The Two Trees of Valinor and the White Tree of Gondor | Tolkien Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2021
- In honor of the new image released by Amazon's Lord of the Rings on Prime, we are covering The Two Trees of Valinor and how they directly connect to the White Trees of Gondor. We trace the line of the trees - from Laurelin and Telperion, to Galathilion in Tirion, to Nimloth of Numenor, to the White Tree of Gondor.
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Isildur Healed - Peter Xavier Price
Isildur - Liz Danforth
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Isildur Cuts the Ring - Denis Gordeev
The White Tree - Karen Papazian
Plauge - Steven Cavallo
Departure from Gondor - Anke Eissmann
The White Tree - Aegeri Darxekz
Belecthor of Dol Amroth - Michel Saldanha
Brothers and the White Tree of Gondor - Aegeri
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Gandalf shows Aragorn a Sapling of the White Tree
Elessar and Mithrandir - Peet
The White Tree of Gondor - Aegeri
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What do you think is the story behind the image released by Amazon? Is it a prologue? Think we will see the destruction of the Two Trees?
Prologue, similar the fellowship. Will show some backstory on it
I think it could be the first plot line for season one
I would love it if we could get one of the main characters say the famous poem .
Tall ships and tall kings
Three times three
What brought they from the fondered lands
Over the flowing sea
Seven stars and seven stones and one white tree.
DEF a prologue for sure!!! We could end up seeing glimpses of some first age events occasionally scattered throughout the series. It could aid in further explaining the story line whenever the need arises.
I'd guess that it's a prologue, giving a little background to the story that follows.
Even the trees have confusing names and lineage, Tolkien’s details are unparalleled
If you’ll forgive the pun, the Professor loved to sow the seeds of confusion.
I quite convinced that if some future civilization finds this books long after we are gone, they possibly can believe it was truly a real world
@@anothermouth7077 Well for some of the readers Tolkien's books already are as holy than the Bible. In next 2000 years when we live in post-apocalyptic world, maybe some group of future geeks will create religion out of it.
Yeah there's one of the kids that does a channel on a lot of it I want to say men of the West that guy is unbelievable on his detail I've never even heard him stutter on name and all the stuff! I stutter on my own name sometimes in the morning. The kids unbelievable and very good at this stuff He missed his calling but I hope he's making good money
Couldn't agree with you more.
Till now, no fantasy work could overshadow Tolkien's legacy.
Never has a tree's genealogy been so epic, ancient and majestic.
Agreed
Talk about Isildur's dedication and perseverance saving the tree.
I like how this shines a different light to his character, from just LOTR Isildur (under the influence of the ring) comes off rather dislikeable, but hearing how much he risked for the tree gives him much more depth than I originally thought.
@@MoPaTography That's the Power of The Ring, I just now realized it because of this video.
He just wants to save, The White Tree!!! 😂
And not once but twice, carrying a sapling from doomed Numenor and another from fallen Minas Ithil. He obviously conidered the tree an important heirloom or symbol for his people.
"Why bother with winning a war when I have all I need right here. Now leave me while I stare at this sapling until dusk!"
The "Undying Lands"
Two most important trees there: die....
*1st Kinslaying intensifies*
Lol that irony huh?? But technically is it called the Undying Lands before it's removed from the physical plane of Arda after the Akallabeth?
More accurately, the two tree were 'killed'
More accurately, the two tree's were eaten alive
@@LordVader1094 the first death in Aman was Feanor's mother, who died of sorrow after his birth
Like you I'm also obsessed with Tolkien's works. Glad to see there are channels like this to show how amazing his works are.
It's is truly the greatest fantasy world of all-time!
Talk about isuldurs dedication to get the sapling before his city was taken by evil forces
I'm hoping we get to see the heroic side of Isildur in the new show. It will make his failure to destroy the One Ring all the more tragic!
„Today on Nerd Of The Rings“
One of my favorite TH-cam sentences!
Your dedication to Tolkien's lore is like that of Isildur's desire to preserve the line of the trees. I'm a newer follower of your channel and admire all the work you put into your videos.
Man, Tolkien's universe really is second to none.
Are you excited for it's destruction?
@@GeorgeEstregan828 Can´t wait! :c
@@GeorgeEstregan828 Hey! be optimistic, it still has a chance to be good!
agreed, man! in my opinion, Arda, Tamriel and the World from the witcher franchise are the best
Could not agree more 😊
Dude the scripts you make for these videos is so good. I don’t think you realize how iconic your voice is to LOTR fans around the world… love your content and this channel deserves so much recognition!
