Ruby is not a victim. She already was emotionally and mentally abusive to her children before. Maybe even physically. But she just found someone that shared her same demented thoughts and actions and the two of them were horrible together. I truly believe those kids would have died in their hands. Clearly that was imminent.
I'm a mental health professional, which informs my perspective on this situation. Both the Utah licensing board and the LDS church have significant responsibility in the harm to these children as well as others harmed by Jodi. She apparently routinely violated HIPPA and shared information about clients with church officials. There is no way the church officials didn't realize they participated in violating people's privacy in a very significant way. The church had to know her license had at one time been suspended, yet they continued to funnel clients to Jodi. And the licensing board failed in a really big way by allowing her to continue practice. She is a dangerous person and has no doubt harmed innumerable people.
The Morman bishops are definitely culpable for enabling her and tolerating the Hippa violations. Since it was a routine for her to feed info to her Bishop then that gives a good insight to the way the Morman church cares for their parishioners. Those bishops can't say they didn't know that she got the info from a clinical setting, they were the ones who referred them to her!!!
It’s apparently a regular occurrence with the LDS church to recommend therapists and have those therapists report back everything they are told to the persons bishop or if it’s a child they report back everything to the child’s parents and the bishop. Oh and the church new about her last suspension because it was involved in the case. That person came forward and shared his story on the Mormon stories podcast and with in the past week they had to remove the video because of a restraining order that was sent to them requiring them to remove the video
Everyone that the church referred her too needs to come forward. The church is CULPABLE in these crimes against Men, women and Especially the children!
@@boysrus61 I watch him too! Just think of all the stuff the Mormon church got away before social media? Now we can hear and speak with people we would never have known!
@@strawberryme08right. Which is a touch impossible when the people you trust your soul with are LYING TO YOU. Wait till it touches YOUR family. Since that’s the only way y’all learn empathy and compassion.
Jodi was a bitter, divorced woman whose LDS dream died and so she was going to take down every man with her. Jessi Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece, stated they believed Jodi hated men.
She also stated Jodi told her if she has a sexual relationship with a woman it’s different than regular lesbians because they had a deep emotional connection. Something along those lines. She’s gay and bitter because she’ll lose everything if she comes out. Well at the very least bisexual.
That’s exactly what I was discerning from her. It seems as if she had/has a sadistic desire to break up other people’s marriages as some sort of superiority complex and a way to damage men. I also think she is a closet lesbian and she hates herself for it so she projects onto her clients that they have sinful desires and unhealthy sex habits and addictions.
The sad part is the church loved Jodi. They loved her tactics to use church shame and guilt to manipulate people. There’s a reason church bishops continued to recommend her as a resource.
I wonder what would happen if we abolished religious tax exemptions. Churches are treated like charities and are almost treated like a social program. They aren’t charities tho. Maybe they used to be heavily tied to community outreach and giving back (I remember when all the churches in my town had soup kitchens or food banks) and having their books open to audits might uncover corruption before things like this are allowed to happen. Imagine being a tax payer in this area, and find that this organization is using town resources that you’re paying for, only to keep their own money in order to pay someone to assault and manipulation members of their own congregation. To break up marriages. Destroy lives. I feel like we give perks to a lot of institutions because we’ve always done it, and the lack of scrutiny over the years has allowed some pretty horrible stuff to breed behind the closed doors of the “virtuous”.
The LDS church will step away saying they don't condone this and let Jodi burn while they use their lawyers to protect themselves using tithing's investment kickbacks
It scares me that many other victims, still with the LDS Church, fear their church standing may be harmed by coming forward. I'm sickened to know the LDS church was referring and paying for Jodi to victimize her clients.
Motion to forever refer to massive abuse-of-power church corruption scandals as "being on par with the LDS"? The Catholic Church has done horrible things, of course, but I feel the fact that the LDS has billions of dollars and has people scared into silence with a simple threat of it could ruin their standing in the church (which God help you if your church standing is affected in Utah... the LDS basically runs that state, lbr) shows how absolutely vile the LDS really is.
@khaleesireyna731 It's sadly because their religion is all they have. The people, the community... everyone around them normally is mormon too so excommunication is a scary thing to them because it's all they've known!
@@lastdays8500 oh I 1000% understand that and I, in no way, blame those who are scared to come forward. The LDS Church is a very high control religious group and the fear of complete isolation/rejection from one's community can be a very powerful thing others can manipulate. The blame for that dynamic lies solely on the LDS Church and its leaders and I'm even more disgusted because first these people were victimized by Jodi (a therapist the LDS recommended) and now they're being bullied by said Church into silence. It's disgusting and the church absolutely need to be held accountable for it (not that I have high hopes for that outcome. The US has a far too permissive attitude when it comes to high-control religious groups, so high likelihood very little will be done).
@@khaleesireyna731 Agree. It's so sad. I hope victims will realise their voice matters and they shouldn't be afraid of exposing the truth, after all.. don't these groups always go on about "The Truth"
yes that they were paying this woman, and she had her license taken away from her at least once before...also were they not aware that her methodology seemed to be blaming the man and encouraging families to break up.
So, you pay for a group therapy session that's only the group and you have to pay extra to have a session with the therapist. No wonder she has such a beautiful house.
I personally have adopted a philosophy toward people like Jodi (the people who do awful, horrible things and then play victim or gaslight or deny any wrongdoing when called out). I call it scornful mockery. You'll never break through these people's delulu land that they're in the right and everyone else is wrong. You'll never reach them through expressing anger or sadness at their actions... so the only thing you can go for is ego. So, as disgusted and horrified as I am with Jodi's actions and the pain she inflicted on people like Jessi, Adam, and the Franke kids makes me want to cry, I also know Jodi is *really* trying to play victim, so no remorse there. So I'm also cackling at how she surrendered her license and how much she's coping and seething that her victims are coming forward (and you just KNOW she knows they are) and I still get a kick hoe deflated she looked in her court appearance photo (at least Ruby had the villian decency to have the "I can't believe I'm in here" angry face 😂). I will make fun of people them because as evil as they are, they're also just overgrown bullies and the worst thing you can do to them is laugh in their faces.
@@NOVOLITION Sure, Jan. I'm not the one on trial for 6 counts of aggrevated child abuse, but whatever your edgelord brain rot self wants to believe is fact, you go right ahead. 🤣🤣🫡🤣🤣
The best way to hold them accountable is by actively trying to show church members the truth. The church is a trillion dollar company, they will get a slap on the wrist and then use tithing money to pay people off. You would need to expose that the whole system is broken but members don’t believe that. All their therapists use sexual shame and “addiction” as a tool. If people believe their sexual urges are unnatural and a sin and that they need therapy to control it, then you have a way to control members. It’s cyclical and they know it. The Mormon church is a sex cult. They use people’s normal attraction to sex as a way of shaming them and making them feel like they need the church to stay on a path to heaven. You must go yo the temple to go to the highest heaven. You can’t have a temple recommend if you are doing sexual things So not only are you judged for wanting sex, but now we will take away your only way of making covenants with god to go to the highest heaven. Go get therapy, but only from our approved therapists who will also say sex is shameful and label you as a sex or porn addict instead of showing you it’s NORMAL. Oh wait but if sex urges are normal then I don’t need the church anymore to make sure I stay on a path of righteousness because wait! All these other things the church is teaching are not true. 🙈
That’s very interesting that it sounds like Jodi almost felt persecuted because she had her license taken away. She’s not very good at practicing what she preaches, ie taking personal responsibility for one’s actions.
