It’s actually pretty funny how that shot managed to surprisingly ricochet right off the tank like it did in the movie. We all know that shell had no business doing that, but it’s almost as if dumb luck really does exist 😂
Awesome video. May I suggest that for future videos, a scoreboard of how many tanks/airplanes remaining is placed in a corner of the screen, to keep track easier of how many are left. Thanks ^^
The director knew about how the tiger 1 shouldve shot the leading tank then the last in the collumn but said in that "If he had killed the leading tank that brad pitt was in, roll credits"
I always think that they could have simply put him in another place, like even in reality I wouldn't have put the best sherman to lead the group. But maybe there is a reason.
@@FM-tw9sb well he wasnt in the front at first, the lead sherman was destroyed by a panzerfaust and then Fury had to take the lead. I dont remember but im also sure that War Daddy was in command of that tank collumn after the panzerfaust incident
The Chieftan actually commented on this scene. His explanation was that German doctrine at the time was to take action over inaction. Seeing as the Tiger had its position covered with smoke and could not longer see, it had to move to continue engaging. He also stated that if anyone made poor decisions it was the Sherman's for not splitting up and attempting to engage on multiple fronts from the very beginning. Side note, it was Tiger 1 in Fury, not a King Tiger(Tiger 2)
Thanks for your comment and interesting to know. Also the purpose of this vid was to demonstrate what would happen if Fury faced a king Tiger instead of a Tiger like the scene to see if the outcome would have been any different
You should recreate Fury, but with vehicles of different countries, like how would a couple T-34s with 76s and one 85 do or how’d a couple Cromwells do, etc
Could you do the third round again, yet with all the Shermans having to parade around the map only on roads, with the tigers waiting to ambush them at their own leisure?
urban maps will help increase the chances of the shermans because the germans are forced to brawl in close combat where the sherman cannons can be effective, if it was a field map, it would be a point and click adventure for the german tigers
It'd be cool too if it were multiple Sherman platoons entering a map with Tigers assigned to ambush them as they'd run along. Having simultaneous confrontations and probably multiple engagements throughout would produce a variety of outcomes.
The Germans will absolutely dominate because they have impenetrable frontal armour on hull and turret while Sherman’s are easy to pen and have no cover
Unfortunately, gyro stabilizers were such new state of the art technology, that the War Department had the ‘brilliant” idea of Not Training their Tank Gunners how to use them, and not issuing instructional or technical manuals with the tanks… For fear of the technology falling into Enemy hands…. So the overwhelming majority of M4 Tankers in WW2 either dismounted the gyros first chance they got, or simply never used them. The US War Department has a history of thrusting new and experimental weapons onto their soldiers, but refusing to actually train them how to use them, (M4 Gyros) Clean them (early M16s) or holding them in reserve, negating any tactical advantage they might have gained in battle. (Browning Automatic Rifles)
i just see a lil detail,the main tank wasn't a normal sherman firefly,it was a M4A2E8,it's like an uprgarded sherman with the 75mm newer gun and the modern suspension of the time,it was allso provided by a tank museum in great britain
It’s got a bigger 76mm the fire fly had a longer 75mm this easy 8 with the 76mm was a big deal it could finally penetrate the nazis armor same with over in the Korean War is Americans used it over there and it was fantastic most of our men preferred that over the bigger m26 Pershing with the 90mm because the m26 transmission and engine were weak af had a hard time in the mountains over in Korea ! Due to the fact the Pershing literally entered the war at the end it didn’t get much field testing so they would realize the transmission problems until Korea since the land isn’t very flat there in Korea
Mr. Muffin. Idk how you do it, but these videos are amazing! When ever I have a bad day at WarThunder. Seeing these in the feed remind that the game can be fun. Keep up the amazing work, love the new setup of these battle videos!
I just have found your channel and its bloody awesome. I tried searching tips about warthunder anywhere and there isn't good videos that are formal. Can you make a tutorial about this game? I'm just got on Tiger but Idk any technical details. Anyway i'm subbing, too good videos HAHA.