So sad that Isildur valiantly rebelled against evil & the cult of Melkor... only to succumb to the darkness of the one ring
no one could have have thrown the ring into the fire not aragorn not sam or elrond thats the entire point of lord of the rings it had to be accidental
He never succumbed to the darkness of the one ring. That is something Peter Jackson popularized. Isildur was on his way to give the ring away to Arnor when he died.
@bastiat No one's assuming anything, Tolkien said that himself.
Judging from this video, it's REALLY hard to have a nice tree in Middle Earth without some random Dark Lord wanting to cut it down.
This is what I love about Tolkien. I truly feel immersed in a world that somewhere in this universe exists but is yet to be discovered. The level of detail and involvement in this world is unparalleled. I'm currently reading the Silmarillion and just read the chapter about the white tree. I just can't get enough of all of this lore.
I would've never expected to feel so moved by the story of the Two Trees and The White Trees 🥺
Tolkien would be proud of your appreciation for trees. 😊
@@NerdoftheRings thanks so much for replying, cheers from Dublin, Ireland. Keep it up with the content, it's fascinating
Don't forget the Party Tree and its importance!
Absolutely gem of a tree
Ah, the lamented Party Tree.
And, then Sam planted a _mallorn_ tree to grow where the Party Tree had been ripped down; the only mallorn growing outside Lorien.
No disrespect to life, but it was just a tree
@@leonardofaber5823 you sound like a Sackville-Baggins
@@hazbojangles2681 what I meant with my previous comment is that the Party Tree had no importance in the lore. It was not descandant of a great tree like the ones on the video, and no great moment of Middle-earth' history took place there. It was just a tree that was cut down by Saruman and then replaced by the mallorn.
To the hobbits it was big deal for they valued it like they valued everything natural that came from the earth. But to the myths? As I said, just a tree
The white tree blooming the aaragon found and planted in the white city. Brings a tear to my eye everytime
Great video! We just had 2 trees placed in the backyard of our new house. I’m sure you can guess their names.
Otho and Lobelia?
Bonnie and Clyde?
Harold and Maude?
Curious... What species of tree did you plant?
Tom and Jerry?
Mr. Tolkien's mention of trees and gardening fostered a life-long appreciation of horticulture for me. I still love to go walking in the woods and investigating flowers and so forth.
Actually his love of and appreciation for trees was one thing that drew me to his writing, as I already felt the same way before reading Tolkien.
@@Enerdhil I started way back in the 60's and 70s. I'd loved a good garden before that, but I really began to appreciate it after reading Tolkien's books.
@@grokeffer6226
I learned gardening as a child in the sixties and learned to love trees in the early eighties working for a tree surgeon. There is a science to cutting off or trimming tree branches.
I cant remember the quote but someone said could not stand taking walks with Tolkien because he would stop every 100 feet to talk about the trees and plants.
@@ColoradoStreaming I'm sort of a nature freak, getting excited over kingfishers and coots and such. Trees and flowers, too. It's not for everybody, but I like it.
I love how Ungoliant the Spider, also called the Devourer, was capable of consuming both darkness and light itself. She is, to this day, one of my favorite beings of Tolkien's inventions.
They're both light one is just silver and one is gold.
@@KrookedKookie I think there was a slight misunderstanding here, let me correct it right quick. The part of my comment about light and dark was reference to the part of the Silmarillion where Ungoliant is introduced. It said that she grew to be so ravenous that she could consume both light and darkness itself. I wasn't referencing the two trees when I said that.
Then she ate herself lmaooo
I just hope this Amazon series does justice to the Tolkien legacy.
A lot of us had this same feeling years before the movies, hearing Sean Connery might be Gandalf was worrying to say the least
@@tw0crows74 I mean I don't have hope they randomly made dark elves in the series made galadriel into a warrior and she falls for a man instead of celeborn who just got deleted from existence 🤦 and already a bunch of timelines were changed some characters aged up some events happening yrs later or before 🤦🤦
They looked amazing in the second trailer 😍
This comment aged like milk
I have bad news for you bud...
Thank you for this video and for focusing on the tress without digressions :) I never understood nor appreciated enough the scen of Aragorn finding the sapling in the mountains. Now I see how important it was.
These videos are so interesting and entertaining. I really appreciate it, being a LOTR fan.
Thanks so much! Glad you are enjoying the channel!!
I know it’s a lot to ask but it would be astronomically rad if you could do a full Silmarillion timeline, even if you used old footage and cut it together in sequential order. Your channel rules them all btw, huge fan 🖤
Great video to cap off a fun week. Your deep dives, not only into the trees of valinor but taking the important trees all the way through to the end, gives me inspiration over and over throughout the video.
