Please don't build pyro in your basement. Insurance isn't going to cover your loss if something goes wrong. A HF press can be made to work (at least on a most basic level), but they tend to not be square or rigid enough to handle the forces exerted during pressing. I've repaired countless tool sets damaged or destroyed by HF presses bending when under load. As with any other tool, buy the good stuff once and it will last the rest of your life...
I need to join a pyro club. The consumer level artillery shells I buy at your average fireworks stand just isn't cutting it anymore. I remember when I was a teenager we all went to Rosarito, Mexico and bought some fireworks that were wrapped in cardboard and brown paper material. We set one off and it shot straight up in the air and when it went off it legitimately sounded like an 81mm mortar going off (I'm infantry in army) and it shook the glass on the highrise buildings all around us. You could feel it in your chest despite the detonation some 300+ feet above our heads. 'll never know what those fireworks were but I would love to have the skills and ability to build them so my sons could experience fireworks like that going off.
Im experimenting with fireworks now but I got some Mexican firecrackers in the '60s, that looked more like bottle rockets w bamboo sticks, they had solid fuses. Which I found amazing at the time May have been wrapped in string, not terribly big. Loud as hell. Kinda on the dangerous side because as In remember the solid fuses were a little inconsistent ATF has pretty strict rules on consumer fireworks now. As a licenced pyro technician, upon licensing you are afforded a little more leeway in your firepower but it comes with responsibility, liability and accountability.. But nothing in the world can stop you from setting off 70 lbs of Tannerite with a .223 out of an AR15 hanging out the window of your F150, if you are out in the county not in a city limits. A purchase of 50 pounds of Aluminum powder might get you a visit from the ATF to see if your paperwork is in order.
as you see in the replied main comment, there's a lot of mathematic and engineering to do this very very technical and I don't think the amateur videos of Strobe rocket detonations are made by very technical people, those look so homemade and kindly easy but not too much. and yeah thats what Mexico have really too much, and despite im studying engineering this video technical looks some complicated. Goog to know you enjoyed mexico handmade fireworkery. im from there
I want 100 to light on a relay, where they light each fuse around 2 seconds apart. After a minute, itll be nothing but nightmarish hellish whistling/strobing all at once and a pop every few seconds. Man I love the whine they make falling so much.
Just a question if you're in a state where it is completely legal to have rockets and manufacture your own fireworks without a license in that state for these rockets do you need an ATF license to be able to make them I just don't want to end up making something that I'll end up getting in trouble for
For me im not going to be able to afford that fancy press, but i did find a 20 ton press for sale for like $400. How do I control the amount of PSI it puts out.
How do you calculate your 9000psi on the fuel grains’ actual psi reading on your p2f gauge? Thanks Ben I appreciate the time you’ve put into your business and tutorials.
It's all a function of surface area. The hydraulic piston tends to be much larger in surface area than a rocket rammer. Basically divide the surface area of the piston by the surface area of the rammer and that will give you your factor of multiplication. I.e. if your piston is 10 square inches and your rammer is 1 square inch, your multiplication factor will be 10. Sooooo... a gauge reading of 100psi on your hydraulic piston will actually be putting 1,000psi on the rammer. Here's a sheet I use for all my tools and machines. img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/89f6e6f4-0d2c-4a4c-9da9-a100ff42aa9f/downloads/1bnm0l3s0_908830.pdf?ver=1623171412372
If I remember correctly I was pressing them at 6200lbs, so that's like 3.1 tons. Never used psi for the press I got. I was using 3lb strobes back in the day
Yeah, a change in nomenclature has occurred over the past couple decades. 20 years ago, most rocketeers were pressing to a certain measurement of "pounds of force". Nowadays, pressing is generally thought of in "pounds per square inch". Each type of measurement is essentially doing the same thing.... letting us know how compacted the fuel grain is within the rocket tube. I find it easier to think in terms of PSI... every rocket I press is 8,000-9,000 psi on the fuel grain. Super easy to remember that number.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 I don't have any real firework experience but I could imagine PSI being more useful for comparing engines of different diameters.
i did some static tests with my first batch of strobe pressed in a tube and it just burned like a flare, i think what i did wrong was pressed a flat fuel grain as if it was a delay stage instead of adding a core to it. im guessing strobe is only meant to be pressed around a spindle then right? thnx for the vids btw! 🙂
How much would you estimate the tools you use in this video to cost? Between the press, the bore burner, the tube support. And the other little tools you used.
