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A lot of people requested Badfinger so here it is…
Thank you very much...
Next if possible...Can you do a video profiling No Doubts first singer John Spence?
@@GonzoShitcock can you go to our request form and submit this so I don’t forget this one? Thanks. Link is in the description box
@@rnrtruestories Sure thing
Thank you for putting this one together!
Definitely one of your best videos. My God, what happened to Badfinger was a literal crime. Easily the most tragic Rock band story ever. Rocking In Peace forever: Pete Ham and Tom Evans.
My friend and I were driving through NJ in the early 80’s when we saw Badfinger on a billboard in front of a club. It was a Saturday afternoon, so we stopped and walked in to get more details as we both loved that band. As we walked into the club it was pretty dark as it was very early in the day and they were closed for business. There was nobody immediately there to talk to, but we heard some music coming from the back of the club, so we walked past the bar and to the back where, to our amazement, Badfinger was rehearsing. I don’t remember exactly how many people were there, but it was not many at all, like maybe 10 or 12. Nobody seemed to care that we were there, so we simply stood there and took in the rehearsal. One song after another, they played all their hits, and we got to enjoy it like we’ve never enjoyed a performance before or since. Badfinger was an incredible band that deserved much better than they got. That was about 40 years ago, and to this day I still look back on that moment as probably the best musical experience I have ever had.
@guildguitars6349 That's a terrific story. I have quite a number of terrific stories of my own. Some people just seem to be led by The Spirit, and ordinary people wind up in extraordinary situations. I shake my head daily, feeling grateful to the Master of my life.
That’s amazing. You were BLESSED THAT DAY ❤
Great story!!
Just Wow
It's hard to imagine another band that got screwed over so many times in so many different ways. Tragic doesn't even begin to describe it.
Like Rags to riches but the other way around... But only because of certain evil people. Their manager, and a Milwaukee con-man who sued Tommy.
Grand funk railroad,it was like hearingbthe same script!!! take a look!
Moby Grape
A truly remarkable and talented band, as great as any British invasion band ever in all ways except deserved reputation. Badfinger's legs were cut out beneath them in their prime by a corrupt NYC 'businessman' criminal named Stan Polley.
Unfortunately, the band is now synonymous with tragedy. Kudos for the video
Well said ..I thoroughly agree.
They suffered a lot of tragedy, especially Pete Ham. Another tragedy is being almost entirely forgotten by classic rock radio. Straight Up is an amazing album.
You don’t love Ass?
@@CorbCorbin Oh yeah, I like all the albums they put out on Apple but I think Straight Up is the best. I was just spinning No Dice last night coincidentally.
I remember driving around a few weeks ago and hearing their music being played . They still play some of their music where I live
@@CorbCorbin
I don’t think he got it.
They still get played here in canada
Insanely underrated band. “Without You” and “No Matter What” are some of the best pop songs ever written. Their song “Knocking Down Our Home” is beautiful too.
believe me is my fav song from them
My favorite of the band is Dear Angie, it’s such a cute love song
Day after Day is mine
@@UrScum absolutely beautiful song, I remember playing the whole first album at work and being mesmerized when it came on.
My Baby blue.
I had to look a long time to get Straight up.
You could purchase all other Badfinger albums but not that one
don' t know why.
Also, "Day After Day" is one of the greatest Rock songs ever recorded. Still one of my all-time favorites.
I’m 68 and still often listen to them, they did not deserve to be treated so bad….. Will put flowers on Pete’s grave next year when I visit Wales RIP boys you will always be remembered…
Good call mate ; "No Matter What" was an all time classic - Great Rock, great melody, great guitar fills
Would LOVE to think you'll get to fulfil your wish to put flowers on Pete Ham's grave
I would like to put flowers on Pete^s grave when I visit Wales someday...where exactly is its location...tks!
@@liza8423 managed to finally get flowers on his grave 👍
@norwichnorfolk1584
That's wonderful 😊 to locate his grave! 👍
@@liza8423 @Liza- It's located in Morriston Cemetery, Swansea, South Wales.
