I recognize the shortfalls of the 7s (no hacking/hand winding) and the bracelet it comes with is (as you say) completely un-useable. But in my day-to-day life at the office, my SNKL23 gets more wrist time than pretty much any other watch I wear combined. I've owned it for years and I still find myself staring at it all the time. I don't need second accuracy in an office job, and a black horween leather strap really sets it off. The dial on the seiko is absolutely gorgeous with the applied indexes and brand logo as well as the texture on the outer edge is amazing. If I could ever do a custom job, I'd put a hacking movement like a 6r in an SNLK23 and call it a day. Such a wonderful piece!
Nice fun review. Regardless of the material specification I would take the Seiko every time - I do think, however, that Seiko really need to up their specs these days in light of the cheaper better specced competition around- they are not the value/quality proposition they used to be.
I own a SNKL23, it's actually one of my favorite in my collection... So I admit I am not completely impartial here, but I found the Seiko way more interesting and beautiful comparing to the Cadisen. When you put them side by side, you realize that the c1032's dial is quite flat, almost... boring so to speak. And that's completely personal but that roman "XII" is a big no-go for me... Anyway thanks for your videos, best regards from France
I have both of these watches… Jody is spot on when he says the bracelet on the Seco ‘sucks !’...When you order it make sure you order a nice leather band to go along with it… Finish is outstanding...Nicer than watches that I have that cost three $3-400...The cadisen slit is so shiny but I personally believe it cheapens the look of the watch considerably… They are both on a black Italian leather quick release butterfly strap… They look amazing and I wish I could post a picture… I find myself choosing to wear the Cadisen Far more than the Seiko...I like the 40 mm size on my 7 1/2 inch wrist, And the sapphire crystal and low cost… Makes it the perfect dress beater watch!
You have to wonder why Seiko persist with the 7S26 when their own, better and cheaper 3rd party NH36 is readily available and cheaper for other watches.
Because the history and the brand, with chinese companies you buy a watch without history and respect in watch community but again, if you dont care for brand and history of it, of course get the chinese one with nh35.
Badr The Golden Boy, Hari so what you're saying is, they use the 7s26 because they can get away with it, people still buy the watches and they make more money
But the NH35/NH36 are basically Seiko's own 4r35/36, so history and brand has nothing to do with it. My point was that Seiko sell the better movement to 3rd party manufacturers for peanuts and persist with the very outdated 7s26 in their own watches (at an inflated price point).
@Marcquise White the cadisen literally has a seiko movement inside. The hardware is exceptional. What are you complaining about? the letters on the dial? So you're the kind of person who'll pay $3000 for a laptop because it says APPLE ?
@Marcquise White lmao why would I even pay more for the name Nike? its just a name. A good shoe is a good shoe, a good watch is a good watch. I dont care it says reebok or new balance or nike. You focus too much on the name when you should judge the product BY ITSELF. It may say seiko on the dial but the bracelet is horrible. (like mosty seiko bracelets) A lot of microbrands use seiko or miyota movements, even "western" watch brands.
@Marcquise White just shut up dude, its people's choice for wearing a Cadisen, the fact that you're judge people's based on what they're wearing meaning you're an insecure watch snob. Shame
Very entertaining and informative. Love your modesty and sense of humor. It’s very refreshing to see someone who is super good at what he does yet does not take himself too seriously. Thank you!
I really think the lume bonus makes the difference for the Seiko. Having lume makes it a more versatile everyday watch, where as the Cadisen is more of a straight up dress piece. That’s my take-away, anyway.
Cadisen C1032 all the way :) *Edit* Bought mine in the AliExpress mid-year sale for £32 and after the 1st week it has been keeping an average of 2-3 seconds a day. A brilliant watch that is.
i have the Cadisen now for a few months and people don't know the brand, but like the watch quality. Thanks to the DayDate function and the sapphire glass,people thought that i spent a few hundred euros for this watch. The Cadisen is amazing for its price.
The thing with the SNKL23 is; for the money it's an indecently pretty little watch and it does look far more expensive than it actually costs - which does have a value to it. It's annoying that it doesn't hand-wind (hacking doesn't bother me either way) but I'll put up with that for the price. The specs of the Cadisen are better but it looks like a $100 watch. When I look at my SNKL23, see the detail in the dial, the hands and the finishing... I don't care about the specs. I also don't mind the bracelet at all.
came back to this classic video, as currently I'm thinking about getting my handy on another Seiko 5 (silver this time) - reason I'm commenting: I owen now a total of six Seikos (SNKL23, New Turtle, Quarz and some of the 'recrafts'), some about 5 years. Not a single one of them got a scratch on the hardlex and I'm clumsy. Though I'm still tempted to replace the SNKL-Crystals with Sapphire, as I love the look of domed-crystal on that one...
I'm watching this with my Cadisen. I have both black and silver dial versions. The case size is actually rather 39mm than 40mm and it wears smaller than the Guanqin GJ16034 also featured here. I didn't care for the shiny bracelet so I changed it instantly to a leather strap which looks much better. Now I'm wearing them on Eulit perlons for the summer. I had the hour and minute hands changed for the silver dial version to a pilot style hands to enhance the legibility and to get some lume as the dauphine hands tend to "disappear" in some lighting conditions. Overall I really like the Cadisens (and the Guanqin too) although I would consider the Seiko 5 too if they would at least upgrade the movement.
@@rofieqnurrozaqrobarwarto4609 I don't know for sure because a watchmaker changed the hands. But I've read some comments that the dial of the Cadisen is indeed fixed so you can't remove it with the movement. Therefore I assume that the watchmaker has changed the hand by removing the bezel and the crystal. I couldn't ask this because when I picked up the watch there was only a salesperson in the shop. I guess that you could try to use a snap-back watch case opener with a lever to remove the bezel. But I wasn't that expensive to have a watchmaker to do it for me so I thought that it was worth it as I didn't have proper tools.