Is there's a more efficent way of cleaning the jammer rod than using a metal stick. Maybe using compressed air to blow it out? Or is it caked in there?
Careful when scraping the strobe fuel off the the inside of that hallow rammer. It has gone boom. I wouldn't blow the strobe mix off your tube support since its toxic and goes airborne along with all that fine mgal.
So long as you don't allow the fuel that gets caught inside the rammer to buildup and compress into a solid plug, there is no issue using the rammer cleaner to keep the bore of the rammer clear. In fact, the single most dangerous thing you can do while building a strobe rocket is to allow the fuel to build up inside the bore of the rammer. The friction resulting from removing a rammer that is stuck on a spindle due to fuel buildup can and does cause an ignition. Using the rammer cleaner (brass and non sparking) to gently remove fuel from inside the bore of the rammer doesn't introduce any meaningful friction. In regards to blowing off the small amount of fuel from the support.... typically pyro building is being done outdoors where this isn't an issue. For the demo video, I had to film indoors. The fuel being used in the video wasn't pyrotechnic in nature and was an analog for the real thing simply to demonstrate the construction process.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 I did not know that. Your tools look very high quality compared to what I have but I'm a very low budget dude. From personal experience, I use the little bar very carefully to chip away at the whistle fuel not a brass rod. I wouldnt be doing that if I was a mass producer though but since im jus a hobbyist i can take my time for safety wihtout worry of falling behind schedule. . I wouldn't recommend anybody do it like i do. I never get comfortable and work fast because i fear an accident which can cost me my life. I never get comfortable in this hobby business or trade. Thats why im still alive.
I was gonna just assume he vaccuums the unburnt fuel he blows on the floor as to not cause a combustible powder buildup on the floor. Either way, mans dedicated to making beautiful fireworks, you have no room to question any of it. Freedoms baby
Oh boy..... I'd highly recommend joining a club or getting your federal license. Buying or selling these rockets without all the proper approvals is felony territory.
@@matt-dx3yc agreed m80’s and cherry bombs were stopped because of people losing body parts sad they had to go now we’ve just got lame firecrackers unless you get the license and make some flash powder/dark aluminum bangers
@@matt-dx3yc it's funny how you can buy 100s of grams of tannerite, a proper high explosive, capable of true detonation, but firecrackers with over 50 milligrams of flash powder are illegal
Is there website that sell the tools to compress the ingredients? And also how do I join a club? Do I need a 1.3 class license or is it jus a group helping and teaching eachother about these masterpieces
Yes, all the tools are available at my website www.fire-smith.com. Head on over to www.pgi.org for information detailing pyro clubs and organizations. As a member of these clubs, you can legally construct and shoot your own fireworks at club events.
So I wana learn how to do this stuff and I just don’t know any one to learn from if you or anyone out there in Texas that would teach someone I’m looking for a pyro teacher
Just need to do a bunch at once. Prolly need a stronger press and something to pivot the force across all motors simultaneously like a car's differential but for a press's force
If the header fell off my strobe rocket can I just hot glue it back on top or should I just cut my losses? I aint trying to figure stuff out especially with these 4inchstrobe rockets..
@@johnanderson186 Typically... but I do have some customers who use a couple increments of sally followed by benny for their motors. Generally, though you'd want the shorter spindle rocket sets for use with sally.
Nope, I prefer not to use a clay bulkhead. I've found that an additional increment of fuel serves the same purpose but always ignites your header. Clay bulkheads can produce passfire problems.
Its basically the difference between consumer fireworks (the stuff anyone can purchase as a roadside stand) and commercial fireworks (the bigger stuff you see at large displays). The larger commercial pyro is significantly more powerful than the consumer version. Special training and permitting is required to use those items. The single best way to construct your own fireworks legally and safely is to join a pyro club or organization (www.PGI.org for details).
