Story I came across, a woman accused of plagiarising art. She was devastated, up until her art school professors showed her the work she was accused of plagiarising. It was, drum roll, her own work!
Joy Ang, they reverse image searched her art school work and found the copies on her own site but they just screenshot the google search and didn't click on it to see the source. After bringing her to tears they were very embarrassed when she pointed this out.
I've had that happen. I submitted some examples of previous writing, and they came up with my own writing blog (myspace). Luckily it wasn't any of my published work, since I did ghost writing and my name wasn't on a bunch of stuff. I'd have had to get the publisher to send a letter.
Had similar happen to me, by other photographers claiming my pics as theirs. I shot them down pretty hard when i pulled the original exif serial out of the image, showing it came from my camera, and had their site taken down for infringement and got some fees for it as well, as they were selling the pictures. Their clients weren't too happy about him, as they didn't own the rights to use the images, and that would cause issues for them as it gone into print etc. I didn't have a grudge with the clients who had acted in good faith, so cut them a good deal and had them go after the other guy.
@@JasonKaler well some creators are stubborn, others are on rumble or elsewhere and make money with patreon. this yt mess has been going on for years and people seem to love it. constant threats of getting the channel deleted, ads placed on videos against their will, problems with getting the money. youtube creators just love the abuse, else they would just make 3min videos telling the viewers where to watch the real stuff.
@@JasonKaler They should pay me to watch some of these ridiculous videos. I pay to block their ads because I am not buying the crap they are selling anyway! The time I save not watching the ads is well worth the cost.
@@JasonKalernot true. Why do you think TH-cam is going so far to get people to stop using it? It's affecting their profit margin. They don't give two shits about the creators on here, it's all about their bottom line. If you think otherwise, I'm sorry.
But they appear to LOVE AI generated videos about celebrities and animal welfare, that generate loads of clicks and likes, even though the content is absolute garbage. Sometimes the 'animal welfare' ones appear to be people doing horrible things to cute animals, just so they can film themselves 'rescuing' them, for money. The whole thing is SO messed up, with no intelligent or principled humans at the helm, it's an increasingly crazy dystopia. 😕
TH-cam is becoming a joke. First class music tutorials are blocked but "reaction" videos are fine. The ones where some bloke plays a video of someone else's work in it's entirety and adds a small frame in the corner of his face nodding or grimacing. It adds nothing to the original content and is just a way for lazy grifters to parasite of others. Keep up the great work Fil, this is the best music channel by a mile.
Yes, indeed! TH-cam will need to tweak and evolve to delineate between tutorial analyzations and simply re-playing copyrighted music for others' listening enjoyment. Fil is teaching viewers; he's not just playing and singing other artist's songs for our listening pleasure.
This. So many make a living on reaction videos alone (aka not their original content) but for some reason TH-cam is ok with that. But original creators are constantly facing issues with TH-cam, I see this all the time. I basically only follow creative arts channels and it's absurd how often many creators have this happen to them.
This reminds me of a bit by a comedian whose name I can't recall, who says, "I just copyrighted E flat. Now whenever that note gets played, I get a royalty! And it gets better - when any other note is played, I get royalties for that too, because they're just transposing my song!" Fred
Fake copyright scams are a blight on content creators, educators, reviewers - and the public. All the money goes to scam companies that don't deserve it. Its a disgrace.
Remember content producers are YTs product, not their customer. The viewer is their customer. From their standpoint, it would be like McDonalds caring about what the hamburger thinks. As a YT customer, I really think they need to fix their problems and treat content providers fairly. This will improve the content for us viewers.
Yes, and the Google behind it is too much obsessed with copyright to the extent that it has become an obstacle against independent content creators and against creativity in general.
It could very well be, although Synonyms starting with letter I: idiot inane irresponsible imbecile inane inept irrational irrational Insentient ignorant injudicious Would equally apply
So many examples where no copyright is violated: a piano teacher showing how to arpeggiate chords, a trombonist showing what double-tonguing is like, a snare drum player demonstrating a roll, ...
Get in touch with Elizabeth from Charismatic Voice. She is a reactor, and she and her team are well versed in dealing with the legal side of copyright with TH-cam. She did an extended interview with Peter Barber where she said that she helps other creators, especially reactors and musicians, wrangle with TH-cam on the copyright blocks to get them removed. If I understood her correctly, she and her team work with the creator to help them learn what arguments are successful. Maybe she can help.
Tbh a bigger question is why should content creator jump through hoops of bureaucratic gymnastics if all he wants is to not have a video of him playing something which is clearly not a coherent song get copyrighted.
@@JediMage I agree, but how much of that system is run by bots and other forms of AI? If he can get the right formula for getting through to a real human, he might have better success with the system. It's a completely asinine aggravation no creator with integrity deserves to go though, but alas, the world we live in....
An appalling amount of pure ignorance and bullying by TH-cam. Like so many other "big deal" people and organizations, they think they are above caring, criticism, or even the law.
It's a dictatorship here. I've had perfectly innocuous comments removed for "violating community guidelines". Whenever this happens, I get a little pop-up message warning me that if I "continue to leave messages like this", etc, except that it never actually highlights the offending message. So I'm not sure how TH-cam expects me to stop posting "messages like this" when I don't even know what the "this" in question even is. There's something very Kafkaeseque about how TH-cam operates, and I'm thinking "The Trial" in particular.
This reminds me of SoundCloud removing MY song (that is not a cover) for copyright infringement. I recorded it in the 80s, and I am the only person to ever have recorded it, and they refuse to answer my messages!!
@@vanessafletcher6710 , You’re right. I lost my original account. They won’t give it back because of 2 factor authentication. After months of frustration, I gave YT (Google), my current and only valid phone number. Their bots won’t even let me erase the obsolete landline and cell phone numbers and input the 6 year old existing one. @ditzygypsy, I hope you have a hard copy/master tape.
No, sorry, it isn't. It's only fair use if the complete clip you used is needed to get your point across. Like for example, if you're commenting on an artist's appearance and use a clip from their music video, it's not fair use, because you could have gotten your point across with a still image from that music video. A large number of "fair use" claims on youtube are actually factually wrong.
youtube is in the business of making money. when enforcing bogus copywrite makes them money they will, when allowing people to blatantly steal content makes them money they will. and when it neither makes or looses them money, they won't really care what they do. That will always be the case. The only way to change their behaviour is to change what makes and looses them money. But us average folks have very little influence over that. Only big companies and creators or governments have that kind of power
Always has been. You've never been able to get hold of a human to review anything, unless you're a really big name with a personal liaison at TH-cam. It is extremely frustrating.
@@steveperson5686 Considering we're talking about a corporation here, it's big brother capitalism. When capitalists own the means of production, everyone is beholden to them ,even gocernments.
An alternative site would likely face the same issues (though more competition could be beneficial). Section 230, which protects U.S. websites from liability for user-generated content, does not shield them from intellectual property claims. Therefore, websites need measures to avoid lawsuits. False positives likely have negligible consequences, and the manpower required to manually review every flagged piece of content would be astronomical.
I got a copyright claim for my own performance of an operatic aria (with a live chamber ensemble) composed by someone who's been dead for over 200 years!! It's nuts!! Really sorry, you're going through this.
Oh, those aren't auto-claims. Other companies put up public domain performances and then copyright claim anyone that puts up their own performances, because if TH-cam sees that they have an older version of the performance, they won't support you in a copyright claim. Then the accuser is the one who decides whether or not to rescind the copyright claim. That's the best part. TH-cam doesn't decide how this ends. The company that made the accusation is the judge and jury.
@@JediKnyghtewasn't Gaudete was it? I did a brass band arrangement using a legit version of Sibelous and had an email to tell me that the copyright was still in effect (some 500 years after it was originally written), then O Store Gud aka How Great Thou Art, another brass band arrangement of a 15th century Swedish folk song, it was removed within minutes with a warning that if I continue to 'plagiarise' I'd have my page taken down 😂
Facebook deleted my wedding video for copyright. I recorded it myself on my phone using a tripod. No professional photographer involved. Can't make this stuff up.
