and no while he never used 100% of his power in that fight Beerus If I remember right by the end was using up to 70% so still a decent amount Other comments feel free to correct my comment if I’m wrong it’s been a long while since I’ve seen super or Battle of gods
He said he used 70% percent to push Goku to go beyond what he thought was the super sayin gods limit. In reality he probably used 2% of his actual power.
Yah, although the ending is a bit of an anti-climax, this is still one of my favourite fights DB has done in recent years. And while Hulk's immortality is pretty broken (I actually guessed he would win because of it), their explanation for how Broly could get around it makes sense to me. Remember, immortality is not the same as invicibility; Being immortal means you won't die of old age, but it doesn't neccesarily mean you can't die from anything else. It's that concept coupled with the inconsistency in Hulk's strength (IE the times he's been forced into Banner and bested by far weaker beings), AND how there's no reliable way to gauge the limits of Super Saiyan Blue or Gogeta, that ultimately convinced me of Broly's win.
I agree with the results, but I like the other Hulk Death Battle better, Hulk vs Doomsday just sold the pure destruction with the animation and sound of the impacts, and the music in that won was more hyped than what they used for this one, don't get me wrong I like the song they made for this battle but it's more soothing than adrenaline pumping. Plus the "I'll kill you" line from Broly bothers me, he's in Berserker mode he shouldn't be able to form sentences, they should have just had him do Broly's rage scream or something
1:39 Good times 20:54 But did you ask 23:51 If it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, talks like a Duck, it might be a dragon in a costume pretending to be a Duck
OK so maybe they didn’t mention how long it took for Bruce to come back after his hypothalamus was destroyed, but they still mentioned that it was key to his transformation. Also they did kind of mention that he needed at least some of his body that can heal itself to come back to life.
Well th spirit bomb is mentioned to destroy all evil if you have even the smallest amount off good you'll live. Vegeta Buu Cell, (and tech broly) could live Goku's most powerful attack (spirit bomb)
Day 15 of asking you to react to Super Eyepatch Wolf's"No dad, wrestling is for grown ups!! I-WHY WON'T YOU LOOK AT ME-"trilogy. Also, starting in season 8, not only will I be giving reviews of the episodes along with constantly requesting you react to something, I'll also be counting down to my favorite episode of the whole show. Including this one, we have 11 more until we get there.
So I was like 12,000 when a sperm You See Duck You're Not Dealing with the average Super Deathbattel Duck Record 65W 45 L (IC 1 In A Roll) Highest Streak: 5 Me: 29 W 27 L I'm not happy
Decent explanation, but out of pure bias I still wanna call bs on it. I wanna see Broly fight another powerful character like the Sentry, who has powers capable of bending time and reality, or World Breaker Hulk who is rumored to be the strongest version of Earth 616's (main marvel universe) Hulk.
They literally just lied in this one. Immortal Hulk can regenerate from vaporization and disintegration. He can be revived from erasure too. They downplayed Hulk's speed and power. His power isn't finite, its literally infinite specifically higher dimensional at least 4D but you could go higher. 4D is more consistent. Hulk has immeasurable speed aka travel through time via sheer movement. Several of the panels they showed directly contradicted what they were saying. Like when they said Hulk is 120x universal...in same scan iys says its infinite. Or when they said Hulk was knocked back into Banner against Sentry....he literally says that he'd want to continue fighting anymore. Not to mention that World Breaker Hulk was holding back the entire time. P. S. Sentry has way better feats that they could've used for Hulk. Unfortunately they really wanted nitpick which versions of the character and what feats they were using. One of my BIGGEST issues is that these fights are supposed to be the strongest version of the characters....yet Hulk didn't get the smartest and strongest personality? Wtf.
Hulk can survive being totally erased from existence? I'm not a Marvel fan so that's interesting. Do you have a feat for it? I'd like to look into it more.
Hulk's not Immortal anymore anyways and there's no feat for him coming back from total erasure, YOU'RE lying. Also all of Hulk's "Universal" feats are just him shaking pocket dimensions being wanked up to 11 and taken out of context.
Little fun fact: Both characters steal each other's iconic lines. Broly says at the start, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry," which is Hulk's famous bit. Shortly after, Broly calls Hulk a monster, to which Hulk responds, "No...the Devil!" Which was an iconic line from the original Broly movie and was often associated with the character.
Probably my favorite parts of the fight tbh
Abridged is the only time I remember Broly saying that, I saw the three original movies and dont recall that.
Vegeta: "Oh my god, _he's so goddamned cool!"_
@@artistanthony1007 Did you watch it in Japanese?
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Incase you didn't
Speaking of Vegeta: "My son, the planet or me?" "Yes."
"Fucking smart ass"
@@shadowblade404 "Counselor Nappa! I require your treasure guidance once more"
@@SethHarth “stab the baby.”
@@johngrant8390 King Vegeta, "A-are you sure?"
@@nicholasmaddocks7545 Look, we have a meeting with Freeza in 1 hour. So either stab the baby or we’ll have to cancel your 6:00.
From what I have seen, most people agree they actually massively overhyped Hulk to make this seem close. Apparently that universe Hulk destroyed was fairly tiny, and he rarely actually reaches anywhere near universe destroying power. Meanwhile even the older and weaker Broly could destroy galaxies.
THANK. YOU.
All of Hulk's "Universal" feats are just Pocket Dimensions being shaken and NOT the actual Marvel Universe. Also Hulk LOST to Hyperion, he got punched out and reverted to Banner.
