Ok Longwe said he managed to run out of the house during the attack. So at 2:14 00 Sergeant Mosia said one suspect came inside the house and the other one remained outside, so if that's the case Longwe must be brought in to answer because there is no way the outside suspect was not going to try block or attack him NEVER. Something doesn't add up
If that's what he said then this is scary because Mosia says he got to the house at 00:20 Where Brig Gen Ndlovi called him to come attend to a soccer star that was killed. So he came to collect evidence and take pictures.
Tefo already exposed the case & parties involved in an interview with SABC. Senzo was killed with Longwe's gun... 2 shots fired... 2 different shooters... My guess is Senzo disarmed Longwe & the gun fell... While Senzo was beating Longwe someone else shot him.
Our lawyer system is a disgrace. People question advocate Teffo of his English when asking questions keep in mind He still has his qualifications. Truth is people are so captured to think English should be fluent. Many other countries value their languages. Teach English abroad you will start having a openmind
They do not know what they are talking about. His English is the best. The only problem is that he has too much going on in his mind, emotions and feelings that he was struggling to express himself properly choosing the right words. Believe you me, I have watched all of his videos and got to understand Adv Teffo. 😀Bless him.
In another interview Teffo said he was first representing the Meyiwas, bt now is presenting the accused. He even said that there were 2 separate cases of meyiwas murder case.1. Inestigation under commisioner Sithole, where the intruder allegedly entered the house. 2. Investigation under minister Bheki Cele,where all 7 house occupants needed to be interrogated. My asumption is Teffo knows a lot about this case. He also revealed he worked as an investigator before he became an advocate. Watch this space!!!
It's going to be interesting how he present this approach when he presents his clients' cases in dispute of the allegations... If not presented by the state, it won't impact on the outcome of this case as the state is prosecuting only one case and not his two...he probably will allude to this when he cross examines the state investigator when he's testifying which should be immediately objected by the state if not presented in that witness evidence in chief or been agreed to when submitting heads of argument during pre-trial
Not true. Teffo been breaking rules of engagement as if he didn’t go to law school. He’s emotional as well. Emotional soldiers can get other soldiers killed in a war.
This guy was not an investigator by that time,uyasho ukuthi u Ndlovu was involved yena he is part of forensic aiycha khona asifundile but the questions must be answered by u Ndlovu,yebo usephume iphenshini but they can call him to be a state witness
This hat and a walking stick is not a sign of hard physical contact at all. There is no way that when they were rushing Senzo to hospital nothing could have been broken or fallen on the floor. This is pure lies.
I hope they will call the people that where in the house as witnesses to give an account of what happened as they are the people that were in the house.
Michelle... Exactly what I have been arguing. And it is clear that even a small thing as 45 VS 55 is wrong... He somehow reminds me of myself a few years ago... I went on a journey to be able to articulate properly. And by not being able to people did not take anything I said.. And reactively did so.
The sad thing is that the 5 are going to walk out scot-free and after 8 years,the case will be back to square one!They need to bring the real perpetrators to trial.It is embarrassing that the state can decide to go ahead with this nonsense even after having ascertained that the hat is for a woman and not any of the suspects.
Tefu knows something that the reason why he become a little bit emotional when he ask a question but the truth is why mr ndlovu never came to answer as a first person who arrive at the scene, kudlaliwe ngabafowethu mara niqine zinsizwa iqiniso lizovela ningayeki ukukhuleka🙏unkulunkulu uyabonelela.
@@charleyshaaz yhooo I saw that. And, now already he is point at Minister as involved in his arrest. I was hoping he will keep silent, and ventilate his thoughts on a bail application process.
Clearly the crime scene was tempered with. 1st of all the brigadier Ndlovu was not supposed to be allowed in the crime scene. Only the 1st man on the scene and experts are allowed to enter the crime scene. Victims were supposed to be taken out of the crime scene immediately n the place of safety was supposed to be arranged for them. The only person who was supposed to welcome experts into the crime scene is the first officer on the scene n not brigadier Ndlovu.
Seeing the way the policeman performed in cross examination, shows they are clearly not trained on what they should and shouldn't do. How do you have 19 years of experience but only take evidence from your superior (who probably don't do crime scenes everyday- a brigadier), then ignore everybody in the house. Then you close your file satisfied you have everything. It clear cops bungled a lot of things in this case. They charging people with possession of ammunition, but didn't note the number of bullets. Sies...Gah
The victim was not dead when they took him to hospital. Who does not know how long Ambulances and Police respond to calls. And, what is he trying to get from this witness. Why cant he ask forensic work......