There are a ton of variables that can cause issues building rockets. Most problems can be reduced or eliminated by using proven materials and techniques. What are you using for a support? What tubes are you using? How much pressure are you putting on the fuel?
so roughly how much is for this whole setup i mean the whole thing everything in this video to construct and fill and to the point of firing the actual rocket
The rocket tool set with support, tube extender & spindle remover is available as a package for $389.00. Add another $2,500.00 for the press (which is used to build a ton of other pyro stuff as well). All the details at www.fire-smith.com
I really like this flashing horn And I'm Vietnamese and I really want to learn it from you. Can you tell me the recipe and ingredients to make that type of flashing? I hope you can share with me some documents for reference about it.
Awesome thank you for the reply! Just getting started but very eager to learn for someone with experience. The terminology is a learning curve for sure and I have the basics down but from for knowing the difference between different types of rockets.
U make it look easy and im sure it does get easy at some point but it sounds like alot of money i wish i had someone to buy from i guess im going to start asking around
Like any skill, it just takes a bit of time to get your technique dialed in. Quality tools help quite a bit as well. Keep in mind, buying or selling commercial fireworks is highly illegal without the proper licenses.
I'd highly recommend joining a local pyro club (look at www.pgi.org ). By joining a club, you can legally build and shoot these devices at club events.
Not to make and use on your property. It’s storing, transportation that becomes the issue. Basically make it, light it same day on your personal private property. But state, town, city regulations can change all of that. May be legal federally, but local regulation may prohibit it.
Nope. But you still need to adhere to state and local laws. Federal laws are applicable when talking about transportation and storage as well. Best to join a local club to make sure you are completely covered.
I recently found out about strobe rockets. Can I find any to buy in Europe? Because I don't think I'm able to do them myself, not as a first time amateur.
You'll most likely have to make your own. Regulations vary by region, but being able to legally buy and sell these rockets isn't possible without a ton of paperwork and licensing.
Generally speaking, there are two families of whistle fuels. Sally and Benny. Sally likes a shorter spindle while Benny likes a taller, core-burning type spindle. Sally tends to burn more vigorously with a higher pitch, while Benny tends to burn more slowly with a lower pitch. I am a big fan on Benny whistle and prefer it over the Sally fuels.
Roughly speaking (though prices do fluctuate a bit), including the tube, stick, fuse and fuel.... about $3 each. That increases depending upon the header you place on the rocket, but the raw materials aren't really expensive for a 1lb rocket.
So this has been a question I’ve been thinking for a while which is after I make the strobe rocket where do I make the fuse hole and do I need a header for it or no because other rocket models have headers unless this one I can shoot it raw like how it looks at the end of the video.
No need to make any fuse hole. Just fold that last inch of Visco in half and stick it just into the bottom of the fuel core. A header isn't necessary, but it really add another dimension to the device.
The spindle creates a cavity for thrust. The longer skinnier the spindle, the faster and more thrust you will have. Your propellant will burn faster as there is more surface area exposed at ignition. Also means you need to make sure your motors are very well compressed and built, as CATOS with faster propellants are more likely, especially with nozzled rockets.
Building fireworks is certainly not a method to save money vs. simply purchasing them. However, you can produce some really cool stuff that isn't available elsewhere. Costs are relative, though. The money spent on quality tooling is a minor investment when compared to the expenses related to consumables (chemicals, tubes, fuse, etc...)
Yup... just be sure to keep everything square and rigid. Or, you could purchase a press specifically designed for pyro use and be set for the rest of your life.
I assume you are referring to the use of a teaspoon for increment sizing? Yes, that is far from an exact measurement, but for pyro use it is A-OK. The easiest way to construct precise and consistently performing rockets is to weigh out the total amount of fuel needed for each motor and keep that amount consistent. You could also weigh out each individual increment, but I have found that to be excessive and far more trouble than it's worth. But, keep in mind, we are describing pyro not aerospace where such accuracies are absolutely critical.
They very well could be in some locations overseas (I really don't know). I am surprised a factory hasn't developed a smaller, consumer version to be sold in firework stands.
I'm assuming it because their shelf life isn't very long and can be become unstable, especially when exposed to moisture. It would be cool though, at a smaller scale of course.
It actually goes pretty quick once you're setup. I can knock out a rocket in about 5 minutes if I'm uninterrupted. Building pyro is a very labor intensive endeavor.
If you knew anything about pyrotechnics then you would know everything that he is doing is correct! Also it doesn’t take a genius to just look at the other videos on his channel! Just imagine if everyone were to use their brains a little bit!
Showing it work proper.and showing the results of the amounts input into the rocket is mandatory when making this video.as part of the video at the end.not go search another rocket of similar materials..
