@@Elzaghir I still can't believe this, I still feel like it's just one of his jokes, my brain can't comprehend this feeling, I still wish this is just a nightmare... His mother omg his mother 😭
@@TariqYasiinProd I've never felt this way before. I really wish he would talk to me in my dreams or give a sign of forgiveness. But I can't help but feel likes that's not even possible.
TriForce, you're one of the realest people on the internet. You're a great strong and intelligent person. I wish you success and will keep supporting you and I believe what you say and so should the wider community. I hope you're doing okay after this tragic event and RIP Etika.
He's in denial too, like please show me the statistics for not mentally ill people who have killed themselves. Just cuz you are mentally ill don't make you crazy, his misunderstanding of this is the problem, depression is a mental illness. Number 1: You don't have to be sane to realize you aren't sane. 226+ people are in denial. (By the way, I've been a psychiatrist for five years as of next month, don't listen to some guy who hasn't studied psychiatry on mental health. Also I'm calling his bluff on saying he did study psychiatry ) No one could have helped him, when you reach that low of a point in your life ONLY you can pull yourself out, no one should blame themselves. TH-cam is so full of grieving fans, I see people lashing out of sorrow and people all telling different sides and trying to figure out what went wrong and who to blame. No one is too blame, we all have our battles, some of us don't win..
I like how you were honest in stating that you weren't very close to Etika. Most youtubers out here are acting like they knew Etika since kindergarden while posting pictures of the one time they met him.
Just imagine, Alex could have ended up the same way. I'm terrified at the thought we could easily lose so many people to this sickness of toxic media culture.
I don't mean to change topic but Your mind is on another level. Of all the talk about etika, you make the most sense. I always seem to get the best explanation or the truth of things from you... And to play Tetris at the same tiiime Like, how? I'd freeze up or stutter every sentence
@@SliceySlicer huh So with the few moments where he actually messed up and asked "why did I do that?" You still believe that it was prerecorded? Come on now, pay attention. Now, Say he wrote a script instead based on what other people say. He's putting everything together and informing those who don't know. A lot of Etika fans would come to him whenever something came up, so it only makes sense. Idk what you have against him.
goddamn its been 4 years and i just found this video and wow i hate that more people haven't seen this and the way he puts it reminds me of a lot of dark places i've been and it makes sense now triforce is a goddamn genius god bless you triforce
You speaking facts Triforce He's was pure pressured into a fake personality which people crave the nonsense. I love Etika because he put a smile on my face every time he uploaded or live broadcast. Etika was truly a light force that shine bright. Again rest well young Legend 🙏 and thank you Triforce for this video God bless you as Triforce
sunsbookishgamesx the people we should be putting blame on is the toxic people in his live stream chats. He was trying to please everyone, but he couldn’t sadly.
And that's why I hate this current "meme-internet-culture". They don't take things seriously, they just want to see what they like and never try to understand consequences of their own actions. And what do we have at the end? The consequences, oh boy. It's like at first the mass has an opinion which is indisputably right (that irony) and then they're wondering why some things happen afterwards. It actually makes me really angry. But well... we have to move on :v
The whole meme culture on the internet is all about being entertained, despite the consequences or damage it can do. You can't take anything personally on the internet or you will suffer
Definitely, if kids understood who they were and had more experience they'd understand that doing this is not appropriate. This situation needs to be talked about for years, and shouldn't be forgotten about, insensitive behavior isn't cool, nor is being edgy at the expense of others. If people keep blinding themselves from criticism by saying "It's satire." or "It's just a joke." when and where will we ever draw the line, on what is justified or not. There's a lot of gaslighters on the internet, that lack true wisdom but have knowledge, wisdom in my opinion is the application of knowledge in a concrete and stable way. So many of these kids learn so much about all these different topics, and genres but never ever learn about themselves, what makes them tick or what they want in life. Hence why the suicide rates are going up as of recently. Self love and self respect goes a long way in understanding how much your thoughts, words and actions can affect others, until people realize this and spread that awareness we won't fix the problem. For everyone in the comment section enraged by the Etika situation, turn that rage into love and spreading awareness. Don't watch or encourage bullying regardless of whose in the right or not. Be there for your fellow man, your friends and your families. It's sad that it takes a death of someone who we didn't take seriously for everyone to wake up and realize cruelty isn't the answer, so I hope that people are more aware when you see red flags when someone is going through something, even if they're a TH-camr.
@@bruhyote132 dont know if yer calling me a dense bitch or saying that rhetorically.. You can lament toxic kids lack of respect all you want, but as long as the internet remains unfiltered, anonymous, and unchecked you change nothing. Toxic people will be toxic and they are here to stay. Thats why im saying if you want to protect yourself, you cannot take anything personal on the internet. But judging from your name i assume thats very hard for you to do. And that was one of etikas biggest flaws. He couldnt disconnect and disengage from the toxic people of the internet. The more he fed into them, the more he consumed himself.
Its effing retarded man...I dont mean to sound edgy but deadass...I'm almost glad Etika isn't here anymore. This fucking place SUCKS. Etika didnt deserve to be born in this world. A world where ppl use clown emojis to talk to a mentally Ill man who has stated so many times and even cried while doing so once that he loved us...and we respond with fucking clown emojis!?!?. We didnt deserve any of the amount of happiness that man gave us. I've seen so many comments about "oh hes in a better place" and whatever and yeah its cliche but the more I think about...the happier I get that he doesnt have to deal with this fucked up place we call earth.
@@LetsDiscussFR Yea especially with how divided everyone is and the 2020 election you know things will get alot worse from here. For gods sake people actually made jokes about the new Zealand mass shooting. AND some people support this random psychotic japanese girl for stabbing and killing the guy she was obsessed with.
Suicide isn’t an action. Suicide is an disease of the mind, which took ETIKA’s life. He was mentally ill. He was not crazy. He was a philosopher. But social media drove him, to let his suicidal disease take over.
S L O T H you’re half right my dude. There’s a common mistake you hear now days, “Etika committed suicide.” It’s more accurate to say it was Death by suicide. Suicide is actually a disease of the mind. Like if I were to say Death by AIDS or something. You wouldn’t say Etika committed Aids. Also. You’re right. Severe Depression is also a mental illness that can lead to suicidal thoughts.
TwoDB Vibing yeah this is sad there’s people blaming him and some of the fans are toxic now I believe triforce when it was part of his toxic fan base or at least part of it
Triforce has always been a person, who consistenly speaks the truth! Whenever he does an evisceration video, or any video, where he talks about a certain subject, he always does his research prior. Triforce's speeches and the sureness of his voice are honestly inspiring to me!
@@karlhnedkovsky5214 Honestly, I only wished he didn't state that Etika is not suffering from a mental illness, that's pure deniability of the truth. By not addressing Etika suffering from a mental illness you're not spreading the awareness it needs and is the exact reason Etika why had gone through what he did. He most likely suffered from a hereditary mental illness or some type of bipolar disorder, but TriForce still continues to avoid that truth. Which is why it's hard for me to take his message seriously even though he is speaking about very important things that has definitely been going on. Don't get me wrong I don't dislike TriForce I just dislike his way of speaking about mental illness like it's not a thing. The more we pretend Etika was normal and had no mental health problems the more we won't be able to see the red flags when another situation like this ever happens. Mental health is real and should never be swept under the rug or be not taken seriously.
I needed to hear this. Thank you Triforce. You said a lot of things that everybody knew and were trying to run from. Thank you for what you were to Etika, and the stories you shared. From now on you have my support, as a person, as a creator, and so do all of the causes you work for. JOYCONBOYZ🖤
A lot of what I do is what Etika was into and that is why I was trying to collaborate with him. However, dark forces knew and tried to keep him from connecting with me. The same with his brother etc. They got to keep "people" like us separated. To be honest with you, I'm going to make a stream and speak on this... stay tuned.
Whatever you said is 100% facts man. I never liked Etika's chat, especially the regular chat. Even the replies on his twitter. It's like every time he got a donation to do some crazy shit, he seemed super hesitant because he knows it isn't good for him. JoyconBoyz Forever. May his soul rest in peace.
I don't know what alternate universe you where watching bro. that dude went in out of no where. I remember when he randomly started busting light bulbs on his head, and I was like WHAT THE F BRO!?
Thank you so much for the explanation Triforce. The whole situation was very confusing to me from your video last month I believe, but now this makes more sense. I'm sorry for the hate you've been getting and I hope you can cope with this loss. Continue the mission and godspeed brother.