What happened to Badfinger was a literal crime. Easily the most tragic Rock band story ever. Rocking In Peace forever: Pete Ham and Tom Evans.
Don't forget drummer Mike Gibbins.
Imagine writing songs like ;;
Baby Blue
Without You
Day After Day
No Matter What
and then being told you were broke ... Stan Polley will burn in Hell
Ringside✌️
Don't forget "come and get it".
The bastid actually made it to 87, finally croaking on 7/20/2009.
@@eduardolamboy4776 Badfinger did a great job with that and it was a very pre-psychedelic-Beatles sounding hit written by Paul McCartney.
@@eduardolamboy4776 Paul McCartney wrote 'Come and get it'.
The story of Badfinger desperately needs to be made into a movie
Thank you for covering this! I am from the town that Pete ham and the band by and large came from, and the story of them was forever talked about. My dad got me my first kit came from John Ham (Petes's brother's music shop) in 1985 or something. I knew the sisters of the drummer too, Marian and Joyce. Years later, people still talk of it. A plaque has since been put up on a wall at Swansea Train station to commemorate Peter Ham.
I know you..! lol.!
@@DMSProduktions edited.
They are such an underrated band. Stan Polley was an f-ing soulless monster. I can't believe he got away with that. Pete Hamm should have offed Polley instead of himself. What he did was evil and unforgivable.
@@steevidrums ;o)
Baby Blue was on the very last scene of Breaking Bad. And that’s pretty awesome.
Until I saw this and read more about the band I had no idea Ham and Evans were drinking in a pub I frequent in the village I grew up in on the Night Pete tragically committed suicide. Thanks for the upload. And if you ever feel there's no way out please don't be scared to go get help. Speak to someone. You're loved and not alone ❤
Mat Peachey, Your post is much-needed by many. You never know who's reading comments & how they might be affected. Thank you.
Wonderful kind words fae Mat Peachey. ❤
What was the name of the pub ?
@@simu6244 the white Hart in pribright in Surrey.
They did speak to someone. It just wasn’t the right guy.
I was in my teens in the 80’s when I first heard Badfinger and was blown away at how good they were and saddened at the tragedy the band went through. I’m still a huge fan of there work in 2021 and thank you for doing a story on a band that left quite a legacy for being together just a short time.
I am a huge fan of the band as well even though there was a lot of tragedies going on their music is still great especially on songs like to come and get it and they after day with these two guitar players Pete ham and George Harrison playing on that wonderful guitar solo.
@@jesserussell7242 Check out Wish You Were Here (not the pink floyd record). Has some of their best work and is definitely their best album. Last with the classic lineup of Ham-Molland-Evans-Gibbins. My personal highlights are In the Meantime/Some Other Time and Meanwhile Back at the Ranch/Should I Smoke. Technically they're 4 songs, but pieced together to make them just two. Love Gibbins' vocals on In the Meantime, he should've sung more.
I got into Badfinger in the mid-1980's when all of their albums were long out of print. I recall finding them at used record swap meets in the late 1980's and playing them often. A couple of years later they were all reissued on CD. I own them all and enjoy them to this day. Some of my favorite songs are "They're Knocking Down Our Home", "I'd Die Babe", and "No One Knows". This story breaks my heart every time I hear it. May they all rest in peace.
The story of Badfinger needs to be a biopic. I'm sure it would be a bonafide tearjerker.
Yeah, that'd be great
It already is...
Gary j spitola..where can biopic of Badfinger be found please?
Thanks.
Yeah I definitely think we need a biopic for Badfinger.
Yes that would be and I would definitely go and see that bio pic of Badfinger it would be fantastic because it has all of the elements of drama and tragedy and success.
That manager shoulda been jailed...con man😡
Absolutely!!!
Badfinger was a very talented band. It's sad and tragic how their management screwed them over.
I find it astonishing that Paul McCartney and the other Beatles did not assist the members of Badfinger in their disputes with their Management; they had all of the Lawyers and Accoutants and they could have prevented the tradegy that resulted in the deaths of Pete Ham and Tom Evans .... Tragic !!!!