He is smart. He's going to link what type of the gun killed Senzo and how many bullets where shot in the house on that night. There is a theory about cartridges which were found in the scene which will answer the question why Kelly khumalo called Mr Chico Twala before they called the police.
It is not normal that something as grave a shooting that leaves someone fatally injured,can go unreported for 4 hours!!After all,not everyone in that house took the now deceased to the hospital!Also,the element of danger was not there since the gunmen had fled.No one can say they were scared!
No one can say they were scared... Everyone was in fighting the intruder hence the walking still was also used.... I am trying to think of Senzo and Kelly trying to risk fighting an intruder instead of just giving their phones and let the gunman walk away.
Adv Teffo is questionable...he didn't put any dispute on the forensic evidence but catching on straws...Sgt Moshiane is not investigating officer but crime scene forensic investigator
Aibo this guy is just emotional for nothing. All this time cross examining the forensics guy without disputing his actual evidence this guy is here to testify on. I thought he was on to something with the timelines but lost me.
Forensic means you have to be more thorough than investigating officer...The cops did a poor job, the judge is biased that's y he allowed cops to run his court.
mosiane is talking nonsense, more than 5 people in the house don't make a single call to police ? in either way, how many calls did police receive after trying to save senzo, more than 5 calls? This Mosiana guy is a liar, it's just that Tefo can't follow up on unanswered questions; he rather skips.
It is going to be a very long trial at the rate adv Teffo is going. Some of these questions are irrelevant to this witness. As for the emotional judge yena haai 😒
The witness(forensic guy) is comprised and in simple cases where he should have answered 'I don't know'. He tries by all means to protect the eye witnesses by 'thinking' for them. If this was a 1st world country this guy would be behind bars.
Ay this case is a mystery and have a lot of contraversy. Why Ndlovu was at the crime scene. I don't understand why the bullet jacket stayed for so long? Was it dropped by someone from another scene to protect the right gun that was used
I dont think so. Any judge would 've called him out. He repeats questions, he's disrespectful, & some of the Qs he asks are irrelevant & ought to be asked to the investigating officer. The judge has a duty to intervene.
First thing there is a casualty anywhere in the World, the police and the ambulance are contacted. Even a 4 year old would know that. Does not have to take 5 hours. Who contacted Ndlovu anyway?
This adv tefu very stupid The complaint is given to local van to attend they will gather the first information of crime from victims and witnesses and take statements then call the forensic expect to take pictures of the scene and collect available available evidence. So in his arrival there was a senior officer who he had to speak to as for what happened only complaints van people could answer that🤣😂
You are the one who is very stupid..Teffo exposed this forensic guy that when he arrived after 2/5 hours on the scene. There were no local police but detective Ndlovu who is also not authorized to be on the scene since it was not his jurisdiction. But because you are an idiot. You didnt see that but just to say Adv Teffo is stupid. Tsek
@@michellemdebuka19 not really, Adv Teffo is making things hard for himself, he has this case in his hand nd yet he is asking questions on wrong witness, he is shooting his bullets out nd this will result to better strategy for Ndlovu.
.."with obliterated serial number, serial number is not even written I don't know maybe it's bcoz its obliterated,," this guy tenfold says a whole bunch of unnecessary stuff makes him sound stupid
The advocate for the accused's is purposefully repeating non relevant questions to delay proceedings. And the way he poses his questions are very hard to answer because they at times dont make sense
I took Adv Teffo lightly @ 1st bt he seems like he knows what he is doing #truth will previal of who killed Senzo Meyiwa - lol DNa being of lady puts more confusion 😅 , this case has long way to go
He is not, Adv Teffo is doing unnecessary things. Bringing irrelevant things on the tabler and repeating questions, court nd street debate are different.
I doubt he will win, law 101 u ask relevant questions to relevant people, he is using street tactics in a court of law, courts deals with things differently
@@zanobuhlemadolo4435 i would love for the truth to come out, i believe everyone wants to know the truth, but we cant be sensitive about court proceedings, it needs to be respected and complied with, in cant use emotions, dats why its not like parliament where where ppl can scream and shout and says whatever they feel. In court u dnt have to be aggressive or shout to make ur statements, its how u present ur facts, so if u are all over the show nd worst part go Back and forth with the Judge, u just making this hard for urself... After all, im waiting for both sides to present what they on the table, evidence shall lay it out for us. As for now, just watch and listen.
@@zinhlemqadi3404 😆😆I also had that question in mind until I realised that actually he expands the response to cover the question - however not consistent. You see that when the expert answers in one word. The approach makes sense in using the court's time efficiently.
