nel 9 Still curious where you got the satanism since the US is the most religious (with the most religiously identifying) population in the whole of the west?
Don't get why people make such a big deal over Cap not being a "founding Avenger" in the comics. Those early Avengers comics were experimental, they had no idea what roster was going to work.
They had no idea it was going to work , and I SWEAR they were created to spark interest in the individual titles, because in the late 70s early 80s Cap, Iron Man and THOR were bi-monthly titles .. they weren't popular AT ALL. MCU basically re-ignited them. And Cap ended up with the best movie trilogy.
He is called "The First Avenger" because while he wasn't a founding member it's his ideology and legacy that the Avengers were following in when they were created.
Cap DOES have superpowers. He has heightened cognitive functions to the point of perceiving bullets like they're much slower, and has a metabolism making him immune to all diseases alongside near-limitless stamina and slow aging. He's at peak human potential but he has a few gifts.
Yea that whole point in the video makes no sense whatsoever. It's clear in the movie that the title means "the first guy to do what the avengers do" and "Stark Enterprises" made Cap BEFORE Ironman. Cap was not a "founding member" in either the movie or comics! So? First doesn't mean founding you know whatculture lolol. Nice made vid though.
"The first avenger" is true though if you don't think so literally. He was the first of our main avengers to embody an avenger ,just without the title. That's how I always took the title.
@@SignoftheMagi namor acts more like an eco terrorist than a hero. He goes to the furthest extremes to accomplish his goals, like teaming up with dr doom of all people. Pretty much everything he does is to suit his own ambitions.
@Ricardo Santos But the Avengers weren't founded at that time. It doesn't matter how old he is, it matters when exactly he joined the ranks, and I don't think Thor was the first one.
Cap was 100% right in the Civil War comics. Iron Man was basically a super villain in the Civil War comic, he threw heroes into a prison without trial, created an unstable Thor clone as a weapon and even defended said clone killing Goliath.
He was, but so was Tony. Hero's privacy is something that should be assured, but they also need to be properly trained. Honestly without a person like Rogers, the registration act Could Not work. He's the only person everyone trusts, even villains. Everyone...knew he would never spill if sworn to secrecy.
Some of the things on this list are only down to the fact that we have nearly 75 years worth of comic books to read, with only a collective ~15 hours of Steve Rogers MCU screentime.
A few things that are wrong in this video. Cap’s round shield was made of Admantium and Vibranium hence its strength and resilience. Secondly, the super soldier serum did give Cap an increased strength well over what any human could develop.
Justin, I couldn't agree more. Taken in its entirety, the Civil War story arc is positively amazing. Filled with great character moments, and even some really funny bits. It was prime comic writing, hands down.
I’d argue the healing factor the serum gave him is way beyond what a man is capable of and def constitutes a super power. Humans can’t heal themselves the way he does in any capacity.
Super Soldier serum is essentially the greatest PED imaginable - one dose, no side-effects. Arnold, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Brock Lesnar all wrapped into one!
Cap has superpowers because some versions of him go above and beyond the human potential also he wielded mjilnor in some comics which gave him the powers of Thor which are super powers
I never read the comics, but I didn't take "the first Avenger" literally. I thought it was referring to Cap trying to do the same thing as the Avengers, just before they existed.
Point of fact. In the movies howard stark never said he made the shield They only said that was all they had. They never denied the (somewhat recent) retcon that the shield was a special allow made on accident via time travel shenangans and a secret recipe. Now the one in End Game wasn't the original and was vibranium. and was made by tony. by his own words. "I made it for you" not something like "my dad made it for you"
When they ”first avenger” they mean he was alive before the Avengers came to be. So unofficially, yes, he’s the first Avenger because he came before them, then joined later. If that makes sense. That’s how I’ve always seen it.
I think the first avenger title isn't refering to him being a founding member, it think it's refering to him being the first hero in the public eye that inspired the avengers initiative, so rather than him being a founder, it's about the fact that he came first
Actually people assume he's only human. And he does have superpowers as he's above peak human. He got sniped in the head and walked it off. He has powers
Yeah, there's no conventional way to reach PEAK HUMAN abilities. You can work out to get there all you want, you'll just exhaust yourself trying. There has to be some kind of [artificial] way to tap into it. That's why it's funny that they like to say Batman is peak human. Being a strong human, which is what Batman is, is nowhere close to being PEAK human, which is what Capt., Bucky, and Black Panther are.
There was a Black Captain before Rogers that's cannon. It's sad, but it makes sense: experimental serum, use people that are "expendable", aka, black soldiers
Technically inaccurate, as Isaiah Bradley was never called Captain America, and the project that created him was trying to recreate the Erskine Super Soldier Serum.
@@mark1eyeball That is, in fact, exactly where I got the information from. Steve Rogers became Captain America in 1939, before Pearl Harbor. Isaiah Bradley was part of a test group to re-create the SSF in 1942.
@@Pointbreak1028 I think in the Falcon and Winter Soldier we'll see Sam developing into CA. Then afterwards I hope we see Sam Wilson getting the solo movie of him being Captain America.
