Dude, I knew nothing about NAS a week ago. Your content basically guided me toward my first purchase with so much more confidence. I hope every first NAS buyer watch your content. Keep up the incredibly good work 🙌
Interesting tip for some is that if you're looking to spend the money on the 262 have a look at the 462 as well, the 4 bay model. As the price of these two might be pretty close. The 20 bucks extra(430 vs 410 in my case) could be worth the 2 extra bays (and it should have upgradable ram). I'm not sure which one to go for yet, but I happen to notice it while browsing,
Thanks for the great video. One question that keeps me puzzled (and possibly many other viewers), however, is which of those two devices provides a faster experience. Particularly, you describe on the one hand that Ts262 is much better hardware and therefore faster operation, but on the other hand you state that due to the software the ds224+ would run faster and provides a smoother experience. Could you explain a bit which device provides the faster or snappier operations ? For my case, the NAS will be used for backing up and watching/streaming my many photos and 4k videos in the mobile phone app. My current ts233 fails to provide a stable and fast experience for these basic things (some apps don't function and it's annoyingly slow in thumbnail generation and file opening speed). Thanks!
Way too much technical comments for those of us who are trying to get away from multiple external drives. I would like to find a NAS Video for dummies.
Although it's not officially supported according to Synology, I understood that you can expand the memory of the DS224+ with 16GB to 18GB in total. That's a huge advantage compared to the QNAP I would say. But as you mentioned in the video, only the expansion of 4GB is officially supported.
I like the pc v console analogy. it explains quite a bit. And i was a pc builder and gamed a lot on a pc but as i got older i ended up a console player and i can see the huge benefit of things just working without me having to understand how to flash my bios chip or even know what a bios chip does. that being said i want things how i want them and when so i like customization as an option. For example i use my iphone to store all my music locally just like i did with mp3s and an ipod. Ipods order files in long texts lists which is great if you have several hundred artists and songs etc. But apple changed their app so it had cover art, often only 4 to a screen. Meaning it took ages to find things scrolling 4 at a time when it used to scroll 10 or 15 artists per page. And also it's organized by album and in a world of singles i don't know allthe albums on site and i also don't ever search by album. I might know an artists and a song. But not the album it was on. But either way i'd like to be able to reorganize the how it navigates. and i ended up buyiing a third party music player "CS music" that had that feature. So yeah customization is an important consideraation. And until they went away from celeron i was all in on Synology.
I was also surprise to find that. Beside having to tear the warranty sticker on the first module, I’m now running mine with 32gb which allow VM to run very well.
Your videos are very nice, thanks. A suggestion would be to compare the applications capabilities in both NAS. I want to buy a NAS with a better hardware because Synology is really bothering me leaving 2.5Gbps out of the table.. I would like to know about usb-copy, rsync, snapshot replication, if Asustor or QNAP are able to fulfill my requirements at the app and functionality levels. Thanks.
I was thinking your comparison on software bundles more than just "storage". I think it would be better to split out storage (you know, the S in NAS) and just compare the software on storage. That would be a better NAS comparison. Then add in all the other stuff for people who want the NAS to do all that other stuff. I was looking for storage only and I think you over emphasised Synology for other reasons, justified if you want those other things, but not a fair comparison as a NAS
I miss the discussion of the Android Apps. I struggled in my decision and I was short before to buy a qnap. Now I will get a Synology. I am a programmer, and I know enough about all those stuff. But finally I want to work with it. Want to use the Apps and mobile devices. So the final decision is no pro Synology
nice, now I really have no idea which one I should buy 😅 I love comparison ending with "buy this, the other is shit", that's my definition of "useful comparison" 😂
RAM is no longer soldered in on the TS-262 units. I just bought one and swapped the 4GB out for 2 x 8gb sticks and now have 16GB of RAM on a $280 dollar NAS.
As always great video. I would go with Synology as I am old Synology user, Wondering what 2.5gbe USB ethernet dongles are compatible with Synology DS216+II?
