@@TheCrayonMaster only characters that made it out alive in character were the ones killed when the white walkers came (jorah and theon) every one else... what are these decisions??? i will forever complain about dany and that's the main thing in the fandom but i can't name ONE character that is in character
@@nightfrost1891 Not sure what you mean by in character, but if you mean a character D & D didn't ruin, I'd throw Davos in there. Liam Cunningham simply cannot portray a character badly. He could eat paint chips and somehow it would be entertaining.
Arya saying she doesn't need many allies.. Meanwhile she wouldn't be alive if not for people like Syrio Forrel, Yoren, Gendry, The Hound, Jaqen H'ghar, Beric Dondarrion, the actress that took care of her wounds and I am probably forgetting some, none of which was related to her.
Dany IS right... It doesn't matter if Jon wants the crown or not. Its the REALM that decides with their dissent and men at arms. A male is always preferred as ruler just like in ancient history. But on the other side of the coin - of course Jon would like the idea of embracing who he truly is in a way. If only because he's always been viewed differently/negatively as a bastard. Really interesting dynamic.
she's also throwing a tantrum because she's surrounded by people who like Jon more than they like her and is going on about him taking what is hers - well, it's not actually hers. She's acting like a spoiled child that had her favourite toy taken away.
Considering what her journey was to claim the iron throne compared to Jon who never wanted it but simply pulled support because he was a dude...on top of everything i mentioned in my original post. Yeah. I'd be chucking a tantrum too. @jessicaottingmeyer3830 @@Luthwen1301
@@Luthwen1301its because the throne became her entire identity. But it was never going to fill the void of having no home. She was always chasing the house with the red door but she was never going to be able to let go of the power her brother & husband & followers falsely taught her was the only thing that mattered.
Her feelings interrupted with the true facts which makes her a dreadful leader towards the end. Don’t matter who u lose or what shit happens you have to act on the behalf of the realm. She knows John is a better leader by a long ass mile.
"Is marrying your aunt common in the North?" Well, it actually did happen a couple of times, and Jon's grandfather was married to his first cousin. So... Incest in Westeros is only between parent and child or between siblings. Jon and Daenerys hooking up would be perfectly okay to the people of Westeros.
There are at least two half-uncle/half-niece marriages in the Stark family and not that long ago. (Although that is about the genetic equivalent of first cousins, so not quite the same as full aunt and nephew. Only really a question if they have children, and Daenerys doesn't think she can.)
this is why the only thing is so absurd like they would act it's some weird thing when for targaryen's it's like tame af, even starks would be okay with it like d&d are weird for this i know ~modern standards~ it's obviously effed up but in this world at this time? let's be serious lannisters are bad because they are lannisters AND twins jon and dany both have claim to the throne so the best course of option would be unite them and both rule, solves a lot of issues
I love that you two are actually nuanced in your reactions to Dany! Yes it’s unsettling what’s happening with her but she’s going through a lot of traumatic shit all At once. Almost no one I see react to this ever acknowledges that Daenerys has been pretty fucked over this season. She 100% correctly assumed what would happen if Jon told Sansa, she has done nothing but follow her advisors advice and it’s gone horribly, she lost a huge amount of her force defending the north, and they just killed her best friend in front of her. Of course she’s getting pushed to a breaking point!
@bryceratliff9194 • Thank you! It’s in these last episodes I decide if I’m going to roll w/reactors to the end or not. I agree 100%. I feel like Daenerys is the only one who no one wants her to have natural emotions of hurt or anger! And reactor’s don’t want her to retaliate or get upset?! She has lived through serious trauma and so much loss! *how she was treated by her brother *sold to the Dothraki *losing Drogo & miscarrying *putting her trust in people only to constantly be betrayed *keep trusting people who are not helping her at all *losing John *watching her children get killed in front of her! *And now her sweet, loyal and beautiful best friend beheaded in front of her & *Greyworm! *F off to everyone! Some don’t bat an eye at children being crucified alive but wince at the “slavers” getting the same treatment?! Tyrion can give that speech to the public how he wished they all had burned & died but Daenerys can’t talk the same?! Disgusting Cersei blows up the sept, innocent people and that part of kings landing when the bell k*lls people outside too. But not Daenerys?! Sorry for the rant!🤭😅
I agree and not spoilers here as they’ve finished season. Danny has been through it this season. I don’t like her burning thousands of people in the next ep and think the ending could’ve been handled better. Obviously have her ordering an all out attack following these events, it’s the burning of countless civilians that I thought was stupid. But all aside nothing annoys me more than bland Bran being king
After watching Rhaegal's death and Missandei's head being chopped off, I remembered screaming "BURN THEM ALL" (which was basically what Missandei told Dany seconds before she died). I wanted to see King's Landing reduced to ashes. I was not disappointed.
You stating in reference to Sansa, 'Surely there are better ways to grow', yessssss 1000% times yes! It always give me the icks when the plot is a girl not growing up unless shes assaulted by men :(
Yet whatever hardship it is its still what people overcome to grow. They show many different ways people grow throughout the show & this was a great way to combine the storylines in the book & have Sansa demonstrate this hardship.
I hated that Bron was so willing to kill Tyrion but it’s true to his character unfortunately. He said he’s willing to kill an infant for a price, so of course he’ll kill Tyrion
You are right on there. He's always been out for himself. Any decision he's made is based on who he believes will pay him more. He was with Tyrion because that was the only rich person he knew. He didn't fight and win the trial by combat because he liked Tyrion. He saw it as a way to ensure a very rich man was in his debt. He didn't go to Dorne because he and Jamie were best buds. He went because he was promised more gold and a castle. Braun always looking out for Braun.
@@jdrussell3828kill a few people they make u a knight kill a few more they make u a lord, from see bron of what ever shet hole to ser bron of the black water and to high lord bron of high garden
Remember what Tyrion said. Bronn's actions aren't too unlike Bronn to be fair. Bronn: "I'm sorry it has to be this way" Tyrion: "Why are you sorry? Because you're an evil bastard with no conscience and no heart? That's what I liked about you in the first place."
That opening funeral was well made. As the camera panned up to Ser Jorah it still broke me because he was gone. All these great characters gone. That speech from Jon was one of Kit Harington's best moments.
I think Dani’s response to learning of Johns true parents and asking him not to tell anyone is reasonable. She’s right after all, they would make him press his claim and it would cause a new war cause she wouldn’t give up her crown. In the books there’s another ‘Targaryen’ who’s attacking Westeros to claim the throne, so I’m interested to see how she handles that when its actually published
@@moonlitskylight5740 yeah I see that; but in her mind, she wears the crown for the/ her people. To make the world a better place: to break the wheel. She she doesn’t see it the same way, based on her experience with the dragons she definitely sees herself as more. Just how I read it though 🤷🏻♀️ it’s all valid tbh
@@moonlitskylight5740 It's fairly reasonable considering how quickly her own advisors turned against her the moment they found out that a male heir was there for the taking. She was right to be worried. The entire history in the Song of Ice and Fire universe has shown that people will literally murder, kinslay and start wars rather than see a woman be put on the throne, no matter how much she has a right to it. Why would she give it up? Why should she? What other ruler would, except for the single man who doesn't want it and refuses it? No man that was vying for the throne would've given it up either, so why the fuck does that standard have to apply to her?
@@S1INS because she's literally not next in line. She's been droning on about her birthright ever since her brother died. Turns out it's not her birthright after all, yet all of a sudden the line of succession means nothing to her. Bit hypocritical imo. Sam put it perfectly - she would not give up the crown for her people because she's suffering from megalomania. Megalomaniacs hardly make good rulers, ever.
@omniversalnihilist Beacuse he’s a dude? Lol If that’s your reasoning, I can promise whatever else you have to say, I’m not interested in hearing. I’m Team Black for a reason.
