Mixing And Casting Rocket Propellant - Simplex Ep 2

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  • Thanks to Bespoke Post for sponsoring this video! Head to www.bespokepost.com/bpsspace20 and use code BPSSPACE20 to grab your “box of awesome” and get 20% off your first box.
    Thanks to Charlie Garcia for teaching and helping me build this motor: @AstroCharlie
    You can sign up for an Onshape account by clicking this link: onshape.pro/BPSSpace
    Some places to look if you want to learn more about solid rocket motors:
    www.rocketryforum.com/
    / rocketry
    www.nakka-rocketry.net/
    ntrs.nasa.gov/
    Charlie also has a great series of videos about solids on his channel: @AstroCharlie
    Every-two-weeks updates happen here: / bps_space
    Second channel, mostly for KSP: / musicmakr
    0:00 - Intro
    0:46 - APCP Components
    6:19 - Bespoke Post Ad
    7:33 - Safety
    10:35 - Mixing Preparation
    12:14 - Mix Paddle Issues
    12:50 - Mixing the Liquids
    13:33 - Vacuuming the Liquids
    14:09 - Adding the Solids
    14:39 - Adding the Curative
    15:07 - Vacuuming the Propellant
    15:29 - Pourable vs Packable
    16:55 - Prepping Liner for Casting
    18:01 - Casting Hardware
    18:37 - Prepping Hardware for Casting
    19:04 - Packing Propellant
    19:29 - Removing Casting Hardware
    20:47 - Voids in the Finocyl
    22:15 - Other Resources
    22:55 - Outro
    For more info:
    / joebarnard
    / bps_space
    / bps.space
    / bps.space
    www.bps.space
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  • @Mozartenhimer
    @Mozartenhimer ปีที่แล้ว +780

    This is insanely interesting content. No intention of making a solid rocket, but still here to watch

    • @flying0graysons
      @flying0graysons ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same!

    • @joec-hd6dc
      @joec-hd6dc ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I totally concur with you 😉. Fascinating content and obviously very intelligent presentation. That being said it's DEFINITELY NOT A "Hold my Beer challenge" jm2c 👍

    • @witchdoctor6502
      @witchdoctor6502 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would love to try this, but I'm just smart enough to not try it as in best case I would fail, worst die :D

    • @steveo6034
      @steveo6034 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure is!!

    • @1islam1
      @1islam1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@flying0graysons 👉🔴What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?
      Muslims respect and revere Jesus (peace be upon him). They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. The Quran confirms his virgin birth, and a chapter of the Quran is entitled ‘Maryam’ (Mary). The Quran describes the birth of Jesus as follows:
      (Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)
      Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, the same command that had brought Adam into being with neither a father nor a mother. God has said:
      The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)
      During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. God tells us that Jesus said:
      “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” (Quran, 3:49)
      Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus’ enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him. And the likeness of Jesus was put over another man. Jesus’ enemies took this man and crucified him, thinking that he was Jesus. God has said:
      ...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)
      Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in one God, brought by earlier prophets, but rather to confirm and renew it.

  • @AstroCharlie
    @AstroCharlie ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Every time I see that void filled finocyl my eye lets out a single tear...
    Next mix we're gonna nail the density!

  • @DontForgetYourDreams
    @DontForgetYourDreams ปีที่แล้ว +167

    The safety precautions you stress so much are absolutely valid!
    When I was 20 (13 years ago), I also made solid rocket propellant (Amonium perchlorate) with my friend who is chemistry PHD today. I mixed the aluminium powder with the amonium perchlorate powder when they were still dry powder. Dust must have settled in the air and a spark must have been generated somewhere. There was a huge explosion and my right hand was completely destroyed, my left hand only partly. My eardrums were ruptured and I had chips of the ceramic mortar we used in my eyes. As it came close to a fragmentation grenade the chips also went into my chest and almost killed me because they came close to my lungs besides the extreme blood loss I had.
    10 surgeries and 4 months inpatient later I was in my rehabilitation phase and I am just so grateful to this day that I survived, that I can hear and see and that I can still enjoy this amazing life. Btw today I am an aerospace engineer :)

    • @tomp538
      @tomp538 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that day was not your time...

