Orthodox Hoarders Of New York | Thy Father's Chair (Hoarders Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Abraham and Shraga, Orthodox Jewish twins, kept all of their belongings in their Brooklyn, New York, home after their parents died. The brothers must now plan to let go of the past with the help of a specialized cleaning company.
From Thy Father's Chair
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I love how kind and compassionate the cleaners are.
As someone who had a mess problem myself (sometimes have trouble cleaning up after myself due to severe fatigue), I was very grateful to them for being human. ❤️
Separation anxiety is real! The cleaning company should get double pay! Such patience and empathy shown here!
The amazing guy who runs this business needs an award for his patience. He is confrontational but gentle..yet strict. Amazing guy..we need more men like him.
The head cleaner is doing a good job trying to sort through the clutter in his house and in his head.. Respect
❤️
For real.
Outstanding service
Mental health professionals needed here
Plus their are not just hoarders...they are also DIRTY people.
Made me laugh
@Brantley Terrence I never heard of Flixzone. I watch Tubi and it has loads to choose from.
@Brantley Terrence Flixzone is a scam: Be careful.
This hoarding has been going on for years and years. These men need psychological and psychiatric help. This has nothing to do with religion nor wherever they live. It is a psychiatric disorder. I wish them well.
Yes. Cleaning it up is only a temporary fix. These people can't help their compulsion to hoard. This level of hoarding is serious and needs serious professional care. I also hope they can get that because without it their homes will return to this state in the next 5 to 10 years. It's a lifelong struggle but I wish them the best.
@Belltown Daisy I also thinks theirs is a patriarchal society, where one might be old-school, stubbornly, in their views of ``women's work?'' I mean, I am sure they try to be progressive in this area, but more might tend to fall ``thru the cracks'' because of this old-fashioned society.
@Elaine Male That is an interesting comment to me because I had a huge need for parental love. Yet I was very neat and organized as a child, and still am as a senior. I have often thought that since my world was out of control around me, I tried to control the little world of my belongings by cleaning and organizing them. So maybe different people handle things in different ways. So interesting. I have always been glad that I am not a hoarder.
@Belltown Daisy you misunderstood,
They burry Religious items (like books for example) only *instead* of throwing away. Only When ruined, of course items in good condition can be donated or sold or what ever..
In order to show respect to things that are considered holy/sacred.
You dont just throw away such respected items, instead - you put it in a grave.
But no one is actually digging a grave, its brought to the synagogue or other comunity centers and there os a place to put things, someone is burrying it all once in a while.
Kind of like recycling places.. ;)
Actually it's not It's been shown to be not a psychiatric disorder. It has to do with people getting too old to clean and in 95% of cases when the hoarder is given a cleaning lady months per week or twice per week the problem stops. A true psychiatric or mental illness is only treated by therapy and not by a cleaning lady. This guy is too old to clean. Who are we kidding? His kids should be over there doing it for them
The Israeli guy is so compassionate and thoughtful. Really nice documentary, I hope the man got some psychological assistance to help him get some perspective on the hoarding.
@@toniesedrick691 most Israeli’s actually come from the Middle East. This head cleaner with the Israeli accent is most definitely Mizrachi!
@@toniesedrick691 None of that nonsensical rambling is based on any truth or reality.
@@toniesedrick691 Not needed bud
@@mikiavidan508 yep!
I absolutely loved this very real poignant story. The brothers, cleaners, neighbors and cats. The patience, the kindness, professionalism and most of all lack of pretension. I could see and feel the history of this family in this house as the son shared a little here and there. A bittersweet honest story of life. Excellent production. I am saving it in favorites.
I tried to find out what happened after the cleaning. Unfortunately, Shraga passed away in 2016. I could not find much more information. I truly hope these brothers found some kind of peace and help. While I truly appreciate the work and spirit behind this documentary, I hope that people learn the importance of mental help, compassion, and community support. Something really bothers me about this, perhaps it’s because it’s because I feel for these men and I need to be part of the solution. Please check on your neighbors and try to understand that some people are suffering from mental illness.
Yes he looked so lost and sad...
Excellent digging skills and I appreciate the updated information. Please remind me, was Shraga the original brother, or his alcoholic twin? It's sad that he's passed away already.
I think if they had contacted his Rabbi , he perhaps would have helped the poor man to part with many things in the home.