Emilia Clarke played that last bit at the end very good without saying a thing. The slow build up of rage and hatred in her look and facial expressions, even the little twitches on her face. Dany has now lost everyone she loves and kept her impulses in check, except Jon. If Jon hadn't distance himself from her and kept the relationship going like it was, things may have been different. I think Jamie deep down really hates himself, for his life experiences and what he has done in the past. He probably believes he doesn't deserve true happiness like he would find in Brianne, he only deserves trash like Cersei. And also unfortunately he's addicted to that toxic relationship with her, like many people are in real life.
"If Jon didn't stop doing what I wanted no matter how it affected him I would have suddenly trusted him & been OK sharing the power I have craved for decades but that was never going to fulfill me"
30:45 the way I stood up and screamed 'BURN THEM ALLLLL!!!!" My neighbors came to check on me. 🤣🤣 It was so fucking stupid that she didn't see an armada of ships that weren't hers.
I have found that people who binge GoT don’t seem as affected by the final seasons as those of us who watched them as they aired. I think the having to wait made us much less forgiving with the stuff we were given
I never had a huge issue with season 8, and I'd watched it from season 1 episode 1. Its not my favourite season, maybe 6th or 7th out of all 8 and I think an extra episode would've been nice to pull the thread on some of the stories a little further. Season 5 on the other hand was a drag in my opinion, Dany's and Arya's stories were boring, Hardhome was a let down and the Drogon Ex Machina at the end of the season made me roll my eyes.
Let's be really, really real: most of the people who binge the entire series over a period of months don't absorb nearly as much of it as those of us who watched it season to season. TH-cam is full of reactors who are on, like, the sixth season and still can't remember basic stuff like Bran's name or that King's Landing is the capital. They miss half the dialogue by talking over it, so of course they have a shallower relationship with the show, and the serious flaws of the final seasons don't land the same way with them. I'm not trying to bag on anyone, it's just what I've seen.
That's because we didnt have the time to dive deep into the lore like you did. We didn't talk with other people at work over the last episode and what is possible going around in the next one. I binge GoT in less of two weeks. Everyday Nonstop, the first thing in the morning? GoT The last thing in the night? GoT For me, as a binge watcher, I loved the show, even Season 7&8 it doesn't feel wrong at all. Would rate it a 8 or 9 out of 10. The fight against the night King? A 10/10. But, after I binge it I watched a bunch of lore Videos, Podcast and talket with people over it. I now understand why people hate it BUT the feeling I had while watching this show in less then 2 Weeks, day and night, can't be broken because of the shit writing. Ygritte would say ,,Dirk you know nothing''
I'm with you Cody for 8 seasons they built up the White Walkers as THE ultimate enemy and after many stare downs with Jon it's Arya who kills him in my opinion this should have been The last episode The battle Life vs Death
It's not LotR, so i think subverting expectations in itself is a very good thing, makes it more interesting. But of course, you still have to do it in a satisfying way, and that wasn't really the case, yeah.
“I can’t blame her! HOW can you BLAME her!?” FINALLY someone gets it!! In my opinion, King’s Landing’s fate started building up the moment she lost Viserion. She held her emotions together after all the people she lost and killing Missandei, who is not only her bestfriend, but was the first piece of Dany’s mission to free the people, was the last straw. It was crystal clear in her face. And the fact that some people believe she was wrong for what she did to King’s Landing after all she’s been through is just insanity.
She was literally being reasonable not cause any harm and go the peaceful route but this is Cersei we’re talking about and she plays dirty so that was the last straw. But this season is just garbage and people are trying to justify it is beyond me it sucked and there are countless plot holes plot armor and twist that are very predictable and cliche that it makes no sense and more questions are being asked. Even the cast were disappointed in the season Peter subtly shades it Emilia was nice about it but laughed kit flat out said it’s “disappointing “ like it bombed all because these two idiots wanted to do Star Wars
@@ACinemafanatic I feel you but honestly? Different folks, different strokes 🤷🏾♂️ lol. My ONLY problems with the last season is what transpired between Jon and Dany and Cersei not being brutally killed by Dany and Drogon.
My only issue was the small folk that she killed - they were innocent 100% she could’ve gone to the red keep after destroying the harpoon thingies. Leave the people alone. That was my issue, they didn’t betray her, the were corralled into the city.
@@monlovchel In my opinion, when the balls rang, Dany was so full of rage that she decided everything that reminded her of cersei had to go. Furthermore, Cersei sealed their fate BY coralling them into the city 🤷🏾♂️.
@@monlovchelyet these the same people that cheered for Ned’s head and even ate folks up when they were starving they’re really no better then the people who are in higher ranks to them. I don’t recall people caring about them when Cersei blew up the Sept and a few of the citizens were caught in the explosion
I understand that Jon wanted to tell Arya and Sansa about who he is but since he really didn't want to be king, he could've waited and told them after Dany claimed the iron throne. If he would've kept it a secret for just a few more days, we could've avoided the fallout.
Claiming the throne wouldn't have changed anything? The throne can change hands over and over. Its never reasonable to ask someone to lie just so you get your way. She didn't want to share. She didn't want the rightful heir Aegon she wanted the bastard who way 'less' than her.
I just wanna say how amazing it’s been watching this journey with you guys. And it’s also amazing how fast you’ve gone thru it. I have another channel I’m watching someone do this also they are a year in and only on season 5 ep 4…. I’ve about lost interest.
That's for me with some Buffy reactiors. I know they have other obligations but c'mon. Some of them got through S1-5 in a year and a half and now they are dragging it out so much it takes them half a year to go through 5 episodes.... So I really, really love and appreciate Bridgeco's upload speed.
Are you a flat earther? They are not just out in open water they are coming from behind the cliffs in the straight. Just being up high doesn't mean you see everything especially out of your peripheral vision or that is lower than other land masses around.
The Bronn thing is completely in character. From day one we've known Bronn is a mercenary. Remember when asked if he would kill babies when ordered to, without question? He replied no, NOT without question... his question would be "For how much?" His own welfare, riches and status and such will always come first. That's who and what he has been this whole time. Yes, he is friendly with Tyrion and that's probably the only reason he talked to them first at all.
Cersei sending Bronn to do this is not. She would have sent him to turn her brothers to her side again. The writing is making her a cheap villain because that's all the stupid audience wants at this stage.
@@Leo_ofRedKeep I disagree that she would have sent Bronn to turn them. She's always had hatred for Tyrion and has often thought about killing him, she just couldn't bring herself to actually be the one to do it. Then, Jamie turned his back on her and, as we know, she is a very scornful petty woman.
Still waiting for anyone to explain how Urine got so many spears into the dragon (choosing that one instead of the important one) without Dany seeing those ships from thousands of feet in the air. So unbelievably stupid.
“Without Ramsay and Jeoffrey and the rest I would’ve stayed a little bird all my life” ah yes, hear that young women? If you want to grow up to be strong and capable just let psychos abuse and assault you. Ugh the writing of these last two seasons is 😵💫
fun fact: at 11:44 there is a fixed vfx shot of tormund, during the live broadcast of this episode millions of people saw a starbucks coffee cup next to the mother of dragons
Everyone Dany has loved is dead other than Jon and hes being so cold towards her :(((( Fucking Sansa immediately telling Tyrion, Jon not saying goodbye to Ghost, Viseryion being shot out of the sky :((( This episode man...
Sansa trash for that she just wants power like in season 7 she was jealous of Jon being king of the north and was hoping he wouldn’t come back and was gonna kill Arya
Jon didn't say goodbye to Ghost because it was too painful. The look he gives him made that obvious to me. Goodbye would be too final. And perhaps Jon deep down knows either Dany will keep him in a guided cage to protect her false legitimacy or kill him and he'll have to act & be back to be with Ghost again one day (or at least that's good secret hope).
It's been almost 5 years and you losers are still waiting for someone to watch these episodes so you can come in the comments and make the same lame complaints
When this aired the first time they had coffee cups in at the table. 👀 which brought on some pretty comical moments on late night interviews with people throwing one another under the bus lol
Please don't apologize for the long intro I love hearing your guys in depth thoughts. Also... Brienne is a Lady (though she doesn't like to be) it would be considered a bad thing by their standards for her to have "lost her virtue." Tyrion saying that she's a virgin like...duh!
