PM Lee Hsien Loong, Pritam Singh's exchange on 'free rider' voters
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- Singapore PM Lee Hsien Loong and Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh had an exchange in Parliament on Wednesday (Sep 2) on appeals to vote for the opposition. "If you say: 'Vote against the Government because somebody else will look after getting the PAP Government and you just become a free rider and you vote opposition - no harm, the PAP will still be there' - then I think the system must fail, because the system can only work if people vote sincerely," said Mr Lee.
"I don't think residents in Aljunied, Hougang for 30 years and even Sengkang as a result of the last election would appreciate being called 'free riders'," said Mr Singh. Read: cna.asia/3lGMIr8
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Pritam has really grown into his role.. We watched him mature into an exceptional leader and orator over the last 10years.. he speaks with the eloquence and gravitas of, dare I say, a future PM..
I agree!
No he is incompetent
Definitely more suitable than one who stumble when giving a public speech, one who thinks cotton comes from sheep, and one who has a fetish for travel bubbles.
I St Brother bg brother boss Mr Tang totally agree if he can do a better job so let him be the next pm of singapore but he must prove to our people n others country he s worth for the jobs St Brother joachimtang bgbrother boss Mr Tang
Free rider is nepotism from father to son being PM without any merit.
Free rider is like someone who join NS and straight away be Brigadier General.
Since a child his life is different than the rest. Always the son of the pm
Free rider is people like you who don’t want to work hard and expect government payouts.
Xcavor Green maybe he’s richer than you? It’s the internet u never know. And he has a radical view which does have element of truth within I.e. white horse in army. Not supporting pap in everything while giving credit when it is due is critical thinking and not assuming everyone that speaks up against certain policies are lazy ppl.
King Seiryu exactly my point. I know my comment doesn’t make any sense because I’m make assumptions. Likewise he is making assumptions.
charltonsz "without any merit"? Do you have any idea about how much he achieved and for Singapore? Do look it up. Also, the "free-rider" term was referring to the voting. You have taken it out of context.
You are just a great Singaporean. My salutation to you.We need more people like you to check on the government.🙏🙏🙏
Cannot fully understand why the PM is always so insecure and must treat the opposition as enemies of the state and call those who voted for the opposition as free riders. Can't the PAP be more gracious and accept the wishes of the voters?
Its called arrogance, he doesn't think that voters have brains to think for themselves..
Insecurity, that's the word, and we all know the reason.
Mr LKY once said’ we will never let any opposition even get one leg in the door!’ Well some have and many didnt last. Lets see how Pritam singh does. Intelligent guy, fast thinking and calm. Too bad he got a little emotional here.
Great leaders are NEVER insecure
They are called opposition for a reason.
Jo Teo is the ultimate free rider of people’s vote
Some of the commenters here who says that PM Lee is calling all oppisition voters are “free riders” clearly did not watch finish the whole clip or is clearly blinded.
PM Lee clearly stated that ppl should vote for the party whom they believe that they can do a good job for them. Not jump on some “I need an opposition bandwagon and knowing that the PAP has done a decent job.
That’s morally wrong and we should not promote such a mindset and culture.
*facepalm*
Can someone help me explain to this PAP extremis what I mean. I merely took the phrase out to refer to another situation lol
97ohmygod i would want to but it’s not rly relevant to whatever you just said so you can just let this one slide into the “who cares” section
@@benjaminwee9815 It is called accepting the diversity of ideology of the other parties. You can't define what is wrong and what is right. There is no such thing as right or wrong in politics. Politics is only base on democracy for which thr system benefits the Country and it's people's interest at heart. Nothing more than an iron fist.
JT CCS HSK all came in via riding on coattails.
isnt the grc a free rider system?
Firstly, the GRC was introduced by a leader every Singaporean adore. Me LKY. Yet they criticise his policies. The irony...
Second, give our majority Chinese population, without the GRC system do u believe that new MPs who are non-Chinese will be able to get elected? I certainly doubt so. Mr Singh would not have been here tdy.
@@benjaminwee9815 I am Chinese and have MORE faith in Pritam Singh and Tharman, both non-Chinese, than some of the Chinese candidates we have seen and MPs from the past till present. The younger generation sees less colour and want more substance.
@@benjaminwee9815 LKY worked hard and adored Singaporeans but he also criticizes them from time to time... What irony is there?
Given our majority Chinese population, Aljunied GRC still elected a WP team with 3 minorities. One of the most, and some say the most popular PAP politician, Tharman, would probably face little to no problem with re-election.
Does the GRC system need to have 5-6 man teams leading to the "free rider" claims some make against PAP newcomers? Honestly speaking, they can just return to having 3-4 person GRCs and put this to rest.
10-20 years ago when they enter in as fresh faces. Given ur Chinese roots who would u have voted?
An Indian or Chinese?
I believe u will be more incline to go with ur roots.
@@benjaminwee9815 If you read some of the books authored by LKY, you would think differently. Also if you think that every Singaporean worships LKY, I can make a guess that you're one of the old timers. If I'm wrong then you are brainwashed.
The new generation questions what is being done to get the result rather than celebrate what is given to them, hence we are called "Free Riders".