At first I thought the cleaners were just hard-axx New Yorkers. By the end I was humbled by the compassion and insight they showed.
Hoarders often have experienced past trauma. Their mother walked out on them. Amazing the community has a wonderful team to help them.
Hoarders inflict trauma.
Easy Peasy.Such an amazing community,so why did it get to this stage?
Cleaning company are such compassionate and kind human beings🙏
Usually hoarding is caused by a trauma in someone's life. The trauma is a trigger! No one wants to live like this, this is a nightmare. I hope this man can get the help he needs otherwise he will continue hoarding. This is truly sad.
@I'm Back is she buying new stuff that someone could potentially use at one time or is it just stuff that she ramdomly picks on the street and garbage?
@I'm Back I think your wife lied to you about not being traumatized. She experienced something that made her think what she was doing was okay.
@I'm Back I understand what you are saying, but people keep secrets they are not proud of. Everybody has secrets and that includes some traumatic event. It could be anything to set you off. The human mind is very complicated.
@I'm Back Your ex-wife could have repressed the traumatic event, but still feel the impact of it and express it through the hoarding. Or she could unlikely just have the mental illness without the trauma. Either way, she needed psychological help.
@I'm Back Sounds more like an obsessive compulsive disorder then. Or some other related psychological issue.
The clearing and cleaning is one thing ... the patience required another...gotta hand it to these amazing professionals dealing with this.
Susan L I think these cleaners are the same people one would call for a crime scene cleanup. They same used to it all.
I think the most challenging aspect for me would be attitude.. one of them at least has the decency to say hello, goodbye, please, and thank you.
@@MegaSmk Yes. You would have to go into expecting NOTHING ... or worse ... and be thrilled if someone whispers 'Thank you"
@@susanl8478 true. now that I've finished watching: one of the brothers, the one with the alcohol problem, was actually quite decent and expressed his gratitude. I also like the fact that he made an effort at some kind of intercultural exchange with his helpers on a personal level. looked to me like the other brother looked down on the helpers and would hardly give those not from his culture the time of day. but, what do we know? everybody has their reasons. thanks for your reply, and have a nice day.
@@MegaSmk Ha Yes ... we are all peculiar in our own way. I imagine the internal struggle inside themselves over their desire to hang on to the 'stuff' and knowing it isn't 'normal' or healthy puts them in a crisis that I can not imagine or really appreciate. Take care.
Found this fascinating. The guys helping are so kind.
Yes those young men had a lot of patience and sympathy
I'm such a skeptic that I wondered if was the crew was the same after the camera was off. They seemed genuine though.
@@carmenmonoxide7459, who paid for this???
This cleaning company is amazing....mad love to these guys
I thought this was a fascinating documentary (great camerawork btw), full of wonderful human beings. The Jewish twin brothers are fascinating.
The twin brothers are definitely on the spectrum. From what I gathered very intelligent yet their OCD or perhaps autism traits are making life very hard for them both (& their neighbours 😬).
Thank you TH-cam for sending this my way. ❤️
Thanks @Real Stories, thank you nice people of New York, for helping these gentlemen out, and hats down to the hard working generosity of the gentlemen that worked hard to clean the place and showed there love and compassion 👍🏼👊🏼✌🏼
Absolutely. Outstanding.
This has gotta be the most random notification I’ll get all week.
@Clarissa ::: Me too! After watching, I'm going to give random notifications a chance.
If I lived near them I would willingly clean their home on a regular basis. The brothers are amazing humans.
This is a great documentary! Feel like a lot of coverage on the topic of hoarding is dramatize to no end, but the people in this feel like they're human. They have their flaws, they push back a little bit, but they understand they need this to happen to get better. I hope they are doing well, and I have to give props to the head cleaner. Convincing hoarders to let go of their stuff is hard.
Looks like some time had passed with snow on the ground at the end and his place is still pretty clean, he gets to enjoy reading and spending time with his cats. Mazel tov!
Very sweet epilogue
I feel bad for this gentleman wish him well-being.
Me too!
This is so touching 💧. The brothers’ humour reminds me of Woody Allen. At 46:55 when the cleaner explained that the bug that had just crawled into the mattress would have a family living in there, one brother said, “ He’s doing better than me !”
🤣🤣🤣 I loved that line as well
This was so compelling. I’ve never seen a hoard photographed so beautifully.
You said what I felt so neatly.