No demo of work?? Very disappointed and absolute worst way to show knowledge of subject. Prolly a dud or nothing exciting or you would have posted… 0 🤡
It would have literally taken less time for you to click on the link to the video that shows the strobe rocket in action than it took to type your snide comment.
Cool press and dies, but rn somewhere in America someone is making this in there basement with a harbor freight press 😂
Is it...you....I bet it’s you 😂
Wait, you can't do this with a HF press?
How did you know
Please don't build pyro in your basement. Insurance isn't going to cover your loss if something goes wrong. A HF press can be made to work (at least on a most basic level), but they tend to not be square or rigid enough to handle the forces exerted during pressing. I've repaired countless tool sets damaged or destroyed by HF presses bending when under load. As with any other tool, buy the good stuff once and it will last the rest of your life...
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 now I feel like it's a challenge 😂
I need to join a pyro club. The consumer level artillery shells I buy at your average fireworks stand just isn't cutting it anymore. I remember when I was a teenager we all went to Rosarito, Mexico and bought some fireworks that were wrapped in cardboard and brown paper material. We set one off and it shot straight up in the air and when it went off it legitimately sounded like an 81mm mortar going off (I'm infantry in army) and it shook the glass on the highrise buildings all around us. You could feel it in your chest despite the detonation some 300+ feet above our heads. 'll never know what those fireworks were but I would love to have the skills and ability to build them so my sons could experience fireworks like that going off.
I bought some "paloma firecrackers" in Mexico and they were gnarly loud
No doubt join a club bro. You’ll never look back!!
Im experimenting with fireworks now but I got some Mexican firecrackers in the '60s, that looked more like bottle rockets w bamboo sticks, they had solid fuses. Which I found amazing at the time May have been wrapped in string, not terribly big. Loud as hell. Kinda on the dangerous side because as In remember the solid fuses were a little inconsistent ATF has pretty strict rules on consumer fireworks now. As a licenced pyro technician, upon licensing you are afforded a little more leeway in your firepower but it comes with responsibility, liability and accountability.. But nothing in the world can stop you from setting off 70 lbs of Tannerite with a .223 out of an AR15 hanging out the window of your F150, if you are out in the county not in a city limits. A purchase of 50 pounds of Aluminum powder might get you a visit from the ATF to see if your paperwork is in order.
as you see in the replied main comment, there's a lot of mathematic and engineering to do this very very technical and I don't think the amateur videos of Strobe rocket detonations are made by very technical people, those look so homemade and kindly easy but not too much. and yeah thats what Mexico have really too much, and despite im studying engineering this video technical looks some complicated. Goog to know you enjoyed mexico handmade fireworkery. im from there
@@djtecmo7841 well i got no engineering or pyro experience and was still able to get these puppies to fly. Only my first rocket cato’ed.
I’ll take 20
I’ll take 10 ..(not joking )
I want 100 to light on a relay, where they light each fuse around 2 seconds apart.
After a minute, itll be nothing but nightmarish hellish whistling/strobing all at once and a pop every few seconds.
Man I love the whine they make falling so much.
@@chuckyb3211 that’s at least 2000 dollars
@@Matt1exp take my 2000 then
Dangerous stuff right here and i now see why these are soo costly and you dont see these go off. Good stuff and stay safe. 👍
That casing around the tube is a potential bomb. I don't use it. But I just press it by hand.
@@Michael-rg7mxbro no no no, you should never press it by hand, don’t do that
if u press by hand it will ignite blinding your dumbass @@Michael-rg7mx
Just a question if you're in a state where it is completely legal to have rockets and manufacture your own fireworks without a license in that state for these rockets do you need an ATF license to be able to make them I just don't want to end up making something that I'll end up getting in trouble for
For me im not going to be able to afford that fancy press, but i did find a 20 ton press for sale for like $400. How do I control the amount of PSI it puts out.
Search it up on google
How do you calculate your 9000psi on the fuel grains’ actual psi reading on your p2f gauge?
Thanks Ben I appreciate the time you’ve put into your business and tutorials.