Thank you for making this video and explaining all the confusion. I've been so scared and confused since he started getting so under pressure. I'm very shocked and sad that he took his own life. Again, thank you so much for talking about the truth.
TriForce, you are such a real Individual. Thanks for your words. At the end of the day we have to stay strong and still trying to reach our goals. Like you beautifully said in your tribute-video to continue the fight. The Madness nowadays is real, the negativity literally eats up individuals. Wishing you success at your Mission.
I know your words are completely true. I was one of the few unheard people that even though I could never donate I would ALWAYS say in chat to all the people that donated to STOP because he would keep drinking and smoking something and all that. But few of us did that. The big donation dudes kept this fucking madness going. And ABSOLUTELY YES. HE WAS NOT MENTALLY ILL!!!! IT WAS ALL FUCKING PEER PRESURE THAT DROVE HIM TO THE EDGE. FUCK ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO KEPT TELLING HIM TO DRINK, TO GO CRAZY, TO SAY TO HIM THAT HE WAS A FUCKING CLOWN. BECAUSE OF YOU WE LOST HIM. FUCK. Triforce, I thank you for voicing this. You could not be any more correct. Etika will be forever missed.
You are a true angel, and if only more people did what you've done, Etika would still be with us. But we shouldn't think like that anymore. We should hope he is in a better place, and keep him and what happened in mind to prevent these things from happening again. I pray for our society to improve 🙏
Triforce, you have my full respect bro. Man I totally understand everything you're saying. Bro your insight to this whole thing has given me real closure. Bless you man.
Thanks for this Triforce, I appreciate you talking about this and opening up about the truth so that ignorant people can understand and not make false accusations and assumptions.
Damn Triforce i was waiting for you to speak....and you have spoken! I can always count on you to speak the truth for our people with no filter and the FACTZ 👌💯to me you have always been bigger than TH-cam and are a leader to my people....thanks for the video for those that needed clarification on this matter...RIP to Etika and all those that have fallen.
I shared similar sentiments to what you had. Always felt the "help" his friends were trying to force on him was doing more harm than good. Imagine having police bust in your house, forcibly restrain you, parade you on the street and ship you to a mental ward. How humiliating and stress-inducing! Even though people used etika to promote "mental health"; who likes being labeled mentally ill!? Especially from your friends and loved ones. Now you wouldn't even feel like seeking comfort and help among friends because they would just label you ill and send you to the funny farm again. Then above all this he has to worry about maintaining his image for streaming to make a living. That's an extreme amount of pressure and anxiety to live with. When I first saw his bizarre posts and breakdown, rather than mental illness it looked more like an extreme way of venting a lot of pent up stress and shit in his life. And now after hes dead friends and fans are flooding the internet with tributes and love; something that could've been way more help or potentially saved him while he was alive. I definitely agree with you that he needed a better circle of people who could truly support and ground him during his anxieties, instead of having people call the cops on you and send you to the mental ward, where most of times you will just be put on a strict diet and on meds. Shame he could not receive the help he really needed.
Thank you TriForce for always being real man..People dont understand but i can see through the b.s. and when i seen your vids you always showed you had love for him.. I never once seen your content as a negative influence..& Thank You for genuinely caring about Etika and for being a true friend..I appreciate it💯
I's hard to be good in this world when you have evil people out there that doesn't want to see someone prosper people are messed up i always thought Etika's toxic fanbase messed him up
@@redcrimson1028 To be honest it all started with someone telling him he should start making videos because he was entertaining. He went with it, but what could have happened if he didn't do it? We may have had Etika alive but he would've been a whole lot different that we woudnt have recognized him.
@@theprocrastinator6813 he wouldve been alive and mabye his channel wouldve been as good as some of these other guys who has way better channels than him. For example obe1 channel is miles better than his, player essesnce, rgt review tech usa is miles ahead of etika. Social media is overrated poision and nonsense. This generation is dumbed down people cant think for themselevs and you are lost when u need other people's approval and you see where it got him. Theres an old saying, if someone jumps off the bridge are you going to jump off too? Too many opinionated people in this world who doesnt believe in god, thinks they are god that needs the approval of people this generstion of youths/people are dumbed down. Why you think i dont put stock into my channel? Its because i dont have the time, i'm too busy doing bigger and better things. Even though i'm one of thebmost hardcore gamer out there( more so than even a lot of guys who has channels dedicated to video games which i find funny lol) I'm an Artist and an entrepreneur business man I DONT HAVE THE TIME to waste on putting content on youtube for people who doesnt give a shit about me in the end. In the end those people didnt give a shit sbout etika, hell erika didnt care about himself as far as i could see becsuse if he was smart he wouldve seen that social media is BS and is wqs killing him slowly. My career and my family are more important than social media. Everyday there is some more that messages me about their stupid opinion and tries to oush it off as fact where as in reality they dont even know what they are talking about and the facts in reality says other wise. They are a lot of dumb people in america that makes other people's opinions control their lives and cant think for themselves. Fuck TH-cam and the people on it. Peace.
RESPECT Triforce! I felt the same about it. He was fighting a battle against his TH-cam self. The side that was making him ends to survive. So in the end he had only one choice. Real Sad!
As someone with chronic depression who has been suicidal, I am well aware that I am ill, and being aware does not make me any less ill. Being aware of my PTSD does not make it go away. Being aware of my spinal subluxation does not make my back become straight. That's the only flaw I see here in the video, the idea that awareness somehow means health.
Anna Cark More and more we notice how much things that seems unrelated such as nutrition and sleep affect mental health. I truly believe there is no one just born « depressed ». Evolution would have made it that your weak depressive genes would have had disappear. I think that both Etika’s environnement of New York, constant drinking and having a shitty diet of twizzlers and cheap spaghetti sauce cans contributed to his ability to see clear. Which much have caused more anxiety and pushed him toward pushing others away.
@@RyutaaKuzunoha you can be born depressed, and not really depressed, but that your brain doesn't make enough of the chemicals. Mental illness is just that, an illness. For some people you can treat it and it goes away. Others it stays forever. Some develop it, some are born with it. It doesn't matter how. I don't think Desmond had chronic depression. I think it was a product of habits, his environment, and the toxicity of his fanbase, and him pushing away the people who really cared about him and were concerned. Evolution doesn't counter depressive genes. Depression is a mental illness, an anomaly. It occurs spontaneously, at random. Evolution cannot combat that. Same with cancer, tumors, etc. All these things have existed since humans, and evolution cannot combat them. They evolve along with people.
Anna Cark I absolutely don’t want to make light of your situation or his. However ever since I started questioning and looking up what caused my own chronic illness and why I had no real joy in my life. I discovered that a metric ton of woes are caused by the first world we live in. If the hypothesis of (Some people just are born with depression) would be true. You’d see permanently depressed people in aboriginal tribes. You won’t find them. The main reason being they don’t eat any processed sugary food. Also they eat a ton of meat. Furthermore. Depression being related to low serotonin or dopamine production in the brain is purely an hypothesis. « Chemical imbalance » causing chronic depression is merely a claim. You don’t have to be a victim. Your depression or any other illness MUST not define who you are. Believe in your body’s power to heal by itself. If anyone know someone with depression or have depression themselves. You must stop listening to doctors and take health into your own hands. A few good way to start would be to look up some of these terms on TH-cam. Such as: •Dr.Bergman depression •Snake Diet •Carnivore Diet
Thank you for your perspective. I saw a few of Etika's videos in the past (didn't watch his live streams), and I loved his reactions to seeing some new games, and just being excited over things I loved too. He had a genuine passion for things, and it showed. I may have been a true fan of his had I followed him more. I don't know what difference it would have made, if any, but now I miss him. I certainly wish things didn't turn out the way things did, as he did not deserve this. It sounds like there were some genuine fans of both you and Etika that would have loved to see some kind of collaboration. I never saw Etika as some clown, but someone with a lot of heart. RIP, Etika.