    • @zoenagy9458
      @zoenagy9458 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That sounds like a pipe bomb

    • @laikawuff
      @laikawuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      jesus christ dude

    • @talyrath
      @talyrath 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Your friend needed to have his PhD revoked for that one. That's like an electrical engineer sticking a fork in an outlet to see what happens.
      ...never mind. I just described ElectroBoom's entire channel.

    • @rdizzy1
      @rdizzy1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@talyrath I don't think his friend had a PHD at the time, says he has it now, not then. At that time, he likely was only in his first or second year of college.

  • @pepperparkerwrites1732
    @pepperparkerwrites1732 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    As a baker who has scraped down many a mixing bowl… consider getting a bowl scraper to clean the sides! It’s much easier to use and much more through than an actual spatula. 15:00

    • @AKAtheA
      @AKAtheA ปีที่แล้ว +9

      metal on metal is not a good idea...keep in mind that is is not dough but rocket fuel, if you ignite it while handling it - you get incinerated

    • @zakhenry
      @zakhenry ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@AKAtheA bowl scrapers are typically a kidney shape piece of hard plastic. no metals involved

    • @ChronicMechatronic
      @ChronicMechatronic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zakhenry depends, the ones used to get smaller amounts of softer dough out of the bowl are usually pastic, but the ones much more frequently used including to scrape dried dough from the sides are actually stainless steel

    • @pepperparkerwrites1732
      @pepperparkerwrites1732 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was specifically thinking of the Ateco plastic bowl scraper! Mostly since they’re already wearing gloves. Just seemed easier.

    • @user-jh5jk1wx9m
      @user-jh5jk1wx9m 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ggg

  • @joshmalo7341
    @joshmalo7341 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your a good man making sure to go over safety as in depth and thoroughly as you did. It shows you care and understand the value of a life. Well raised young man right there. Parents did a good job. 👍

  • @bbrockert
    @bbrockert ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One more nuance to the propellant making legality: in the US, transporting a live motor on the road and transporting a motor across state lines can expose you to new and exciting regulation like the DOT and rules around interstate commerce. If possible, making the rocket at your launch site can dramatically simplify the legal framework.

    • @wgoulding
      @wgoulding ปีที่แล้ว

      This is correct. You have to do a bunch of paperwork to do it. And have licenses and such from the ATF (which is actually now the AFT&E, the E being explosives. Yes, solid propellant is classified as an explosive).

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even a LEUP doesn't mean you can transport across state lines.

  • @wgoulding
    @wgoulding ปีที่แล้ว +447

    Hello! I'm a professional, I work at one of the handful of companies in the US that make solid rocket motors for NASA, the DoD, and the DoE. Watching this was extremely difficult. Yes, everything worked out, but there was so many opportunities for things to go very badly. I didn't see proper PPE (flame retardant lab coats, face shields), I didn't see de-ionizers, I didn't see personal grounding devices, and I didn't see the casting tooling and motor be grounded when it was pulled. The separation of the tooling from the propellant grain can create large static electricity charge build-ups. Also, sawing a propellant grain of that size, yikes. I'm not in the safety department, I do design, so there's probably more than that.

    • @ALPHA-zx5ep
      @ALPHA-zx5ep ปีที่แล้ว +147

      As a worker in a small high school in the middle of the french countryside, watching this video wasn't particularly difficult for me ;)

    • @dfgaJK
      @dfgaJK ปีที่แล้ว +45

      what you don't know can't hurt you... right? No?? 💥

    • @ALPHA-zx5ep
      @ALPHA-zx5ep ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dfgaJK right

    • @thomasstuart2936
      @thomasstuart2936 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      The moment he started talking about getting in a hurry, I started writing the root cause report in my head.

    • @tequilachef
      @tequilachef ปีที่แล้ว +42

      As kind of a collegue of yours from abroad you are absolutely right. To add the one thing tha bothered me most: Extracting the casting tools was really hard to watch. There is an IMMENSE mechanical stress on the propellant in terms of friction, and that could have easily gone off directly next to your face. These kinds of operations MUST be done remote-controlled, especially at the size we're talking about here. There has been more then one deadly accident in the industry at this very step...

  • @wesselscreations
    @wesselscreations ปีที่แล้ว +61

    If making again in the future, maybe having a massage gun or something similar nearby, for if it becomes a packable motor. Could vibrate the casing like when casting concrete, to help liquification and reduce bubbles around the more complex geometry.