The shield actually wasn't a shield at all. The metal wasn't even vibranium. It was a vibranium/adamantium composite created by the scientist that made the super soldier serum. The metal was meant to be used to build tanks. The prototype he built was meant to be the cover for a hatch on a tank. But since this element and the super soldier serum were never committed to paper, the process for making it died with him and the hatch was made into a shield to replace Captain America's battered triangular shield.
@@anthonycurreri3792 probably it's not a bad thing just don't get to invest in the comics when you watch the movie because it may differ a bit from the comics in terms of characterization origin or Maybe reimagined
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 I learned a long time ago when I was a child to treat any movie, television show or cartoon as an Elseworlds or What If. As long as it's well written I don't care.
The shield in the comics was a type of proto-adamantium that had vibranium in it, while adamantium was the creator's attempt to recreate the metal. I think it was mention in the 80's that Cap had to train after getting the super-soldier serum because even though he had an enhanced body and mind, exercise was foreign to him.
Now maybe I'm overthinking.....now I'm a big fan of the captain america movies.....but I noticed that the avengers initiative was created from Captain Marvel's appearance (MCU VERSION) so technically Carol Danvers was the "first" avenger
I'm sure there's an alternate Earth reality out there where Cap was named Super American and in their WhatCulture video they're laughing at the possibility that their long established Super American character was almost given the ridiculous name of Captain America 😂
Cap's shield is an alloy of both Vibranium and Proto adamantium. Which was then reinforced with Uru after the Serpent destroyed it in Fear Itself. So it has both types of metal in it.
@@louisseymour9247 Vibranium destroys Adamantium, it's one of its few counter weapons, it cannot be alloyed with Adamantium. That might be a retcon for FI, but it's also stated IN secret wars that it's just proto Adamantium
@@ranwolf76 it's not stronger than Proto Adamantium. It took Thanos with the Infinty Gauntlet to break Proto Adamantium and destroy caps first shield, nothing less
WhatCulture Comics, you did a good job explaining the reasons people get wrong about Captain America, but there were several reasons that you explained weren't quite correct like Cap has superpowers and Stan Lee created Captain America. Rogers main superpowers is his enhanced conditioning which he gain his powers from Super-Soldier Serum. The two creators that made Captain America (Steve Rogers) is Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Sure, Stan Lee supported and acknowledged Cap during his early career, however, Stan Lee did not created Captain America.
It's a different type of first Avenger. He's the first one to be born and have the traits of an Avenger. That movie came out before the Avengers where even introduced in the MCU. I still liked the video though
11. Having the character actor appear in Lightyear then talk sh*t about parents "concerned" about taking their kids to see it. Calling them "Dinosaurs".
Of course, Captain America was intended to be the Aryan dream come to life: blonde, blue eyed, perfectly formed body. None of that really applies to Chris Evans, who didn't even lighten his hair. Steve Rogers' appearance in the comics wasn't an accident; he was created during World War II as a particular symbol. It may be wrong to mention this, especially in this supposedly "more enlightened" age, but, in many ways, it HAS to be; Cap MUST be everything that Adolph Hitler fantasized -- and never was -- of the Aryan race, but THIS Aryan was American. Captain America is the embodiment of Hitler's perfect race, and he was against everything Hitler stood for. This is especially emphasized after the Red Skull made his debut, and Cap's position became more important as he became identified as the American symbol to challenge the German symbol of the Red Skull. Casting Evans in the role removes this aspect, and the movies focus on Captain America more as the innocent farmboy -- so to speak -- called upon to serve his country, which is valid enough, but this Cap doesn't embody the symbol as much as he should. There are reasons Captain America is considered Marvel's equivalent to Superman, not in terms of power and abilities, but as a symbol of everything right. Corrupt that symbol, and he is nothing. The "Nazi Cap" storyline -- and to a lesser extent, the very existence of the so-called 50s Cap -- proved this. And here's the thing: If you read the What If story from its original run, "What If Captain America wasn't awakened until the present day" (that is, the late 1980s), it presents this dichotomy very well. In THIS world, the 50s Cap, a virulent racist and self-defined patriot, was awakened without the real Cap there to stop him, and, slowly but surely, he transforms America into a virtual fascist state that embodied his prejudices because everyone wants to believe in a hero, and that "hero" flanked the evil of what America turned into thanks to his unchallenged influence. When the real Cap beats the fake at the end of the issue, the 50s Cap can only cry out, "America NEEDS me!" "Needs you?" the real Cap replied. "Only as a reminder, madman." Never before was the symbol that IS Captain America so well pronounced. This is why I cannot like the Marvel movies, because Evans' Captain America ISN'T that symbol, even though the movies try to paint him that way. And this is why I cannot like any interpretation of Superman since Christopher Reeve. Because Reeve embodied that symbol in a way no one else can master, even when the movies betrayed that symbol in the end. Not even Kirk Alyn or George Reeves before him. And certainly not Evans as Captain America. The symbol is important, because it serves a purpose. And that isn't what the movies gave us. What happens to Cap in Endgame is only more evidence of that. Steve gets his happy ending, but the symbol he should have embodied is destroyed for good, no matter who takes over Cap's role in the MCU.