This is exactly what I was looking for, it really all makes sense now seeing how even in his most apparent "mental breakdown"s he still seemed like he was levelheaded enough. If there is a common factor in cause of suicide it must be the feeling of truly being cornered, when you really have tried everything and it all leads to the same outcome
Hello Im from Guatemala, I am 30 years old. Learned NLP and have studied body language for more than 10 years. I just want to tell you that in his videos, the internal conflict matches the description you give. And of course only experience is capable of knowing this, like you said, he was deeply influenced. The problem is that he wanted to be influenced by them simply because he wanted to maintain his lifestyle. In spanish we have a phrase that says "Dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres" which can be tranlated to "Tell me who are you surrounded with and I will tell you who you are". “You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.” As Darren Hardy writes in The Compound Effect: “According to research by social psychologist Dr. David McClelland of Harvard, [the people you habitually associate with] determine as much as 95 percent of your success or failure in life.” I would like the NYPC to do a deep search of his social media influence. But I guess I am not any relative or so. One thing is for sure... He inspired me and I use to watch him for dozens of hours because I admired him a lot.
I had been thinking about those people that only encourage him. I really felt that Etika didn't have any illness and hearing you say all of this only reassures me. Etika said so himself, he only wanted to protect his image and doing so made him choose many wrong decisions. However, he emphasized how the media can mess people up. Thank you TriForce, Etika was my favorite TH-camr and hearing this was just what a fan like me needed.
This video needs to be shared with everyone. THIS right here, these words from this wonderful gentleman, need to be spread through the entire social media network. I am so glad i watched this video and now understand to the fullest extent. Thank you Triforce. You gave us the answers and closure we were looking for. If only he took you up on that offer to go to Africa man... Much love and respect to you and your mission ✊ much to love to Desmonds family. And definitely so much love to the Nintendo bad boy himself. Joycon Boyz FOREVER. Rest in paradise my friend.
It always absolutely baffled me how people kept saying Etika was “mentally ill”. Every time he did his “crazy” tweets, it was always clear to me that Etika was simply talking to himself out loud. I KNEW that at some point, Etika will eventually break because of all the ridiculous “mentally ill” and “clown” BS he was getting. To me, he always seemed as an incredibly strong person, mentally and emotionally. But at the end of the day, he’s a human being, he can only handle so much. This outcome, is absolutely heartbreaking, yet, somehow, it was very clear something disastrous was going to happen because of all the crap those toxic, blind idiots were doing to him. Thank you TriForce for always being the voice of reason, realism, and TRUTH. Wish I could like this video a thousand times over. Rest In Peace, both Desmond & Etika, absolute legends.
Your post is well-intentioned but screams ignorance towards mental illness. It’s not about being strong, it’s about chemical imbalances going on in the brain. Etika displayed many strong signs of bipolar disorder, even during the good times, and I think even Alice had confirmed it at one point. Honestly, Etika’s fanbase was toxic as fuck and there’s no doubt the income thing got to him (I actually made a post about that angle somewhere else). Still, stress is a main factor in people developing mental illness in the first place. I feel horrible for Etika and TriForce because of the peer-pressure kiddie shit mentality that has taken over these influencer cliques. Having mental illness is not something that should be lumped in with the clown shit; it’s not something that should be ashamed of. All that does is further add to the stigma.
moral of the story(as cliche as this sounds) sometimes the greatest enemy is yourself. When you claim to have "friends" like etika's fanbase. You know what they say, "who needs enemies with friends like you."
Thank you for the clarity Empire! I completely relate to the whole thing of traveling to your true land of your heritage. Whenever I visit Mexico, a part where technology is really irrelevant to live a fun life it brings new meaning to how I understand the world and helps me vent my stress knowing that when things get rough there is a place where I know I can get away to escape from stress.
I've seen these kinds of people in his community. Even on discord. They had no sense in reality. Absolutely none. To them that all was a game. Spraying insults and clown emotes around, calling "nibba be dead" or other disgusting slurs in the chat, on discord or on twitter. This is a problem, not only in Etikas community but in general. Please listen: Every word you say, every word you write has WEIGHT on it - has an impact on other people - just because you don't see them personally doesn't mean that it won't hurt them. Please - even if you enraged - take a moment before you type furiously words on your keyboard atleast sometimes. I'm so unbelieveably heartbroken about this whole situation, but i think that makes sense. Maybe i'm not agreeing to all of it, but i believe you, since you knew him in person - even talked to him and i don't. Thank you for your statement to all of this Triforce. I hope you're doin well! Joyconboyz forever.
Being in my 20s was the hardest for me I really hope some ppl learn not to push TH-camrs too far and pressure them to upload everyday or whatever it is these toxic ppl want. All that does is make ppl depressed and confused. I knew what you meant in the video.
I definitely was curious why during this time some of what I thought were his close friends not talking to him publicly and this explains a lot. I still remember your guys' stream together and it was so much fun to watch you guys interact almost in synch with each other. I'm sorry it got to this, I'm glad I know more regarding Desmonds darker side of his fanbase. This whole thing has gotten really dark and murky I knew it was only a matter of time before someone started trying to turn it around and weaponize our support for Etika to attack those they don't like. I wish I knew who it was so I could be wary/oust these people but I just want to give Etika and his name time to rest first. I wish you boundless energy for your mission and keeping steady in these hard times man.
Thank you, TriForce. This is the truth as I know it too, after the multiple discussions I had with him last year prior to shit hitting the fan in October. He was overworked and under-appreciated by the influx of volatile followers that just saw him as a dancing clown. I wish it hadn't come to this on any front, but I implore people to understand this wasn't an issue of mental illness, but the nature of internet celebrity and becoming attached to your career and your audience so much that it is a detriment to your overall health.
To him it was his life , he believed that if he doesnt have that anymore, then he has nothing left... He reached a point where he didnt know what to do with himself anymore and thats when he made that choice.
I agree with a lot of what this video says, but I also want to clarify what others in the comments have already said before; Mental illness isn't synonymous to insanity. The definition on this video is misunderstood. The pressure and stress on Etika to live and the expectations he felt like he had to live up to was already a sign of his mental wellness. Being conscious of your mental health doesnt equate to being mentally well. As someone who experienced depression myself, you can still be completely rational and conscious of your mental state and still be prone to suicidal thoughts. I feel this needed to be said again because people need to realize that mental illness is not and should not be a label for people with raw insanity, but for people with unhealthy thoughts, ideas, and behaviors that affects their livelihood. Etika was definitely not mentally well and I don't think it's right to dismiss that. His life on youtube and social media was just a big contributor to it.
You're actually wrong on that, it's exactly because of reason of opening up the terminology of mental illness that problems like these exist. Etika's mental health was bad but he was not mentally ill, there is _and should be_ a huge distinction between the two. Mental illness something is constant something that doesn't get fixed or go away because at the end of the day when you have a mental illness, something is wrong with you, you are permanently broken. I have depression and anxiety, I also have unhelpful thinking habits. But the unhelpful thinking habits aren't specific to me, anyone can have unhelpful thinking habits, but the difference between me being depressed and a normal person is that they are not constantly prone to having their thought pattern be that way whereas I am. When they do it, it's a sign of bad mental health, not because they are mentally ill. When I do it it's because I am mentally ill and so I constantly have bad mental health. Etika's issue was situational, that's why all this talk of "he's mental ill" never worked with him, he was in a bad place mentally for sure but just because you're in a bad place mentally doesn't mean you're mentally ill. The real problems are the after effect of the romanticism of mental health issues and the sickness that is social media.
@@helko1 who's to say that it wasn't a constant for etika? Being prone to a thought pattern doesn't mean it always has to be visible. Who's to say he didn't have these constant thoughts for a long time and nobody knew about it? I agree that social media is a problem, but I also believe that it contributes to mental illness and bad mental health in conjunction.
@@helko1 I do acknowledge that bad mental health and mental illness are two different things though. But in the case of Etika it could be either or. Like I mentioned, nobody can say for certain that Etika never harbored these kinds of dark thoughts constantly for a long time, or if it was a "situational" thing like you mentioned. (before anyone mentions that Etika said himself he had no intention of killing himself before his final video, that doesn't exclude the possibility of him ever THINKING ABOUT IT.) But it needs to be understood anyway that MENTAL ILLNESS specifically is not synonymous to INSANE or CRAZY.
I don't know the details about what was going on in his life but I know for a fact that what you're speaking is the truth. His last message was very clear and I think only those people who either knew him personally or was a long time viewer actually heard what he was saying.
That's how live streaming is, people want to see content at any cost, most people that watch live stream turn rabid and will only donate when you commit extreme or foolish acts and then they bully you when you do something they don't like, I know many streamers that are currently being bullied by their own community and are in depression.