I know personally from working in the medical field you’d have to pry my license from my cold dead hands. But I respect having it in the first place… so while I understand feeling some sort of way about being stripped of one’s ability to practice, I 💯 believe she knew what she was doing. She thought she was untouchable, and I am so interested in what she could possibly be thinking after finally being taken down, after decades, by a one incredibly brave 12 year old boy.
Going by her court appearance photo (I'm cackling at the way she looks so small and deflated), she's just going to build up how much of a victim she is. Guarantee you the jury won't buy that when they hear from the actual victims.
The jury pool, and possibly the judge, could be LDS members and might not see the situation the same as someone who is not involved in the LDS church. So if you’re describing normal as non-LDS church members that might not be the case.
@bostonterriermomakasandy9722 considering that Jodi's own family are disgusted with what she's been accused of and the severity of it, I highly doubt most LDS members are just gonna be ok with it. Many of them have children. Wouldn't be hard for them to imagine the pain of them seeing their own children like that. Warren Jeffs was a Mormon (not LDS, but still Mormon) and Utahans had no problem finding his a$$ guilty of his crimes.
This is the greatest fear of all manipulative people, clandestine groups, or cults. To one day be exposed. I hope that she is found guilty on all counts and spends an lengthy time in prison.
Not just to be exposed the Biggest fear for people like Jodie that comes across as a sociopathic sadistic narcisst personality type the biggest fear is for them /her to have to face their own Human Self and to connect with their own hidden parts..and why these parts became hidden.. and the Reality and Truth of what they have done to others especially children..
The Mormon church needs to address WHY they persisted in recommending Jodi. If they don’t cooperate a class action lawsuit may help the numerous victims. She’s been harming her clients for years!
Sorry to say this but the LDS is very messed up. Seems corrupted if the church supports Jodi Hildebrandt. Its also ironic the Jodi is guiding women to leave their husbands....most therapist try to save a marriage not separate them.
I'm interested to know how many of these couples ever came back together with their marriage restored in perfect harmony after doing all of this that Jodi told them to do. Like how can she say she knows the way to be a family again and to be perfect, when she wasn't even married, and none of her clients ever got back together.... crazy that anyone actually believed that.
Looks like Jodi was only interested in the money and not really helping people. Either that or she wasn’t interested in this woman because there was no husband to get rid of.
@@Halloween111 💯! Another similarity is how Mormon „bishops“ were using their relationship with this „therapist“ to collect dirt on their followers. Scientology does that with their „auditing“ sessions, where members are getting pressured to reveal any and all dirty little secrets they may have. Which may be one of the reasons for why Tom Cruise never left that cult. He probably knows that Scientology could end him by making what they had been collecting on him public. Not saying that Cruise may have committed crimes. But we all have a private life. Laying private information open can be damaging, even if nothing nefarious is involved. As for Jodi, she obviously kept inventing „sex addictions“ or „porn addictions“ particularly men allegedly had. Which, amongst the largely sexually repressed and religious-doctrine-brainwashed American population equates to defamation.
I think it comes across as jodi is jealous of people who are in relationships, and that disdain, for their partnership drove a lot of the way she would get couples to separate “if I can’t be happy, nobody else can be happy“ Let me be clear I don’t believe someone has to be in a partnership or marriage to be happy, but I think Jody had a chip on her shoulder about that.
You guys need to reach out to the Connexions members themselves and not just those who sought therapy for a couple of sessions. I’m sure there will be WAY more context and info given that way. Either way you guys are the best news source covering this story!
😂❤omg I found you in the comments! LOL I watch your channel. I was just about to comment that I wish they would come forward, but I have a bad feeling they are in hiding. I also have a feeling that we will be hearing so much more evidence against her.
Thanks Brittany, it's great that victims are speaking out and what happened with the children wasn't just a blip after years of being good...we all see how toxic witch j is!
My apologies that this is so long. This case has triggered an experience from many years ago. We can't just start with blanket statements about all LDS people, all LDS Bishops, etc. In this particular case, everyone assumed that if a Bishop or Stake President recommended a certain therapist, that everything was OK. My wife and I faced very similar issues when we tried to help some children who were obviously being abused by their adoptive parents. No matter what we said or did, no one would believe or listen to us. Why? Because while there were COUNTLESS numbers of others who saw the abuse and talked about it, they were turned away or told to ignore it. We met with Bishops and Stake Presidents to no avail. When one of the children finally reached the age of 18, we took them in and were able to make a difference in her life. EVEN THEN, the adoptive family complained about us and once again we were told to leave it alone. We moved and the previous Stake President had our temple recommends canceled without authority to do it. That young lady that we "saved" is now safe and living a happy life, but not without continuing challenges. My questions are this: Where were the people who were supposed to be ministering to these families and abused children? Where were the Primary teachers, Sunday School teachers, Young Men's leaders, Relief Society? And the list goes on and on. Every single one of them are supposed to take mandatory abuse training. From Richard G. Scott - Do not be discouraged if initially a bishop hesitates when you identify an abuser. Remember that predators are skillful at cultivating a public appearance of piety to mask their despicable acts. People - start saying things and speaking up, no matter the consequences and no matter what authority says. While my wife and I went literally through hell and were actually sued (they eventually dropped the suit) by extended members of the family, but it was worth it to save this one young lady. Oh, and as for my wife and I? We are very happy with our membership in the church and believe it with all our hearts and will never deny it no matter what. Brainwashed? Not really. The world is becoming increasingly complicated and evil is more prevalent that ever before. We combat it the best we can and can never be 100% in those battles, but keep trying and never give up.
Thank you so much! I had a similar experience with a child in my Primary class, I talked to the bishop about it and ended up being thrown under the bus by the bishop. Turned out he was long time friends of the child's parents. Am I sorry? He k no, I did what God would have me do. Did I leave the church?no. I also still believe. Getting sooo tired of all the Mormon bashing! So thank you for the positive light.
Thank you for coming forward and hoping others will do the same. Abuse prevented as something is terribly wrong with this church and the way that they sent folks to her
This was a very interesting interview, Brian. I heard that Jodi does not have a degree in counseling. A counselor with a TH-cam channel reported that her degree is in Education psychology. Though she may have been licensed, it doesn't sound like she was qualified to be a counselor.
To obtain a liscense you generally need X amount of supervised hours, extra CEUs, and to pass the rather expensive licensing exam. The exact requirements vary by state. It looks like Jodi spent 5 years working at a rehab clinic before venturing out on her own. In Jodi's case though it doesn't really matter how many hoops you jump through, she's just deluded with entitlement and grandosity and thinks rules don't apply to her.
People pay money for a boot camp style group therapy, then they call each other for support? Not licensed therapists and groups are run by Life coaches…wow ,what a way to throw money to the wind. Mental health professionals need to be educated and licensed. Not wonder many damaged & divorced couples.