I Agree Plus it so Irritating when people say Captain America was a Founding member of the Avengers Clearly if you read the Very 1st issue of the Avengers when they Very 1st Assembled Captain America was nowhere to be seen at that time he was still under the ice because those 70 years were still passing by it wasn't until years later in the 21st Century that the Avengers found him in the ice and Thawed him out and once Captain America got somewhat familiar to the time he was in he Eventually Joined the Avengers but at that time Iron Man was still Leading The Avengers way before Captain America so for those of you who gets things wrong look at this Video it will help you clean up your thoughts that you thought were right about Captain America
@matthew helm I won't doubt you on that because this is Marvel bit I'm just going by what I know there are different Timelines of How Captain America joined the Avengers
ranwolf76 all are physically based as well. Whereas 616 can bench press 1100 pounds with ease, Ultimate Cap KO’d Giant Man with a kick and run 8 blocks within couple of seconds.
Being a patriot does not mean you must like the state, the country is not the state, a country is it's people and that is what Cap want to protect at all cost.
@WhatCulture Comics here is what you get wrong in this entire video. The MCU is it's own comic book universe separate from any other comic book stories ever told by Marvel. So for instance in the MCU comic universe Captain America does get his shield from Howard Stark. This is not "wrong" this is exactly how it happens in this universe. The fact that Endgame basically introduced the idea of the multiverse further proves this since very "universe" has it's own timeline and own unique outcomes. It's nice you read the comics but while the comics were inspiration for this new direction they have zero influence on the back stories in this universe. Also, "First Avenger" doesn't refer to founding member (though he is one in the MCU universe so again wrong) but rather in some sense he was the first Avenger in that he was the first one created so to speak for the purposes that became the Avengers. I mean Stark begat SHIELD which begat Fury which begat the Avengers and come full circle Stark created Captain American from the super soldier serum for the purposes of defending mankind so basically Captain America really was the first Avenger, at the very least in the MCU. So your entire video is wrong.
I always thought the movie was titled "first avenger" not because he founded the team, but because he's literally the first avenger, he's the oldest and original hero that shield had, so no he didn't create the team or was a founder. It's simply that he was the first hero chronologically.
Cap was the heroic inspiration for many of the early Avengers, after he was thawed he was made an honorary founding member, so you could say he was Avenger #0.
@matthew helm Marvel Universe Role-playing Game Guide to Hulk & the Avengers from the early to mid 2000's that is 616 Canon at start of play (and stops there since after that it's your Game) states that not long after he joined the Avengers he was made an honorary founding member by a Vote of the founding Avengers, because 1. He is that Awesome, and 2. he inspired many of them when they heard stories of him from back in the War.
When it was said that Cap was the first Avenger I didn't take it as him being the founder of the Avengers or one of the original Avengers I took it as the one who inflicted punishment against the Nazis back in WW2
Don't forget the Civil War comics references that Canada tried and failed to do something similar. Also in the comics Wakanda was Neutral. So was the nation Cable took over, offering asylum to mutants caught in the conflict.
5:32 That's what makes him so American, and such a patriot. Even if America itself falls to tyranny, the founding fathers made it so the people wouldn't have to take the fall without a fight. The very first principle that every true American should follow, is that we shall never submit to tyrants
was he really not the first avenger? i always thought that steve rodgers was meant to be the first of the kind of the group that would become the future avengers, but when they lost the serum, an cap got put in ice, they put the whole operation on hold?
3 things people get wrong and 7 things we all know. Also, that "peak human potential" is bullshit. A peak human could run twice as fast as Usain Bolt, lift twice what Halfthor Bjornson could, and have proportional durability of a cockroach isn't evidence of super powers? Lol okay.
Yeah, Steve was peak human in 40s, but since then he was actually updated to superhuman levels. They keep calling it peak human because he is many times weaker than other superheroes, though. But hey, at least he s not Batman.
You are comparing the comic rendition to the MCU rendition. They are 2 completely different Universes, therefore, nothing between the 2 renditions will ever be linked. They were never meant to be linked. That's like Comparing "The Amazing Spiderman" to MCU "Spiderman: Homecoming".
he is one of my favorite leaders for the team. Him along with Thor and the Hulk make it all work. You take them away the books become boring and unreadable.
Matthew Nerbel he isn’t. He’s fast but batman is at peak human human condition and I can tell u that cap isn’t 3 times faster than him or twice as strong, yes he is faster and stronger but not that much
Barnie Woodward actually he is, read a comic and you’ll see he runs faster than cars and is extremely strong, superhumanly strong. The guy kicks cars and they spin around.
@@barniewoodward8888 haha cap is way stronger than batman. Its not even close batman couldn't pull a helicopter out of the sky with his bare hands cap has done it in comics and movies..