Honestly disappointed with LHL being so sour grapes about the fact that oppositions have won 2 constituencies. It is like LHL congratulated PS for the win yet stab him in the back in Parliament house. Like seriously, are they suppose to discuss more important issues than to argue such petty issue about whether the opposition or PAP deserves to be in the parliament house?
Privileged Cronies and Fat Pay Check Free Riders
I I Should debate on salary cut for MPs n top civil servants.
a paper Brigadier General without zero war experience , only good in fixing opps parties , shame on you
@@abetterman1927 Definitely not like the father who had real political experience...
Have to say, Pritam is really growing on me. Excellent speeches all round and brilliant words to the heart. Totally not awed by PM Lee's aura and more than held his ground.
One of the better exchange in parliament these days. I see our democracy growing, here's hoping for more.
Voting in Jurong sounds like a “free rider system”. Of the 5 candidates, I only know Mr. Tharman. It is definitely not my intention to have any of the other 4 represent me even if I voted / had voted for PAP.
So what should I do Mr. Prime Minister?
In 2016, Hillary Clinton won more votes, but Trump won the election.
Pinky: if u cannot beat me,join me n together we free ride sinkies
He is just trying to go straight to the point. He is decisive because in anyways, his teaching the people behind the back. Im pretty sure. Dont jus look at the surface. If u dont know anything why not rn jus side him. One day you can see the outcome. Dun fear jus continue to do our best!
16:16 So is Jo T supposed to be held accountable for the boom in covid cases happening in the foreign worker dormitories? Was it because she didn’t know her ministry well enough to know that the communal living space is a breeding ground for Covid?
Because she hasn’t admit nor deny that it was due to her lack of judgement that it happened and recently said that no migrant worker demanded an apology. If someone doesn’t demand an apology doesn’t mean that you did no wrong. What mindset is this? Does she educate her children with the same mindset?
It ok to breed infections as long as there r not making babies.
This is her arrogant background per se. 😉
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
What's the point my friends. Ppl of her constituency voted her and her colleagues in. So why cry wolf now. Congrats to the ppl of Jalan Besar. Woohoo!!!!
@@HarwinderSingh-yl2yp I should feel that they were voting for PAP most of the time. It's the brand name. Also, the opposition party at Jalan Besar was not very strong like the WP. Singaporeans won't vote blindly.
We need more ministers like Pritam Singh to move forward. With that mindset.
Pritam is not a minister
we cannot stress our ministers too much and let them relax so they don't become angry and screw us over
Well done Pritam👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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Great and wonderful and professional debate from both ! Keep up Pritam Singh ! Singapore needs a very strong opposition to make out good or even better of the ruling government !. Singapore wants both the ruling and the opposition parties to be professionally strong !.
Superb Mr Pritam!!! Salute to you! HOUGANG, ALJUNIED AND SENGKANG ARE NOT FREERIDERS!!!!!
PM Lee is clearly not referring to them. He’s referring to all Singaporean’s in general
@@benjaminwee9815 l will take note come next Election.
Free riders???? Your party mps are all free riders! WP work hard to deserve where they are today! Aljunied, SK and Hougang residents know very well who they vote, and why they vote!
I think too much emphasis was placed on the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was simply DESCRIBING the voting process where a select few who voted against what they truly wanted. It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended have probably taken it out of context.
@@shweig4325 Same can be said that in fact it's you who have taken it out of context what? Why is it that your claim that it's out of context is right? As a listener I observed that PM Lee quickly went to clarify and change his term of free rider after Pritam Singh called him out on it for using such a term on residents form Aljunied and Sengkang. So you see, there are two views to it.
You don't even know what PM meant.
@@Wilson24678 talking to me?
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
Steady Mr Pritam Singh, truly salute your leadership n spoke on the citizen behalf. We are not FREE RIDERS🙄
Im not desperate for power PM..slam LHL..well said mr singh🙂
Im impressed with Mr Singh. So grateful to have Mr Singh
How I wish Pritam is our PM instead! Sincere and passionate about representing the ordinary folks... Carry on the great work, Pritam ! I truly respect your team ..
😂😅🤣
The sudden attack on opposition just shows how salty our PM is. In the past attacks were common on oppositions, but right now the attacks even went on the voters in Singapore. Outrageous. 60.1% still can’t wake up their mind.
If we pay the minister millions, we need them to SOLVE the problem and not just IDENTIFY the problem.
Well said!
They have been identifying the problems for 10 years and yet most were solved using the BAN HAMMER without further questioning or pondering on alternatives. PAP's ability to identify a problem is something to be reckon with but their ability to solve something is literal braindead.
Not just report. What did the authority do to stop infection of Covid 19 at the dormitories of foreign workers or allowing imported cases from India into Singapore.
They have been solving many problems but apparently not solving the problems that you care about. What makes you so sure the opposition can solve more problems than the incumbent government without creating new problems?
@@xcavorgreen187you are not thinking. There are many many intelligent people in Singapore. A problem is a problem. Is not just reporting like Dengue fever. You must admit failure and call for new ideas to reduce the cases of dengue fever
well done pritam bro
Brilliant Pritam. So thankful that the people of Aljunied and Sengkang were brave enough to sacrifice for the good of Singapore.