Everything Triforce said made me realized everything i felt in my gut about Etika's situation was true and i am truly pissed off that had to had a major effect on him and eventually lead to his death. Much respect Triforce, this was a much needed video to be watched and hope many more watch this so they can have a better understanding on the matter.
Thanks for bringing insight into the situation. It helped shed some light on where his mind was, even just a little bit and what kind of pressure led him to what happened. I really wish there were people who could have helped him and been there for him. I know he could have gone passed this like he had before. Still doesn't feel real.. R.I.P
As much as I loved etika...he was never in control of his own life. He was an accessory to his fan base. He made a conscious decision at some point that he was in it for the money...and thats why he was so willing to destroy his own body and mentality, because those were the least important things to him. He was more concerned about making money off his fans than actually being happy. Ive been homeless, and i got out...but id 100% go back to living on the streets, if it meant i could keep my own mind. Etika should have moved to the country and became a farmer...hed still be here. But he didnt yet know what he wanted from life, and he was lost. I have had friends commit suicide, and it was always for the same reason "they couldnt see the real solutions to their problems". Suicide fixes nothing, it just shifts responsibility...
I never heard of triforce until now, but this was a beautiful video and has given me a lot of insight and a better understanding of the whole situation, thank you.
I understood Etika deleting his original channel because of management but the second channel EtikaFRFX I was genuinely surprised. I miss him so much. I don't know him as a person but it frasturates me that nobody could save him. I miss you so much
Still coming back, man I miss him. Thought exactly what you describe, from the first time I felt the people who put him down. I remember early on just showed a friend one of my favorite content of Desmond. My friend was immediately like he clown... I was irritated as hell. He was just so positive and real. I felt the toxic shit must be so irritating for him, why people? Why do yo feel so much need to put guys like Desmond down the first second you see him. My friend did not know him at that time. And it’s not a friend of mine anymore. Don’t need people who are so blind to see. How much pressure Des and others have to take just because there is stupid apathetic narcissistic people out there like it’s medieval times. It is unfortunate. I wish Etika could be there with you and get over that shit. But it’s heartbreaking just another great spirit now gone to early. Much love. You are always in company. R.I.P. Desmond you changed my life. The mission clear in sight, stronger with every tear that falls down my screaming face. You made us all and this Real. He saved so many. World doesn’t even know. He was the difference. Expect him. And you who reads this we could be friends too. Consider it.
I hear ya and I know what you are saying is 100% If you lived on New York, I bet you could have saved him, regardless of what these toxic people said about you. You would of been the one. Every other friend that he pushed away never got the message that he wanted just 1 person to really get to him before it was too late. As far as him actually making the video and doing it. Not confirmed or anything, but I feel like he was drunk or got drunk of the time to do what he did. I wish I got to NY a day earlier when I went over there, cause when I got there. It was 12 hours since he went missing and thats when I heard about it. But yeah. Thanks for saying all of this. From the moment I seen you on Etikas stream, I could tell that you were the real deal. PS: Eviscerate these toxic etika fans.
Your an honest and sincere individual with a heart of gold that’s why I subbed to you. I fully support you and all your endeavors. Keep the dream alive.
I thank you for clearing my vision and others. This really does help a lot of what happened and what hes been really going through I thank you and appreciate from the bottom of my heart even tho it dont mean much but you still have all my respects for making this video
U always spoke facts triforce glad i watched ur video because u really knew etika and most didn’t really know him u were a good friend to him and always tried to help him
Thanks for this video. It gave me closure, and made me upset because I feel it didn’t have to go this way. I feel like this was an ongoing battle. I wish I could’ve helped
I think I know exactly how Etika felt when dealing with the toxic community.I deal with those kinds of people on a regular basis and they can purposfully DESTROY your mental health and as you said in the video Triforce they are covert about too so they are tough to pick out.
The entire ordeal had me lost/confused and it was very dark and stormy. I didn't even want to play games any more after this transpired. Like the magic was gone. "Continue the mission" had an instantaneous effect on me. Completely turned me around. You can't be half pregnant. We've got work to do. Job's not over yet. Thank you TriForce.
Thanks Triforce, you really hit the nail on the head, I honestly didn't think Etika was mental from the way he was talking but everyone else and the news was saying he was and whenever I saw any of his recent reaction videos while I'm sure he was happy for each announcement the hype always felt more forced like he was trying out do himself but the honesty and charm of his original videos had gone and I would always wonder why, it's almost like you took what I was thinking and put it into words but with confirmation with what was going on behind the scenes
This video was very real. All of these other videos talking about Etika felt very fake and dishonest. They only talked about Etika the entertainer, but never about Desmond the person. They also pretended to know Etika since birth, while you were honest about your relationship with him. Unfortunately, his death attracted a lot of fakes that will use his name for clout. Thank you for not being one of those fakes. I aggree that social media culture is really bad for people's health. It's very easy to see how peer pressure and the need to impress certain people can hurt someone. First you have the pressure to become big, then you have the pressure to maintain that success. And success brings out the worst in negative fans, as they don't care about the entertainer. As long as they're entertained, nothing else matters to them, and nothing is worse than having your success be determined by people who don't care about you at all. It's unfortunate what happened to Etika.
I come back to this allot, I gotta thank you for being one of the only people who call Etika mentally ill. You speak the truth, I wish you best in life man.
Triforce you were completely right, honestly it hurts that he isn't here anymore and he was pressured by the toxic part of his community. Bless your soul for saying nothing but the truth.
I feel like my best friend has died even though I've never met the guy. Rest in peace my friend.
I literally can't relate more.
@@Elzaghir I still can't believe this, I still feel like it's just one of his jokes, my brain can't comprehend this feeling, I still wish this is just a nightmare... His mother omg his mother 😭
Same
I know how feel man
@@TariqYasiinProd I've never felt this way before. I really wish he would talk to me in my dreams or give a sign of forgiveness. But I can't help but feel likes that's not even possible.
Toxic fans are not Joycon Boyz
Facts
Yeah fuck em they fake
Facts my brother
They SNAKES
They’ll never realize the extent of their actions. Karma will find it’s way
TriForce, you're one of the realest people on the internet. You're a great strong and intelligent person. I wish you success and will keep supporting you and I believe what you say and so should the wider community. I hope you're doing okay after this tragic event and RIP Etika.
He's in denial too, like please show me the statistics for not mentally ill people who have killed themselves. Just cuz you are mentally ill don't make you crazy, his misunderstanding of this is the problem, depression is a mental illness.
Number 1: You don't have to be sane to realize you aren't sane.
226+ people are in denial.
(By the way, I've been a psychiatrist for five years as of next month, don't listen to some guy who hasn't studied psychiatry on mental health. Also I'm calling his bluff on saying he did study psychiatry )
No one could have helped him, when you reach that low of a point in your life ONLY you can pull yourself out, no one should blame themselves.
TH-cam is so full of grieving fans, I see people lashing out of sorrow and people all telling different sides and trying to figure out what went wrong and who to blame. No one is too blame, we all have our battles, some of us don't win..
@@nofriendzjustaname9337 i'm curious how long you've been a psychiatrist and how was your experience with patients like
Some say@@nofriendzjustaname9337is still gathering info on his patient's
I like how you were honest in stating that you weren't very close to Etika. Most youtubers out here are acting like they knew Etika since kindergarden while posting pictures of the one time they met him.
Well i no that gabe was dead in side the day it happened he says everything if you dont no who he is his yt is rsgabe i felt so bad for him
I think CND did a good thing taking a break. Him and etika shouldve dipped from social media. Social media is really ass man
So true!
Just imagine, Alex could have ended up the same way. I'm terrified at the thought we could easily lose so many people to this sickness of toxic media culture.
yea and it doesn't help that many platforms have their unfair strict censoring policies
@@theprocrastinator6813 very
But it was the way Etika paid his bills..
Bad influencers killed an man that just wanted to live playing video games and watch anime.....
man when you put it like this fuck man. this fucked up world humans make, make me so sad. I wish i can fix it.
Rahlow explain please
I don't mean to change topic but
Your mind is on another level.
Of all the talk about etika, you make the most sense. I always seem to get the best explanation or the truth of things from you...
And to play Tetris at the same tiiime
Like, how?
I'd freeze up or stutter every sentence
SliceySlicer he’s still spitting facts only haters aren’t woke by this mans words. Bitch.
@@SliceySlicer huh
So with the few moments where he actually messed up and asked "why did I do that?"