Like Lori vallow, Jodi thought she was above worldly accountability, like she got some mandate directly from a higher power. What is it about the lds church that leads to these particular extreme practices and beliefs compared to other organised religions?
It's NOT just the LDS church!! There are so many other groups that turn into cults, all you need is a charismatic person with a convincing story, and misguided followers. It's that simple. Personally, I think that people are scared, have been for a while, what with the horrible things happening in the world around us. Some people have such a need for guidance and reassurance that they will follow anyone who provides any sense of strength, however hollow it really is. That, in my observation, is how cults start and are maintained...til something happens to blow it all up. We just need to be very kind to each other, especially children!
Insightful interview. I appreciated hearing the personal experience from patient/client of Jodi Hildebrandt's. Very eye- opening to me. Thanks to the young lady for bravely coming forward and sharing. I know from my own experience that therapy/counseling is very personal and not something you want to share with just anyone. I commend her for doing so in light of the damaging results JH's methods have had on the Franke family. The words gaslighting and brainwashing come to mind...most disturbing that a troubled person such as JH believes she can help others when she herself needs help. I feel sad for those deluded from JH's practices.
From what I've heard about this case I don't understand why there was a plea agreement. I think the district attorney really dropped the ball on this one. She should be thrown under the jail. all those charges should have been first degree💯! With fraud charges thrown on top. I really hope the judge hits her with the maximum allowable under the plea agreement!
It took me almost a year and 6 different therapists appointments to find my therapist. Theres a whole lot of crazy out there claiming to be therapist 😅
Yep. A lot of people go into the field because they are messed up. Called them psychoterrorists and professional voyeurs in a text book I wrote back in the 90s.
From what I gathered from other interviews and posts, after Adam Steed reported Jodi and there was a story about it in the paper, the LDS church distanced themselves from her and publicly stated she was no longer on the LDS Family Services referral list. But according to this interview, she was still being referred by bishops and paid for by LDS Family Services. I am not sure which is worse, the church continuing to use her formally as a referred therapist after the fact or going along referring her “off the books”. She was still getting paid by LDS Family Services. It seems so nefarious to me that they used the bare minimum of loopholes to still use her and pay her.
10 years, TEN YEARS dealing with Psychs!! And I have not met a good Psychiatrists/ Psychologists/ Psych Nurses/ Therapist/ Anyone with a Psych background, NONE!! The only 1 or 2 seemingly “good” ones play good cop bad cop with their colleagues. All psychs are rotten to the core, there is something inherently wrong with Psychiatry itself. I don’t think good people will be comfortable or okay with 🔒 up innocent people at Psych wards, tying them, escalating situations just to find some st00pid excuse to 🔒 them and tie them, then put them on lifelong medication that don’t cure anything and do nothing but side effects!! U wanna improve urselves? Find a good church community, if u are not a Christian maybe find a life coach or mentor. Go pick up a hobby, join classes. Talk to your friends or none Psych counsellors. Go exercise and do things that bring u joy and enrich u , things which are not harmful to urself or others. Anyone or any other option will be far better then PSYCHS!! 🤢🤮
I honestly don’t know why anyone would recommend Psychiatry, that type of old fashion thinking that Psychiatrists help anyone nearly k*lled me. I was never suycidal till I encountered the Psychiatric system. They really ab*se patients claiming its “help” but its obviously ab*se. If you break a leg, you go see the Dr, the Dr will prescribe you medication to heal your leg and wrap it in a cast. If you go see a Psychiatrist, they will misdiagnose you, tort*re you and ab*se you, giving the patient more problems and anger they never had in the first place. The patient will be put on meds for life! If you see a Dr for a broken leg, your leg should be healed in a few weeks to months and you don’t need the meds anymore. But a Psychiatrist?? LOL! You just throwing your life away by seeing them.
Find someone who practices joy based treatment and teaches you to fall in love with the miracle/gift of your one and only life. People know how to have problems what they don't know how to have is joy. But for medical-I know rather a lot of people killed or disabled by the wonderful world of pharmacology.
The Mormon church should pay and face the consequences for having this insane family therapist as one of their top family counselors for almost 20 yrs and for recommending her service to help church members and not doing anything about her wrong practices. The church should have known about her wrong practices in almost 20yrs.
As a therapist in Italy, my heart breaks. Except the harmful business approach, it goes against the professional conduct. The sessions in Italy are for a very fair fee and with a ln individual or group approach. I feel ao bad as persons like this bribe and also harm a complete professional category. Please know that there are good therapists all over the world and if you only have one split second a gutfeeling that a therapist doesn't feel ok, take it up or change!!
I have had group counseling and this lady that taught me was in the same position as Jodi was teaching sessions to people who obviously need help, this lady I saw her name is Amy unless Jodi she doesn’t use shaming tatics to destroy others and drag them down further Heck no she is extremely kindhearted and caring towards people she really values others and really puts others needs first above everything else, I love Amy she is the best, the most kindhearted, caring, and compassionate lady I have met in my entire life
This interview is incredibly insightful and shows Jodi's M.O. behind the harm she's caused to ALL of her victims - she has a God complex and hates men.
You can blur the background if you don't want others to see your home, car, what's going on behind you. It looks like she is doing the interview on her phone and looking down at it while he is conducting the interview facing the computer camera head on. Not all that strange in today's journlism world.
Where did Jodi Hildebrandt get the money to afford a 5 million dollar fortress? She did NOT have that many clients, 10 women in a phone circle. What is the connection? WHY did the Mormon Church promote and pay Jodi Hildebrandt?
Jodi got an astounding amount of money overcharging for her services and programs. She was charging some people thousands of dollars, especially for her connexion programs!
I'm a bit weary about this lady. The person who referred her to Jodi was a 'friend of a friend' and she couldn't remember the friend's name if she tried?? I really can't remember anything, but I would absolutely know the answer to that question. Now, this isn't to say that Jodi isn't terrible. She's 💯 an abusive, sadistic psychopath! Just watch out for other people with major personality disorders that attach themselves to things for attention.
I mean Amy for example the councillor I see every 2 weeks wouldn’t make people feel bad for their horrible actions, instead she tries to say to people that everyone gets angry and everyone gets upset She said to people they need to know how their feeling in the moment them if their upset remove yourself from the situation before you get out of control, she really does try to help people regulate their emotions And she tries to help people to get away from the situation before you end up doing something horrible,
It seems to me that the amount of abuse you suffer from Jodi depends upon how high up the LDS shit list you are. Adam Steed really pissed them off and so did his dad so he got it bad. Jodi's niece got it bad because nobody in her life wanted to protect her. Whereas this lady was just a client who went through the books, so merely witnessed some bad things but gave the church no reason to traumatise her. I wonder if that will change now she has done this interview?