TH-cam is so weird - honestly, this is only going to get worse because AI does so many of these tasks. So many channels ripping off entire movies - but when I posted videos during the pandemic for my university classes (which I teach) using clips from the films we were studying, clips under 3 min each, all my videos were blocked based on copyright. I ended up doing a Powerpoint recorded show and embedding the clips, but students had a lot of problems with those - whereas TH-cam would have been accessible for all students. Music teachers I know had the same problems, but with music clips instead of film (we have a good music program focusing on strings).
Please You tube, find a better, more fair way of monitoring these things! This guy does not deserve to be blocked in his content. He is giving a great service and is very conscious of copyright!
they don't. they handed it off to the claimant long ago, short of an actual DMCA filing. and since most of the world doesn't involve the DMCA.. well, there you go.
Sometimes I edit out the copyright footage myself, then reupload it as a new video, but it then detects a different area altogether as copyrighted. The system is either broken, or being manipulated
they not going to stop until creators start lawsuits for malicious negligence for improper tagging, destruction of private property (deleting videos) violations of free speech and suppression of creative freedom as well as anti-trust. they only understand one thing. is the lawsuit going to cost more than they budgeted for in acceptable losses?
They completely demonetized Canadian Stud Muffins channel for all kind of BS. We really need to find another platform for original content providers, YT is out of control.
Which platforms? Facebook and Instagram are unacceptable. Patreon is doable, but I think they limit storage/charge more for storage. Discord might be workable for some features. Zefrank1 made a post about TH-cam last year, when the new CEO started pushing shorts, and punishing long form creators. We need something completely new.
Yes. I'm starting to get some of my comments blocked. Not swearing, no racism, no nasty calling names. The last comment I got block was someone asked what AARO was, an overseeing part of the government containing sightings of UAPs by military personnel. Which is pretty much what I said. Let's see if this gets blocked also.
@@tootz1950 Yes, and I can only sympathise - I'm being blocked too, increasingly often. Like you, I don't go in for rudeness, nasty name-calling, racism or any other-ism or -phobia, but always try and present reasoned arguments, sometimes on political controversies. I'm sure my views may not always be immediately understandable and might well annoy some people, but I do always endeavour to express myself respectfully. I see others being appalling in many of the above ways without being blocked, but for some reason, mine are. There's not way of knowing why. I don't usually post on the usual trigger subjects like pandemic conspiracies, official and unofficially sanctioned remedies, etc. I call people by their proper names, including 'Mr' or 'Ms' and I try to retain a sense of humour and compassion, even when strongly disagreeing with someone. Sometimes I'll spend quite a bit of time making sure my arguments are reasonable and clearly expressed, and my tone non-nasty. I just don't understand how YT's weird monitoring system works or what I can do about it. They even once accused me of running a scam, after I'd reported a lot of scams to them, and banned me for a day. They did give me the opportunity to comment, so I did, and asked them to just tell me which posts/ comments had given them this impression, but I never heard back from them - no explanation at all. It's just bizarre, and increasingly disheartening.
You are delusional if you dont understand that they are all the same. Or at least they will be. If youtube starts to fall and somewhere else takes over, you will get the same result in the end. ALL platforms would censor you during COVID if you had the wrong opinion, or said the wrong theory about COVID.
@@Kat-I-am3333was George Harrison part of the Chifftons? I must have missed that. Because what's significant about the issue with Fogarty is that he was the main songwriter and vocalist of CCR. He was being accused of stealing from himself. Would your example be about Harrison stealing from himself?
TH-cam has become totally beserk. Your videos are educational (and so enjoyable) and your video greatly assist others who watch and try to make their guitar skills better. Which can only be a good thing!
@Andy_Panda, do you really expect computer algorithms to be able to differentiate someone mentioning a song and using the song, but not reviewing it or critiquing it, as opposed to someone talking about a song & playing a song in a review video. Algorithms are digital! Nothing is "listening" as how we hear it. When the songs recognition apps are 100% correct all the time, get back to me with your comment; it'll be more acceptable consideration, then. [I'm not defending the YT systems, dislike it as much as anyone, & been a victim of it long ago, but computers aren't really doing Artificial Intelligence yet. AI is just a fancy way of saying millions of gigs more is used in data-sets, to get results. Everything, even how Chat GPT auto writes, is still programmed by people].
Yes absolutely. They can analyze and correct script and audio now, so it's an easy go to consider the entirety of the video using the content in question. Or, stop making music about money. It has killed it quite dead already@@CityBeatEntertainme5
I agree. I can see no reason whatsoever why some of my comments have been deleted. What’s bizarre is I will get notifications in email saying that my comment was responded to, but the comment is gone. No sense at all.
So let's get this straight. A guitarist playing his guitar is a copyright violation? OK, could a dancer dancing be a copyright violation? What about a juggler juggling? Clowns clowning? TH-cam mods modding?
You should send this video to the TH-cam censors/copywright police; there have got to be some live people behind the algorithms and AI operations. You have perfectly explained the problem. Your analogy to your voice demos is definitive.
Those live people are highly paid managers that don’t give a damn about any individual human, or any harm done to them by their arbitrary & capricious tools.
They are not even remotely similar. The automakers have a profit incentive to make an algorithm that makes correct decisions. TH-cam has a profit incentive to make an algorithm that makes incorrect decisions in favor of the music rights organization every time. It's the same thing they've been doing for years.
Detecting copyright and recognising objects are two very different things. The only overlap is that they both have video data. But their end-task is vastly different. It's like saying that a tea kettle and coffe maker are identical.
At the same time, they allow for trolls to claim the rights to officially uploaded music videos. Some tiny company makes an indifferent cover of a song, claims the original version is a cover of their version and takes the money. Then, neither TH-cam nor the original labels seem to care.
I look forward to the day when there’s a lot of competition for TH-cam from other streaming services. They are now trying to claim copyright with single notes. Unbelievable.
Tell TH-cam channel to mind it's own business. You are the only reason we are watching these videos in the first place. You tell us what we want to know about the music and the industry. And we love to watch you while you are talking to us about them 🎉🎉🎉🎉.Fil you are the best. Rock ❤❤🎉🎉🎉
The robot generated copyright claims on TH-cam are truly insane. I put up a video about a drums enhancement plugin and used few drums tracks that were generated using GarageBand simulated drummers. One of these tracks got a copyright claim on it and when I checked the song they claimed had copyright on it the song used exactly the same GarageBand drummer part at the start. I challenged the claim pointing out Apple's terms of use and thankfully the copyright claim was removed.
It's nuts that TH-cam loses its head over content that is promoting the artists in question. Surely the artists would be pleased to have their techniques celebrated!
It's not so nuts when you realize it's all automated for the benefit corporations and TH-cam bows to corporations. Validating the legitimacy of claims would take human interaction and that would cost money.
Very often these are auto generated by computer analysis , and do not involve a human review. Nothing like getting your unique demonstrations triggering copyright blocks. 🙃
There's no human review involved whatsoever. Also, you can try your hardest to initiate a human interaction with someone from TH-cam via email, or through TH-cam's own 'help' channels, etc, etc, and you will never get to speak to an actual human being about your problem. I feel for Phil here because he literally has no way of resolving his issue since there is no human TH-cam representative who will to listen to or investigate the problems he is experiencing.
@@jskit92380 It's literally impossible. They'd have to employ and train hundreds of thousands to do this work. I'm not defending YT -- I have had videos and my entire channel shut down, wrongly, multiple times. It just is what it is.
So frustrating, whenever I try the Contact me of a company you end up with a bot who doesn’t answer questions just has generic queries then asks if you find it helpful . No I don’t. You just go round in circles. Poor Fil
@@kristymac3236 I did customer support for EOD robotics for 8 years. US military and first responder. Required to solve their peoblems then and there even if a bomb was live and present. Unheard of today. Glad to have done it, A bit drunk at the moment. Happy Birthday USA.
This reminds me of a chapter in the book Catch 22 where the main guy is assigned to censoring the mail and so to keep it from getting boring he decides to strike out every third word or so. There's no real thought put into it; it's just censorship.