Nice video, but I missed these two things: 1. How easily is to change the Hard drives in both systems? I saw somewhere in your video that the QNAP can be easily opened from the front and then extract them; however, it is not clear how this is done for the Synology; hopefully, you don't have two screw something 2. How loud are each of them. This is really important if you are planning to do home office.
I have a ds220+ you just slide then out the front and they have no screws sound is minimal I had mine on my desk right next to me and never bothered me
Thank you for the very informative videos. Im interested in a beginner NAS setup. Im always running out of storage and I would prefer to manage my own cloud instead of paying monthly service fees. The data I will be storing are mainly pictures and videos taken from our mobile devices from many years ago. I can't decide between Synology or Qnap or WD. I know they have their own faults and I recently watched your video about WD cloud ultra being hacked. In your honest opinion, what would be the safest bet for less vulnerability of data from hackers? Should i just stick with a desktop attached storage? I would like to have the ability to access my files on the go which is why im opting for a NAS setup. But terrified of my data being hacked. Also, Is there a way to setup an auto backup from a personal NAS to an external storage HDD? Thanks in advance.
Both have problems with upgrading RAM. Synology has 1 memory slot up to 4 GB (if you're lucky, maybe 8 GB). And for QNAP the memory is completely soldered without an additional slot. The only thing QNAP has is HDMI and 2x m2 slot very very sad NAS series for upgrade (((((((((((((((((((
Please see other comments here - people seem to have successfully installed 16 GB modules into DS224+, and newer editions of TS-262 come with 2 upgradeable slots.
I will be updating my QNAP TS-221 old NAS and wondered if when using Netbak Replicator to back up my PC to the NAS rear USB Drive, if NetBak process very hungry on the NAS CPU resources like my old NAS is. What is the Synology App like for backing up a PC to the NAS? Can it do Incremental?
Hello, thank you so much for the review. One question regarding the Asustor AS5402T, is the nvme restricted in them or can we use any brand we like? Thank you
Been watching your videos a lot lately. Been debating the diy vs turnkey options for awhile to replace my aging Netgear readynas. Is there anything diy that can touch a 12 bay option with expansion like the DS3622xs+ ? I like the form factor and efficiency, but not the cost, Yikes. For a DIY to entice me it would need to be at least $1000 to $1500 less for similar spec.
Im a totally beginner in NAS and am planning to store all personal and family photos. I was planning to get the Synology DS223J but was looking at the DS224+, as well as a QNAP option. I will only use it for personal purposes and work exclusively on Mac (and mostly on iPad). So my request for an advice is which model would you recommend, considering I don’t want to break a bank. Thanks
Wait a min, why not just buy a mini pc with a ryzen 5600u for 250 bucks and a HDD enclosure and make your own file /plex server with 2 - 3 x graphically and computational performance?
if you do not care about power consumption and installed NAS software, then why not. But if you need low idle power consumption, stable NAS software with security patches, and mobile apps for photo backup, then you start to care...
Unfortunately, we (me and Ed) probably can't. Aside from us having a pretty dense to-do list to get through, we try to make videos based on demand. Even at a video per day, there's a massive list of ideas and suggestions to get through. I'd recommend adding it to the user poll on the NASCompares home page and see if it gets votes for. Cheers for watching dude and have a great weekend
HI Mate A little Off topic I know BUT :) i'm kinda new to all this. Mate when i'm wondering Can I run a PLEX Nas Server and a Home Cloud for backing up phones "Wife's 1000000000 pics" lol and kids phones on the same NAS ? If so what would be a Great NAS for me to BUY. I'm willing to spend around the $1000.00 to $500 AUD Mark.
For that you can use synology ds223j, is cheaper and it does the job, if you don't have a capable smartphone and you need a lower resolution like 720p which needs transcoding then chose ds224+ or ds220+ second hand. Transcoding is used when you don't have a capable tv or smartphone and can't watch 4k movies and you need a lower resolution
I have the DS224+. The fan noise is very little on the quiet setting and I don't see the need for higher settings. Most of the noise comes from the hard drives.