    • @wgoulding
      @wgoulding ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The mixture is way too viscous for that to make a difference. The less electrical devices you have near propellant, the better.
      Edit: With a mechanical device going back and forth extremely rapidly, there's a distinct possibility to:
      1. Build up static charges that could discharge into the propellant
      2. Cause small sparks from metal-to-metal contact within the device.
      I'm not saying that would happen. I'm not even saying it's likely to happen. But when the consequences are that you die or at the very least your face burns off and you're horribly disfigured, do you want to take those chances? No.

    • @wesselscreations
      @wesselscreations ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wgoulding I disagree, the right vibration can liquify extremely viscous and aggregate heavy concrete when pouring into molds.

    • @wgoulding
      @wgoulding ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@wesselscreations concrete is different because you have a whole bunch of solid particles (aggregate) suspended within the liquid cement. When you vibrate that you achieve something called liquefaction. With solid rocket motor propellant, it's much more of a gooey plastic mixture that responds elastically to vibration. Vibration will help, but the problems they have cannot be solved just with vibration. I can't say more because otherwise I'd possibly be breaking federal law.

    • @tomsteve3804
      @tomsteve3804 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wesselscreations testing your theory on both substances would be a great experiment.

  • @fullflowaerospace
    @fullflowaerospace ปีที่แล้ว +35

    cherry limade sounds so good, i mean, its literally just cherry, lime, and lemonade mixed together. its also really hot.

  • @wouldntyaliktono
    @wouldntyaliktono ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When I was a senior in high school my chemistry teacher decided to sponsor our student rocketry club. He was one of these old-timers who wasn't fazed by much, and just wanted us to have fun learning. And he let us do all sorts of cool stuff with static thrust tests and airframe designs, and casting our own Sugar/KNO3 motors. But the whole club had shut down when we blew our test stand (a tree stump) in half because of voids in the propellant grain.

  • @TheExplosiveGuy
    @TheExplosiveGuy ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I've been building my own APCP motors for a while now, this was great to watch. It's kind of funny watching you go through all the same hurdles that I went through, like the intended pourable fuel that turned into a packable fuel, the PITA vacuum process of trying to keep the fuel off the vacuum lid, the voids in the finocyl and the liner OD not matching the case ID, it's all part of the learning process lol. If your fuel is only packable, i found that its necessary to vacuum fill the case, where you make a vacuum chamber that the case fits into, and at the top you have a funnel and ball valve which you pour your fuel into, then once the chamber has been evacuated you open the ball valve to allow the fuel to start pouring in. Once it is fully filled, any voids in the fuel will collapse after releasing the vacuum, and you take it one step further by inducing vibration into the tube as it fills to allow better settling.

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "keep the fuel off the vacuum lid"
      Use smaller batches. If that is not an option, pull vacuum as much as possible, then quickly vent, which will collapse the upper bubbles. Repeat until you can pull a full vacuum.
      Regarding the vacuum filling: Take a look at vacuum infusion for glass / carbon fibre with epoxy. Using the same bagging (simple plastic bag, but really strong) and sealing should not just be cheap, easy and fast, but also allows you to manually push the stuff in the tube to help the vacuum.

  • @r0cketplumber
    @r0cketplumber ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As part of the Rocket Test Group (a mutual aid society for rocket propulsion safety) I got a VIP tour of ATK's Promontory facility where they were making space shuttle SRBs. The major casting rooms had emergency escape slides that were in deadly earnest purpose, and frankly terrifyingly steep- and I'm a guy who has jumped out of planes, off a building, and flown aboard a rocket plane.
    I'll stick with my liquid rocket engines, thank you. We didn't have to manufacture our propellants and could reload them in just minutes, our team even flew the X-Racer seven times in one day.

    • @wgoulding
      @wgoulding 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, other solid rocket motor facilities have walls that you can run though like the kool-aid man; so you don't have to get to an exit that might be blocked or crowded, you just have to run away.

  • @patchvonbraun
    @patchvonbraun ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'll note that space-shuttle SRBs are made with PBAN as the binder, because it cures a LOT slower than HTPB. They could literally commence a pour on Friday, have the booster sit over the weekend, and then continue the pour on Monday. PBAN is also marginally cheaper.

    • @AIM54A
      @AIM54A ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I made some composite motors using PBAN back around 2001 and I recall the mix being much more a pain to work with then HTPB was.