Huh
Jeez that’s. Hm. I thought the comics might’ve given an asspull to work with,that’s. Hm
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@oceandragoon3099 Bro, Broly has never destroyed a galaxy. Even Vegito Super sayan blue, who is stronger than him, can't do it and never has either. That's one. Two, a UNIVERSE is MUCH LARGER THAN A COUPLE OF GALAXIES. In other words, you contradicted yourself in your comment. You are literally agreeing with the other side. Three, Hulk has unlimited strength (which Broly does not), he has the most broken regeneration of his entire universe, he can regenerate from a subatomic level; his raw strength increases in exponential succession geometrically, fueled by his rage and the power source of One Bellow All, of which he is avatar; he has exerted forces equivalent to trillions of billions of thousands of tons, and he has endured blows with equivalent forces and not even flinched. His weakest version in base state, destroyed a meteor twice the size of the Earth with a single punch (on another occasion, one of approximately 25 times), withstood the power of billions of stars on himself, and overcame it with sheer brute force. He defeated all the gods of the Norse pantheon (some even more powerful than Thor). He joined a f*ck*ng PLANET (CONSIDERABLY LARGER THAN HIS OWN) FROM THE CORE, JOINING ITS TECTONIC PLATES, OF TWO COLOSSAL HALVES. It repelled the weight of a cosmic being that was attacking this dimension, again, by sheer force. He destroyed a Dark dimension Universe (which is much bigger than a Pocket universe, so small nothing); with one punch he made the whole Marvel Multiverse tremble, and all the existing spacetime lines resonate. Etc. etc., etc. If anything, Broly was that they pumped him up too much. This fight had to have been defined from the halfway point, if we were sticking to their respective comic book versions, if we were really serious about it.
@@Bleeperblopper497 On the other hand, Hyperius defeated the base Hulk and not even the base Hulk of his version or one of his more powerful versions; but the base Hulk of an intermediate version. Stop talking so much cr*p, please.
They actually did mention early on that Hulk's brain was important for his immortality.
That headbutt scene though...still awesome.
He did come back from that though, it just took longer.
Broly went from being a planet buster at best when he started the fight with vegeta and goku, to being over universal+ and reality busting.. all within a couple hours what took vegeta and goku so many years to accomplish.. if the fight went on Broly would win easily.
Jesus what a transition
@@theduckgoesmoo did u watch the original Broly movie my guy, Broly without super sayian was destroying universes instantly
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planet buster is underselling him greatly, the Saiyans from the Saiyan Saga were already Planet Busters. Base Broly is universal lol
base broly is low multiversal
5:27 Actually, and here's a scary fact here: Hulk didn't become the Worldbreaker by abandoning Banner. Rather, Hulk amd Banner, as the Green Scar, were one. As such, the Worldbreaker only came about because Hulk AND BANNER both felt such earth-shattering Rage, Despair and Hatred all at once, that it brought Hulk into Critical Mass.
And to give you an idea how strong Worldbreaker Hulk (or Hulk at Critical Mass) was: he created Gamma earthquakes that tore the island of Manhattan to pieces... by walking. Yes, simply him putting one foot in front of the other created huge shockwaves enough to turn ALL OF MANHATTAN into rubble. Which, yes, means that Worldbreaker Hulk is roughly on par or even greater than The Rumbling from Attack on Titan. Like no joke, Hulk is the size of a TICK compared to a Wall Titan and yet yielded equal or greater physical power to at least THREE of them.
By the way, if you are ever liquid enough in revenue, I highly recommend getting the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk omnibuses. The World War Hulk saga is bonafide perfection on inked paper; the closest thing Marvel has to a literary Epic.
Many had problems with Hulk's "immortality" and how Broly was able to surpass it, but there're two characters from Dragon Ball Z that although weaker than Broly were capable of the exact same immortality: Cell and Buu. Cell and Buu were capable of withstand incredible amounts of power and performed kamikaze attacks that left them almost destroyed, but if there's a single trace of them, they are capable of regenerating their bodies - Cell was able to survive his attack and his core survived which regenerated him to his Super Perfect Form, but in the end he was destroyed by Gohan; and Majin Buu survived every kind of ki based attack, including the destruction of a planet, only to be completely killed by Goku's Spirit Bomb.
If you consider these two examples, then the concept of Hulk's immortality shown here is basically the same. Still, the ending I admit I didn't like how non-explain they made.
Why mentioning DB feats of immortality and regeneration and comparing it to the Hulk? It doesn't make sense, not only because the universes are different (duh), but the situations are also kind of different, by their logic Hulk dying is fine I guess. But the problems come when you actually start to scale Hulk, like, I'm pretty sure the nerve/brain thing or whatever is not a thing anymore with Hulk, or even it's inconsistent with other Hulk previous feats, other problem would be how they scale both Hulk and Broly, since both characters are beyond infinite universal, top tier power scailers for both verses disagreed with the results and scailing, I think even some Death Battle writer thought their scailing was kinda bad
@@rainofkhandaq6678 Keep in mind that Broly has a multiplier worth of power it's an exponential increase. Also his base power is unknown because its his base power that keeps increasing with no limit. then just multiply that by 50 because like it or not Legendary Supersaiyan by every standard officially is still X50 because its just Super saiyan (they legit did away with the "legendary" part of the name because its a title not a form) They even mention this countless times in the manga and anime where Goku and Vegeta can turn into the Legendary Super Sayain way before broly was a thing and they clearly ret-conned calling Broly that in the new movie. All that matters is that the Base power is vastly more then the rest because thats where it matters.