I guess you know by now that Jon did save the world in the end…but not from the known one, but from an unexpected threat. He had a bigger purpose, but the threat wasn’t what we thought
Well you see, Danerys kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet. She and the dragons saw all those ships and just thought it was a flotilla of some kind. But the Iron Fleet hadn’t forgotten about her!
Are you a flat earther? They are not just out in open water they are coming from behind the cliffs in the straight. Just being up high doesn't mean you see everything especially out of your peripheral vision or that is lower than other land masses around.
@@amyburt9193I remember shaking in the bells episode because it was so devastating people say I’m being overdramatic but Daenerys meant a lot to me out of every other character even Jon to see her liberate herself and stand up against her brother and right the wrongs of what her ancestors did was phenomenal and to see it crash in such a terrible way was heartbreaking all because the show runners didn’t like her character and make Jon the hero it was cliche and stupid that’s why when the finale aired they turned off their phones because they knew it was bad
@@ACinemafanatic I totally get it. I emotionally shut down watching it. Was just in disbelief thinking "no, this can't be the story, this is a dream, it'll stop, wait for it to stop". I got the same exact feeling watching their ep5 video this morning. It's just so utterly sad to see what D&D did to this show. The only thing that makes it tiniest bit better is that they lost Star Wars because of it.
Honestly we have had so many people that don’t rightfully deserve the throne sit on it and the realm suffers for it. John being the RIGHTFUL ruler and not wanting it , is what we need
Bran doesn't want it & is rightful by vote not blood of a king few remembers. Jon gets freedom beyond the wall. I'd never want him to be forced to carry MORE than he already has.
Well put, Cody. Glad you are beginning to see and understand why the frustration sets in. You saw that even when she tried doing things peacefully, Dany's army took a massive hit and she lost two children because of the decisions of the men around her.. which is bizarre because in season 1 to 6, Varys and Tyrion were the smartest, most cunning men in Westeros. BURN IT ALL!
She lost her dragons and people around her due to her bad decisions. They went north to prove the Others existed for her & she repeatedly chose fire & blood throughout the entire series when no one stopped her. Tyrion is clever. That doesn't mean smart or magically a battle tactician or able to outsmart his sister who was actually listening to their dad all their lives when he wasn't.
i dont know how you wait for the next episode - i held off for years watching then i binge watched the whole lot in 4 and a half days, that wasnt my plan for that week lol
It was too hard to say goodbye. Too final. Though I wonder if Jon deep down knew his heart was beyond the wall, free, and he knew he would find his way back because Dany only wanted the bastard & never would have accepted Aegon.
@25:46 What's even funnier than that previous Bronn scene is that no one asks about the "Hero of the Winterfell" will be for the "Last War." Maybe some PTO. 😆
It makes less sense, that Dany and her dragons overlooked them and straight flew into range. And her fleet also fails to spot them - while they were waaay too close. Must have been some people with eye problems and a good portion of distraction at play here.
Robin Hood , i mean Eurion was 3 for 3 with Ballistas from at least 500' on a moving target and missed a much close target coming straight at you with multiple ballistas come on !! 🤬🤬🤬
Well, how much sense does it make when good guys and bad guys enter a shootout and every single bad guy dies while the good guys emerge unscathed? Such plot machinations are never a problem when they work in favor of the good guys, but when good guys are downed right when they are supposed to be on the final upswing to glorious victory, all of a sudden everyone is an expert in crossbow ballistics. As for the whole accuracy discussion, not much needed to hit a slow moving target unaware of your presence. Dany was frolicking in the clouds completely not bothering to check what's on the ground, plus Rhaegal himself obscured Dany's view of the Iron Fleet.
@@SerbAtheist Sure, some things never make sense. But here it is a huge plot point, to kill Danys second dragon, destroy her fleet and capture (and later kill) Missandei. This should not have been done so cheap. Like they had no other clue, how to make this happen with storytelling and just opted out for the cheapest and quickest way possible. You could argue about some other cheap deaths, like for example that of Sir Barristan, which was cheap and unworthy for his character too. But there is was kind of acceptable. And this scene is easily be fixable to make logical sense, without changing the outcome and all of this still in the same episode: Let Euron attack their fleet. He might have an advantage with speed, due to wind, ship design etc. And he is a skilled sea warrior. Add ballista attacks, if you really want to, why not. Dany spots this on her dragon, wants to warn them, but fails. She then joins the battle, to help out against Euron. Now she is in ballista range of Eurons ships. Now they shoot down dragon no. 2. Dany stops supporting her fleet, fleet gets destroyed, Missandei gets captured. Same thing, but now it makes sense. Surprising her in her position of advantage, high up in the sky, doesn't.
Yeah see back when these episodes came out, I felt like I was the only person that saw it coming. Everyone else was like "Durr, I didn't see Dany getting mad! That was so sudden!" Yet you guys at least have been saying it for a while that she is being impulsive and rash and that you even said the would be justified in just burning all of King's Landing! (Its okay, no spoilers here as I know they already watched Episode 8x5)
the whole world was mad that jon didnt pet ghost. apparently it was expensive every time they touched the direwolves, but they really shoulda done it that time.
@@JakeMurphy_ that's a way one could explain it, but it just seems lazy imo. Just look how huge Grey Wind was in season 2/3 and then we have husky sized Ghost years and years later.
It was too hard to say goodbye. Too final. Though I wonder if Jon deep down knew his heart was beyond the wall, free, and he knew he would find his way back because Dany only wanted the bastard & never would have accepted Aegon.
Realistically, the army of the dead could only ever have been a distraction, a Side Quest, if you will. The show is not and was never about the Army of the Dead: it is called Game of Thrones. The story is about the struggle to attain the Iron Throne. ANYTHING else is secondary, or an obstacle to the final determination of who gets it.
True fan of the show. I never hated an episode. I enjoyed this til the end. I didn't agree with the ending But it made sense. Draw your own conclusion.
@@Leo_ofRedKeepthe writing was terrible which is why George left after season 4 because they already ruined so much. This show had the potential to end on such a fantastic way and they failed because they had no passion for it and wanted to do Star Wars
@@ACinemafanatic They intentionally dumbed down to reach the level of mass TV audience. The plan was 7 seasons all along, long before Star Wars came into the picture, then they added an 8th season and took two years for it. The "rushing to Star Wars" argument is a stupidity.
I don't know if it's very difficult to know who would rule better. Daenerys: she survived her brother's abuse; she was sold into marriage; she survived Drogo's daily rapes; she survived the fire and brought the dragons back to life; she led her people through the desert to safety; she dominated 3 powerful cities; freed enslaved people; gave up on her dreams to continue fighting for her children's freedom; she trapped the dragons so they wouldn't hurt anyone; she managed, through diplomacy, to rule a very powerful city. And Jon: Snow Jokes aside, Jon doesn't have what it takes (and doesn't even want) to rule a kingdom. He did well on the Watch, but that was it. He had a very good and privileged life, without knowing what the common people suffer. His place is in the North.
Daenerys managed to convince herself to fight for a certain cause, but her primary motivation has been to take the throne because it belongs to her. She has been “I will burn your city to the ground if you don’t give in to me” literally since season 2. And she’s had to be convinced by others with increasing frequency that “hey maybe let’s not do mass murder,” by Jorah and Barristan and Tyrion.
I would argue Dany’s more of a conqueror than a ruler. Look what happened in Meereen. She made mistake after mistake which led to a battle and she ended up killing a shit ton of people so she could move on to the next location.
@@1080lights And what's the problem with that? Everyone in this series has killed a bunch of people for disobedience. Jon killed a lot of people to take Winterfell back from Ramsey and eliminate him once and for all so the Starks could stay safe. Tyrion killed a lot of people in the war, Robb killed a lot of people to be king. Everyone killed to get what they want and also killed when they were disobeyed. Why can't Daeneryz do the same?