Thanks and to be honest I don’t do a lot of tutorials but my second channel of war thunder best replays has gameplay from the war thunder community that helped me a lot when watching what other good players do if that helps:)
well some instructions and diagrams were included in the Tigerfibel (Tiger 1 Manual) which basically boiled down to: angling shows the enemy armour they can't penetrate. in other words, angle the tank. though as far as i know the tiger is the only tank where angling was explicitly taught, so you are right that it's not common
Tank doctrine dictates......First shot, lead tank....second shot, rear tank.....then clean up the middle. Maintain distance because of greater velocity and firing range.
Would have been nice to see the Tiger 2's perspective on the non-pen to see what kind of shell he used. He may have used HE or HEAT just to keep the tank alive and finish the reenactment. But I guess the good old "War Thunder sucks" joke was too easy to pass up. Also would have liked to see the hit camera at the very least.
in fury the tank "fury" be to have the 75 mm cannon instead of the easy eight that seen in the movie so the tiger scene was written as tho "fury" had a 75 mm cannon.
Let’s face it… if it was a real scenario, brad Pitt and his crew would of been the first to die, followed by the rear tank and crew. Then the two trapped and confused in the middle.. end of movie…
This was a cool video, I love playing the Sherman at that BR just cause it’s so satisfying to kill these Titian’s, I found out tho the the Tiger 2 H is literally impregnable from the front, even with HVAP round. The only exception ain’t very good and it’s the machine gunners port🤣
She the thing is with the tanks of tigers we weren’t able to get the exact measurement of armor we weren’t able to simulate the exact hardness of the armor
The Fury scene becomes more realistic with a Tiger 2 Edit: Tiger 1 would be a goner at the first 76mm hit. But the Tiger 2 kept its frontal invincibility.
I think you were a bit harsh imagining the shots the tiger could have hit as in real life, there are many more part inaccuracies and miscalculations than in WT.
Angling intentionally wasn’t really a thing in ww2 as you don’t really know where all the enemies are. For all you know you’re already angled where your periscope is facing. And then you follow commands from the commander. Not your brain meats.
The tiger didn’t angle In the film because they were using a real legitimate king tiger the last in existence and turning it was believed it would damage its treads
Although the armor is 102 mm thick, the production of Tiger 1's armor It is as flexible and high quality as ordinary steel armor up to 130-140 mm thick. War thunder haven't system quality armour because for balance game. Sometimes simulation games just don't prove comparable to reality.
i think you should decide more if you want show a simulation on a open field or in a city and don't mix them up so much. There is a big difference. Ofcause the weaker tanks have much more chance in the city cause they can hide and atack from close distance where they can pen them. I would find the final round more interesting if they would stay on opfen field to compare it better to the other rounds. Btw. i would find it great when you repeat the match tiger 1 vs Abrams in a city. I think in the city the tiger would win in this majority
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It’s actually pretty funny how that shot managed to surprisingly ricochet right off the tank like it did in the movie. We all know that shell had no business doing that, but it’s almost as if dumb luck really does exist 😂
It actually shot instead of AP ,it is recognizable by the way the shell reacted w/ the armor
That 1st part though was basically an entire recreation unintentionally XD Beautiful I gotta say.
It was entirely intentional lmfao shot for shot
@@wonghy1115except the part where the tiger 2 somehow non penned the Sherman 76
@@humanhuman5024 didn't that happen i nthe film? in that same spot or something
@@wonghy1115 it was not supposed to happen in game though
@@humanhuman5024 mhm
Awesome video. May I suggest that for future videos, a scoreboard of how many tanks/airplanes remaining is placed in a corner of the screen, to keep track easier of how many are left. Thanks ^^
I second this motion.
This
ditto
5:56
Muffin: How?!
Warthunder: Magic
I think he ues HEAT shell.
The director knew about how the tiger 1 shouldve shot the leading tank then the last in the collumn but said in that "If he had killed the leading tank that brad pitt was in, roll credits"
I always think that they could have simply put him in another place, like even in reality I wouldn't have put the best sherman to lead the group. But maybe there is a reason.
@@FM-tw9sb well he wasnt in the front at first, the lead sherman was destroyed by a panzerfaust and then Fury had to take the lead. I dont remember but im also sure that War Daddy was in command of that tank collumn after the panzerfaust incident
@@thejason1054it was a M18 at the lead not a sherman
@@Tripintrios Are you fucking high?
@@Tripintrios are you fucking high
I love how in the movie the Tiger hitting the side of the Sherman should have killed it, and in the game it did the same thing lmao.