Exactly what have they sacrificed if Pritam is really that brilliant?
They are not sacrificing they did everyone a favour including themselves
Privileged Cronies and Fat Pay Check Free Riders
@@christelsands3861 PAP is going to find some way to deny them resources they rightfully deserve.
@@catcatcat9055 Did you write a script to do this or are you doing it manually? LOL
“Free riders” are generals or Temasek CEOs becoming MPs
As an Indian American who lives in Singapore, I must say I'm envious of Singaporeans for the intelligence and civility of their leaders, in both the government and the opposition. While LHL rightfully argues that people should vote for who they sincerely believe in rather than voting opposition for opposition's sake, he openly appreciates his opponent's commitment to the wellbeing of Singaporeans, and respects his motivation as sincere, rather than imprisoning or defaming his opponent as many in the west would have predicted of Singapore's govt. At the same time, while Pritam Singh rightfully argues that the need of an opposition is important in matters such as asking for data that is not being openly provided by the govt but is needed to make decisions critical to Singaporeans, he openly admits the PAP has done well for the average Singaporean.
I understand the frustration of both PAP and WP voters with the other party, but it must be noted that your democracy functions so much better than mine in American precisely because of the basic respect these leaders have for the other side. Unfortunately, I am not hearing that level of respect for those you disagree with in the comments here. Singaporeans must remember to cherish and exemplify the basic decency that their leaders treat each other with in the political discourse shown here. The rest of the world envies your quality of government, never mind the rest of the countries in Southeast asia, could not in their dreams imagine the quality of leaders and government you have, because in every other country, the toxicity and blaming and enmity of politics overcomes the basic desire to do right by people that all of the leaders in Singapore show. If Singaporeans fail to appreciate this and spiral further into animosity towards those they disagree with, their government will end up similar to that of other diverse democracies like India and the US, and trust me, you don't want that.
Never replied to a comment before but this deserves my first. Amazing thoughts and holistic views. Thanks for appreciating our country when our own countrymen do not, to some extent.
This is very well articulated. I do not generally comment on TH-cam, but your response made me go beyond just watching this video. I can testify to this coming from India that at one point politics becomes bigger than the nation and the damage it causes is hard to reverse. A place like Singapore cannot afford that instability. The civility and intelligence of the leaders as you have rightly pointed out is missing in India and many other democracies. The honesty that ministers show here is heartening to see.
I really wish Singapore and Singaporeans continue to prosper in the coming decades.
Sad that most Singaporeans cannot see your view, I have been in Australia for the past 17 years, and really come to appreciate Singapore now and how the political system work here, but unfortunately, most Singaporeans cannot see it, comes down to this, people always want things they don't have," we don't have opposition, so we need opposition, White people are too white, so they love a tan, the list goes on"...I thought this was one of LHL best speeches I have heard so far, was never a fan of his, but I think he inherited the will of his late father to some extend, so quite impressed today.
I beg to differ. While I appreciate the level of 'civility' in the Parliament and the 'respect' they have shown to each other, we must not be mistaken that the 'quality' in the comment section in social media should parallel that in our Parliament, that comprises all citizens and no one else. Besides, it is very seldom that foreigners truly understand the intricacies of other countries' political situation, let alone judge if our politicians are truly working for the people.
Respect has to be earned, so they say. Beyond basic respect for each other as human beings, I agree that respect between politicians and citizens have to be earned, both ways. As long as they are not lying, misrepresenting facts or telling half-truths, I welcome opinions from fellow citizens, be they crude or outright emotional. At least they come across as honest and are easier to confront than politically correct hypocrisy that allows dishonest politicians to get off the hook by not calling them out.
@@christelsands3861 the unique thing about singapore is, u see the results whether u like the politicians or not, sure u can also blame them for everything, but compared to other countries, singapore is like a unique jewel. Learn to appreciate what you have as it wont last forever, my feeling so far on social media is how much disdain people have for PAP with just that, emotions and blame for evrything you find imperfect even though they are listening and changing, like lowering ministers pay etc... at a certain point, I think listening to the people who do not know anything besides their own comfort and interest is a bad thing to do, hence the late mr lee being known as an autocratic ruler by some, but it works, the only example of a good autocratic ruler with love for the country and people. My conclusion is PAP will or might lose the next election, esp if LHL is no longer PM and the sad Heng taking over.
I appreciate this exchange, our democracy is really maturing right before our eyes.
Agree, that's the point of parliament regardless of who we believe
If not everybody get high pay and policies get written without scrutiny for what sia
This is nothing new in singapore lol 😂. It has been like that for years. The only time you must be surprised if malaysian parliment end up being like this 😂😂
Malaysian Parliments is the best
@Weilun Sheng yea very sad to hear that from mr singh he shud be hungry to rule,not jus grc must aim dream big
Look at Pritam. Now we understand why the RK saga
He is not up to the grade
Nice quote by Mr Pritam: I'm not desperate for power!
Like a swan swimming on the water, I am elegant and calm....but peddling frantically in the water
That was a sincere quote from Pritam. Only such people who does not give preference for power or money can be have interest of the people in the heart.