So two things.. Cap mastered every martial Art know to man. Plus every weapon known to man every military history and tactic of humanity. He does know some Alien martial arts as well. I mean dude this guy casuals spars with Shang Chi. As well as that Peak Human thing… yeah no. He is human as only what his being is. He is in a whole other type. Super human easily.
The “Truth” implied that he was the first one. However, when authors were asked to bring the character to 616 ( main storyline) , they had to retcon the story. So Isaiah joins the project in 1942( like it was in “The Truth”) however this time they are using Afro-Americans to recreate the formula, since Captain America was active as early as 1940. Thus makes Isaiah non officially second Captain America ( he never picked up the name, opting to Patriot instead) and 3rd American Super Soldier.
Yeah it's more accurate to say he started without super powers, basically being peak physical condition human, they gave him super strength in the early 70s
The title just needs to be altered. It's not 10 Things Everyone Always Gets Wrong Abotu Captain America. It's 10 Things About Captain America In The MCU That Are Different In THe Comics.
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5 - Captain America doesn't represent the American government. He represents the best of American ideals.
What , taking land & satanic worship....ye ! U.S.A
nel 9 ?
nel 9 Still curious where you got the satanism since the US is the most religious (with the most religiously identifying) population in the whole of the west?
@@johnfriedgen357 satanism is a religion
@@L0rd0fTh3N3rdz No shit sherlock. But I don't see Satanic temples do you?
Don't get why people make such a big deal over Cap not being a "founding Avenger" in the comics. Those early Avengers comics were experimental, they had no idea what roster was going to work.
They had no idea it was going to work , and I SWEAR they were created to spark interest in the individual titles, because in the late 70s early 80s Cap, Iron Man and THOR were bi-monthly titles .. they weren't popular AT ALL. MCU basically re-ignited them. And Cap ended up with the best movie trilogy.
He is called "The First Avenger" because while he wasn't a founding member it's his ideology and legacy that the Avengers were following in when they were created.
And damn sure wasn't captain Marvel .. laughed my a** off at that "Avenger" thing in Caps Marvel. WTF???
Cap DOES have superpowers. He has heightened cognitive functions to the point of perceiving bullets like they're much slower, and has a metabolism making him immune to all diseases alongside near-limitless stamina and slow aging. He's at peak human potential but he has a few gifts.
*"10 Things Everyone (who hasn't read the comics) Gets Wrong About Captain America"* 😜
Damn beat me to it
@@MultiVinniemac same
Why does this not have more likes?
I've never read a comic and still knew these
Tell that to yellow flash 2 and his fans who are complaining about the possibility of the new cap not being Steve Rogers.
I know that we all enjoy being pedantic sometimes, but I really doubt that "The First Avenger," thing was mean to be taken literally. Like, c'mon.
Yea that whole point in the video makes no sense whatsoever. It's clear in the movie that the title means "the first guy to do what the avengers do" and "Stark Enterprises" made Cap BEFORE Ironman. Cap was not a "founding member" in either the movie or comics! So? First doesn't mean founding you know whatculture lolol. Nice made vid though.
3:38 they actually do show his artist skills in the movie but it's a blink and you miss it moment
When did they show that?
Cambot they show it in the vid at 3:33 so it’s somewhere in the movie
There’s a deleted part of the first avengers movie where caps at a cafe drawing buildings and its shows how good he is at drawing
Actually, #1 is technically wrong it was retconned that Steve was thought of when the Avengers were formed so in a sense he is the first Avenger
In the first avenger they showed cap drawing in his journal so they kind of did cover the fact that he's an artist
"The first avenger" is true though if you don't think so literally. He was the first of our main avengers to embody an avenger ,just without the title. That's how I always took the title.
Technically if you want to go by the idea of a hero that avenges wrongs, he's still beat by Namor.
@@SignoftheMagi namor acts more like an eco terrorist than a hero. He goes to the furthest extremes to accomplish his goals, like teaming up with dr doom of all people. Pretty much everything he does is to suit his own ambitions.
Thor is thousands of years old
@Ricardo Santos But the Avengers weren't founded at that time. It doesn't matter how old he is, it matters when exactly he joined the ranks, and I don't think Thor was the first one.
I thought Thor was in the original line up.
It all comes down to the fact that the MCU isn't necessarily the Marvel COMICS Universe. They're similar, but not identical.
And the comics half several different continuities of their own.
Cap was 100% right in the Civil War comics. Iron Man was basically a super villain in the Civil War comic, he threw heroes into a prison without trial, created an unstable Thor clone as a weapon and even defended said clone killing Goliath.
He was, but so was Tony. Hero's privacy is something that should be assured, but they also need to be properly trained. Honestly without a person like Rogers, the registration act Could Not work. He's the only person everyone trusts, even villains. Everyone...knew he would never spill if sworn to secrecy.
Some of the things on this list are only down to the fact that we have nearly 75 years worth of comic books to read, with only a collective ~15 hours of Steve Rogers MCU screentime.
A few things that are wrong in this video. Cap’s round shield was made of Admantium and Vibranium hence its strength and resilience. Secondly, the super soldier serum did give Cap an increased strength well over what any human could develop.