So every Chinese special I own… And I do have a few! Have been based on your recommendations Jody. And I can’t say that you’ve ever lead me astray! I have a few more expensive watches...And I’m looking at others all the time as it is actually become a rather infectious hobby for me! You’re not just one of my go to guys wanna comes to looking at water abuse you are now and have been for awhile my #1 go to guy...My Chinese specials are actually some of my favourite watches mainly because I still can’t understand how they can Provide so much for so little… This Cadisen is no exception... For the money it’s unbeatable...I love my seiko’sand my citizen’s as well...My Zelos and spinnaker....?Awesome! I especially like the fact that you look at low cost Micro brands! I have 50% Scottish blood running through my veins so I I’m always looking to stretch the dollar and get a deal😂! Keep it up and thanks For throwing in ‘chuckles’ here and there...Looking forward to future reviews! John
I finally bought a silver dial Cadisen after watching your videos and wore it for the longest time. Then I finally went for the Ruimas you reviewed. That one replaced the Cadisen on my wrist. One note, not too long after the Ruimas purchase I received a call from my CC company to ask if I had purchased groceries at Walmart at 6 in the morning in Arkansas. Since I was asleep at that time in South Carolina I told them no. It was my first experience buying from the company you recommended and I fear the coincidence so quickly after leads me to decide never to make another buy from that particular site. It was the first time I've ever had a cc problem. Of course the company cancelled that card and issued another. I do like both watches and thank you for your reviews.
I purchased the Cadison, and have been wearing it for the last 3 weeks to work. It does wear ok, but I must say, I am not much of a fan of the clasp. It seems to self-open every now and then if I am articulating my wrist, and I have noticed it is sometimes hard to locate the ends to fasten each side. But a truly gorgeous watch. I would have to say though, as an every day wearer, my 20 year old quartz Lorus sports watch is by far better. I wouldn't bother with the Seiko 5 automatic, but might be willing to spend a couple hundred on a very good Seiko Quartz.
I've never been able to tell the difference between hardlex and mineral. I've had maybe a dozen seikos with hardlex over the years and they've all gotten scratched fairly quickly. Sapphire, on the other hand, is in a different league. It's not impervious to scratches but it's a million times better than hardlex.
We all agree that an acrylic crystal, like on the Casio F-91W, is at the bottom rung. This stuff is so bad that it registers all but the slightest impacts on it.
Mineral and hardlex are less likely than sapphire to shatter, however, which may be a benefit considering that most people are going to treat a Seiko 5 a bit less gingerly than a $370,000 Grand Seiko Tourbillon watch.
I have a two year old Seiko snk809 on leather NATO strap, I also have a few months old Parnis "sumbariner" with miyota movement. The thing is the Seiko certainly has better quality control and manufacturing tolerances where it matters I would say. Parnis has far worse crown, stem feel to it. Not as crisp as Seiko. And Parnis stopped few times during wearing, two or three times. Also my Parnis dial has tiny spec of dust under the black paint near 12 o´clock position. But it is very accurate +- 2 sec. a day, Seiko runs about -6 sec. a day. Nowadays I wear a Parnis, because of the steel bracelet which is better in the summer (sweat is leather strap killer). But for the money you get more in Parnis - saphire crystal, very nice steel bracelet, submariner style, accurate japan movement for 75 USD. I bought Seiko for 74 USD two years ago, now they have become quite expensive around 100 USD. But in the end, both watches are great in their own way.
I just picked up a Seiko SRPD29 for $165 on clearance at Costco this weekend. I thought it was a pretty good deal. I figured someone in your audience might appreciate the heads-up. Another great video. I'll definitely be adding one of those Chinese specials at some point.
Never had the arm hair issue with my Seiko 5. The Cadisen is a good value but the Seiko 5 series of watches has a style and history that adds a little bit of depth and magic.
I have that Cadisen on an aftermarket leather strap. Great beater dress watch. And I went for the SNK795 over the SNKL23. I like the 795's case design a little more.
Cadisen for me is the winner. The clean look, better movement, sapphire and most important value for money. I recommend buying them and i think its one of the small chinese brand to watch out for.
I've been wearing a Cadisen 1032 in silver for about a year now....love it....just purchased the black face 1032 and a cadioak 42mm(11-11) still waiting on them can't wait
Same here. Bought one of the high beat dress watches that Jody recommended. Was dead out of the box, and the hands jumped around when you “shuffled” it. I didn’t even bother trying to return it, just sits in the box, never to be opened again.
I got a Cadisen after watching one of your other video's not the model in this video. It is a great watch and I have been asked about it , so the brand awareness may grow. thanks again
I own a snkl23. It is persistently beautiful at any source of light around and at any intensity particularly at morning 10am or evening 4am from the sun. It glows somehow differently from many angle. There are so many subtleties in a single watch. And it is the best one in keeping time among others in my collection, almost unbelievably +- 5s per day compared to my several SKX, and SNZ.
Thanks to you I am a proud owner of this Cadisen - and was in the market for this Seiko as well, but this was before the price raise. So let's play the new video, which is more than relevant to my tastes :D
Wow, I had this Cadisen on my wishlist since I saw your review video, but after seeing this comparison I'll definitively buy it ASAP! The specs this watch offer for only 50 bucks (still same price in 2021) is just ridiculous!
I bought the black Cadisen C1032M for $47 on 11/11. I have a small wrist and 40mm is my max. for a dress watch, but bear in mind that a black dial visually will look smaller on a wrist, and a white dial larger. Thanks for this video!
Tough comparison in this one, but very informative. I own 5 different Seiko watches, only one of which is a 5. However it is my go to watch in my whole collection of 20 watches. Very nice holographic face with a jubilee bracelet that I have worn for over 20 years without any hair pulling. I’ve never had it fall off, and it looks great on my wrist, but it is very small on my 8 1/2” wrists. I’m a big guy and I wear a smaller watch, but as my eyes have started to fail and suffer from cataracts, I’ve been on the lookout for larger watches. I find them bulky and I continually crash into objects with them. I don’t know what to do.
The seiko wins because of its classical size, plus the design is much better. The cadisen would be better for me if it was 36/18. I've always been a fan of the classically sized watches. 40mm is a bir big for a dress like watch.
Seiko all day for me... it will still be going in 30 years... I have a Seiko 5 from the 1980's, used and abused, never been serviced and still going strong. Keeps fantastic time.
Bought the Cadisen based on your reviews, and really have been enjoying it. I really don't mind all the bling, but really would have been ecstatic if it had some lume on it for night viewing. Great review, thanks Mike. PS . I live in the wrong Sydney....Nova Scotia ( New Scotland...lol.) so I guess I won’t be seeing you on our streets any time soon, but if I did I would certainly say Hello and have a wee chat. Cheers.
I think this was a great comparison. I agree with everything you said. I have 2 Seiko 5s that are similar that I feel I am always trying to love as much as possible but it is hard for obvious reasons.
I got a Casio Royale knock off (skmei) watch during prime day and the band is a real hair puller. My macgyver solution was to line the inside with duct tape. No more pulls.