In short his Base level is greater then SSG goku (which can't be calculated correctly because no one can sense it and there's no rules for it just feats) and Just multiply that by 50 when he goes ssj.
they ware regenerating a healing factor not immortallity and cell needed his core to survive wich was destryod
buu was reincarneted by the spirit bomb
none of those 2 hade the abillity to littrly revive after death
@@-_-murilo2865 cause they literally have the same logic with both healing factors. Closer to cell than buu.
@@adam-dn3hi Both of which are actually superior to Hulks immortality. They noted in the episode that Hulk requires some element of his physical form to regenerate from, and that the most impressive version, the Maestro regenerating from a skeleton, took years of passively absorbing gamma radiation to achieve. Cell, by contrast, only requires a single cell to survive to regenerate almost instantly, and Buu doesn't even need that. As long as he has energy left, Buu can come back from being vaporized entirely.
Hulk doesn't become immune to what killed him. You're thinking of Doomsday.
Just so you know the new Broly dosen't have that ptsd of the word "Kakarot." Buts he's also just a much better character than the older version since he isn't a gaint baby.
Also you were a little mixed up with Hulks immortality. He dosen't come back forever immune to what killed him the last time (that's Doomsday), so you could just continue to rip his head off, but it wouldn't really matter because he would just come back.
Also they may not have directly said that Hulk might not have overpowered the one below all, but they did show you the exact image they used when he said he'd only be gone for about a minute.
I hate super Broly . Super Broly is basically Snow White . They should have used Z Broly . As a Broly fan . I am disappointed what they did to Broly . They ruined him .
@@Ken7shamrock if you think the old broly was batter somethings wrong
@@ShirouBrando I love z Broly by far . His the original and also I don’t like super Broly being kind, nice caring . I want him to be a sadistic, cold blooded emotionless, heartless , psychotic, rampaging killer . I wanted to see him kill his father . I wanted to see him laugh , maniacally. I wanted that ruthless aggression . Super Broly backstory was shit and there shouldn’t be any need for character development. He is what a true sayian is . A pissed off ticking time bomb that’s about to explode. He should have survived the planet destruction as a baby . Like a boss . His father , like in the original should have mind controlled him. And sooner or later that thing will stop working and he will look at his dad like you’re next and crushed him to death. But I got a emotional bitch that cares . I am pissed and if you think Snow White ,,, oh sorry I mean super emotional Broly is better then yeah something is wrong .
@@Ken7shamrock who hurt you
@@ILikeCHEEZ9 the new super movie . One villain I wanted to be canon . But they screwed my favorite villain over and god I was so hyped for this movie . But it was a let down .
I love how they used each other’s lines
They basically traded iconic quotes at the start
"You won't like me when I'm angry" is an iconic Hulk quote
"I'm not a monster, I'm a devil" is the quote from the old Broly movie
But I'm pretty sure everyone already knows, so I just want to point out the obvious
Oh boy... Im so excited to see you watch season 8. Some of the best episodes of the entire show, along with some of the best music. Widely considered the most consistently strong seasons of the entire show, with some of the best backing tracks, animations and voice acting, with only one episodes that's kinda been considered a dud... and even then it wasn't even that bad.
This episodes song was called "Ikari", which translates to "Rage" in Japanese... fitting. Id actually really enjoy seeing you react to the tracks of Death Battle, and even some of Brandon Yates' commissions. He does much of the music for the show and does fan commissions, all of which are insane, my favorite being "Will of the Drill", a track for an MU I SERIOUSLY hope happens on the show: Kyle Rayner vs Simon the Digger.
The theme is Ikari which means rage, fitting for two berserkers in the most destructive Death Battle…literally. They destroyed reality 2 dozen times over threw head butting each other!
Duck to be honest hulk healing isn't that impressive compared to see characters in the DBZ franchise the likes of perfect cell and Majin Buu could regenerate from the cellular level all you have too do took kill them is to leave nothing left to regenerate from
That’s true I guess cell did come back from literally nothing
Trust me when I say this, season 8 is a top tier season! It's also the season that made me come back after years of not watching this show
Yeah. The only problem is they are still pretty dogshit at properly scaling bleach characters (like bruh ichigo or aizen solo the naruto verse so how tf is naruto beating ichigo and Madara beating aizen?)
@@tobyspeight193 wow look i found a bleach fanboy
@@tobyspeight193 Sorry bro, but Madara destroys Aizen even with his Doomsday Like adaptation.
@@linkfan6555 bro just watch seththeprogrammers Madara vs aizen.. the amount of cap in that statement is astounding. The only other thing I’m gonna say is dbs explanation of truth seeking orbs is complete bs.
1. ‘Aizen has no way to do the same irreversible damage to Madara’
DB Legit talks like the truth seeking orbs destroying souls is something aizen can’t do, when legit basically every bleach character can attack the soul directly..
2. They say aizen can’t regen from the truth seeking orbs even though it only halted regen from the edo tenseis since it nullifies ninjutsu.. edo tensei is a NINJUTSU
@@tobyspeight193 Seth isn’t the end all be all for versus debates, just like Death Battle isn’t.