Civil war comic is light years better than the movie, nonetheless, the movie is also one of my favorites from the MCU
The comics are a mess and filled with illogical decisions. The conflict in the movie is a lot more believable.
Justin, I couldn't agree more. Taken in its entirety, the Civil War story arc is positively amazing. Filled with great character moments, and even some really funny bits. It was prime comic writing, hands down.
@Warrior Born One of us is living in the real world.
I’d argue the healing factor the serum gave him is way beyond what a man is capable of and def constitutes a super power. Humans can’t heal themselves the way he does in any capacity.
Totally agree
His buns of steel is stronger than his shield
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America's butt
Super Soldier serum is essentially the greatest PED imaginable - one dose, no side-effects. Arnold, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Brock Lesnar all wrapped into one!
Plus Usain Bolt
Cap has superpowers because some versions of him go above and beyond the human potential also he wielded mjilnor in some comics which gave him the powers of Thor which are super powers
Mike Lee for sure in some.comics.he's as strong as six men I read once I'm.sure and it says wolverines strong to and in some.trump.card sets lol
Okay. So I love the Civil War Movie, but the comic's story is UNRIVALED.
I agree with one of those statements
I never read the comics, but I didn't take "the first Avenger" literally. I thought it was referring to Cap trying to do the same thing as the Avengers, just before they existed.
That is exactly what it was meant to be.
When people say captain America is just “peak potential" I role my eyes. Do you know of anyone who can run 60 mph?😂😂
Point of fact.
In the movies howard stark never said he made the shield They only said that was all they had.
They never denied the (somewhat recent) retcon that the shield was a special allow made on accident via time travel shenangans and a secret recipe.
Now the one in End Game wasn't the original and was vibranium. and was made by tony.
by his own words. "I made it for you"
not something like "my dad made it for you"
When they ”first avenger” they mean he was alive before the Avengers came to be. So unofficially, yes, he’s the first Avenger because he came before them, then joined later. If that makes sense. That’s how I’ve always seen it.
That's exactly why they called it that
What about Thor... he's like 1500 years old
@@ado9249 great point... Thor: The first avenger
11. They're friends
Actually, they're not
I think the first avenger title isn't refering to him being a founding member, it think it's refering to him being the first hero in the public eye that inspired the avengers initiative, so rather than him being a founder, it's about the fact that he came first
Super American should like some 80s pro wrestler.
My favorite superhero is Captain America.
Mine as well even though in my pic I'm iron Man and my son is Spidey but I love cap
Actually people assume he's only human. And he does have superpowers as he's above peak human. He got sniped in the head and walked it off. He has powers
It depends on what comic you go if if he’s peak human or super strength
#3? Um, seeing that no one is able to actually do that through natural means I think that qualifies as super powers.
Yeah, there's no conventional way to reach PEAK HUMAN abilities. You can work out to get there all you want, you'll just exhaust yourself trying. There has to be some kind of [artificial] way to tap into it.
That's why it's funny that they like to say Batman is peak human. Being a strong human, which is what Batman is, is nowhere close to being PEAK human, which is what Capt., Bucky, and Black Panther are.
There was a Black Captain before Rogers that's cannon. It's sad, but it makes sense: experimental serum, use people that are "expendable", aka, black soldiers
Technically inaccurate, as Isaiah Bradley was never called Captain America, and the project that created him was trying to recreate the Erskine Super Soldier Serum.
@@teabearchurchill5600 someone always has to bring the black man down 🙁
@@richardharper4637 Facts man. Facts.
An argument built on misinformation helps nobody.
@@teabearchurchill5600 Truth. Red. White. And Black
@@mark1eyeball That is, in fact, exactly where I got the information from.
Steve Rogers became Captain America in 1939, before Pearl Harbor. Isaiah Bradley was part of a test group to re-create the SSF in 1942.
Cap out here benching 2,200 lbs...damn take it easy bro!
Looking forward to seeing Sam Wilson as Captain America in the MCU.
The Hellfire Club! Me too. Probably in the new MCU show, Falcon might become the new Captain America
@@Pointbreak1028 I think in the Falcon and Winter Soldier we'll see Sam developing into CA. Then afterwards I hope we see Sam Wilson getting the solo movie of him being Captain America.
The Hellfire Club! I want to see old Steve Rogers in the show.
@@Pointbreak1028 Me too but Chris Evans is done with the MCU. Sam and Bucky will take over from him and I'm hyped for the series.
The Hellfire Club! Same dude and he has a show with Bucky which is bromance goals
The shield actually wasn't a shield at all. The metal wasn't even vibranium. It was a vibranium/adamantium composite created by the scientist that made the super soldier serum. The metal was meant to be used to build tanks. The prototype he built was meant to be the cover for a hatch on a tank. But since this element and the super soldier serum were never committed to paper, the process for making it died with him and the hatch was made into a shield to replace Captain America's battered triangular shield.
Really I did not know this information
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 yeah clearly I read way too many comics.