@@sharonelizabethchua7726 how do you?
Nasir Ibrahim know
@@nursu9073 huh know wat? Hahaha
Pritam has every capability to be a PM. Singaporeans have always been ready for a Non-Chinese PM. When our independence was given, YBI was the president. No one said that we are not ready for independence when our president is a Malay so give us a Chinese president and then give us independence. Its dumb and plain racist to say such statements after 50 plus years of multi-racial harmony. It has certainly backfired for the ruling party.
Pritam is a good orator and seems to have a great leadership attributes. But he also needs a great team around him, that's currently lacking.
She indian
Pritam shines well.Be be the next PM
THIS is what we want in singapore. Proper debate by capable leaders, even though I don't agree on one side.
If Dr.Chee has a Seat then It's much more effective
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
This is wrong, we need to give PAP leaders all the trust and raise their salary more so they dont misuse their power
Stay blessed stay strong mr singh
Pritam is so so so so so so good.......
Putting family members in key positions just because they are family members is the ultimate free riding parade man.
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The PM just insulted the large number of people who voted for the opposition. Treating them as ignorance and cowards .... what’s the point of educating the people but just want them to be followers? It makes no sense, we vote for the opposition because we love our country and wants it to really move forward.
Sounds awfully similar to the CCP now doesn't it?
Did u watch finish the whole video? Lol
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free rider votes for opposition? What about gerrymandering (GRC system, redrawing GRC boundaries, exploiting timing of crisis or founding PM's passing) and manipulation of rules every election by the ruling party?
I think too much emphasis was placed on the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was simply DESCRIBING the voting process where a select few who voted against what they truly wanted. It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended has taken it out of context.
Hiring fresh graduate position require 30 years experience ...it's so hard to find anyone that can fit the bill..
All horses are by nature wild. They deserved to be trained to be Champions likewise Singaporean fresh graduates.
@@acheable much easier to breed show dogs in Singapore for a dog loving nation. Horses r for real men and show dogs r for real wimps
@@gha9543 Ya, all about horse power. Brave men/women should cry in secret..
@@acheable
You can't train donkeys and psycho them to think that they are Race Horse pure breds
@@taytk8005 Never give up. Remember there is no bad soldiers only bad generals.
PM Lee, to correct you, I would say voting in more opposition is indeed an outcome singaporeans would want to have, so that more robust debate about policies, and less of blank cheques.
As for whether the opposition can form an alternate government or a shadow cabinet at this point in time, I think all of us do not need you to state us the obvious.
Maybe in future elections and when u have 50 percent of the members of parliament being opposition MPs, then we would like to hear what you have to say and appraise of the situation then.
2025...2025...
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
Thanks for this video with captions. It allows us "hearing challanged" to appreciate and understand parliamentary speech and exchanges. Well done👍.
PM Lee is being pretty disrespectful if he judge people wishes as free rider.
I don't know what PAP supporters expected when they voted for them, and its just after elections, people will only dig until 2 years ago, won't dig past 2 years so the next election they are safe.
Listen again: he called the opposition free rider and not the voters
@@xcavorgreen187 ur the one who should read or listen again
Mr Lee said in his speech that the WP had campaigned on this platform, before citing an anecdote told to him by Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean, who said a resident was “perturbed” because her friends told her it was fine to vote for the opposition because the "the Government would still be in charge".
“If you say vote against the Government because somebody else will look after getting the PAP Government and you just become a free rider, and you vote opposition, no harm, the PAP will still be there, then I think the system must fail," Mr Lee said in his speech.
"Her friends" are definitely no opposition and normal voters. He said the WP used this as a campaigning tool, true, but definitely the free riders were referring to the voters and not the opposition.
@@kakaboo Jamus lim said on national debate that "PAP will win again the election anyways, blar blar blar, "
@@logicrule real example of a free rider is PAP candidate Ivan. Also a president who did not need to have to be elected.
9:01 Parliament need an upgrade on the air conditioning system
So long never have a OP to talk against him for so long, He sweated! LOL
Yo, they can't do that because of circulation of air. Covid can be transmitted thru air therefore the sweaty looks
You are as ignorant as it gets
Yes, for one person only.
So obvious like Abesan who obviously treat his health seriously than hold power, PM must take a overdue breather to resolve his glaring sweaty problem otherwise don a wind breaker to conceal his abnormality.
Most shock'g that only PM not wear'g mask in Parliament. This is not his style of go'g against advice to protect himself and MPs in a room from rampant COVID 19.
Some using the parliament as a napping place. Some use it as a place to exercise their head by nodding it throughout the sitting. Or show that they loyalty to their master.
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@@yeeyeepow261 p
Great speech pritam singh...i can see you are sincere to help fellow singaporeans....so long you do not worship money and amass wealth, you wl go very far,do good things to people and you will leave a legacy ....🤲
How about those PAP MPs who were in a walkover situation and were not even voted in, were they not free riders?
I think too much emphasis was placed on the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was simply DESCRIBING the voting process where a select few who voted against what they truly wanted. It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended has taken it out of context.