This felt pretty 1 sided in my opinion. I mean Z Broly was strong enough to casually wipe out galaxies and Super Broly, even just in base form, is one an entire different level. There was just no way Hulk was gonna close the power difference before getting overwhelmed himself.
Still this fight is awesome and still another favourite of mine
- Just clarification but new Broly doesn't hate Goku. In fact at the end of the movie they're pretty much buddies. With Goku even letting him call him by his Saiyan name
My biggest gripe is that there's no weight behind the attacks in this fight, though the animations are fantastic.
Yeah that was my big thing too. The visuals and all looked great but the punches felt off and the sound design for them didn’t help either
Duck: This ends the universe, right?
Me: Well yes, but actually no.
I like how that is the meme, but the meme itself is a misquote.
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The world’s a beautiful place sometimes
They destroyed it so thoroughly, that they looped right back to the beginning.
@@animegx45 made in heaven, bro.
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It's called "Ikari" by Therewolf Media.
They make some of DB's Tracks.
so the thing about hulk having a healing advantage over broly, the DBZ Ki can heal people, to an extent, but the healing factor still has limits against immense power. the healing factor almost being unlimited shaped another battle result, Wolverine vs Raiden (X-men vs Metal Gear Rising). while some stunts Wolverine has shown in comic history are nothing short of broken, the context showed the true limits.
I love the look of Hulk in this Death Battle. It's like the redesign for Puss In Boots: The Last Wish
They never said anything about Hulk's healing factor being like Doomsday's, because it isn't. Hulk's simply heals whatever wound killed him, that's not the same as becoming immune to it. The importance of the hypothalamus to Hulk's healing factor was not only emphasized greatly in the analysis of this episode, it was one of the biggest parts of Hulk's last episode too. So vaporizing Hulk would absolutely put him down, like they said. And like they also said, that's what happens at the end of almost all Dragon Ball fights anyway.
They also never said anything about Hulk scaling to The One Below All, just that he thunderclapped him away.
There has been discussion about this fight, but only because a lot of people had Hulk as way stronger than he was shown here, but never with very good arguments as to why. This result is for all intents and purposes correct still, despite me rooting hard for Hulk
I also call bullshit on all of Hulks "Universal" feats which are all just wanked Dimensional feats and that Hulk has been put down by weaker foes too, so all of his high-balled feats not consistent enough to be true
Yah, I've seen a few of those debunk videos and a lot of their points don't add up. The one I'll link below tries to argue that the Marvel universe is infinite in scale, thereby Hulk's universe mulitiplier would be far larger than Broly's. If you actually read the displayed scans though, the wording isn't super specific to the actual size of the universe (Ex. "The edge of the universe is BLANK light years away"), and mostly illustrates the surroundings of certain characters as "infiite voids". Put more simply, they use the term "infinite void" as a description more than an exact measurement, and when something like that is vaguely defined, it's always better to go with the conservative estimate like the 1 trillion light year stat DB later discussed.
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The new Dragonball Super Broly and the old Dragonball Z Broly are entirely different characters in terms of backstory, personality and lore.
The new Broly's backstory essentially involves King Vegeta deeming him too much of a danger for his own bloodline, as Baby Broly was shaping up to be many times more powerful than King Vegeta's son (a.k.a. Vegeta himself). Therefore, after ordering Broly's execution via stranding Broly on a hostile planet. Broly's Father Paragus would join him on that planet later on (basically just in time to avoid being caught up in Planet Vegeta getting Frieza'd), and in blind hatred, Paragus effectivley tried to raise Broly as a killing machine so that they may one day get their revenge on King Vegeta. In his time on the planet however, Broly basically grew up without any sort of social interaction, developing anger issues due to his father's abuse, but an otherwise innocent personality due to his lack of interaction. Basically, the new Broly has no problem with Goku/Kakarot, and has no real trigger words, instead Paragus effectivley uses a shock collar on Broly instead, and that is what triggers his rage. In essence, Broly is the protagonist of the new Broly movie, instead of the villain of the story, and they pretty much fixed every problem that people had with old Broly if you ask me.
They said the best fighter is never anger.
Hulk and Broly:I missed the part that not my problems.
"Anger causes mistakes. Making me angry was *your* mistake."
Sadly they speak of the "posible potential" of Broly but they didn't talk about "The Breaker of Worlds" (Breaker- Apart), the "final" form of The Hulk possesed by The One Below All...
The problem with that is that it's not really Hulk anymore as he's not in control over the body or the power within it, The One Below All is. It's not an accurate scale of what Hulk is capable of on his own. As opposed to what we've outright seen from characters Broly scales higher than.
Alright, Season 8 consists of 16 episodes, mostly based on frequently-requested matchups.
Here's the order:
Yoda vs. King Mickey
Shadow vs. Ryuko Matoi
Lex Luthor vs. Doctor Doom
Heihachi Mishima vs. Geese Howard
Blake Belladonna vs. Mikasa Ackerman
Iron Fist vs. Po
Steven Universe vs. Star Butterfly
Link vs. Cloud (2021)
Batman vs. Iron Man
Goku Black vs. Reverse Flash
Macho Man vs. Kool-Aid Man
DIO vs. Alucard
Akuma vs. Shao Kahn
Korra vs. Storm
Madara Uchiha vs. Sosuke Aizen
Saitama vs. Popeye
To answer: broly one shots, this isn’t even close.