@@anthonycurreri3792 probably it's not a bad thing just don't get to invest in the comics when you watch the movie because it may differ a bit from the comics in terms of characterization origin or Maybe reimagined
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 I learned a long time ago when I was a child to treat any movie, television show or cartoon as an Elseworlds or What If. As long as it's well written I don't care.
@@anthonycurreri3792 I wish everyone else was like you you know your stuff that's how I see it too
The shield in the comics was a type of proto-adamantium that had vibranium in it, while adamantium was the creator's attempt to recreate the metal.
I think it was mention in the 80's that Cap had to train after getting the super-soldier serum because even though he had an enhanced body and mind, exercise was foreign to him.
Dont forget the punisher who rocked a punisher version of Cap's suit when he took on hate monger
Wow. Sounds awesome. I'll have to look that up.
Should've mentioned Captain Americas fanboy Frank Castle who took it up :p
You could have finished this entire video is 10 seconds by saying “The MCU doesn’t directly follow the comic books.”
Now maybe I'm overthinking.....now I'm a big fan of the captain america movies.....but I noticed that the avengers initiative was created from Captain Marvel's appearance (MCU VERSION) so technically Carol Danvers was the "first" avenger
Narrator: “His name was super american”
*me still waiting to hear the name*:
I'm sure there's an alternate Earth reality out there where Cap was named Super American and in their WhatCulture video they're laughing at the possibility that their long established Super American character was almost given the ridiculous name of Captain America 😂
The video also got another thing wrong about 616 Caps shield: it isn't Vibranium, it's Proto Adamantium, the strongest form of Adamantium
Cap's shield is an alloy of both Vibranium and Proto adamantium. Which was then reinforced with Uru after the Serpent destroyed it in Fear Itself. So it has both types of metal in it.
@@louisseymour9247 Vibranium destroys Adamantium, it's one of its few counter weapons, it cannot be alloyed with Adamantium.
That might be a retcon for FI, but it's also stated IN secret wars that it's just proto Adamantium
Adamantine is stronger. Adamantium was named after it. There's a alt-Wolverine that has it instead of Adamantium.
@@ranwolf76 it's not stronger than Proto Adamantium. It took Thanos with the Infinty Gauntlet to break Proto Adamantium and destroy caps first shield, nothing less
@@ssjjshawn and how does Thanos breaking Proto-Adamantium prove Adamantine isn't stronger?
More like "10 things the comics did slightly different to the movies
WhatCulture Comics, you did a good job explaining the reasons people get wrong about Captain America, but there were several reasons that you explained weren't quite correct like Cap has superpowers and Stan Lee created Captain America. Rogers main superpowers is his enhanced conditioning which he gain his powers from Super-Soldier Serum. The two creators that made Captain America (Steve Rogers) is Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Sure, Stan Lee supported and acknowledged Cap during his early career, however, Stan Lee did not created Captain America.
Watch it again, he explained that Cap was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. How could you miss it?
Jamal Washington, my mistake. Thank you for letting me know. 😀
“Ooh he’s boring.” Pisses me off
It's a different type of first Avenger. He's the first one to be born and have the traits of an Avenger. That movie came out before the Avengers where even introduced in the MCU. I still liked the video though
11. Having the character actor appear in Lightyear then talk sh*t about parents "concerned" about taking their kids to see it. Calling them "Dinosaurs".
Franklin Dolano Roosevelt. It Dela-no.
You shouldn't expect a British teenager who hates the states to be able to pronounce the name of a US President.
Of course, Captain America was intended to be the Aryan dream come to life: blonde, blue eyed, perfectly formed body. None of that really applies to Chris Evans, who didn't even lighten his hair. Steve Rogers' appearance in the comics wasn't an accident; he was created during World War II as a particular symbol. It may be wrong to mention this, especially in this supposedly "more enlightened" age, but, in many ways, it HAS to be; Cap MUST be everything that Adolph Hitler fantasized -- and never was -- of the Aryan race, but THIS Aryan was American. Captain America is the embodiment of Hitler's perfect race, and he was against everything Hitler stood for. This is especially emphasized after the Red Skull made his debut, and Cap's position became more important as he became identified as the American symbol to challenge the German symbol of the Red Skull.
Casting Evans in the role removes this aspect, and the movies focus on Captain America more as the innocent farmboy -- so to speak -- called upon to serve his country, which is valid enough, but this Cap doesn't embody the symbol as much as he should. There are reasons Captain America is considered Marvel's equivalent to Superman, not in terms of power and abilities, but as a symbol of everything right. Corrupt that symbol, and he is nothing. The "Nazi Cap" storyline -- and to a lesser extent, the very existence of the so-called 50s Cap -- proved this.