Adv Teffo’s line of questioning is very very bad . And if it’s anything is to go by these gents will find themselves in more trouble than they already are . I mean what’s the relevance of asking of the forensic knows who owns the house. .
Shame the forensic investigator has to do his own objections.....where is the prosecutors who are supposed to be objecting? Asleep? And how is the judge allowing the dramatic comments (3 day course) - must be the SACBC cameras.....I feel so sorry for Senzo's family....this case is being treated as a reality....
I always listen to cases from different countries I must say SA still need to update their system, just Ntunthuko Shoba’s murder case, advocates were whispering how they will defend him🚮🚮always talking at the back, I don’t hear it from other countries!!
It is always like that in many countries. Remember ppl talk even when there is a funeral. It is normal for ppl to talk just that you will not see it if u are not in court or it is not televised. It is allowed for ppl to pass note and whispers to each other. Even the judge to whisper n pass not to court clerks and other relevant court personal
The forensic guy did not carry out any investigation.He just took what was said by Ndlovu Actually,his relevance in this case is negligible.He is not adding any value.
In his cross examination he identified gaps in the forensic investigation when and where he received the call and the 4 hour gap. And the fact that a Provincial Head was on the crime scene instead of the local police station attending to the complaint which makes him question if the crime scene wasn't tempered with.
Aggressive yet pointless... Ask relevant questions on wrong witness... Big mistake is now Ndlovu can be prepared for better as they know wat to expect, Adv Teffo has this case on his palm, but he is messing it up.
All I can say is that this advocate is putting me to sleep and his questions are so repetitive. Can someone please wake him up and bring a bit of liveliness to this courtroom.
File is being moved around from person to person but I don't see people wearing masks & applying hand sanitizer before & after touching the document - #Covid19 #NextWave
According to my analysis.Senzo was killed during aguement with some of people in the house. No hit man is involved. Biggest Question why the killer is protected by state. Is killer too famous or has more money... Is the owner of the hat.
Adv Teffo how was he representing the accused No 1 ,2 ,3 and 4 but at the same time representing the Meyiwa family and Orlando Pirates FC....i thought about it and failed to understand...14/12/2024
How I wish Adv Teffo would address all these questions to Dlovu, because this Mosia can’t answer them all as he was appointed as someone who is from Forensic..
Dlovu is the one who should be cross examined here regarding that crime scene.. And according to the people who were inside the house, they said 2 men came in demanding money and phones, but now Mosia is saying, the other man was outside the house only 1 person went in with a gun… and how did ooKelly identify the second person if he was outside and why didn’t he ran after Longwe as he claims that he managed to escape the scene. Ey!! They just keep revealing themselves I hope Adv Tefo takes notes and use them against ooKelly and others who were in the house🤔
Point axactly, now sad part is he is shooting his bullets on wrong person, Ndlovu will be well prepared for him... Strategy wise, they now know wat to expect from ADV Teffo
are these the type of Advs we have in SA yoooh hai its a joke really, the questions are pointless the guy looks and sounds like he doesnt even know what to ask and the translator is just making me have a headache
Teffo: Can you remember when your standby started and when it ended. Witness: I cannot remember if I had my pocket book I would be able to recall. Yet he remembers in detail everything that happened or how the crime scene looked like.
I'm sure you can remember who your grade 1 class teacher was but can't remember what you had for breakfast last week Tuesday. It's possible to remember some things and not others.
@@simphiwemkhatshwa6779 I definitely can't remember who my grade 1 teacher was and I'll tell you what I had for breakfast last week Tuesday, nothing because I never have breakfast.
@@nondumisomazibuko2867 lol must be sad being your first grade teacher (so easily forgotten) Anyway my point still stands, remembering one event doesn't mean you should remember other events. You can remember all, some parts, or none. All these are possibilities.
@@sfisokuhle9874 hey I lost interest from the back and forth, the aggressor advocates with attitude 🚮🚮forgetting that the world is following this case he wanna call the shots dismissing the detective’s / investigator’s information saying they aren’t interested in what he is saying because he is repeating 😁but I am glad his objection was dismissed 🤬
@@charleyshaaz I think Tefo is Trying to Show us that the Crime Scene was Tempared with plus the DNA of the hat belongs to a Female not any of his Clients
This Teffo guy has no respect really. He doesn't sound matured enough to be the adv of this case. He is pompous and thinks others doesn't have the capacity. He needs to respect other people's jobs coz without a police officer. There won't be case and if there is no case it means he will starve
Ok Longwe said he managed to run out of the house during the attack. So at 2:14 00 Sergeant Mosia said one suspect came inside the house and the other one remained outside, so if that's the case Longwe must be brought in to answer because there is no way the outside suspect was not going to try block or attack him NEVER.