One of my favorite vids on this channel. Great story that brings many themes of ME together in a coherent way.
I love when there are connections from ancient history to the Third Age/LOTR story. So cool.
"Those trees looking mighty delicious" some giant spider
So she was a vegetarian? 😂
"As with most things, the trees would be ruined by a Dark Lord." Oof. Damn you, Dark Lords! This is why we can't have nice things!
Really, you are turning out such lucid and beautiful content. It will be a pleasure to see your reviews of “the second age” show by Amazon.
Nerd of the rings is one of the best channels of TH-cam. Brilliant video. We know it takes a lot of time and dedication towards these videos. Love from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🏴.
When the show is released in late September next year, will you go through each episode with Easter eggs, theories and stuff like that? Really appreciate your videos and would be happy if you did something like this.😁
Oh this sounds like an incredible idea!!
This is a must!
Oh yes please!!!👍👍👍
Please
But he’ll be overworked…
I just realised that you uploaded 4 minutes ago and it wasn't from my notifications, it was from your channel page! I was just rewatching part one of Morgoth's origin, and I realised this was here.
Keep up the amazing work! The depth in this world is unparalleled!
Thanks so much! So glad you are loving the channel!!
@@NerdoftheRings definitely! Your videos are super entertaining, and they're always so well put together. Your channel is such a good way to learn about middle earth, I've recently got back into it and have been so addicted!
obsessed with these videos, can't wait for the amazon series.
@Kristopher Prime ok negative Nancy..
THE BEST VIDEO I have EVER seen about the trees!!!!!!!! (…and there have been many great ones put out!)
EXCELLENT JOB!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I think it could have been better if he read the Silmarillion passage describing them. I don't think fan art does them justice.
@@Enerdhil I can agree with that! The Silmarillon’s description was indeed FANTASTIC.
Oh wow, this was so very well put together! You're just developing more and more with everything, thank you. Keep up the good work!
I got excited when I saw you just uploaded this subject!👍👍
This kind of videos just makes the channel even better, I was even so excited to rewatch some videos of your channel. Keep it up!
Haven't seen your videos in a while, been a stressful time. I'm so glad this is the video I start with though, and that I have a couple of weeks worth of videos to watch now
Nice post. Welcome back.
@@Enerdhil thank you 🌟
The fact that a new sapling from those ancient trees was found, despite all odds, reminds me of the iconic words of Jurassic Park:
"Life finds a way."
never tire of hearing these stories
As for the series from Amazon, it's not the look I'm worried about, I'm sure they have the best resources to ensure a spectacular look, but everything else, something tells me it's all going to be a horror show.
And It's not a matter of being pessimistic or hater, but when it comes to entertainment, I've watched a lot of good franchises die or be warped beyond comprehension, we live in dark times without a doubt.
I feel the same. I keep hoping that at some point sanity might prevail...but..we'll just have to see.
There is so much good in the world of Tolkien and hopefully they dive deep into it without the baggage of our current society, but it seems like most stories today can't just be good stories.
With The Hobbit being this bad, of course we can presume this show will be dreadful!
Yep I’ve already seen multiple signs that the series is going to hijack this amazing lore to push a modern day political agenda. Like you said, it will no doubt look amazing but I think the story and characters are going to suffer majorly at the hands of the current ideological culture war.
What can man do against such reckless hate?
Pretty cool video to watch since I just started reading the Silmarillion recently (after having read LOTR and TH/TABA many times over the past 20-30 years) and only just learned about these trees and so far some of the events in the first and second ages that you reference.
You do a great job bringing it all together into easily digestible videos while utilising amazing but also relevant artwork. Keep up the awesome work! 👍
Just found your channel and find it fantastic! Thank you for the awesome details and excellent explanations. Look forward to future videos about the show and when it comes out! keep it up!
Where's that "Maps of Middle Earth: The Third Age" video!? Those have to be my favorite so far, and the complete travels but these are cool too.
Congrats on 300k man! Awesome video as usual.
10:10 That's very pretty. Hats off to the artist.
This was a fascinating video of the lineage of the Royal Tree. Your uploads always feature great information and wonderful art.
It truly makes me happy that Tolkien and I share the same love and appreciation for trees. I too wish I could speak with them.
Wow dude this was awesome. Thanks for all this! I can’t imagine how much research went into this
it makes my day everytime i watch a video of yours!
could you consider making a video on the high elves and why they are so porwerful?