Beatles were busy suing themselves. They themselves were in absolute mess.
Was always hoping you would do a video on Badfinger, such a great band with great songs and such a tragic story. They deserve to be remembered.
Lot of requests for badfinger so the fans have spoken
I cry every time I read about these poor guys...and hope someone makes a movie of them.
The guy who ripped them off is nowt short of a murderer!!
r.i.p. Pete and Tom 😪💙
I think there should be a movie made with the life story of a bad finger because there’s so much drama in their lives and they are one of the best bands ever and I am one of the big fans of Badfinger music since they were signed to the Apple records label founded by my all-time favorite rock band the Beatles. even though some of the members of Badfinger are gone their music will still live on which is really just magnificent songs like maybe tomorrow no matter what day after day among others.
In the early 70s, I worked the door at a rock club in Ohio. Baby Blue was a standard for all the bar bands that came through. I'd almost forgotten about 'Baby Blue', but when it was recommended in my feed, man, the memories came flooding back.
Rock and roll true stories will always get to the heart of the matter.
Their story is absolutely heartbreaking. RIP to the departed members
My sister had a Badfinger album in our house when I was a kid and I listened to it a lot and always thought they were a really good band . I couldn't figure out why they weren't well known. Sweet, T Rex Badfinger and Humble Pie were the records I listened to the most in my sister's collection. This was the early 80s and most of my friends had never heard of any of those bands . They were all listening to Run DMC but I preferred 70s rock and roll
Same as me. In the late 1980s I was listening 1970s rock music. Way better than that 80s crap.
You should have mentioned that the Ham/Evans tune, 'Without You' was covered by Nilssonn and became a worldwide smash hit, robbed of what would have been millions in royalties for just that song, and seriously contributed to the suicides of Ham and Evans.
Nillson recorded that in what 1970?
Very few bands, especially back then, owned their own masters or even songs when they started out.
At best they owned a percentage.
Record companies flash some quick cash, then promise the world, while they are billing you for everything they act like is a service provided by them while you’re one of their artists. Then they hit you with, “well, actually after what you spent touring, partying, buying stuff and in the studio, you owe us money…”
It’s a shitty thing, but when they’re still making the same mistakes years later, what could anyone do?
They also seemed to keep signing shit even after they knew the manager was ripping them off years later.
@@CorbCorbin
The reason they were broke, and eventually took their own lives, was due to shitty, predatory management. I know that the music industry is a snake pit.
Actually, Harry Nilsson did the original which was later covered by Badfinger.
@@nick_vee
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT!
Ham and Evans wrote 'Without You'!
@@nick_vee
Badfinger recorded it BEFORE Nilssonn. Look it up on wiki.
It sucks that making music can be this complicated and soul destroying
Fucking capitalism and shit, record companies screwing over talent for pure profit sucks ass, thank god you can use the internet to release music nowadays
That is so sadly true.
@@Regulo1d Music industry is still like this sadly.
@@Regulo1d It's not capitalism. It's monopolies and the vampires at the top that control everything.
They should be in the Rocking Roll Hall of Fame❤️🎵☮️
They Certainly Should Be! What A Band! Loved Those Guitars! What A Tragic Ending.
Well like George Harrison said, "Apple was a reflection of how out of control John & Paul's egos were @ that time."
It's a shame that the Beatles wanting to take control of their finances and help out others is 'their egos out of control', but sadly they weren't businessmen and the pressure simply speeded up their break-up.
These guys really did capture the Beatles sound in their early years, before all the drama. To bad they had such poor management, because no one else ever filled that niche. They really could have been millionaires if they stayed together, under positive guidance & continued to produce big hits.
Honestly, filling that niche wasn't as good as how they grew into their own distinct sound and influenced the development of Power Pop and power ballads as genres.
Day after day is my favorite bad finger song
Well that's a relief to know. We were all wondering which BF song is your favorite. 😉
I like no matter what
❤❤
One of the most underrated bands of the 70s.Day After Day and Baby Blue are two of the most beautiful songs ever written. Poor Peter.
Day After Day
@@pinkfreud62 typing while walking! My fingers failed to translate what I meant.