Something doesn't add up
If that's what he said then this is scary because Mosia says he got to the house at 00:20 Where Brig Gen Ndlovi called him to come attend to a soccer star that was killed. So he came to collect evidence and take pictures.
How did he survive when someone was outside? Also, they said 2 guys entered the house. What's going on?
According to their theory, the other two suspect were outside checking cost 👀 and Longwe went through them how?
Tefo already exposed the case & parties involved in an interview with SABC. Senzo was killed with Longwe's gun... 2 shots fired... 2 different shooters... My guess is Senzo disarmed Longwe & the gun fell... While Senzo was beating Longwe someone else shot him.
@@bongchokegaming561 And who else out of all these people can do it??? If not Kelly's sister? 🤦🏾♂️🤔🤔🤔🤔🥱 There you go case solved.
Our lawyer system is a disgrace. People question advocate Teffo of his English when asking questions keep in mind He still has his qualifications. Truth is people are so captured to think English should be fluent. Many other countries value their languages. Teach English abroad you will start having a openmind
And he was not even wrong with the term “Mastermind”
They do not know what they are talking about. His English is the best. The only problem is that he has too much going on in his mind, emotions and feelings that he was struggling to express himself properly choosing the right words. Believe you me, I have watched all of his videos and got to understand Adv Teffo. 😀Bless him.
In another interview Teffo said he was first representing the Meyiwas, bt now is presenting the accused. He even said that there were 2 separate cases of meyiwas murder case.1. Inestigation under commisioner Sithole, where the intruder allegedly entered the house.
2. Investigation under minister Bheki Cele,where all 7 house occupants needed to be interrogated.
My asumption is Teffo knows a lot about this case. He also revealed he worked as an investigator before he became an advocate. Watch this space!!!
It's going to be interesting how he present this approach when he presents his clients' cases in dispute of the allegations... If not presented by the state, it won't impact on the outcome of this case as the state is prosecuting only one case and not his two...he probably will allude to this when he cross examines the state investigator when he's testifying which should be immediately objected by the state if not presented in that witness evidence in chief or been agreed to when submitting heads of argument during pre-trial
@@susanitomsana7617 he was handcuffed In court that clown🚮🚮🚮
Now this makes sens for his arrest, well it adds up into the puzzle... Its bad mos
Judge is biased against adv Teffo
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Not true. Teffo been breaking rules of engagement as if he didn’t go to law school. He’s emotional as well. Emotional soldiers can get other soldiers killed in a war.
This guy was not an investigator by that time,uyasho ukuthi u Ndlovu was involved yena he is part of forensic aiycha khona asifundile but the questions must be answered by u Ndlovu,yebo usephume iphenshini but they can call him to be a state witness
Yebo
Awufundanga, ngempela forensic is part of collecting evidence , , obuzosetshenziswa Uma kuqulwa icala , lephoyisa lidlala ngegeja kuziliwe
Judge is against Adv Tefo since day one
This hat and a walking stick is not a sign of hard physical contact at all. There is no way that when they were rushing Senzo to hospital nothing could have been broken or fallen on the floor. This is pure lies.
Everyone was in the house must come to explain
The only person who does his job to perfection is the translator the rest no, our system is in question here very poor......
I hope they will call the people that where in the house as witnesses to give an account of what happened as they are the people that were in the house.
They will call them.
I hope by then advocate Teffo is still practicing law because by the looks of things they're trying to gag him.😷
Adv Teffo can’t articulate himself properly but he is making valid points.
You can’t measure’s someone’s intelligence by the language they’re fluent in. If you can listen you’ll realise he is actually smart.
True, he makes perfect sense
Teffo is smart.
That’s mental slavery who cares ? We don’t aspire to be anything but African
Michelle... Exactly what I have been arguing. And it is clear that even a small thing as 45 VS 55 is wrong... He somehow reminds me of myself a few years ago... I went on a journey to be able to articulate properly. And by not being able to people did not take anything I said.. And reactively did so.
Advocate Teffo is so street wise
The sad thing is that the 5 are going to walk out scot-free and after 8 years,the case will be back to square one!They need to bring the real perpetrators to trial.It is embarrassing that the state can decide to go ahead with this nonsense even after having ascertained that the hat is for a woman and not any of the suspects.
He is an embarrassment...
Adv Teffo can do better if he align his tactics and stop being emotional.
And he is using Kasi taal.and it's ok.we are not Americans here
@@gomolemomanake1358 How ?
I didn't go to law school but adv Teffo is asking relevant questions.