It's all a function of surface area. The hydraulic piston tends to be much larger in surface area than a rocket rammer. Basically divide the surface area of the piston by the surface area of the rammer and that will give you your factor of multiplication. I.e. if your piston is 10 square inches and your rammer is 1 square inch, your multiplication factor will be 10. Sooooo... a gauge reading of 100psi on your hydraulic piston will actually be putting 1,000psi on the rammer. Here's a sheet I use for all my tools and machines.
img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/89f6e6f4-0d2c-4a4c-9da9-a100ff42aa9f/downloads/1bnm0l3s0_908830.pdf?ver=1623171412372
Very informative video, thumbs up ❕
Man, i like your videos and the knowledge on the subject.
Thanks! Happy to help!
If I remember correctly I was pressing them at 6200lbs, so that's like 3.1 tons. Never used psi for the press I got. I was using 3lb strobes back in the day
Yeah, a change in nomenclature has occurred over the past couple decades. 20 years ago, most rocketeers were pressing to a certain measurement of "pounds of force". Nowadays, pressing is generally thought of in "pounds per square inch". Each type of measurement is essentially doing the same thing.... letting us know how compacted the fuel grain is within the rocket tube. I find it easier to think in terms of PSI... every rocket I press is 8,000-9,000 psi on the fuel grain. Super easy to remember that number.
i hope your doing ok with the legal stuff! Really miss your videos they were great!
@@user-uj9wz9sx4m I should know within 3-4 months
@@ciphercraft6176 hey bro i member when u got 45 lbs of kclo4 . Hope ur doin alr bro 👍🏾🤟🏾🤟🏾
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 I don't have any real firework experience but I could imagine PSI being more useful for comparing engines of different diameters.
he just showed me how to make some highly illegal shit lol
i did some static tests with my first batch of strobe pressed in a tube and it just burned like a flare, i think what i did wrong was pressed a flat fuel grain as if it was a delay stage instead of adding a core to it. im guessing strobe is only meant to be pressed around a spindle then right? thnx for the vids btw! 🙂
Thank you pyro man
You got it!
Got to learn how to do this.
Actually strobe fuel does give thrust. A guy just use strobe fuel by itself and the rocket went up like if it was black powder.
Sounds interesting. I can't say I've ever come across a strobe fuel that produces much thrust. Do you know his formula?
How much would you estimate the tools you use in this video to cost? Between the press, the bore burner, the tube support. And the other little tools you used.
I would like to see and hear an example of a strobe rocket made this way.
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The rocket in action is in another video on my channel.
Is there's a more efficent way of cleaning the jammer rod than using a metal stick. Maybe using compressed air to blow it out? Or is it caked in there?
Careful when scraping the strobe fuel off the the inside of that hallow rammer. It has gone boom. I wouldn't blow the strobe mix off your tube support since its toxic and goes airborne along with all that fine mgal.
So long as you don't allow the fuel that gets caught inside the rammer to buildup and compress into a solid plug, there is no issue using the rammer cleaner to keep the bore of the rammer clear. In fact, the single most dangerous thing you can do while building a strobe rocket is to allow the fuel to build up inside the bore of the rammer. The friction resulting from removing a rammer that is stuck on a spindle due to fuel buildup can and does cause an ignition. Using the rammer cleaner (brass and non sparking) to gently remove fuel from inside the bore of the rammer doesn't introduce any meaningful friction.
In regards to blowing off the small amount of fuel from the support.... typically pyro building is being done outdoors where this isn't an issue. For the demo video, I had to film indoors. The fuel being used in the video wasn't pyrotechnic in nature and was an analog for the real thing simply to demonstrate the construction process.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 so there smarty trousers...
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 I did not know that. Your tools look very high quality compared to what I have but I'm a very low budget dude. From personal experience, I use the little bar very carefully to chip away at the whistle fuel not a brass rod. I wouldnt be doing that if I was a mass producer though but since im jus a hobbyist i can take my time for safety wihtout worry of falling behind schedule. . I wouldn't recommend anybody do it like i do. I never get comfortable and work fast because i fear an accident which can cost me my life. I never get comfortable in this hobby business or trade. Thats why im still alive.
I was gonna just assume he vaccuums the unburnt fuel he blows on the floor as to not cause a combustible powder buildup on the floor. Either way, mans dedicated to making beautiful fireworks, you have no room to question any of it. Freedoms baby
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376
What about drilling the hollow rammer all the way?
Where do I get one of these press setups?