You still believe that it was prerecorded?
Come on now, pay attention.
Now, Say he wrote a script instead based on what other people say. He's putting everything together and informing those who don't know. A lot of Etika fans would come to him whenever something came up, so it only makes sense.
Idk what you have against him.
@@SliceySlicer U dumb racist bitch. No one needs to know English to show off their knowledge. It's one language out of many
SliceySlicer for a Jamaican his English is pretty good
goddamn
its been 4 years and i just found this video and wow
i hate that more people haven't seen this
and the way he puts it reminds me of a lot of dark places i've been and it makes sense now
triforce is a goddamn genius
god bless you triforce
Good video Triforce. It's a unfortunate situation all around.
You speaking facts Triforce
He's was pure pressured into a fake personality which people crave the nonsense. I love Etika because he put a smile on my face every time he uploaded or live broadcast. Etika was truly a light force that shine bright. Again rest well young Legend 🙏 and thank you Triforce for this video God bless you as Triforce
Nigga even said “im not gonna be Bozo or atleast try not to”
@@thehoonta5312 Jumping off a bridge is definitely not "easy"
@@thehoonta5312 that’s a poor way to put it
Des, he spoke to me a few times about you. His reasons for not chilling with you.
@sunbookishgamesx
So you understand how ridiculous it is for people to point fingers at triforce?
@@methodedge2484 I dont understand why anyone would point fingers at him its ridiculous
At least we, well...I now know more of the truth and I appreciate Triforce taking the time to address this.
sunsbookishgamesx the people we should be putting blame on is the toxic people in his live stream chats. He was trying to please everyone, but he couldn’t sadly.
What was his reasons?
And that's why I hate this current "meme-internet-culture".
They don't take things seriously, they just want to see what they like and never try to understand consequences of their own actions.
And what do we have at the end? The consequences, oh boy.
It's like at first the mass has an opinion which is indisputably right (that irony) and then they're wondering why some things happen afterwards.
It actually makes me really angry. But well... we have to move on :v
The whole meme culture on the internet is all about being entertained, despite the consequences or damage it can do.
You can't take anything personally on the internet or you will suffer
Definitely, if kids understood who they were and had more experience they'd understand that doing this is not appropriate. This situation needs to be talked about for years, and shouldn't be forgotten about, insensitive behavior isn't cool, nor is being edgy at the expense of others. If people keep blinding themselves from criticism by saying "It's satire." or "It's just a joke." when and where will we ever draw the line, on what is justified or not.
There's a lot of gaslighters on the internet, that lack true wisdom but have knowledge, wisdom in my opinion is the application of knowledge in a concrete and stable way. So many of these kids learn so much about all these different topics, and genres but never ever learn about themselves, what makes them tick or what they want in life. Hence why the suicide rates are going up as of recently.
Self love and self respect goes a long way in understanding how much your thoughts, words and actions can affect others, until people realize this and spread that awareness we won't fix the problem. For everyone in the comment section enraged by the Etika situation, turn that rage into love and spreading awareness. Don't watch or encourage bullying regardless of whose in the right or not.
Be there for your fellow man, your friends and your families. It's sad that it takes a death of someone who we didn't take seriously for everyone to wake up and realize cruelty isn't the answer, so I hope that people are more aware when you see red flags when someone is going through something, even if they're a TH-camr.
@@bruhyote132 dont know if yer calling me a dense bitch or saying that rhetorically..
You can lament toxic kids lack of respect all you want, but as long as the internet remains unfiltered, anonymous, and unchecked you change nothing. Toxic people will be toxic and they are here to stay.
Thats why im saying if you want to protect yourself, you cannot take anything personal on the internet. But judging from your name i assume thats very hard for you to do.
And that was one of etikas biggest flaws. He couldnt disconnect and disengage from the toxic people of the internet. The more he fed into them, the more he consumed himself.
Its effing retarded man...I dont mean to sound edgy but deadass...I'm almost glad Etika isn't here anymore. This fucking place SUCKS. Etika didnt deserve to be born in this world. A world where ppl use clown emojis to talk to a mentally Ill man who has stated so many times and even cried while doing so once that he loved us...and we respond with fucking clown emojis!?!?. We didnt deserve any of the amount of happiness that man gave us. I've seen so many comments about "oh hes in a better place" and whatever and yeah its cliche but the more I think about...the happier I get that he doesnt have to deal with this fucked up place we call earth.
@@LetsDiscussFR Yea especially with how divided everyone is and the 2020 election you know things will get alot worse from here. For gods sake people actually made jokes about the new Zealand mass shooting. AND some people support this random psychotic japanese girl for stabbing and killing the guy she was obsessed with.
Suicide isn’t an action.
Suicide is an disease of the mind, which took ETIKA’s life. He was mentally ill. He was not crazy. He was a philosopher. But social media drove him, to let his suicidal disease take over.
Thank you.
EmpireArcadia joy con boys
Suicide is literally an action. Depression is a mental illness, not suicide.
S L O T H you’re half right my dude. There’s a common mistake you hear now days, “Etika committed suicide.” It’s more accurate to say it was Death by suicide. Suicide is actually a disease of the mind. Like if I were to say Death by AIDS or something. You wouldn’t say Etika committed Aids. Also. You’re right. Severe Depression is also a mental illness that can lead to suicidal thoughts.
Simon Did you have to call him retarded? Jeez, man
The most understanding mature guy, thank you for clearing up the air triforce. Gonna miss etika rest in peace homie.
Damn Triforce was right! I'm looking at reddit right now and someone is definitely talking mess about Triforce for no reason as we speak! SMH😢
Send me the link please.
TwoDB Vibing yeah this is sad there’s people blaming him and some of the fans are toxic now I believe triforce when it was part of his toxic fan base or at least part of it
I don’t know what your talking about can someone explain
Triforce has always been a person, who consistenly speaks the truth! Whenever he does an evisceration video, or any video, where he talks about a certain subject, he always does his research prior. Triforce's speeches and the sureness of his voice are honestly inspiring to me!
@@karlhnedkovsky5214 Honestly, I only wished he didn't state that Etika is not suffering from a mental illness, that's pure deniability of the truth. By not addressing Etika suffering from a mental illness you're not spreading the awareness it needs and is the exact reason Etika why had gone through what he did. He most likely suffered from a hereditary mental illness or some type of bipolar disorder, but TriForce still continues to avoid that truth. Which is why it's hard for me to take his message seriously even though he is speaking about very important things that has definitely been going on.
Don't get me wrong I don't dislike TriForce I just dislike his way of speaking about mental illness like it's not a thing. The more we pretend Etika was normal and had no mental health problems the more we won't be able to see the red flags when another situation like this ever happens. Mental health is real and should never be swept under the rug or be not taken seriously.
Totally makes sense, I remember watching him downing a bottle of alcohol and breaking a light bulb over his head in one of his streams
Pluggedcloud all that for him to keep himself afloat...very sad
That lightbulb clip was funny af, but yeah that alcohol shit was getting ridiculous
I needed to hear this. Thank you Triforce. You said a lot of things that everybody knew and were trying to run from. Thank you for what you were to Etika, and the stories you shared. From now on you have my support, as a person, as a creator, and so do all of the causes you work for. JOYCONBOYZ🖤
A lot of what I do is what Etika was into and that is why I was trying to collaborate with him. However, dark forces knew and tried to keep him from connecting with me. The same with his brother etc. They got to keep "people" like us separated. To be honest with you, I'm going to make a stream and speak on this... stay tuned.
@@EmpireArcadia Cannot wait!
This is starting to make a lot of sense now... this is why Etika was apologizing in the last video for “pushing everyone away”
In retrospect you did literally ALL you could do while still respecting the mans grind and being in Jamaica.
Whatever you said is 100% facts man. I never liked Etika's chat, especially the regular chat. Even the replies on his twitter.
It's like every time he got a donation to do some crazy shit, he seemed super hesitant because he knows it isn't good for him.
JoyconBoyz Forever.
May his soul rest in peace.
I don't know what alternate universe you where watching bro. that dude went in out of no where. I remember when he randomly started busting light bulbs on his head, and I was like WHAT THE F BRO!?
Thank you so much for the explanation Triforce. The whole situation was very confusing to me from your video last month I believe, but now this makes more sense. I'm sorry for the hate you've been getting and I hope you can cope with this loss. Continue the mission and godspeed brother.