If Cadisen (or one of our other Chinese favorites) will do everyday NH35/36 watch below 40mm with descent lumed hands/dial, I would buy it with no hesitations whatsoever. Also overpolish-ness ticks me off a little bit... Great video, Jody!
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet." Despite Juliet's claim--for me the name Seiko 5 means something that outweighs all of its shortcoming. It has a story to tell about the making of the optimal affordable timepiece.
In my humble opinion "Day-Date" is a must have complication in any watch, which has a calendar function. We usually know which month and year it is, but we usually forget about dates and weekdays - is it wednesday today?? This is a frequently asked question to me by others, and I quite often do not know either if it is not very beginning or end of the working week, not even speaking about long holidays.
You're generous awarding quite so many points to the Seiko for brand reputation. I'm a bit of a Seiko fanboi, but I can't deny this Cadisen outshines the SNK in almost every other regard. If your title and opening premise are any guide, it's really no contest at all; the Cadisen is just such a great budget everyday watch. I will defend the Seiko in terms of overall aesthetics however, as I agree with your assessment of the Seiko's superior case finishing and especially its far more visually interesting dial/handset. It's also worth mentioning that the SNK not only gets a bonus for having any lume at all, but it's the well-regarded Lumibrite, which acquits Seiko well in any budget watch comparo.
The lack of hacking and hand winding in a watch drives me nuts and is a deal breaker for me. So I got a Seiko 5 JDM Model SARZ005 which uses the 4R36 movement for a few dollars more (about $150 USD at the time), and it has served me quite well for two years now. I really do like it for daily wear. The bracelet isn't great but it looks very nice on a leather strap. Until recently I didn't realize that there were different levels of watch within the group of Seiko 5 watches but apparently there are.
I put a jubilee bracelet on the cadisen, the watch and bracelet cost a total 100 AUD together and it really changes the watch. Feels a lot more premium and comfortable not to mention looks way better than with its original bracelet.
I had to say I had no problems with mine it was perhaps more accurate than seiko 5 sports with the same movement but something felt of like the date-will but then again it was 3 times cheaper
I happen to own both of these pieces. Although, I only received the Cadisen a week ago. I agree completely with this video, but can say with confidence that after the honeymoon phase with the Cadisen is over, I'll definitely be reaching for the Seiko more often than the Cadisen. After all, I do have the Seiko wave tattooed on my arm. ;)
My kids are TH-camrs and sometimes when we go out together they get recognized and I’m always tickled about it. They have 6 channels with two over 6 million subscribers. Don’t tell them but I watch your channel more than I watch theirs
Jody... I have my oldest Seiko 5 at 15 years old... My grandfather's Seiko 5 is alive and ticking at 40 years old..... I have never seen a Seiko 5 stop working.... Oldest I have seen is 60-70 year old Seiko 5s
I have the Seiko SNKL19 (essentially the SNKL23 except with a gray dial and gold tone hands and markers), and I agree that the bracelet is terrible. I swapped it out immediately for a leather strap. I also have the SNKK86, however, and find the bracelet on that one to be much more bearable. I think it is because each link is the full width of the bracelet, as opposed to the three-part or five-part links on most Seiko 5 models. The one-piece links have a much more solid feel to them (even though they are still folded links), and the bracelet doesn't pinch nearly as much. So far I have left it on the bracelet and have worn it without any real discomfort. The SNKK86 is gold colored, but it also comes in SS with a black, white, or brown dial (SNKK81, SNKK77, and SNKK79) or in two-tone (SNKK83).
Just got mine snkl23 last week.. I believe seiko had bring back this model for production. Super loving it, what a surprise is the accuracy only lost - 2sec or - 3sec perday. Maybe im just lucky
You should really add a category for quality. I've drunk bought a couple of these cheap Chinese automatics and they all break within a couple of months of using them. God knows if they're even using real 316L steel. The Seiko will most likely still be ticking in 10, 15 years barring it being smashed on the ground and broken. Can't make any guarantees with the Cadisen...
The cadisen uses seiko movement so probably will still working after years the biggest difference would be quality control, with this Chinese watches you can get the best watch for his price or you can get a shit that comes with poor construction quality
Hardlex isn’t a real problem for an office watch...😉 ... but just imagine Seiko would use the NH36 and instead of the bracelet a fine leather strap, which would add maybe 20-30$ what a watch this could be... They would have longer waiting list as Rolex 😂
Great comparison vid. At this point Seiko really should be using the NH36 throughout the 5 series. I have an older 5 series (10+ years now), and I will say that the major advantage Seiko has over its competitors is the detail of the dials. I get so many compliments on my Seiko 5. The bracelets are typically garbage, but it’s common to see them with aftermarket straps. I put a really nice black strap on my SNXS73, and it looks much better.
I've complained about the sheer quantity of sponsored videos on your channel before Jody so it's only fair to let you know why I like this kind of content so much more: I understand that you have to eat but most of the sponsor watches are just uninteresting to me (might be different for others), it's much more fun when you talk about watches that people actually consider and weigh against each other and also ones you can be completely honest about. The Seiko takes it for me, cheers 👍
I've had both a Cadison and a Seko. They both failed me (needed repairs). However, I was angrier at the Seko because it cost over 3 times the price of the Cadison. Both watches looked nice, but the Cadison was very imprecise when being set. I agree with Jody about hair pull on metal bands. I had a cheap Casio that was the worst. I eventually gave it away to a friend because I was tired of getting my arm hair pulled off!
Seiko's are known to last for generations. Aside from proprietary hardlex crystal, everything is well built for the price. But I wonder if the cadisen is the same. Any idea on the durability of the cadisen watch? What type of metal are they using?
I have to disagree with you on a lot of the knocks against the Seiko. I use the same SNKL23 for a daily wear in the office and a machine shop and have not had a problem with the Hardlex. The bracelet, while cheaply made is fine. I don't know what you are doing to lose all your arm hair to it but I wear the watch snugly and have not had a problem with that at all. It is also very easy to adjust the number of links which I do twice a year spring and fall due to temp changes here in Canada. One thing that seems to get overlooked a lot is the recessed crown on the SNKL23, it makes the Seiko wear very comfortably as you don't have the crown digging in to the back of your hand all the time. I would like a hacking and hand winding movement but since it is a daily wear it almost never runs down on me so hand wind is not really an issue. As for the Cadisen, I have only heard a few things about them and almost all have been about poor quality and poor customer service, so I won't waste my time, money or energy on the brand.