@@sivannatalie She stayed in Meereen to prevent what happened to Astapor and Yunkai. So she conquered and then she ruled it very well. It wasn't perfect because she had enemies, but given time, she would get piece.
No. Jon was raised to be a steward. He knows how to lead, to make compromises, how to gain support and how to do it right. Yes, he had to make difficult decissions. Dany forced her way though. She doesn't know how to compromise - which is an impossible trait for a ruler. Btw: she failed with all 3 cities.
Jon in season 8: “I love you” Also Jon: “this would conclude way too easily if I did love you so how about I kind of love you and we never really talk about it”
This is the episode which made me hate Sansa even more and so does Arya, she says she doesn't want allies, first of all she wouldn't have been alive if not for some stranger helping her and she had been dragged by others helps all the way. Helped in escaping Kings landing, helped at way to Wall, helped at Harrehhal helped at Braavos helped at Winterfell in the Great war. And also she was meant to be no one
I’ve always hated show Sansa. Seemed like S 4 was the beginning of book Sansa but the writers blew it after that. I hope the Snow sequel kills her off.
@@shockwave1126I doubt we’re still getting a Snow spinoff because the north is not strong enough to carry a show tbh not even Jon snow can it’s pretty much pointless
Exactly and people wondered why Ned never told Cat about Jon’s true identity. Sansa wants power as well people fail to realize that she’s not innocent in this either and in the script for season 7 she’s jealous of Jon being the king of the north which is why she calls him out in public and was considering killing Arya if it wasn’t for bran revealing littlefingers intentions
I pretend this season never happened and I'm waiting for the real ending. Martins written 1100 pages so far. Maybe he might finish before the Apocalypse
For the throne question, why people hated the ending, they didn't hate the actual ending of the series, they hated the ending with Arya killing the night king, which I thought was fantastic The funny thing is people said it all ended anticlimactically and I believe those people need a thesaurus.. Arya coming in like a freaking badass when all hope was lost to do the most brutal move when dropping the dagger and catching it in her other hand Arya working her ass off and training with the sword for over 7 years and then trained hard for 2 years(yes, in the series it seemed like just a few weeks) to become a brutal faceless man and people said the night king got "randomly killed" by a little girl, I say nay, it was all but anticlimactic, it was a freakin nice end to the night king Sansa was right, it is through hardships that we grow, "ad astra per aspera"
There's a lot of things in GOT that make you mad but there is something about that moment when jon didn't pat his direwolf goodbye that upset the fandom in a special way. I'm still furious a decade later.
It was too hard to say goodbye. Too final. Though I wonder if Jon deep down knew his heart was beyond the wall, free, and he knew he would find his way back because Dany only wanted the bastard & never would have accepted Aegon. It made him doing it in the final episode better.
Watching the both of you guys reaction to when that dragon bit the bullet certainly reminded me of what I and the rest of the viewers felt when this episode aired for the first time; just complete and utter disbelief at what we were seeing. 👀
Are you a flat earther? They are not just out in open water they are coming from behind the cliffs in the straight. Just being up high doesn't mean you see everything especially out of your peripheral vision or that is lower than other land masses around.
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When Cody said "Bran is Broken" my eyes were like 👀 😂
Mine to 😂
I flinched haha
Raised brow
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He's clearly seen this show before 😂😂
I'm here for Bridget's reactions, they're gold
“If he runs back to his sister I’ll lose my fucking mind.” Get ready, Cody. Get ready to be absolutely astonished lmao
D & D absolutely destroyed character arcs in season 8, it's infuriating.
@@TheCrayonMaster only characters that made it out alive in character were the ones killed when the white walkers came (jorah and theon) every one else... what are these decisions??? i will forever complain about dany and that's the main thing in the fandom but i can't name ONE character that is in character
@@nightfrost1891 The Hound and Theon are the only characters who got a decent ending.
@@nightfrost1891 Not sure what you mean by in character, but if you mean a character D & D didn't ruin, I'd throw Davos in there. Liam Cunningham simply cannot portray a character badly. He could eat paint chips and somehow it would be entertaining.
@@nightfrost1891 The absolute character obliteration they did on Dany will forever have me upset
Arya saying she doesn't need many allies.. Meanwhile she wouldn't be alive if not for people like Syrio Forrel, Yoren, Gendry, The Hound, Jaqen H'ghar, Beric Dondarrion, the actress that took care of her wounds and I am probably forgetting some, none of which was related to her.
She was Arya back then, now she’s not.
@@DWQJVB Yeah, I forgot, she is now supposed to be an immortal superhero assassin. That's what GoTs writing came to be like in that season.
@@Gilmaru it was the best writing in the history of the world
That's still a relatively small circle in comparison to armies and kingdoms.
That’s still not many allies…
Tyrions arc the last two season. “I know what my sister will do.”
Narrator, “In fact Tyrion did NOT know what Cercei would do.”
I read that in Morgan Freeman's voice. 😂
@@kimmcsharry4256 best way you could have read it.
@@kimmcsharry4256same!!
Tyrion became a drunken fool since season 5 started all because they left out a big plot point in his turn to being a villain
@@ACinemafanatic yeah. Part of me thing GRR Martin told them a bunch of wrong stuff so his books will look much better when the rest come out.
" if I call you my sister just roll with it " made me spit out my drink 🤣🤣🤣
💀
what an epic line, i lost it
16:19
„I‘m no one. Brother is a bird.“
I can’t. 💀
Dany IS right... It doesn't matter if Jon wants the crown or not. Its the REALM that decides with their dissent and men at arms. A male is always preferred as ruler just like in ancient history. But on the other side of the coin - of course Jon would like the idea of embracing who he truly is in a way. If only because he's always been viewed differently/negatively as a bastard. Really interesting dynamic.
she's also throwing a tantrum because she's surrounded by people who like Jon more than they like her and is going on about him taking what is hers - well, it's not actually hers. She's acting like a spoiled child that had her favourite toy taken away.
Considering what her journey was to claim the iron throne compared to Jon who never wanted it but simply pulled support because he was a dude...on top of everything i mentioned in my original post. Yeah. I'd be chucking a tantrum too.
@jessicaottingmeyer3830 @@Luthwen1301
@@Luthwen1301its because the throne became her entire identity. But it was never going to fill the void of having no home. She was always chasing the house with the red door but she was never going to be able to let go of the power her brother & husband & followers falsely taught her was the only thing that mattered.
an interesting dynamic that is thrown away by bad writing of the character danny
Bran using his powers to scroll through wheelchairs.
Remember what Lady Olenna said to Dany. "Be a Dragon!"
Should have done that from the the get go- be the dragon.
Her feelings interrupted with the true facts which makes her a dreadful leader towards the end. Don’t matter who u lose or what shit happens you have to act on the behalf of the realm. She knows John is a better leader by a long ass mile.
❤the Hagrid insert.. "should not have said that" 😅😅
So good 😆🤌
😂😂😂accurate
O no you forgot lil Lady Mormont in the graveyard. The littlest fighter taking out the biggest
They said it later in reaction.
"Is marrying your aunt common in the North?" Well, it actually did happen a couple of times, and Jon's grandfather was married to his first cousin. So...
Incest in Westeros is only between parent and child or between siblings. Jon and Daenerys hooking up would be perfectly okay to the people of Westeros.
There are at least two half-uncle/half-niece marriages in the Stark family and not that long ago. (Although that is about the genetic equivalent of first cousins, so not quite the same as full aunt and nephew. Only really a question if they have children, and Daenerys doesn't think she can.)
this is why the only thing is so absurd like they would act it's some weird thing when for targaryen's it's like tame af, even starks would be okay with it like d&d are weird for this
i know ~modern standards~ it's obviously effed up but in this world at this time? let's be serious
lannisters are bad because they are lannisters AND twins
jon and dany both have claim to the throne so the best course of option would be unite them and both rule, solves a lot of issues
@@nightfrost1891just because it happened, still rarely, didn't mean people agreed with it. Especially Jon.