Fax . I don’t think the judge likes him
Bias
Asking relevant questions to wrong witness. Waisting bullets
Some are but some are misplaced
Tefu knows something that the reason why he become a little bit emotional when he ask a question but the truth is why mr ndlovu never came to answer as a first person who arrive at the scene, kudlaliwe ngabafowethu mara niqine zinsizwa iqiniso lizovela ningayeki ukukhuleka🙏unkulunkulu uyabonelela.
I thought Teffo said, he had 19 years of exprerience. But, he cannot differentiate the roles of police, detectives and forensic alike.
thank you @Sikhumbuzo
He came there with EFF mentality 🚮🚮🚮he is active tough but exposing his stupidy
Let's hope it will be not that serious charley. I hear you. Let's give him a benefit of doubt. He is still dealing with a first witness. Lol
@@sikhumbuzolukashe4431 he will sleep In a cell tonight along with his clients😤😤did you see how they hand cuff him?
@@charleyshaaz yhooo I saw that. And, now already he is point at Minister as involved in his arrest. I was hoping he will keep silent, and ventilate his thoughts on a bail application process.
Clearly the crime scene was tempered with. 1st of all the brigadier Ndlovu was not supposed to be allowed in the crime scene. Only the 1st man on the scene and experts are allowed to enter the crime scene. Victims were supposed to be taken out of the crime scene immediately n the place of safety was supposed to be arranged for them. The only person who was supposed to welcome experts into the crime scene is the first officer on the scene n not brigadier Ndlovu.
Seeing the way the policeman performed in cross examination, shows they are clearly not trained on what they should and shouldn't do. How do you have 19 years of experience but only take evidence from your superior (who probably don't do crime scenes everyday- a brigadier), then ignore everybody in the house. Then you close your file satisfied you have everything. It clear cops bungled a lot of things in this case. They charging people with possession of ammunition, but didn't note the number of bullets. Sies...Gah
The victim was not dead when they took him to hospital. Who does not know how long Ambulances and Police respond to calls. And, what is he trying to get from this witness. Why cant he ask forensic work......
He is smart. He's going to link what type of the gun killed Senzo and how many bullets where shot in the house on that night. There is a theory about cartridges which were found in the scene which will answer the question why Kelly khumalo called Mr Chico Twala before they called the police.
It is not normal that something as grave a shooting that leaves someone fatally injured,can go unreported for 4 hours!!After all,not everyone in that house took the now deceased to the hospital!Also,the element of danger was not there since the gunmen had fled.No one can say they were scared!
It is clear that the scene and the evidence have been tempered with.Hence the delay in reporting!
No one can say they were scared... Everyone was in fighting the intruder hence the walking still was also used.... I am trying to think of Senzo and Kelly trying to risk fighting an intruder instead of just giving their phones and let the gunman walk away.
Judge Judge Judge... Very personal and emotional. He need to allow Adv. Teffo to cross examine the witness. Whether he is repeating question or not.
I agree
Teffo is a problem and the judge is biased
What does time have to do here. Get to the specific questions adv Teffo please.
Adv Teffo is questionable...he didn't put any dispute on the forensic evidence but catching on straws...Sgt Moshiane is not investigating officer but crime scene forensic investigator
Aibo this guy is just emotional for nothing. All this time cross examining the forensics guy without disputing his actual evidence this guy is here to testify on. I thought he was on to something with the timelines but lost me.
Forensic means you have to be more thorough than investigating officer...The cops did a poor job, the judge is biased that's y he allowed cops to run his court.
mosiane is talking nonsense, more than 5 people in the house don't make a single call to police ? in either way, how many calls did police receive after trying to save senzo, more than 5 calls?
This Mosiana guy is a liar, it's just that Tefo can't follow up on unanswered questions; he rather skips.
Phezukwabo tefu🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Speculative cross examination from the adv. Teffo rather than disputive forensic evidence to the witness
Is it me or the translator is pouting at adv teffo everytime he turns his head to look at him, this been killing me 🤣🤣
It is going to be a very long trial at the rate adv Teffo is going. Some of these questions are irrelevant to this witness. As for the emotional judge yena haai 😒
I agree both are creating a problem for this case
The witness(forensic guy) is comprised and in simple cases where he should have answered 'I don't know'. He tries by all means to protect the eye witnesses by 'thinking' for them. If this was a 1st world country this guy would be behind bars.
I don't like the forensic investigator is not giving the court the whole information, yes he's compromised.
Ay this case is a mystery and have a lot of contraversy. Why Ndlovu was at the crime scene. I don't understand why the bullet jacket stayed for so long? Was it dropped by someone from another scene to protect the right gun that was used
It could be.and it looks like there is 2 cases here,or is it me who is lost a bit?2014 file and this one
You are right. 2014 and 2019
Hmmm the judge comes across as bias. Adv Teffo is asking relevant questions but in a arrogant manner.