I see why the plug charges so much for them
Oh boy..... I'd highly recommend joining a club or getting your federal license. Buying or selling these rockets without all the proper approvals is felony territory.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 the government is over reaching so much. wish the people arrested and jailed all these corrupt cops and politicians.
@@alexvids9232 when you dont know what youre doing, you make bombs. this isnt over reaching
@@matt-dx3yc agreed m80’s and cherry bombs were stopped because of people losing body parts sad they had to go now we’ve just got lame firecrackers unless you get the license and make some flash powder/dark aluminum bangers
@@matt-dx3yc it's funny how you can buy 100s of grams of tannerite, a proper high explosive, capable of true detonation, but firecrackers with over 50 milligrams of flash powder are illegal
Is there website that sell the tools to compress the ingredients? And also how do I join a club? Do I need a 1.3 class license or is it jus a group helping and teaching eachother about these masterpieces
Yes, all the tools are available at my website www.fire-smith.com. Head on over to www.pgi.org for information detailing pyro clubs and organizations. As a member of these clubs, you can legally construct and shoot your own fireworks at club events.
How much would someone crafting these want for them? I've read $200-$500 a pop?
The actual costs to make a strobe rocket (excluding tools) are only a few $$. The plugs selling them are charging so much because it's highly illegal.
So I wana learn how to do this stuff and I just don’t know any one to learn from if you or anyone out there in Texas that would teach someone I’m looking for a pyro teacher
I'd highly recommend contacting the Pyrotechnic Artists of Texas group. They could probably help you out.
Just need to do a bunch at once. Prolly need a stronger press and something to pivot the force across all motors simultaneously like a car's differential but for a press's force
You're referring to a "gang press". This is commonly used for commercial production.
Is there anything legally you need to make your own fireworks?
If the header fell off my strobe rocket can I just hot glue it back on top or should I just cut my losses? I aint trying to figure stuff out especially with these 4inchstrobe rockets..
Depending on the header, you should be able to just glue it back on. Heat up your glue gun, but unplug it before going anywhere near live material.
And we’re gonna add some protein
the last strobe rocket fuel that uses titanium, what are the right ingredients and quantities?
Please read the tutorial on my website at www.fire-smith.com
I'm about to buy your strobe rocket tooling and I want to make 1" ID rockets. What tooling set should I buy? Thanks.
Any of the core burn sets make great strobe rockets following this tutorial. I like the Nozzleless set myself.
Would sali whistle be too fast for a long skinny spindled BP motor set vs the Benny fuel?
You'd want the 3lb size
@@johnanderson186 Typically... but I do have some customers who use a couple increments of sally followed by benny for their motors. Generally, though you'd want the shorter spindle rocket sets for use with sally.
27,000 views. I'll get that many someday .😄🤘
I noticed you didn't add a clay bulkhead to the top. Is it not necessary for these?
Nope, I prefer not to use a clay bulkhead. I've found that an additional increment of fuel serves the same purpose but always ignites your header. Clay bulkheads can produce passfire problems.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 awesome thank you 🙏
Can u add strobe fuel to flash powder
How come it’s illegal compared to other fireworks
Its basically the difference between consumer fireworks (the stuff anyone can purchase as a roadside stand) and commercial fireworks (the bigger stuff you see at large displays). The larger commercial pyro is significantly more powerful than the consumer version. Special training and permitting is required to use those items. The single best way to construct your own fireworks legally and safely is to join a pyro club or organization (www.PGI.org for details).
Hey Ben, is that 3/4 I'd tube or 1" Thanks.
1lb or 3/4" ID.
My tube support keeps opening and my tube is cracking. Why is that? Please tell me
There are a ton of variables that can cause issues building rockets. Most problems can be reduced or eliminated by using proven materials and techniques. What are you using for a support? What tubes are you using? How much pressure are you putting on the fuel?
Either you have a piece of junk, you're not tightening the tube support all the way or the threads are stript and it's time to buy a new tube support.
@@RunningMan40510 you can drill new taps and use helicoils to fix it.
so roughly how much is for this whole setup i mean the whole thing everything in this video to construct and fill and to the point of firing the actual rocket
The rocket tool set with support, tube extender & spindle remover is available as a package for $389.00. Add another $2,500.00 for the press (which is used to build a ton of other pyro stuff as well). All the details at www.fire-smith.com
Do you sell these? Can i buy any?