You're very real Triforce.
Thank you for making this video and explaining all the confusion. I've been so scared and confused since he started getting so under pressure. I'm very shocked and sad that he took his own life. Again, thank you so much for talking about the truth.
TriForce, you are such a real Individual. Thanks for your words. At the end of the day we have to stay strong and still trying to reach our goals. Like you beautifully said in your tribute-video to continue the fight. The Madness nowadays is real, the negativity literally eats up individuals. Wishing you success at your Mission.
I know your words are completely true.
I was one of the few unheard people that even though I could never donate I would ALWAYS say in chat to all the people that donated to STOP because he would keep drinking and smoking something and all that. But few of us did that.
The big donation dudes kept this fucking madness going.
And ABSOLUTELY YES. HE WAS NOT MENTALLY ILL!!!! IT WAS ALL FUCKING PEER PRESURE THAT DROVE HIM TO THE EDGE.
FUCK ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO KEPT TELLING HIM TO DRINK, TO GO CRAZY, TO SAY TO HIM THAT HE WAS A FUCKING CLOWN. BECAUSE OF YOU WE LOST HIM.
FUCK.
Triforce, I thank you for voicing this. You could not be any more correct.
Etika will be forever missed.
You are a true angel, and if only more people did what you've done, Etika would still be with us. But we shouldn't think like that anymore. We should hope he is in a better place, and keep him and what happened in mind to prevent these things from happening again. I pray for our society to improve 🙏
Thank you for giving us closure
Triforce, you have my full respect bro. Man I totally understand everything you're saying. Bro your insight to this whole thing has given me real closure. Bless you man.
Thanks for this Triforce, I appreciate you talking about this and opening up about the truth so that ignorant people can understand and not make false accusations and assumptions.
Damn Triforce i was waiting for you to speak....and you have spoken! I can always count on you to speak the truth for our people with no filter and the FACTZ 👌💯to me you have always been bigger than TH-cam and are a leader to my people....thanks for the video for those that needed clarification on this matter...RIP to Etika and all those that have fallen.
I shared similar sentiments to what you had. Always felt the "help" his friends were trying to force on him was doing more harm than good. Imagine having police bust in your house, forcibly restrain you, parade you on the street and ship you to a mental ward. How humiliating and stress-inducing! Even though people used etika to promote "mental health"; who likes being labeled mentally ill!? Especially from your friends and loved ones. Now you wouldn't even feel like seeking comfort and help among friends because they would just label you ill and send you to the funny farm again. Then above all this he has to worry about maintaining his image for streaming to make a living. That's an extreme amount of pressure and anxiety to live with.
When I first saw his bizarre posts and breakdown, rather than mental illness it looked more like an extreme way of venting a lot of pent up stress and shit in his life.
And now after hes dead friends and fans are flooding the internet with tributes and love; something that could've been way more help or potentially saved him while he was alive. I definitely agree with you that he needed a better circle of people who could truly support and ground him during his anxieties, instead of having people call the cops on you and send you to the mental ward, where most of times you will just be put on a strict diet and on meds. Shame he could not receive the help he really needed.
This is why we need more people like you. Real facts.
Regardless of what happens, I, and all others will have your back.
Thank you TriForce for always being real man..People dont understand but i can see through the b.s. and when i seen your vids you always showed you had love for him.. I never once seen your content as a negative influence..& Thank You for genuinely caring about Etika and for being a true friend..I appreciate it💯
Man Triforce is a good human being and speaks a lot of sense. He thinks before he speaks and this is lacking in today's world, RIP Etika.
Everyone needs to see this
I's hard to be good in this world when you have evil people out there that doesn't want to see someone prosper people are messed up i always thought Etika's toxic fanbase messed him up
Etika did it to himself
@@redcrimson1028 To be honest it all started with someone telling him he should start making videos because he was entertaining. He went with it, but what could have happened if he didn't do it? We may have had Etika alive but he would've been a whole lot different that we woudnt have recognized him.
@@theprocrastinator6813 he wouldve been alive and mabye his channel wouldve been as good as some of these other guys who has way better channels than him. For example obe1 channel is miles better than his, player essesnce, rgt review tech usa is miles ahead of etika. Social media is overrated poision and nonsense. This generation is dumbed down people cant think for themselevs and you are lost when u need other people's approval and you see where it got him. Theres an old saying, if someone jumps off the bridge are you going to jump off too? Too many opinionated people in this world who doesnt believe in god, thinks they are god that needs the approval of people this generstion of youths/people are dumbed down. Why you think i dont put stock into my channel? Its because i dont have the time, i'm too busy doing bigger and better things. Even though i'm one of thebmost hardcore gamer out there( more so than even a lot of guys who has channels dedicated to video games which i find funny lol) I'm an Artist and an entrepreneur business man I DONT HAVE THE TIME to waste on putting content on youtube for people who doesnt give a shit about me in the end. In the end those people didnt give a shit sbout etika, hell erika didnt care about himself as far as i could see becsuse if he was smart he wouldve seen that social media is BS and is wqs killing him slowly. My career and my family are more important than social media. Everyday there is some more that messages me about their stupid opinion and tries to oush it off as fact where as in reality they dont even know what they are talking about and the facts in reality says other wise. They are a lot of dumb people in america that makes other people's opinions control their lives and cant think for themselves. Fuck TH-cam and the people on it. Peace.
@@redcrimson1028 Amen dude, amen.
He did say he was not suicidal until that video and how you explained makes sense to me
Yeah, I agree. I think people should watch TriForce Video then Etika's last video. It makes sense to me.
Then reflect on it.
@@raphtalia2727 👏😔
RESPECT Triforce! I felt the same about it. He was fighting a battle against his TH-cam self. The side that was making him ends to survive. So in the end he had only one choice. Real Sad!
14:39 sounds like Etika am I going crazy???
This video needs to get sent around, you make the most sense out of everyone
I'm just now starting to realize just how similar this whole situation is to dave chappele's situation
As someone with chronic depression who has been suicidal, I am well aware that I am ill, and being aware does not make me any less ill. Being aware of my PTSD does not make it go away. Being aware of my spinal subluxation does not make my back become straight.
That's the only flaw I see here in the video, the idea that awareness somehow means health.
Anna Cark More and more we notice how much things that seems unrelated such as nutrition and sleep affect mental health. I truly believe there is no one just born « depressed ». Evolution would have made it that your weak depressive genes would have had disappear.
I think that both Etika’s environnement of New York, constant drinking and having a shitty diet of twizzlers and cheap spaghetti sauce cans contributed to his ability to see clear. Which much have caused more anxiety and pushed him toward pushing others away.
@@RyutaaKuzunoha you can be born depressed, and not really depressed, but that your brain doesn't make enough of the chemicals. Mental illness is just that, an illness. For some people you can treat it and it goes away. Others it stays forever. Some develop it, some are born with it. It doesn't matter how.
I don't think Desmond had chronic depression. I think it was a product of habits, his environment, and the toxicity of his fanbase, and him pushing away the people who really cared about him and were concerned. Evolution doesn't counter depressive genes. Depression is a mental illness, an anomaly. It occurs spontaneously, at random. Evolution cannot combat that. Same with cancer, tumors, etc. All these things have existed since humans, and evolution cannot combat them. They evolve along with people.
Anna Cark I absolutely don’t want to make light of your situation or his. However ever since I started questioning and looking up what caused my own chronic illness and why I had no real joy in my life. I discovered that a metric ton of woes are caused by the first world we live in.
If the hypothesis of (Some people just are born with depression) would be true. You’d see permanently depressed people in aboriginal tribes. You won’t find them. The main reason being they don’t eat any processed sugary food. Also they eat a ton of meat.
Furthermore. Depression being related to low serotonin or dopamine production in the brain is purely an hypothesis. « Chemical imbalance » causing chronic depression is merely a claim.
You don’t have to be a victim. Your depression or any other illness MUST not define who you are. Believe in your body’s power to heal by itself.
If anyone know someone with depression or have depression themselves. You must stop listening to doctors and take health into your own hands.
A few good way to start would be to look up some of these terms on TH-cam. Such as:
•Dr.Bergman depression
•Snake Diet
•Carnivore Diet
Thank you for your perspective. I saw a few of Etika's videos in the past (didn't watch his live streams), and I loved his reactions to seeing some new games, and just being excited over things I loved too. He had a genuine passion for things, and it showed. I may have been a true fan of his had I followed him more. I don't know what difference it would have made, if any, but now I miss him. I certainly wish things didn't turn out the way things did, as he did not deserve this. It sounds like there were some genuine fans of both you and Etika that would have loved to see some kind of collaboration. I never saw Etika as some clown, but someone with a lot of heart. RIP, Etika.