Kia Ora neighbour! Great comparison again Jody. Personally don't like the stripes on the SNKL23, I have the SNKL45 with a nice sunburst dial. I guess the result would swing more in favour of the Seiko if you compared the 23 with a Guanqin GJ16034 which now only comes with the Miyota movement.
My Seiko 5 (809) sitting on my navy/white nato is my daily. Only loses 1 sec/day!! Only gripe is it looks a little small on my 21cm wrist. But I love it🥰
I picked up the Cadisen after seeing it in one of your earlier vids. Not a bad little watch at all. I own several Seiko 5s. This one's a bit small fr my gorilla wrists. I agree with the bracelet being rubbish. Honestly, it's a throw away. I'd expect better from Seiko even on their budget pieces. Although the 5 has a very nice dial, the Cadisen takes it in my opinion as well. Another brilliant T Shirt BTW 😁👍
Thanks for this great video of affordable watches Jody! I've the Cadisen C1033G, basically the same watch as the C1032 but with a different dail and brushed bracelet. All that for €43 (less then $ 50!) at an AliExpress sale. And the accuracy. WOW! Yes, I know, when you want an accurate watch, buy a quartz. As you stated in your review of the Cadisen C1032 last year: it is ACCURATE! Mine does + 0,3s/ day (during 18 days so far).
@@Rick-ve5lx That's not good.. I take the watch off at night and lay it "crown up". That (for my Cadisen) is the best way to keep accuracy. "Horizontal" it gained + 12s/day...
Jacob Kugel Good advice thanks but I’ve tried it. Mine is 13s flat or 8s crown up. Not as good as yours but far better than my SKX and a little better than my Alpinist, both of which I sold. I’m happy enough as the 1032 is within spec. Cheers!
Now what *I'm* after is a Flieger style watch very similar to my Seiki SNK809 but *bigger*. Can't justify the Hamilton Pilot Day Date at the moment, so cheaper than $300 AUD is where it needs to be.
At this low of a price point you should be getting a quartz movement to be honest. You could keep the decent finishing and dial on the Seiko and actually have it tell accurate time. Found it amusing how both of those watches had display case backs too.
Hardlex is a deal breaker for me. I have one Seiko 5 that scratched and I doubt I'll buy another Seiko because of the Hardlex. When you can buy a $20.00 watch with sapphire crystal (which I've done several times) what is Seiko thinking?
Wow you you really punished the Cadisen for being polished as if no person in there right mind would want polished over brushed. Many people prefer polished. After a sapphire upgrade, polishing the case is the most popular Seiko mod! That category really skewed the results. The only reason I haven’t bought the Cadisen is because of the brand (which I think will change soon). If was branded Seiko, I would have it in my wrist now! It’s one sharp looking watch. The only categories I think it loses in is brand and lume. Keep up the great videos! My favorite watch channel!
Seiko hands down! Just look at the dial and hands on a high def screen and you'll see the details. That would bring the Cadisen at leats 4 points down to a 3 and a tie of 61 Ha! Seiko wins in the bonus box and everybody goes home happy. Just my two cents. Awesome video BTW.
I can kinda of understand why ppl want hacking for a very accurate movement/ which 7S isn’t. But if shuffling watches were more expensive then hand winding, ppl would think they were better. Surely is easier to just shake the watch?
It's a pain coz, you cannot shake to wacth for it to last the whole day unless you wear it as a daily driver, I always prefer hand windable watches coz you can give it a full wind forget about it for 2 days
Abdullah Pro i kinda get what you’re saying. But instead of taking time to wind the watch you’re just taking time to reset the time when you pick it up. I don’t get the issue.
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Don't be sad Jody, here in Paraguay You are an icon, like a dictator
When I see ya in the Sydney streets, I'll give ya a hug bro.
Awwww, schucks, thanks Rob!
Add a gobbie and its a deal...
@@jacquesbothma6936 hahahha Fuck off idiot
@@rob45x 🤣
When I'd see him I'd say HEEELLLLLLOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! :)
please keep doing these standoff videos, really enjoyable and helps make a decision
Thanks mate! A few more scheduled. I do enjoy them myself.
Just One More Watch I agree I also really enjoy watching them.
They're good content, they remind a bit of TGVs but yours cover more affordable brands and seem a little more subjective and realistic.
I’ve got a diver’s watch - I had to drown him to get it.
I have a field watch, had to dig it out.
I had a pocket watch. I lost it during a game of pool.
I recognize the shortfalls of the 7s (no hacking/hand winding) and the bracelet it comes with is (as you say) completely un-useable. But in my day-to-day life at the office, my SNKL23 gets more wrist time than pretty much any other watch I wear combined. I've owned it for years and I still find myself staring at it all the time. I don't need second accuracy in an office job, and a black horween leather strap really sets it off. The dial on the seiko is absolutely gorgeous with the applied indexes and brand logo as well as the texture on the outer edge is amazing. If I could ever do a custom job, I'd put a hacking movement like a 6r in an SNLK23 and call it a day. Such a wonderful piece!
Nice fun review. Regardless of the material specification I would take the Seiko every time - I do think, however, that Seiko really need to up their specs these days in light of the cheaper better specced competition around- they are not the value/quality proposition they used to be.
Amazing value in Cadisen.
I brushed my Cadision. The outerlinks with fine sandpaper. Went perfectly and it look so much better!!
I own a SNKL23, it's actually one of my favorite in my collection... So I admit I am not completely impartial here, but I found the Seiko way more interesting and beautiful comparing to the Cadisen. When you put them side by side, you realize that the c1032's dial is quite flat, almost... boring so to speak.
And that's completely personal but that roman "XII" is a big no-go for me...
Anyway thanks for your videos, best regards from France
To look good from a distance, that's the only idea that stays behind cheap watches from China. Not only watches, but everything in general.
I have both of these watches… Jody is spot on when he says the bracelet on the Seco ‘sucks !’...When you order it make sure you order a nice leather band to go along with it… Finish is outstanding...Nicer than watches that I have that cost three $3-400...The cadisen slit is so shiny but I personally believe it cheapens the look of the watch considerably… They are both on a black Italian leather quick release butterfly strap… They look amazing and I wish I could post a picture… I find myself choosing to wear the Cadisen Far more than the Seiko...I like the 40 mm size on my 7 1/2 inch wrist, And the sapphire crystal and low cost… Makes it the perfect dress beater watch!