TH-cam has become as despicable as Windows 11,which I don't want to upgrade to. There are alternatives for YT and we need to start uploading our stuff out of here.
I got one for a live video of me playing a bugle doing the last post. They claimed it was a recording made by someone else..... I won that battle eventually but lost on another where TH-cam identified my band playing the Australian National Anthem as a breach of copyright.. insane
TH-cam Algorithm is a real pain in the ass! I'm totally sick of the control freaks running social media sites. And in your case this BS is unexpectable.
WOW...when I saw the title of the video I had to do a doubletake!! This is complete insanity!! I'm really sorry that you're having to deal with such nonsense FIL...it's got to be maddening. SOOO.....THANKS ALL THE MORE for everything you do to share your vast knowledge with everybody here! I definitely am grateful, because I learn something new with each video!!
Oof. As a software engineer, my first thought is that the false positives (and I think that's what these are) are probably rather specific to the electric guitar. It's sound is incredibly distinct from any other sounds and instruments, but it's waveform is so pure that it may be indistinguishable (at least within the tolerances of the copyright detecting algorithms) from several other times that electric guitars have played the same notes. That's different than say, with a violin. Every violin has a noticeably different composition of sub frequencies. If the same musician played the same note perfectly on two different violins, the recordings would be different enough to recognize that neither is a copy of the other.
i smell a lawsuit against YT. and SERIOUSLY think you should contact a copyright attorney. (i worked in the legal field for 17 years, and think you have a very strong case here.)
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 Settlements frequently include legal fees including damages. He does NOT have the right to his own stuff because as you have seen, TH-cam is denying him that.
If a chord or progression could be copywrited Bach's and Beethoven's heirs would be very wealthy indeed and Pachelbel would be able to strike nearly every pop song made since the 1950s because they are nearly all 1, 3, 4, and 5 chords from the root key.
We are at this point, Rick Beato ponted this once out, they start to copyright basic chord progressions and perhaps tomorrow a single note. Not YT but the music industry and finally they stand behind this stiffness of YT, because you know since 50 years they claim "we could have earned ### billions more, if not... (cassette, cd, and-so-on)". That's how sick beanscounters think. *It's not that they have a loss but they could have earned more based on their own prognosis and than they claim this difference as a loss in profit.* This and other sick ideas they teach in our businessschools - others learn a craft.
@@Gernot66 I could not agree more. I love Huey Lewis but was also kinda sad that he won a suit against the song Ghostbusters for plagiarizing I want a new drug. While if your looking for similarities you can find them I think it was an overreach, and such cases are far too common for my liking. Before someone comments this, I am ware that Huey Lewis was approached and declined to write songs for Ghostbusters but again IMHO Ghostbusters was an original work by Ray Parker Jr. It goes to show that a few chords in common and maybe some similarities to the beat and guitar riff is all it takes. Given that standard nearly any two songs could be compared to look for commonality and it can be found in a scale of only 13 notes and the circle of 5th being a pretty dominant way to create a progression.
@@larrybremer4930 Which leads to such as a by me rearranged midi of a triosonata by Bach was once claimed as an instrumental part of a to me unknown pop band. Poor Johann Sebastian. It's really fucked up. I often guess that the music will work for a clip just to to have another copyright claim for a noise (typically soundtracker modules from the '90s which i often use), really a noise just a beam which could be any beam you create with a parametrical synthesizer and it was claimed as copyrighted because a similar beam sfx was used in i don't know which synth-track, yes it was about 10 seconds long but that is still a single sfx even if it would last a minute or whatever would match the lead-in to a track. 🤦♂. Next time someone records a wind noise created on a Moog and because it matches "wish you where here" in duration it's copyrighted. (my channel fortunately isn't monetized, btw it's a new one i started because i was very frustrated after the adblocker blocking because the warning still appeared a month later after i removed my adblocker). If we extend this idea tomorrow certain keyword phrases to program an AI generated track can be copyrighted. I mean if i can copyright the setup for a parametrical or analogue synthesizer? Factually this all can't be copyrighted but you have to bring the proof to refute the claim, which sometimes really works but usually not, it's still their matter to accept the refute neither that they have to proof their claim or refusing of a refuted claim. The prosecutor is an algorithm, and it doesn't stops searching until it finds a pimple because there is always a pimple to find if you dig deep enough. So we have to live with the fact that "Redemption Song" electrified version with the Waylers isn't Bob Marley at all, it happened to me quite long ago. Some artificial character, i searched for the Single and it's the only one of this "Artist" played by and copyrighted to xy but none of what would be known to my as pseudonym for Lee Perry. For claiming twice (i refuted the refuse) that it is Bob Marley i was fined with a cancelling of my channel for half a year. I guess third time you receive this penalty you will be removed completly. *You can try to refute it once but never refute it twice!* Since there is no real way for you to bring evidence except to send them the master reel. A copyright claim for a bootleg and claiming the bootleg is the original🤦♂ oh yeah! Mindless machine. --- I have an unregistered HMV record of Rudolf Serkin playing Beethoven, i guess in the '20s and '30s he was somewhat popular in Europe ('33 he left Berlin). However, i asked the HMV archive about this record set, it's not registered and i guess it's probably a radio cut since each of the tracks i found on other records of this time by a search in the web. Informations might have get lost for this Album, the labels have a handwritten 14 7 25 on it which is probably the date of filing. The condition is astonishing good almost like never played apart from a small pressing failure on one side of the three record set. I wonder already what happens if i upload it once.
@@larrybremer4930 There is a worse example. Blurred Lines was considered a copyright violation for having a similar drum beat to a Marvin Gaye song. At lease Ed Sheeran successfully defended the claims against him.
@@SirStumblesALot Exactly. Copyright law and treaties have run amok and they are widely unenforceable on today's internet without automated pattern recognition and ai. This is why TH-cam is desperate and has to use automated detection systems. They are liable for infringements on their platform but detecting infringements in a hundred million videos is really hard. The fundamental problem isn't TH-cam. The problem is copyright law itself and the way it has been lobbied to mostly serve huge corporations and asset owners.
I have never had anything to do with music in my life, cannot play an instrument or sing, and yet I absolutely adore this channel and the way fil explains stuff. It's by far the best thing I've ever seen, just to watch how my favourite bands perform their miracles. PLEASE don't give up. You Tube needs review, or we all need an alternative platform.
You do a fabulous job breaking down these songs and I am not a musician but love listening to you explain things to the audience. Take it on like David and Goliath - one video at a time!!!
@@sister_bertrille911not at all. Too AI heavy which also lets you know how little they pay people or how job availabilities are more or less nonexistent.
Make sure you have a back up plan like Rumble and your own website. (Leave your videos up...If TH-cam ever get's whacked in court, your video will lose it's copyright strike - not sure how that affects monetization)
1. You change nothing; 2. You dispute the claim, providing TH-cam and the claimant your contact info; and 3. Unless the person making the claim proves to TH-cam that they are actually suing you in a real court, the claim expires. Hint: they are not going to sue you because that would involve a real breathing lawyer (not a bot) that would cost them money and everything you do is obviously fair use so any competent copyright attorney will tell them they are going to lose 100% of the time and if you are in UK that will cost them more money because they will have to pay your legal expenses as well (something they don't have to worry about in the US).
Fil you are one the most respectful channel regarding copywrite. And it's definitely a shame. A video when you play guitar and explain technic, who'll be worth it ( and I don't play guitar) .
Man alive! If it's not one thing, it's another, isn't it? TH-cam has the problems, not you! So stay strong and positive, we have your back! Remember, this too shall pass!
It's amazing how much I have learned from the short time I have been watching your videos. My appreciation for all types of music has risen dramatically as I have watched your appreciation for various genres of music. It is a shame that TH-cam lacks appreciation for your skill/art/genius in teaching novices like me about music that they such a nonsensical interpretation of fair use to keep you from fully sharing your insights.