Poor man , he’s been eaten by bed bugs for a long time.And what a great cleaning team ! Amazing people!
Expensive fumigate bed bugs
Watching this made me feel such saddness. To see them so sad and lonley. Wow so grateful for my life.
I hope the guys with the HCH company are making a really, really good salary. The toilets, everything in that house was SO disgusting.
That poor poor man - full respect for those helping.
What sweet men.. ALL of them. What Sweet men.
This one REALLY moved my heart.
The horder brothets have such beautiful dreamy eyes
The guys cleaning up are really great, handling this delicate situation so well. The Supervisor is from the Motherland, very straightforward and get things done👍
They should have a rabbi there to calm the brothers, support them in their distress.
I actually feared they were going to find a corpse somewhere under all of that, especially after all that talk about the mysterious second floor 😳
Great documentary, thank you🌷🌷🌷🌷
I would guess that Rabbi and Jewish people have tried to help .It is an awful illness .
@@betsymartin4709 True, it's not easy to be around people who are struggling but one has to help nevertheless. The company of a rabbi or someone from the temple could have helped them cope emotionally through the process.
I think he's actually israeli
@@lorenfulghum2393 The Supervisor is definitely Israeli, most likely with some military experience.
@@theresenydahl9531 lol that is every adult israeli!
Meanwhile he is getting bitten so bad, his arms look like that. I pray I never end up like this.
Me to im taking my health serious as possible...
It made me cry. I understand I feel sad and I respect. It meant a lot to me.
Very touching. The cleaners had patients of a saint. I could see the pain in the brothers eyes! Sad.
What a nice group of cleaners. They are so respectful and compassionate but yet strict. Hope this guys get some help to keep the house clean!
I think this is overwhelming for these brothers. They need a counselor. The workers are very patient.
These poor men. I imagine we see only a fraction of the distress they are feeling. I hope they can get psychiatric help to deal with their trauma. Respect to the cleaners who were very respectful and tried to give them some control over the loss of their hoard. Very sad
The cleaners were amazing in every way & patience of saints...good job!
40:45 This part hits hard. I didn't expect him to be doubting his faith.
These two brothers are so sweet..God bless them. This ws a random thing tht came up and I loved it..the cleaners were super kind.
I need a life coach like that head cleaner. Gets it done!
I felt compelled to watch, as hard as it was. Cudos to the cleaners. The referrence to gas masks at the end is chilling, considering the history. I wish him and his brothers well.
They have a huge house it's actually a lovely house it's right out of the 40's/50's like a time capsule.
I don't know why but I love this. This is Art.
I was really afraid to see a lot of antisemitism in the comments, but everyone is so nice and respectful
Hey! I'm soo sorry you feel this way.....nobody should feel this way and nobody should especially be targeted with antisemitism for clearly struggling with mental issues...
Wow I didn't realize they were twin brothers til half way thru 🤣🤣
They should have mental health professionals there to help the men get through this.
The workers are really thoughtful and affable
People are people and that cuts across all Ethnic and racial lines, very touching documentary
Amazing doc! I truly wish this man and family the best.
He seems so frustrated lost and scared. I feel so compelled to try to help in some way. There are hoarders in my family. I understand how traumatic the last cleanout was for my mother. She 'just filled the house again. They really can't help how they are.
Btw, I used to think I was a hoarder, a friend set me straight and told me I wasn’t,
But I’ve had trouble cleaning up and tidying up after myself for many years because I had severe fatigue and depression, so the fatigue made me “lazy” and I couldn’t take care of myself, I had to prioritize cleaning myself of the house and the house always lost…
But then, people ask how people can live like that and not notice..
emotional trauma and depression will do that to you and after a few years you just learn to ignore it…
But I’ve never been able to have people over, and when I had a boyfriend I cleaned and he claimed my house was still dirty because I worked two jobs with fatigue and a chronic illness and he was “taking” my nights from me, which was nice, but I was even more exhausted. So ever since we broke up I haven’t been able to show anyone my home or my room..
I share a lot of shame with hoarders…
And I won’t let anyone clean for me because I’m ashamed of what they say when they find out how I live.
Now I’m dealing with stage 4 cancer and before I dealt with severe endometriosis, which was an unacknowleged condition for many decades… so I now live in filth because I’m in too much pain to clean it up, but I can’t let anyone see how I live so they can come clean for me, so I’m alone.
It’s really sad and tragic..