Shwei G Who will vote against their will?
Awesome.
Parachuted IN then can clasify FREE RIDERS!!!!
In the US we call them free loaders. Lol
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
8:18 Made this observation, thought I would point it out here too. Realised that LO Pritam's speech was applauded by many MPs, notably - Min K Shanmugam and Min Grace Fu. Kudos to LO.
Great showing on the part of both LO Pritam Singh and PM Lee Hsien Loong. If this is the rigour and poise of the debates in parliament in the future, I think Singapore can really benefit from it.
Agreed. People only know how to bicker about the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was REFERRING TO the voting process (and applies to the select few who voted against what they truly wanted). It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended has taken it out of context.
Mr Pritam Singh should be the next PM for Singapore🙏, even he have mentioned that he is not desperate for power.. And i wish you should have and deserve more power💪 soon Mr Pritam Singh. And please continue to fight for the Singaporeans🙏 By the way, good debating with the Mr Pink Shirt Man👍
Singapore will become india.goverment rich n citizen will poorer
I look at Mr. Loong and I see a man who is better than me. We should ALL aspire to his integrity, his intelligence and his compassion.
As an American in Singapore i had no idea government could work so well. I get why many feel you need an opposition but be mindful of all that entails. My country is deeply divided because of the two parties. It seems like it would be a positive and each party would try and out do each other and make the country better. Quite the opposite happens and they end trying to damage each other. What the PM is saying is true. If you vote opposition when you actually want PAP to stay in power is not right. You should reward your leadership as they truly are the best I have ever seen. Just my thoughts
I totally agree with u. Personally I have been reading a lot of comments and have realized there is an increasing number of Singaporeans supporting the opposition out of emotions instead of facts and rationality. As a young Singaporean, I get worried.
Because the ruling party has been putting artificial barriers to prevent a credible opposition to be build up. From now it still requires 30 yrs to build a strong opposition. PAP system is the real free rider.
@@remytangooo
作为一位年轻人
你有担心 必须要有作为 发声或者勸解 这是为你的以后你后代
不能像中国一批愤青 到处摇旗呐喊 到处惹人厌 有人担心但靜默 不出言制止或勸解 而有些偶尔偷着乐
哈哈 结果是人家惹不起 可躲得起 离开中国不跟你玩了
自已玩 中国可以 新加坡可以自已玩?
Mr pritam singh great speech btw .👍👍👍
I think this really needs to be said: not voting for the PAP is not an unpatriotic thing to do.
Not voting for WP or the opposition is not an unpatriotic thing to do.
Voting for whom you want to be the government without succumbing to tempting talk by free-riders is the patriotic thing to do.
@@christelsands3861 how incredibly patronising.
Christel Sands well said
Voting in the first place is patriotism. Who we choose to vote for needs to be respected - dislike this whole shebang of insulting our votes in the first place....
@@da0kia Nobody is insulting your votes. WP makes it seems so by twisting PM's words. If you choose to be blind and manipulated, it does not mean others have to censor their speech to soothe your fragile feelings or suit your personal agenda.
Lhl so patronising.. insulting the intelligence of rational, thinking citizens.
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
Power mr singh..
Kudos to Pritam Singh for his eloquent speech and his quiet confidence. It is ridiculous that even with the poor showing at the last elections, PAP still focuses on the wrong things. Most of your current voters are well-educated - do you think we vote without thinking through and without making an informed decision?
To be honest, yes Some of the Singaporean’s do not hold a good judgement. They vote knowing that the PAP is doing a decent job. However, they jumped on the bandwagon of wanting an opposition.
I firmly and fairly believe that people should vote for the party they think will do the best job. Give credit when it’s due. Be fair.
Should everyone have that mindset of being a free rider, that’s morally wrong. And Mr Singh should not advocate that.
@@benjaminwee9815 PAP is already advocating the free rider mindset with the GRC system.
@@benjaminwee9815 I believe that the voters you are concerned with only did so out of frustration with the GRC system, and the PAP's government bias against elected opposition members. Not their judgement at fault. I wouldn't blame them for what they did as they were driven by frustration against an unfair system.
Koh officially entered Singapore politics in January 2013, when he contested in his first parliamentary election at the Punggol East SMC by-election as the PAP's candidate. He was defeated by the candidate of the Workers' Party, Lee Li Lian.
In 2015, Koh contested in the general elections as a part of the six-member PAP team in Ang Mo Kio GRC in which the team won and Koh was elected into parliament.
On 23 April 2018, Koh joined the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) and was appointed as NTUC's Deputy Secretary-General.
2020 - elected into parliament through Tampines GRC.
Leaving this here for everyone to discuss about free riding...
So many interpretations of free riding and people taking things out of context, I think he only meant one particular scenario that he do not wish is the case, people jumping to the defence of sad Pritam who cannot even defend himself?
@@logicrule PM of Singapore cant clarify himself if this is something that people will take out of context ? Need people like you to jump to his defence also ? It was clear as sky what he meant, you are the one who are taking things out of context. Plus, no one is defending Pritam - they are commenting on what PM Lee said about "free riders". It would have been the same reaction even if the person on the other side was not Pritam but a PAP MP. It would have been the same if Pritam didnt choose to reply or comment to PM Lee's speech. There could have been no one who bothered to reply to PM Lee's speech but you will still have gotten the same reaction on this "free rider".