Also: in the comics the immortality of the devil hulk is from the green door, his healing itself is natural ability of hulk, though you can knock him out and revert him from damage, or by damage to the brain. Wolverine accomplishes this several times by stabbing him in the head
15:30 That's Hulk's line
17:00 That's (OG) Brolly's line
Not like Doomsday. Hulk regenerates from whatever killed him, however it killed him.
That is: if he is melted - his body doesn’t just pop out of a green puddle of purple pantsed hulk goo. No. His body reconstitutes itself out of said puddle.
So he needs access to all of his bits to regenerate. Which is why when he had* once been cut into several pieces, each part was stored in a separate jar to keep his healing factor from allowing them to come together and heal. Like you saw his head do in the Death Battle.
Doomsday dies of a peanut allergy. Comes back literally unable to die from a peanut allergy ever again.
….
See? Different.
Edited Because: I can’t spell for nuts.
Loved the music used for the Death Battle
like Wiz said in the analysis, in the movie appropriately called Dragon ball super Broly, Broly was so strong, Goku and Vegeta had to go somewhere else in order to have enough time to fuse with each other and create the mighty Gogeta.
I think you got Hulk’s kind of regeneration and death proofing confused with Doomsday. Who Hulk also lost to in Death Battle.
Basically, Broly’s power could overpower God Goku/Vegeta (red hair) and his super saiyan got to Blue level and higher raising as time went on. In comparison to Broly being around Ssj2 in his original movie.
I thought you skipped the Beerus battle for spoiler reasons! (Also I brought up both Beerus and Hulk because I knew this fight was going to happen in my last MHA comment.) No Beerus was NOT trying when he fought Goku. They even compared Beerus TO Broly IN that 2018 Broly movie. Except…no rage adrenaline situation in Beerus’ way to get to such a level. +divine ki. +hakai. And not including any UI trigger.
He skipped Beerus' DB because the video was taken down by Toei and he doesn't want to upset them after what happened to Totally Not Mark and his OG channel
Actually Broly’s new base in the canon story is on par with ssj Goku and Vegeta, his Ikari form was stated to be on par with ssjb, which is proved in their fight, then Broly goes ssj on top of Ikari (that’s why his ssj form was so strong, Broly’s ssj form is nothing special) he got a 50x boost, making him 50x that of blue Goku and Vegeta, that’s why he was owning their ass, and then he proceeded to completely merge ssj with Ikari to get that green haired form/full power ssj, so you see in the canon story, Broly doesn’t possess Lssj but is still way way way stronger than his Z counter part
A lot of episodes in season 8 are missing in your playlist for some reason.
Heihachi vs Geese, Shadow vs Ryuko, Dr Doom vs Lex Luthor….
Yeah, those are concerning Death Battles that are left out. However, the 1 Death Battle he should be skipping is Blake Vs. Mikasa for Attack on Titan Spoilers.
@@fireball1249 Blake VS Mikasa is the worst of the season anyway
Don’t worry!
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Oh poor duck. They weren’t fighting.
Also the song is ikari by Brandon Yates and there wolf media.
Additional fun fact: The animation where Hulk puts his head back on is inspired by a similar scene in That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime. Id tell you more but thats spoilers for the first season. Its a good show, you should check it out.
7:05 just to add a little caveat on the whole thing, it turn out that the one below all(devil) is The one above all (god) hulk so he’s essentially a god and a devil
I remember reading something from the old Hulk comics where one guy who im sure isnt as strong as Brolly punched the Hulk SO HARD that he turned back into Bruce Banner....with a single Punch......and that mans name is Blackbolt King of the inhumans.....iv only seen a few of the pages but Blackbolt just pops Hulk in the face who then falls over says something alone the lines of "your strong" and then passes out and turns back into banner there are more recent comics where versions of hulk have tanked Blackbolts strongest blows though....and by blows I dont mean his punches because Blackbolts physical strength is nothing compared to his quasi sonic voice which can destroy planets the man cant even whisper cause the shockwave is like a small nuclear blast
Hyperion punched out the Hulk tho
@@Bleeperblopper497 did he do it with a single attack then earn the hulks respect?
The song for the fight is called Ikari (Which is Japanese for Anger, Wrath, Fury, etc)
3:100 pretty much The "monster inside of him" was another personality that he developed to deal with his abusive father it protected him and shielded him from the abuse that side of him was like a wild animal it only knew pain and anger and then it got given a physical body that had super strength
That’s what I figured happened
that hulk squared looks very powerful than the world-breaker or green scar.
That's the thing about DBZ/DBS characters. The powerscaling in the Dragonball universe is downright absurd, to the point that there are very few beings from other universes that could even hope to compete. For instance, Nappa, one of the very first (and ultimately weakest) villains in DBZ with a power level of about 8,000 would very likely still be far beyond literally any character from the Naruto universe, including Madara. Even in early DBZ, most major characters were at least planet-buster level. And by the time of the Tournament of Power in Super, there were a ton of galaxy and universe buster level characters.
Nappa's power level is either 4,000 or 5,500. Not 8,000.
Shigaraki's dad is an absolute saint in comparison to a lot of other fictional dads like Brian Banner out there
Oh god is he really that bad?
@@theduckgoesmoo Seeing as you watched Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, let me remind you that Shou Tucker exists.
But yeah, you're better off not knowing what other fictional dads like Brian Banner did. Especially Craster (from A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones).
Kinda wanted Broly to fight Asura from Asura's Wrath. The FIRST BOSS of that game is larger than the planet.