And I can’t imagine someone who is supposed to help people and get them feeling better about themselves would make them feel bad Like I watched a video of a guy who said a man whoowned his own business got another apartment to separate himself from his wife and children, because Jodi said things that made him feel like looking at someone else’s psssing by him was wrong, she dragged him down amd made him feel horrible about his choices And how other people where made to feel horrible about themselves, she made them feel like they were the problem
I hate comparing apples to oranges, but I'm gonna do it here. This way of "counseling" that Jodi Hildebrandt did with members of the church, reminds me somewhat of the Landmark Forum (a personal development program). I took the Landmark Forum 7 yrs ago. They have very similar almost military style teachings when it comes to their classes. I called it emotional boot camp. They break you down emotionally, they will shame you when you are vulnerable about something going on in your life currently or in your past. It has messed up a lot of people, and even ruined some relationships with people. I didn't have that affect on me thank goodness, I wouldn't let it. But they use a lot of emotionally abusive tactics and yes it is a cult.
Thank you Brittany for coming forward. Jodi just one word: NASTY. (PS/I like the way you Brittany you put yourself together, reminds me of a young Catherine Deneuve, very chic.)
she wasn't there in the group sessions? so they were without guidance & feedback from her? wow, passive income. & then she had the group make mandatory phone calls? wtf? i never heard of that & i've had plenty of therapy as a recovering alcoholic. i'm thankful that most of it was phenomenal. i've had both at all sorts of places, alanon at alcare, a womens' recovery halfway house, at out patient hospital, rehab center, rape crisis, so many places & they saved my life. & never did any of them leave the group without therapists in the room. sometimes a few if the group was big enough. & they truly cared, & that was key. i've had crappy 'therapy' too. this woman had no business in this field. i bet she charged way more than other therapists. reading the other comments leaves me needing to keep looking at this case. i'm just looking into it, learning more every day.
It very sad you go to get help. The people who you are supposed to help you take advantage of your problem. Very sad and very scary to have people in that area for help. All about the money. Very bad energy. I hope they get what they deserve or more. Very sad to the people And the families.
she said she went FOR SOMETHING NEW and other people were doing it, then said she said SHE WAS IN DEEP DESPAIR so sought help... so which was it, curiosity or need?
This is 1980’s Encounter - Group modality, with Jodi as a a Duct- Tape Dominatrix, Therapist, Cult- Leader twist. I think this plot was spun in the 2980’d by Cult Leader from San Francisco, Jim Jones, poisoned kool-Aid drinkers in his “end of times” suicide cult just 40 years ago? As a therapist, it is unethical in the very least to continue therapy beyond three sessions without specific goals for therapy: barring rare exceptions. I have no idea what the goals of this alleged “therapy” were. It’s impossible to determine if her methods were useful or useless without a single goal defined for anything. But for what ends or goals? Therapy is not going to somebody and talking about your feelings and having rambling conversations about personal growth and insight. That’s more encounter group shit that you can do on a weekend with a couple cases of beer up in the mountains. This whole bullshit that “therapy equals counseling” is outdated. “Therapy” is not: 1970s encounter, transactional stuff with a little bit of behaviorism thrown a few compassionate sprinkles of Toughlove. Therapy is performed by licensed counselors. That what JH did is therapy” is bullshit. This lady was billing for therapy, and if she was billing insurance for therapy, then what she was doing is fraud on her ginormous scale
Did any federal health care dollars go to fund the so-called "therapy" by JH? I would also like to know what her credentials were to be offering counseling. Mormons licensing Mormons, I bet.
Oh WOW she didn’t have a license to do it anymore that seems to be what she told this lady! She is a very angry person! She didn’t have a license.. JODI didn’t have a license?????
Ruby is not a victim. She already was emotionally and mentally abusive to her children before. Maybe even physically. But she just found someone that shared her same demented thoughts and actions and the two of them were horrible together. I truly believe those kids would have died in their hands. Clearly that was imminent.
I agree!
Ruby was the famous one. On social media. But Jodi seems like the master mind. For Ruby, Jodi was her guide and mentor and guru.
indeed
Mutual parasitic grifting. Agree to the 100th power
Yes, like Chad and Lori Daybell were sick before meeting one another and together deadly.
I'm a mental health professional, which informs my perspective on this situation. Both the Utah licensing board and the LDS church have significant responsibility in the harm to these children as well as others harmed by Jodi. She apparently routinely violated HIPPA and shared information about clients with church officials. There is no way the church officials didn't realize they participated in violating people's privacy in a very significant way. The church had to know her license had at one time been suspended, yet they continued to funnel clients to Jodi. And the licensing board failed in a really big way by allowing her to continue practice. She is a dangerous person and has no doubt harmed innumerable people.
Yes! The Franke’s LDS Bishops should be questioned!
The Morman bishops are definitely culpable for enabling her and tolerating the Hippa violations. Since it was a routine for her to feed info to her Bishop then that gives a good insight to the way the Morman church cares for their parishioners. Those bishops can't say they didn't know that she got the info from a clinical setting, they were the ones who referred them to her!!!
It’s apparently a regular occurrence with the LDS church to recommend therapists and have those therapists report back everything they are told to the persons bishop or if it’s a child they report back everything to the child’s parents and the bishop. Oh and the church new about her last suspension because it was involved in the case. That person came forward and shared his story on the Mormon stories podcast and with in the past week they had to remove the video because of a restraining order that was sent to them requiring them to remove the video
HIPAA
class action lawsuit incoming, LDS
It’s absolutely amazing to me that this courageous young boy that escaped is responsible for ALL OF THIS corruption being brought into light.
Everyone that the church referred her too needs to come forward. The church is CULPABLE in these crimes against Men, women and Especially the children!
They call church lawyers for child abuse before 911. They will be covering their asses.
People need to use their own discernment. The end.
John Dehlin from Mormon Stories Podcast is asking for victims to notify him as he is helping to gather the stories.
@@boysrus61 I watch him too! Just think of all the stuff the Mormon church got away before social media? Now we can hear and speak with people we would never have known!
@@strawberryme08right. Which is a touch impossible when the people you trust your soul with are LYING TO YOU. Wait till it touches YOUR family. Since that’s the only way y’all learn empathy and compassion.
Jodi was a bitter, divorced woman whose LDS dream died and so she was going to take down every man with her. Jessi Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece, stated they believed Jodi hated men.
Jodi hates anyone who isn’t her. Especially children and men. Her rage is palpable especially when discussing children.
Considering that both the 12 year old boy and his 10 year old sister were both tied up and near starving I’d say she hates all children.
She also stated Jodi told her if she has a sexual relationship with a woman it’s different than regular lesbians because they had a deep emotional connection. Something along those lines. She’s gay and bitter because she’ll lose everything if she comes out. Well at the very least bisexual.
That’s exactly what I was discerning from her. It seems as if she had/has a sadistic desire to break up other people’s marriages as some sort of superiority complex and a way to damage men. I also think she is a closet lesbian and she hates herself for it so she projects onto her clients that they have sinful desires and unhealthy sex habits and addictions.
The sad part is the church loved Jodi. They loved her tactics to use church shame and guilt to manipulate people. There’s a reason church bishops continued to recommend her as a resource.
Thank you so much Brittany for coming forward! I hope more people have the courage to do so
Sounds like a lawsuit needs to be brought against the church and those who referred these people to.
I wonder what would happen if we abolished religious tax exemptions. Churches are treated like charities and are almost treated like a social program. They aren’t charities tho. Maybe they used to be heavily tied to community outreach and giving back (I remember when all the churches in my town had soup kitchens or food banks) and having their books open to audits might uncover corruption before things like this are allowed to happen.