You have to wonder why Seiko persist with the 7S26 when their own, better and cheaper 3rd party NH36 is readily available and cheaper for other watches.
Because the history and the brand, with chinese companies you buy a watch without history and respect in watch community but again, if you dont care for brand and history of it, of course get the chinese one with nh35.
Badr The Golden Boy, Hari so what you're saying is, they use the 7s26 because they can get away with it, people still buy the watches and they make more money
@@joserebelo2661 same, but its still better to get Japanese watches than swiss for the same price/quallity.
But the NH35/NH36 are basically Seiko's own 4r35/36, so history and brand has nothing to do with it. My point was that Seiko sell the better movement to 3rd party manufacturers for peanuts and persist with the very outdated 7s26 in their own watches (at an inflated price point).
@@longbush Dude i know nh35/36 its 4r36 im not addicted with watches from yesterday, and you are right so where is your debate with me??
That Seiko is $150 on Amazon now. Specs on the Cadisen are better for less than half of the Seiko. The Scottish in me willna bide tha Seiko.
@Marcquise White non brand loyal sheep?
@Marcquise White i would say the same for people who buy watches based on "heritage" alone
@Marcquise White the cadisen literally has a seiko movement inside. The hardware is exceptional. What are you complaining about? the letters on the dial? So you're the kind of person who'll pay $3000 for a laptop because it says APPLE ?
@Marcquise White lmao why would I even pay more for the name Nike? its just a name. A good shoe is a good shoe, a good watch is a good watch. I dont care it says reebok or new balance or nike. You focus too much on the name when you should judge the product BY ITSELF. It may say seiko on the dial but the bracelet is horrible. (like mosty seiko bracelets) A lot of microbrands use seiko or miyota movements, even "western" watch brands.
@Marcquise White just shut up dude, its people's choice for wearing a Cadisen, the fact that you're judge people's based on what they're wearing meaning you're an insecure watch snob. Shame
Very entertaining and informative. Love your modesty and sense of humor. It’s very refreshing to see someone who is super good at what he does yet does not take himself too seriously. Thank you!
I really think the lume bonus makes the difference for the Seiko. Having lume makes it a more versatile everyday watch, where as the Cadisen is more of a straight up dress piece.
That’s my take-away, anyway.
Cadisen C1032 all the way :)
*Edit* Bought mine in the AliExpress mid-year sale for £32 and after the 1st week it has been keeping an average of 2-3 seconds a day. A brilliant watch that is.
thats a crazy crazy crazy value!
How about Cadisen vs guanqin?
I think that'd be an interesting video 😁
i have the Cadisen now for a few months and people don't know the brand, but like the watch quality. Thanks to the DayDate function and the sapphire glass,people thought that i spent a few hundred euros for this watch. The Cadisen is amazing for its price.
The thing with the SNKL23 is; for the money it's an indecently pretty little watch and it does look far more expensive than it actually costs - which does have a value to it. It's annoying that it doesn't hand-wind (hacking doesn't bother me either way) but I'll put up with that for the price.
The specs of the Cadisen are better but it looks like a $100 watch. When I look at my SNKL23, see the detail in the dial, the hands and the finishing... I don't care about the specs.
I also don't mind the bracelet at all.
came back to this classic video, as currently I'm thinking about getting my handy on another Seiko 5 (silver this time) - reason I'm commenting: I owen now a total of six Seikos (SNKL23, New Turtle, Quarz and some of the 'recrafts'), some about 5 years. Not a single one of them got a scratch on the hardlex and I'm clumsy.
Though I'm still tempted to replace the SNKL-Crystals with Sapphire, as I love the look of domed-crystal on that one...
The 4 o'clock crown position on the seiko. Love it. Seiko should gets 1 more points for that..
I'm watching this with my Cadisen. I have both black and silver dial versions. The case size is actually rather 39mm than 40mm and it wears smaller than the Guanqin GJ16034 also featured here. I didn't care for the shiny bracelet so I changed it instantly to a leather strap which looks much better. Now I'm wearing them on Eulit perlons for the summer. I had the hour and minute hands changed for the silver dial version to a pilot style hands to enhance the legibility and to get some lume as the dauphine hands tend to "disappear" in some lighting conditions. Overall I really like the Cadisens (and the Guanqin too) although I would consider the Seiko 5 too if they would at least upgrade the movement.
Do you have any problem when you change the hands? Movement won't get out after pop up the crown.
@@rofieqnurrozaqrobarwarto4609 I don't know for sure because a watchmaker changed the hands. But I've read some comments that the dial of the Cadisen is indeed fixed so you can't remove it with the movement. Therefore I assume that the watchmaker has changed the hand by removing the bezel and the crystal. I couldn't ask this because when I picked up the watch there was only a salesperson in the shop. I guess that you could try to use a snap-back watch case opener with a lever to remove the bezel. But I wasn't that expensive to have a watchmaker to do it for me so I thought that it was worth it as I didn't have proper tools.
I learned a lot today on how to assess/compare watches. Excellent thought process!
So every Chinese special I own… And I do have a few! Have been based on your recommendations Jody. And I can’t say that you’ve ever lead me astray! I have a few more expensive watches...And I’m looking at others all the time as it is actually become a rather infectious hobby for me! You’re not just one of my go to guys wanna comes to looking at water abuse you are now and have been for awhile my #1 go to guy...My Chinese specials are actually some of my favourite watches mainly because I still can’t understand how they can Provide so much for so little… This Cadisen is no exception... For the money it’s unbeatable...I love my seiko’sand my citizen’s as well...My Zelos and spinnaker....?Awesome! I especially like the fact that you look at low cost Micro brands! I have 50% Scottish blood running through my veins so I I’m always looking to stretch the dollar and get a deal😂! Keep it up and thanks For throwing in ‘chuckles’ here and there...Looking forward to future reviews!
John
I would like to see the Seiko SNXS79 vs SNKL23. thanks jody!
I finally bought a silver dial Cadisen after watching your videos and wore it for the longest time. Then I finally went for the Ruimas you reviewed. That one replaced the Cadisen on my wrist. One note, not too long after the Ruimas purchase I received a call from my CC company to ask if I had purchased groceries at Walmart at 6 in the morning in Arkansas. Since I was asleep at that time in South Carolina I told them no. It was my first experience buying from the company you recommended and I fear the coincidence so quickly after leads me to decide never to make another buy from that particular site. It was the first time I've ever had a cc problem. Of course the company cancelled that card and issued another. I do like both watches and thank you for your reviews.