Fun fact: before they start explaining the backstories you can see what the animation will look like for the fight on the screen behind them
I'm excited to see your reaction to s8. It has some of the best(and also worst) match-ups in DB history.
Hmm worst?
@@theduckgoesmoo Maybe "worst" isn't the right word. Perhaps a better way to say is "disappointing match-ups." The mid-season fight before their summer break was pretty controversial.
Hulk's actually only 7' tall, but he's just so massive that it's easy to think he's bigger...
The song in the battle is called ikari
for how strong the hulk is it's really comical just how one sided this actually was. modern day dragon ball is absolutely ridiculous
7:00 Bit of Marvel lore: Just as there is a counterforce for every force, a shadow for every light, and a reaction for every action, there is the One Below All. The One Below is the dark twin of the Marvel multiverse's top god, the One Above All. While there have been many hell lords and devils claiming to be the one true embodiment of evil, the One Below All may be the true source of all evil, or at least the closest of any evil entity. Despite being like the One Above All in that it's metaphysical, transcending the very Multiverse, being present everywhere, including right there in your room hating you, it's been forbidden from interacting with the Multiverse or any one soul. Hence the name, it's not the One Above All's second in command, after all, it's the one BELOW every living being.
22:25 DUMMI was describing The Mask, in case you were wondeirng.
You’ve finally finished Season 7. And now for Season 8. Like before I'm going to give you a list of all the episodes of Season 8. Yoda VS King Mickey, Shadow VS Ryūko, Lex Luthor VS Doctor Doom, Heihachi Mishima VS Geese Howard, Blake Belladona VS Mikasa Ackerman, Iron Fist VS Po, Steven Universe VS Star Butterfly, Link VS Cloud (2021), Batman VS Iron Man, Goku Black VS Reverse-Flash, Macho Man VS Kool-Aid Man, DIO VS Alucard, Akuma VS Shao Kahn, Korra VS Storm, Madara VS Aizen, and Saitama VS Popeye.
Super broly was honestly in a league of his own compared to hulk, the man caught up to galaxy/universal busters in the span of a few hours
I don't read any Hulk comics, but when I first saw this Death Battle episode, I HATED the whole "Hulk's gamma radiation is derived from Hell" thing.
Your playlist is missing a few fights from Season 8. After Yoda and Mickey, there should be Shadow vs Ryuko.
They didnt even touch on the scariest variant of hulk, the one that can never be let out, The Smiling Hulk
This fight is accompanied by the track "Ikari" literally meaning "Angry" I'm Japanese.
Aside from the name, it doesn’t sound like it fits with a Rage-themed battle.
@@HB-fq9nn More like it fits with the after affects of being angry
Yeah you were correct. Hulk would most likely beat Broly
You're wrong cause all of Hulk's "Universal" feats are just him shaking Pocket Dimensions and he's been defeated by lesser foes before, so his Universe shaking is not consistent enough.
@@Bleeperblopper497 Broly has also been beaten by lesser foes. Who has beaten them isn’t a good way to measure their strength because different comics are different universes
@@theamazingg3773 Which lesser opponents lol?
@@theamazingg3773 Gogeta Blue is NOT a lesser foe, Hulk got punched out by Hyperion and reverted to Banner, which happened in the MAIN universe, NOT an alternate one. Again, Hulk has never shook the actual Marvel universe, Nightcrawler's realm was just a pocket universe with few a land masses in it, same for any other feat he did that gets wanked.
@@shaghilathar3588 He made it up or is downplaying Broly by comparing him to his weaker, non-canon counterpart from the DBZ movies
Yes fluffy duck. This ends the universe. Their anger is literal power.
Honestly the Wrath form is one of the best things to come out of the movie, I have a thing for highly aggressive forms such as Darkspine Sonic and Legend Dark Spyro.
In this fight it makes since for them to start the fight small and end with a lot of power sonce their power getting higher as they get madder
While the punching sound effects can be better for the fight, Broly should be speaking gibberish at best after transforming into Super Saiyan, I don't agree with them saying Z Broly and Super Broly are the same character (one's a gentle giant and the other is a genocidal maniac), and I don't agree with the verdict, this is still a good episode.
Ikari (the fight song) is a banger (even though it sounds more like the Broly song than Hulk vs Broly), I love them using there some of their most well known phrases against one another (Hulk's don't get me angry line and Broly's devil line), the effects are awesome, and the beginning and ending are some of my favorites in the whole show.
All I'm gonna say for next season is that it's gonna be a roller-coaster.
0:40 - Why dont you just watch One Piece without a Reaction? - Tjats also an Option
Because reacting to it would make people happy
Although I don't agree with Goku being that much stronger than Hulk in base, Broly was still just way stronger than Hulk, it was a wash.
And with that you are now only one season behind and with your current rate, I can estimate you'll be all caught up before the end of summer
So, before the Mid Season Finale.
did he miss the 1 with the coolaid man or did i miss it
That in the next Season he's Reacting to.
@@fireball1249 really i thought it was before broly and hulk my bad
this would be either 1st or second fight OF BROLLY'S LIFE...... WOW.....
Just realized that Broly is technically a Saiyan Mutant, like Frieza is to his race.
I just wanna point out they low balled Broly. True goku's base in Super is equal to God(he does end up getting stronger through training overtime but no exact numbers) however after he fought Hit in the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc he went from barely matching Hit with a x10 multiplier stacked on top of Blue(honestly he would've lost due to the strain alone) to later tying with hit in just Blue. In short he got AT LEAST 10 times as strong after that fight so it would be only fair to assume Broly's strength would be 10 times the number they gave, thus widening the gap even more.