Day after day is an awesome song.. when I was a kid. I thought that was the band Boston
@@kevin2400 Boston is an excellent band too, especially the self titled album!
Day after day Hass to be one of my favorite songs and what’s great about Badfinger is that they were one of the greatest musicians and songwriters ever and I love the fact that one of the former Beatles George Harrison plays with Pete ham on that wonderful guitar solo one day after day it gives me chills every time I hear it and they are one of the most greatest rock ‘n’ roll bands ever even though the band had some tragedies but their music will still live on especially with songs like without you day after day no matter what and come and get it.
Perhaps the unluckiest band ever seen. Such amazing pop songs.
Yes of course, "unlucky."
No, there is a long list.
Finally! A video where the use of the word "tragic" is applicable.
They were a great band. Such a mostly, sad story. Thank You for this Fine Post.
THANKS R N' R True Stories!
it's ridiculous to say i nearly openly cried when Badfinger just... disappeared, but i WAS let down immensely.
The Beatles were no more, and Badfingers' sound and talent was therapeutic to getting over that.
Then they too were gone, and way too soon.
I saw Badfinger in the70's and I can say that it was one of the best sounding bands in concert. They sounded just as good as if they were in the studio singing. Very good sound I'll never forget! I'm sorry they were treated the way they were. They deserved so much better. Thank you Badfinger! Peace!
Wish I got a chance to see them.
I really can't believe this band wasn't even more popular. They were amazing songwriters and performers. They sound like a continuation of the Beatles but not just some imitation or tribute. No they have their own amazing material and sound. So sad that 2 of them committed suicide due to the tragic circumstances that troubled the band.
Never call a band The New Beatles. Too much pressure!
I remember when The Knack was hyped that way also.
Didn't they say that about the Monkeys ?
@@Marty2011uk LOL yes! Dumb people did!
Or the New Nirvana. Or the saviors of rock.
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 And Duran Duran when they first started.
How tragic. I was about 13 when Come and Get it hit the airwaves. As a huge Beatles fan I was certain they'd got back together to record and start over. Grand Funk also got crewed over by management, all of which could have been avoided if they'd only read their contract which was set to expire in only 2 more months! CCR got bigtime screwed as well. John Fogarty couldn't even perform the music he'd written! Artists need good management (which is hard to find). Queen got screwed, but then hired Elton John's manager, and Night at the Opera was born. Some artists take total control of not only their art, but of marketing and finances as well. Maxfield Parrish is a good example of that. It's rare. Most artist do not have a head for business.
I love Badfinger.
Straight Up is one of my favorite albums of all time.
The ill-fated Wish You Were Here is also high on my list.
Pete was the heart and soul of the band. He seemed to sneeze out great songs which often burned with such emotional intensity.
Bad finger the great band of 70s
Thanks for making this video. As someone who discovered Badfinger in recent years (never seen Breaking Bad), I’d heard their story was tragic.
On a side note, if you’ve ever listensed to Guided by Voices, in my opinion Badfinger is clearly Robert Pollard’s single largest influence sound-wise.
I met Joey Molland a couple years ago at a concert, it was a fantastic show! What a shame, talk about a fall from grace! Love their music! I told him that, he was really cool, like you were shaking hands and taking to your neighbor. Great guitar player, great band, awesome music! I will definitely see them again if they come back my way. Just a real shame all the crazy that happened. These guys were superstars!
Went to see Badfinger at the Whisky on Sunset Blvd back in the day, and wow! were they ever good! We sat on the balcony right above them and I can still run the video and soundtrack of them that night in my head.
^..^~~
Makes you wonder what heights Badfinger could've risen to had they been afforded proper management. Musicians were easy prey back then, such a shame.
Historic duet (Here Comes the Sun) of Ham and Harrison in George and Ravi Shankar's 1971 Concert for Bangladesh (on YT).
