Have you ever driven a car? How did you get to your climbing gym? The technique is what matters, this video shows you exactly what you need to know. Just grab a rope rope and do it, that's the best way to learn.
@@marknadolinski5450 The problem is that the video switches points of view halfway through, at 0:42. Worse, in the process, it skips ahead a little bit as well. Either of these things would make it hard to follow the knot-tying process. Both of them together make it _especially_ difficult. If the video would just stick to one POV or the other and follow it through without any jump cuts, everything would be fine.
I'm an idiot and I found that easy enough follow. I'm apprentice arbouist and the slowest to learn out my whole company 60. I can laugh at myself I am slow learner but still found video easy follow
@@zanecrofts7085 took me 3 tries because the video is so unclear as to which side of what is going specifically into what part of the knot after he puts one side thru his belt loops or whatever
The ropes are durable and just like the ones at the gym. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTFxba6lNeHrZaHoY_LXe6ZzmMfaipnwu Caution: I bought the 50 feet ropes and they are long and heavy so make sure you have the space (I do have the space). If I was to do it again I would probably get a shorter version as 50 feet (25 feet each side) is a little long.
I wish you'd just kept the damn camera angle looking over his shoulder, as soon as you swicth to the front everything is bak to front as the viewer is seeing it
I just tied my first figure eight from watching this video- AND reading my John Long book diagram, AND watching a few other videos. I am a slow learner and I did get nice and frustrated but I FIGURED it out hahahahaha ok downvote me.
You should never make a figure 8 using this method. This is only used when you don't have a carabiner and the figure 8 is acting as a carabiner. There are way easier ways to make a figure 8 in less than 4 secs.
This is how I was taught, some people use a bowline, but there seems to be some issues with that unless you really know what you are doing. Figure 8 seems to be straight forward practically fool proof, I would also add a back up knot for further piece of mind. New REI is very welcome here in San Luis Obispo, do it up right!
Totally agree that figure 8 is more foolproof than the bowline. The figure 8 does not require a safety knot, but there's nothing wrong with adding one.
*Верно* завязанный проводник-"восьмёрка" _(фламандская петля)_ при нагружении не станет скрюченной инвалидкой, а после снятия нагрузки *легко* развяжется - потому что её хвостик получит петельку для вщёлкивания карабина. A properly tied guide-"eight" _(Flemish loop)_ will not become a twisted invalid when loaded, and after removing the load, it will easily untie - because its tail will receive a loop for snapping the carbine.
So is the figure 8 follow through the same as a figure 8 on a bight, structurally? I know the applications are different as you need to tie the follow through if you are going around a fixed point
First Last, *ЖИЗНЕННО более важно* не то, каким способом завязать СТОПОРную восьмёрку (для ввязывания в петли беседки _стоя на обеих ногах_ *этот - наиболее техничен),* а то, *где* при ЛЮБОМ способе вязки спасИтельного проводника окажется *коренной* конец: - _под горлом петли_ в результате пробития ходового конца в _готовое очко_ - или - *на плечах её корпуса,* для чего ВЫходящий из СТОПОРа конец *следует принудительно сдвинуть вбок* - что и сделано на 0:35 секунде. Результаты обоих вариантов при *лавинной* затяжке узла после выпрямления и выборки эластичности верёвки *(наибольшая* нагрузка будет в *н.м.т.* _свободного_ полёта сорванца): в _душащем_ варианте коренной конец, *обжимая петлю,* выдавит ходовой, пройдя ВДВОЕ больший путь до упора в корпус; в *упорном* варианте особо ползти коренному концу некуда - кроме как заполняя пустоту, образующуюся при уменьшении диаметра растягивающейся верёвки. На *термоСТОЙКОЙ* верёвке это приведёт к тому, что "задушенную" петлю без пары(!) сваек хрен раздашь th-cam.com/video/PJkCaUUhqgs/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo , а на *капроновой* - оплётка и подлежащий слой могут *оплавиться до критичного сечения:* именно из-за этого и обрываются упёртые глупцы с древних "прусиков" сизалевых времён 20-го века - во сколько бы витков их ни скрутили. _Ни одна разрывная машина _*_этого_*_ не протестирует - только динамический стенд!_
You HAVE TO add a stopper knot ! PLEASE !! Not because the 8 on a bight may slip but because it helps preventing to forget to finish it.. It's been made mandatory in climbing competitions worldwide for that reason after anaysing an accident that "nearly" happened.