Would've loved some clips of you using it to get an understanding of which fuel is doing what exactly.
The rocket is shown in action in a separate video.
Search strobe rockets, there’s plenty of videos out there.
Your monotone is kinda creepy definitely back east somewhere possibly Wisconsin or Minnesota?
I really like this flashing horn And I'm Vietnamese and I really want to learn it from you. Can you tell me the recipe and ingredients to make that type of flashing? I hope you can share with me some documents for reference about it.
how to make salute rockets?
Would an arbor press be sufficient or do you need the pressure from a hydraulic press?
If you're making a small diameter rocket (1/2" or less), an arbor press will work. Quality tubes are a must, though.
Awesome thank you for the reply! Just getting started but very eager to learn for someone with experience. The terminology is a learning curve for sure and I have the basics down but from for knowing the difference between different types of rockets.
Happy to help! Feel free to ask any additional questions.
Do you sell rockets??
Where do you get strobe/whistle fuel?
You can make it, he has a video explaining how to make the fuel yourself.
Where's the rest of the video? We want to see start to finish
The rocket in action is posted in another video on my channel.
U make it look easy and im sure it does get easy at some point but it sounds like alot of money i wish i had someone to buy from i guess im going to start asking around
Like any skill, it just takes a bit of time to get your technique dialed in. Quality tools help quite a bit as well. Keep in mind, buying or selling commercial fireworks is highly illegal without the proper licenses.
Are these legal to fire off? Especially with a huge salute at the end?
You know the rules, and so do I. Proceed at own risk.
I'd highly recommend joining a local pyro club (look at www.pgi.org ). By joining a club, you can legally build and shoot these devices at club events.
Where do you get the supplies to make these
Skylighter, Pyro Chem Source and Fireworks Cookbook.
is this something i need a license to actually make myself?
Not to make and use on your property. It’s storing, transportation that becomes the issue. Basically make it, light it same day on your personal private property.
But state, town, city regulations can change all of that. May be legal federally, but local regulation may prohibit it.
Nope. But you still need to adhere to state and local laws. Federal laws are applicable when talking about transportation and storage as well. Best to join a local club to make sure you are completely covered.
Well done
Thanks!
You rocket my dreams
I recently found out about strobe rockets. Can I find any to buy in Europe? Because I don't think I'm able to do them myself, not as a first time amateur.
You'll most likely have to make your own. Regulations vary by region, but being able to legally buy and sell these rockets isn't possible without a ton of paperwork and licensing.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 how would I start experiencing strobe rockets than? To learn and you know.
Where did you get the machine from?
I design and manufacture all of the tools and machines shown in my videos. You can purchase your own at www.fire-smith.com
What make strobe frequency high or low?
The mesh size of your magnalium determines strobe rate. Coarser magnalium strobes slower than finer magnalium.
Is it necessary to wax the tubes
Nope, the vaseline does the same thing.
where can i get that tube extender and press?
All the tools and machines in the videos are available at www.fire-smith.com
What are your fuels? What powders are you using
He has another video called “making strobe rocked fuel”
Kannst du mir welche bauen und schicken ?
how can i get it
How much is this one LB able to lift? 3" or 4"?
4"
A 1lb motor will easily lift a 3" shell quite high. Once you get your rockets dialed in, lifting 4" (and even larger) shells with a 1lb motor is easy.
I notice you use the black powder spindle when on your site the whistle spindles are much shorter. I’m confused
Generally speaking, there are two families of whistle fuels. Sally and Benny. Sally likes a shorter spindle while Benny likes a taller, core-burning type spindle. Sally tends to burn more vigorously with a higher pitch, while Benny tends to burn more slowly with a lower pitch. I am a big fan on Benny whistle and prefer it over the Sally fuels.
How much money do you have in one rocket? I don't mean the total cost all of the bulk supplies.
Roughly speaking (though prices do fluctuate a bit), including the tube, stick, fuse and fuel.... about $3 each. That increases depending upon the header you place on the rocket, but the raw materials aren't really expensive for a 1lb rocket.
Maaaan all that and your not going to send it off ... 😢
Why not show it?
The video of the rocket in action is also on my channel.
So this has been a question I’ve been thinking for a while which is after I make the strobe rocket where do I make the fuse hole and do I need a header for it or no because other rocket models have headers unless this one I can shoot it raw like how it looks at the end of the video.