They were such a great band with fantastic songs they had access to the best studio and equipment it's a tragic story and proof that even with hit singles and albums success isn't guaranteed their fourth record is a completely overlooked gem
Sure wish we could get vinyl reissues of their apple catalog
I think all the bad fingers catalog should be reissued as deluxe box sets with all the bonus tracks and then release stuff on cd and on vinyl it would be very fantastic to hear and if the Beatles catalog can be remixed and remastered it into a box that why not Bad finger in all the other songs should be released in a really big box that on CD and vinyl it would be great to hear the songs not just remastered but remix as well from the original master tapes.
It's just a damn shame that such an intelligent group of musicians had to go through such a tragic end I love every song they wrote and they will always remain one of my favorites
One of my favorite bands. Their music has gotten me through some tough times. May they RIP.
Had the Staight Up album on 8 track in high school. Great music
I "discovered" Badfinger by accident when I flipped the switch to FM. The line "I remember finding out about you..." always brings a smile to my face because the song was just freakin awesome. I had never heard anything like that at that time. It was the mid 70's - before classic rock was a thing - and I'm listening to the local college radio stations when they would put on an album and just drop the needle and let it play. Badfinger was always a go to. So sad to find out that they were screwed over and lead to the deaths of two gifted individuals. For The Love Of Money, indeed.
"I didn't know you'd think that I'd forget, or I'd regret"
Nice to see you do a video on a band that got its start in the 1960s.
Yesss.
I love Badfinger. Thanks for doing this story.
Such a sad story, and so infuriating!💔
Just a great band. With the right management and proper promotion I truly believe they would be more widely considered as among the best bands of the Seventies, then and now.
My head is spinning after watching this...
Very informative video. Thanks for posting.
Some of the members of the band were also featured in the story Music Artists Died Before Age 60,Pete Ham,Tom Evans & Mike Gibbins died at ages earlier or younger than 60 in 3 decade difference 1975-2005😢🤧
Heartbreaking. I loved this band as a preteen kid.
My top 16 Badfinger songs: 16.Love is gonna Come @ last 15.Dennis 14.Timeless 13.Suitcase 12.Apple of my eyes 11.I'll be the 1 10.Name of the game 9.Believe Me 8.Maybe tomorrow 7.Dear angie 6.Rock of all ages 5.Without U 4.Baby Blue 3.Come & Get it 2. Day after Day 1. No matter What
Bad finger you will live on forever I’m black and love all rock music was born in the sixties great music never forget you all lm listening right now
Sad story,but great music.One of my favorite bands.
"No Matter What" enters my head at least once a day even though I haven't heard it without deliberately choosing too in years. That's an impact.
Such a great song
Thanks for doing this, I love Badfinger. I saw them live in 1986 when I was just 17 at a bar called Blondie's in Detroit. Someone was quick to point out that they lost their two top guys equating them as George and Ringo still performing as the Beatles, but I enjoyed the concert none the less.
So glad to see you've made a Badfinger video, I've requested this one myself.
Heard it ages ago. Remember it, they, for a long time; played their favs. Over past three years.
Interested in composition,, arrangement, notation--very pleasantly and charmingly accommodating for gentleness while still maintaining light-hearted Gentlemenly sophistication.
These qualities are very enduring in both purpose of mind and social custom.
Manipulating a cord is key to pitch!
Tradition lives! Thank you for your this post.
So sad and tragic what happened 😢still listen to Badfinger and love their music to this day.
Sad story, great video.
Thanks
Oof, I can’t imagine the bad mojo you’d get being the reason a person committed suicide and have mentioned in their suicide note
I listen to Badfinger at least three times a week. Can't remember the last time I had a week without them. Thanks BF. Since I have first heard "Come and get it"{ '69}. Then saw "The Magic Christian".
Bad finger Forever
You do such a fantastic job. Thanks, these are so enjoyable.
I remember seeing these dudes at the concert for Bangladesh with George Harrison, and like a million other bands.
I had not heard of badfinger, but I heard a song from them on Spotify yesterday, and I thought it was great! And today this video appears in my recommended feed, thank you so much!
Thank you! I love this band, way more than I loved the Beatles & they were my top band until around 1969-70. I will always listen to their music until I'm gone.