Hi Fil, This is an unfortunate situation with TH-cam. I’m sure you will sort out the best way to deal with it. It’s not right considering how much, thought, time and effort you put into your videos. But as you always say… we will push forward and see what happens… Debbie☮️
They love this system. The worse AI gets, the more it finds copyright infringement. And they keep playing ads, but don't have to pay creators. A total win for them.
What Fil said about AI is indeed the problem. The sheer volume of data that is uploaded to this platform every day, cannot possibly be monitored by a human being. Algo's have been created to "do" that job, but as we can see, they don't have any judgement. This is why people always say to challenge copyright claims, as the feedback might be considered by an actual person, so has a much better chance of being OK. Still does not always work, but has a good chance.
😂😂😂 amazing! This is a typical example of what happens when you let AI making censoring choices. Believe you have cause for action against Google on this one 👍
If anybody is claiming ownership of Fil playing, then they're technically committing copyright infringement themselves (ironically). So yes, he has grounds to pursue legal action, but is it worth it?
TH-cam isn't claiming anything... Anyone (including scammers) can claim whatever they want on YT and YT will stay out of it because that is how copyright law is written, they must take every claim and not even bother to find out if it is legitimate, unfortunately the only way to properly resolve it is to do a counterclaim and most likely go to court over it...
You have an excellent, enlightening, interesting channel. Must be the music biz narcissist's losing attention. Thanks for the great analysis. Rock on!!!
Kudos! I agree your use of Bowie and others was fair use. "Doesn't sound like David Bowie singing." Well, David does have an incredible voice - but here, I laughing while rolling on floor must admit you're darned right."
How deflating. Fil is doing us a service with these musical explanations and his style of video is unique. Probably too unique for a computer to grasp.
Fil, this is definitely craziness! I can't even wrap my mind around this! I'm sure you will get it sorted out! You have the patience of a saint and the persistance of an otherworldly being therefore I bet you will get this ridiculous situation taken care of ! 💜
A modern version of: "You can't argue with The Man, The Man don't care to understand." The modern difference is there is no man...the algorithm don't care to understand. Idiocracy.
Fil, there is no reason why this should happen. I feel you should fight the good fight, and always continue to give your audience what they want which is great content from YOU. !!!
Oh my! That is hysterical..and hysteria on YT's part. I can't imagine whats going on...yah yah..algorithms. My suggestion would be..please ...navigate around all this BS. You are a great asset to real music and music education. We will be here for you... "a bit of a shame" at about 7 min mark. You are a good soul.
Ahh man that sucks!!! TH-cam are now the guardians of original content huh🤣 What a F'n JOKE❗ I think you're awesome, informative, fair, incredibly educated, talented & possess the insight to produce an unequalled level of excellence imparting your critical analysis etc etc etc 😁👩🎤
Is there still the option to show TH-cam that they've claimed a false positive? Of course it would require a human being to review it and I'm not so sure there are any thinking humans at the company anymore.
Story I came across, a woman accused of plagiarising art.
She was devastated, up until her art school professors showed her the work she was accused of plagiarising.
It was, drum roll, her own work!
Joy Ang, they reverse image searched her art school work and found the copies on her own site but they just screenshot the google search and didn't click on it to see the source. After bringing her to tears they were very embarrassed when she pointed this out.
@@thenecessaryevil2634I hope she sued them for causing such distress.
@@thenecessaryevil2634 The real question is, were they embarrassed enough to start checking sources from now on? Guess we'll find later.
I've had that happen. I submitted some examples of previous writing, and they came up with my own writing blog (myspace). Luckily it wasn't any of my published work, since I did ghost writing and my name wasn't on a bunch of stuff. I'd have had to get the publisher to send a letter.
Had similar happen to me, by other photographers claiming my pics as theirs. I shot them down pretty hard when i pulled the original exif serial out of the image, showing it came from my camera, and had their site taken down for infringement and got some fees for it as well, as they were selling the pictures.
Their clients weren't too happy about him, as they didn't own the rights to use the images, and that would cause issues for them as it gone into print etc.
I didn't have a grudge with the clients who had acted in good faith, so cut them a good deal and had them go after the other guy.
It's why i have zero respect for TH-cam's rules and I'm never ever turning off my ad blocker.
@@JasonKaler well some creators are stubborn, others are on rumble or elsewhere and make money with patreon. this yt mess has been going on for years and people seem to love it. constant threats of getting the channel deleted, ads placed on videos against their will, problems with getting the money. youtube creators just love the abuse, else they would just make 3min videos telling the viewers where to watch the real stuff.
@@JasonKaler They should pay me to watch some of these ridiculous videos. I pay to block their ads because I am not buying the crap they are selling anyway! The time I save not watching the ads is well worth the cost.
@@JasonKalernot true. Why do you think TH-cam is going so far to get people to stop using it? It's affecting their profit margin. They don't give two shits about the creators on here, it's all about their bottom line. If you think otherwise, I'm sorry.
@@JasonKaler Maybe content makers shouldn't put their eggs in one basket. Patreon exists for a reason.
@@JasonKaler Too many of the one I watch don't get paid anyway. Which is why they accept sponsorship and external donation platforms.
TH-cam HATES independent content producers.
But they appear to LOVE AI generated videos about celebrities and animal welfare, that generate loads of clicks and likes, even though the content is absolute garbage. Sometimes the 'animal welfare' ones appear to be people doing horrible things to cute animals, just so they can film themselves 'rescuing' them, for money.
The whole thing is SO messed up, with no intelligent or principled humans at the helm, it's an increasingly crazy dystopia. 😕
@@papercup2517 YT certainly loves any clickbait content with bad rumors about celebrities.
@@papercup2517 They also love videos by young “ladies” wearing little or nothing. But real content is anathema to the people in charge of TH-cam.
Has ever since google bought the place
Exactly what you should expect from a monopoly.
TH-cam is becoming a joke. First class music tutorials are blocked but "reaction" videos are fine. The ones where some bloke plays a video of someone else's work in it's entirety and adds a small frame in the corner of his face nodding or grimacing. It adds nothing to the original content and is just a way for lazy grifters to parasite of others. Keep up the great work Fil, this is the best music channel by a mile.
Yes, indeed! TH-cam will need to tweak and evolve to delineate between tutorial analyzations and simply re-playing copyrighted music for others' listening enjoyment. Fil is teaching viewers; he's not just playing and singing other artist's songs for our listening pleasure.
This. So many make a living on reaction videos alone (aka not their original content) but for some reason TH-cam is ok with that. But original creators are constantly facing issues with TH-cam, I see this all the time. I basically only follow creative arts channels and it's absurd how often many creators have this happen to them.
HAS BECOME
Just call it "guitar tutor reacts" Done.
I once posted a vid of our band doing a cover of metal classic *_Paranoid_* , got a copyright infringement claim of melody FROSTY THE SNOWMAN
This reminds me of a bit by a comedian whose name I can't recall, who says,
"I just copyrighted E flat. Now whenever that note gets played, I get a royalty! And it gets better - when any other note is played, I get royalties for that too, because they're just transposing my song!"
Fred
at this point someone should really do it just so youtube fixes this mess.
Copyright rush E @@Tetracera.
Fake copyright scams are a blight on content creators, educators, reviewers - and the public. All the money goes to scam companies that don't deserve it. Its a disgrace.
Right, and even if you win the dispute you've lost all that initial revenue.
Exactly correct.
I had a video of mine get claimed.(they claimed the music but they were neither the real owner nor the music composer, who did get upset by it)
They are also illegal.
The worst thing is that TH-cam has zero customer service.
Remember content producers are YTs product, not their customer. The viewer is their customer. From their standpoint, it would be like McDonalds caring about what the hamburger thinks. As a YT customer, I really think they need to fix their problems and treat content providers fairly. This will improve the content for us viewers.
Totally agree with this. Its not just pathetic. Its non existent
Yes, and the Google behind it is too much obsessed with copyright to the extent that it has become an obstacle against independent content creators and against creativity in general.
I know!! They're just an enigma!! It's an algorithm !!
@@Planet-of-the-Gibbonswell said mate!!!
This is ridiculous. TH-cam harassment. 😡
Yep, I as well consider this harassment.