    • @kirahund6711
      @kirahund6711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They used PBAN for several reasons. The space shuttle was designed in the seventies, and PBAN propellants were standard during that timeframe. Price and availability was another factor. Polyurethanes can be tailored to all kinds of curing reaction speeds, but considering the sheer size of the cast segments it was much safer to use other cure mechanisms, since traces of moisture creates gas bubbles in polyurethanes and exothermic cure reactions might cause problems during casting such big grains. And the main reason PBAN was chosen wa sits mechanical properties. There is a lot of stress on the propellant grains due to the sheer size, especially once it burns. The PBAN propellant was more durable in that regard.

  • @ericblenner-hassett3945
    @ericblenner-hassett3945 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    As a Baker, when you only have a dough hook, put all dry in first and add the liquids in slowly. In your case, make sure that any " Grinding " of the dry ingredients will not ignite the mix as you are adding in the liquids, curing agent last.

    • @MrGerhardGrobler
      @MrGerhardGrobler ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ammonium perchlorate is a bit impact sensitive, if I remember correctly. I use potassium nitrate. Not as potent, but it works. Richard Nekka Epoxy

    • @Argosh
      @Argosh ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That approach with APC will lead to a large hole in the ground.

    • @SparkRocketLab
      @SparkRocketLab ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bad idea. If you atomize AP or metals in the air it's an explosion hazard. You always mix liquids (minus binder) first then particulates, wetting out each as you go. It's a risk mitigation thing.

    • @Argosh
      @Argosh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SparkRocketLab "risk mitigation" is such a bland word for avoiding blowing up the entire building you're in.

    • @ericblenner-hassett3945
      @ericblenner-hassett3945 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SparkRocketLab If you go slow enough ( or had a paddle so you could avoid dry first with some liquids ) you end up with a putty like mixture and I did mention the potential of it igniting on it's own. I admit I don't make my own rocket engines or mix such chemicals, I am a baker. With a Dough Hook, you get the dry to incorporate smoothly with the reverse of how you mix with a paddle. All precautions should be taken as the ingredients can potentially use the Aluminum Dough Hook as yet another fuel for ignition.

  • @phoenix2068
    @phoenix2068 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    When I was an intern for ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization) they used TDI (Toluene Di-Isocyanate) as the curing agent and was treated the most carefully out of all the chemicals. It reacts violently with moisture to solidify so if you inhale it it solidifies in your lung and windpipe. (So yeah pretty bad) Tho it can be neutralized using ammonia so everyone had a bottle of ammonia and water mixture (they called it Anti-TDI) and another intern there dropped the bottle and the whole room smelled rancid for a week, and the cleaning staff was not pleased.

    • @theweblover007
      @theweblover007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you still persuing rocketry or related stuff in India? (Fellow indian here)

    • @phoenix2068
      @phoenix2068 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theweblover007Well as lucky as I was getting that internship, my field of interest was in biochemistry and biotechnology so I'm pursuing further studies in those fields.

  • @voxelmaniam
    @voxelmaniam 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Well done. I'm really enjoying this series. Personal note: In the mid 90's I worked for a company that produced software for visualizing 3D volumetric data. We received an inquiry from NASA asking if we would be willing to do an analysis of a phantom (non reactive) rocket motor CT scan that was part of a study they were performing. The goal of the study was to identify effective non-destructive testing techniques for man rated solid fuel rocket motors. The data set was from a test article that had experienced a malfunction in the thermal controls while the propellent analog was curing. This resulted in massive stresses building up in the fuel that literally tore it apart. They wanted measurements of the tear surface area and volume of the open space. This was a really neat project and got me a trip to Huntsville AL to demonstrate how we did the analysis.

  • @TimLukeAnderson
    @TimLukeAnderson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Joe your content paired with several others who produce educational content has inspired me to commit to a higher education, i'm finishing my finals in my second semester of my freshman year at uaptc,
    ive wanted to do these type of projects for over 4 years and now i'm on a path to a stable career in the discipline of computer science as well as a path that allows me to do these cool projects and hobbies. Thank you.

  • @justspace103
    @justspace103 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It’s super weird to see something you’ve been doing for 4 years explained so eloquently. Awesome video Joe! Can’t wait for you to discover more about the mixing process!

  • @simonabunker
    @simonabunker ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cooking with Joey B is a lot darker than last time I watched it!