And here's the thing: If you read the What If story from its original run, "What If Captain America wasn't awakened until the present day" (that is, the late 1980s), it presents this dichotomy very well. In THIS world, the 50s Cap, a virulent racist and self-defined patriot, was awakened without the real Cap there to stop him, and, slowly but surely, he transforms America into a virtual fascist state that embodied his prejudices because everyone wants to believe in a hero, and that "hero" flanked the evil of what America turned into thanks to his unchallenged influence. When the real Cap beats the fake at the end of the issue, the 50s Cap can only cry out, "America NEEDS me!" "Needs you?" the real Cap replied. "Only as a reminder, madman." Never before was the symbol that IS Captain America so well pronounced.
This is why I cannot like the Marvel movies, because Evans' Captain America ISN'T that symbol, even though the movies try to paint him that way. And this is why I cannot like any interpretation of Superman since Christopher Reeve. Because Reeve embodied that symbol in a way no one else can master, even when the movies betrayed that symbol in the end. Not even Kirk Alyn or George Reeves before him. And certainly not Evans as Captain America. The symbol is important, because it serves a purpose. And that isn't what the movies gave us. What happens to Cap in Endgame is only more evidence of that. Steve gets his happy ending, but the symbol he should have embodied is destroyed for good, no matter who takes over Cap's role in the MCU.
One of the few heroes that started lame to a badass and well-respected character.
I Agree Plus it so Irritating when people say Captain America was a Founding member of the Avengers Clearly if you read the Very 1st issue of the Avengers when they Very 1st Assembled Captain America was nowhere to be seen at that time he was still under the ice because those 70 years were still passing by it wasn't until years later in the 21st Century that the Avengers found him in the ice and Thawed him out and once Captain America got somewhat familiar to the time he was in he Eventually Joined the Avengers but at that time Iron Man was still Leading The Avengers way before Captain America so for those of you who gets things wrong look at this Video it will help you clean up your thoughts that you thought were right about Captain America
@matthew helm I won't doubt you on that because this is Marvel bit I'm just going by what I know there are different Timelines of How Captain America joined the Avengers
In the ultimate comics, Cap has super powers
such as? I don't remember 1610-Cap doing anything all that different from 616-Cap
ranwolf76 all are physically based as well. Whereas 616 can bench press 1100 pounds with ease, Ultimate Cap KO’d Giant Man with a kick and run 8 blocks within couple of seconds.
I believe his shield was originally made from an adamantium and vibranium alloy.
No, it's not. Adamantium was created in trying to re-create the material of Cap's shield.
Being a patriot does not mean you must like the state, the country is not the state, a country is it's people and that is what Cap want to protect at all cost.
Captain America was not the first member of the team "the avengers"but he was definitely doing some avenging way before the rest of that team
do you expect 20 scenes of cap working out or doing art?
this version of cap makes better movie experience
@WhatCulture Comics here is what you get wrong in this entire video. The MCU is it's own comic book universe separate from any other comic book stories ever told by Marvel. So for instance in the MCU comic universe Captain America does get his shield from Howard Stark. This is not "wrong" this is exactly how it happens in this universe. The fact that Endgame basically introduced the idea of the multiverse further proves this since very "universe" has it's own timeline and own unique outcomes. It's nice you read the comics but while the comics were inspiration for this new direction they have zero influence on the back stories in this universe. Also, "First Avenger" doesn't refer to founding member (though he is one in the MCU universe so again wrong) but rather in some sense he was the first Avenger in that he was the first one created so to speak for the purposes that became the Avengers. I mean Stark begat SHIELD which begat Fury which begat the Avengers and come full circle Stark created Captain American from the super soldier serum for the purposes of defending mankind so basically Captain America really was the first Avenger, at the very least in the MCU. So your entire video is wrong.
I always thought the movie was titled "first avenger" not because he founded the team, but because he's literally the first avenger, he's the oldest and original hero that shield had, so no he didn't create the team or was a founder. It's simply that he was the first hero chronologically.
The oldest by age would be Thor. Who is much, much older than Steve in the comics. He's believed to be 1,000 years old.
Crying need for a superhero with super hearing, if only there was...wait a second....
Cap was the heroic inspiration for many of the early Avengers, after he was thawed he was made an honorary founding member, so you could say he was Avenger #0.
@matthew helm Marvel Universe Role-playing Game Guide to Hulk & the Avengers from the early to mid 2000's that is 616 Canon at start of play (and stops there since after that it's your Game) states that not long after he joined the Avengers he was made an honorary founding member by a Vote of the founding Avengers, because 1. He is that Awesome, and 2. he inspired many of them when they heard stories of him from back in the War.
Cap was the first Average recruit in the comics. He came in after the Hulk left the team.
Holy crap did you butcher the pronunciation of "Franklin Delano Roosevelt"
When it was said that Cap was the first Avenger I didn't take it as him being the founder of the Avengers or one of the original Avengers I took it as the one who inflicted punishment against the Nazis back in WW2
Captain America doesn't have shares in Haliburton and isn't a war monger . Honourable mention
Don't forget the Civil War comics references that Canada tried and failed to do something similar. Also in the comics Wakanda was Neutral. So was the nation Cable took over, offering asylum to mutants caught in the conflict.
Genosha.
He was the first publication wise but they retconed that there actually was a Captain America chronologically before Steve. Isaiah Bradley.