It is the highest time for a Euro-TH-cam.
AI is why you just got block and it’s going to get worse.
@@Renshen1957shouldn’t that be AU - “Artificial Unintelligence”?
It could very well be, although Synonyms starting with letter I:
idiot
inane
irresponsible
imbecile
inane
inept
irrational
irrational
Insentient
ignorant
injudicious
Would equally apply
The Golden Age of Salieris!
So many examples where no copyright is violated: a piano teacher showing how to arpeggiate chords, a trombonist showing what double-tonguing is like, a snare drum player demonstrating a roll, ...
Get in touch with Elizabeth from Charismatic Voice. She is a reactor, and she and her team are well versed in dealing with the legal side of copyright with TH-cam. She did an extended interview with Peter Barber where she said that she helps other creators, especially reactors and musicians, wrangle with TH-cam on the copyright blocks to get them removed. If I understood her correctly, she and her team work with the creator to help them learn what arguments are successful. Maybe she can help.
She is good, watched a fair bit of her content.
A reactor and a world class opera singer! Good to know she’s as kind in the real world to other content creators as she seems on her videos.
Tbh a bigger question is why should content creator jump through hoops of bureaucratic gymnastics if all he wants is to not have a video of him playing something which is clearly not a coherent song get copyrighted.
@@JediMage I agree, but how much of that system is run by bots and other forms of AI? If he can get the right formula for getting through to a real human, he might have better success with the system. It's a completely asinine aggravation no creator with integrity deserves to go though, but alas, the world we live in....
@@JayCamp4It's run by bots, and lazy employees who don't want to look through it, unless noise is made.
An appalling amount of pure ignorance and bullying by TH-cam. Like so many other "big deal" people and organizations, they think they are above caring, criticism, or even the law.
They are above those things, unfortunately 😢
It's a dictatorship here. I've had perfectly innocuous comments removed for "violating community guidelines". Whenever this happens, I get a little pop-up message warning me that if I "continue to leave messages like this", etc, except that it never actually highlights the offending message. So I'm not sure how TH-cam expects me to stop posting "messages like this" when I don't even know what the "this" in question even is. There's something very Kafkaeseque about how TH-cam operates, and I'm thinking "The Trial" in particular.
It's their platform. Stop using it and stop watching it.
@@Mac.rodose What a wus.
This reminds me of SoundCloud removing MY song (that is not a cover) for copyright infringement. I recorded it in the 80s, and I am the only person to ever have recorded it, and they refuse to answer my messages!!
Wow.
Welcome to the corporate controlled world. Its all about the pennies
Cmon, really?
It's AI. It's All AI. That Is All. And You Can'T Talk To Ai. Sorry.
@@vanessafletcher6710 ,
You’re right. I lost my original account. They won’t give it back because of 2 factor authentication. After months of frustration, I gave YT (Google), my current and only valid phone number. Their bots won’t even let me erase the obsolete landline and cell phone numbers and input the 6 year old existing one.
@ditzygypsy, I hope you have a hard copy/master tape.
YT is going nuts. If it’s only a segment of a copyrighted material, accompanied by a tutorial it’s 100% *fair use* . Period
No, sorry, it isn't. It's only fair use if the complete clip you used is needed to get your point across. Like for example, if you're commenting on an artist's appearance and use a clip from their music video, it's not fair use, because you could have gotten your point across with a still image from that music video. A large number of "fair use" claims on youtube are actually factually wrong.
Educational use of copywrited material is always fair use.
@@cathleenc6943 Again, no, sorry, it isn't. Only if that material is needed for the educational purpose.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodopretty sure a tutorial is classified as a fair use.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodoa tutorial is educational in nature cause it’s showing people how to do stuff!
YT changes the goalposts like the weather.
YT changes the weather?
youtube is in the business of making money. when enforcing bogus copywrite makes them money they will, when allowing people to blatantly steal content makes them money they will. and when it neither makes or looses them money, they won't really care what they do. That will always be the case. The only way to change their behaviour is to change what makes and looses them money. But us average folks have very little influence over that. Only big companies and creators or governments have that kind of power
@@benjamingaster Within the YT ecosystem, yes.
So no humans work at google anymore and the robot's decision is final? That's a shame.
Always has been. You've never been able to get hold of a human to review anything, unless you're a really big name with a personal liaison at TH-cam. It is extremely frustrating.
Thats how big brother government works.
Google pretty much do not have costumer support, you only speak with robots that send you in circles for eternity...
@@steveperson5686 Considering we're talking about a corporation here, it's big brother capitalism. When capitalists own the means of production, everyone is beholden to them ,even gocernments.
Same as Facebook. (likeif you report a scam account they will see "nothing wrong" and preceded on.
Like Dr. McCoy said, "The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." And now there is an algorithm for it. We're doomed.
Computers (algorithms, whatever) should not be allowed to perform actions like this. And we DO need an alternative to TH-cam.
An alternative site would likely face the same issues (though more competition could be beneficial). Section 230, which protects U.S. websites from liability for user-generated content, does not shield them from intellectual property claims. Therefore, websites need measures to avoid lawsuits. False positives likely have negligible consequences, and the manpower required to manually review every flagged piece of content would be astronomical.
Alternative to youtube is so badly needed.
Desperately
Hopefully as AI improves it will be able to distinguish between samples and examples of techniques used.
We have one, Its called Rumble
I got a copyright claim for my own performance of an operatic aria (with a live chamber ensemble) composed by someone who's been dead for over 200 years!! It's nuts!! Really sorry, you're going through this.
Oh, those aren't auto-claims. Other companies put up public domain performances and then copyright claim anyone that puts up their own performances, because if TH-cam sees that they have an older version of the performance, they won't support you in a copyright claim. Then the accuser is the one who decides whether or not to rescind the copyright claim. That's the best part. TH-cam doesn't decide how this ends. The company that made the accusation is the judge and jury.
I’ve gotten copyright claims on Gregorian chant.
Two hundred years!!! Gotta love coputers!
@@JediKnyghtewasn't Gaudete was it? I did a brass band arrangement using a legit version of Sibelous and had an email to tell me that the copyright was still in effect (some 500 years after it was originally written), then O Store Gud aka How Great Thou Art, another brass band arrangement of a 15th century Swedish folk song, it was removed within minutes with a warning that if I continue to 'plagiarise' I'd have my page taken down 😂
@@bazharnett7904 Missa de Angelis, a capella (so no accompaniment issues).
I'm also reminded of a PhD paper where the student was accused of plagiarism for quoting a previous paper... His OWN!
Unfortunately that is a thing, in academia you have to directly refer the older papers you're quoting, including your own.
John Fogerty got sued for plagerizing his own music. So this kinda thing does happen to even the more famous people too.
Facebook deleted my wedding video for copyright. I recorded it myself on my phone using a tripod. No professional photographer involved. Can't make this stuff up.
Did your wedding video have any songs in it? That would trigger the copyright algorithms
TH-cam is so weird - honestly, this is only going to get worse because AI does so many of these tasks. So many channels ripping off entire movies - but when I posted videos during the pandemic for my university classes (which I teach) using clips from the films we were studying, clips under 3 min each, all my videos were blocked based on copyright. I ended up doing a Powerpoint recorded show and embedding the clips, but students had a lot of problems with those - whereas TH-cam would have been accessible for all students. Music teachers I know had the same problems, but with music clips instead of film (we have a good music program focusing on strings).
Please You tube, find a better, more fair way of monitoring these things! This guy does not deserve to be blocked in his content. He is giving a great service and is very conscious of copyright!
they don't. they handed it off to the claimant long ago, short of an actual DMCA filing. and since most of the world doesn't involve the DMCA.. well, there you go.
Sometimes I edit out the copyright footage myself, then reupload it as a new video, but it then detects a different area altogether as copyrighted. The system is either broken, or being manipulated
they not going to stop until creators start lawsuits for malicious negligence for improper tagging, destruction of private property (deleting videos) violations of free speech and suppression of creative freedom as well as anti-trust. they only understand one thing. is the lawsuit going to cost more than they budgeted for in acceptable losses?