  • @infinitelyexplosive4131
    @infinitelyexplosive4131 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's so cool to see this process with all the stumbles and learning points rather than just a cleanly-edited highlight reel!

  • @truegret7778
    @truegret7778 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done, guys!
    I had commented on a prior video about using a wagon wheel design we used long ago, 56" diameter 25-30' long, and we had to use 2 forklifts with everyone finding a place on the forklift to try and pull out the forms. All 12 of them. We used pressurized LOx (from pressurized helium) as the oxidizer, and polybutadiene+carbon as the fuel. Your work here brought back memories as this was in the mid-1980's. Thanks! Great job.

  • @wesselscreations
    @wesselscreations ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Do you measure the containers after pouring to get the exact amount you actually used in the mix?

    • @icannotfly
      @icannotfly ปีที่แล้ว +14

      weigh the container and material inside, then subtract the container and leftover material after pouring

    • @BPSspace
      @BPSspace  ปีที่แล้ว +52

      We did not but that is a phenomenal idea, thank you!

    • @terben7339
      @terben7339 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A good technique for weighing liquids is to pre-wet your container with the ingredient, drain it, tare it, and then add the amount you require. When you have added the ingredient to your mix, re-weigh the wet container to check that you have added the right amount.

  • @thomasstuart2936
    @thomasstuart2936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is also the NFPA standard 1125 - Code for the Manufacture of model Rocket and High-Power Rocket Motors

  • @DEtchells
    @DEtchells ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I *love* these deep dive videos! As you’ve emphasized, they don’t provide nearly enough info to replicate what you’re doing, but they lay out the important issues including a lot of non-obvious ones and *point you in the right direction*! I doubt I’ll ever actually make a rocket motor (but who knows?), but I *LOVE* learning about how it’s dine! Fantastic(!!) content! 👍👍😃

  • @jimseibyl5140
    @jimseibyl5140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great breakdown on the procedure, easy to follow along and entertaining for those that have made ACPC.

  • @Somerandom1922
    @Somerandom1922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Side note, I just love that you keep saying "No, I'm definitely trying to scare you". Good idea :)

  • @trunksu2544
    @trunksu2544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thoroughly enjoying this series, and I look forward to the next episode. Keep up the great work!

  • @lukebaker1167
    @lukebaker1167 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG, tell me. Was that the legend himself I just saw!!!??? The one and only Rick Mascheck!!??? He has helped me A LOT, sometimes just talking. A wonderful man, oh and ur "little" project is absolutely brilliant, Luke & Charlie boy. (Tasmania!!!!)

  • @flare2000x
    @flare2000x ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for specifying the safety stuff and that this isn't a tutorial. Keep up the good work Joe and good luck.

  • @peacekeeper9687
    @peacekeeper9687 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best videos you have uploaded.
    You can’t find anyone else who explains and literally shows how rocket fuel (APCP) is made in detail .
    👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥

  • @leadf00t
    @leadf00t 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for this. I'm living vicariously through your adventure. Maybe someday I move my pursuits closer to aerospace!

  • @cephalos81
    @cephalos81 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One pointer I would like to input. During preparation, to deal with clumpy-ness, and for the sake of my OCD tendencies, I tend to do fine powder for every solid, I use my finest sifter for all solids. If it is not powder sugar small I keep going. The extra time to truly refine your initial solid ingredients cascades into time saved throughout the whole process, always take your solids to their smallest possible surface area. Unless the conditions require specific surface areas (mainly when making nano particles) I always go to smallest size possible SPECIALLY THE ALUMINIUM which should be stirred constantly into the mixture while a shaker attached to the mixer rotor evenly pours. Then you can call you aluminized mixture acceptably stable.

  • @rustywidget4813
    @rustywidget4813 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for being so serious about safety in this video!!

  • @bennyfactor
    @bennyfactor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In pasta making, the way you account for all the vagaries of temperature, humidity, density, etc, is to use weight (mass) instead of volume measurements, even though the latter are far more common, even in rocketry apparently. Just a thought.

  • @LaunchRecap
    @LaunchRecap ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so inspiring. I can’t wait for the day I do this! Love the vids man. keep it up ❤

  • @Splarkszter
    @Splarkszter ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all the safety and tiny bits of cool information. This video was very entertaining to watch.

  • @davidstewart5811
    @davidstewart5811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding presentation. You clearly know what you are doing.