@@kakaboo lol the one who got triggered in the video was clearly pritam who took everything out of context, and hence his sheeps started whinging everywhere. "You calling me free rider? U siao ah"... dont need to defend pm lee, he already did it, just reinterating to people who cannot listen, sounds like someone is triggered here too
@@logicrule do you actually know what PM Lee was referring to when he said "free rider"?
@@logicrule let me explain to you, how calling WP "free riders" is backfiring on the PAP.
But before that, I have to explain to you the correct definition of a free rider. A free rider problem arises when a user taking advantage of a public good available for everyone to consume.
Here is why LHL is wrong. It is not right to say PAP is a public good that WP is leveraging on to appeal to the voters. By saying that, they themselves are also free riders in opposition wards. Their campaign in Aljunied GRC was "Bring Us Home". Ownself shoot ownself.
PS's campaign was to deny PAP of a blank check. That should be how a democracy works. Calling WP free riders is like the chicken rice store uncle calling the drink store uncle beside him a "free rider" cuz his chicken rice got MSG and make the people thirsty and hence the drink store uncle profit from chicken rice uncle.
Tio bo? Correct wording coming out of PM Lee's mouth should be: WP complements the PAP in a true democracy. By using the sharp language, PM Lee is the butthurt one here.
Throughout the whole debate, if you have a good eye, you could see that PM Lee was using very sharp and negative language on PS, while PS was being very neutral.
We are still waiting for our East Coast plan, till now no news!
There is no East Coast Plan. You were fooled.
I have better things to do rather than wasting time waiting for the news of that East Coast Plan
only east coast pple will know
😂😂😂 wait long long.......
My fren frm east coast says so far nvr hear anything abt the east coast plan
Mr. Pritam Singh, you are indeed a very patient gentleman !!! But I won't spend 15 minutes talking to a man with a brain smaller than the head of a matchstick, and expect a respectable answer !!! I am waiting to vote WP again in GE2025 !!!
Well done Pritam.
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It was notable that Mr Singh raised his hand to request for permission to speak but Why did PM Lee didn’t respect the protocol by waiting for the Speaker of Parliament to grant permission for him to speak? PM Lee didn’t even wait to be called n permitted to take the stand. He just stood up and bulldozed his way towards the microphone before SoP could opened his mouth. I find it very difficult to trust PAP who over rides the Speaker of Parliament?
I agree with PM about voting sincerely but saying those who voted for ALTERNATIVE Parties are "free-riders" who voted based on WP's campaign direction is wrong, imo. If you realistically look at the % of votes won by even PSP (first-time party), it tells a diff story? Regarding morals, whose morals based on whose standard? Does that mean that PAP's campaign strategy has ALWAYS been moral? I think words like "free-riders" and "immoral" in this case is hard to justify. Sincerity is key, and btw, shedding some tears does not equate sincerity.
PM's definition of free-rider is not what u understand that term to mean simplistically. nothing wrong with voting opposition. PM is calling out those who vote for opposition BUT who actually want a PAP MP running the show in their constituency. Now THAT is a free rider because this person is free riding on OTHERS' genuine voting. It means this person casted a false vote and that also is PM's narrow definition of "immoral" in this sense, when you vote against what you believe in. If enough people adopt this mindset then one fine day you might just win the wrong lottery.
@@ChristopherYongI think very small minority are free rider, less than 1% whereas the PAP system winning 90% of seats with 60% of votes is more worrying free rider. They have been artificially stifling the opposition from being built up.
@@markfish1113 agree with your point. that’s a valid criticism of the pap system. not sure about your 1% tho lol who can know how many?
Free riders are the MPs elected through GRCs...
Hats of to Pritam Singh! Class disposition. We need more such debates between the PM and Pritam Singh. But why are they wasting tax payers money on such a topic as voter morality/ behaviour? Uncalled speculation by LHL when he said "what will happen to S'pore?" This seem to be the age old assumption that only the PM and the PAP care about Spore and have the intelligence to govern. Why can't voter decision be just respected and get on with parliamentary business? 10 opposition members can't be making the all powerful PM sweat?
You are wrong there are many evil forces out there, so we need to just trust the incumbent and just pray for the best!
The only free rider here is the one who inherited and ruined his father's legacy
The "free-rider" term PM used was explicitly referring to the voting process. You probably have taken it out of context.
LHL has proven himself to be a very capable leader in the world stage and in Singapore. and it's not fair to keep going back to who his father is. He has made his own mark. Only the biased cannot see.
@@shweig4325 ya but I'm not referencing what he said, I'm just putting a face to the term free rider.
Our Democracy is in serious trouble.
If only TCB and CSJ were elected in, it would have been an awesome Clash of the Titans debate.
Sad lah. CSJ can wait until next election. TCB no time liao.