Way too fast and doesn’t show clearly what holes to go through? Also it’s upside down how am I supposed to figure this out. 0/10 wish you could still rate stars on youtube
I like that there is no pov videos teaching this, as if our perspective tieing our own knot is through the eyes of someone standing in front of us.
You need to have a rope in your hand. You can't learn how to make knot by watching. It all makes sense while practicing.
Have you ever driven a car? How did you get to your climbing gym? The technique is what matters, this video shows you exactly what you need to know. Just grab a rope rope and do it, that's the best way to learn.
@@marknadolinski5450 The problem is that the video switches points of view halfway through, at 0:42. Worse, in the process, it skips ahead a little bit as well.
Either of these things would make it hard to follow the knot-tying process. Both of them together make it _especially_ difficult.
If the video would just stick to one POV or the other and follow it through without any jump cuts, everything would be fine.
I'm an idiot and I found that easy enough follow. I'm apprentice arbouist and the slowest to learn out my whole company 60.
I can laugh at myself I am slow learner but still found video easy follow
@@zanecrofts7085 took me 3 tries because the video is so unclear as to which side of what is going specifically into what part of the knot after he puts one side thru his belt loops or whatever
This is the single most useful series for learning all the essential knots, clear instructions and quality footage.
it is knot
The ropes are durable and just like the ones at the gym. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTFxba6lNeHrZaHoY_LXe6ZzmMfaipnwu Caution: I bought the 50 feet ropes and they are long and heavy so make sure you have the space (I do have the space). If I was to do it again I would probably get a shorter version as 50 feet (25 feet each side) is a little long.
This is so much better that the instruction I got at my gym.
Nice ! Exactly what I was looking for
I wish you'd just kept the damn camera angle looking over his shoulder, as soon as you swicth to the front everything is bak to front as the viewer is seeing it
It is also perfect to join two different ropes or strings. And pretty!
I just tied my first figure eight from watching this video- AND reading my John Long book diagram, AND watching a few other videos. I am a slow learner and I did get nice and frustrated but I FIGURED it out hahahahaha ok downvote me.
You should never make a figure 8 using this method. This is only used when you don't have a carabiner and the figure 8 is acting as a carabiner. There are way easier ways to make a figure 8 in less than 4 secs.
This is how I was taught, some people use a bowline, but there seems to be some issues with that unless you really know what you are doing.
Figure 8 seems to be straight forward practically fool proof, I would also add a back up knot for further piece of mind.
New REI is very welcome here in San Luis Obispo, do it up right!
Totally agree that figure 8 is more foolproof than the bowline. The figure 8 does not require a safety knot, but there's nothing wrong with adding one.
What's the knot at the end to tie off the tail?
nice and simple learned to tie this knot in 10 minutes.
*Верно* завязанный проводник-"восьмёрка" _(фламандская петля)_ при нагружении не станет скрюченной инвалидкой, а после снятия нагрузки *легко* развяжется - потому что её хвостик получит петельку для вщёлкивания карабина.
A properly tied guide-"eight" _(Flemish loop)_ will not become a twisted invalid when loaded, and after removing the load, it will easily untie - because its tail will receive a loop for snapping the carbine.
Thank you very much ♥️
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Tied perfectly in the demo but crossed strands in the knot at the end ;)
Take my like and sub, easiest and clean way to learn this on youtube.
Nice video, thank you.
So is the figure 8 follow through the same as a figure 8 on a bight, structurally? I know the applications are different as you need to tie the follow through if you are going around a fixed point
Yes, structurally it’s the same
Does this work with green rope?