I love that you two are actually nuanced in your reactions to Dany! Yes it’s unsettling what’s happening with her but she’s going through a lot of traumatic shit all At once. Almost no one I see react to this ever acknowledges that Daenerys has been pretty fucked over this season. She 100% correctly assumed what would happen if Jon told Sansa, she has done nothing but follow her advisors advice and it’s gone horribly, she lost a huge amount of her force defending the north, and they just killed her best friend in front of her. Of course she’s getting pushed to a breaking point!
How was she "fucked over"? Entitled foreign conqueror meets resistance. That's natural and justified. Only her stupid fans dislike it.
@bryceratliff9194 • Thank you! It’s in these last episodes I decide if I’m going to roll w/reactors to the end or not. I agree 100%. I feel like Daenerys is the only one who no one wants her to have natural emotions of hurt or anger! And reactor’s don’t want her to retaliate or get upset?!
She has lived through serious trauma and so much loss! *how she was treated by her brother *sold to the Dothraki *losing Drogo & miscarrying *putting her trust in people only to constantly be betrayed *keep trusting people who are not helping her at all *losing John *watching her children get killed in front of her! *And now her sweet, loyal and beautiful best friend beheaded in front of her & *Greyworm! *F off to everyone!
Some don’t bat an eye at children being crucified alive but wince at the “slavers” getting the same treatment?! Tyrion can give that speech to the public how he wished they all had burned & died but Daenerys can’t talk the same?! Disgusting Cersei blows up the sept, innocent people and that part of kings landing when the bell k*lls people outside too. But not Daenerys?! Sorry for the rant!🤭😅
I agree and not spoilers here as they’ve finished season. Danny has been through it this season. I don’t like her burning thousands of people in the next ep and think the ending could’ve been handled better. Obviously have her ordering an all out attack following these events, it’s the burning of countless civilians that I thought was stupid. But all aside nothing annoys me more than bland Bran being king
@omniversalnihilist by right it's not jon ether ,the targaryen lost their right
After watching Rhaegal's death and Missandei's head being chopped off, I remembered screaming "BURN THEM ALL" (which was basically what Missandei told Dany seconds before she died). I wanted to see King's Landing reduced to ashes. I was not disappointed.
17:18 - Jamie raises his arms like a 7 year old so she can take his shirt off 😅😅😅
😂😂😂
and the scene cut before we could see him ask for UPPIES
(innies?)
@16:15 when she says “ that’s not me “ it’s a call back to season 1 when her dad found needle and talked to her in her room !
You stating in reference to Sansa, 'Surely there are better ways to grow', yessssss 1000% times yes! It always give me the icks when the plot is a girl not growing up unless shes assaulted by men :(
Yet whatever hardship it is its still what people overcome to grow. They show many different ways people grow throughout the show & this was a great way to combine the storylines in the book & have Sansa demonstrate this hardship.
I hated that Bron was so willing to kill Tyrion but it’s true to his character unfortunately. He said he’s willing to kill an infant for a price, so of course he’ll kill Tyrion
This episode is one giant sequence of people complaining about characters staying true to themselves and not doing something completely different.
You are right on there. He's always been out for himself. Any decision he's made is based on who he believes will pay him more. He was with Tyrion because that was the only rich person he knew. He didn't fight and win the trial by combat because he liked Tyrion. He saw it as a way to ensure a very rich man was in his debt. He didn't go to Dorne because he and Jamie were best buds. He went because he was promised more gold and a castle. Braun always looking out for Braun.
@@jdrussell3828kill a few people they make u a knight kill a few more they make u a lord, from see bron of what ever shet hole to ser bron of the black water and to high lord bron of high garden
Lmfaooooo that edit of Hagrid saying “I should not have said that” actually made milk fly out of my nose 😭😭
Remember what Tyrion said. Bronn's actions aren't too unlike Bronn to be fair.
Bronn: "I'm sorry it has to be this way"
Tyrion: "Why are you sorry? Because you're an evil bastard with no conscience and no heart? That's what I liked about you in the first place."
That opening funeral was well made. As the camera panned up to Ser Jorah it still broke me because he was gone. All these great characters gone. That speech from Jon was one of Kit Harington's best moments.
I think Dani’s response to learning of Johns true parents and asking him not to tell anyone is reasonable. She’s right after all, they would make him press his claim and it would cause a new war cause she wouldn’t give up her crown.
In the books there’s another ‘Targaryen’ who’s attacking Westeros to claim the throne, so I’m interested to see how she handles that when its actually published
It's not that reasonable. Sam's line was the best when talking about it. He gave up his crown for his people, she wouldn't.
@@moonlitskylight5740 yeah I see that; but in her mind, she wears the crown for the/ her people. To make the world a better place: to break the wheel. She she doesn’t see it the same way, based on her experience with the dragons she definitely sees herself as more. Just how I read it though 🤷🏻♀️ it’s all valid tbh
@@moonlitskylight5740 It's fairly reasonable considering how quickly her own advisors turned against her the moment they found out that a male heir was there for the taking. She was right to be worried. The entire history in the Song of Ice and Fire universe has shown that people will literally murder, kinslay and start wars rather than see a woman be put on the throne, no matter how much she has a right to it. Why would she give it up? Why should she? What other ruler would, except for the single man who doesn't want it and refuses it? No man that was vying for the throne would've given it up either, so why the fuck does that standard have to apply to her?
@@S1INS because she's literally not next in line. She's been droning on about her birthright ever since her brother died. Turns out it's not her birthright after all, yet all of a sudden the line of succession means nothing to her. Bit hypocritical imo. Sam put it perfectly - she would not give up the crown for her people because she's suffering from megalomania. Megalomaniacs hardly make good rulers, ever.
@omniversalnihilist Beacuse he’s a dude? Lol If that’s your reasoning, I can promise whatever else you have to say, I’m not interested in hearing. I’m Team Black for a reason.
Emilia Clarke played that last bit at the end very good without saying a thing. The slow build up of rage and hatred in her look and facial expressions, even the little twitches on her face. Dany has now lost everyone she loves and kept her impulses in check, except Jon. If Jon hadn't distance himself from her and kept the relationship going like it was, things may have been different. I think Jamie deep down really hates himself, for his life experiences and what he has done in the past. He probably believes he doesn't deserve true happiness like he would find in Brianne, he only deserves trash like Cersei. And also unfortunately he's addicted to that toxic relationship with her, like many people are in real life.
Which is such a weird thing Jon because they turned Jon into a joke after the long night he’s just there
"If Jon didn't stop doing what I wanted no matter how it affected him I would have suddenly trusted him & been OK sharing the power I have craved for decades but that was never going to fulfill me"
@@ACinemafanaticJon is the son of ice and fire who saved the world from ice AND fire. He stayed true to himself, true to protecting the people.
"Bran's broken". Weeeeel..
30:45 the way I stood up and screamed 'BURN THEM ALLLLL!!!!" My neighbors came to check on me. 🤣🤣 It was so fucking stupid that she didn't see an armada of ships that weren't hers.
32:55 the quick cut away edits are some the best parts of these reactions 😂
I have found that people who binge GoT don’t seem as affected by the final seasons as those of us who watched them as they aired. I think the having to wait made us much less forgiving with the stuff we were given
People who react to stuff on TH-cam for income cannot afford looking like a sourpuss. That's why they almost never dislike anything.
I never had a huge issue with season 8, and I'd watched it from season 1 episode 1. Its not my favourite season, maybe 6th or 7th out of all 8 and I think an extra episode would've been nice to pull the thread on some of the stories a little further. Season 5 on the other hand was a drag in my opinion, Dany's and Arya's stories were boring, Hardhome was a let down and the Drogon Ex Machina at the end of the season made me roll my eyes.