I purchased the Cadison, and have been wearing it for the last 3 weeks to work. It does wear ok, but I must say, I am not much of a fan of the clasp. It seems to self-open every now and then if I am articulating my wrist, and I have noticed it is sometimes hard to locate the ends to fasten each side. But a truly gorgeous watch. I would have to say though, as an every day wearer, my 20 year old quartz Lorus sports watch is by far better. I wouldn't bother with the Seiko 5 automatic, but might be willing to spend a couple hundred on a very good Seiko Quartz.
I've never been able to tell the difference between hardlex and mineral. I've had maybe a dozen seikos with hardlex over the years and they've all gotten scratched fairly quickly. Sapphire, on the other hand, is in a different league. It's not impervious to scratches but it's a million times better than hardlex.
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We all agree that an acrylic crystal, like on the Casio F-91W, is at the bottom rung. This stuff is so bad that it registers all but the slightest impacts on it.
Mineral and hardlex are less likely than sapphire to shatter, however, which may be a benefit considering that most people are going to treat a Seiko 5 a bit less gingerly than a $370,000 Grand Seiko Tourbillon watch.
I'll take the Seiko 5 any day of the week!
I have a two year old Seiko snk809 on leather NATO strap, I also have a few months old Parnis "sumbariner" with miyota movement. The thing is the Seiko certainly has better quality control and manufacturing tolerances where it matters I would say. Parnis has far worse crown, stem feel to it. Not as crisp as Seiko. And Parnis stopped few times during wearing, two or three times. Also my Parnis dial has tiny spec of dust under the black paint near 12 o´clock position. But it is very accurate +- 2 sec. a day, Seiko runs about -6 sec. a day. Nowadays I wear a Parnis, because of the steel bracelet which is better in the summer (sweat is leather strap killer). But for the money you get more in Parnis - saphire crystal, very nice steel bracelet, submariner style, accurate japan movement for 75 USD. I bought Seiko for 74 USD two years ago, now they have become quite expensive around 100 USD. But in the end, both watches are great in their own way.
My vote to the Cadisen, it just looks COOL- great with a suit!!
I just picked up a Seiko SRPD29 for $165 on clearance at Costco this weekend. I thought it was a pretty good deal. I figured someone in your audience might appreciate the heads-up. Another great video. I'll definitely be adding one of those Chinese specials at some point.
When do we get the DIY brushing video?
Never had the arm hair issue with my Seiko 5. The Cadisen is a good value but the Seiko 5 series of watches has a style and history that adds a little bit of depth and magic.
I have that Cadisen on an aftermarket leather strap. Great beater dress watch. And I went for the SNK795 over the SNKL23. I like the 795's case design a little more.
Cadisen for me is the winner. The clean look, better movement, sapphire and most important value for money. I recommend buying them and i think its one of the small chinese brand to watch out for.
I've been wearing a Cadisen 1032 in silver for about a year now....love it....just purchased the black face 1032 and a cadioak 42mm(11-11) still waiting on them can't wait
Bought the Cadisen about 9 months ago, didn't work, still waiting for the replacement!
Same here. Bought one of the high beat dress watches that Jody recommended. Was dead out of the box, and the hands jumped around when you “shuffled” it. I didn’t even bother trying to return it, just sits in the box, never to be opened again.
Didn't return mine either, just got my money back and ordered another one, I'm a sucker for punishment!@@matthewclina4162
I got a Cadisen after watching one of your other video's not the model in this video. It is a great watch and I have been asked about it , so the brand awareness may grow. thanks again
I own a snkl23. It is persistently beautiful at any source of light around and at any intensity particularly at morning 10am or evening 4am from the sun. It glows somehow differently from many angle. There are so many subtleties in a single watch. And it is the best one in keeping time among others in my collection, almost unbelievably +- 5s per day compared to my several SKX, and SNZ.
Thanks to you I am a proud owner of this Cadisen - and was in the market for this Seiko as well, but this was before the price raise. So let's play the new video, which is more than relevant to my tastes :D
Wow, I had this Cadisen on my wishlist since I saw your review video, but after seeing this comparison I'll definitively buy it ASAP! The specs this watch offer for only 50 bucks (still same price in 2021) is just ridiculous!
I bought the black Cadisen C1032M for $47 on 11/11. I have a small wrist and 40mm is my max. for a dress watch, but bear in mind that a black dial visually will look smaller on a wrist, and a white dial larger. Thanks for this video!
Tough comparison in this one, but very informative. I own 5 different Seiko watches, only one of which is a 5. However it is my go to watch in my whole collection of 20 watches. Very nice holographic face with a jubilee bracelet that I have worn for over 20 years without any hair pulling. I’ve never had it fall off, and it looks great on my wrist, but it is very small on my 8 1/2” wrists. I’m a big guy and I wear a smaller watch, but as my eyes have started to fail and suffer from cataracts, I’ve been on the lookout for larger watches. I find them bulky and I continually crash into objects with them. I don’t know what to do.
The seiko wins because of its classical size, plus the design is much better. The cadisen would be better for me if it was 36/18. I've always been a fan of the classically sized watches. 40mm is a bir big for a dress like watch.
You have absolutely the best content sir! Excellent analysis and I really appreciate your delivery style. Thanks!
Seiko all day for me... it will still be going in 30 years... I have a Seiko 5 from the 1980's, used and abused, never been serviced and still going strong. Keeps fantastic time.
I mean cadisen also has a seiko movement
Bought the Cadisen based on your reviews, and really have been enjoying it. I really don't mind all the bling, but really would have been ecstatic if it had some lume on it for night viewing. Great review, thanks Mike. PS . I live in the wrong Sydney....Nova Scotia ( New Scotland...lol.) so I guess I won’t be seeing you on our streets any time soon, but if I did I would certainly say Hello and have a wee chat. Cheers.
Thanks Michael! And it wouldn't be too hard to swap the hands on the Cadisen. I've thought about it, but I like the dauphines.
Well. That put things in perspective for me. I have the Cadisen on my wish list for quite sometime now. Now you made me put the Seiko in as well.
George Watanabe I bought the cadisen back on 1111 sale on Ally express for like $38 I would gladly pay 50 It is well worth the money
Just bought my first watch! Thanks for helping me navigate the hobby!
I think this was a great comparison. I agree with everything you said. I have 2 Seiko 5s that are similar that I feel I am always trying to love as much as possible but it is hard for obvious reasons.