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...My dude, Tomura had it well off compared to most people on this show.
When this deathbattle was shown I immediately thought broly would win because I thought who would win hulk or hulk with long ranged attacks
I loved this fights song Ikari
In the new anounced film you see broly, goku and vegeta training at whis and beerus
Death Battle fucks up a lot of things, they also give a lot of weird out of context feats that sometimes sound greater than what they really were. They fused and then wanked a BUNCH of different versions of the Hulk and put him so far beyond what he could actualy accomplish to make this "seem" a reasonable fight in the beggining, even though this monstrous amalgam wouldn't even be on the level of SSJ God Goku in Battle of Gods. A Goku that is literally hundreds of times weaker than Goku at the end of Super.
Yeah, that season had a couple of egregious examples of them naming a feat and not giving the context for it. The Hulk's defeating the One Below All feat in this one, and Red Hood breaking Supergirl's grip in Winter Soldier vs Red Hood. They even said, "Don't take Jason breaking Supergirl's grip out of context." Dude, you just told us about this feat out of context! Thankfully, they moved away from cheap stuff like out of context feats in the next season.
Yeah, but unlike with the Jason fight they straight up showed you the panel that said Hulk only did that to by them time. So if you read it then you were fine.
I talked about Hulk, I'll keep Broly brief.
Old Broly (aka Legendary Super Sayian Broly) isn't the same as DBS Broly.
Old Broly isn't canon.
Kale isn't a "Legendary Super Sayian" her Super Sayian form is completely different. Its called **Super Sayian Berserker**.
DBS Broly isn't a Legendary Super Sayian whatsoever, he has a completely different story it's like they combined the two characters as if they were the same.
DBS Broly doesn't have to constantly leak out energy.
**All Sayians gets stronger as they fight and are strengthen by anger and rage. Its not unique to Broly. **
The whole Super Sayian A type shit was from a random V-Jump (jmost popular anime magazine) which isn't even written or approved Toriyama or anyone relevant. **Side note: They also used Super Exciting Guide which is also not the best guide to use. Daizenshuu is a guide written by Toriyama idk why they don't use it.**
They downplayed the characters because they downplayed the Dragon Ball cosmology. DB universes aren't finite in size. So trying to give it a linear number to compare to outs doesn't make sense.
Lastly DBS Broly's final gorm is called Full Power Super Sayian. Also Gogeta Blue didn't try until the very end where he about to kill him before he got saved. Goku and Vegeta also didn't go all out. No Kaioken, no Ultra Instinct, no SSB Evolution. It was really out of character to leave and fuse the way they did.
I wonder how the Doomsday death battle would've gone if Hulk had his immortality back when that fight happened?
Odds are Hulk would still end up losing. It'd be a bit closer sure, but ultimately Hulk would still end up getting his ass plastered.
Either fight would never end or hulk would run off and find some way to win with one of his genius personalities.
Hulk would still lose. He doesn't have anything to put Doomsday down and eventually wouldn't be able to keep up
@@connorwood9211 Except he does have something to put Doomsday down.
What Death Battle not only didn't mention, but even tried to pretend wasn't true at all, was that Doomsday *cannot* become immune to blunt damage.
He has been beaten to death multiple times, at least twice by Kryptonians.
So yes, Hulk can kill Doomsday.
Don't know if you'll see this or if you've already learned the difference, but I wanted to explain the 2 different Broly's and Kale.
Firstly, I'm gonna say canon in Dragon Ball is a bit iffy and weird, as even the creator sees everything made by the companies with the rights to his product as canon to their own timelines or dimensions, but for the sake of simplicity I'm gonna use canon the way fans tend to use it, even if it's not necessarily correct.
So there's 4 Broly movies, the first 3 are connected and aren't canon. That's the Broly you know, the one who hates Goku. The 4th movie isn't connected to the other 3 and is canon. In it Broly has a completely different backstory, isn't evil, and has nothing against Goku. In fact in the 4th movie he didn't even know Goku existed until meeting him and being forced to fight him by his father and Frieza. He also is a good guy now.
In a sense Z Broly, which is the version from the first 3 movies and was made during Dragon Ball Z, and Super Broly, which is the version from the 4th movie and was made during Dragon Ball Super, are 2 completely different characters with different motivations, different power levels, different personalities, but somewhat similar designs and the same name.
As for Kale and why she's important, she's a canon character from Dragon Ball Super who was created before Super Broly and has a form that looks and functions almost exactly like Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form. She was basically supposed to be a female Broly, but she also wasn't a villain.
Speaking of the forms, Z Broly's form is called Legendary Super Saiyan, as you already know, but Kale and Super Broly's forms are called Super Saiyan Berzerk. They look exactly the same, but it's been shown that you can control Berzerk, changing the look to be less bulky and to get your pupils back, but also to not be as reckless and have complete control similar to regular Super Saiyan. Something that was never shown with the original Legendary form.
It's honestly all a bit of a confusing mess, but yeah.
“I don’t think Beerus was trying.”
Yes and no
while he never used 100% of his power in that fight
Beerus If I remember right by the end was using up to 70% so still a decent amount
Other comments feel free to correct my comment if I’m wrong it’s been a long while since I’ve seen super or Battle of gods
He said he used 70% percent to push Goku to go beyond what he thought was the super sayin gods limit. In reality he probably used 2% of his actual power.