Sometimes luck is just on your side lol.
@@Gutenburg100in the case it’s literally on his “side”
Beautiful editing muffin, was a very fun event to partake in. Thanks for the little shout out also :)
Who has won the final round, shermans or tigers?
The Chieftan actually commented on this scene. His explanation was that German doctrine at the time was to take action over inaction. Seeing as the Tiger had its position covered with smoke and could not longer see, it had to move to continue engaging. He also stated that if anyone made poor decisions it was the Sherman's for not splitting up and attempting to engage on multiple fronts from the very beginning. Side note, it was Tiger 1 in Fury, not a King Tiger(Tiger 2)
Thanks for your comment and interesting to know. Also the purpose of this vid was to demonstrate what would happen if Fury faced a king Tiger instead of a Tiger like the scene to see if the outcome would have been any different
Man did u even read the video title?
@@Swagmaster07 honestly tho like wtf dude read the video title? And awesome video thunder with muffin definitely gonna sub
truth be told the shermans or really any tank are always going to be at a disadvantage caught out in a field like that.
And they were to hit the lead tank first then the rear one , trapping them and once 76s and fireflys were main targets
You should recreate Fury, but with vehicles of different countries, like how would a couple T-34s with 76s and one 85 do or how’d a couple Cromwells do, etc
Awesome. Now do this again but replace the tiger 2 with an IS-7.
Could you do the third round again, yet with all the Shermans having to parade around the map only on roads, with the tigers waiting to ambush them at their own leisure?
urban maps will help increase the chances of the shermans because the germans are forced to brawl in close combat where the sherman cannons can be effective, if it was a field map, it would be a point and click adventure for the german tigers
That would be fun!
It'd be cool too if it were multiple Sherman platoons entering a map with Tigers assigned to ambush them as they'd run along. Having simultaneous confrontations and probably multiple engagements throughout would produce a variety of outcomes.
The Germans will absolutely dominate because they have impenetrable frontal armour on hull and turret while Sherman’s are easy to pen and have no cover
It would be a massacre
This was such a fun video to record, minus delays lol. I can’t WAIT for the SPAA. Great vid muffin!
If the tiger commander was smart in the movie he would’ve destroyed the E8 Sherman first to get rid of the main characters
Sherman had gyro stabilizers which hold the gun stable up to 5-10 mph i believe
it only really helped to be able to shoot first after stopping
16 kph isnt much
@@zjanez2868 it was a lot more at that time
Unfortunately, gyro stabilizers were such new state of the art technology, that the War Department had the ‘brilliant” idea of Not Training their Tank Gunners how to use them, and not issuing instructional or technical manuals with the tanks… For fear of the technology falling into Enemy hands…. So the overwhelming majority of M4 Tankers in WW2 either dismounted the gyros first chance they got, or simply never used them.
The US War Department has a history of thrusting new and experimental weapons onto their soldiers, but refusing to actually train them how to use them, (M4 Gyros) Clean them (early M16s) or holding them in reserve, negating any tactical advantage they might have gained in battle. (Browning Automatic Rifles)
i just see a lil detail,the main tank wasn't a normal sherman firefly,it was a M4A2E8,it's like an uprgarded sherman with the 75mm newer gun and the modern suspension of the time,it was allso provided by a tank museum in great britain
It’s got a bigger 76mm the fire fly had a longer 75mm this easy 8 with the 76mm was a big deal it could finally penetrate the nazis armor same with over in the Korean War is Americans used it over there and it was fantastic most of our men preferred that over the bigger m26 Pershing with the 90mm because the m26 transmission and engine were weak af had a hard time in the mountains over in Korea ! Due to the fact the Pershing literally entered the war at the end it didn’t get much field testing so they would realize the transmission problems until Korea since the land isn’t very flat there in Korea
@@Tyler_Flynn28 thx for the info!
i shure missed some details
Mr. Muffin. Idk how you do it, but these videos are amazing! When ever I have a bad day at WarThunder. Seeing these in the feed remind that the game can be fun. Keep up the amazing work, love the new setup of these battle videos!
Great video! Modern AA against ww2 planes might also be cool?