This is only made possible because the people reject them
TCB was so close though
@@MasterChiefSpartan I
@@MasterChiefSpartan u
Mr Singh exemplifies the worth of what a minister should be paid.definitely not millions
I reproduced the comments by a Countess below because the comments were spot-on: "There are more educated Singaporeans since the time of your father, my Dear PM. We know who we voted for and what’s at stake. we expect you to be able to take blows from Opposition like a champ , only then you can speak of world-class parliament".
Yes, if u watch the whole video, u will understand that PM Lee clarified that it’s people who wants PAP has the gov, but got brainwashed into the “I need an opposition gov” bandwagon.
That’s morally wrong to be fair and Mr Singh should not promote such a culture. People should not vote opposition cos there is a need to have one. If the opposition is not of quality, do we still vote them in? Cannot be right.
We should encourage ppl to vote for the party that they deep down BELIEVE will best serve their needs and PM Lee has clearly clarified that.
Mr Singh should prove his party capability by sharing new ideas instead of brainwashing people of needing an opposition.
Get the votes based on true capability, isn’t that the best for Singapore?
@@benjaminwee9815 yes, fully agree. PAP and their new MPs indeed very disappointing. WP and their 10 MPs are significantly better in this 3 days alone.
More educated but less aware of the world around them unlike the 60s and 70s generation. Because if them Singapore is standing up with the modern world. If education cant open your mind then no good la
If these companies leave Singapore then our educated lot where to go? no job no livelihood
@@benjaminwee9815 We had voted for PAP all these years and based on the latest elections, still voting for it. The Singapore populace, however, is more educated and politically more mature. I daresay ALL Singaporeans want what's best for Singapore. And based on PAP's performance in the past years, some have realised that PAP is not attracting the top talents. Worse, they seem to come from the same mould. The Opposition parties, however, have managed to attract high calibre and interesting members like Pritam Singh, Jamus, Paul Tambyah, etc. They are Singaporeans who are willing to step up for the country. They cld easily just be 'freeriders". So, gotta give such courageous Singaporeans a chance to contribute to the country. The ruling party shld try to be thankful for more brain power to strategise for the future of Singapore. In 2025, voters will vote out the inferior candidates. In the meantime, let's just all work together to tackle the challenges at hand rather than still harping on voting for the opposition.
Pritam singlehandedly did a pap smear.
No wonder his face look so cloudy...
Pritam Singh is excellent 👍🏻
Opposition voters are free riders???!!! So now we have the Singaporean PAP and the non Singaporean Opposition?
How are we free riders when we are still paying for GST, taxes for giving MPs salary. etc.
😂😂
we have even done NS for the govt as required, how is this free riding :(
@@A567Pro :((
If I was Singaporean, I would be proud to have such a Leader of the Opposition - a position that ought to have been there 50 years ago.
Pritam should be the next PM
Hell no
No..
yesss pritam pm
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Pritam needs to stay on his guns and not let PAP side track the issues with long irrelevant response. LHL have no same to bring up morality on voting when he change the system whenever he wishes to suit his party, did I mention how the current president got her seat? disgusting....shame on LKY.
We not only need leaders like Pritam Singh we need transparencies from every quarters be it opposition or ruling government. We can only achieve this by amending or discard laws preventing freedom of speech.
It is the duty of the present government to deliver but at the end of the day the people must be able to live with dignity! I am one of the victims of circumstances which can never resolve due to civil service doctrination. The lunch are for capable leaders to lead the future generations forward and don't force people to take side s.
After contemplating this session:
I honestly and sincerely vote WORKER'S PARTY to be the next government.
Pritam Singh , are raising issues concerning Singaporean needs .
PM lee focus on foreign relations , is more of self-desires for Singaporean , it might not help many Singaporean, but is helping PM lee cabinet ministes , leaders and businessman .
Pm lee definitely have good business mind . Is time to switch .
Allow opposition to run the economy growth.
Pritam Singh have more innovative solutions and diverse ideas for Singapore and Singaporean than PM Lee .
Well done Pritam
Mm, why does PM Lee keep coming back to the point of free riders?
Pritam Singh has firmly rejected that assertion and stood by his voters who voted because they wanted an alternative voice, which goes to show their desire to 1) support a democratic framework 2) sees the benefits of that.
By harping on that argument of free ridership, you seem to be casting a shadow over those who vote seriously for the workers party that won them a GRC like Sengkang.
The reason it made history is because as Pritam said, our framework hasnt been very aligned democratically for all these years!
So why the thought that the votes that put Sengkang GRC on the opposition line is a matter of free ridership and not a matter of conviction and heart?
Benedict C Who’s calling the tax payers free riders? I thought It should be the other way round if someone who extremely highly paid under perform?
Singapore is a world class and first world country due to prudent and forward-looking social and economic management.
He is also the second Indian WP MP after the late JB Jeyaratnam.
Thank u Mr Pritam Singh for responding to PM Lee's Major Speech abt Covid-19 and Past Reserves.
Don't forget you lost more supporters already. Just digging your grave if keep same pattern.
Privileged Cronies Free Riders
It is better for PAP to forget. Then more GRC fall to opposition. Good for Singapore.
MasterChief 117 Opposition has just beaten PAP at their own game, the GRC. Sore loser.