How FRUSTRATING. I'm totally with you. They've taken a short cut and haven't made a good decision.
They completely demonetized Canadian Stud Muffins channel for all kind of BS. We really need to find another platform for original content providers, YT is out of control.
Canadian Stud Muffins?? They should have demonetized that person's channel just for using that name.
@@siberianhusky5874 Why, because you are a triggered woke leftie?
rumble
@siberianhusky5874 that name is better than a breed of dog.
@@YatesNYC But I don't post videos, I just watch and respond to some of them.
TH-cam has all kinds of nonsense. That's why it's so important to spread out as much as possible among various platforms.
Which platforms? Facebook and Instagram are unacceptable. Patreon is doable, but I think they limit storage/charge more for storage. Discord might be workable for some features.
Zefrank1 made a post about TH-cam last year, when the new CEO started pushing shorts, and punishing long form creators. We need something completely new.
Yes. I'm starting to get some of my comments blocked. Not swearing, no racism, no nasty calling names. The last comment I got block was someone asked what AARO was, an overseeing part of the government containing sightings of UAPs by military personnel. Which is pretty much what I said. Let's see if this gets blocked also.
@@tootz1950 Yes, and I can only sympathise - I'm being blocked too, increasingly often. Like you, I don't go in for rudeness, nasty name-calling, racism or any other-ism or -phobia, but always try and present reasoned arguments, sometimes on political controversies. I'm sure my views may not always be immediately understandable and might well annoy some people, but I do always endeavour to express myself respectfully. I see others being appalling in many of the above ways without being blocked, but for some reason, mine are. There's not way of knowing why. I don't usually post on the usual trigger subjects like pandemic conspiracies, official and unofficially sanctioned remedies, etc. I call people by their proper names, including 'Mr' or 'Ms' and I try to retain a sense of humour and compassion, even when strongly disagreeing with someone. Sometimes I'll spend quite a bit of time making sure my arguments are reasonable and clearly expressed, and my tone non-nasty.
I just don't understand how YT's weird monitoring system works or what I can do about it.
They even once accused me of running a scam, after I'd reported a lot of scams to them, and banned me for a day. They did give me the opportunity to comment, so I did, and asked them to just tell me which posts/ comments had given them this impression, but I never heard back from them - no explanation at all.
It's just bizarre, and increasingly disheartening.
You are delusional if you dont understand that they are all the same. Or at least they will be. If youtube starts to fall and somewhere else takes over, you will get the same result in the end. ALL platforms would censor you during COVID if you had the wrong opinion, or said the wrong theory about COVID.
@@tootz1950yes, my comments are eliminated on other channels quite often.
That time when John Fogerty was sued by Creedence Clearwater Revival's label for sounding too much like CCR...
What about George Harrison's My Sweet Lord
sounding like He's So Fine by the Chiffons
@@Kat-I-am3333 that faint whoosh you may or may not have heard was the point going over your head at a very slow speed
My first thought too! Fogerty won that case...eventually, after much lawyer fees down the toilet.
@@Kat-I-am3333was George Harrison part of the Chifftons? I must have missed that.
Because what's significant about the issue with Fogarty is that he was the main songwriter and vocalist of CCR. He was being accused of stealing from himself.
Would your example be about Harrison stealing from himself?
@@pjaypender1009 no, the Chiffons was an all-girl group in the 60s
TH-cam has become totally beserk. Your videos are educational (and so enjoyable) and your video greatly assist others who watch and try to make their guitar skills better. Which can only be a good thing!
That's wild, Fil! Teaching, demonstrating, and explaining vocal and guitar techniques are not copyright violations.
If the algorithm can't identify fair use with 100% accuracy, then it should be scrapped!
Like VAR in the English Premier League!
Obviously "Instructional". Should not get "Striked".
@Andy_Panda, do you really expect computer algorithms to be able to differentiate someone mentioning a song and using the song, but not reviewing it or critiquing it, as opposed to someone talking about a song & playing a song in a review video.
Algorithms are digital! Nothing is "listening" as how we hear it.
When the songs recognition apps are 100% correct all the time, get back to me with your comment; it'll be more acceptable consideration, then.
[I'm not defending the YT systems, dislike it as much as anyone, & been a victim of it long ago, but computers aren't really doing Artificial Intelligence yet.
AI is just a fancy way of saying millions of gigs more is used in data-sets, to get results. Everything, even how Chat GPT auto writes, is still programmed by people].
Yes absolutely. They can analyze and correct script and audio now, so it's an easy go to consider the entirety of the video using the content in question.
Or, stop making music about money. It has killed it quite dead already@@CityBeatEntertainme5
I don't think that's the issue, but rather the fact that it's difficult to dispute.
We need an alternative to TH-cam. I’m tired of having so many of my comments blocked as well-for no good reason that I can see
Agreed. Even repeating facts verified by fact-checkers goes against "community standards."
Rumble?
@@jumpingpeppers2263No, definitely no. Rumble is owned by a right wing billionaire. It will end up being worse than YT.
I agree. I can see no reason whatsoever why some of my comments have been deleted. What’s bizarre is I will get notifications in email saying that my comment was responded to, but the comment is gone. No sense at all.
Really. Several times now they blocked me from commenting for a day or so, and I've never had the SLIGHTEST idea why.
So let's get this straight. A guitarist playing his guitar is a copyright violation? OK, could a dancer dancing be a copyright violation? What about a juggler juggling? Clowns clowning? TH-cam mods modding?
What about me making scrambled eggs?
or a politician being a politician.
@@PostageDew-yg9cr How do you know?
@@PostageDew-yg9cr Interesting
i saw a web developer show index.html in his video, that must be a copyright claim too.
You should send this video to the TH-cam censors/copywright police; there have got to be some live people behind the algorithms and AI operations. You have perfectly explained the problem. Your analogy to your voice demos is definitive.
Those live people are highly paid managers that don’t give a damn about any individual human, or any harm done to them by their arbitrary & capricious tools.
Oh, sure. Let's just call them up on the phone. Or e-mail them this link. They're waiting to hear from you.
And this is why algorithms are not trusted to drive our cars.
They are not even remotely similar.
The automakers have a profit incentive to make an algorithm that makes correct decisions.
TH-cam has a profit incentive to make an algorithm that makes incorrect decisions in favor of the music rights organization every time. It's the same thing they've been doing for years.
Detecting copyright and recognising objects are two very different things. The only overlap is that they both have video data. But their end-task is vastly different.
It's like saying that a tea kettle and coffe maker are identical.
@@suddeneevee9441HTML Error 418: I'm a teapot
Honestly I don't trust humans to drive our cars either.
I don't even really trust humans to drive cars
At the same time, they allow for trolls to claim the rights to officially uploaded music videos. Some tiny company makes an indifferent cover of a song, claims the original version is a cover of their version and takes the money. Then, neither TH-cam nor the original labels seem to care.
I look forward to the day when there’s a lot of competition for TH-cam from other streaming services. They are now trying to claim copyright with single notes. Unbelievable.
Even better, someone got a copyright strike for silence
Never ever use the letter X anymore, it has been copyrighted to replace (ex)twitter 😅
I wish they would lose out all together to the big R
Didn't Cadbury try and copyright the colour purple?
@@jameslong9921 Candy Crush tried to copyright the use of candy in video games.
Absolutely ridiculous! 🤦🏻♀️
Tell TH-cam channel to mind it's own business.
You are the only reason we are watching these videos in the first place.
You tell us what we want to know about the music and the industry.
And we love to watch you while you are talking to us about them 🎉🎉🎉🎉.Fil you are the best.
Rock ❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Welcome to TH-cam we never claim to know what we are doing here however shut up, and do as you are told we do this because we love you!
Every time I think that YT's rules can't get more ridiculous or absurd, we find ourselves in a place like this. This is so many colours of stupid!! 🙄
The robot generated copyright claims on TH-cam are truly insane. I put up a video about a drums enhancement plugin and used few drums tracks that were generated using GarageBand simulated drummers. One of these tracks got a copyright claim on it and when I checked the song they claimed had copyright on it the song used exactly the same GarageBand drummer part at the start. I challenged the claim pointing out Apple's terms of use and thankfully the copyright claim was removed.