No need to make any fuse hole. Just fold that last inch of Visco in half and stick it just into the bottom of the fuel core. A header isn't necessary, but it really add another dimension to the device.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 isn't that what that spindle is for? Creating a cavity in the bottom for the fuse?
The spindle creates a cavity for thrust. The longer skinnier the spindle, the faster and more thrust you will have. Your propellant will burn faster as there is more surface area exposed at ignition.
Also means you need to make sure your motors are very well compressed and built, as CATOS with faster propellants are more likely, especially with nozzled rockets.
Can I buy it from you or from someone?
Nope, buying and selling commercial fireworks without all the proper paperwork and licenses is highly illegal.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 welp, rocket science you know, i only wish i could understand halv things you saying :)
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 lame
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Why everything is so expensive ☹️
Building fireworks is certainly not a method to save money vs. simply purchasing them. However, you can produce some really cool stuff that isn't available elsewhere. Costs are relative, though. The money spent on quality tooling is a minor investment when compared to the expenses related to consumables (chemicals, tubes, fuse, etc...)
they're all precision machined
where can I purchase those spindles ?
And tube support .
Everything in the videos is available here:
fire-smith.com/
Make ur own press. www.skylighter.com/blogs/how-to-make-fireworks/rocket-press
Yup... just be sure to keep everything square and rigid. Or, you could purchase a press specifically designed for pyro use and be set for the rest of your life.
where can i get strobe fuel
You must make it. Check out the video on my channel detailing this process.
Do you sell any rocket
Nope, your best bet is to join a local pyro club so you can build these in a safe a legal manner. Checkout www.pgi.org
No atf. Im not here looking for directions. I promise
Not one bit of PPE is he wearing LOL
If I were making a large batch, I'd certainly wear a mask. For the video I wanted to demonstrate the technique and remain as audible as possible.
Imagine making a video in 2021, and still using banana-scale units to measure
I assume you are referring to the use of a teaspoon for increment sizing? Yes, that is far from an exact measurement, but for pyro use it is A-OK. The easiest way to construct precise and consistently performing rockets is to weigh out the total amount of fuel needed for each motor and keep that amount consistent. You could also weigh out each individual increment, but I have found that to be excessive and far more trouble than it's worth. But, keep in mind, we are describing pyro not aerospace where such accuracies are absolutely critical.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 I was reffering to the use of imperial units.
@@Marly375i maybe if you picked up on the fact that he is American you'd understand why he's using imperial measurements
Why aren’t these sold in retail stores?
thats what i was wondering
They very well could be in some locations overseas (I really don't know). I am surprised a factory hasn't developed a smaller, consumer version to be sold in firework stands.
VERY dangerous
I'm assuming it because their shelf life isn't very long and can be become unstable, especially when exposed to moisture. It would be cool though, at a smaller scale of course.
dude can you just send me some monster strobe rockets please
Sorry, buying or selling commercial fireworks without the proper licenses is highly illegal.
@@firesmithmanufacturing9376 lol
Do you sell these?
I do not sell live fireworks, only the tools to build them.
Can we be friends
Cool but Too much work
It actually goes pretty quick once you're setup. I can knock out a rocket in about 5 minutes if I'm uninterrupted. Building pyro is a very labor intensive endeavor.
@ken fung, they don't call it a hobby for nothing mate, the rewards are very satisfying.
I'll take a few.
Can't sell the rockets, but I can certainly hook you up with the tools!
altagc
Can't we see this go up? All this technical mumbo jumbo but no proof. These all could be duds.
Yup, look for the green strobe rocket video on our youtube channel.
If you knew anything about pyrotechnics then you would know everything that he is doing is correct! Also it doesn’t take a genius to just look at the other videos on his channel! Just imagine if everyone were to use their brains a little bit!
This is the type of person you don't want trying to build strobe rockets.
Showing it work proper.and showing the results of the amounts input into the rocket is mandatory when making this video.as part of the video at the end.not go search another rocket of similar materials..
No demo of work?? Very disappointed and absolute worst way to show knowledge of subject. Prolly a dud or nothing exciting or you would have posted… 0 🤡
It would have literally taken less time for you to click on the link to the video that shows the strobe rocket in action than it took to type your snide comment.