This is not strange at all. I think is a fair question if you plan to use it on a home office. I came also here to see if there is any answer on the video, but unfortunately there isn't. Now, I saw the other replies talking about setting the fan to a quiet mode on the Synology, but does the QNAP also supports this?
Quite the oversight, unfortunately. The same for power consumption. It's a device which will be running 24/7 for multiple years. I'd also like to know whether fans can be replaced.
If the QNAP is dual-core, why does the graphic say quad-core? The simple truth is that the J4125 eclipses the J4505 on multi-core tasks. Another disingenuous review? Facts matter, mate.
you've got a global reaching channel and you're still talking "nickers and quids".. time to grow up don't you think? US dollars will give people a better understanding of the value globally, despite I'm not American unfortunately they're the global currency currency
Or you can just accept that there are other countries besides USA and that those countries speak english their own way. Also, why would he use dollars if he is in Great Britain, which uses pounds (quid)? #thisistheinternetnotamerica
@@JoakimSiegers it just sound cringe and that crappy British accent is hard to understand.. but that's just part on the chaotic video he produces (and too many apparently, in order to feed YT algorithm)
@@tyyuuuihycyctct English is my third language, and his english is pretty clear, but no worries, we have all been there, with time you will get better :)
Dude, I knew nothing about NAS a week ago. Your content basically guided me toward my first purchase with so much more confidence. I hope every first NAS buyer watch your content. Keep up the incredibly good work 🙌
Which model are you buying?
@@marekszymanski5367 got the QNAP TS-262!
Interesting tip for some is that if you're looking to spend the money on the 262 have a look at the 462 as well, the 4 bay model. As the price of these two might be pretty close. The 20 bucks extra(430 vs 410 in my case) could be worth the 2 extra bays (and it should have upgradable ram). I'm not sure which one to go for yet, but I happen to notice it while browsing,
Thanks for the great video. One question that keeps me puzzled (and possibly many other viewers), however, is which of those two devices provides a faster experience. Particularly, you describe on the one hand that Ts262 is much better hardware and therefore faster operation, but on the other hand you state that due to the software the ds224+ would run faster and provides a smoother experience. Could you explain a bit which device provides the faster or snappier operations ? For my case, the NAS will be used for backing up and watching/streaming my many photos and 4k videos in the mobile phone app. My current ts233 fails to provide a stable and fast experience for these basic things (some apps don't function and it's annoyingly slow in thumbnail generation and file opening speed). Thanks!
Way too much technical comments for those of us who are trying to get away from multiple external drives. I would like to find a NAS Video for dummies.
I went down the nas rabbit hole and have decided I just want usb-c direct attached storage (das) raid enclosure. Desktop pc in my case.
get the synology
Although it's not officially supported according to Synology, I understood that you can expand the memory of the DS224+ with 16GB to 18GB in total. That's a huge advantage compared to the QNAP I would say. But as you mentioned in the video, only the expansion of 4GB is officially supported.
Important question is, is that extra memory is supported by CPU and if not, what happens to the extra memory?
Have an 8GB module in mine, just installed, seems to run ok, it is an sk hynix module
I like the pc v console analogy. it explains quite a bit. And i was a pc builder and gamed a lot on a pc but as i got older i ended up a console player and i can see the huge benefit of things just working without me having to understand how to flash my bios chip or even know what a bios chip does. that being said i want things how i want them and when so i like customization as an option. For example i use my iphone to store all my music locally just like i did with mp3s and an ipod. Ipods order files in long texts lists which is great if you have several hundred artists and songs etc. But apple changed their app so it had cover art, often only 4 to a screen. Meaning it took ages to find things scrolling 4 at a time when it used to scroll 10 or 15 artists per page. And also it's organized by album and in a world of singles i don't know allthe albums on site and i also don't ever search by album. I might know an artists and a song. But not the album it was on. But either way i'd like to be able to reorganize the how it navigates. and i ended up buyiing a third party music player "CS music" that had that feature. So yeah customization is an important consideraation. And until they went away from celeron i was all in on Synology.
I have a TS-231, its still holding up pretty well.
I bought a ts262 and to my surprise it came with 2 ram slots, seems they are having upgradeable ram now!