It's nuts that TH-cam loses its head over content that is promoting the artists in question. Surely the artists would be pleased to have their techniques celebrated!
It's not so nuts when you realize it's all automated for the benefit corporations and TH-cam bows to corporations. Validating the legitimacy of claims would take human interaction and that would cost money.
TH-cam is clearly staffed by pinheads. I do hope that you get around this idiocy. Love your channel!
That is just crazy and maddening, Fil! I am so sorry you are struggling with this!
Very often these are auto generated by computer analysis , and do not involve a human review. Nothing like getting your unique demonstrations triggering copyright blocks. 🙃
This! ☝️
There's no human review involved whatsoever. Also, you can try your hardest to initiate a human interaction with someone from TH-cam via email, or through TH-cam's own 'help' channels, etc, etc, and you will never get to speak to an actual human being about your problem. I feel for Phil here because he literally has no way of resolving his issue since there is no human TH-cam representative who will to listen to or investigate the problems he is experiencing.
@@LordHighnessRegarding Artificial Intelligence, emphasize Artificial. The bots have taken over.
@@LordHighness Twitter is a good place to yell at TH-cam....
And there is no person to call, with whom to discuss the issue.
This is the way all service will become. Soon.
Customer service is a thing of the past. They don’t give a 💩 about their customers!!! ☮️🖤🤘
@@jskit92380 It's literally impossible. They'd have to employ and train hundreds of thousands to do this work. I'm not defending YT -- I have had videos and my entire channel shut down, wrongly, multiple times. It just is what it is.
So frustrating, whenever I try the Contact me of a company you end up with a bot who doesn’t answer questions just has generic queries then asks if you find it helpful . No I don’t. You just go round in circles. Poor Fil
@@kristymac3236 I did customer support for EOD robotics for 8 years. US military and first responder. Required to solve their peoblems then and there even if a bomb was live and present. Unheard of today. Glad to have done it, A bit drunk at the moment. Happy Birthday USA.
This reminds me of a chapter in the book Catch 22 where the main guy is assigned to censoring the mail and so to keep it from getting boring he decides to strike out every third word or so. There's no real thought put into it; it's just censorship.
This just ridiculous, I hope situations like this can get resolved.
TH-cam has become as despicable as Windows 11,which I don't want to upgrade to.
There are alternatives for YT and we need to start uploading our stuff out of here.
I got one for a live video of me playing a bugle doing the last post. They claimed it was a recording made by someone else..... I won that battle eventually but lost on another where TH-cam identified my band playing the Australian National Anthem as a breach of copyright.. insane
TH-cam Algorithm is a real pain in the ass! I'm totally sick of the control freaks running social media sites. And in your case this BS is unexpectable.
WOW...when I saw the title of the video I had to do a doubletake!! This is complete insanity!!
I'm really sorry that you're having to deal with such nonsense FIL...it's got to be maddening.
SOOO.....THANKS ALL THE MORE for everything you do to share your vast knowledge with everybody here! I definitely am grateful, because I learn something new with each video!!
Oof. As a software engineer, my first thought is that the false positives (and I think that's what these are) are probably rather specific to the electric guitar.
It's sound is incredibly distinct from any other sounds and instruments, but it's waveform is so pure that it may be indistinguishable (at least within the tolerances of the copyright detecting algorithms) from several other times that electric guitars have played the same notes.
That's different than say, with a violin. Every violin has a noticeably different composition of sub frequencies. If the same musician played the same note perfectly on two different violins, the recordings would be different enough to recognize that neither is a copy of the other.
i smell a lawsuit against YT. and SERIOUSLY think you should contact a copyright attorney. (i worked in the legal field for 17 years, and think you have a very strong case here.)
be his lawyer
you can do this
What we would he gain? Lost revenue for one video? That doesn't add up.
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 rights
@@HunterShows a right to his own stuff? He already has that. It would be just a case for damages, which wouldn't cover the legal fees.
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 Settlements frequently include legal fees including damages. He does NOT have the right to his own stuff because as you have seen, TH-cam is denying him that.
I agree this is absolutely ridiculous. Hopefully, you can fight this.
If a chord or progression could be copywrited Bach's and Beethoven's heirs would be very wealthy indeed and Pachelbel would be able to strike nearly every pop song made since the 1950s because they are nearly all 1, 3, 4, and 5 chords from the root key.
We are at this point, Rick Beato ponted this once out, they start to copyright basic chord progressions and perhaps tomorrow a single note. Not YT but the music industry and finally they stand behind this stiffness of YT, because you know since 50 years they claim "we could have earned ### billions more, if not... (cassette, cd, and-so-on)". That's how sick beanscounters think.
*It's not that they have a loss but they could have earned more based on their own prognosis and than they claim this difference as a loss in profit.*
This and other sick ideas they teach in our businessschools - others learn a craft.
@@Gernot66 I could not agree more. I love Huey Lewis but was also kinda sad that he won a suit against the song Ghostbusters for plagiarizing I want a new drug. While if your looking for similarities you can find them I think it was an overreach, and such cases are far too common for my liking. Before someone comments this, I am ware that Huey Lewis was approached and declined to write songs for Ghostbusters but again IMHO Ghostbusters was an original work by Ray Parker Jr. It goes to show that a few chords in common and maybe some similarities to the beat and guitar riff is all it takes. Given that standard nearly any two songs could be compared to look for commonality and it can be found in a scale of only 13 notes and the circle of 5th being a pretty dominant way to create a progression.
@@larrybremer4930 Which leads to such as a by me rearranged midi of a triosonata by Bach was once claimed as an instrumental part of a to me unknown pop band. Poor Johann Sebastian. It's really fucked up.
I often guess that the music will work for a clip just to to have another copyright claim for a noise (typically soundtracker modules from the '90s which i often use), really a noise just a beam which could be any beam you create with a parametrical synthesizer and it was claimed as copyrighted because a similar beam sfx was used in i don't know which synth-track, yes it was about 10 seconds long but that is still a single sfx even if it would last a minute or whatever would match the lead-in to a track. 🤦♂. Next time someone records a wind noise created on a Moog and because it matches "wish you where here" in duration it's copyrighted.
(my channel fortunately isn't monetized, btw it's a new one i started because i was very frustrated after the adblocker blocking because the warning still appeared a month later after i removed my adblocker).
If we extend this idea tomorrow certain keyword phrases to program an AI generated track can be copyrighted. I mean if i can copyright the setup for a parametrical or analogue synthesizer? Factually this all can't be copyrighted but you have to bring the proof to refute the claim, which sometimes really works but usually not, it's still their matter to accept the refute neither that they have to proof their claim or refusing of a refuted claim. The prosecutor is an algorithm, and it doesn't stops searching until it finds a pimple because there is always a pimple to find if you dig deep enough.
So we have to live with the fact that "Redemption Song" electrified version with the Waylers isn't Bob Marley at all, it happened to me quite long ago. Some artificial character, i searched for the Single and it's the only one of this "Artist" played by and copyrighted to xy but none of what would be known to my as pseudonym for Lee Perry. For claiming twice (i refuted the refuse) that it is Bob Marley i was fined with a cancelling of my channel for half a year. I guess third time you receive this penalty you will be removed completly. *You can try to refute it once but never refute it twice!* Since there is no real way for you to bring evidence except to send them the master reel.
A copyright claim for a bootleg and claiming the bootleg is the original🤦♂ oh yeah!
Mindless machine.
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I have an unregistered HMV record of Rudolf Serkin playing Beethoven, i guess in the '20s and '30s he was somewhat popular in Europe ('33 he left Berlin). However, i asked the HMV archive about this record set, it's not registered and i guess it's probably a radio cut since each of the tracks i found on other records of this time by a search in the web. Informations might have get lost for this Album, the labels have a handwritten 14 7 25 on it which is probably the date of filing. The condition is astonishing good almost like never played apart from a small pressing failure on one side of the three record set.