Bradley was after Rogers. The point of the program he was part of was to re-create Erskine's formula
5:32 That's what makes him so American, and such a patriot. Even if America itself falls to tyranny, the founding fathers made it so the people wouldn't have to take the fall without a fight. The very first principle that every true American should follow, is that we shall never submit to tyrants
6. You forgot Punisher was once Captain America.
He is better in the mcu in my opinion. Also, he needs a beard in the comics lol.
he's had a beard on a number of occasions
this is just things that differ between the books and the movies.... nothing is necessarily 'wrong'
"He's faster... stronger..." AND HIGHER, BABY! :D
was he really not the first avenger? i always thought that steve rodgers was meant to be the first of the kind of the group that would become the future avengers, but when they lost the serum, an cap got put in ice, they put the whole operation on hold?
John Walker was initially known as “the U.S. Agent”
what about the fact that the shield is not made purely of vibranium, but an alloy of Steel. and it gave birth to adamantium
one thing i want to know about captain america is if he is willing to kill his enemies in the comics
He was the first made superhero of the avengers; that’s probably why they call him the first avenger
3 things people get wrong and 7 things we all know.
Also, that "peak human potential" is bullshit. A peak human could run twice as fast as Usain Bolt, lift twice what Halfthor Bjornson could, and have proportional durability of a cockroach isn't evidence of super powers? Lol okay.
Yeah, Steve was peak human in 40s, but since then he was actually updated to superhuman levels. They keep calling it peak human because he is many times weaker than other superheroes, though.
But hey, at least he s not Batman.
this proves that Batman could kill captain america
HOLD UP WHEN DID CYCLOPS ASSUMED THE CAPTAIN AMERICA MANTLE? I NEED TO SEE THAT SHIT
Cap merica in the mcu deff has super powers. The movies have powered him up so much whoch is ironic since everyone else was nerfed
The video title should be: I'M A NERD WHO TAKES EVERYTHING SERIOUSLY IF IT HAPPENS IN THE COMICS.
You are comparing the comic rendition to the MCU rendition. They are 2 completely different Universes, therefore, nothing between the 2 renditions will ever be linked. They were never meant to be linked. That's like Comparing "The Amazing Spiderman" to MCU "Spiderman: Homecoming".
he is one of my favorite leaders for the team. Him along with Thor and the Hulk make it all work. You take them away the books become boring and unreadable.
Actually cap is 2 times stronger than a human at peak condition and 3 times faster
I would agree with this.
Matthew Nerbel he isn’t. He’s fast but batman is at peak human human condition and I can tell u that cap isn’t 3 times faster than him or twice as strong, yes he is faster and stronger but not that much
Barnie Woodward actually he is, read a comic and you’ll see he runs faster than cars and is extremely strong, superhumanly strong. The guy kicks cars and they spin around.
@@barniewoodward8888 haha cap is way stronger than batman. Its not even close batman couldn't pull a helicopter out of the sky with his bare hands cap has done it in comics and movies..
SmashKing17 oh trust me batman could beat cap i mean he’s beaten the entire justice league at once who are far stronger than the avengers
So basically anyone who doesn't read the comics and knows about Stan Lee gets wrong about Captain America
Patriotism is loyalty to your country not your government
So two things.. Cap mastered every martial Art know to man. Plus every weapon known to man every military history and tactic of humanity. He does know some Alien martial arts as well. I mean dude this guy casuals spars with Shang Chi. As well as that Peak Human thing… yeah no. He is human as only what his being is. He is in a whole other type. Super human easily.
"First Avenger" doesn't necessarily mean he's the first member of the Avengers... it's basically saying that he's that Universe's first superhero
Then that would make Thor the first Avenger since, he's thousands of years older than Cap.
I thought Isiah Bradley was the original "Captain America". Where in the line did he fall?
The “Truth” implied that he was the first one. However, when authors were asked to bring the character to 616 ( main storyline) , they had to retcon the story. So Isaiah joins the project in 1942( like it was in “The Truth”) however this time they are using Afro-Americans to recreate the formula, since Captain America was active as early as 1940.
Thus makes Isaiah non officially second Captain America ( he never picked up the name, opting to Patriot instead) and 3rd American Super Soldier.
What is that art from at 4:48
Everyone always gets these wrong do they? Everyone? Every time?
If the government in Marvel wants to create more super soldiers they can always go to DC and barrow some Mericuru, I'm sure Oliver won't mind.
cap has super powers....stop playing
Yeah it's more accurate to say he started without super powers, basically being peak physical condition human, they gave him super strength in the early 70s
I thought Black Panther T’Chaka gave Captain America his Shield ??
The title just needs to be altered. It's not 10 Things Everyone Always Gets Wrong Abotu Captain America. It's 10 Things About Captain America In The MCU That Are Different In THe Comics.
Super Hero Squad is the only one who got him right
Top 10 things everyone gets wrong about Captain America
#10 Howard Stark
#9 he is a captain
Stan "The Brand" Lee....
Cap's shield is a blend of vibranium and adamantium