This is exactly what I was looking for, it really all makes sense now seeing how even in his most apparent "mental breakdown"s he still seemed like he was levelheaded enough.
If there is a common factor in cause of suicide it must be the feeling of truly being cornered, when you really have tried everything and it all leads to the same outcome
I respect you a lot for this Triforce. Thank you for telling the truth about Etika.
Hello Im from Guatemala, I am 30 years old. Learned NLP and have studied body language for more than 10 years. I just want to tell you that in his videos, the internal conflict matches the description you give. And of course only experience is capable of knowing this, like you said, he was deeply influenced. The problem is that he wanted to be influenced by them simply because he wanted to maintain his lifestyle. In spanish we have a phrase that says "Dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres" which can be tranlated to "Tell me who are you surrounded with and I will tell you who you are". “You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.”
As Darren Hardy writes in The Compound Effect:
“According to research by social psychologist Dr. David McClelland of Harvard, [the people you habitually associate with] determine as much as 95 percent of your success or failure in life.” I would like the NYPC to do a deep search of his social media influence. But I guess I am not any relative or so. One thing is for sure... He inspired me and I use to watch him for dozens of hours because I admired him a lot.
I admire this
I had been thinking about those people that only encourage him. I really felt that Etika didn't have any illness and hearing you say all of this only reassures me. Etika said so himself, he only wanted to protect his image and doing so made him choose many wrong decisions. However, he emphasized how the media can mess people up. Thank you TriForce, Etika was my favorite TH-camr and hearing this was just what a fan like me needed.
This video needs to be shared with everyone. THIS right here, these words from this wonderful gentleman, need to be spread through the entire social media network. I am so glad i watched this video and now understand to the fullest extent. Thank you Triforce. You gave us the answers and closure we were looking for. If only he took you up on that offer to go to Africa man... Much love and respect to you and your mission ✊ much to love to Desmonds family. And definitely so much love to the Nintendo bad boy himself. Joycon Boyz FOREVER. Rest in paradise my friend.
Thank you for your insight. I still can't believe he's gone...
It always absolutely baffled me how people kept saying Etika was “mentally ill”. Every time he did his “crazy” tweets, it was always clear to me that Etika was simply talking to himself out loud. I KNEW that at some point, Etika will eventually break because of all the ridiculous “mentally ill” and “clown” BS he was getting.
To me, he always seemed as an incredibly strong person, mentally and emotionally. But at the end of the day, he’s a human being, he can only handle so much.
This outcome, is absolutely heartbreaking, yet, somehow, it was very clear something disastrous was going to happen because of all the crap those toxic, blind idiots were doing to him.
Thank you TriForce for always being the voice of reason, realism, and TRUTH. Wish I could like this video a thousand times over.
Rest In Peace, both Desmond & Etika, absolute legends.
Your post is well-intentioned but screams ignorance towards mental illness. It’s not about being strong, it’s about chemical imbalances going on in the brain. Etika displayed many strong signs of bipolar disorder, even during the good times, and I think even Alice had confirmed it at one point. Honestly, Etika’s fanbase was toxic as fuck and there’s no doubt the income thing got to him (I actually made a post about that angle somewhere else). Still, stress is a main factor in people developing mental illness in the first place.
I feel horrible for Etika and TriForce because of the peer-pressure kiddie shit mentality that has taken over these influencer cliques. Having mental illness is not something that should be lumped in with the clown shit; it’s not something that should be ashamed of. All that does is further add to the stigma.
This cleared up so much for me thank you so much triforce
moral of the story(as cliche as this sounds)
sometimes the greatest enemy is yourself. When you claim to have "friends" like etika's fanbase.
You know what they say, "who needs enemies with friends like you."
Money is the root of evil
Thank you for the clarity Empire! I completely relate to the whole thing of traveling to your true land of your heritage. Whenever I visit Mexico, a part where technology is really irrelevant to live a fun life it brings new meaning to how I understand the world and helps me vent my stress knowing that when things get rough there is a place where I know I can get away to escape from stress.
I've seen these kinds of people in his community. Even on discord. They had no sense in reality. Absolutely none. To them that all was a game. Spraying insults and clown emotes around, calling "nibba be dead" or other disgusting slurs in the chat, on discord or on twitter. This is a problem, not only in Etikas community but in general.
Please listen: Every word you say, every word you write has WEIGHT on it - has an impact on other people - just because you don't see them personally doesn't mean that it won't hurt them.
Please - even if you enraged - take a moment before you type furiously words on your keyboard atleast sometimes.
I'm so unbelieveably heartbroken about this whole situation, but i think that makes sense. Maybe i'm not agreeing to all of it, but i believe you, since you knew him in person - even talked to him and i don't.
Thank you for your statement to all of this Triforce. I hope you're doin well!
Joyconboyz forever.
woah this is a bigger rabbit hole than i thought
"These guys are so evil" darn straight friend. Peace to your soul and your life.
Being in my 20s was the hardest for me I really hope some ppl learn not to push TH-camrs too far and pressure them to upload everyday or whatever it is these toxic ppl want. All that does is make ppl depressed and confused. I knew what you meant in the video.
I definitely was curious why during this time some of what I thought were his close friends not talking to him publicly and this explains a lot. I still remember your guys' stream together and it was so much fun to watch you guys interact almost in synch with each other. I'm sorry it got to this, I'm glad I know more regarding Desmonds darker side of his fanbase. This whole thing has gotten really dark and murky I knew it was only a matter of time before someone started trying to turn it around and weaponize our support for Etika to attack those they don't like. I wish I knew who it was so I could be wary/oust these people but I just want to give Etika and his name time to rest first.
I wish you boundless energy for your mission and keeping steady in these hard times man.
Thank you, TriForce. This is the truth as I know it too, after the multiple discussions I had with him last year prior to shit hitting the fan in October. He was overworked and under-appreciated by the influx of volatile followers that just saw him as a dancing clown. I wish it hadn't come to this on any front, but I implore people to understand this wasn't an issue of mental illness, but the nature of internet celebrity and becoming attached to your career and your audience so much that it is a detriment to your overall health.
To him it was his life , he believed that if he doesnt have that anymore, then he has nothing left... He reached a point where he didnt know what to do with himself anymore and thats when he made that choice.
I agree with a lot of what this video says, but I also want to clarify what others in the comments have already said before; Mental illness isn't synonymous to insanity. The definition on this video is misunderstood. The pressure and stress on Etika to live and the expectations he felt like he had to live up to was already a sign of his mental wellness. Being conscious of your mental health doesnt equate to being mentally well. As someone who experienced depression myself, you can still be completely rational and conscious of your mental state and still be prone to suicidal thoughts.
I feel this needed to be said again because people need to realize that mental illness is not and should not be a label for people with raw insanity, but for people with unhealthy thoughts, ideas, and behaviors that affects their livelihood. Etika was definitely not mentally well and I don't think it's right to dismiss that. His life on youtube and social media was just a big contributor to it.
You're actually wrong on that, it's exactly because of reason of opening up the terminology of mental illness that problems like these exist.
Etika's mental health was bad but he was not mentally ill, there is _and should be_ a huge distinction between the two.
Mental illness something is constant something that doesn't get fixed or go away because at the end of the day when you have a mental illness, something is wrong with you, you are permanently broken.
I have depression and anxiety, I also have unhelpful thinking habits. But the unhelpful thinking habits aren't specific to me, anyone can have unhelpful thinking habits, but the difference between me being depressed and a normal person is that they are not constantly prone to having their thought pattern be that way whereas I am. When they do it, it's a sign of bad mental health, not because they are mentally ill. When I do it it's because I am mentally ill and so I constantly have bad mental health.
Etika's issue was situational, that's why all this talk of "he's mental ill" never worked with him, he was in a bad place mentally for sure but just because you're in a bad place mentally doesn't mean you're mentally ill.
The real problems are the after effect of the romanticism of mental health issues and the sickness that is social media.
@@helko1 who's to say that it wasn't a constant for etika? Being prone to a thought pattern doesn't mean it always has to be visible.
Who's to say he didn't have these constant thoughts for a long time and nobody knew about it?