Imagine being a tax payer in this area, and find that this organization is using town resources that you’re paying for, only to keep their own money in order to pay someone to assault and manipulation members of their own congregation. To break up marriages. Destroy lives.
I feel like we give perks to a lot of institutions because we’ve always done it, and the lack of scrutiny over the years has allowed some pretty horrible stuff to breed behind the closed doors of the “virtuous”.
I so agree. Class action suit???? Wouldn't know how to go about it.
Absolutely
That whole LDS network needs to be exposed for their lies & abuse
The LDS church will step away saying they don't condone this and let Jodi burn while they use their lawyers to protect themselves using tithing's investment kickbacks
It scares me that many other victims, still with the LDS Church, fear their church standing may be harmed by coming forward. I'm sickened to know the LDS church was referring and paying for Jodi to victimize her clients.
Motion to forever refer to massive abuse-of-power church corruption scandals as "being on par with the LDS"? The Catholic Church has done horrible things, of course, but I feel the fact that the LDS has billions of dollars and has people scared into silence with a simple threat of it could ruin their standing in the church (which God help you if your church standing is affected in Utah... the LDS basically runs that state, lbr) shows how absolutely vile the LDS really is.
@khaleesireyna731 It's sadly because their religion is all they have. The people, the community... everyone around them normally is mormon too so excommunication is a scary thing to them because it's all they've known!
@@lastdays8500 oh I 1000% understand that and I, in no way, blame those who are scared to come forward. The LDS Church is a very high control religious group and the fear of complete isolation/rejection from one's community can be a very powerful thing others can manipulate.
The blame for that dynamic lies solely on the LDS Church and its leaders and I'm even more disgusted because first these people were victimized by Jodi (a therapist the LDS recommended) and now they're being bullied by said Church into silence. It's disgusting and the church absolutely need to be held accountable for it (not that I have high hopes for that outcome. The US has a far too permissive attitude when it comes to high-control religious groups, so high likelihood very little will be done).
@@khaleesireyna731 Agree. It's so sad. I hope victims will realise their voice matters and they shouldn't be afraid of exposing the truth, after all.. don't these groups always go on about "The Truth"
yes that they were paying this woman, and she had her license taken away from her at least once before...also were they not aware that her methodology seemed to be blaming the man and encouraging families to break up.
So, you pay for a group therapy session that's only the group and you have to pay extra to have a session with the therapist. No wonder she has such a beautiful house.
$3 million!!!
Plus the church was paying her….
That is the way therapy services are provided. Fees for both individual and group sessions.
@@zoesgma Like other people in a group are going to be wiser and and have the answers.
I find it quite ugly. Matter of taste, I guess.
This strong, brave lady is so well-spoken and self-aware! She seems so pleasant, and I wish her the best.
She was creating her own cult.
@GailSinatra I agree she of course wanted their money (notice it’s the rich ones)
She can do that if she wants. Creating a "cult" isn't illegal.
@@patr70 Sure, but it's immoral.
@@GaliSinatra How So?
@@patr70 If you have to ask that question, I'd say you need some help or read up on what damage cults do to people.
Thank you Brittany for sharing your experience!
It may have taken some time but the world finally sees Jodi Hildebrandt for who she truly is.
I think people are just really stupid.
I personally have adopted a philosophy toward people like Jodi (the people who do awful, horrible things and then play victim or gaslight or deny any wrongdoing when called out). I call it scornful mockery. You'll never break through these people's delulu land that they're in the right and everyone else is wrong. You'll never reach them through expressing anger or sadness at their actions... so the only thing you can go for is ego.
So, as disgusted and horrified as I am with Jodi's actions and the pain she inflicted on people like Jessi, Adam, and the Franke kids makes me want to cry, I also know Jodi is *really* trying to play victim, so no remorse there. So I'm also cackling at how she surrendered her license and how much she's coping and seething that her victims are coming forward (and you just KNOW she knows they are) and I still get a kick hoe deflated she looked in her court appearance photo (at least Ruby had the villian decency to have the "I can't believe I'm in here" angry face 😂). I will make fun of people them because as evil as they are, they're also just overgrown bullies and the worst thing you can do to them is laugh in their faces.
@@khaleesireyna731jodi is right. you’re wrong
@@NOVOLITION Sure, Jan. I'm not the one on trial for 6 counts of aggrevated child abuse, but whatever your edgelord brain rot self wants to believe is fact, you go right ahead. 🤣🤣🫡🤣🤣
@@khaleesireyna731 you’re still on trial, everyone is
Thank you for speaking out. Every voice matters in these situations.
Lds church need be held accountable for the abuse of 8passengers children and many people who were victims of Jodi just like her niece Jessi
Yes, I 💯% agree with you. The LDS Church also needs to be held accountable for all the abuse they've covered up over the year's.
The best way to hold them accountable is by actively trying to show church members the truth.
The church is a trillion dollar company, they will get a slap on the wrist and then use tithing money to pay people off.
You would need to expose that the whole system is broken but members don’t believe that. All their therapists use sexual shame and “addiction” as a tool. If people believe their sexual urges are unnatural and a sin and that they need therapy to control it, then you have a way to control members.
It’s cyclical and they know it. The Mormon church is a sex cult. They use people’s normal attraction to sex as a way of shaming them and making them feel like they need the church to stay on a path to heaven.
You must go yo the temple to go to the highest heaven.
You can’t have a temple recommend if you are doing sexual things
So not only are you judged for wanting sex, but now we will take away your only way of making covenants with god to go to the highest heaven.
Go get therapy, but only from our approved therapists who will also say sex is shameful and label you as a sex or porn addict instead of showing you it’s NORMAL.
Oh wait but if sex urges are normal then I don’t need the church anymore to make sure I stay on a path of righteousness because wait! All these other things the church is teaching are not true.
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That’s very interesting that it sounds like Jodi almost felt persecuted because she had her license taken away. She’s not very good at practicing what she preaches, ie taking personal responsibility for one’s actions.
She barely turned over her license
Yup. Jodi is in _serious_ distortion.
😂😂😂😂
Sounds like Jodi thought she was a martyr! 🙄
I know personally from working in the medical field you’d have to pry my license from my cold dead hands. But I respect having it in the first place… so while I understand feeling some sort of way about being stripped of one’s ability to practice, I 💯 believe she knew what she was doing. She thought she was untouchable, and I am so interested in what she could possibly be thinking after finally being taken down, after decades, by a one incredibly brave 12 year old boy.
She's not very good period. Thread of insanity runs through lds culture. Hmm insanity or just let others think for me. Well that's insanity right????
She's certainly in for a rude awakening in court before a 'normal' judge and jury.
Can’t wait to see that! ⚖️
I read her judge is mormon
Going by her court appearance photo (I'm cackling at the way she looks so small and deflated), she's just going to build up how much of a victim she is. Guarantee you the jury won't buy that when they hear from the actual victims.
The jury pool, and possibly the judge, could be LDS members and might not see the situation the same as someone who is not involved in the LDS church. So if you’re describing normal as non-LDS church members that might not be the case.