I feel for hoarders so much… 💔
The Israeli guy is extremely good at his job
what? spying?
@@afganno3385 lol now your just randomly hating on the guy … based on the vid, he is clearing out the property and dealing with the clients very well - despite his religious or cultural beliefs/customs.
We are all just ppl navigating thru this world, one day we will all be judged for what we have done on this earth … if we all strive to be the best humans we can be, it will serve us through our time on this earth and after we pass away.
One of the worst things on this earth, on the other hand is Afghan No 3 … that stuff has ruined lives and communities for centuries now … God bless us all …
An exquisite production. Every aspect of this was deeply moving.
Hoarding is a very serious issue. It's been finally has been classified in recent years as an official mental illness. I wish some people would delve beyond the hoard and treat the root cause. It's always some type of trauma (death, abuse, divorce, etc) that kicks off the behavior. It's worse when the person have had the tendency before the trauma occurs.
The music at the end is so haunting........so sad!!!!!!!
When a grown man picks his nose and wipes it on the chair-back right next to his face, mid-sentence, on camera....
I didn’t watch long enough to see that. I’m finding the comments more interesting than the video
@@chiphebert2509 lol
OMG I just realised the magnitude of the hoarding when the person filming had the camera on one of the brothers sitting in a chair I believe was the lounge room he was Absolutely surrounded in stuff and the room behind him the stuff had spilled out into the lounge room he was sitting in.
Jeez what a hoard !
A lot of their behavioural traits indicate that this gentleman and his brother might score highly for ASD. On that basis I don’t think the hoarding behaviour is as simple as being eradicated through therapy as many people are suggesting. I do think their culture is relevant though due to the quid rigid traditional gender roles within an Orthodox Jewish household. It is likely that the son’s will have been nurtured by their Mother, with regards to keeping the household, until she was no longer able to do so.
You could see that the clear out was distressing for them both though despite them admitting that it was a load of old tat that had sat there for ages when they were challenged! I completely agree with the 2nd twin’s comment though, about how once you’ve made something permissible, then that’s it, the behaviour is often hard to reverse.
Think I need to watch something to mend my heart because that main guy struck me as being way too lonely 😔.
The one brother's face watching the sludge coming from the carpet steamer was amazing
Wonderful doc, thank you for sharing.
The cleaner said the bedbug knows to go in the hole because it has a family and eggs in there and Abe said “he’s doin better than me” 😫😫
Tht ws devastating.
and he said it really quickly as soon as he heard he has a family and kids in there...😔
@@robs5718 Awww
@@angelabell8725 ☺⚘
Hoarding is done because of emotional trauma, I’m not saying this is his case, but I knew a lady in Israel, her name is Agnes, a Hungarian Jewish lady, eccentric and very lonely.. she’d come to the theater where I worked at the Boxoffice and we would talk about music.
She was very eccentric.
One day, my coworker sent me an internet article about a crazy hoarder, about how they’d just made the city clear her house without her permission.
Then it clicked: a week before she came over and told us she was robbed and that her house was empty. I gave her my phone number to call if she felt lonely, I was afraid to give my number to a stranger, you never know.. she never used it..
She turned out to be a hoarder because her mom was a Holocaust survivor.
They took all her stuff from her once at Auschwitz, so she never threw anything away ever again…
When I found out, it was because they showed her facial profile on the internet and made an entire article out of the crazy hoarder lady and the smells and sounds and what they found... And everyone at my job was laughing at her, and I was just sitting there and crying because she told me her story in several parts and when I added it all up I realized why she would become a hoarder…
Broke my heart..
She even has a hugs dreadlock hanging from her hair, because she can’t even fathom cutting her hair for the same reason if the holocaust trauma…
Second generation holocaust trauma is way too real…
If this is Brooklyn, these apartments are so similar to the apartments on 37 Warren St, in Corona Queens, NY. Crazy man... Brings alot of memory.
Captivating. So different when I,ve been watching Hoarders and Only Human: Hoarding.
35:16 seeing everything in such disarray and the megilla in perfect condition brought tears to my eyes. There's a story there... why do they have a megilla? They're probably not reading for other people. It's for themselves, because they have to hear the megilla read from the scroll on purim every year. Perhaps they don't go to synagogue (or anywhere outside) anymore?
What a story! Thank You!
They scratch, I scratch... they shake, I shake... they get mad, I cry...
Wonderful loving brothers, just need some help.