I was also surprise to find that. Beside having to tear the warranty sticker on the first module, I’m now running mine with 32gb which allow VM to run very well.
Your videos are very nice, thanks. A suggestion would be to compare the applications capabilities in both NAS.
I want to buy a NAS with a better hardware because Synology is really bothering me leaving 2.5Gbps out of the table.. I would like to know about usb-copy, rsync, snapshot replication, if Asustor or QNAP are able to fulfill my requirements at the app and functionality levels. Thanks.
I was thinking your comparison on software bundles more than just "storage". I think it would be better to split out storage (you know, the S in NAS) and just compare the software on storage. That would be a better NAS comparison. Then add in all the other stuff for people who want the NAS to do all that other stuff. I was looking for storage only and I think you over emphasised Synology for other reasons, justified if you want those other things, but not a fair comparison as a NAS
I miss the discussion of the Android Apps.
I struggled in my decision and I was short before to buy a qnap. Now I will get a Synology.
I am a programmer, and I know enough about all those stuff. But finally I want to work with it. Want to use the Apps and mobile devices. So the final decision is no pro Synology
Great comparison video as usual - Thank you so much .
nice, now I really have no idea which one I should buy 😅
I love comparison ending with "buy this, the other is shit", that's my definition of "useful comparison" 😂
RAM is no longer soldered in on the TS-262 units. I just bought one and swapped the 4GB out for 2 x 8gb sticks and now have 16GB of RAM on a $280 dollar NAS.
As always great video. I would go with Synology as I am old Synology user,
Wondering what 2.5gbe USB ethernet dongles are compatible with Synology DS216+II?
Nice video, but I missed these two things:
1. How easily is to change the Hard drives in both systems? I saw somewhere in your video that the QNAP can be easily opened from the front and then extract them; however, it is not clear how this is done for the Synology; hopefully, you don't have two screw something
2. How loud are each of them. This is really important if you are planning to do home office.
I have a ds220+ you just slide then out the front and they have no screws sound is minimal I had mine on my desk right next to me and never bothered me
Thank you for the very informative videos. Im interested in a beginner NAS setup. Im always running out of storage and I would prefer to manage my own cloud instead of paying monthly service fees. The data I will be storing are mainly pictures and videos taken from our mobile devices from many years ago. I can't decide between Synology or Qnap or WD. I know they have their own faults and I recently watched your video about WD cloud ultra being hacked. In your honest opinion, what would be the safest bet for less vulnerability of data from hackers? Should i just stick with a desktop attached storage? I would like to have the ability to access my files on the go which is why im opting for a NAS setup. But terrified of my data being hacked. Also, Is there a way to setup an auto backup from a personal NAS to an external storage HDD? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for these useful videos
Both have problems with upgrading RAM. Synology has 1 memory slot up to 4 GB (if you're lucky, maybe 8 GB). And for QNAP the memory is completely soldered without an additional slot.
The only thing QNAP has is HDMI and 2x m2 slot
very very sad NAS series for upgrade (((((((((((((((((((
Please see other comments here - people seem to have successfully installed 16 GB modules into DS224+, and newer editions of TS-262 come with 2 upgradeable slots.
I will be updating my QNAP TS-221 old NAS and wondered if when using Netbak Replicator to back up my PC to the NAS rear USB Drive, if NetBak process very hungry on the NAS CPU resources like my old NAS is. What is the Synology App like for backing up a PC to the NAS? Can it do Incremental?
I feel like If Synology bumped up their hardware to 1-2 years old, rather than 3-4 years old, they'd crush the competition.
Hello, thank you so much for the review. One question regarding the Asustor AS5402T, is the nvme restricted in them or can we use any brand we like? Thank you
No restrictions, any m.2 SSD!
@@nascompares Your help much appreciated
Been watching your videos a lot lately. Been debating the diy vs turnkey options for awhile to replace my aging Netgear readynas. Is there anything diy that can touch a 12 bay option with expansion like the DS3622xs+ ? I like the form factor and efficiency, but not the cost, Yikes. For a DIY to entice me it would need to be at least $1000 to $1500 less for similar spec.