Yep and already in the works being made:)
This is a great idea lmao
What if Fury was made by war thunder players. By that I mean Maus vs 1945 vehicles from USA
Luckily for you, there's already a video that muffin made of this exact scenario. Slight spoilers; the Maus doesn't do so hot
@@GustSergeant “sLigHt SpOiLeRs” *spoils the video*
Nice editing. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING DISCORD VOICES
a good idea that i think of for one of your video, would be to do a big caliber vs small caliber challenge
Fun fact that is tiger 131 and I've had the pleasure of siting in it and getting a ride same as the fury sherman
6:46 naaaaaaah, that laugh is something unique 👏🤣
bro is just having better and better ideas man like whole fury scene wth
Know one gonna say how the E8 was having a hard time trying to get around the tiger 2 when it was reversing? Lol
Ah yes a warthuder youtuber judging a Holly wood movie
I guess that’s me now lol
@@ThunderWithMuffin I don't judge I almost raged when I saw the movie
I just have found your channel and its bloody awesome. I tried searching tips about warthunder anywhere and there isn't good videos that are formal. Can you make a tutorial about this game? I'm just got on Tiger but Idk any technical details.
Anyway i'm subbing, too good videos HAHA.
Thanks and to be honest I don’t do a lot of tutorials but my second channel of war thunder best replays has gameplay from the war thunder community that helped me a lot when watching what other good players do if that helps:)
Lots of good warthunder channels out there that do that my friend
my all time favorite movie
Fury is a fun movie to watch, if you can suspend belief/don't know much about tanks. But yeah if you think of IRL...it hurts.
omg, really nice ! Good job !
I don’t think angling armor was common for tanks in that era. That is what people nowadays do in video games
well some instructions and diagrams were included in the Tigerfibel (Tiger 1 Manual) which basically boiled down to: angling shows the enemy armour they can't penetrate. in other words, angle the tank.
though as far as i know the tiger is the only tank where angling was explicitly taught, so you are right that it's not common
It only took 2 hours to complete filming :)) i was there
Same, I was lamosamo67. It took ages. Mostly to find the right tanks lol
R.I.P urkindadead you did well and 1 of the best Sherman users in this vid
Only difference is that this 76 Sherman actually had to close the gap since it can’t pen king tiger frontally, only from the side and rear
This is why a King Tiger should've been there, fighting Fury with at least 19 other Shermans.
That was a fun event hope to be part of more in the future
You kicked ass in round 3 man, I was one of the tiger 2’s in that one
@@Lamosamo67 yea I enjoyed it a lot.
Good movie and good recreation
Ok movie
Tank doctrine dictates......First shot, lead tank....second shot, rear tank.....then clean up the middle. Maintain distance because of greater velocity and firing range.
I missed this event but i was able to join as a geopard in the next one
Let's hope another movie will use the only working King Tiger tank today.
Would have been nice to see the Tiger 2's perspective on the non-pen to see what kind of shell he used. He may have used HE or HEAT just to keep the tank alive and finish the reenactment. But I guess the good old "War Thunder sucks" joke was too easy to pass up. Also would have liked to see the hit camera at the very least.
in fury the tank "fury" be to have the 75 mm cannon instead of the easy eight that seen in the movie so the tiger scene was written as tho "fury" had a 75 mm cannon.
Tiger in Fury is basically 5.7 Wittmann wannabes in War Thunder so it’s actually accurate.. to a certain extent 😂
This looks awesome my guy!
Now let's see what happens if they faced against a maus (Troll)
Let’s face it… if it was a real scenario, brad Pitt and his crew would of been the first to die, followed by the rear tank and crew. Then the two trapped and confused in the middle.. end of movie…
Very cool shallow deflection is a thing even in warthhunder
Awesome video. Very happy i was able to see myself😁😁😁
Idc what is nitpicked about its unrealistic parts, the movie fury is an awesome one
1:15 to take out the rear tank was also an accepted method. Should have still gone for the 76mm sherman though
I honestly expected the shermans to stomp the tigers in the last bit, they just can’t pen the T2H from the frontal arc.
This is awesome
Fury would work with a Tiger 1 EASILY if the German tankers wouldn‘t be that stupid in the movie.
muffin, try a high tier spaa like the 2a6 or adats and have a swarm of biplanes and othe 1.0-2.0 fighters
Already in the works of being made:)
6:00 he most likely used he muffin
Wow this one is well made ❤
This was a cool video, I love playing the Sherman at that BR just cause it’s so satisfying to kill these Titian’s, I found out tho the the Tiger 2 H is literally impregnable from the front, even with HVAP round. The only exception ain’t very good and it’s the machine gunners port🤣
It’s sad that the fury in the recreations was a M4A2 and not the M4A3 like it should be.