Let's be really, really real: most of the people who binge the entire series over a period of months don't absorb nearly as much of it as those of us who watched it season to season. TH-cam is full of reactors who are on, like, the sixth season and still can't remember basic stuff like Bran's name or that King's Landing is the capital. They miss half the dialogue by talking over it, so of course they have a shallower relationship with the show, and the serious flaws of the final seasons don't land the same way with them. I'm not trying to bag on anyone, it's just what I've seen.
That's because we didnt have the time to dive deep into the lore like you did.
We didn't talk with other people at work over the last episode and what is possible going around in the next one.
I binge GoT in less of two weeks. Everyday Nonstop, the first thing in the morning? GoT
The last thing in the night? GoT
For me, as a binge watcher, I loved the show, even Season 7&8 it doesn't feel wrong at all. Would rate it a 8 or 9 out of 10. The fight against the night King? A 10/10.
But, after I binge it I watched a bunch of lore Videos, Podcast and talket with people over it. I now understand why people hate it BUT the feeling I had while watching this show in less then 2 Weeks, day and night, can't be broken because of the shit writing.
Ygritte would say ,,Dirk you know nothing''
@@dirkwersonst723210/10??
I'm with you Cody for 8 seasons they built up the White Walkers as THE ultimate enemy and after many stare downs with Jon it's Arya who kills him in my opinion this should have been The last episode The battle Life vs Death
They took away Arya’s entire personality, so decided to make up for it with letting her kill him. Bad showrunners do bad showrunner things.
I agree with every point you made
It's not LotR, so i think subverting expectations in itself is a very good thing, makes it more interesting. But of course, you still have to do it in a satisfying way, and that wasn't really the case, yeah.
GRRW told D&D in the second season that Arya was going to kill the night king. And was also told who would endvup.on the chair
@@anneroberts5302 George RR Wartin?
“I can’t blame her! HOW can you BLAME her!?” FINALLY someone gets it!! In my opinion, King’s Landing’s fate started building up the moment she lost Viserion. She held her emotions together after all the people she lost and killing Missandei, who is not only her bestfriend, but was the first piece of Dany’s mission to free the people, was the last straw. It was crystal clear in her face. And the fact that some people believe she was wrong for what she did to King’s Landing after all she’s been through is just insanity.
She was literally being reasonable not cause any harm and go the peaceful route but this is Cersei we’re talking about and she plays dirty so that was the last straw. But this season is just garbage and people are trying to justify it is beyond me it sucked and there are countless plot holes plot armor and twist that are very predictable and cliche that it makes no sense and more questions are being asked. Even the cast were disappointed in the season Peter subtly shades it Emilia was nice about it but laughed kit flat out said it’s “disappointing “ like it bombed all because these two idiots wanted to do Star Wars
@@ACinemafanatic I feel you but honestly? Different folks, different strokes 🤷🏾♂️ lol. My ONLY problems with the last season is what transpired between Jon and Dany and Cersei not being brutally killed by Dany and Drogon.
My only issue was the small folk that she killed - they were innocent 100% she could’ve gone to the red keep after destroying the harpoon thingies. Leave the people alone. That was my issue, they didn’t betray her, the were corralled into the city.
@@monlovchel In my opinion, when the balls rang, Dany was so full of rage that she decided everything that reminded her of cersei had to go. Furthermore, Cersei sealed their fate BY coralling them into the city 🤷🏾♂️.
@@monlovchelyet these the same people that cheered for Ned’s head and even ate folks up when they were starving they’re really no better then the people who are in higher ranks to them. I don’t recall people caring about them when Cersei blew up the Sept and a few of the citizens were caught in the explosion
“My brothers a bird” lmao I laughed so hard when you said that
I understand that Jon wanted to tell Arya and Sansa about who he is but since he really didn't want to be king, he could've waited and told them after Dany claimed the iron throne. If he would've kept it a secret for just a few more days, we could've avoided the fallout.
Claiming the throne wouldn't have changed anything? The throne can change hands over and over. Its never reasonable to ask someone to lie just so you get your way. She didn't want to share. She didn't want the rightful heir Aegon she wanted the bastard who way 'less' than her.
"I'm no one. My brother's a bird." 😂
But remember, it was told long ago that Jamie and Cersi came into the world together -- and they would leave together. Very Shakespearian.
And all along the series, Jaime has repeatedly said Cersei was all he cared about. He never left her, he only went north to help save the world.
Dany was like oh so we gonna do this the hard way
Ok….here it goes.
I just wanna say how amazing it’s been watching this journey with you guys.
And it’s also amazing how fast you’ve gone thru it.
I have another channel I’m watching someone do this also they are a year in and only on season 5 ep 4…. I’ve about lost interest.
That's for me with some Buffy reactiors. I know they have other obligations but c'mon. Some of them got through S1-5 in a year and a half and now they are dragging it out so much it takes them half a year to go through 5 episodes.... So I really, really love and appreciate Bridgeco's upload speed.
You see, Dany forgot about Euron and the Iron Fleet...
I'm surprised Dan and Dave didn't
kinda.
F*** D&D forever for that comment
Are you a flat earther? They are not just out in open water they are coming from behind the cliffs in the straight. Just being up high doesn't mean you see everything especially out of your peripheral vision or that is lower than other land masses around.
When you said” my brothers a bird” I lost it
The Bronn thing is completely in character. From day one we've known Bronn is a mercenary. Remember when asked if he would kill babies when ordered to, without question? He replied no, NOT without question... his question would be "For how much?"
His own welfare, riches and status and such will always come first. That's who and what he has been this whole time. Yes, he is friendly with Tyrion and that's probably the only reason he talked to them first at all.
Cersei sending Bronn to do this is not. She would have sent him to turn her brothers to her side again. The writing is making her a cheap villain because that's all the stupid audience wants at this stage.
@@Leo_ofRedKeepbronn tbh shouldn’t have lasted this long but because the show runners like his character he lasted longer
@@Leo_ofRedKeep I disagree that she would have sent Bronn to turn them. She's always had hatred for Tyrion and has often thought about killing him, she just couldn't bring herself to actually be the one to do it. Then, Jamie turned his back on her and, as we know, she is a very scornful petty woman.
Still waiting for anyone to explain how Urine got so many spears into the dragon (choosing that one instead of the important one) without Dany seeing those ships from thousands of feet in the air. So unbelievably stupid.
Are you a flat earther? You realize that being high up doesn't change ships being behind cliffs or out of your peripheral vision.
“Without Ramsay and Jeoffrey and the rest I would’ve stayed a little bird all my life” ah yes, hear that young women? If you want to grow up to be strong and capable just let psychos abuse and assault you. Ugh the writing of these last two seasons is 😵💫
fun fact: at 11:44 there is a fixed vfx shot of tormund, during the live broadcast of this episode millions of people saw a starbucks coffee cup next to the mother of dragons
Here we go this going to be interesting
Everyone Dany has loved is dead other than Jon and hes being so cold towards her :(((( Fucking Sansa immediately telling Tyrion, Jon not saying goodbye to Ghost, Viseryion being shot out of the sky :((( This episode man...
Sansa trash for that she just wants power like in season 7 she was jealous of Jon being king of the north and was hoping he wouldn’t come back and was gonna kill Arya
Odio a Sansa
@@ACinemafanaticSansa is trash…end of sentence,lol. That’s all that needs to be said about that character.
She told him to LIE and she is his aunt. He is perfectly valid in not wanting to sleep with her or not want to lie.
Jon didn't say goodbye to Ghost because it was too painful. The look he gives him made that obvious to me. Goodbye would be too final. And perhaps Jon deep down knows either Dany will keep him in a guided cage to protect her false legitimacy or kill him and he'll have to act & be back to be with Ghost again one day (or at least that's good secret hope).
My heart can never reconcile Missandei being executed, hands bound in chains. 💔
Totally
During the first airing of this episode there was a Starbuck cup on the table near Dany during the feast. It was edited out right after.
bran is broken is the funniest thing ever to say
They’re both very prescient that way lol
Dude this episode made me so mad. The creaters said that “Dany forgot about Euron” so that’s why another dragon died. So stupid.