I got a Casio Royale knock off (skmei) watch during prime day and the band is a real hair puller. My macgyver solution was to line the inside with duct tape. No more pulls.
If Cadisen (or one of our other Chinese favorites) will do everyday NH35/36 watch below 40mm with descent lumed hands/dial, I would buy it with no hesitations whatsoever. Also overpolish-ness ticks me off a little bit... Great video, Jody!
Jody, come to Belarus, I'll recognize you, I promise =))) Nice video, man!
Hahhah! Thanks mate!
Hey Jody,
It's thanks to you I was able to finally pick up a seiko snkl23. If I ever see you in the Sydney street I'll be sure to flag you down.
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
Despite Juliet's claim--for me the name Seiko 5 means something that outweighs all of its shortcoming. It has a story to tell about the making of the optimal affordable timepiece.
In my humble opinion "Day-Date" is a must have complication in any watch, which has a calendar function. We usually know which month and year it is, but we usually forget about dates and weekdays - is it wednesday today?? This is a frequently asked question to me by others, and I quite often do not know either if it is not very beginning or end of the working week, not even speaking about long holidays.
You're generous awarding quite so many points to the Seiko for brand reputation. I'm a bit of a Seiko fanboi, but I can't deny this Cadisen outshines the SNK in almost every other regard. If your title and opening premise are any guide, it's really no contest at all; the Cadisen is just such a great budget everyday watch. I will defend the Seiko in terms of overall aesthetics however, as I agree with your assessment of the Seiko's superior case finishing and especially its far more visually interesting dial/handset. It's also worth mentioning that the SNK not only gets a bonus for having any lume at all, but it's the well-regarded Lumibrite, which acquits Seiko well in any budget watch comparo.
The lack of hacking and hand winding in a watch drives me nuts and is a deal breaker for me. So I got a Seiko 5 JDM Model SARZ005 which uses the 4R36 movement for a few dollars more (about $150 USD at the time), and it has served me quite well for two years now. I really do like it for daily wear. The bracelet isn't great but it looks very nice on a leather strap.
Until recently I didn't realize that there were different levels of watch within the group of Seiko 5 watches but apparently there are.
The TAKE HOME today is...TAKE THEM BOTH HOME!!!
Both are amazing.
I put a jubilee bracelet on the cadisen, the watch and bracelet cost a total 100 AUD together and it really changes the watch. Feels a lot more premium and comfortable not to mention looks way better than with its original bracelet.
My Cadisen died 2 weeks out of box. Returned, and still looking for refund after 2 months. Stick with Seiko.
I had to say I had no problems with mine it was perhaps more accurate than seiko 5 sports with the same movement but something felt of like the date-will but then again it was 3 times cheaper
My Cadisen died two minutes out of the box because I hated it enough to execute it with my .45 pistol.
But inside Seiko movement was ticking.
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Wear my cadisen at the moment thanks to your review, i decided to order one 👍
Wearing my Seiko 5 while watching this, total lume beast with a 4R36.
I happen to own both of these pieces. Although, I only received the Cadisen a week ago.
I agree completely with this video, but can say with confidence that after the honeymoon phase with the Cadisen is over, I'll definitely be reaching for the Seiko more often than the Cadisen. After all, I do have the Seiko wave tattooed on my arm. ;)
Now that is dedication.
Hooo weee.. Just checking out the price of the Seiko. Thanks TH-cam. I guess it's the Cadisen, then.
My kids are TH-camrs and sometimes when we go out together they get recognized and I’m always tickled about it. They have 6 channels with two over 6 million subscribers. Don’t tell them but I watch your channel more than I watch theirs
Jody... I have my oldest Seiko 5 at 15 years old... My grandfather's Seiko 5 is alive and ticking at 40 years old..... I have never seen a Seiko 5 stop working.... Oldest I have seen is 60-70 year old Seiko 5s
I have the Seiko SNKL19 (essentially the SNKL23 except with a gray dial and gold tone hands and markers), and I agree that the bracelet is terrible. I swapped it out immediately for a leather strap. I also have the SNKK86, however, and find the bracelet on that one to be much more bearable. I think it is because each link is the full width of the bracelet, as opposed to the three-part or five-part links on most Seiko 5 models. The one-piece links have a much more solid feel to them (even though they are still folded links), and the bracelet doesn't pinch nearly as much. So far I have left it on the bracelet and have worn it without any real discomfort. The SNKK86 is gold colored, but it also comes in SS with a black, white, or brown dial (SNKK81, SNKK77, and SNKK79) or in two-tone (SNKK83).
Just got mine snkl23 last week.. I believe seiko had bring back this model for production. Super loving it, what a surprise is the accuracy only lost - 2sec or - 3sec perday. Maybe im just lucky
You should really add a category for quality. I've drunk bought a couple of these cheap Chinese automatics and they all break within a couple of months of using them. God knows if they're even using real 316L steel.
The Seiko will most likely still be ticking in 10, 15 years barring it being smashed on the ground and broken. Can't make any guarantees with the Cadisen...
The cadisen uses seiko movement so probably will still working after years the biggest difference would be quality control, with this Chinese watches you can get the best watch for his price or you can get a shit that comes with poor construction quality
I just found/bought a new Seiko SNKL23J1 for $100 shipped. The Cadisen is now $110. Also, Cadisen is advertised with “Hardlex” crystal
Hardlex isn’t a real problem for an office watch...😉
... but just imagine Seiko would use the NH36 and instead of the bracelet a fine leather strap, which would add maybe 20-30$ what a watch this could be...
They would have longer waiting list as Rolex 😂
Great comparison vid. At this point Seiko really should be using the NH36 throughout the 5 series. I have an older 5 series (10+ years now), and I will say that the major advantage Seiko has over its competitors is the detail of the dials. I get so many compliments on my Seiko 5. The bracelets are typically garbage, but it’s common to see them with aftermarket straps. I put a really nice black strap on my SNXS73, and it looks much better.
Well, I have come to a decision...
I'm buying both
my snkl23 gets a lot of compliment. definately a plus!
Fantastic comparison video. I got excited when I saw the chart and categories - love charts. LOL. Yes, I am a bit weird. Thanks, Jody!
Love that gmt wall clock, where can i get one?
i3oringdayz - I want one too!