Relevant on street, irrelevant in court. U deal with wat is on da table in court.
From the beginning Teffo said his is not disputing the evidence but seeking for clarity
I'm worried on behalf of the 4 accused he is representing
This judge is biased against Me Tefo
I dont think so. Any judge would 've called him out. He repeats questions, he's disrespectful, & some of the Qs he asks are irrelevant & ought to be asked to the investigating officer.
The judge has a duty to intervene.
My question is this forensic known a damage bulet was fore a revolver gun but he didn't get a bullet cover and he a bullet before balestics test how?
There are two theories about the cartridges in the crime scene the revolver and the 9mm
First thing there is a casualty anywhere in the World, the police and the ambulance are contacted. Even a 4 year old would know that. Does not have to take 5 hours. Who contacted Ndlovu anyway?
This adv tefu very stupid
The complaint is given to local van to attend they will gather the first information of crime from victims and witnesses and take statements then call the forensic expect to take pictures of the scene and collect available available evidence. So in his arrival there was a senior officer who he had to speak to as for what happened only complaints van people could answer that🤣😂
But it also duty of forensic to take statements as far as am concerned, bcz statements are also form of evidence.
You are the one who is very stupid..Teffo exposed this forensic guy that when he arrived after 2/5 hours on the scene. There were no local police but detective Ndlovu who is also not authorized to be on the scene since it was not his jurisdiction.
But because you are an idiot. You didnt see that but just to say Adv Teffo is stupid. Tsek
As if you know or understand Law
@@menzisibiya6718 not on that scene it was not his duty
@@keletsobevan8740 I may not know the law but the procedure of the scene I know it very well
Most of Adv Teffos questions are supposed to be answered by the investigating officer bathong!
who was this case assigned to him and when
Chicho Twala said they were in the hospital. Who actually drove Senzo to the hospital?
The judge is something else
Funny @ times really 😂😂😂
He is making Tefo’s job hard.
@@michellemdebuka19 not really, Adv Teffo is making things hard for himself, he has this case in his hand nd yet he is asking questions on wrong witness, he is shooting his bullets out nd this will result to better strategy for Ndlovu.
How on earth are the results not given to the investigation officer? This is insane.
This guy is not an investigating officer, he's from Lcrc
Ndlovu must come and answer
Four hours before report to forensic and to police because imidietly someone get shot you must call police and police call forensic 🤔
How can you call someone to the crime scene and not tell you the address 🙁🙁🙁
🤣🤣🤣
.."with obliterated serial number, serial number is not even written I don't know maybe it's bcoz its obliterated,," this guy tenfold says a whole bunch of unnecessary stuff makes him sound stupid
Accused 3 doesn't even look like any of the Guys Drawn by the Sketch artist wee kusezo Shuba
I really feel sorry for them xem
I hope the state doesn’t use them as scape goats
This is why Adv Tefo has to put in the work, they’ll soon crack.. and this Head Judge is so bias.
I also noticed that he is not neutral at all
The advocate for the accused's is purposefully repeating non relevant questions to delay proceedings. And the way he poses his questions are very hard to answer because they at times dont make sense
That is really annoying, nd waisting tym by making unnecessary gestures nd sarcastic remarks
I took Adv Teffo lightly @ 1st bt he seems like he knows what he is doing #truth will previal of who killed Senzo Meyiwa
- lol DNa being of lady puts more confusion 😅 , this case has long way to go
This judge is biased and this disgrace.
the judge is personal on advocate teffo
He is not, Adv Teffo is doing unnecessary things. Bringing irrelevant things on the tabler and repeating questions, court nd street debate are different.
@@waynemongwe8971 you must watch the full video but anyway the clients of advocate teffo they will come victories end
I doubt he will win, law 101 u ask relevant questions to relevant people, he is using street tactics in a court of law, courts deals with things differently
@@waynemongwe8971 thank you
@@zanobuhlemadolo4435 i would love for the truth to come out, i believe everyone wants to know the truth, but we cant be sensitive about court proceedings, it needs to be respected and complied with, in cant use emotions, dats why its not like parliament where where ppl can scream and shout and says whatever they feel. In court u dnt have to be aggressive or shout to make ur statements, its how u present ur facts, so if u are all over the show nd worst part go Back and forth with the Judge, u just making this hard for urself... After all, im waiting for both sides to present what they on the table, evidence shall lay it out for us. As for now, just watch and listen.