@@sethgibson5148 ok thanks for that it’s been ages since I actually seen that part so I wasn’t really sure
Also fun fact when broly riped off hulks head it's actually a call back to doomsday's fight with hulk
King Vegeta, "My son, the planet, or me?"
Lol
You should check out alucard vs dio
He'll be skipping that one.
Tomura's dad was a nice guy. He only slapped him once and that was out of anger.
Broly can't paralyze people. When he paralyzed Goku it was by reflecting his God-Bind technique back on him.
But otherwise it seems solid.
Bet you wasn't ready for this fight broomstick is funny but that's gamma satin magic
Yah, although the ending is a bit of an anti-climax, this is still one of my favourite fights DB has done in recent years. And while Hulk's immortality is pretty broken (I actually guessed he would win because of it), their explanation for how Broly could get around it makes sense to me. Remember, immortality is not the same as invicibility; Being immortal means you won't die of old age, but it doesn't neccesarily mean you can't die from anything else. It's that concept coupled with the inconsistency in Hulk's strength (IE the times he's been forced into Banner and bested by far weaker beings), AND how there's no reliable way to gauge the limits of Super Saiyan Blue or Gogeta, that ultimately convinced me of Broly's win.
Also when the Immortal Hulk comic ended, he lost his Immortality
To those first 5 lines,so did i lol. I’m just terribly used to the comics characters being busted as good lord
Broly is the equivalent of a Limon Hot Cheeto if it was actually green
I agree with the results, but I like the other Hulk Death Battle better, Hulk vs Doomsday just sold the pure destruction with the animation and sound of the impacts, and the music in that won was more hyped than what they used for this one, don't get me wrong I like the song they made for this battle but it's more soothing than adrenaline pumping. Plus the "I'll kill you" line from Broly bothers me, he's in Berserker mode he shouldn't be able to form sentences, they should have just had him do Broly's rage scream or something
1:39 Good times
20:54 But did you ask
23:51 If it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, talks like a Duck, it might be a dragon in a costume pretending to be a Duck
You never know
OK so maybe they didn’t mention how long it took for Bruce to come back after his hypothalamus was destroyed, but they still mentioned that it was key to his transformation. Also they did kind of mention that he needed at least some of his body that can heal itself to come back to life.
This would, at max, be the second fight of Brolly's life. As a DB fan, I was shocked by this....now I need to reconsider Brolly entirely...
Well th spirit bomb is mentioned to destroy all evil if you have even the smallest amount off good you'll live. Vegeta Buu Cell, (and tech broly) could live Goku's most powerful attack (spirit bomb)
Day 15 of asking you to react to Super Eyepatch Wolf's"No dad, wrestling is for grown ups!! I-WHY WON'T YOU LOOK AT ME-"trilogy.
Also, starting in season 8, not only will I be giving reviews of the episodes along with constantly requesting you react to something, I'll also be counting down to my favorite episode of the whole show. Including this one, we have 11 more until we get there.
also are you going to react to the ones you skipped because of spoilers once you are caught up with the actual story that way you wont get spoiled
That’s the plan
The sound design in this fight is garbage. How is Godzilla hitting his tail against the ground more impactful than a planet blowing up?
Season 8 is so good!
If SSJ3 is 400 times stronger than base form, than the modern day forms have multipliers in the thousands. Incalculable basically.
I don't know is good or bad
If he dies he comes back immume...
No, thats not hulk, thats doomsday
I mean majin buu and cell had superior regeneration. So saiyans can deal with that
So I was like 12,000 when a sperm
You See Duck You're Not Dealing with the average Super Deathbattel
Duck Record
65W 45 L (IC 1 In A Roll) Highest Streak: 5
Me: 29 W 27 L I'm not happy
Decent explanation, but out of pure bias I still wanna call bs on it.
I wanna see Broly fight another powerful character like the Sentry, who has powers capable of bending time and reality, or World Breaker Hulk who is rumored to be the strongest version of Earth 616's (main marvel universe) Hulk.
They literally just lied in this one. Immortal Hulk can regenerate from vaporization and disintegration. He can be revived from erasure too.
They downplayed Hulk's speed and power. His power isn't finite, its literally infinite specifically higher dimensional at least 4D but you could go higher. 4D is more consistent.
Hulk has immeasurable speed aka travel through time via sheer movement.
Several of the panels they showed directly contradicted what they were saying. Like when they said Hulk is 120x universal...in same scan iys says its infinite.
Or when they said Hulk was knocked back into Banner against Sentry....he literally says that he'd want to continue fighting anymore. Not to mention that World Breaker Hulk was holding back the entire time.
P. S. Sentry has way better feats that they could've used for Hulk. Unfortunately they really wanted nitpick which versions of the character and what feats they were using.
One of my BIGGEST issues is that these fights are supposed to be the strongest version of the characters....yet Hulk didn't get the smartest and strongest personality? Wtf.
Hulk can survive being totally erased from existence? I'm not a Marvel fan so that's interesting. Do you have a feat for it? I'd like to look into it more.
Hulk's not Immortal anymore anyways and there's no feat for him coming back from total erasure, YOU'RE lying. Also all of Hulk's "Universal" feats are just him shaking pocket dimensions being wanked up to 11 and taken out of context.
Dragonball universe is also infinite
Can’t wait for next season for Boomstick… 😁