  • @Thomas-lv9se
    @Thomas-lv9se 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such an interesting video! No intent of building such a rocket (+ it's highly illegal where I live) but just watching you do it is amazing!

  • @jeff4kingable
    @jeff4kingable ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You're good at this. It's a pleasure to watch your videos and watch your progression... You wouldn't have been doing this 5 years ago!

  • @perodactyl490
    @perodactyl490 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the sense of humor this person has.

  • @ajoulethief7751
    @ajoulethief7751 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are so well produced everytime i see a new one it makes my day

  • @Jamesfreezy
    @Jamesfreezy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving this series so much thank you for these 😍🥰

  • @sweater7630
    @sweater7630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in a pinch you can always add a little more plasticizer. A vibrator for concrete strapped to the outside of your motor tube will help get air bubbles out while you pour the mix glhf

  • @Timo_Adventures
    @Timo_Adventures 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you need one of those cement vibrator tools that helps pack the material down and get rid of bubbles

  • @everyusernameistakenalread8298
    @everyusernameistakenalread8298 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is awesome most of the time I have no idea what your talking about but its still interesting to watch. Reminds me of my youth making rocket engines from sugar and potassium nitrate mixtures... still surprised we never blew our self's up pounding those mixtures into cardboard tubes with dowels and hammers. The good ol' days before TH-cam. 🚀👍

  • @diveflyfish
    @diveflyfish ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Perhaps one idea for vacuum expansion issues, you may consider to have an intermediary vacuum vessel between the mix vessel and the Vacuum pump! This way any inadvertent material would flow into the secondary vessel as a safety measure.

    • @OkammakO
      @OkammakO 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those are called 'catch pots' or 'resin traps'. Very useful indeed! However i'm a bit unsure if they'd even want to mess with it in this specific situation, because it being used means APCP all over the inside of the lid and in the tubing. Better than inside the vacuum pump, for certain, but still a pain in the rear.

  • @t.b.a.r.r.o.
    @t.b.a.r.r.o. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We used on of these flavors to make thermal lithium batteries. A couple times during the first year or so of running the presses to make the powder into pellets we had flash fire events.
    A pound of two of powder would go off during those events. It was always over in less then a second. No bang. Not even much of a sound at all. But melted belts on the machine were pretty much SOP after a flash.
    No one was ever hurt and luckily we eventually figured out what was initiating the fires.

  • @Aerospacechannel
    @Aerospacechannel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact this man can put togther such high quality videos about rockets blows my mind. All the other rocket channels are most certainly not as well designed. So, do you have any tips for a small channel? Thanks.

  • @Cykotiq
    @Cykotiq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    00:38 silly Joe! it's pointy end UP flamey end DOWN!

    • @haph2087
      @haph2087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always remember the way things go!
      For cars, it's shiny side up, rubber side down.

  • @ambulocetusnatans
    @ambulocetusnatans ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned everything I need to know from this video. I learned that there is no way I am going to ever do anything like this, and that's all I need to know.

  • @SixOThree
    @SixOThree ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that workbench.

  • @elmar_wermuth
    @elmar_wermuth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool and interesting video. I appreciate that you explain all the safety measures in such great details! Better safe than sorry 😅

  • @ecsciguy79
    @ecsciguy79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet! Now I know how to make a rocket motor. New plans for this weekend!

  • @marcosgaray7524
    @marcosgaray7524 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It should be mentioned that hitting the grain in this way is not safe, it is a way to remove the mold, it could cause an accident. Great video by the way

    • @robertobryk4989
      @robertobryk4989 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of accident?

    • @neomone1989
      @neomone1989 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertobryk4989 Ignition. APCP can ignite just from being hit hard enough. If you accidentally hit a piece, or if there's a bit that is on the ground and gets crushed when they're dropping the whole grain, it could flare up and propagate to the rest of the motor. Suddenly your rocket is on fire, and as he explained earlier in the video putting it out is not an option. You run and hope that it just burns itself out without too much damage to everything around it.

  • @omniyambot9876
    @omniyambot9876 ปีที่แล้ว

    excited for launch😊

  • @SpacePotatoFilms
    @SpacePotatoFilms ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I'm a Space Potato from the future here to let you know that while Elon may be the one that got us to Mars it was Joey B that got us to Pluto

    • @tygerbyrn
      @tygerbyrn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Space Potato.