I agree that social media is a problem, but I also believe that it contributes to mental illness and bad mental health in conjunction.
@@helko1 I do acknowledge that bad mental health and mental illness are two different things though. But in the case of Etika it could be either or.
Like I mentioned, nobody can say for certain that Etika never harbored these kinds of dark thoughts constantly for a long time, or if it was a "situational" thing like you mentioned. (before anyone mentions that Etika said himself he had no intention of killing himself before his final video, that doesn't exclude the possibility of him ever THINKING ABOUT IT.)
But it needs to be understood anyway that MENTAL ILLNESS specifically is not synonymous to INSANE or CRAZY.
I don't know the details about what was going on in his life but I know for a fact that what you're speaking is the truth. His last message was very clear and I think only those people who either knew him personally or was a long time viewer actually heard what he was saying.
Excellent observation.
Nearly a year later and I still miss him to death.. Rest In Peace 💙 ☁️ Joycon Bois for life 💪
Thank you for you perspective and shining a light on a horrible situation.
That's how live streaming is, people want to see content at any cost, most people that watch live stream turn rabid and will only donate when you commit extreme or foolish acts and then they bully you when you do something they don't like, I know many streamers that are currently being bullied by their own community and are in depression.
Everything Triforce said made me realized everything i felt in my gut about Etika's situation was true and i am truly pissed off that had to had a major effect on him and eventually lead to his death. Much respect Triforce, this was a much needed video to be watched and hope many more watch this so they can have a better understanding on the matter.
Thanks for bringing insight into the situation. It helped shed some light on where his mind was, even just a little bit and what kind of pressure led him to what happened.
I really wish there were people who could have helped him and been there for him. I know he could have gone passed this like he had before. Still doesn't feel real.. R.I.P
the YT algorithm brought me here, thank you YT algorithm. Triforce this was a very nice talk and nice Gameplay in the background.
This explains everything, this is crazy bro.
As much as I loved etika...he was never in control of his own life. He was an accessory to his fan base. He made a conscious decision at some point that he was in it for the money...and thats why he was so willing to destroy his own body and mentality, because those were the least important things to him. He was more concerned about making money off his fans than actually being happy. Ive been homeless, and i got out...but id 100% go back to living on the streets, if it meant i could keep my own mind. Etika should have moved to the country and became a farmer...hed still be here. But he didnt yet know what he wanted from life, and he was lost. I have had friends commit suicide, and it was always for the same reason "they couldnt see the real solutions to their problems". Suicide fixes nothing, it just shifts responsibility...
I never heard of triforce until now, but this was a beautiful video and has given me a lot of insight and a better understanding of the whole situation, thank you.
You made sense triforce. I believe you. It makes total sense
all of it makes sense now, makes this whole situation even sadder. RIP Etika
I understood Etika deleting his original channel because of management but the second channel EtikaFRFX I was genuinely surprised.
I miss him so much. I don't know him as a person but it frasturates me that nobody could save him. I miss you so much
Still coming back, man I miss him. Thought exactly what you describe, from the first time I felt the people who put him down. I remember early on just showed a friend one of my favorite content of Desmond. My friend was immediately like he clown... I was irritated as hell. He was just so positive and real. I felt the toxic shit must be so irritating for him, why people? Why do yo feel so much need to put guys like Desmond down the first second you see him. My friend did not know him at that time. And it’s not a friend of mine anymore. Don’t need people who are so blind to see. How much pressure Des and others have to take just because there is stupid apathetic narcissistic people out there like it’s medieval times. It is unfortunate. I wish Etika could be there with you and get over that shit. But it’s heartbreaking just another great spirit now gone to early. Much love. You are always in company. R.I.P. Desmond you changed my life. The mission clear in sight, stronger with every tear that falls down my screaming face. You made us all and this Real. He saved so many. World doesn’t even know. He was the difference. Expect him. And you who reads this we could be friends too. Consider it.
Rest well ETIKA you are truly missed ♥️
I hear ya and I know what you are saying is 100%
If you lived on New York, I bet you could have saved him, regardless of what these toxic people said about you. You would of been the one. Every other friend that he pushed away never got the message that he wanted just 1 person to really get to him before it was too late.
As far as him actually making the video and doing it. Not confirmed or anything, but I feel like he was drunk or got drunk of the time to do what he did. I wish I got to NY a day earlier when I went over there, cause when I got there. It was 12 hours since he went missing and thats when I heard about it.
But yeah. Thanks for saying all of this. From the moment I seen you on Etikas stream, I could tell that you were the real deal.
PS: Eviscerate these toxic etika fans.
🙏🏾❤️ Peace and love to you man ✊🏽.
THE TRUTH BEEN HERE ALL THIS TIME. TRIFORCE KNEW WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING. IT WAS THE PRESSURE. Thank you Triforce.
Fax some people never want to see a man eat.
your a good man Tri force
This sucks. I feel like if Etika opened up about his depression and toke a break we would all support him and send donations. I just wish he got help.
Nah sadly, he'd get called a clown. His loudest audience didnt care for him at all
@@infinitezion2029 That is saddening. I was a casual viewer of his streams so i guess i missed out of the toxic comments.
I hope you’re doing okay
Your an honest and sincere individual with a heart of gold that’s why I subbed to you. I fully support you and all your endeavors. Keep the dream alive.
This is a very lighthearted lift that you don't understand but thank you!
Thank you Triforce
Etikas in a better place now and I feel that he’s still with us.
I thank you for clearing my vision and others. This really does help a lot of what happened and what hes been really going through I thank you and appreciate from the bottom of my heart even tho it dont mean much but you still have all my respects for making this video
U always spoke facts triforce glad i watched ur video because u really knew etika and most didn’t really know him u were a good friend to him and always tried to help him
Thank you so much for this video i'm finally fully understood / comperhand now.
Very good informative video put together triforce! This deserves more attention
Thanks for this video. It gave me closure, and made me upset because I feel it didn’t have to go this way. I feel like this was an ongoing battle. I wish I could’ve helped
Holy shit this is deep. Respects to you good sir!
I think I know exactly how Etika felt when dealing with the toxic community.I deal with those kinds of people on a regular basis and they can purposfully DESTROY your mental health and as you said in the video Triforce they are covert about too so they are tough to pick out.
The entire ordeal had me lost/confused and it was very dark and stormy. I didn't even want to play games any more after this transpired. Like the magic was gone. "Continue the mission" had an instantaneous effect on me. Completely turned me around. You can't be half pregnant. We've got work to do. Job's not over yet. Thank you TriForce.
Keep up the good work EmpireArcadia! Maintain the awesome support group/team of people
Thanks Triforce, you really hit the nail on the head, I honestly didn't think Etika was mental from the way he was talking but everyone else and the news was saying he was and whenever I saw any of his recent reaction videos while I'm sure he was happy for each announcement the hype always felt more forced like he was trying out do himself but the honesty and charm of his original videos had gone and I would always wonder why, it's almost like you took what I was thinking and put it into words but with confirmation with what was going on behind the scenes
This video was very real. All of these other videos talking about Etika felt very fake and dishonest. They only talked about Etika the entertainer, but never about Desmond the person. They also pretended to know Etika since birth, while you were honest about your relationship with him. Unfortunately, his death attracted a lot of fakes that will use his name for clout. Thank you for not being one of those fakes.
I aggree that social media culture is really bad for people's health. It's very easy to see how peer pressure and the need to impress certain people can hurt someone. First you have the pressure to become big, then you have the pressure to maintain that success. And success brings out the worst in negative fans, as they don't care about the entertainer. As long as they're entertained, nothing else matters to them, and nothing is worse than having your success be determined by people who don't care about you at all. It's unfortunate what happened to Etika.
I come back to this allot, I gotta thank you for being one of the only people who call Etika mentally ill. You speak the truth, I wish you best in life man.
I dont get why ppl hate triforce so much, hes one of the few honest ppl in the nintendo youtuber circle.
Btw love your streams bro, keep it up!
Triforce you were completely right, honestly it hurts that he isn't here anymore and he was pressured by the toxic part of his community. Bless your soul for saying nothing but the truth.
Man I wasnt ready for all this, people really be dying in the moments you expect the less
Thanks dude, I always wanted you to grow and I appreciate your perspective on the matter. So glad he was in our lives.
ty for this video, I think this gives me all the right thoughts for me to move on. Wish you all the best