Like you can’t see a landscape from that high up on a dragon 😭😭
Expectation subverted
@@jaealxndrexactly! They just needed a reason to kill another off and they got so lazy
@@cookiekrum19 they even mention the Greyjoy fleet in the war room meeting w Greyworm lol
It's been almost 5 years and you losers are still waiting for someone to watch these episodes so you can come in the comments and make the same lame complaints
When this aired the first time they had coffee cups in at the table. 👀 which brought on some pretty comical moments on late night interviews with people throwing one another under the bus lol
Please don't apologize for the long intro I love hearing your guys in depth thoughts.
Also... Brienne is a Lady (though she doesn't like to be) it would be considered a bad thing by their standards for her to have "lost her virtue." Tyrion saying that she's a virgin like...duh!
It's inappropriate for him to comment on it like that, and he knows this.
I guess you know by now that Jon did save the world in the end…but not from the known one, but from an unexpected threat. He had a bigger purpose, but the threat wasn’t what we thought
Dany not recognizing the enemy fleet 400 feet beyond her gives me life.
Well you see, Danerys kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet. She and the dragons saw all those ships and just thought it was a flotilla of some kind. But the Iron Fleet hadn’t forgotten about her!
@@eld2310 Yeah everyone forgets stuff from time to time 😄
Are you a flat earther? They are not just out in open water they are coming from behind the cliffs in the straight. Just being up high doesn't mean you see everything especially out of your peripheral vision or that is lower than other land masses around.
Jon is a Stark though, he's a cousin not a brother ... but still half Stark.
this is the episode I was worried about for Bridgette. I remember watching it for the first time and falling to the floor screaming at my tv in anger.
Because you ignored all the foreshadowing & lore?
It’s so hard to watch these last three episodes 😭
It’s so bad lol
I literally could only rewatch this show through watching them see it for the first time; it's so effing painful
Mi limite esta en las campanadas
@@amyburt9193I remember shaking in the bells episode because it was so devastating people say I’m being overdramatic but Daenerys meant a lot to me out of every other character even Jon to see her liberate herself and stand up against her brother and right the wrongs of what her ancestors did was phenomenal and to see it crash in such a terrible way was heartbreaking all because the show runners didn’t like her character and make Jon the hero it was cliche and stupid that’s why when the finale aired they turned off their phones because they knew it was bad
@@ACinemafanatic I totally get it. I emotionally shut down watching it. Was just in disbelief thinking "no, this can't be the story, this is a dream, it'll stop, wait for it to stop". I got the same exact feeling watching their ep5 video this morning. It's just so utterly sad to see what D&D did to this show. The only thing that makes it tiniest bit better is that they lost Star Wars because of it.
All I can say about the next episode is that it is one of the most visually pleasing episodes ever
And it is inevitable
Honestly we have had so many people that don’t rightfully deserve the throne sit on it and the realm suffers for it. John being the RIGHTFUL ruler and not wanting it , is what we need
Bran doesn't want it & is rightful by vote not blood of a king few remembers. Jon gets freedom beyond the wall. I'd never want him to be forced to carry MORE than he already has.
Well put, Cody. Glad you are beginning to see and understand why the frustration sets in.
You saw that even when she tried doing things peacefully, Dany's army took a massive hit and she lost two children because of the decisions of the men around her.. which is bizarre because in season 1 to 6, Varys and Tyrion were the smartest, most cunning men in Westeros.
BURN IT ALL!
She lost her dragons and people around her due to her bad decisions. They went north to prove the Others existed for her & she repeatedly chose fire & blood throughout the entire series when no one stopped her. Tyrion is clever. That doesn't mean smart or magically a battle tactician or able to outsmart his sister who was actually listening to their dad all their lives when he wasn't.
2:51 I cried for Jorah's death as well. One of the only deaths I cried over.
Jon is the rightful heir by seniority.
Can we put Lady Mormont in the graveyard. I know she was never on the board, but I do feel like her OG ending deserves to be accounted for. lol
I'm going to miss you guys watching this, because HotD is HOT G
tyrions look of utter exasperation at the end.
the look of a man who knows millions are probably about to die....
Have you guys seen the image of Tormund without the beard and with long flowing red hair? Dude belongs on the cover of romance novels haha
Gorgeous
@@HoundsBane right! 😅 He's really attractive
i'm cry laughing thinking about jaime on his tippy toes
i dont know how you wait for the next episode - i held off for years watching then i binge watched the whole lot in 4 and a half days, that wasnt my plan for that week lol
Jon not petting Ghost the goodest boy is the biggest crime of this episode
It was too hard to say goodbye. Too final. Though I wonder if Jon deep down knew his heart was beyond the wall, free, and he knew he would find his way back because Dany only wanted the bastard & never would have accepted Aegon.
@25:46 What's even funnier than that previous Bronn scene is that no one asks about the "Hero of the Winterfell" will be for the "Last War." Maybe some PTO. 😆
Been waiting to see y’all opinions on a few “things” to say the least lol
Agree and hoping no holds barred from those opinions.
It’s so heartbreaking watching them clinging to hope that it ends well…..😢
Except it ends perfectly? The son of ice and fire saved the world from ice AND fire and now it's FREE beyond the wall!
Over last 7 seasons I saw no Stark wanting to be in KL, that INCLUDES Sansa.
Those ballistas probably have more range and accuracy than WW1 anti-aircraft guns. It's fantasy, yes, but it still makes no sense.
It makes less sense, that Dany and her dragons overlooked them and straight flew into range. And her fleet also fails to spot them - while they were waaay too close. Must have been some people with eye problems and a good portion of distraction at play here.
Robin Hood , i mean Eurion was 3 for 3 with Ballistas from at least 500' on a moving target and missed a much close target
coming straight at you with multiple ballistas come on !! 🤬🤬🤬
Well, how much sense does it make when good guys and bad guys enter a shootout and every single bad guy dies while the good guys emerge unscathed?
Such plot machinations are never a problem when they work in favor of the good guys, but when good guys are downed right when they are supposed to be on the final upswing to glorious victory, all of a sudden everyone is an expert in crossbow ballistics.
As for the whole accuracy discussion, not much needed to hit a slow moving target unaware of your presence. Dany was frolicking in the clouds completely not bothering to check what's on the ground, plus Rhaegal himself obscured Dany's view of the Iron Fleet.
@@SerbAtheist Sure, some things never make sense. But here it is a huge plot point, to kill Danys second dragon, destroy her fleet and capture (and later kill) Missandei. This should not have been done so cheap.
Like they had no other clue, how to make this happen with storytelling and just opted out for the cheapest and quickest way possible.
You could argue about some other cheap deaths, like for example that of Sir Barristan, which was cheap and unworthy for his character too. But there is was kind of acceptable.
And this scene is easily be fixable to make logical sense, without changing the outcome and all of this still in the same episode:
Let Euron attack their fleet. He might have an advantage with speed, due to wind, ship design etc. And he is a skilled sea warrior. Add ballista attacks, if you really want to, why not. Dany spots this on her dragon, wants to warn them, but fails. She then joins the battle, to help out against Euron. Now she is in ballista range of Eurons ships. Now they shoot down dragon no. 2. Dany stops supporting her fleet, fleet gets destroyed, Missandei gets captured.
Same thing, but now it makes sense. Surprising her in her position of advantage, high up in the sky, doesn't.
I love how Varys dislikes Daenerys but never gives her any advises what she should do 🤣
33:00.
Seeing them watch this while wearing stark cloaks rips my heart apart
I'm alost done watching your reactions to this show, and I lovee how often you guys reference HP
Yeah see back when these episodes came out, I felt like I was the only person that saw it coming. Everyone else was like "Durr, I didn't see Dany getting mad! That was so sudden!"