He kind of skipped that part in today's video. The High Elves are more knowledgeable and powerful because they lived in the light of the Two Trees and got taught directly be the Valar.
@@Enerdhil thanks
Never get tired of watching this video. Thanks Matt!
The tale of the Ents and Entwives was sad. It's disappointing Quickbeam isn't mentioned travelling to look for them and new trees as his groves were destroyed by Saruman's forces. They say he's young for an Ent, and there's many places the Fellowship went to that may be interesting to him. Not sure why none of the Ents from Fangorn want to visit Lorien and why the Elves of Lorien don't want to visit Fangorn Forest?
Excellent job on this. Very well put together
That was a lovely presentation!
That was AWESOME! Another well told tale. Thank you.
Man the end of your episodes always bring a smile
Fantastic video, one of my favorites yet.
Another great presentation. Thank you.
So complex. But yet beautiful! Tolkien is a genius!
These videos are so well done!
I've watched and listened to every video and now feel the urge to comment to let you know this was a gooden!!! Thanks for all the content I'm soo hooked haha
I hit like before the second second even rolls around - I just know your videos are that good! 🙌🏻✨
Thank you so much for That, my the White Tree of Gondor forever bloom in Minas tirith and in our hearts
Why am I tearing up over fictional trees 🥺
Great video, like they always are. One comment tho, pretty sure that the two trees on the entrance to Moria, Durin's Gate (aka The Hollin Gate) are two ancient holly trees which were the symbol of the Elven kingdom of Eregion also known as Hollin.
Awesome video, one of your best!
I love the story of these trees, thank you for sharing it with us :)
I'm getting a tattoo of the White Tree in a few months.
Will it show up?
Sorry, bad white guy joke.🤪
@@Enerdhil I actually am getting it all black instead of like white or an outline
@@tonybaker1268
That'll be cool too.😁
Ah lovely. I needed trees today. Thank you.
Never knew I would love the backstory of a tree.
Thanks for another great video!
I love these Gondor related lore videos
Love the video. The two trees of Valinor are beautiful. I wish I could sit between the two trees.
Awesome job with this video!!!
Wow ! What a great video.
I learned so much about those two trees 😮
It will be fun to have a complete history of Orthanc too :o like the trees 😁
Congrats on over 300k subscribers!
A bit late, mohon maaf. Thanks for the content, really helps while teaching abroad in Indonesia during this crazy time.
I really enjoy all you're Amazing videos. Kudos👏👏👏
Would love to see a what if of what if the fellowship had never gone through Moria and made for the pass of Rohan instead
awesome vid Matt enjoyed it
Thanks 👍
So excited !
Never was a Lord of the Rings fan until I started watching your videos like 5 days ago... I just finished all the movies 😂, I've been getting high af at work marathoning your videos, keep up the good work doggy
Very well done. Superb.
Yes great video thanks :) Hoping for Feanor or Gil Galad next
Definitely! They're both on my list. Might start with Gil-galad since he ties nicely into the Second Age show. :)
@@NerdoftheRings
Don't forget Aeglos! 🙏
Epic! I love the trees!!
Is there enuf info to do content on the lamps? I love that era...also how time actually works bout then...maybe timelines ect wud be awsome!! 🤟
These videos are so good!
Imagine actually being in the presence of those tress 🥺🥺🥺
>Fans freaking out over the two trees
What fans? Most people have been dreading the series after all the news dropped about what they're doing.
8:54 I guess Gandalf was just that excited about the discovery...
"Who shall say how it comes here in the appointed hour?"
*cut to Gandalf 7 years earlier with a shovel and a seed*
"This is going to be a sick reveal."
That was a beautiful episode
I discovered i haven't been subscribed yet. I as ashamed of myself. How can i not subscribe to someone who makes such awesome videos?
Better late than never, my friend! 😄
@@NerdoftheRings but seriously keep it up. These videos are amazing
Trees. Beautiful trees.
ngl, I totally would have given a sapling to the Ents after the war of the ring. I feel like they would take care of it well.
Plus after all they've been through, they kind of need a pick me up anyway.
Awesome video! When describing the last alliance you mention that we know that elendil and anarion died in the battle. However you also removed the image of Gil-galad. Did he die in the battle as well?
He did indeed. He and Elendil died while fighting Sauron. th-cam.com/video/hbXvIORlprc/w-d-xo.html
@@NerdoftheRings Thanks!
Finally!!!! Thanks for that
Im glad i found this channel 😩🤟🏻✨
Long awaited video.
Great video!
Boromir wouldve loved it.
THAT was well done. Well done, indeed.