Держишь в левой руке. Если короткий конец находится справа, делаешь два оборота против часовой стрелки или три - по часовой. Если слева, то наоборот.
First Last,
*ЖИЗНЕННО более важно* не то, каким способом завязать СТОПОРную восьмёрку (для ввязывания в петли беседки _стоя на обеих ногах_ *этот - наиболее техничен),*
а то, *где* при ЛЮБОМ способе вязки спасИтельного проводника окажется *коренной* конец:
- _под горлом петли_ в результате пробития ходового конца в _готовое очко_ - или
- *на плечах её корпуса,* для чего ВЫходящий из СТОПОРа конец *следует принудительно сдвинуть вбок* -
что и сделано на 0:35 секунде.
Результаты обоих вариантов при *лавинной* затяжке узла после выпрямления и выборки эластичности верёвки *(наибольшая* нагрузка будет в *н.м.т.* _свободного_ полёта сорванца):
в _душащем_ варианте коренной конец, *обжимая петлю,* выдавит ходовой, пройдя ВДВОЕ больший путь до упора в корпус;
в *упорном* варианте особо ползти коренному концу некуда - кроме как заполняя пустоту, образующуюся при уменьшении диаметра растягивающейся верёвки.
На *термоСТОЙКОЙ* верёвке это приведёт к тому, что "задушенную" петлю без пары(!) сваек хрен раздашь
th-cam.com/video/PJkCaUUhqgs/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo ,
а на *капроновой* - оплётка и подлежащий слой могут *оплавиться до критичного сечения:* именно из-за этого и обрываются упёртые глупцы с древних "прусиков" сизалевых времён 20-го века - во сколько бы витков их ни скрутили.
_Ни одна разрывная машина _*_этого_*_ не протестирует - только динамический стенд!_
Very useful. Thanks.
Thanks my teacher is going to have a assessment on this
Glad we could help!
My dad taught this to me when I first started rock climbing but when we kind of stopped after he almost fell, I totally forgot how to tie the figure 8
Thanks for that info because I'm trying to write a book on how to survive in the wilderness and making knots is one of them
Survival 101: You don't
Wish they would do it a bit slower for beginners. In the beginning you can't telll which side if the rope is the free end before making a loop
James You can click the video settings under the video and slow it down.
Your voice is so relaxing
You HAVE TO add a stopper knot ! PLEASE !! Not because the 8 on a bight may slip but because it helps preventing to forget to finish it..
It's been made mandatory in climbing competitions worldwide for that reason after anaysing an accident that "nearly" happened.
why is every vid I watch on this so badly filmed
just found the same knot from the same channel but its POV and longer FYI
That second part could have been done better. Can't see where the rope is going lol
You just follow the first - backwards. “Trace” the rope
Hello
I’d rather use a bowline
why didn’t he tie it to his belay loop though?
Why are they not showing the step by step
If you haven't yet, take a look at the key moments linked in the description of the video for a breakdown.
Here are some more useful tips for your figure 8:
th-cam.com/video/QAr-uHd8h8o/w-d-xo.html
there is an easier way than that as well but that’s if you use a carabiner
Way tooo fast!
Lower the velocity in the 3 dots
I know ths is years old, but in case people are still seeing this video and feeling this way: Click the gear icon and reduce the playback speed.
Carrie Wilson detached PhD
MCT gang
Please explain the "stopper knot"
Seen at the end of the video, could save someone's life.
Otherwise great video, Thanks.
@@johnkomosa4089 Somewhat late but they do have a video on the stopper knot, I found it in the "climb" playlist
Parallel? That just unties it.
yee
get the defintion in the video jeez
Terrible camera angle.
Bad camera angle. Not helpful
Waaay too fast
Decent tutorial, the actual footage is useless though.
Non pov should be removed from the internet
next time dont cover the knot with your hands as youre trying to show THE VIEWER how to do it
Way too fast and doesn’t show clearly what holes to go through? Also it’s upside down how am I supposed to figure this out. 0/10 wish you could still rate stars on youtube
lol terrible camera work.
5 inches long last pregnant birth baby heading out
Way to fast
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