Yet you guys at least have been saying it for a while that she is being impulsive and rash and that you even said the would be justified in just burning all of King's Landing! (Its okay, no spoilers here as I know they already watched Episode 8x5)
Bridgeco Cooked Up Another Banger Of A Reaction 🔥💯☝🏾
the whole world was mad that jon didnt pet ghost. apparently it was expensive every time they touched the direwolves, but they really shoulda done it that time.
they also seem to have forgotten how big direwolves are supposed to be. He's hardly larger than a common wolf. Really disappointing.
@@Luthwen1301ghost was the runt of the litter, that’s why he was smaller
@@JakeMurphy_ that's a way one could explain it, but it just seems lazy imo. Just look how huge Grey Wind was in season 2/3 and then we have husky sized Ghost years and years later.
It was too hard to say goodbye. Too final. Though I wonder if Jon deep down knew his heart was beyond the wall, free, and he knew he would find his way back because Dany only wanted the bastard & never would have accepted Aegon.
Realistically, the army of the dead could only ever have been a distraction, a Side Quest, if you will. The show is not and was never about the Army of the Dead: it is called Game of Thrones. The story is about the struggle to attain the Iron Throne. ANYTHING else is secondary, or an obstacle to the final determination of who gets it.
True fan of the show. I never hated an episode. I enjoyed this til the end. I didn't agree with the ending But it made sense. Draw your own conclusion.
Couldn't agree more 😊
Writing quality went down in flames after S4. Idiots never noticed but most were unhappy their hero didn't win.
@@Leo_ofRedKeepthe writing was terrible which is why George left after season 4 because they already ruined so much. This show had the potential to end on such a fantastic way and they failed because they had no passion for it and wanted to do Star Wars
@@ACinemafanatic They intentionally dumbed down to reach the level of mass TV audience. The plan was 7 seasons all along, long before Star Wars came into the picture, then they added an 8th season and took two years for it. The "rushing to Star Wars" argument is a stupidity.
Because it was obvious and heavily foreshadowed in both the books and lore for this to be a possible ending.
I don't know if it's very difficult to know who would rule better.
Daenerys: she survived her brother's abuse; she was sold into marriage; she survived Drogo's daily rapes; she survived the fire and brought the dragons back to life; she led her people through the desert to safety; she dominated 3 powerful cities; freed enslaved people; gave up on her dreams to continue fighting for her children's freedom; she trapped the dragons so they wouldn't hurt anyone; she managed, through diplomacy, to rule a very powerful city.
And Jon: Snow
Jokes aside, Jon doesn't have what it takes (and doesn't even want) to rule a kingdom. He did well on the Watch, but that was it. He had a very good and privileged life, without knowing what the common people suffer. His place is in the North.
Daenerys managed to convince herself to fight for a certain cause, but her primary motivation has been to take the throne because it belongs to her.
She has been “I will burn your city to the ground if you don’t give in to me” literally since season 2. And she’s had to be convinced by others with increasing frequency that “hey maybe let’s not do mass murder,” by Jorah and Barristan and Tyrion.
I would argue Dany’s more of a conqueror than a ruler. Look what happened in Meereen. She made mistake after mistake which led to a battle and she ended up killing a shit ton of people so she could move on to the next location.
@@1080lights And what's the problem with that? Everyone in this series has killed a bunch of people for disobedience. Jon killed a lot of people to take Winterfell back from Ramsey and eliminate him once and for all so the Starks could stay safe. Tyrion killed a lot of people in the war, Robb killed a lot of people to be king. Everyone killed to get what they want and also killed when they were disobeyed. Why can't Daeneryz do the same?
@@sivannatalie She stayed in Meereen to prevent what happened to Astapor and Yunkai. So she conquered and then she ruled it very well. It wasn't perfect because she had enemies, but given time, she would get piece.
No. Jon was raised to be a steward. He knows how to lead, to make compromises, how to gain support and how to do it right. Yes, he had to make difficult decissions.
Dany forced her way though. She doesn't know how to compromise - which is an impossible trait for a ruler. Btw: she failed with all 3 cities.
The edits made this episode so much better 😂
Oh man I can’t wait til house of the dragon starts 😭
Ah, yes, this is when Dany and her team 'forgot' about all the threats they clearly knew about... Brilliant writing.
" While Dany kind of forgot about the Iron fleet" David Benioff 🤦♂
i was wondering why i saw hagrid in there whilst looking from where to where the actual reaction lasted... "should not have said that" lmao!
Jon in season 8: “I love you”
Also Jon: “this would conclude way too easily if I did love you so how about I kind of love you and we never really talk about it”
You mean "if I ignore you are my aunt & do whatever you want including lie"? NO.
You can put a horn cup down. My husband and I have one each from our wedding. They have holders that keep them upright.
when misundai says dracarus i get fuckin chills. thats the moment the war began
Missandei. An she said "Dracarys"
Never saw a worse spelling of missandei 😂
@@Yolandan06 only 3 letters off lol
"Bran is broken" 👀👀👀
This is the episode which made me hate Sansa even more and so does Arya, she says she doesn't want allies, first of all she wouldn't have been alive if not for some stranger helping her and she had been dragged by others helps all the way. Helped in escaping Kings landing, helped at way to Wall, helped at Harrehhal helped at Braavos helped at Winterfell in the Great war. And also she was meant to be no one
I’ve always hated show Sansa. Seemed like S 4 was the beginning of book Sansa but the writers blew it after that. I hope the Snow sequel kills her off.
@@shockwave1126I doubt we’re still getting a Snow spinoff because the north is not strong enough to carry a show tbh not even Jon snow can it’s pretty much pointless
Exactly and people wondered why Ned never told Cat about Jon’s true identity. Sansa wants power as well people fail to realize that she’s not innocent in this either and in the script for season 7 she’s jealous of Jon being the king of the north which is why she calls him out in public and was considering killing Arya if it wasn’t for bran revealing littlefingers intentions
@@ACinemafanatic One can only hope,,,
I pretend this season never happened and I'm waiting for the real ending. Martins written 1100 pages so far. Maybe he might finish before the Apocalypse
You think Bran is a chat bot? You should hear to Jon's remaining lines.
The actors wept at that final table read 😂 Varys actor looks directly into camera like *what is this?!*
OOOP ITS HERE
11:23 hahaha yeah it’s like chatbot hahah
For the throne question, why people hated the ending, they didn't hate the actual ending of the series, they hated the ending with Arya killing the night king, which I thought was fantastic
The funny thing is people said it all ended anticlimactically and I believe those people need a thesaurus.. Arya coming in like a freaking badass when all hope was lost to do the most brutal move when dropping the dagger and catching it in her other hand
Arya working her ass off and training with the sword for over 7 years and then trained hard for 2 years(yes, in the series it seemed like just a few weeks) to become a brutal faceless man and people said the night king got "randomly killed" by a little girl, I say nay, it was all but anticlimactic, it was a freakin nice end to the night king
Sansa was right, it is through hardships that we grow, "ad astra per aspera"
There's a lot of things in GOT that make you mad but there is something about that moment when jon didn't pat his direwolf goodbye that upset the fandom in a special way. I'm still furious a decade later.
It was too hard to say goodbye. Too final. Though I wonder if Jon deep down knew his heart was beyond the wall, free, and he knew he would find his way back because Dany only wanted the bastard & never would have accepted Aegon. It made him doing it in the final episode better.
I really hope you guys do the Westerosi Rhapsody after you wrap up the season! You'll love it!!
im such a got nerd and fan ive been following alone since the first reaction i cant wait to binge watch the reactions again
Watching the both of you guys reaction to when that dragon bit the bullet certainly reminded me of what I and the rest of the viewers felt when this episode aired for the first time; just complete and utter disbelief at what we were seeing. 👀
Are you a flat earther? They are not just out in open water they are coming from behind the cliffs in the straight. Just being up high doesn't mean you see everything especially out of your peripheral vision or that is lower than other land masses around.
Also, keep in mind that if jaime had killed Cersei, he would have also killed their unborn child.
Him accidentally leading them to their deaths was perfect.
This is what Podrick did to those women.. he sang to them 🫶🏻
Big songs