I wonder already what happens if i upload it once.
@@larrybremer4930 There is a worse example. Blurred Lines was considered a copyright violation for having a similar drum beat to a Marvin Gaye song. At lease Ed Sheeran successfully defended the claims against him.
TH-cam copyright is broken and needs a complete overhaul.
It's learning. Didn't you do stupid things as a toddler?
The whole copyright law is broken. It needs a complete overhaul.
@@SirStumblesALot Exactly. Copyright law and treaties have run amok and they are widely unenforceable on today's internet without automated pattern recognition and ai. This is why TH-cam is desperate and has to use automated detection systems. They are liable for infringements on their platform but detecting infringements in a hundred million videos is really hard. The fundamental problem isn't TH-cam. The problem is copyright law itself and the way it has been lobbied to mostly serve huge corporations and asset owners.
I have never had anything to do with music in my life, cannot play an instrument or sing, and yet I absolutely adore this channel and the way fil explains stuff.
It's by far the best thing I've ever seen, just to watch how my favourite bands perform their miracles.
PLEASE don't give up.
You Tube needs review, or we all need an alternative platform.
You do a fabulous job breaking down these songs and I am not a musician but love listening to you explain things to the audience. Take it on like David and Goliath - one video at a time!!!
I believe TH-cam’s goal is to eliminate all music other than what is on their own, TH-cam music service.
YT is the biggest troll online!
Too bad Fil can’t do a Troll Corner on YT LOL!
@@glamgal7106, Oh, he should make a FilToon about it. That would be hilarious.
TH-cam doesn’t care about fair use honestly😡
YT doesn't want to spend all their time guessing what is fair use and getting sued by record companies
@@fuzzy1dk True
Yeah, YT doesn't even try. There's no way to challenge their bad decisions, either.
Yep. Just acts like it does and does what's convenient for the platform. Never the user that gives the platform reason or meaning.
@@sister_bertrille911not at all. Too AI heavy which also lets you know how little they pay people or how job availabilities are more or less nonexistent.
Take youtube to court and help us out
Make sure you have a back up plan like Rumble and your own website. (Leave your videos up...If TH-cam ever get's whacked in court, your video will lose it's copyright strike - not sure how that affects monetization)
You have the patience of a saint!
You shouldn’t have to deal with this garbage, Fil. I greatly appreciate your analyses.
1. You change nothing;
2. You dispute the claim, providing TH-cam and the claimant your contact info; and
3. Unless the person making the claim proves to TH-cam that they are actually suing you in a real court, the claim expires.
Hint: they are not going to sue you because that would involve a real breathing lawyer (not a bot) that would cost them money and everything you do is obviously fair use so any competent copyright attorney will tell them they are going to lose 100% of the time and if you are in UK that will cost them more money because they will have to pay your legal expenses as well (something they don't have to worry about in the US).
"and the claimant your contact info"
Fil you are one the most respectful channel regarding copywrite. And it's definitely a shame. A video when you play guitar and explain technic, who'll be worth it ( and I don't play guitar) .
That is INSANE! I love your helpful and insightful videos, please don’t ever stop! ❌⭕️❌ 🤘
Big Brother IS watching .
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Also , the old expression " When they try to drive you crazy , take away the keys ". Fight the good fight.
Man alive! If it's not one thing, it's another, isn't it? TH-cam has the problems, not you! So stay strong and positive, we have your back! Remember, this too shall pass!
It's amazing how much I have learned from the short time I have been watching your videos. My appreciation for all types of music has risen dramatically as I have watched your appreciation for various genres of music. It is a shame that TH-cam lacks appreciation for your skill/art/genius in teaching novices like me about music that they such a nonsensical interpretation of fair use to keep you from fully sharing your insights.
I agree !
Copyright stuff is so stupid in general. Anything below 1 minute should not even be taken into consideration.
Crazy, content will become more homogeneous over time. Your content ROCKS
well that is just ridiculous
Hi Fil,
This is an unfortunate situation with TH-cam. I’m sure you will sort out the best way to deal with it. It’s not right considering how much, thought, time and effort you put into your videos. But as you always say… we will push forward and see what happens… Debbie☮️
They love this system. The worse AI gets, the more it finds copyright infringement. And they keep playing ads, but don't have to pay creators. A total win for them.
Then it's a self-solving problem. Eventually, the bot will copyright-strike every video and the platform will collapse.
Of course they did...Keep doing what you're doing..Great stuff.
Crazy stuff!
What Fil said about AI is indeed the problem. The sheer volume of data that is uploaded to this platform every day, cannot possibly be monitored by a human being. Algo's have been created to "do" that job, but as we can see, they don't have any judgement. This is why people always say to challenge copyright claims, as the feedback might be considered by an actual person, so has a much better chance of being OK. Still does not always work, but has a good chance.
@@NinjaKittyBonks Tells me what to do, for sure!
😂😂😂 amazing! This is a typical example of what happens when you let AI making censoring choices. Believe you have cause for action against Google on this one 👍
Or at least the makings of a great mass media human interest story.
If anybody is claiming ownership of Fil playing, then they're technically committing copyright infringement themselves (ironically). So yes, he has grounds to pursue legal action, but is it worth it?
All bow and worship before the Almighty Algorithm! The Algorithm tells us all that we need to know, and defines all Truth! All hail the Algorithm!
"Computer says No" was meant to be a joke, not a business model.
TH-cam isn't claiming anything... Anyone (including scammers) can claim whatever they want on YT and YT will stay out of it because that is how copyright law is written, they must take every claim and not even bother to find out if it is legitimate, unfortunately the only way to properly resolve it is to do a counterclaim and most likely go to court over it...
Wish You luck, I enjoy Your Channel!
You have an excellent, enlightening, interesting channel. Must be the music biz narcissist's losing attention. Thanks for the great analysis. Rock on!!!
This clearly falls within fair use guidelines and should not be a copyright alert.
TH-cam has no incentive to sort out what might be fair use or not, that can only be determined in court or by agreement with the claimant.
Kudos! I agree your use of Bowie and others was fair use.
"Doesn't sound like David Bowie singing." Well, David does have an incredible voice - but here, I laughing while rolling on floor must admit you're darned right."
How deflating. Fil is doing us a service with these musical explanations and his style of video is unique. Probably too unique for a computer to grasp.
Fil, this is definitely craziness! I can't even wrap my mind around this! I'm sure you will get it sorted out! You have the patience of a saint and the persistance of an otherworldly being therefore I bet you will get this ridiculous situation taken care of ! 💜
We know where Fil’s album title originated.
@SuziQ. Yes, we do! Fil is a persistent guy. He never gives up!!
A modern version of: "You can't argue with The Man, The Man don't care to understand." The modern difference is there is no man...the algorithm don't care to understand. Idiocracy.
No good deed goes unpunished 😢. Will stick with you no matter what.
TH-cam seems to be taking lessons from the Federalist Society.
TH-cam is getting much too complicated place for someone to enjoy and learn stuff! The Happy old days are way back left behind!
Fil, there is no reason why this should happen. I feel you should fight the good fight, and always continue to give your audience what they want which is great content from YOU. !!!
Oh my! That is hysterical..and hysteria on YT's part. I can't imagine whats going on...yah yah..algorithms. My suggestion would be..please ...navigate around all this BS. You are a great asset to real music and music education. We will be here for you... "a bit of a shame" at about 7 min mark. You are a good soul.
Utter ridiculous. Crazy.
Is YT like FB where there are no humans to complain to??
So sorry. I absolutely love your videos. I've learned so much.
Yes, it’s all bots. 😖
Ahh man that sucks!!! TH-cam are now the guardians of original content huh🤣 What a F'n JOKE❗
I think you're awesome, informative, fair, incredibly educated, talented & possess the insight to produce an unequalled level of excellence imparting your critical analysis etc etc etc 😁👩🎤
Sorry you’re going through this. How awful and ridiculous.
Is there still the option to show TH-cam that they've claimed a false positive? Of course it would require a human being to review it and I'm not so sure there are any thinking humans at the company anymore.
Just at TH-cam? That’s generous