Maureen Kam are you calling the PAP sore losers ? If so, I am inclined to agree with you.
MasterChief 117 I can’t see why they must make a ruckus when they still win the majority seat.
LIKE for Pritam Singh! He sure has come a long way!
Charge capital gains tax on foreigners when they sell their property. Collect money.
Mr Singh is just being modest on saying not being power crazy,but he shouldn’t be shy to be ambitious nothing wrong to be if you have the will,
I support pritam Singh
U just supported someone who is promoting free ridership. That’s morally wrong...
@@benjaminwee9815 lol the grc and pap is the free ridership
@@benjaminwee9815 but he literally said he doesnt like the term free riders lmao
@@benjaminwee9815 it's people like you making stupid comments is the reason why PAP is losing popularity with the youths.
@@benjaminwee9815 ah, another PAP mouthpiece. now child, listen with an open mind.
1. The GRC system is fundamentally flawed. You need to choose competent people to run the town councils. They will also form your government if most of the competent people are from the same party.
2. It is NOT a problem of free rider problem. I believe Pritam's campaign was to deny PAP of a blank check. It is a wrong use of the economic term "free rider". Free riders make use of public goods available to benefit themselves. Both PAP and opposition MPs are competing for the same type of public goods, aka. our votes. You could also flip the table and say that in Aljunied, Hougang wards, the PAP's slogan was Bring Us Home. The PAP is not the public good. WE, the people are the "public good" in this scenario. They themselves are also trying to hop on to buy our votes. Hence, they themselves are also free riders. Ownself shoot ownself @ pap
Pritam's speech is inspirational. LHL and his free rider speech is petty and insulting to Singaporeans and shows that in spite of his earlier responses to the election results when he came across as humbled, there is no genuine desire to change.
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Why LHL not wearing mask when seated and not speaking?! SDA!
Privileged
niehiuh siao did you even watch the whole video?
Pritam Singh is just a passionate and charismatic speaker! Our dpm need to learn from him haha 😹😹😹
To PM Mr Lee, I totally agree with your speech and rationales you have given due to certain sensitivity/confidential details, but my vote still goes to the Opposition. Why?
Not because I know PAP going to win the elections anyway and PAP to carry on to do the job, so I could enjoy the "free ridership" you mentioned.
It's because it's not just about you. You and your team consist of many members. How assure are you, today, all team members have the same mindset, same idealogy, same mentality as you? You are just ONE out of a number of it.
Voting for Oppositon in so as to have a 3rd party, an alternative voices and sights to make sure the Govt is doing things right. Of course, if the Opposition is not doing the right things and PAP is in the right shape, they will be voted out.
Winning 60% over votes, but gaining over 90% seats in the Parliment, you have the biggest shoutout. So hope you shall stop fretting over this. Let's work things out together.
I have depend on myself to survive in this harsh reality under the system you and your party created. Hence, I don't agree on the "free ridership" quote.
Opposition is there to provide alternative views, voice and also to assist in overseeing that we are all in the right track.....
To be fair and square, if the Oppositon are strong and capable enough to overtake the current Govt, they too will have to show their capabilities. Fair competition. You promoted this, ain't it?
Are u stupid?
@@jamilm4668 Great argument
@@jamilm4668 Not sure if you are smart enough to comment.
@@user-bw3lu8ey5e is your mother disabled?
@@jamilm4668 I'm sure your mum is.
Thx for the supercut video, CNA 😊
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Mr.Pritam Singh,
the next Prime Minister of Singapura, intelligent, articulate with good command of English, and very sure his Malay the national language of Singapore must be as good as his English.The best opposition party.👍👍👍
Can we have the speaker shown as an image in the top right corner and the main screen show showing the rest of the parliament like sleeping, talking, playing on phone, snickering, sneering?
The Opposition are voted in by Singaporeans. We are the final decision maker. They deserve equal offices as all MP must. Stop fixing the Opposition.
When you asked the support of your investors and they say, “well, we want another perspective so we’ll put in some of other people onboard.”
Company: “sure but then I’ll make sure to spent 15-20 minutes every meeting to make them feel unwelcome instead of discussing important matters and solving problems for the company!”
Investors: “...”
Quite an interesting start for Parliament. When will the finance minister gonna give his speech? I'm waiting for Jamus to grill him like satay. 😂😂😂
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Its the citizens duty to do their part to vote party out when they are failing the people. Thank you Pritam for helping the people.
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LHL is a free rider himself!!!
Insecurity haunts one throughout their lives and often it rises to such levels where he can't accept anyone who has worked hard to win the votes to get elected into parliament.
Free rider is nepotism from father to son being PM without any merit.
Free rider is like someone who join NS and straight away be Brigadier General.
There are many in the families of free riders are also free riders.
Free rides on his father’s legacy
21:18 while pritam is speaking, PAP cabinet busy whatsapping on their phones
They need to find a volunteer to rebut
Privileged Cronies and Fat Pay Check Free Riders
Ng eng hen deciding when to take ippt
Prolly in their pap grp chats AHAH
All panicking in the grp chat how to respond
2:22 Government Minister fallen asleep during parliamentary session. The chair is very comfortable indeed! 😲