I love me the translator. He's killing it and uneshori😂❤
Ey namu sengiyamthanda manje
But why is he translating for this one guy only or is this how things are done in court ngididekile😹
😭😭😂 But when he said "Let me explain this correctly" 🤣🤣🤣
@@zinhlemqadi3404 😆😆I also had that question in mind until I realised that actually he expands the response to cover the question - however not consistent. You see that when the expert answers in one word. The approach makes sense in using the court's time efficiently.
please fire the person who does your subtitles
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yhoo Lo Thabo 😩😩 uyaywisa now who Took the Docket from their office
South Africa is deadly corrupt!!
Advocate, must sit down he don't know what to say.
True. He his style of questioning is not professional. Not focused
Kanti what's happening here? 😩😩
Adv Tefo is not bad at all.
Imagine someone go to other people house and demand cash although is not sure if the cash is available come guyz we need to think about this
Something doesn't add up in this case..accused 3 doesn't even look like that one on the sketch
And doesn’t look like someone who would own a colour blocking hat 😂
How many dockets kgante?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Adv Teffo’s line of questioning is very very bad . And if it’s anything is to go by these gents will find themselves in more trouble than they already are . I mean what’s the relevance of asking of the forensic knows who owns the house. .
I am so confused 😕 it seems as if his new
Teffo is doing very well so far.
Shame the forensic investigator has to do his own objections.....where is the prosecutors who are supposed to be objecting? Asleep? And how is the judge allowing the dramatic comments (3 day course) - must be the SACBC cameras.....I feel so sorry for Senzo's family....this case is being treated as a reality....
Interesting case 🤔 👌 😏 😉 👀 Senzo meyiwa his on his own trial.
Kana he said he is a former Saps member. I see anger
Yeah. Most former officers have lot of anger towards the serving ones.
And this will cost him. He is too emotional and he wants to debate like he is on the street. This platform is different.
I mean why is he forcing the witness to know about Ndlovu
Aaaai maan you can't ask Forensics investors about charges kante this guy be ele lephodisa la kae?
I always listen to cases from different countries I must say SA still need to update their system, just Ntunthuko Shoba’s murder case, advocates were whispering how they will defend him🚮🚮always talking at the back, I don’t hear it from other countries!!
Remember on a normal day there are no cameras in court, only public interest cases have cameras...lawyers are not used to that
It is always like that in many countries. Remember ppl talk even when there is a funeral. It is normal for ppl to talk just that you will not see it if u are not in court or it is not televised.
It is allowed for ppl to pass note and whispers to each other. Even the judge to whisper n pass not to court clerks and other relevant court personal
@@levelgroundboerboels4183 yes they do and they make sure that everything is professional, they edit it🤦🏽♀️
I'll come back the day it has been proven who the real (known) killer is.
So Adv Tefo is trying to drive at a fight between the guy that killed Senzo and the woman with a walking stick?
Yho! typing error on legal document
Adv Teffo is correct on the due diligence part something does not make sense
The forensic guy did not carry out any investigation.He just took what was said by Ndlovu Actually,his relevance in this case is negligible.He is not adding any value.
In his cross examination he identified gaps in the forensic investigation when and where he received the call and the 4 hour gap. And the fact that a Provincial Head was on the crime scene instead of the local police station attending to the complaint which makes him question if the crime scene wasn't tempered with.
More trainings are needed to Mr Mosia nd law enforcement as large
This Advocate Teffo wasted the whole day.... i would worry as his client... his line of questioning is so off.. no relevance to the evidence given.
True that. His questioninh style doesn't yield any results. Too much talk no facts
Aggressive yet pointless... Ask relevant questions on wrong witness... Big mistake is now Ndlovu can be prepared for better as they know wat to expect, Adv Teffo has this case on his palm, but he is messing it up.
All I can say is that this advocate is putting me to sleep and his questions are so repetitive. Can someone please wake him up and bring a bit of liveliness to this courtroom.
File is being moved around from person to person but I don't see people wearing masks & applying hand sanitizer before & after touching the document - #Covid19 #NextWave
"3 days life saving course"
According to my analysis.Senzo was killed during aguement with some of people in the house. No hit man is involved. Biggest Question why the killer is protected by state. Is killer too famous or has more money... Is the owner of the hat.
Adv Teffo how was he representing the accused No 1 ,2 ,3 and 4 but at the same time representing the Meyiwa family and Orlando Pirates FC....i thought about it and failed to understand...14/12/2024
Mina ngi experts are kodwa translater
The judge is creating a problem of his court
The interpreter isizulu is bad, I wonder whether he's ndebele by ethnic?