Loving and beautiful person he is.
I felt bad for the men, seems like they need more people in their lives, because as you age, so many criends and family die, leaving a huge gap that needs filled. I have lost most friend's and family as I am older, it is hard. I was glad they were going to bury, and not burn the religious books, that was a nice gesture, from some nice men. I hope someone comes to see these men to help them. May God guide them to all truth.
I cleaned foreclosure houses for Freddie Mac to ready for the market, and using a rake and shovel are fast essential tools for cleaning debris.
A rake and shovel also works for teen boys
They seem nice but once a habit is learned, it’s hard to change!
Not a habit, a disorder
It’s trauma / ptsd based
My heart just grew a little bigger.
Me too
The cleaners are top notch professionals. Very compassionate and kind.
The problem is , 6 mths down the track, it will be back to how it was ... :(
That's only true if there is no aftercare and continued therapy to control the tendency.
@@joellebrodeur1015 they have to want to change...easier said than done
Cleaning the hoard is one thing and the cleaner's are great however if they don't get some kind of mental help they will continue to hoard . I pray they get the help they need.
He feels like he will need that garbage later . My grandma is the same, but she grow up on powerty so you can understand her
The guy needs daily home care. Sad that the brother begrudges inviting him for Yom Tovs.
There are two guys, twins, living in the apartment. The man who didn't want to invite them was their upstairs neighbor who had previously cleaned the twin's hoard.
He needs a housekeeper, his mother probably did everything for them.
He needs to learn to be responsible for himself so his self respect comes back,
No their mother walked out on them. Which prob caused the trauma that caused the hoarding to start. Your comment is very insensitive. Maybe say nothing at all is better than spitting out such BS.
@@leannesmith5818 don’t you get it...it’s a mental disorder caused by trauma.
@@doreenplischke7645 You are very rude.
Most likely, in a traditional Hasidic family. His mother & then his wife would deal with these things.
I can't help hearing Alan Alda every time the twins speak.
GOD bless them both. My heart aches for them.
Beautiful cat.....and SWEET STORY...
They actually have a beautiful house and built-ins. Need spruce and Renovation, will look fine.
He has a lot of insight, when he said I'm alone and I feel intimidated by you.
So glad he kept it clean! 🤗
Sometimes it’s hard to understand for a non native english speaker. I wish him the best!
I am a native English speaker and I could not understand half of this
Lol. They have quite thick Brooklyn NY accents. And also stutter a bit. I only understand them because I live in the US east coast. But I have a difficult time understanding various British accents. Lol
Maybe the closed captions might help. They’re not always 100% right, but they can still be useful 💖
@@niax6920 thank you☺️♥️
@@busra5257 You’re very welcome 🦋
As a fellow Jew this breaks my heart. They have a beautiful place and it could be a paradise right there we they are.
WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE OF MENTAL HEALTH IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND HELP EACH OTHER WITH IT!
I lived in the house of a jewish friend who was just like them. even the cats part they were easy going in comparison to him when it came to throw away even a flyer from a pizza shop
I was impressed by how calm and polite they remained through the whole process. Not like other people I have seen on hoarding shows.
@@carolynwalls6787 You’re right. It had the feel of another time and place
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
As a New Yorker/ Brooklynite, I knew this had to be Crown Heights (on the edge of East Flatbush). If the front yard was a mess, i think I've passed this house many of times due to my mother-in-law living in the area. They cleaned up years ago so at some point, they came to their senses. The great thing about the Hasidic community is that they help each other out regardless of the circumstances & they have huge tight-knit families. This was interesting.
I was really curious about what the "megillah squirrel" was going to look like. Oh...scroll...not squirrel.
What sweet guys. I hope they were able to hang on and keep their place clean.
My heart is breaking.
I noticed that it appears that the majority of commenters don’t realize that this story is actually about two grown men that are twins. It’s not just one man lol.
and great result well done guys ❤☮❤
Stop being silly first blah blah so ignorant, it's a gentleman that is being helped, and needs help. Bless the people that are helping this gentleman.
Imagine, all the work these men are doing and they keep a bag for loose change to give to the old man. This is ironic... God Bless these who clean up after others with no, " thank you's"......
That apartment is huge
Some men are lost without women.
Sooo true and some women are lost without men.
great reveal when you find out they are twins
I had to lose context clues to figure out which one was which I got so lost hahah