@bostonterriermomakasandy9722 considering that Jodi's own family are disgusted with what she's been accused of and the severity of it, I highly doubt most LDS members are just gonna be ok with it. Many of them have children. Wouldn't be hard for them to imagine the pain of them seeing their own children like that. Warren Jeffs was a Mormon (not LDS, but still Mormon) and Utahans had no problem finding his a$$ guilty of his crimes.
This is the greatest fear of all manipulative people, clandestine groups, or cults. To one day be exposed. I hope that she is found guilty on all counts and spends an lengthy time in prison.
Psychopaths do not care what anyone, or any entity, thinks about their actions.
@sarahallenhumboldt2638 but they DO care about their ego and loss of power.
Not just to be exposed the Biggest fear for people like Jodie that comes across as a sociopathic sadistic narcisst personality type the biggest fear is for them /her to have to face their own Human Self and to connect with their own hidden parts..and why these parts became hidden.. and the Reality and Truth of what they have done to others especially children..
@@sarahallenhumboldt2638I have seen that in her and Ruby
@@khaleesireyna731they will just get followers in prison, they go after the weak minded
Jodi showed zero compassion for her clients. I hope the court and prision systems shows her zero compassion!!! What an absolute monster!
The Mormon church needs to address WHY they persisted in recommending Jodi. If they don’t cooperate a class action lawsuit may help the numerous victims.
She’s been harming her clients for years!
Don't see your name listed, interviewer; just want to let you know that you are good at your job.
Thank you for coming forth! This -- THIS -- is a "higher work."
Forward!
Thank you so much for covering this
Sorry to say this but the LDS is very messed up. Seems corrupted if the church supports Jodi Hildebrandt. Its also ironic the Jodi is guiding women to leave their husbands....most therapist try to save a marriage not separate them.
I'm interested to know how many of these couples ever came back together with their marriage restored in perfect harmony after doing all of this that Jodi told them to do. Like how can she say she knows the way to be a family again and to be perfect, when she wasn't even married, and none of her clients ever got back together.... crazy that anyone actually believed that.
Jodi actually was married back in the 90s. I believe it only lasted like just over a year though. She also has 2 adult children from that marriage.
I just realized that your comment says she "wasn't even married" not "wasn't ever married". So I might've misunderstood what you were saying.
Looks like Jodi was only interested in the money and not really helping people. Either that or she wasn’t interested in this woman because there was no husband to get rid of.
Face it Jodi is a witch on a broom spelled with a b
If it was just about the money, they why didn’t she just grab it and run? I think it’s more than that. I think she wanted to hurt people.
@@brianbommarito3376 , very possible. She has twisted thinking.
Thanks for this interview. Thanks to Brittany for sharing her experience.
Jodi: It's up to you 100% now pay me you distorted being!
Jodi's line of bull reminds me of some of the chatter and tactics $cientology uses. She may have well as said you have a body theatan causing that.
@@Halloween111 💯! Another similarity is how Mormon „bishops“ were using their relationship with this „therapist“ to collect dirt on their followers.
Scientology does that with their „auditing“ sessions, where members are getting pressured to reveal any and all dirty little secrets they may have. Which may be one of the reasons for why Tom Cruise never left that cult. He probably knows that Scientology could end him by making what they had been collecting on him public.
Not saying that Cruise may have committed crimes. But we all have a private life. Laying private information open can be damaging, even if nothing nefarious is involved.
As for Jodi, she obviously kept inventing „sex addictions“ or „porn addictions“ particularly men allegedly had. Which, amongst the largely sexually repressed and religious-doctrine-brainwashed American population equates to defamation.
So she literally got more out if speaking on the phone to OTHER patients than she did speaking with jodi one on one. Unsurprising, unfortunately
I think it comes across as jodi is jealous of people who are in relationships, and that disdain, for their partnership drove a lot of the way she would get couples to separate “if I can’t be happy, nobody else can be happy“
Let me be clear I don’t believe someone has to be in a partnership or marriage to be happy, but I think Jody had a chip on her shoulder about that.
@thecamykatherman I think that’s great insight!
You guys need to reach out to the Connexions members themselves and not just those who sought therapy for a couple of sessions. I’m sure there will be WAY more context and info given that way. Either way you guys are the best news source covering this story!
😂❤omg I found you in the comments! LOL I watch your channel. I was just about to comment that I wish they would come forward, but I have a bad feeling they are in hiding. I also have a feeling that we will be hearing so much more evidence against her.
@@lindsayb1329 haha awesome. Oh yeah for sure! Becky’s already changed all her profiles and even deleted stuff that I have screenshots of 🫣
I bet there are some divorced couples out there that want a refund.
I watch this channel to follow all the Mormon drama going on in Utah.😐
i am that....
Me too
What is it with Utah (Mormon) and with Florida?????
Poisoning, murders, prepping for end of days, NDE and now Jodi and Ruby - the common thread LDS Church !
Glad people are coming forward to talk about what kind of person she really is
Thanks Brittany, it's great that victims are speaking out and what happened with the children wasn't just a blip after years of being good...we all see how toxic witch j is!
My apologies that this is so long. This case has triggered an experience from many years ago.
We can't just start with blanket statements about all LDS people, all LDS Bishops, etc. In this particular case, everyone assumed that if a Bishop or Stake President recommended a certain therapist, that everything was OK. My wife and I faced very similar issues when we tried to help some children who were obviously being abused by their adoptive parents. No matter what we said or did, no one would believe or listen to us. Why? Because while there were COUNTLESS numbers of others who saw the abuse and talked about it, they were turned away or told to ignore it. We met with Bishops and Stake Presidents to no avail. When one of the children finally reached the age of 18, we took them in and were able to make a difference in her life. EVEN THEN, the adoptive family complained about us and once again we were told to leave it alone. We moved and the previous Stake President had our temple recommends canceled without authority to do it. That young lady that we "saved" is now safe and living a happy life, but not without continuing challenges. My questions are this: Where were the people who were supposed to be ministering to these families and abused children? Where were the Primary teachers, Sunday School teachers, Young Men's leaders, Relief Society? And the list goes on and on. Every single one of them are supposed to take mandatory abuse training.
From Richard G. Scott - Do not be discouraged if initially a bishop hesitates when you identify an abuser. Remember that predators are skillful at cultivating a public appearance of piety to mask their despicable acts.
People - start saying things and speaking up, no matter the consequences and no matter what authority says. While my wife and I went literally through hell and were actually sued (they eventually dropped the suit) by extended members of the family, but it was worth it to save this one young lady.
Oh, and as for my wife and I? We are very happy with our membership in the church and believe it with all our hearts and will never deny it no matter what. Brainwashed? Not really. The world is becoming increasingly complicated and evil is more prevalent that ever before. We combat it the best we can and can never be 100% in those battles, but keep trying and never give up.
Thank you so much! I had a similar experience with a child in my Primary class, I talked to the bishop about it and ended up being thrown under the bus by the bishop. Turned out he was long time friends of the child's parents. Am I sorry? He k no, I did what God would have me do. Did I leave the church?no. I also still believe. Getting sooo tired of all the Mormon bashing! So thank you for the positive light.