The police must be too slow as forensic take four hours to reach incident 🤞
How I wish Adv Teffo would address all these questions to Dlovu, because this Mosia can’t answer them all as he was appointed as someone who is from Forensic..
Dlovu will also get the same!
Dlovu is the one who should be cross examined here regarding that crime scene.. And according to the people who were inside the house, they said 2 men came in demanding money and phones, but now Mosia is saying, the other man was outside the house only 1 person went in with a gun… and how did ooKelly identify the second person if he was outside and why didn’t he ran after Longwe as he claims that he managed to escape the scene. Ey!! They just keep revealing themselves I hope Adv Tefo takes notes and use them against ooKelly and others who were in the house🤔
And what I don't understand is why a General of Detectives was at the scene.
But forensics are also duty bound to take statements, those are silent evidence from primary witnesses.
Point axactly, now sad part is he is shooting his bullets on wrong person, Ndlovu will be well prepared for him... Strategy wise, they now know wat to expect from ADV Teffo
from 8 the walking stick and hat still down after 12 am?yaa ne
Teffo is street wise
And that will cost him and his clients, coz he is not applying or conducting himself court wise
The 1st person to arrive at the seen should be called that person is a key witness
Most useless guy in the court is the Translator 😂😂
I think he is usefull
He is the Best,
You are wrong
He is, he only translate answers not questions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Something wrong on this case guys
Who is the i.o.in this matter is he Foresic and Bullistic evidence before the testimony of the witnesses 🥺 yhoo we will see maybe the is a plan
at 2hr:56 Mr Mosia is mad, nothing unusual about hat and walking stick on the floor in a house with kids, moreso that doesn't represent scuffle.
Who killed senzo though?
Just imagine the whole adv saying the person a mastermind.
What's wrong with that?
Brigadier Ndlovu!!!!This is painful.Things don't add up!!!
Judge is biased,he needs to be changed
Im sure Judge yinhlalisuthi ngibona 👉🏽👨🏿🦳
Iam unsetisfied with unswers of forensic
are these the type of Advs we have in SA yoooh hai its a joke really, the questions are pointless the guy looks and sounds like he doesnt even know what to ask and the translator is just making me have a headache
I don’t get him at all and I am so annoyed 😒
His level of questioning should be done at the regional court nothigh court.
The look yama soldier kula corner🙄🤣
His question is everywhere 🤔🤔🤔
He is fishing.... his line of questioning exposes that he really has nothing on the witness
@@gomolemomanake1358 just buying time. We want other witnesses like those who were inside the house
In cross examination you question every where to fish for contradictions.
Adv does not know what to ask. It's like he is in a comedy show
Repeating, questions, asking irrelevant questions, tym delaying tactics
Teffo: Can you remember when your standby started and when it ended.
Witness: I cannot remember if I had my pocket book I would be able to recall.
Yet he remembers in detail everything that happened or how the crime scene looked like.
I'm sure you can remember who your grade 1 class teacher was but can't remember what you had for breakfast last week Tuesday. It's possible to remember some things and not others.
@@simphiwemkhatshwa6779 I definitely can't remember who my grade 1 teacher was and I'll tell you what I had for breakfast last week Tuesday, nothing because I never have breakfast.
@@nondumisomazibuko2867 lol must be sad being your first grade teacher (so easily forgotten) Anyway my point still stands, remembering one event doesn't mean you should remember other events. You can remember all, some parts, or none. All these are possibilities.
What an embarrassment 🤦🏽♀️
I missed out. What's happening?
Yhoo this Thabo Guy hay shame Uyaychamela Deal
To Cele and his department!!goes to show the level SAPS sunk to
@@sfisokuhle9874 hey I lost interest from the back and forth, the aggressor advocates with attitude 🚮🚮forgetting that the world is following this case he wanna call the shots dismissing the detective’s / investigator’s information saying they aren’t interested in what he is saying because he is repeating 😁but I am glad his objection was dismissed 🤬
@@charleyshaaz I think Tefo is Trying to Show us that the Crime Scene was Tempared with plus the DNA of the hat belongs to a Female not any of his Clients
This Teffo guy has no respect really. He doesn't sound matured enough to be the adv of this case. He is pompous and thinks others doesn't have the capacity. He needs to respect other people's jobs coz without a police officer. There won't be case and if there is no case it means he will starve
For your own information Teffo was a police officer for many many years before he became an Advocate... He will not undermine that career.
He just lost the case, let's hope the advocate for accused number 5 will do a better
Adv Teff his also emotional for unnecessary reasons🙄
Bayazana maan aba and lento bayilwayo it’s beyond this
i know a judge who was bought when i see one
The translator👌
This typist is disturbing 🙌🤦🏾