    • @silmarian
      @silmarian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did we find a Mass Effect relay there?
      (Edited for autocorrect)

    • @SpacePotatoFilms
      @SpacePotatoFilms ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@silmarian I'm not permitted to say more in case I alter the timelines, but keep an eye on Pluto.

    • @potatosalad68
      @potatosalad68 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a potato salad. May we be friends

    • @SpacePotatoFilms
      @SpacePotatoFilms ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@potatosalad68 in the future all potatoes put aside their differences and join together in camaraderie and starchy living

  • @CaseyDoranWritesCode
    @CaseyDoranWritesCode ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:00
    babish 🤝 bps
    mise en place

    • @DKofDAH
      @DKofDAH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you know what type of of pen he uses?

  • @vasssila1807
    @vasssila1807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This content is fire. Thank you, keep pushing

  • @sunlight3542
    @sunlight3542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoying this series. Id imagine those ingredients are pretty hard to come by

  • @Simple_But_Expensive
    @Simple_But_Expensive ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about casting the finocyl section separately? Also, mandrel removal would be easier if it had a very slight taper.

  • @johnchristopherrobert1839
    @johnchristopherrobert1839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respect for the materials and the process will save your life. Fear will get you hurt or dead. If you’re afraid walk a way.

  • @TheBikerEngineer
    @TheBikerEngineer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Additional safety points when handling energetic materials. High humidity keeps the chance of static build up in the air to a minimum, preferably above 60% if the materials are sensitive. Another is the use of cotton clothing and NOMEX overalls. These will reduce static build up on yourself and also if a fire or flash does happen it should provide enough protection for short duration events and or enough time to get to safety.

  • @valentin4324
    @valentin4324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im gonna follow this video step by step.

  • @sthoward48
    @sthoward48 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totaly Enjoyable, pleasant voice, an, no background Crap..........Tks 4 That......

  • @plasmaman9592
    @plasmaman9592 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the info! I have never done anything like this before but you gave me enough info to play around on a small scale. I know how to be safe for the most part. I think some backyard testing would be fun. I think a rocket motor with no nozzle would be more entertaining to watch at a distance. Got to be careful what materials the case is made out of to not brake any laws.

  • @greenerell484
    @greenerell484 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating

  • @bjf10
    @bjf10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm sure you know this, but a taper on the core is super important. I knew a guy who lost 1.5 fingers trying to remove a parallel core from a rocket he made; too much friction equaled boom.

    • @memberHD
      @memberHD ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if it goes boom, he's not using APCP

    • @bjf10
      @bjf10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memberHD I did not assert that he was.

    • @memberHD
      @memberHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@bjf10 But, we all know you were and now you've decided you weren't after getting called out on it.
      On the off chance you are not full of shit. What propellant was this person mixing? I can not think of any propellant that anyone would mix at home that would be that sensitive to heating. Or one that would explode in the configuration shown in the video

    • @bjf10
      @bjf10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memberHD you can believe whatever bullshit you like. We're done here.

    • @neomone1989
      @neomone1989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@memberHD The friction sensitivity of APCP is pretty low when compared to most similar things, but it's totally possible to set it off by friction if there happened to be a bit of grit or something in there. You do not want to be dragging a long pole out a non-tapered channel - the likelihood of an initiation is small but the potential consequences are huge. It's unnecessary risk when you can just do it a better way from the beginning.

  • @joemay2640
    @joemay2640 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video and explained excellently.

  • @jgroverman
    @jgroverman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was great meeting you at the Evolution space event Joe and discussing this motor! This was a great video, looking forward to following along. I wouldn’t underestimate the poor mixing you achieved with that dough hook and it’s affect on the propellant’s rheology. I’m sure you’ll get your propellant and processing dialed in, but reach out out if you want additional thoughts, as this is in my wheel house. Cheers.

  • @user-fx4lu2hj1c
    @user-fx4lu2hj1c 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    u can add some acetone to improove flow, or apply vacuum and then add acetone + curing agent and mix manually.

  • @unosuave
    @unosuave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are brilliant!

  • @webdronez
    @webdronez 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool.. Next time for that propellet to be extracted, you could fab lid for one end to attach an air nozzle and use air to force the propellent out with that. Just another way you could explore. I enjoyed this content you are a good speaker.

  • @silence9042
    @silence9042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys, i am really happy meet you, because i have a hobby - this is space. Most interesting, this is i learn english, because i want to move to US and there study space theme. You are can to make everything, i belive you. DO IT!