Im a totally beginner in NAS and am planning to store all personal and family photos. I was planning to get the Synology DS223J but was looking at the DS224+, as well as a QNAP option. I will only use it for personal purposes and work exclusively on Mac (and mostly on iPad).
So my request for an advice is which model would you recommend, considering I don’t want to break a bank. Thanks
If it just for photos storage and sharing, DS223j would do the job, I think.
Is it easy to add nvme storage to either NAS ?
Wait a min, why not just buy a mini pc with a ryzen 5600u for 250 bucks and a HDD enclosure and make your own file /plex server with 2 - 3 x graphically and computational performance?
if you do not care about power consumption and installed NAS software, then why not. But if you need low idle power consumption, stable NAS software with security patches, and mobile apps for photo backup, then you start to care...
@@RapManCZ you can get intel n100 powered mini pcs now for 150-180 usd . It’s the same chip that’s in most high end NAS
Hi
Would you do a deeper review of WD EX4100 and PR4100. I know that they are getting old and not much movement from WD to upgrade / replace them
Unfortunately, we (me and Ed) probably can't. Aside from us having a pretty dense to-do list to get through, we try to make videos based on demand. Even at a video per day, there's a massive list of ideas and suggestions to get through. I'd recommend adding it to the user poll on the NASCompares home page and see if it gets votes for. Cheers for watching dude and have a great weekend
That guitar solo is so annoying. Hurting my ears. Else a great video.
USB 2.0 seems a strange choice in this day and age.
HI Mate A little Off topic I know BUT :) i'm kinda new to all this. Mate when i'm wondering Can I run a PLEX Nas Server and a Home Cloud for backing up phones "Wife's 1000000000 pics" lol and kids phones on the same NAS ? If so what would be a Great NAS for me to BUY. I'm willing to spend around the $1000.00 to $500 AUD Mark.
For that you can use synology ds223j, is cheaper and it does the job, if you don't have a capable smartphone and you need a lower resolution like 720p which needs transcoding then chose ds224+ or ds220+ second hand. Transcoding is used when you don't have a capable tv or smartphone and can't watch 4k movies and you need a lower resolution
I know it's strange but I'd like to know which NAS is noisier
I have the DS224+. The fan noise is very little on the quiet setting and I don't see the need for higher settings. Most of the noise comes from the hard drives.
unless you are hammering the NAS all day long I would suggest to set the fan/s on quiet mode, at that point they are silent
This is not strange at all. I think is a fair question if you plan to use it on a home office. I came also here to see if there is any answer on the video, but unfortunately there isn't. Now, I saw the other replies talking about setting the fan to a quiet mode on the Synology, but does the QNAP also supports this?
Quite the oversight, unfortunately. The same for power consumption. It's a device which will be running 24/7 for multiple years. I'd also like to know whether fans can be replaced.
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If the QNAP is dual-core, why does the graphic say quad-core? The simple truth is that the J4125 eclipses the J4505 on multi-core tasks.
Another disingenuous review? Facts matter, mate.
That music you use is estremo loud and annoying.
Why use British slang.? It would be better if you used Pounds instead of nicker.
you've got a global reaching channel and you're still talking "nickers and quids".. time to grow up don't you think? US dollars will give people a better understanding of the value globally, despite I'm not American unfortunately they're the global currency currency
Not everyone is as sad and miserable as yourself. It’s not a bad thing to have a personality.
Or you can just accept that there are other countries besides USA and that those countries speak english their own way.
Also, why would he use dollars if he is in Great Britain, which uses pounds (quid)? #thisistheinternetnotamerica
@@JoakimSiegers it just sound cringe and that crappy British accent is hard to understand.. but that's just part on the chaotic video he produces (and too many apparently, in order to feed YT algorithm)
Speak for yourself. No issues following or listening to his videos at all. Seems like a personal preference issue for you
@@tyyuuuihycyctct English is my third language, and his english is pretty clear, but no worries, we have all been there, with time you will get better :)