Thank you for coming forward and hoping others will do the same. Abuse prevented as something is terribly wrong with this church and the way that they sent folks to her
Thanks for sharing your story
This was a very interesting interview, Brian. I heard that Jodi does not have a degree in counseling. A counselor with a TH-cam channel reported that her degree is in Education psychology. Though she may have been licensed, it doesn't sound like she was qualified to be a counselor.
She has her Master's from the University of Utah in Educational Psychology. Her Bachelor's is from BYU.
Educational psychology is not for counseling. It's primarily supposed to be used for creating curriculums for schools.
To obtain a liscense you generally need X amount of supervised hours, extra CEUs, and to pass the rather expensive licensing exam. The exact requirements vary by state. It looks like Jodi spent 5 years working at a rehab clinic before venturing out on her own. In Jodi's case though it doesn't really matter how many hoops you jump through, she's just deluded with entitlement and grandosity and thinks rules don't apply to her.
You are doing a fantasic job giving a Platform for Jodi's Victims. Kudos, looking forward to additional investigative Reporting.
People pay money for a boot camp style group therapy, then they call each other for support? Not licensed therapists and groups are run by Life coaches…wow ,what a way to throw money to the wind. Mental health professionals need to be educated and licensed. Not wonder many damaged & divorced couples.
Like Lori vallow, Jodi thought she was above worldly accountability, like she got some mandate directly from a higher power. What is it about the lds church that leads to these particular extreme practices and beliefs compared to other organised religions?
It's NOT just the LDS church!! There are so many other groups that turn into cults, all you need is a charismatic person with a convincing story, and misguided followers. It's that simple. Personally, I think that people are scared, have been for a while, what with the horrible things happening in the world around us. Some people have such a need for guidance and reassurance that they will follow anyone who provides any sense of strength, however hollow it really is. That, in my observation, is how cults start and are maintained...til something happens to blow it all up. We just need to be very kind to each other, especially children!
This is getting crazier and crazier
Well that validates my take of Jodi.😮
If Jodie ever spoke to me like she did on her videos, i would have told her , youre taking yourself way to seriously...
Insightful interview. I appreciated hearing the personal experience from patient/client of Jodi Hildebrandt's. Very eye- opening to me. Thanks to the young lady for bravely coming forward and sharing. I know from my own experience that therapy/counseling is very personal and not something you want to share with just anyone. I commend her for doing so in light of the damaging results JH's methods have had on the Franke family. The words gaslighting and brainwashing come to mind...most disturbing that a troubled person such as JH believes she can help others when she herself needs help. I feel sad for those deluded from JH's practices.
so many great quotes from the Hildebeast: "it's time for impeccable honesty, rigorous responsibility and vulnerable humility" the irony..
this is a very eye opening interview!
From what I've heard about this case I don't understand why there was a plea agreement. I think the district attorney really dropped the ball on this one. She should be thrown under the jail. all those charges should have been first degree💯! With fraud charges thrown on top. I really hope the judge hits her with the maximum allowable under the plea agreement!
It took me almost a year and 6 different therapists appointments to find my therapist. Theres a whole lot of crazy out there claiming to be therapist 😅
Yep. A lot of people go into the field because they are messed up. Called them psychoterrorists and professional voyeurs in a text book I wrote back in the 90s.
All crimes against children should result in life in prison without parole.
From what I gathered from other interviews and posts, after Adam Steed reported Jodi and there was a story about it in the paper, the LDS church distanced themselves from her and publicly stated she was no longer on the LDS Family Services referral list. But according to this interview, she was still being referred by bishops and paid for by LDS Family Services. I am not sure which is worse, the church continuing to use her formally as a referred therapist after the fact or going along referring her “off the books”. She was still getting paid by LDS Family Services. It seems so nefarious to me that they used the bare minimum of loopholes to still use her and pay her.
And blessing her!
I think there is child trafficking going on
So Disturbing & Very Sad! 🙏😥🙏😥
10 years, TEN YEARS dealing with Psychs!! And I have not met a good Psychiatrists/ Psychologists/ Psych Nurses/ Therapist/ Anyone with a Psych background, NONE!! The only 1 or 2 seemingly “good” ones play good cop bad cop with their colleagues.
All psychs are rotten to the core, there is something inherently wrong with Psychiatry itself. I don’t think good people will be comfortable or okay with 🔒 up innocent people at Psych wards, tying them, escalating situations just to find some st00pid excuse to 🔒 them and tie them, then put them on lifelong medication that don’t cure anything and do nothing but side effects!!
U wanna improve urselves? Find a good church community, if u are not a Christian maybe find a life coach or mentor. Go pick up a hobby, join classes. Talk to your friends or none Psych counsellors. Go exercise and do things that bring u joy and enrich u , things which are not harmful to urself or others.
Anyone or any other option will be far better then PSYCHS!! 🤢🤮
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Psychiatry is atrocious! 👎🏻
I honestly don’t know why anyone would recommend Psychiatry, that type of old fashion thinking that Psychiatrists help anyone nearly k*lled me. I was never suycidal till I encountered the Psychiatric system. They really ab*se patients claiming its “help” but its obviously ab*se. If you break a leg, you go see the Dr, the Dr will prescribe you medication to heal your leg and wrap it in a cast. If you go see a Psychiatrist, they will misdiagnose you, tort*re you and ab*se you, giving the patient more problems and anger they never had in the first place. The patient will be put on meds for life! If you see a Dr for a broken leg, your leg should be healed in a few weeks to months and you don’t need the meds anymore. But a Psychiatrist?? LOL! You just throwing your life away by seeing them.
Find someone who practices joy based treatment and teaches you to fall in love with the miracle/gift of your one and only life.
People know how to have problems what they don't know how to have is joy.
But for medical-I know rather a lot of people killed or disabled by the wonderful world of pharmacology.
I liked listening to this woman and trust in her word. Further insight into the heinous Hilderbrandt
The Mormon church should pay and face the consequences for having this insane family therapist as one of their top family counselors for almost 20 yrs and for recommending her service to help church members and not doing anything about her wrong practices. The church should have known about her wrong practices in almost 20yrs.
Wonderful reporting! Ty!
As a therapist in Italy, my heart breaks. Except the harmful business approach, it goes against the professional conduct. The sessions in Italy are for a very fair fee and with a ln individual or group approach. I feel ao bad as persons like this bribe and also harm a complete professional category. Please know that there are good therapists all over the world and if you only have one split second a gutfeeling that a therapist doesn't feel ok, take it up or change!!
I hope everyone comes forward. Interview adam
I have had group counseling and this lady that taught me was in the same position as Jodi was teaching sessions to people who obviously need help, this lady I saw her name is Amy unless Jodi she doesn’t use shaming tatics to destroy others and drag them down further
Heck no she is extremely kindhearted and caring towards people she really values others and really puts others needs first above everything else, I love Amy she is the best, the most kindhearted, caring, and compassionate lady I have met in my entire life
Have we talked about the Jodi-Frankie intimate relationship yet? It actually explains a lot.
This interview is incredibly insightful and shows Jodi's M.O. behind the harm she's caused to ALL of her victims - she has a God complex and hates men.