  • @perfumedmanatee6235
    @perfumedmanatee6235 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rapid unscheduled undirected propulsion

  • @jaredknapp8886
    @jaredknapp8886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your content. Wish i had some cool stickers or a tshirt. Next payday. Esoteric rocket science is tragically underrated and super cool. Wish you the best.

  • @xxxdiresaintxxx
    @xxxdiresaintxxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Joe, I'll personally never need this info but I enjoy it all the same.😊

  • @Mcmpnr
    @Mcmpnr ปีที่แล้ว

    550 k Congrat !!🎊

  • @blechnik
    @blechnik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very nice work on the safety stuff during the mixing!
    only thing that worries me is the demoulding/ removing of the core.... i was told, that APC can be very sensitive to impacts, so even if there would be a tiny bit between the main core and the fin part, that could have ignited! knocking the core out like you did, every professional would have gone running!
    in a company building similar motors, the de-moulding is done in a safety room using hydraulic actuators which are manually operated from outside the room

  • @tarstunisianaerospaceandrocket
    @tarstunisianaerospaceandrocket 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi great video
    Try acoustic resonant mixing these type of mixing saves time and a lot of propellant

  • @davidjeff2536
    @davidjeff2536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not even 3 minutes into the video and have already genuinely laughed out loud twice. I needed that.

  • @ltpinecone
    @ltpinecone ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cool stuff as always!

  • @thecelt4807
    @thecelt4807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for packing and avoiding voids you can try a concrete vibrator tool or some such similar , that will get rid of voids , just need one that suits the scale at which your working with

  • @SnowingNapalm
    @SnowingNapalm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks man 👍

  • @user-np9dp9rk8u
    @user-np9dp9rk8u หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the work done! What do you think of the idea? - Pour the fuel mixture (in viscous form) into the molding cylinder (shell), and then create a vacuum in it and leave it to dry.

  • @threehammers2516
    @threehammers2516 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a sweet Mill that Charlie has!

  • @davidhilsabeck
    @davidhilsabeck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    AP has to be screened right before mixing. It will clump while you look at it. In pyro (not rocketry), we push all chemicals through screens with small mesh sizes before mixing through courser mesh screens.

  • @Andy-rk5kz
    @Andy-rk5kz ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, you're the best. love your videos.

  • @dfgaJK
    @dfgaJK ปีที่แล้ว

    2:13 Now that is some dedication to youtube content!! I bet the idea of drawing it by hand was a good idea when you started!

  • @Billybobble1
    @Billybobble1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I postponed watching this because I thought it would be somewhat boring, wow how wrong was I! Super-interesting video and the level of details you add is sublime. I particularly appreciate your safety advice, it's exceptional content. Also, when you whispered, I had a proper lol. Top stuff!

  • @asidesigner8542
    @asidesigner8542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks joe for sharing, love you to the Mars and back. It would be more helpful if you could add some price info, like prices of materials, parts etc... Keep up the good work

  • @gumie3579
    @gumie3579 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think I’m on a national watch list now.

  • @iseriver3982
    @iseriver3982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing says bespoke like getting the same subscription box as everyone else.

  • @sleddog1935
    @sleddog1935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take me back to the days of Aerojet Sacramento SRP and the cast and cure building. Which blew itself into the ozone layer one day.

  • @promess
    @promess ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the time to get back on track.

  • @chrissold5957
    @chrissold5957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice Development
    I would ever try to process a smaler portion before prepairing such a huge energetic mixture.
    Glad you survived this - watching you with the saw ... you know FeOxides are strong catalysts to this whole reaction (NASA used it in its propellant ).

  • @robertsteinbeiss8478
    @robertsteinbeiss8478 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Job!

  • @BreakingTaps
    @BreakingTaps ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Instructions unclear, my cookies exploded in the oven. 😅
    I know cutting it in half probably wasn't anything to worry about regarding sparks/accidental ignition, but sure felt like it would have been scary regardless! Even though I'll probably never make my own rocket propellant, was a really interesting video! Can't wait to see the next one

  • @Pman353
    @Pman353 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a cool episode of cooking with Joe!

  • @adikisela409
    @adikisela409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for sharing..

  • @punicwars2
    @punicwars2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeahhhhhh came as soon as i could!!!