I've complained about the sheer quantity of sponsored videos on your channel before Jody so it's only fair to let you know why I like this kind of content so much more: I understand that you have to eat but most of the sponsor watches are just uninteresting to me (might be different for others), it's much more fun when you talk about watches that people actually consider and weigh against each other and also ones you can be completely honest about. The Seiko takes it for me, cheers 👍
I've had both a Cadison and a Seko. They both failed me (needed repairs). However, I was angrier at the Seko because it cost over 3 times the price of the Cadison. Both watches looked nice, but the Cadison was very imprecise when being set. I agree with Jody about hair pull on metal bands. I had a cheap Casio that was the worst. I eventually gave it away to a friend because I was tired of getting my arm hair pulled off!
Best welcome on TH-cam!
Thanks Tony!
Seiko's are known to last for generations. Aside from proprietary hardlex crystal, everything is well built for the price. But I wonder if the cadisen is the same. Any idea on the durability of the cadisen watch? What type of metal are they using?
I have the same Cadisen with the silver face. Best under $100 purchase I’ve ever made.
I have to disagree with you on a lot of the knocks against the Seiko. I use the same SNKL23 for a daily wear in the office and a machine shop and have not had a problem with the Hardlex. The bracelet, while cheaply made is fine. I don't know what you are doing to lose all your arm hair to it but I wear the watch snugly and have not had a problem with that at all. It is also very easy to adjust the number of links which I do twice a year spring and fall due to temp changes here in Canada. One thing that seems to get overlooked a lot is the recessed crown on the SNKL23, it makes the Seiko wear very comfortably as you don't have the crown digging in to the back of your hand all the time. I would like a hacking and hand winding movement but since it is a daily wear it almost never runs down on me so hand wind is not really an issue. As for the Cadisen, I have only heard a few things about them and almost all have been about poor quality and poor customer service, so I won't waste my time, money or energy on the brand.
Each to their own mate! Cheers.
I have the snkl23 and very thin wrists but it does still feel small at times. That dial though 😍
Kia Ora neighbour!
Great comparison again Jody. Personally don't like the stripes on the SNKL23, I have the SNKL45 with a nice sunburst dial.
I guess the result would swing more in favour of the Seiko if you compared the 23 with a Guanqin GJ16034 which now only comes with the Miyota movement.
My Seiko 5 (809) sitting on my navy/white nato is my daily. Only loses 1 sec/day!! Only gripe is it looks a little small on my 21cm wrist. But I love it🥰
I picked up the Cadisen after seeing it in one of your earlier vids. Not a bad little watch at all. I own several Seiko 5s. This one's a bit small fr my gorilla wrists. I agree with the bracelet being rubbish. Honestly, it's a throw away. I'd expect better from Seiko even on their budget pieces. Although the 5 has a very nice dial, the Cadisen takes it in my opinion as well. Another brilliant T Shirt BTW 😁👍
Thanks for this great video of affordable watches Jody! I've the Cadisen C1033G, basically the same watch as the C1032 but with a different dail and brushed bracelet. All that for €43 (less then $ 50!) at an AliExpress sale.
And the accuracy. WOW! Yes, I know, when you want an accurate watch, buy a quartz. As you stated in your review of the Cadisen C1032 last year: it is ACCURATE! Mine does + 0,3s/ day (during 18 days so far).
That’s good, mine is +8 seconds per day fast.
@@Rick-ve5lx That's not good.. I take the watch off at night and lay it "crown up". That (for my Cadisen) is the best way to keep accuracy. "Horizontal" it gained + 12s/day...
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Good advice thanks but I’ve tried it. Mine is 13s flat or 8s crown up. Not as good as yours but far better than my SKX and a little better than my Alpinist, both of which I sold. I’m happy enough as the 1032 is within spec. Cheers!
Great video, mate. Most fun and informative one yet. Keep’em coming!
Great video I own a seiko 5 myself however I’m pretty sure that it’s a 19mm lug to lug on the seiko well that’s what mine is anyway
Why is hodinkee the standard?
Please do more of these videos!! Awesome!!
A few more scheduled..... Cheers!
Now what *I'm* after is a Flieger style watch very similar to my Seiki SNK809 but *bigger*. Can't justify the Hamilton Pilot Day Date at the moment, so cheaper than $300 AUD is where it needs to be.
Well now this is interesting:
www.chrono24.com.au/all/qzsg-pilot-watch-flieger-germen-style-type-ab-ww2-hot-nh35a--id11508431.htm
My surprise 9-5 watch was the Casio Sapphire LTP (white dial). Nice and cheap with Sapphire glass, lightweight and gets noticed every now and again.
At this low of a price point you should be getting a quartz movement to be honest. You could keep the decent finishing and dial on the Seiko and actually have it tell accurate time. Found it amusing how both of those watches had display case backs too.
Hardlex is a deal breaker for me. I have one Seiko 5 that scratched and I doubt I'll buy another Seiko because of the Hardlex. When you can buy a $20.00 watch with sapphire crystal (which I've done several times) what is Seiko thinking?
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From where you bought sapphire watches under 20$?
Wow you you really punished the Cadisen for being polished as if no person in there right mind would want polished over brushed. Many people prefer polished. After a sapphire upgrade, polishing the case is the most popular Seiko mod! That category really skewed the results. The only reason I haven’t bought the Cadisen is because of the brand (which I think will change soon). If was branded Seiko, I would have it in my wrist now! It’s one sharp looking watch. The only categories I think it loses in is brand and lume. Keep up the great videos! My favorite watch channel!
Seiko hands down! Just look at the dial and hands on a high def screen and you'll see the details. That would bring the Cadisen at leats 4 points down to a 3 and a tie of 61 Ha! Seiko wins in the bonus box and everybody goes home happy. Just my two cents. Awesome video BTW.
I got myself a SNXS79K with an extra bracelet for school, love the baton hands
I can kinda of understand why ppl want hacking for a very accurate movement/ which 7S isn’t.
But if shuffling watches were more expensive then hand winding, ppl would think they were better. Surely is easier to just shake the watch?
It's a pain coz, you cannot shake to wacth for it to last the whole day unless you wear it as a daily driver, I always prefer hand windable watches coz you can give it a full wind forget about it for 2 days
Abdullah Pro i kinda get what you’re saying.
But instead of taking time to wind the watch you’re just taking time to reset the time when you pick it up. I don’t get the issue.
@@Awkwardfruitfly do you have any unhandwindable watch?
Actually I would pay extra money for hand winding because when ever I shuffle my seiko 5 people give me weird looks and my friends make fun of this
@@artyom-ei2mf I can relate 😂