Such a great band. Pete, Tom, Joey, and Mike were all great songwriters. The two Warner Bros albums get forgotten, but both are good, Wish You Were Here is a 10/10 album. So sad how things turned out for the band.
So very sad indeed!!😓💕 Both men had amazing voices and all those great Badfinger tunes. A tune called "Name Of The Game" blew me away & was never on AM radio in 1970's but I found it on a greatest hits Cassette in 1990's. I played cassette a gazillion times!! RIP two Lads, you deserved so much better!!!!😞💕
Thanks for this. Some mistakes, but a good compressed rundown. Warner Brothers album tentative title was "For Love or Money" not "For Love of Money" .
As I learned to play guitar, I figured out where the name "Badfinger" came from. Sometimes the damn things just won't do what you want them to!
When I hear Pete Hamm sing Day after Day I get goosebumps and a massive wave of depression at the same time. He had such a rich voice. So much promise there. They were good lads but they were young and needed guidance. Instead they got taken advantage of and stolen from to such an outrageous degree that sweet Pete Hamm hung himself. He was only 28 years old and he was destroyed by an unscrupulous business. I'm sorry for what happened to those boys. It's wrong on every level! ❤😢
Oh man, you are amazing. Baby Blue is one of my favorite songs of all time.
Some of the best Rock docs on YT
Badfinger is such an outstanding band. I've been a fan of them since the 70s
Rock and Roll is a vicious game. This is also a song by April Wine. Sad story with many sad endings.
Talk about a band being destroyed by crooks, bad management , naivete and tragedy. They never got good legal advice.
I've got a copy of "Come and get it ".
It's not a bad song to be fair.
Badfinger didn't get the break they deserved.
Just because they signed to Apple, people thought they would skyrocket!
The Beatles let them down on the financial, and publicity side of things.
Baby blue is a great power pop record. It’s incredibly tragic what happened to this band.
Paul McCartney lamented it was one of those situations where a phone call from him would have made a difference. Stan Posner who was managing Eric Carmen of Raspberry game, planned to package him with Badfinger a year after they left their greedy manager Stan Polly. George Harrison was beside himself wondering why no one told him about their financial woes. I’m sure George would’ve paid Pete’s mortgage. There were so many escapes, it’s sad. Pete wasn’t thinking straight. He was drunk. Straight Up was the #1 fan pick for album to DVD. If only he and Tommy knew their fans hadn’t forgotten them.
They should at least take pride in knowing that their music was integral to the weave of the lives growing up in the 70s.I was probably 7 when day after day came out and I adored it through the years. You live in all of us ❤
There should be a movie made about this band!
You are just a kid…8 years old and early 1970’s….you don’t know life yet but you are human. You hear songs on the radio so it’s voices and melody that move you….for me one of those I remember 1st time I heard it , I knew at 8 it was moving, that was Badfinger “Day after Day” for me….
This fabulous band is the most tragic in rock and roll..desperation and lies killed these guys!! Loved badfinger!! Underrated
You touched on a lot of subjects, but there is more and sadder pieces in this puzzle
Great story.
Thanks for no MIDROLL ADS!
This is great stuff. I love this channel.
My band Spectris opened for Joey Molland's Badfinger in 2004. Joey was incredibly frank and open about his experiences and we spoke for a couple of hours. I give him great respect for going through this and still keeping the music alive.
Damn, did RNRTS just go through a lawsuit? Only have seen the big disclaimer and credits on this video. But, seriously all of your vids are fantastic.
I felt the same sense of Irony about Rory Gallagher and Steve Marriot. So much more to give, gone before their time. Lost like tears in rain...
This story, totally kills me. All these years later. No time limit. My heart truly hurts.😢😢😢😢
I MET BASS PLAYER TOM FROM BADFINGER.. IN THE 70s AT THE FOUR SEASONS HOTEL..... LOVED HIM AND BADFINGER.....💛♥️💚💙💖🎸🎸🎸🎤🎤🎤🥁🥁🎶🎵⭐⭐⭐⭐
Heart wrenching story. My heart is so sad. Bless their hearts. Rest in peace brothers. You were loved ❤