It was the M4A3
@@ThunderWithMuffin in your video it is a M4A2 that was used
Fury is an M4A2E8 so technically, its impossible to recreate in WT cause the M4A2 76 W has vvss not hvss like Fury did
@@Bifferpag the Fury is not a m4a2 it is a m4a3
@@TetrumRiot Historically, it should be an M4A3 but the one in the film is an M4A2 chassis
That last sherman was a hero
She the thing is with the tanks of tigers we weren’t able to get the exact measurement of armor we weren’t able to simulate the exact hardness of the armor
Maybe Brad Pitt was playing War thunder
The Fury scene becomes more realistic with a Tiger 2
Edit: Tiger 1 would be a goner at the first 76mm hit. But the Tiger 2 kept its frontal invincibility.
you should always put the discord conversation so that it would be more fun
This is the exact situation where flanking DOES make sense. The 76mm could easily penetrate Tiger I's frontal armour.
It is unrealistic not to have a Sherman can one shot ore Penetrate an Tiger 2 it's Impossible
Tiger Ace (Michael Wittman)
V.s
Fury with 2 M4 Sherman (S)
realistically, there wouldn't be any americans or germans shouting orders in war thunder, rather, it would be 'capture the c point'
the commander of the Tiger in Fury thinks this was World of Tanks, cuz he always shoot tanks wothout knowing the weaker panels
Maybe the commander of the tiger tank is the first breed that say "GeRmAnY SuFfErS"
This is awesomeee
For the next video ostwind 2 vs low tier tanks (m2a4, pz35..)
You guys are the best
10:50 mans not even angling lol
Good job holding up tiger
I think you were a bit harsh imagining the shots the tiger could have hit as in real life, there are many more part inaccuracies and miscalculations than in WT.
0:49 why hè didint shoot while hè was standing still is because the was smoke so hè couldn't see
5:57 me in every match of WT ever
epic video :)
Angling intentionally wasn’t really a thing in ww2 as you don’t really know where all the enemies are. For all you know you’re already angled where your periscope is facing.
And then you follow commands from the commander. Not your brain meats.
It would be so cool if they did fight a king tiger
The tiger didn’t angle In the film because they were using a real legitimate king tiger the last in existence and turning it was believed it would damage its treads
7:00
There was only one thing and it was that in the first scene the tiger was supposed to reverse
that was so good !!!
You forgot another factor. Warthunder German bias as well. In addition, warthunder is going to do whatever it wants too (not pen when it can pen).
can you recreate the canyon dogfight of topgun Maverick? (there aren't Su-57 so i thought about the last ones )
Basically angling the tank is not a thing in ww2 tankers or modern tankers
I hope to see early cold war jets vs ww2 planes :))
Yes
Although the armor is 102 mm thick, the production of Tiger 1's armor It is as flexible and high quality as ordinary steel armor up to 130-140 mm thick. War thunder haven't system quality armour because for balance game. Sometimes simulation games just don't prove comparable to reality.
This is genius!
I need to watch fury ngl
Now this is how the game should be not WW2 tanks fighting 60's tanks
3rd round all the tigers should have retreated to higher ground outside of the city and just pick them off one by one
I know this was a bit ago, but the Easy 8 should have been an M4A3 instead of an M4A2.
Hell yeah!
i think you should decide more if you want show a simulation on a open field or in a city and don't mix them up so much. There is a big difference. Ofcause the weaker tanks have much more chance in the city cause they can hide and atack from close distance where they can pen them. I would find the final round more interesting if they would stay on opfen field to compare it better to the other rounds.
Btw. i would find it great when you repeat the match tiger 1 vs Abrams in a city. I think in the city the tiger would win in this majority
Round 1 was literally the movie But it was tiger 2 And that shot from tiger 2 Didn't kill The fury tank Like Bro The plot armor 💀
Next : The danger zone operation ?
Bruh that’s he that hit the Sherman
Brad pitt’s tank was a M4A3 76 not a M4A2 with a 76
I just wanna say, to that Tiger that teamkilled me, why?