How much was this program????
what's up with the blurred background and weird angles?
You can blur the background if you don't want others to see your home, car, what's going on behind you. It looks like she is doing the interview on her phone and looking down at it while he is conducting the interview facing the computer camera head on. Not all that strange in today's journlism world.
Where did Jodi Hildebrandt get the money to afford a 5 million dollar fortress? She did NOT have that many clients, 10 women in a phone circle. What is the connection? WHY did the Mormon Church promote and pay Jodi Hildebrandt?
Jodi got an astounding amount of money overcharging for her services and programs. She was charging some people thousands of dollars, especially for her connexion programs!
A lot of people inherit the money from their parents or whatever
How are those not shut down ??? Putting kids out to the wilderness???
"maybe a little aggressive.."
she tortures children.
I'm a bit weary about this lady. The person who referred her to Jodi was a 'friend of a friend' and she couldn't remember the friend's name if she tried?? I really can't remember anything, but I would absolutely know the answer to that question. Now, this isn't to say that Jodi isn't terrible. She's 💯 an abusive, sadistic psychopath! Just watch out for other people with major personality disorders that attach themselves to things for attention.
Wow! I’d love you to interview her now after 6mo.
"Military style" (I'm thinking like boot camp; 'tough love'; sink or swim; wilderness survival...) Wow.
Because it became apparent that Jodi is no help.
What a terrible & creepy story. It is so good she was caught & stopped.
I mean Amy for example the councillor I see every 2 weeks wouldn’t make people feel bad for their horrible actions, instead she tries to say to people that everyone gets angry and everyone gets upset
She said to people they need to know how their feeling in the moment them if their upset remove yourself from the situation before you get out of control, she really does try to help people regulate their emotions
And she tries to help people to get away from the situation before you end up doing something horrible,
It seems to me that the amount of abuse you suffer from Jodi depends upon how high up the LDS shit list you are. Adam Steed really pissed them off and so did his dad so he got it bad. Jodi's niece got it bad because nobody in her life wanted to protect her. Whereas this lady was just a client who went through the books, so merely witnessed some bad things but gave the church no reason to traumatise her. I wonder if that will change now she has done this interview?
And I can’t imagine someone who is supposed to help people and get them feeling better about themselves would make them feel bad
Like I watched a video of a guy who said a man whoowned his own business got another apartment to separate himself from his wife and children, because Jodi said things that made him feel like looking at someone else’s psssing by him was wrong, she dragged him down amd made him feel horrible about his choices
And how other people where made to feel horrible about themselves, she made them feel like they were the problem
Brittany's so correct. Jodi is uncaring and cold. Of course if she can get something from you, she turns on the charm. But if not, you are banned!
Among all these adults, it took a 12 year old boy to take Jodi down.
I hate comparing apples to oranges, but I'm gonna do it here. This way of "counseling" that Jodi Hildebrandt did with members of the church, reminds me somewhat of the Landmark Forum (a personal development program). I took the Landmark Forum 7 yrs ago. They have very similar almost military style teachings when it comes to their classes. I called it emotional boot camp. They break you down emotionally, they will shame you when you are vulnerable about something going on in your life currently or in your past. It has messed up a lot of people, and even ruined some relationships with people. I didn't have that affect on me thank goodness, I wouldn't let it. But they use a lot of emotionally abusive tactics and yes it is a cult.
Cultish!!! Not Normal!!🚫😈🚫👿🚫👹🙏🙏🙏
Did you do an interview already with Adam Paul Steed?
Thank you Brittany for coming forward. Jodi just one word: NASTY. (PS/I like the way you Brittany you put yourself together, reminds me of a young Catherine Deneuve, very chic.)
who would spend money on people who don't even have a degree? r have anything? wow, Jodi and rubi were really so full of themselves!!
Her group was a cult! Wow
I feel so bad for her victims 😢
she wasn't there in the group sessions? so they were without guidance & feedback from her? wow, passive income. & then she had the group make mandatory phone calls? wtf? i never heard of that & i've had plenty of therapy as a recovering alcoholic. i'm thankful that most of it was phenomenal. i've had both at all sorts of places, alanon at alcare, a womens' recovery halfway house, at out patient hospital, rehab center, rape crisis, so many places & they saved my life. & never did any of them leave the group without therapists in the room. sometimes a few if the group was big enough. & they truly cared, & that was key. i've had crappy 'therapy' too. this woman had no business in this field. i bet she charged way more than other therapists. reading the other comments leaves me needing to keep looking at this case. i'm just looking into it, learning more every day.
ahe didnt really say anything but interesting
Thanks Brittany.
Oh my Lord😢
It very sad you go to get help. The people who you are supposed to help you take advantage of your problem. Very sad and very scary to have people in that area for help. All about the money. Very bad energy.
I hope they get what they deserve or more. Very sad to the people And the families.
Money scam not therapy
Multi level marketing therapy?.. how stunned can you be to participate? 😳
she said she went FOR SOMETHING NEW and other people were doing it, then said she said SHE WAS IN DEEP DESPAIR so sought help... so which was it, curiosity or need?
Not mutually exclusive.
This is 1980’s Encounter - Group modality, with Jodi as a a Duct- Tape Dominatrix, Therapist, Cult- Leader twist.
I think this plot was spun in the 2980’d by Cult Leader from San Francisco, Jim Jones, poisoned kool-Aid drinkers in his “end of times” suicide cult just 40 years ago?
As a therapist, it is unethical in the very least to continue therapy beyond three sessions without specific goals for therapy: barring rare exceptions.
I have no idea what the goals of this alleged “therapy” were.
It’s impossible to determine if her methods were useful or useless without a single goal defined for anything.
But for what ends or goals?
Therapy is not going to somebody and talking about your feelings and having rambling conversations about personal growth and insight.
That’s more encounter group shit that you can do on a weekend with a couple cases of beer up in the mountains.
This whole bullshit that “therapy equals counseling” is outdated.
“Therapy” is not:
1970s encounter, transactional stuff with a little bit of behaviorism thrown a few compassionate sprinkles of Toughlove.
Therapy is performed by licensed counselors.
That what JH did is therapy” is bullshit.
This lady was billing for therapy, and if she was billing insurance for therapy, then what she was doing is fraud on her ginormous scale
Did any federal health care dollars go to fund the so-called "therapy" by JH? I would also like to know what her credentials were to be offering counseling. Mormons licensing Mormons, I bet.
She was licenced by the state of Utah.
Very interesting video
are the group therapy sessions still happening?
Holy guacamole! This woman is downright EVIL! (Hildebrandt, not the client!)
I dont understand why these bishops and Jodi-like therapists are so insistent in spreading misery and malice. I will never ever understand
Maybe Driven.. demon possessed!! 🚫👿🚫😈🚫👹💀🙏🙏🙏
Trusting a church with your children's mental health and guidance is dangerous; how do parents not know this?.
Oh WOW she didn’t have a license to do it anymore that seems to be what she told this lady! She is a very angry person! She didn’t have a license.. JODI didn’t have a license?????
Thank God Lori Vallow never went the psychologist root. Something stinks in that beautiful landscape of Utah